I see you have both of them, would you say new v2 pro clicks are quieter or much the same like an old naga pro? Or lauder maybe? I have to buy new one and can't really justify the price for v2 pro over old pro. Is it worth it, in your opinion? If you don't particularly care about new wheel feature.
Advice for your channel (which was better than most, so thank you for that) But some fine tuning your presentation. Essentially, the majority of people lack attention span and also lack delayed gratification, they want to get to the point and get on, so.. with that being said, right off that bat, I'd address the major inquiries that people seek first. THEN, begin to address the reasons for each one in segments in further depth. Major inquiries you sat? Simply ask what the consumer would be considering going from (or straight to) one product to the other? Why would I want to upgrade, and is it worth it. Performance, features, then functionality. The FPF Rule. I hope you like this advice. I still thought yours was the best on YT for this product!
While it's valid critisism, unfortunately I have no interest in doing proper videos by myself anymore. I mostly just wanted to get some of these talking points out for people who are actually interested in the mouse, and can't tell any difference from the previous one because other videos just gloss over features like the scroll wheel, which is honestly one of the most important features about this mouse that even Razer is glossing over a bit for some reason
Is the click any different? I noticed that the Trinity was a quieter click than the Naga Pro which is disappointing, I wanted the Naga Pro to also be quiet. Is V2 quieter?
as a G604 owner, i miss the infinite scroll and the 2 small buttons on left click when i switch to naga pro. now they add this scroll but decided to only put the 2 small left click buttons on naga V2 -_-.. you just cant have it all 🤦♂ if only my G604 didnt malfunction.
@@eladbari the hyperspeed uses batteries so it doesn’t have the wireless charging, doesn’t have optical clicks they have mechanical clicks instead. The hyperspeed also have 2 extra buttons on mouse button 1 and is also in fact lighter which is why it’s my preferred choice from the naga line up.
@@Ohsoocruddy Are mechanical clicks considered better quality than optical clicks? +Those 2 extra buttons on top left- are not easy to reach. Not so comfortable. They took that extra button below the scroll wheel, and while also not that comfortable- you could reach it better than those two far left.
Have you been using this mouse a lot? One issue I've ran into a lot with Naga's is the double click. I've had that problem for every Naga mouse I've purchased. Have you had any problems with that?
I use my PC a lot, so yeah I do use the mouse a lot, even for 3D modeling. I have not had doubleclicking issues on any Razer mouse I did not slam out of gamer rage, but the Naga Pro, and the Naga V2 Pro that I have both do not show any sign of double clicking... yet. Not sure what will cause it. Even Synapse could be a culprit
Personally I think this method is far better. When I need to scroll fast I just do it, and don't need a button, but that's also how I've configured the profile. Rough/slow to start so I activate it on accident faaaar less, and then as soon as I need to scroll fast it loosens up, and I can scroll very fast. I didn't know this is what I desired until I had it
Did any of you guys get non registering button presses with the naga? I have had two of the original versions now and it would randomly not register buttons I pressed so I stopped using it. Not sure if this one does it too
Those shapes are generally exactly the same I tried some grip tape, and it was much better, but you can't really get pre-cut grip tape for Nagas, sooooo........... I might 3D model something for 3D printing to help solve some of the issues for larger hands, but idk when I could
The other side is a Type A cable, presumably because the Type C isn't that comomn just yet. One of these companies needs to stop being a pussy, and release a mobo with like 2x Type A ports, and the rest to be Type C
How do you compare the scroll wheel feel when freewheeling? Does it give it some kind of inertia-like feedback, let say, like a MX master 3 or does it feel like the G502 x, personally, I like the Mx master's the best or even the G604's compared to the G502 x plus, which feels cheap and crappy. Thank you!
I've never had any of those Logitech mice, but I'm not sure this will compare to that proprly since this is the first generation of this kind of scroll wheel. It's all magnetically controlled, and even on the Smooth Scroll setting it seems to be controlling how the scroll wheels movements
Still performs well. Only issue I've come across is that the mouse profiles don't seem to be working correctly without Synapse, and I HAVE to run Synapse just for the mouse to remember what profile it's supposed to be using. It's really annoying due to how I use it with Windows, and I'm considering an RMA. Everything else is perfectly fine. Just Synapse being at fault as usual
@@kingsidorak Wait, you mean that the macros / profiles (must say it's still quite confusing for me- this whole system, as profiles are saved onboard, while macros are not), So, you're saying that they don't work without Synapse open? Well? I think they don't work when you are not connected to the internet. And that's a HUGE HUGE Problem. Maybe I'm traveling, and I'm without an available Wifi. So, what's the problem installing a 16MB RAM (even less) on the mouse to save all the profiles? I think there are other MMO mice with 12 side buttons which do have onboard memory for all of your macros. Yet, I don't know how these other mice perform in other departments. You always find a review of like an Aerox 9 which feels like it might be an alternative, and then you find out some cons that might be a deal breaker. Seriously don't know if there's a good alternative to those NAGA's....
@@eladbari I'm not sure exactly. I think it counts as keybinds with the way I have it setup. I use CTRL + Tab, and CTRL + Shift + Tab, to cycle through browser tabs, and also Alt + Tab / CTRL + Alt + Tab to switch through active windows. They are added through the keyboard input, and not Macros. If I don't have Synapse open it will act as if CTRL, Alt, or Shift are held down. Once I open synapse, it immediately stops. This just started within the last month. I don't like Synapse taking up boot time
@@kingsidorak Oh right! You reminded me now that there's some kind of sign to know [inside synapse] if your keypress/macro will work with Synapse open or without. Maybe only, like you say, certain key presses, or only the pre-made shortcuts will work. Anyways, after realizing the Aerox 9 has many ergonomic faults, I wonder if the Corsair Scimitar might be a good replacement to the NAGA PRO in means of hardware and software features. As I have a hunch even my next NAGA will fair after a few months of normal(!) use.
@@eladbari Gotta try em out for yourself. The Aerox would have my money if it had that one extra button on top where the dpi button is. Scrimitar's side panel was annoying for me
The overall best gaming mouse and has been for quite a few years it the Roccat Leadr wireless and the Roccat Tyon wired. Perfect button placement in every way. They are both the exact same design. The only difference is that one is wired and the other is wireless. Others have started copying some of the button placements of the Leadr and Tyon.
This was sort of the video I was looking for until half the video is about the scroll wheel. A scroll wheel is a scroll wheel. If that's all the major difference save 9 minutes.
This is not your typical scroll wheel. The scroll wheel has magnets embedded in it that allow for customization of how the scroll wheel works. I have a custom set up that is very tactile so I can't accidentally hit the scroll wheel very easily, but as soon as I start scrolling quickly I can scroll very fast
the buttons on the naga su.cks i dont get it why they use them over and over damn i hope roccat will release a reworked nyth mouse. i like your small keyboard what is it?
If you mean the side buttons on the mouse then I'm not sure what you're smoking. As somebody who has used multiple Nagas, a Logitech G600 and a Corsair Scimitar over the years, the Naga just seems to have the better quality side buttons of all the 'MMO-style' mice. Granted, I haven't owned the Steel Series one yet, so I can't comment on that.
@@arstulex No, no. This is a legitimate issue people suffer from whether it's a hardware issue, or Razer Synapse fucking shit up as it does from time to time. Not just Razer, but yeah
@@kingsidorak My NAGA PRO V1 Wireless middle mouse failed after 6 months as a single middle click randomly actuates as x2 or x3 times - so when opening a new link on chrome- it opens it twice. I went through two copies of the V1 and same thing happened again after 6 months, so I was wondering if the V2 has a more sustainable middle click. Is the build quality of the V2 better than the V1? Not sure which model is more prone to problems...
@@arstulex What I love about the NAGA is: 1. The RAZER software which switches macros automatically on the fly when I move from App to App (Photoshop to After Effects etc) 2. I love the Hypershift button, doubling up the macro commands. 3. Also, the pinky rest of the NAGA helps a lot with comfort for your hand. I'm not sure if other mice options might have the same features....so I never tried switching... Whaddya think regarding the Logitech / Corsair / Steelseries in comparison?
Exactly what I’m looking for. TY!!
Is the cable just for charging or to replace wireless\bluetooth too?
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I see you have both of them, would you say new v2 pro clicks are quieter or much the same like an old naga pro? Or lauder maybe? I have to buy new one and can't really justify the price for v2 pro over old pro. Is it worth it, in your opinion? If you don't particularly care about new wheel feature.
Advice for your channel (which was better than most, so thank you for that)
But some fine tuning your presentation.
Essentially, the majority of people lack attention span and also lack delayed gratification, they want to get to the point and get on, so.. with that being said, right off that bat, I'd address the major inquiries that people seek first. THEN, begin to address the reasons for each one in segments in further depth.
Major inquiries you sat?
Simply ask what the consumer would be considering going from (or straight to) one product to the other?
Why would I want to upgrade, and is it worth it.
Performance, features, then functionality.
The FPF Rule.
I hope you like this advice. I still thought yours was the best on YT for this product!
While it's valid critisism, unfortunately I have no interest in doing proper videos by myself anymore. I mostly just wanted to get some of these talking points out for people who are actually interested in the mouse, and can't tell any difference from the previous one because other videos just gloss over features like the scroll wheel, which is honestly one of the most important features about this mouse that even Razer is glossing over a bit for some reason
Is the click any different? I noticed that the Trinity was a quieter click than the Naga Pro which is disappointing, I wanted the Naga Pro to also be quiet. Is V2 quieter?
I don't think it is quieter. I don't really pay attention to that, as my keyboard is also pretty clicky
Does it have free scrolling? Where it just keeps rolling unless stopped?
It doesn't just keep going, but you can customize it to get up to 96 steps, and set the scrolling tention way down
@@kingsidorak when you put the tension way down, does it keep spinning when you roll it hard? Or does it stop as soon as you take your finger off?
@@scherzoherzo2609 It loses momentum quickly, but that could improve in future versions of the mouse
as a G604 owner, i miss the infinite scroll and the 2 small buttons on left click when i switch to naga pro.
now they add this scroll but decided to only put the 2 small left click buttons on naga V2 -_-.. you just cant have it all 🤦♂
if only my G604 didnt malfunction.
they probably didn't add it because they have those buttons on another mouse
You should have a look at the naga v2 hyperspeed that released the same time as this mouse. It seems to have what you’re looking for
@@Ohsoocruddy What's the deal with the Hyperspeed version compared to the NAGA PRO V1 or V2? Wonder why the Hyperspeed is on the cheaper side
@@eladbari the hyperspeed uses batteries so it doesn’t have the wireless charging, doesn’t have optical clicks they have mechanical clicks instead. The hyperspeed also have 2 extra buttons on mouse button 1 and is also in fact lighter which is why it’s my preferred choice from the naga line up.
@@Ohsoocruddy Are mechanical clicks considered better quality than optical clicks?
+Those 2 extra buttons on top left- are not easy to reach. Not so comfortable. They took that extra button below the scroll wheel, and while also not that comfortable- you could reach it better than those two far left.
Have you been using this mouse a lot? One issue I've ran into a lot with Naga's is the double click. I've had that problem for every Naga mouse I've purchased. Have you had any problems with that?
I use my PC a lot, so yeah I do use the mouse a lot, even for 3D modeling. I have not had doubleclicking issues on any Razer mouse I did not slam out of gamer rage, but the Naga Pro, and the Naga V2 Pro that I have both do not show any sign of double clicking... yet. Not sure what will cause it. Even Synapse could be a culprit
last 2 nagas had that issue as well as the 1 button going bad. Went through 2 in 2 years
i wish they made this mouse with logitech style scroll, with a physical / mechanical button that control the scroll change, instead of software change
Personally I think this method is far better. When I need to scroll fast I just do it, and don't need a button, but that's also how I've configured the profile. Rough/slow to start so I activate it on accident faaaar less, and then as soon as I need to scroll fast it loosens up, and I can scroll very fast. I didn't know this is what I desired until I had it
just click the scroll wheel and pull down
scroll wheel and back isnt light up on the v2 pro?
don't remember. i immediately turn those off
Did any of you guys get non registering button presses with the naga? I have had two of the original versions now and it would randomly not register buttons I pressed so I stopped using it. Not sure if this one does it too
I've never had that issue with any of my Nagas, so I'm not sure what to tell you
Is it worth an extra 60 for usb c and better scroll wheel hmmmm
Is the shape any different? Am hoping the new has a slightly larger curve/size.
Those shapes are generally exactly the same
I tried some grip tape, and it was much better, but you can't really get pre-cut grip tape for Nagas, sooooo........... I might 3D model something for 3D printing to help solve some of the issues for larger hands, but idk when I could
@@kingsidorak I'm a small guy so I'm sure my hands aren't big. The Naga Pro is too small to comfortably hold.
@@kharkaroto9486 Don't have to be tall to have big hands, lol. I'm slightly claw gripping it which is enough to cause some pain
@@kingsidorak I have the same issue. Back of the mouse needs to be a bit larger.
is it possible to use it with mac with all that sw shit?
Wouldn't know. I've never used a Mac.
@@kingsidorak apparently they only support Windows 10 and 11
forget mac please
Is the charging cable usb type C to type C or is it usb A to type C?
The other side is a Type A cable, presumably because the Type C isn't that comomn just yet. One of these companies needs to stop being a pussy, and release a mobo with like 2x Type A ports, and the rest to be Type C
@@kingsidorak Thanks for responding! Couldn’t find that info anywhere
@@kingsidorak are we forced to use Razer's own charging cable dubbed "SpeedFlex" cable, or can we use any generic Type Cable?
@@hauts1 You can use any cable, or buy the charging puck, and use any wireless charger
How do you compare the scroll wheel feel when freewheeling? Does it give it some kind of inertia-like feedback, let say, like a MX master 3 or does it feel like the G502 x, personally, I like the Mx master's the best or even the G604's compared to the G502 x plus, which feels cheap and crappy. Thank you!
I've never had any of those Logitech mice, but I'm not sure this will compare to that proprly since this is the first generation of this kind of scroll wheel. It's all magnetically controlled, and even on the Smooth Scroll setting it seems to be controlling how the scroll wheels movements
i just got the v2 its much heavier then the old one idk if thats a dealbreaker for me have to think abt it
I can't find this mouse anywhere. Even sold out on Razer. :(
they might be witholding some to keep the demand up, like Nvidia, and AMD have recently
if you have a microcenter near by they might have stock
@@kingsidorak MC was the first place I checked. Guess I'll have to wait. :)
why does the video look like he filmed it with an RCA camcorder from 1989 ?
had to borrow it off your mother's bedroom filming location
@@kingsidorak 😅🤣🤣
Please report back if your NAGA PRO V2 still performs well, no problems?
Still performs well. Only issue I've come across is that the mouse profiles don't seem to be working correctly without Synapse, and I HAVE to run Synapse just for the mouse to remember what profile it's supposed to be using. It's really annoying due to how I use it with Windows, and I'm considering an RMA. Everything else is perfectly fine. Just Synapse being at fault as usual
@@kingsidorak Wait, you mean that the macros / profiles (must say it's still quite confusing for me- this whole system, as profiles are saved onboard, while macros are not),
So, you're saying that they don't work without Synapse open?
Well? I think they don't work when you are not connected to the internet. And that's a HUGE HUGE Problem. Maybe I'm traveling, and I'm without an available Wifi. So, what's the problem installing a 16MB RAM (even less) on the mouse to save all the profiles?
I think there are other MMO mice with 12 side buttons which do have onboard memory for all of your macros. Yet, I don't know how these other mice perform in other departments. You always find a review of like an Aerox 9 which feels like it might be an alternative, and then you find out some cons that might be a deal breaker. Seriously don't know if there's a good alternative to those NAGA's....
@@eladbari I'm not sure exactly. I think it counts as keybinds with the way I have it setup. I use CTRL + Tab, and CTRL + Shift + Tab, to cycle through browser tabs, and also Alt + Tab / CTRL + Alt + Tab to switch through active windows. They are added through the keyboard input, and not Macros.
If I don't have Synapse open it will act as if CTRL, Alt, or Shift are held down. Once I open synapse, it immediately stops. This just started within the last month. I don't like Synapse taking up boot time
@@kingsidorak Oh right! You reminded me now that there's some kind of sign to know [inside synapse] if your keypress/macro will work with Synapse open or without.
Maybe only, like you say, certain key presses, or only the pre-made shortcuts will work.
Anyways, after realizing the Aerox 9 has many ergonomic faults, I wonder if the Corsair Scimitar might be a good replacement to the NAGA PRO in means of hardware and software features. As I have a hunch even my next NAGA will fair after a few months of normal(!) use.
@@eladbari Gotta try em out for yourself. The Aerox would have my money if it had that one extra button on top where the dpi button is.
Scrimitar's side panel was annoying for me
My Naga pros scroll wheel just shit the bed, razer mice always break within like 2-3 years for me.
The overall best gaming mouse and has been for quite a few years it the Roccat Leadr wireless and the Roccat Tyon wired. Perfect button placement in every way. They are both the exact same design. The only difference is that one is wired and the other is wireless. Others have started copying some of the button placements of the Leadr and Tyon.
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This was sort of the video I was looking for until half the video is about the scroll wheel. A scroll wheel is a scroll wheel. If that's all the major difference save 9 minutes.
This is not your typical scroll wheel. The scroll wheel has magnets embedded in it that allow for customization of how the scroll wheel works. I have a custom set up that is very tactile so I can't accidentally hit the scroll wheel very easily, but as soon as I start scrolling quickly I can scroll very fast
As a radiologist looking for a mouse, the scroll wheel is the main feature for me, so I did appreciate the video.
I just upgraded from the v1 to v2 and i can confirm this scroll wheel is very good lmao no kap
It feels like your sliding through butter 🤣
@@kingsidorakit is most definitely not your typical scroll atleast compared to the other
recorded with an actual toaster smh
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the buttons on the naga su.cks i dont get it why they use them over and over damn i hope roccat will release a reworked nyth mouse. i like your small keyboard what is it?
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If you mean the side buttons on the mouse then I'm not sure what you're smoking.
As somebody who has used multiple Nagas, a Logitech G600 and a Corsair Scimitar over the years, the Naga just seems to have the better quality side buttons of all the 'MMO-style' mice.
Granted, I haven't owned the Steel Series one yet, so I can't comment on that.
@@arstulex No, no. This is a legitimate issue people suffer from whether it's a hardware issue, or Razer Synapse fucking shit up as it does from time to time. Not just Razer, but yeah
@@kingsidorak My NAGA PRO V1 Wireless middle mouse failed after 6 months as a single middle click randomly actuates as x2 or x3 times - so when opening a new link on chrome- it opens it twice. I went through two copies of the V1 and same thing happened again after 6 months, so I was wondering if the V2 has a more sustainable middle click. Is the build quality of the V2 better than the V1? Not sure which model is more prone to problems...
@@arstulex What I love about the NAGA is:
1. The RAZER software which switches macros automatically on the fly when I move from App to App (Photoshop to After Effects etc)
2. I love the Hypershift button, doubling up the macro commands.
3. Also, the pinky rest of the NAGA helps a lot with comfort for your hand.
I'm not sure if other mice options might have the same features....so I never tried switching... Whaddya think regarding the Logitech / Corsair / Steelseries in comparison?
i am pretty pissed about losing the scroll wheel rgb.....fuck lol
lmao
2-3 day battery life is iffy