Interesting because I always thought of doing 4 point saddles just like this because it made it much more simplified but whenever I would try to do it like this something in my brain would just not work. But now that I actually see it done in this same method in my head I think I can actually get done now. This is what I needed! Thank you for the video.
Just saw this video, this definitely is was the most simple video i’ve watched. Just started in commercial about 3 weeks ago an now i can officially bend 4 point saddles!
I truly enjoyed and appreciate the simplicity of your technique, will definitely start bending all my 4PS like this thanks, much love from the local 676 FL.
Excellent technique. Only suggestion I have is to shoot video a little wider so we can see the entire pipe when you're bending it. That would make the video so much better. Thanks for posting. Your easy explanation makes it easy for an engineer to understand. Keep safe out there.
Very cool, thank you so much for your simple explanations! For what its worth, I'm a parts clerk learning to help out our electrician who is busier than I am. His instructions tend to be either too in depth for me or a bit vague. Your Mamma Bear version hits the sweet spot : )
That's awesome glad this helped. Should be letting more electrical videos out in the very near future I'm working on some. Thanks for watching and commenting ☺
Well honestly if you are proficient in pipe Bending and you are not under the gun to get as much pipe as you can up the shrinkage is great. This way is faster until you get the hang of it for sure.
How would you do a 3 point saddle strut when the obstruction is real close to the edge of the pipe & their isn't enough pipe to get leverage from to bend
Honestly, if you had to do that it's a good idea to cut the other pipe off first then add your 3 point. It is hard to get it right at the end but it can be done.
It would come into play when you are running a conduit run. You could add to both sides but once you get the hang of running conduit, you want the least amount of couplings as possible. I'm gonna be working on a video that shows shrinkage this upcoming winter once I get back to recording more electrical videos
Pipe shrinkage you have to account for that. I literally just did a video on pipe shrinkage yesterday.. Once I get it edited I'll post it. You have to add for it
thats because you would want your center of bend to be on your pencil mark and that means you would use the notch on the ideal bendernot the arrow, give it a try and you will see
It's 8 1/2 height. The multiplier for a 30 degree bend is 2 I'm coming out with a video explaining the cosecant chart (multiplier) in 2 weeks so watch for that.
@@MountaineerOutdoors No problem. I wasn't sure at first if it was an accent or not but anyways good videos. I try not to be rude when making comments. Only constructive or informative reasons, not to put anyone down. Peace.
Yep I definitely was calling it wrong. I too do like you do try to help people and not be mean, some people definitely cannot take criticism which is totally insane especially when they are wrong,like I was. Anyway thanks again and stay safe from the cronoviris.
@@MountaineerOutdoors Thanks, stay safe too. Unfortunately sometimes we can't avoid the trolls and jerks on here. They like to be rude on purpose, and then there are people who think they are never wrong. Lol
It's sad that any union electrician apprentice is able to say no one showed them. I won't go into my diatribe about my feelings on the matter and I'm sure plenty will defend it and have smart remarks to make concerning my comment but if you don't know you'll find out how much I care seeing as your excuses to justify such behavior is extremely pitiful and pathetic. No wonder there is no unity.
if you are running conduit and coming to an obstruction, this is NOT how you would get your measurements to go over... you need to factor in shrinkage so that when you go over the obstruction then the other end of your conduit will be where you need it..... in this method your starting from the obstruction, meaning at least one end will either need to be cut off (wasting pipe), or you will actually have to fill in a gap because it wasnt long enough to reach back to your already ran conduit, which is where you shouldve been starting from, not the middle of the obstruction
You see I think that this video definitely shows exactly what you said. I am pretty sure that I said that you will have to figure shrinkage. I also said that I will be doing a video showing a video on how to figure out shrinkage.
Interesting because I always thought of doing 4 point saddles just like this because it made it much more simplified but whenever I would try to do it like this something in my brain would just not work. But now that I actually see it done in this same method in my head I think I can actually get done now. This is what I needed! Thank you for the video.
My pleasure thanks for watching and commenting ☺
I like what u said. Same thing happened to me. That nobody showed it me. I figured it out myself. Nobody teaches us these days. Keep up the good work.
Definitely.. I appreciate you watching and commenting ☺
Just saw this video, this definitely is was the most simple video i’ve watched. Just started in commercial about 3 weeks ago an now i can officially bend 4 point saddles!
Awesome how's it going?
I truly enjoyed and appreciate the simplicity of your technique, will definitely start bending all my 4PS like this thanks, much love from the local 676 FL.
Awesome glad to hear that this helped. I was truly blessed with w great journeyman who taught me very well.
Excellent technique. Only suggestion I have is to shoot video a little wider so we can see the entire pipe when you're bending it. That would make the video so much better. Thanks for posting. Your easy explanation makes it easy for an engineer to understand. Keep safe out there.
Great idea I will definitely keep that in mind next video that I do. Have a great day ☺
Glad I came across this video, gotta finish my conduit run tomorrow but gotta bend a 4 point! Thanks for the video
Well did you get it right??
Very cool, thank you so much for your simple explanations! For what its worth, I'm a parts clerk learning to help out our electrician who is busier than I am. His instructions tend to be either too in depth for me or a bit vague. Your Mamma Bear version hits the sweet spot : )
That's awesome glad this helped. Should be letting more electrical videos out in the very near future I'm working on some. Thanks for watching and commenting ☺
I really want to thank you for your videos.
My pleasure thanks for watching ☺
Thank you , great guide !!
Love this video , always come back to it
I am very appreciative!!
this video was good.straight to the point .
Best video I’ve seen
I appreciate that ☺
So would you typically account for shrinkage when making this bend?
Yes if you are connecting to a run with conduit. Otherwise you will definitely come up way short.
Hey just starting watching videos! They're great for a beginner!
Glad you like them! Thank you for watching😃
Does this apply to 3/4 as well ?
Yes if you are not worried about shrinkage. Which I will be letting one about shrinkage live soon so make sure to subscribe.
@@MountaineerOutdoors thanks for the reply !!!! in your experience when would you apply shrinkage vs this method ^ ?
Well honestly if you are proficient in pipe Bending and you are not under the gun to get as much pipe as you can up the shrinkage is great. This way is faster until you get the hang of it for sure.
And honestly alot of the time I use the way I showed in my video. Especially when it's just one bend
How would you do a 3 point saddle strut when the obstruction is real close to the edge of the pipe & their isn't enough pipe to get leverage from to bend
Honestly, if you had to do that it's a good idea to cut the other pipe off first then add your 3 point. It is hard to get it right at the end but it can be done.
Use a leverage bar you'd push inside the conduit to make that last bend 🤲
Good answer
I suck at 3 and 4 point saddle bends. I use Kline. I still don't get what knotches to use for what bend
The notches are the center of your bend
Is it the same for 3/4 and 1” emt?
Absolutely
Thanks for this 👊
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How do you come up with 8.5 inch times 2 ???
Height is 8.5 Bending on a 30 degree.. You have to times it by 2
Id like to see you try that with the 1” EMT.
Give me a real challenge 😂 😂
I always bend from 4 pt saddle like an assembly line.. not the middle bends then outer bends.. its one end, middle, middle , other end
Hey if that works for you then so be it. I have done it like that before for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting ☺
Great method for a 4 point saddle very simplified for the dummies like me lol
Awesome glad to hear that this helped
Really helpful thanks 🙏🏼
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Videos are great 👍🏽 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Thank you I really appreciate it
Ok kaayo pari..
What i want to know is how about shrinkage. Because i know how to do it another way that includes the shrinkage?
Working on that video very soon it will posted soon
You said multiply by 8 by 2, but you got 17, how does that work? Thank you
how do you adjust for shrink?
I will be doing a video on that in the upcoming few months
Don’t you have to include shrinkage or will you come out with the same result not including shrinkage ? Thanks
Yes you do I was just showing you the outcome on a bend though
Where would the shrinkage come into play? Are you not allowed to make the bend and then add onto both sides with more conduit?
It would come into play when you are running a conduit run. You could add to both sides but once you get the hang of running conduit, you want the least amount of couplings as possible. I'm gonna be working on a video that shows shrinkage this upcoming winter once I get back to recording more electrical videos
Shrink = constant × offset rise (x2)
FOCUS ! FOCUS !!
That right
What I don’t get is when you use the arrow the pipe comes out end like an inch and a quarter away from your mark
Pipe shrinkage you have to account for that. I literally just did a video on pipe shrinkage yesterday.. Once I get it edited I'll post it. You have to add for it
thats because you would want your center of bend to be on your pencil mark and that means you would use the notch on the ideal bendernot the arrow, give it a try and you will see
putting your pencil mark on the notch will put your mark in the center of a 30 degree bend
Exactly!!
Gracias señor
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Hey great video. Can you make a video on how to use the chart
Yes I already did and it will be on youtube on August 30th make sure to subscribe and turn on the bell notifications
Thank you
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Fantastic
Appreciate it ☺
Hey how did u get 8 1/2 to x 2
It's 8 1/2 height. The multiplier for a 30 degree bend is 2 I'm coming out with a video explaining the cosecant chart (multiplier) in 2 weeks so watch for that.
Thanks
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Thank you sir!!
My pleasure
Ok the high was 121/2 and the wide was 81/2 that gives 17 on iwach side right
Hi thanks for posting this. Where the heck did 8 1/2" come from???
That's the height of the obstruction
X2 multiplier for 30's and 1.4 for 45's
Yep exactly
Thanks bud
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Thank u
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谢谢
Good demonstration. It's cosine not cosan, though.
True 😂 😂 😂 I did say it wrong good call.. I appreciate you watching and commenting, have a great day
@@MountaineerOutdoors No problem. I wasn't sure at first if it was an accent or not but anyways good videos. I try not to be rude when making comments. Only constructive or informative reasons, not to put anyone down. Peace.
Yep I definitely was calling it wrong. I too do like you do try to help people and not be mean, some people definitely cannot take criticism which is totally insane especially when they are wrong,like I was. Anyway thanks again and stay safe from the cronoviris.
@@MountaineerOutdoors Thanks, stay safe too. Unfortunately sometimes we can't avoid the trolls and jerks on here. They like to be rude on purpose, and then there are people who think they are never wrong. Lol
Ok now I think I can apply for a electrical position
I'm always looking for a good helper 😂 😂 😂
@@MountaineerOutdoors Where you located? Just got my Jman card 6 months ago..lol
Local 82
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8 times 2 is 16 but u forgot shrinkage
nope didnt forget shrinkage this video was only to show how the basic 4 point is done in the middle of a pipe
8x2=17?
😂 😂 😂
8.5 x 2
It's sad that any union electrician apprentice is able to say no one showed them. I won't go into my diatribe about my feelings on the matter and I'm sure plenty will defend it and have smart remarks to make concerning my comment but if you don't know you'll find out how much I care seeing as your excuses to justify such behavior is extremely pitiful and pathetic. No wonder there is no unity.
I agree with you on some of the things.. But I have only been in the union since 2012 all my bending I was taught in a non union environment
Jesus Christ dude get to the point
Bruh I did otherwise the video would still be going 🙄
if you are running conduit and coming to an obstruction, this is NOT how you would get your measurements to go over... you need to factor in shrinkage so that when you go over the obstruction then the other end of your conduit will be where you need it..... in this method your starting from the obstruction, meaning at least one end will either need to be cut off (wasting pipe), or you will actually have to fill in a gap because it wasnt long enough to reach back to your already ran conduit, which is where you shouldve been starting from, not the middle of the obstruction
You see I think that this video definitely shows exactly what you said. I am pretty sure that I said that you will have to figure shrinkage. I also said that I will be doing a video showing a video on how to figure out shrinkage.