I love everything you’re doing my man. Even as an experienced conduit bender I find myself learning and improving from your videos. Im from the camp of never stop evolving and improving, and my dude you are always helping me with that. Thanks so much!
Thank you my brother. I appreciate your comment. I really enjoy making these videos. I love the fact that the new generation will have something to turn to when they need to figure something out.
When using a Chicago bender or sidewinder and you’re doing a 3 point what changes with the marks? For instance with 90’s or offsets you just put the mark with edge of the shoe, do you still use the edge of the shoe for 3 point saddles?
Great Question... and I apologize for not seeing it in time. I don't know why sometimes i don't get these comments. Anyhow to answer your question. Chicago and Sidewinder 3 point saddles. i was going to try and explain it here but it would take too long. You have to use center of bend to do saddles on those benders. There are 2 methods. 1 use center line radius measuerement so you can line up your marks on the front of shoe or hook. 2 you find the center of bends you will use for saddle and mark it on bender and use those marks to bend saddle and not the shoe or hook. I have a video where i touch on this i just can't remember which one. I'm sure its a video where i use the sidewinder.
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No you can't. But this link will take you 2 the second push thru. I have 2 out of 3. You can how ever do a push thru of this video by finding the centers of 11 degrees and 22.5 degrees and charting your bender then you can bend it by pushing through. As of now that's the only way I know how.
@Holmz Law oh yeah guess I never realized you could use it for that as long as you account for shrink, I guess you can really perform just about any bend in a specific spot
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@@mikeruano4858 I didn't come up with it my brother. It's trigonometry. For 3 point saddles we use the degrees on the outer bends to come up with the calculation. Simply put just like offsets we use the cosecant. So for 11 degrees the cosecant is something like 5.24 round it to a multiplier of 5. Done ✅ Hope that helps. Follow me on: LinkedIn/in/melvin-rubio Snapchat/holmzlaw TikTok/holmzlaw Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw Reddit/r/conduitology Reddit/holmzlaw Tradeshound/holmzlaw Twitter/holmzlaw Quora/artofconduitbending Quora/holmzlaw
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I Thought You Said 3/16" Shrinkage Per Inch For 22 1/2° ? You Now Say 2" Rise Would Be 3/16" And 4" Rise Would Be 3/8". Why Sir. Please Help Me. I Am Confused Now.
What I said was. It's 3/16" shrink for every 2" of rise. Why? Because that's what the shrink is for 11 degree saddles. That's all you have to remember.
I appreciate these vids a lot … I gotta say tho .. it’s confusing when some ppl say different things .. throws me off … I saw a vid where another guy said the shrink on a 3-point saddle was 3/16” for every inch of rise and now this guys is saying it’s 3/16” for every 2 inches of rise .. which is it ? Lol. Thanks for the help !
Steve it's like offsets it all depends on the degree of bend you are using. For a regular 22.5-45-22.5 saddle yes it's 3/16" for every inch rise. For this method on this video which is 11-22-11 it's the shrink is so minute that it has to be 3/16" for every 2 inches. There are so many different types of saddles that you can bend to different degrees. Don't forget that the degrees is what you use to you and out how much it will shrink.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending ok, thank you! And if the rise on an 11-22-22 is 1.5 inches and not quite 2, then we just don’t worry about the shrink then ? Thanks !
This is how I bend 3 point saddle over 3/4 pipe. Once I realized how the math function work, it clicked. But I use the 6 multiplier. I'll try the 5 multiplier
The 5 inches Is my spacing calculation for my 2 side bends. Because my obstruction is 1 inch and my multiplier is 5 for this type of 3 point saddle. So 1 inch x 5= 5 inches. So from my center mark i measure and mark 5 inches from my center mark on both sides of the center mark and that will be the 2 bends I do with the arrow. Hope this helps. I don't go into too much detail on how to do the 3 point saddle because I have a video explaining in detail how to actually do a 3 point saddle bend. This is more to show you the formula of a different type of saddle. Thanks for the comment. Please follow me on: Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw TikTok/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw LinkedIn/melvinrubio Snapchat/holmzlaw Tradehounds/holmzlaw Discord- discord.gg/cKgE88wW Communities: Reddit/r/conduitology Facebook/artofconduitbending LinkedIn/artofconduitbending
Dude I use this saddle today and it came out perfect! super easy to do! It worked perfect for going over ¾ and ½ EMT. Thank you so much for the cool tips.
If the pipe will be hidden by ceiling or covered up with fireproofing (blown insulation) or 40ft from floor, why wouldn’t you want to use a SHARPIE instead of a pencil? These job sites are usually have very poor lighting (temporary lights) and make it hard to see a pencil mark.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending if you woulda set that conduit on the floor I bet you it wouldn't sit flat so I wish you could shown some techniques on how to make adjustments to make it flat I don't think it's too hard to understand
😆 I was waiting for you to put it on the ground check if it's over bend or under because I can see it's under bend but overall you did a great job on these small obstruct saddles.good job
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I love everything you’re doing my man. Even as an experienced conduit bender I find myself learning and improving from your videos. Im from the camp of never stop evolving and improving, and my dude you are always helping me with that. Thanks so much!
You made my day. Thanks for the comment and most of all thanks for watching my videos.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending Hello I am interested in one to one tutoring for conduit bends
@@dianeprovencio5866 so how long have you been an electrician
Mel, Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. I am glad I discovered your channel.
Thanks again for watching
best video out there for 3 point saddle.
Dude your a good teacher ! thanks
Mel you’re a master
Thanks for this. Excited for the merch!
Mel I appreciate your expertise; ability at bending; and innovations. Wish you much success
Thank you my brother. I appreciate your comment. I really enjoy making these videos. I love the fact that the new generation will have something to turn to when they need to figure something out.
Sir I don’t see you making more videos about pipe bending ?
Great video. Keep it up
When using a Chicago bender or sidewinder and you’re doing a 3 point what changes with the marks? For instance with 90’s or offsets you just put the mark with edge of the shoe, do you still use the edge of the shoe for 3 point saddles?
Great Question... and I apologize for not seeing it in time. I don't know why sometimes i don't get these comments. Anyhow to answer your question.
Chicago and Sidewinder 3 point saddles.
i was going to try and explain it here but it would take too long. You have to use center of bend to do saddles on those benders. There are 2 methods. 1 use center line radius measuerement so you can line up your marks on the front of shoe or hook. 2 you find the center of bends you will use for saddle and mark it on bender and use those marks to bend saddle and not the shoe or hook. I have a video where i touch on this i just can't remember which one. I'm sure its a video where i use the sidewinder.
Nice ⚡. NYC make money money money. Thanks for teaching.
Thanks for watching I really appreciate it.
You rock instrument tubbing
straight pipe is fast pipe! yup i allwys use a pencle! also you can right on unfinished sheetrock! good video Brouther ! thanks
Thank you for sharing God bless you
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Can you use the push through method for all 3 configurations of a 3-point saddle?
No you can't. But this link will take you 2 the second push thru. I have 2 out of 3. You can how ever do a push thru of this video by finding the centers of 11 degrees and 22.5 degrees and charting your bender then you can bend it by pushing through. As of now that's the only way I know how.
@Holmz Law oh yeah guess I never realized you could use it for that as long as you account for shrink, I guess you can really perform just about any bend in a specific spot
@@robbysanchez6514 that's exactly correct.
@Holmz Law or whateva the case may be
Does the multiplier 5 work for all size pipes such as 1/2 - 1 1/4? for small obstructions?
Yes the multiplier stays the same for every size conduit. The multiplier only changes depending on the degree you are bending. Hope this helps.
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@@TheArtOfConduitBending how did you come up with the mulitplier? for distance of outer bends?
@@mikeruano4858 I didn't come up with it my brother. It's trigonometry. For 3 point saddles we use the degrees on the outer bends to come up with the calculation. Simply put just like offsets we use the cosecant. So for 11 degrees the cosecant is something like 5.24 round it to a multiplier of 5. Done ✅
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That’s my question
I get it
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I Thought You Said 3/16" Shrinkage Per Inch For 22 1/2° ? You Now Say 2" Rise Would Be 3/16" And 4" Rise Would Be 3/8". Why Sir. Please Help Me. I Am Confused Now.
What I said was. It's 3/16" shrink for every 2" of rise. Why? Because that's what the shrink is for 11 degree saddles. That's all you have to remember.
I appreciate these vids a lot … I gotta say tho .. it’s confusing when some ppl say different things .. throws me off … I saw a vid where another guy said the shrink on a 3-point saddle was 3/16” for every inch of rise and now this guys is saying it’s 3/16” for every 2 inches of rise .. which is it ? Lol. Thanks for the help !
Steve it's like offsets it all depends on the degree of bend you are using. For a regular 22.5-45-22.5 saddle yes it's 3/16" for every inch rise. For this method on this video which is 11-22-11 it's the shrink is so minute that it has to be 3/16" for every 2 inches. There are so many different types of saddles that you can bend to different degrees. Don't forget that the degrees is what you use to you and out how much it will shrink.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending ok, thank you! And if the rise on an 11-22-22 is 1.5 inches and not quite 2, then we just don’t worry about the shrink then ? Thanks !
Which do you use on the 1" Klein bender(56205)?
Same spots
Hey so why did you do a multiplier of 5 with the 22.5 degree center bend shouldn’t it be a multiplier of 2.6 and a shrink of 3/16 per inch
no 2.6 is for 45 degree. I'm doing 22.5 center bend and 11 on the sides. Thats why this is called the half method.
3 point 22.5 🤔?
Yes. Is there something that has you confused?
This is how I bend 3 point saddle over 3/4 pipe. Once I realized how the math function work, it clicked. But I use the 6 multiplier. I'll try the 5 multiplier
I thought it was 3/16?for every 1 inch ? …. I could be wrong
You have to pay attention. This is a different degree of saddle.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending copy that thank you
It is for every inch
Sometimes called a 'Half Angle Three Point Saddle'.
I got the center mark but where did you get 5 in from the center from is that the stub subtraction
The 5 inches Is my spacing calculation for my 2 side bends. Because my obstruction is 1 inch and my multiplier is 5 for this type of 3 point saddle. So 1 inch x 5= 5 inches. So from my center mark i measure and mark 5 inches from my center mark on both sides of the center mark and that will be the 2 bends I do with the arrow. Hope this helps. I don't go into too much detail on how to do the 3 point saddle because I have a video explaining in detail how to actually do a 3 point saddle bend. This is more to show you the formula of a different type of saddle. Thanks for the comment.
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Wow man thank you for replying to me I appreciate it and I love the videos keep up the good work
@@travishamilton1659 anytime.
Dude I use this saddle today and it came out perfect! super easy to do! It worked perfect for going over ¾ and ½ EMT. Thank you so much for the cool tips.
@@travishamilton1659 glad I could help
If the pipe will be hidden by ceiling or covered up with fireproofing (blown insulation) or 40ft from floor, why wouldn’t you want to use a SHARPIE instead of a pencil? These job sites are usually have very poor lighting (temporary lights) and make it hard to see a pencil mark.
Pencil works in all situations.
Exelente!!!
It doesn't look flat I wish you woulda shown how you adjust it to make it straight
please explain what you mean exactly. and I'll help you as much as I can.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending if you woulda set that conduit on the floor I bet you it wouldn't sit flat so I wish you could shown some techniques on how to make adjustments to make it flat I don't think it's too hard to understand
😆 I was waiting for you to put it on the ground check if it's over bend or under because I can see it's under bend but overall you did a great job on these small obstruct saddles.good job
@@godfirst8018 thank you you saw it too
That bend is definitely not right.
get some merch!
Honestly I m working on it. It's hard to co.e up with something.
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I didn’t understand
What don't you understand? Maybe I can help you somehow.
I got it I just wasn’t paying good enough attention that you
@@TheArtOfConduitBendingI watched this video like ten times
Thanks Mel you’re video saved me and gave it a nice look
Tooooooo much explaination bro!!
Thanks I'm learning.
Calm lil fit
You clearly know your stuff but try using a script if you want more followers. Blessings
I've been told
Yes this coming new year . Will be different. More organized and like you said it will be scripted . No more repeating and rambling
Put in on the floor
Lol
Bro that pipe aint even straight put it on the wall😂
Yeah ok... Lol
That shit way off
@@torpedo562 thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Too much talk
Grrrrr tooo much!!! Talk!!!
Sorry. Won't happen again.