Box Offsets, 3 Point Saddle Bend, Parallel EMT Bends and Concentric 90° Stubs all in One Conduit
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This is exactly how we were taught in the IBEW. I am no longer an Inside wireman but sometimes I have to be as an Industrial mechanic. When I need a refresher your videos are a lifesaver. There is real financial value in what you are teaching. I thank you immensely for doing it for free. i happily subscribed.
Thanks David! Welcome to Sparky Channel!
Mr sparky, you shouldda go on a tour teaching, I ll attend one of your seminars,
Thanks I learned a lot with this vid.
Why are you no longer in the IBEW?
I can do all but the saddle. I never got the hang of 3 points. The rest is simple.
Same as me, I used to do pipe often , but since I haven’t I’ve come here for refreshers
Your the first person I've seen actually measure a box offset.
It's good to teach it that way for those who are just learning this skill. Later on, when they are experienced, they can try doing it by eye.
Foreal but I’m not mad at it 💪🏾
I got into the habit of marking my box offsets after watching the Ideal video with Ron. I do it for consistency. Now I can eye ball it, but if I need to do a bunch to match I'll take the extra few secs to mark them out.
@@danielhady3021 you can save time by using 4 fingers from end of pipe to first mark every time without measuring
@@fredbledsoe9841 exactly.
When we were allowed to run pipes in steeldeck, i automaticly knew were to put my hand on the bender and when the pipe reached it, i left my hand there and simply turn the pipe and bend it again until it reached my hand with the same feel.
2" offset quick and easy. Almost never had to correct it ..perfect offset without having to compare it with an other straight pipe.
Like you said, muscle memory!
Young guys starting out in the trade do not realize how much they've got it made nowdays, with the availability of info on the internet especially You Tube. The stuff this gentleman is teaching on his channel is essential fundamental knowledge that I learned when I started in the early 80's and you need to learn too to become knowledgeable and competent in the trade, and down the road when you test for your Master's License.
Right on brother! ⚡
I was just thinking about this the other day. So much knowledge available on the internet. I feel like a lot of people take it for granted.
I bent my first pipe in 1977 and still doing it to this day. I learned all my tricks from watching guys like you on the job. Nothing is as pretty as a bunch of parallel pipes with perfect bands. I hate walking up to somebody else's job and having to run my stuff crooked so that it looks straight because the last guy didn't take the time. When an inspector walks up and sees a nice pipe job, he knows that you know what you're doing and will be nice to you on every job in the future. I developed some good relationships with inspectors over the years this way.
Thanks so much! 1977 was a good year! Yes, it's important to gain the trust of an inspector by having him respect your work!
@@SparkyChannel I was 15 when I learned from my first mentor. Another man I worked with was an old gray guy in his mid 70s. The man knew his stuff! Another taught me that I'm not just bending pipe, I'm covering wire. I always keep the wire and pull in mind when you're running your pipe. You're not just connecting boxes.
I started in 80. Still doing it to this day. Pipe work is nice...but, as a 1 man show, I don't have the time to make it perfect. You can make your bends a bit long long and trim with a recip saw. Time is $, couplers are cheap. Makes for a good video. Apparently I don't like bending over my work to check angle degrees. I was glad to finally see the bender head in the air, not on the ground. That's my .02
I cant beleive this is free. God bless you man. Id pay you just to have a few hours of your time to learn more. I start today as an apprentice doing conduit bending. Im nervous but excited at the same time. Thank you for taking your time and showing us.
GBY as well! Best wishes!
How's it going man?? I'm looking to start my career as well
@@davidmunoz8326 Excellent! It's the best trade IMO.
@@SparkyChannel i just graduated from trade school and am looking into getting in the field. Any tips?
I’ve been a commercial electrician for around 35 years. Words of advice are to watch any videos you can find on electrical. There are basic videos of basic wiring and more technical videos on lighting controls, motor controls, and PLC’s for example. It only benefits you to learn as much as you can on your career. (Another suggestion, buy a GREENLEE conduit bender.There are more markings for guidance.)
I have been plumbing for about 28 years, just kinda stuck with it, but working alongside electricians has always made me jealous. you guys have the best tools and the cleanest tools. If I had to do all over again, I would definitely be a Sparky. Great video.
I went into electrical because my dad was a drywall finisher and I wanted to go into the trades too, he said I should be a plumber or an electrician because theres more work year round up here in Wisconsin. I went with electrical cause I always liked math and computers, I really like it, but I like building my house overall too.
I worked professionally as a concrete finisher, plasterer, roofer, plumber, carpenter and draftsman. I became jealous of the electrician's like you did so I became one. IMO it's the best trade. Thanks!
You’re like the Bob Ross of pipe bending. Great explanation and enjoyable to watch. Thank you
Huge compliment! RIP Bob!
I wish the IEC taught it that in depth. Thank you for taking the time to be so clear and detailed. The three point saddle was something I just could not get the concept of and you showed just how easy it was. I feel like I could go do it now.
Glad it was helpful!
As a 1st year apprentice this was immensely helpful. You explained it in a way that leaves absolutely zero questions.
Great to hear! Thanks!
The world needs people like you champion. Thanks for your video.
My pleasure, thanks Franklyn!
I never thought there might be a person, explaining so easy to understand.
I just started my first site Monday as a jw. Bending emt is and always was my thing. Always was the guy piping electrical rooms and all that. I see a lot of apprentices in these comments. My biggest piece of advice, don’t overthink this stuff, and it’s gonna take you some time to be able to bend nice and clean and find the best routes.
I love it! And congrats on becoming Journeyman Wireman!
Did you set up a practice wall at home to work through the learning curve?
ubrayj02 no. Haha. I worked under a couple of old timers. Just real pain in the ass, bitter dudes that would yell and yell until it was right. It just takes time and effort man. This entire trade gives you what you put into it. Always remember, Rome wasn’t built in a day. Haha.
That is exactly right. Don't over think it
I’m glad i can come to your channel to learn what my trade school is unable to teach Because of time restrictions, thank you
I'm glad I could help!
What a great resource for electricians. Completed my apprenticeship and now going to test with the ibew. These bends are the exact ones i have to study for my JW test
Fantastic! You can do it!
I absolutely loved your casual demeanor on this video
Thanks so much. That's the way I work in real life. You live longer that way. lol! I learned it from my Dad, and I hope I can pass it on to others.
Ive been bending conduit for 15plus yrs and i have to say your a great teacher so keep it up and God Bless
Wow, thanks!
Yup, after 40 plus years as an electrician, I must say. I'm truly grateful for the good engineers electrician and programmers that have shared skills with me over the years. I'm still learning after Years of IBEW and DBA industrial automation systems.
Electrical trade is the best, I still love going to work and have never ever been without work. The science of electricity is amazing, We truly make life and the world a better place...
Love to see shared knowledge and is nothing better than group's of concentric conduits installed correctly! It's an art.
I sure do agree! Thanks!
Been watching you for a few years. I’m still in my apprenticeship.your a top notch electrician. Thanks for the video!
I appreciate that! Thanks so much!
Interesting methodology. Sin(10 deg) = 1/5.76, which is close enough to 1/6 to remember without a calculator. And the one side 'shrink' is (1-cos(22.5))*(height/sin(22.5)) = 0.2*height, which is rounded to 3/16" per inch on an old style tape measure. With all of this complexity, it is easy to see how experienced guys choose one method, memorize the ratios, and use them every day. Best video I've found on this topic.
Thanks so much!
Nothing looks more professional than proper offsets, parallel bends, and concentric 90 degree stubs. _"Make it look professional"_ is such an underrated statement/request!
Well said! Thanks so much, I totally agree! :)
I am a journeyman electrician in Alaska with IBEW 1547 and I adore watching your videos. I send your videos to my apprentices
That is awesome! Thanks so much Sam. If you would like some Sparky Channel stickers write me at wpm44@yahoo.com and I'll send you some. I have 3 kinds: regular, Power Calcs and emt bending.
When I started reading my conduit bending book I knew that this subject was going to be easier learn visually. Now I can see the math with practical application. Thank you sir
Excellent! Sounds right to me. I learn much better visually too.
Very good instructional, presented well, explained thoroughly and demonstrated flawlessly. I never did catch on to bending EMT the right way...methodically even though I got to help wire everything from the switch room to the transformers, circuit breaker panels, fuse boxes and outlets in a new production facility. Wish I had seen your videos back then. Retired now but not afraid now to help bend EMT. Thank you for these excellent tutorials!
Hi Rene! Thanks for your years of service helping to build America!
the Scotty Kilmer of electrical
LOL!
I was thinking the exact same thing! I though they must be brothers!😁🛫
This is how I was taught in 1st yr of the IBEW program. Learning the math, shrink factors, and multipliers. I try to use this method as much as possible as opposed to cut to fit to keep myself sharp. You make it look so easy and natural. 3 pt and 4 pt saddles are really easy to mess up with dog legs etc. 1/2" emt is atleast easy to fix but it gets a lot tougher with the larger diameters or RMC.
I actually feel smarter after watching this video lol. You made it too easy to learn.
That's great, thanks Joshua!
My respects 👏🏼 first journey/master electrician seen actually measure a box 📦 offset. Always been told just to eye it, and remember my first two years always going over haha.
Thanks Mike!
Oh my gosh. I have a headache. Stars, arrows, notches, blue moons, and green clovers. Raised on rigid benders, just not that complicated. Also,I would recommend that beginners use the bender the way it was intended, until you get a feel for the bend, use the foot pedal and make sure you apply good foot pressure. Or you will end up with crinkled radius. If you dont apply the correct pressure at the right place when bending head up, you will end up with crinkled conduit ridius and a bow in the straight. Conduit bending is awesome, this was a great video and a great job, just adding my 2cents. I was so lucky as an apprentice 40yrs ago to have men like this to teach me.
Thanks Joe!
Beautiful work after 25 years on electrical field in Chicago Illinois bending conduit I still learning 👍👍👍
Fantastic! I'm still learning too!
Now this is a tutorial.
Information on why to do what you need to do.
Plainly written out the data needed.
Clear description of that to do as it's being done.
Thanks John!
I love looking at conduit runs in amusement parks 🙂
Me too! :)
That’s great. Years back I got questioned by security at Disneyland when I was following their fire raceways.
@@MarcoPolo-zc6zo LOL! I know exactly what you're saying.
Only thing I would’ve done differently is a 4 bend saddle so all the pipes look the same. That also leaves way to add on to the other pvc pipe in the future.
That's really smart !
Just finished my trade school last year this video helped me tremendously thank you for the time out of your day and great job btw
Thanks so much!
Best explanation I've seen on youtube.
Thanks so much!
@Mae Barker Excellent!
Thanks!
Word I'm always told just give it a little ummph and other ummmph lmao
I'd like to thank you for your thorough explanation of electrical flow and circuits. Your video has given me confidence in doing certain basic home projects with safety in mind. Thanks sparky!
Unbelievable easy to understand explanation, if I can understand, it means everybody in the world can understand it. Thank you so much for your hard work and shaving your knowledge.
I would just like to add, the arrow is front of bend, notch is center of bend and star is back of bend, any bend any time. I use them all. My three bend saddle is a push though with star, notch, arrow.
Great video lots of ways to skin a cat. Thank you
Great tip, thanks!
Very helpful. Nice introduction to accurately bending conduit. There sure is a lot involved.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks Stuart!
You are a gifted teacher...thank you!
Thanks Aaron!
the beginning of the year I started electrical work for 2 months then laid off due to the cough finally got into school for an union apprenticeship and am nervous as anything because I learned hardly anything. I hope someone like you is training me
I understand. Best wishes!
Hey, it's not just a cough! I think there is some sneezing too.....
Awwwww....you will be fine, my man. I was just like you, but i came into the app. program at the age of 38, and i was the same way you were....we will show you what you NEED to know, in all aspects of being "on the jobsite', with all proper PPE. And know how. Do not fear, trust me. just do what your told, and show RESPECT to everyone that runs in your path, along your carrier. And DO NOT BURN ANY BRIDGES, its a very small union world!! be safe and ON TIME!
The best teacher for bending pipe
Thanks so much!
This guy is an excellent teacher.
Thanks Lincoln!
Wow, thank you so much!
I learn so much better after work and , at my own pace, learning from you. Priceless knowledge. Thank you again!
Excellent, thanks Steven!
I could have used this back in 04. Thanks for posting! I like pipe bending videos.
You're welcome!
Applied for my electrician apprenticeship.. my brother been teaching me since he is a electrician himself and trying get me a job so i gotta learn as much as i can
That's great Roberto!
You get into an apprenticeship yet?
This was a great video.. I’m very grateful because my instructor is not that good on teaching.
I’m 42 years old and I’m just learning how to bend pipe thank you
Fantastic! Best wishes.
Conduit bending was one of the programs I took at a technical college. It was so much fun bending 1/2”,3/4,”1” and 2” EMT.
Excellent!
I taught myself how to bend pipe started with 1 1/4 emt a 90 degree bend not hard at all for me...
Bump for your new channel op. Bet it's even better.
I think so. Thanks!
I’m very blessed. As an ibew jw inside wireman. Ive took great pleasure in learning conduit, and am arguably one of the best in my local on any side -emt, rigid, or robroy. Its art and should be treated as such
I agree!
Find a job you love; never work another day of you life.
Great video.
😊
Nice!
Good skills!
In the UK we would call this a double set out from the box, and a bubble set to get over the pipe. We don’t use the hand tool you have there - we use a pipe vice and bender for all our tube, ours is normally threaded as well - the stuff your using we call conlock
Excellent!
After years of running raceway of all types EMT GRC IMC PVC NMT and my favorite of all has to be Greenfield and no inside screw connectors!
But yes I was able to do a lot of bends by feel and a general measurement mostly for length.
Now the work of art that is being demonstrated is different and all angles have to line up accordingly.
Most excellent presentation.
Thanks so much!
I started my apprenticeship 17 years ago as a low voltage guy. I'm still kicking myself that I didn't go electrician.
Best wishes!
In my opinion Star, notch, arrow in that order is a great alternative to the traditional 3 point bend of notch, arrow, flip, arrow. No takinging the pipe out and flipping it arround and allows you to saddle closer to the edge of a pipe.
Thanks Abel!
Your are my teacheeeer!! I’m going to tell you that in Spanish too” tu eres mi profesooorrrr “ 😀
¡Gracias!
We just got into conduit bending in the level one electrical course I’m taking and this cleared up a ton of the confusion I had. Good stuff
Excellent!
This video is a life saver, as it very simply explained exactly what I needed to know.
Thanks!
I'll tell you the same thing my apprentices used to tell me when I had to show them how to bend a conduit, they said couldn't be done in one piece. "Not bad for an old guy".
LOL! As long as you can do it, it doesn't matter how old you are. :)
Saw this while in Trade School as part of the visual learning in the Level 1 curriculum before we actually bent some conduit, was incredibly helpful
Awesome, what trade school did you go to?
@Sparky Channel. Thanks Bill for these educational videos. I hope they may spark interest in the electrical trades. College education is not for everyone and some have realized it's not for them. Tech and manufacturing jobs don't happen without the carpenters, electricians, HVAC, masons, plumbers, and other trades who build and outfit the buildings.
Hope you and your family stay well and safe.
Good points! Thanks and have a great day! You guys stay safe as well.
I don't kno jack about being an electrician or construction for that matter im a truck driver but dam this video was very interesting 🤔 I wish the teachers in school taught like this more people would pay attention in school if things made sense and are interesting, great video sir you got yourself a subscriber.
Thanks so much!
Nice illustration “Sparky” love your feed
One thing though you forgot to show the last box offset
Learning more and more from your channel
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Thanks Chris!
i learn alot and i always watch your channel.
Great to hear!
Very good video. Very educational. I learned a lot from it. Thanks for sharing. Take care and God Bless.
Excellent! God Bless you as well!
I like it, but I wish you had shown how you did the last box offset
Here you go: How To Make a Box Offset on the End of a Long and Complicated Conduit: th-cam.com/video/z8idfgOQby0/w-d-xo.html
It’s tricky because of the long end before the 90 , and a short pipe for leverage after the 90…. He probably fumbled around for a minute
Don’t forget shrinkage ! It’s minimal for a box of set but that space in the connector can hook fishtape and skin wire
I usually measure every bend but for box offsets I usually just make a mark at 1” and 4” and use the tip of the shoe instead of the line or arrow
I have no idea in the world what you guys are talking about... 😒
Just learning to bend pipe. Thank you sir
You can do it!
Good job teaching. Very helpful. Thanks
Thanks Richard!
Thank you, I really appreciate you taking the time to share your wisdom with us- priceless
Watching this vid encourages me to proceed being a sparky. Thank you for this video. I enjoyed watching it.
You can do it!
You are such a great person god bless you with lots of honer
Thanks so much Abaid!
You sir are an electrical ninja
Thanks!
Thanks sparky, I learn better by showing/ doing.
In a world where I run screw pipe, the most difficult bend I've had to make are box offsets in 1" plastibond. lemme tell you, I've learned to despise all other benders that aren't ideal brand.
I made all my own pipe benders, which basically solved most problems,
Thanks Sparky! you're the best.
Thanks Lex!
Omg 😮I love this channel and as new sparky this is gold!! I’m goin to make myself a board like this to practice my bends
Excellent!
Sparky is awesome instructor.👍
Thanks so much!
I always thought "concentric" 90s meant that each conduit run had a larger radius so that the 2" spacing is maintained at all points.
Yeah I think he has it wrong. Concentric literally just means the center point is the same. If you imagine each bend as a full circle, their centers should all be the same for concentric bends.
it would have been useful for you to show the box offset on the 90 that will have to be done in the air cause of your saddle and its a pain in the ass to get the plain to line up thats why i live standoff straps cause any other electrician ever bend everything perfect then dog the last box offset i have
Yep
Thank you so much for making these video! Simple and professional and great knowledge 😃🙌😎
Thanks!
@4:40...
Yeah the accepted Paradigm for the Box offset what you demonstrated is classical and basically perfect enough but I'm of the opinion you should move your first mark back Four even 5in... I like to have a little more latitude for any fine-tuning and precision I like to get my bends perfect and if you I have a small bit of pipe to work with on the nose it's just harder I found then if you give yourself that few extra inches also to when feeding wire it tends to act as a barrel to make it guide a little bit straighter and not get bound on the inside edge of the connector...
Specifically if you have insulated throat bushings I mean that's all cool I love them but the threads in there A lot of times especially if you're just pushing the wire box-to-box gets bound up on that inside thread on those small box offsets...
I tried this yesterday for the first time of my life. Dear God I didn’t think it would be that hard
It does take practice. :)
Good quality Precision work... well done...
Yeah I love the laser it's all cool and stuff but start feeling the hustle and grind on the job you ain't got time for that or space to do it there's six other trades of contractors running around you and there ain't no way that things stand up on the tripod and one piece by the end of the day... you know damn well a plumber or drywallers going to knock that thing over...
Get two good aluminum torpedo levels... and THEN the laser!
Thanks and good tips!
You make it look easy. Thanks Sparky.
Thanks so much Gary!
This bending crap...gives me a brain tumor! I stick with plumbing better! Turd chasers...all the way!
You sir, are a very good teacher. Thank you
Thanks David!
Really great content man, keep up the great work :)
Thanks, will do!
Truly a master
Thanks so much!
I want to see more on the second box offset. That's where I always mess up
Here you go: How To Make a Box Offset on the End of a Long and Complicated Conduit: th-cam.com/video/z8idfgOQby0/w-d-xo.html
Excellent video 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Martin!
I bent pipe from 1990 to 92 it was the best part of the job. After work slowed down I got out of electrical work. But I sure miss it sometimes. Also is it just me or does that Romex stuff just don’t seem right to use
Hi! I agree, wire run in EMT makes a better and longer lasting job.
Thanks so much again!! I will check out the videos soon!
Please do, thanks Bob!
Beautiful tutorial sir thank you very much!!!!!
No problem, thanks!
Well I'm an elevator constructor, we definitely can't bend pipe like the sparkys. This video is gonna save a lot pipe because I somehow make my bends then cut off what I don't need or cut and add couplers if I miss my mark lol...thank you
My pleasure. Thanks for keeping those elevators working!
Lol these numbers are stuck in my head from doing them so much I was saying em right away. Great video for those learning though.
Nice!
i normally like to go through 2 or 3 extra emt when im bending !!!
I understand.
Great Job Buddy, Thank You!
No problem, thanks!
I know you were trying to demonstrate a 3 point saddle but it would look much more professional to match the adjacent 4 point saddles! And you're being much nicer for the next guy to come along since you left a space for him!
Great video though. I always find myself fiddling with my 3 point saddles a lot to get them straight
Mike, you've given me a good idea for another video. It's realistic too, because sometimes you have to follow what a previous guy did to make it look professional. Thanks!
@@SparkyChannel my pleasure! If you're doing a video on matching existing bends, I'd love to see if you have any tricks for starting/stopping them in the right place when the initial bends no longer have any markings.
@@olsenmichael1991 Oh yeah, I definitely have tricks for that. It's easy but it does require some good planning.
gracias MASTER, por compartir sus conocimientos
¡Gracias!