A BUDGET Pre-Built Keyboard For Anyone... (Tide 65/75)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- In this vid I look at the Epomaker Tide 65 and Tide 75 budget custom keyboards! (sponsored by Epomaker)
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The surge of metal keyboards at this price range is absolutely insane, I haven't been in this hobby for over a year and I remember when the cheapest aluminum boards were around $200
75%.
Losing F keys is not something I'll ever accept.
F
F
if you know how to count you can just press fn + 1 to "= +" keys to get f1 to f12... not a big deal
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 It is a big deal when playing games, I have keys bounded to stuff on function keys.
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 That's the least contributing post possible. Why so condescending?
10:56 Removing the PET sheet from the top of the PCB will significantly reduce the volume of a board. PET is not an absorption layer like foams, it is massively reflective of the mid and high frequencies, so it sends them all straight up at you rather than letting them be absorbed by the PCB and other things below it in the case. PET along with very crisp HMX switches is why the Rainy75 almost sounds foamless stock even though it has ALL the foam layers. If you removed the foams but left the PET where it's supposed to be, it would have stayed loud if not gotten louder, but likely less clean sounding as the sound waves have more opportunity to bounce around.
The $100 keyboard price range has been going insaneo style recently
cool
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not really. every single one is still foam reliant, filled with flexcuts, super duper low quality, qc issues, given to tiktokers and these shityo tech guy who goes "omg so creamy, best creamy thock kilmat makes keychron best budget keyboard poppy thocky, ws morandis + amazon clones = thocc creamy!"
@@forg.a someone sounds salty and/or elitist. The $100 price range has vastly improved in quality compared to a few years ago. Of course a $100 board will still have flaws compared to the features of more expensive boards on the market. But that doesn’t matter to someone entering the hobby. All that matters is that these sort of boards get you 80% there (in terms of build quality and features) for a fraction of the cost.
Tide 75, Looks to be a $140 USD for Canada on the Epomaker site. Could get a 96/98% keyboard for about a little less but also less metal/features/VIA software compatible.
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@@RBCheddarlol
@@HipyoTech u should hook me up for a keyboard
I will not read your comment.
PLEASE REVIEW AULA F75 ITS $40-70 AND SOUNDS HEAVENLY
It also has flip out feet that he mentioned in this video
YES
It's in my closet
Seconded
@@HipyoTech well is it good?
Possible explanation: The foam as part of the keyboard “sandwich” could have made a condition that amplified specific noise frequencies as you type on it. When the foam was removed from the “sandwich”, instead of foam to carry the vibrations, now there was only air. This concentrates the vibrations into the supports, which were dealt with via the gasket and force break mods. There is probably the tiniest echo inside the case because of the empty space, but it’s not large enough to make a significantly loud sound.
I think the force break mod is doing a much bigger job at handling the noise than you might have anticipated. On one hand it’s cool that just a bit of strategic tape placement could have that big a change in sound, on the other hand it’s another avenue manufacturers can take to make their products more appealing to customers. Imagine if these various mods were standard in mechanical keyboards, I think we would have more people in the hobby if that was the case!
I think it's probably mostly the improved gasket performance and force break mod doing the heavy lifting.
75% gang. I bought a 60% a long time ago (poker 2) and playing starcraft without the F keys was a nightmare (F keys can be used to move the camera quickly).
Same functuonalities in league but theyre not nearly as stanned for as in sc2
wait what the price went up for the keyboards
the 65% is 120, and 75% is 140 which is kinda sad
pink and purple is cheaper tho but not my type of color
Ok, I'm probably in the absolute minority, but 80%. The numpad can go, but I want my arrow keys 3 button and 6 button islands to be in a familiar place. And given my preference and budget, my entry into the hobby ended up being a Keychron. But it would be nice if 80% got some more love when 65% vs 75% is pretty much the standard discussion.
THIS. i love seperate arrow keys and the island!! its so nice to look at as a layout!! i wish there were more people that loved this layout
Agreed, 80% /TKL for me.
You should review the Epomaker AK820 Pro, it’s around 60 dollars and it has RGB, thocky switches, wireless 2.4 GHZ and an LCD screen.
i think its by ajazz
Can you do a ISO recommendation Video?
This!! Would love to see one!
Flippy feet put more stress on your wrist by angling the keyboard and forcing tension in the wrist muscles. The only reason you would want them is to adjust the ergonomics, but they just make the ergonomics worse, so companies are right to leave them out.
What if I want them?
Lowkey just want them to fidget with…most expensive fidget toy
You should try some keyboards from temu and try and mod them lol
hehehe
@@HipyoTechthat would be so funny to see you mod a temu keyboard😂
100%. i want my numpad back. the only reason my current keyboard is a 75% is because that's what my laptop has.
Most people do not need a numpad
@@CodeVenomSnakesthat’s true, but some of us are the guys and gals that are either using the numpad constantly or allocate a ton of shortcuts to the keys.
Tons of people need numpad. Anyone doing office production needs numpad.
Left handed gamers use numpad. A lot easier remapping keys to numpad and never needing to move your right hand. While right hand gamers are moving their left hand all over the place.
Gamers who don't play fps or third person. Tactical, strategy, simulation, management, tycoon games and war simulation games have a crap ton of key mappings.
I still think the lefties might need it more then the righties but right handers should really have numpad on left hand side.
I mean you have right hand gamers and production people buying "macro" keypads. Basically buying a numpad reconfigured instead of a numpad on left hand side.
But I can totally see why right handers don't want a numpad. The mouse is in the right hand they can't use the numpad anyway with letting go of mouse.
While us lefties have a free right hand and can use the entire numpad as remappings or macros and basically never move right hand position.
@@CodeVenomSnakesbut some people want a numpad ??
@@nofilterneitoyou can do the same by just using modifier keys without the need for numpad
honestly I think 65% is the way to go just for more desk space and they just look cleaner to me! Also I have been waiting for a video on a 65% for sooo long thank you Lord Hipyo and Lord Nola for delivering are entertainment!!!
The front facing keycaps are fine. Perhaps the font doesn't appeal to everyone, but it has the space-theme look. But they're double-shot and the blank tops are clean.
100% all the way. Heck, if you make a nice design make it 125%.
I miss the times when Keyboards had flair aside from "Oh, this one has a different paint job"
ngl as a professional who uses numpad everyday I'd love a 125% board for shortcuts
I mean I have layers for them already but it'd be really cool to just press one key instead of 2 for that
But also it's just really sad that there are so few 100% options apart from Keycrhon and Ducky, it'd be great to have some of these new gimmicks/developments that are on smaller boards to be on a full-size board for once
the correct Layout is TKL with a separated Numpad so you can put it above and or the left of the board
I like TKL which is like 80%? Just a few more keys gives you a keyboard layout analogous to normal full size keyboards so you don't get whiplash when you need to use one.
100% gang (I use Blender, of COURSE i need a numpad) (also being on linux, f keys are useful sometimes)
Which country are you from
I prefer 75%, it is functional and is the best looking layout imo. That is why I am considering the Ajazz AK820 Pro and I hope you will review it soon.
Totally recommend it :) i got it after getting the Hi75, and it's truly great !
100% gang XD but I am trying my first 75% soon. That said, I'd love to see some Monsgeek love! I just recently built an M5W as my first custom keyboard and also just bought the M1W V3 they released on the 7th.
i hate to say it, but the rainy75 is still my favorite. Everything from the sound, typing feel, and board design are just better. What do you think?
Regarding the upper and lower case housing for the switches, PA = polyamine = Nylon. So the upper housing is Nylon 6 while the bottom housing is Nylon 6,6.
The reason I didn't buy the Rainy75 or Zoom75 was because I like my knob. It's nice to see a similar board that has one. IMO knobs should be standard at this point.
who doesn’t like their own knob
I suspect the volume lost is mostly from removing the foam between the plate and PCB. In a PCB with so many flex cuts, running foamless seems to result in a pretty empty / full sound (rather than acting as a dampener in a plate / PCB assembly with less air / opportunities for sound to resonate / reflect). Scott from the Keybored youtube channel has a great video on foams and how they impact sound for anyone interested!
I think the default keycaps look great on this board!
I personally like how the characters on colorful shine-through keycaps look without backlight (like a darker version of the keycap color itself). This subtle color on the front of the keys seems like a decent compromise between completely clean keycaps and still having legends.
The straight lines of the font also work pretty well with the design of the keyboard imo.
Plus I'd always prefer this consistent rectangular font over cheap keycaps with a regular font that looks different on every key.
I've noticed that capton tape is like your gling wrap mod but on steroids. It causes the build to sound so much louder when it's taped on the front of the pcb under the switches. You should try it.
Now that I have one of the competitive $100 keyboards (Rainy75), I actually wanna see the same thing happen at the $200 price point. I think a lot of people would still pay that much if the value was similar to the recent $100 boards.
75%. Those function keys are essential to code quickly
Epomaker is easily my favorite keyboard company. They even make really good switches
It got quieter because the foam added rigidity to the board making the full travel of the switch more impactful. When you removed the foam the chassis is allowed to flex more and thus dampens the travel of the switch because a lighter amount of pressure make the case flex now. At least that's my theory.
After getting my ak820 pro ajazz epomaker keyboard as my first keyboard I’m still interested in it’s comparison to other boards hipyo has tried, maybe a top ten under $100 keyboards is over due
How keycaps change a board is wild! I got my first mechanical keyboard recently (an Epomaker RT100 with sea salt switches), and the sound was fine. However, I *hated* the typing experience with their keycaps. I swapped them for one of the recent LotR ones from Drop, and not only does it feel better to type on, it actually sounds better to my ears. Of course, it's all personal preference.
Function keys are a must
Seeing lots of people say 75 but I think it depends on your needs! I’m into 65 bc it’s easily portable, I don’t need f row commands for any of my games, and I’m a humanities major so I don’t even need a num pad if we’re talking larger layouts lol
dude im so happy that the keyboard scene is finally at a point where anybody can buy a custom keyboard not not sound really bad or look cheap for under 150.
100%. I want it all.
75% is definitely more attractive to me. I love the smaller size that 65-68% provides, but it's so inconvenient to have to keep double tapping the function key for specific actions. 75% makes life easier while also not being too big.
I've been thinking of getting a new board, but my cat will not be happy if I go beyond a 65% so for that reason, that's what I've been looking for, but as you said, most of these new options have been 75%
Have you ever checked out the Klim Shift 60? It's pretty interested and wireless - got it for 20€ and it was insane!
Sleeping on the EPOMAKER Ajazz AK820 Pro 75%. Even the gift switches that come as an option is the thockiest plastic case I have ever owned. Better than a lot of aluminum cases. I switched out to the Flamingo switches and, my god!
Plus knob AND LCD screen?!? And it's like $70
I prefer 65% because they're the perfect size to slide out of the way on my desk, throw at a home invader while I reach for the boomstick, or scratch my back.
I only really use the F-row to alt F4, accidentally refresh the page in the middle of typing a comment, and toggle my desktop icons (with F12 and an .ahk). So holding down the Fn key is a fair compromise to me.
I used to be team 75%, but I've gotten used to the muscle memory of FN + number row for function keys on 65%
Oh yeah Hipyo, the luminkey65 also has the same thing with its casefoam. It actually gets louder and clackier with the bottom case foam. Really neat stuff! I'm glad to see you taking foams out since nice sound foamless is a sign of a quality board. If it sounds good foamless and with foam, it's doubly worth someone's money since it provides more options down the line!
Lemokey P1 (guessing it's going to be Q1 Max variant) should be off KS next month. The no cost shipping is nice as it looks like they sent my ND75 via boat and still charged $30 for the shipping... I don't mind paying for shipping but at the price everyone else sends DHL and it takes about a week, Chilkey told me 25 business days, personally to methat in unacceptable and I wouldn't have ordered it if I knew it would take that long - Ali Express is faster right? All these seem to come with really light switches so I would have to swap any of them but still using the very light and poppy switches on the Standard Rainy75, they just sound great on the keyboard. I bet some Morandi would really bring out the front shine through on those caps and probably deepen the stock keycaps as well. Currently typing on a Galaxy80 wired I put WS Heavy Tactiles in and some front shine through I'm reviewing and it sounds pretty amazing, especially for the price. I've only been in the hobby about 2 years now and it's crazy how far the budget boards have come in such a short time.
Will be testing the lemokey next month! And yeah that tracks for the shipping experience actually, even boat shipping has gotten super expensive, with other companies subsidizing the DHL costs
PA6 and PA66 are pretty common polymer compounds, more commonly known under their trade name Nylon. You may also see them referred to as Nylon-6 and Nylon-6/6.
The fully stuffed 65% with the PBT dye sub keycaps definitely wins the sound contest!
Ran into issues pairing the provided 2.4 GHZ USB receiver and wanted to share what my solution was.
Unplug USB reciever and place device back into pairing mode. Carry the keyboard with you next to the USB port (can be any temporary port) you're about to plug-in. Plug in the USB reciever with the keyboard as close as possible to it. Afterwards you can un-plug and plug into your preference USB port.
Hope this helps anyone else having a simiular issue.
I remember paying the same price for the Epomaker GK68 for the same price when it first came out. I would've called you crazy 3 years ago if you told me this was the same price.
Wow there are so many wireless 75%s now, back when I bought my ROG Azoth there was nothing quite as nice.
This begs the question, Hipyo pls do a "Best 75% Wireless Keyboard"!!
I prefer 75% because the footprint isn't all that much bigger than the 65% but you gain a lot of functionality
I like how you do actual genuine reviews on stuff and even if your sponsored you give your opinion, great job man
75%+. You can pry my F1-F12 keys from my cold dead hands
I thought epomaker didn't make any keyboards. Don't they just rebadge boards for the western market?
I've been loving videos more and more every second. For half a year now 😭
I prefer 100% because I work with a ton of numbers at my job. A keypad has always just felt faster and smoother.
But it seems since stumbling on your channel last year, not a lot of custom board companies care about 100%.
I almost bought the Gem after your recent video but haven’t yet because I didn’t see a 100% option. (Unless I’m just clueless and missed it lol)
NGL i love the default Keycaps on the Tide 65 but until we get an ISO version i will have to wait a few years probably :/
I started out with a 75%, but now I prefer 65%. At first I still wanted the option for F-keys, but since I use Mac for a home computer and windows for work, I just ended up never using them. The extra space on my desk makes it feel less crowded.
I play minecraft, so 75%. If i didnt I'd go smaller
The plastic sheet was basically tape modded to the back of the foam so that could be one reason the foam board was louder
75% all the way. I went from a tkl to the GMK67 and discovered I really can't manage without the F row. Only thing is I need a quiet keyboard as my computer is in the living room.
100% definitely. I use the numpad daily. Though I do have a couple separate numpads, so can get by with the 75%.
75% all the way and I have the tide 75 coming in. Idk how your affiliated links work so hopefully I did it right but I’ll keep you posted on how I like it…. Insert sad panda… it was suppose to arrive today but….. usps is slow and well looks like Monday delivery.
I can confirm no shipping cost it is covered and that is amazing.
update. it is here and omfg it os much nicer than i expected. Now the gasket mounting mihgt not be as good as someone like you who has a billion keyboards on me however i do have to say at least the black edition does have cvome flex in the typing experience and omg is this a game changer... THANK YOU HIPYO for all your reviews. One of tehse days I'll probably have enough money to buy keycaps from you.... I want the hipyo butt HAHA but first I might experiment with new keys before I go to keycaps idk. Only negative is the 2.4 is not working out the box. Not that I care too much about that as my primary use is gonna be wired anyways but, it is in my office/ lounge so there are times I do like to be wireless for the sake of controlling w.e is put on the big screen for the fam jam. (i have BT and other options but gonna see if i cannot troubleshoot the dongle and or reach out to epomaker if i cannot)
75% is the best and so happy to see these high quality budget options!
Have you heard of the Akko 7th Anniversary MOD 007 PC? It uses hall effect switches, but I feel like you'll like it more than the wooting.
Really wish there was some budget aluminum 80% keyboards 😭
80% sounds rare. Any chance you could build one for your budget instead of a prebuilt?
@@yahboijoz i didn't mean a prebuilt, just a kit. Also, 80% is just a TKL, so not that rare
@@salmonhippo9824 ohhh got it
mine just arrived and oh my god its so nice iv never had anything other than "gaming" mech keyboards
try the magegee star 75 please! I’m begging you
This keyboard seemed like “Ehh”, but I know its preference. Still a great review!!
I’m excited for the other reviews you have for this month!! Patiently waiting though lol
What’s your opinion on the epomaker aula 75?
not him but I LOVE IT
yeah it's amazing
trying it soon
@@HipyoTechyayyy
65%. I currently have 60% since about half a year and arrow keys are a must for me. My laptop has them pretty small which is uncomfortable, especially in cases where in some games even after changing keybinds, you still have to use arrows (like in TBoI).
As for F keys, I rarely use them and if I have to, at least they're normal lol
As someone who lives in the EU and uses ISO, it's really hard to find a
- low-profile
- wireless
- 75%
- iso
keyboard that (preferably) is similar to what the Logitech G915 TKL is, just in a better formfactor but with the similar great flat keys!
Even ANSI options make me sadge
I just bought this board this morning. It was between this and a few others. I think you just changed my mind somehow.
65% all the way, I drove a 60% for a while but the dedicated arrow keys really help. I am a coder so vim does most of my need here but when you are NOT in vim and dealing with all other programs not having the arrow keys under a layer is very nice. All I need is a dedicated delete key arrows and that's it. So 65% is the sweet spot, especially with QMK/VIA and the grave escape 😎
75% is easier to work with, but by the same logic, so is a full-size. You don't lose much, regarding space or functionality, going to 65% OR 75%. Currently, I'm running 75% with the Rainy75, but if when I go for my next keyboard, I see one that's 65% that I really like, I won't hesitate to switch over. It's not a big deal either way, for me.
man you don't really know how much I appreciate this video
like thank you bro I really needed this video
Ok waiting for bridge 75 cause of the ball catch mech on the opening and I'm quite sure that makes it better than the rainy haha
As someone who travels a lot i got a 65% and i dont miss the extra keys at all
75%. I've tried everything 65% and up. I haven't found a reason to try 60% or less. The 75% seems the most comfortable. I can't live without a numpad, which the Keychron numpad allows me to have a numpad/macropad and move it out of the way when I don't need it. And yes, I need my F keys.
75% at home. 65% at work (smaller desk). Is there anything in this kind of price range that is ISO? I like my Q1 pro but I am jealous of these fun case colours and wish there were more options. Hoping maybe I am just not aware of some other decent aluminium/metal case ISO options.
Just bought the epomaker f87 and i absolutely love it, especially for the 70 dollar price. I came from a keychron and needless to say i wont be going back anytime soon.
I have no idea how i ended up in keyboard TH-cam... however, I can confirm that I have now spent many hours watching Hipyo to decide on which keyboard i should buy as a starter!
When i searched for this video again a few videos down was the Epomaker EK75 how did we all miss this one as well. Has VIA support and only $89.
I hope they give us a barebone version of this board. This would be perfect for that. Also, I thought I need my F keys but I rarely use them so I think I'd be fine with layering them onto the number keys via VIA. I need to try a 65 first, since I only use 75 right now but I think it could actually be the better option for me.
Now here's a tricky question: Nordic layout TKL keyboard that is maximum 130€, which ones are the best? Oh and linear switches please.
I just got a 75% Rainy 75. After watching this video, I'm glad I was not tempted to return it despite there being an amazing deal on Amazon for the Tide75 right now. Great review, but I don't like the switches, I don't like the keycaps, and I don't like either color of case they offer. Meanwhile, the "white" standard Rainy75 looked exactly like what I wanted, and will probably be a bit less clacky.
The Rainy 75 sounds a LOT better out of the box. Also 75% all the way. I refuse to live without my F row
I really wish more companies did TKL format.
75% because it's still the same width, and ~2cm depth for more keys is worth it for me
I wanna believe 75% is the more popular choice. F keys are needed in so many things.
65%
I've tried every % of keyboard but this is the one I keep coming back to.
Finally!! They are listening QMK/VIA support. Time for everyone to follow. Way better value now!!
I had both, 65% and 75% and i really prefer the 75%. 75% is way better for the daily work and 65% doesn't give that much more space in gaming. 75% is the way better allrounder.
Finally, I can consider an Epomaker board now that they have VIA. 75% > 65% every single time.
I agree with your assessment. Epomaker does make better keyboards, in the sense that they feel better, type better and sound better than Keychron. However, I gotta mention my experience with both companies and their products. I've had Keychron now for about 4 years, and Epomaker for about 2 years. None of the Keychron keyboards ever needed fixing or ended up in the bin. The Epomaker ones, on the other hand, don't last as long. It's either battery or board failing. So, in terms of durability and reliability, for me, Keychron takes the cake here, hands down.
Are you going to review that black diamond 75 v2??
Nah, I liked the first version but the changes weren't significant enough to justify another vid!
@@HipyoTech ooooohh okay thank you for replying!!!
Have you seen ASUS Extreme line of PC peripherals they announced at Computex ? The Keyboard, while having some very -interesting- features costs $500 USD and the 47g full carbon mouse is $250
I don't hate the keycaps, I think it might be good for typing practice to have them blank, but have the legend tucked away from default glance.