@@vaughanb6299 You cant be a lol cow when your literally putting someones life at risk. Instead of Lolcow of the week they are fucking "Scumbags of the Decade"
You know Tree is pissed and serious when there is no edits, no music, no shitposting, just venting about what we are all feeling rn for this organization to do this to him. Prayers to Tua. 🥺
Every single Bengals fan, at least the ones who remember, had to be having flashbacks to Ryan Shazier. I immediately fear the worst when he locked up, and I can’t imagine what it would been like to be on that field and witnessing that. Prayers to you Tua.
I haven't looked into it this morning, but last night at the end of the game they announced that Tua would be discharged from the hospital and most likely fly back with the team. I don't know what's going on with him, but I hope they figure it out or he retires. Because I don't want to watch him die on the field.
Not as bad but the "hit" many theorize to have started AB's descent into madness also occurred in that stadium. Players just fucking die there evidently.
I’m a dolphins fan and I’m disgusted by my teams actions. He should have sat out this week, next week and probably even week 6 just in case. I hate to see my team suffer but the dolphins need to be made an example out of. This cannot happen again cause I’m genuinely so worried for him
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
Exactly, head injuries should be looked at even more, just because someone is cleared of concussion protocol, they could still have a concussion. Untested CTE can lead to players committing suicide, and it has in years past. Still mad respect to Luck for retiring because he was tired of the Colts crap organization
This injury just makes me feel sick inside. No idea why Tua was allowed to continue to play in the 2nd half of week 3 and with only 4 days of rest for week 4. The NFL has a lot of explaining to do with this investigation. Much love towards Tua. I hope him the best recovery so we can see him play some great football. Wonders happen when you have a coaching staff that actually believes in their own QB! Much Love all and keep safe out there
He went out there because his ego over took his common sense, he wanted to prove everyone is wrong and that he is fine. Trust me if he actually said he didn't want to go out there, he wouldn't.
Be it if it was an ego thing or not, he should not have been playing. The league is making a big deal about player safety and then THIS happens. The NFL and the Dolphins’ medical staff brought this upon themselves.
@@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD Regardless, it shouldn’t have even been an option for him to go out there. I don’t care whether he wants to play or not. Dolphins skirted the system and this could lead to severe permanent repercussions, at what point do we stop and realize this is still a human being with a life? Shameful.
@@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD that's why the medical professionals are paid more money than most of us make to hold the players accountable based upon their expertise (expertise that they know about and the players do not), and demand them not to play. There's no way he actually passed the concussion protocol last Sunday, and we will find out for sure. Of course the player is going to want to play and prove his critics wrong. But that isn't his final decision, nor should it be.
In High School I sustained a second concussion in a game and couldn't talk for hours, had to go to a trauma center, had to read with sunglasses to help against words blurring and had migraines for years, 3d movies still give me head pain but its gotten better, I really wish the best for Tua and while it's a hard road ahead I hope he can find a way back to a normal life and finds success somewhere else. The Dolphins should be beyond ashamed, from top to bottom, ashamed!
@@somedrunkdude5728 one concussion is a pretty common occurrence. In most combat sports, being knocked out (even just strong suspicion of a concussion) results in an immediate medical suspension by the athletic commission. Being knocked out a 2nd time after you return results in an even longer suspension. The reason for this is that brain trauma is cumulative and gets exponentially worse as it happens repeatedly in short periods of time. Tua was almost certainly still concussed going into the 2nd game and that's why the injury he sustained looked so scary from the outside. A first concussion just needs some time to recover, two bad ones within a week of each other is extremely, extremely dangerous.
@@inconnu4961 yeah, honestly in a lot of ways I'm better than ever. I dedicated everything to hockey and music afterwards. Had to recoverfrom a torn meniscus and dislocated hip years later and seemed possible cause I got right from this. I won a hockey championship as the starting Goalie last year(don't let anybody ever tell you that you can't get back up!). Currently I'm going to college for music and made the Jazz band on guitar, sometimes those scares give you appreciation and make you work harder than ever, keep your head up and keep getting back up and anything is possible!
not all concussions are the same. It's very likely Tua was lucid during the game and after. But likely does not remember a thing. People saying "if you have a concussion xyz definitely happens, it muddies the water.
LolCow of the decade if this is permanent Edit: LolCow is too polite for this level of ineptitude. Tua could be permanently crippled or paralyzed I don’t know what to call this, it makes me angry-and I’m not even a Dolphins fan, I root for the Pats. Bigger than football indeed
@@BackupPlans1 If he’s actually gone, what’s the historical parallel? I can think of only about three similar times this level of tragedy has occurred: Roy Chapman, JR Richard and Sean Taylor
I wouldn’t even call it a tough injury-this could have so easily been prevented; this wasn’t bad luck like Alex Smith’s leg, but a systematic failure to do the bare minimum
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
That isn't a tough injury. That's putting a concussion on a concussion, which is _extremely_ dangerous and potentially _fatal_ in certain situations. Serious head injuries have ended careers. This could end his career. And the medical staff of the Dolphins should be sued for not diagnosing this and forcing him to skip games.
As a fan of Cincinnati, I feel terrible for him and the situation he was put in. I just hope he can recover fully and be 100% the first time he returns.
He may never be 100% again. Two nasty concussions in 3-4 days' time isa great way to obtain lifelong neurological damage. Miami management is extremely careless and negligent with the health of their franchise QB.
It wasn’t matter what team you cheer for. As collective NFL fans, we wish him a speedy recovery and pray that there is no permanent damage. NFL is turning into a joke caring about issues like this
Prayers up for Tua. I’m genuinely considering a new team. As hard as it is I have so many memories with this team, but I’m not sure if I can do it morally. Really hope the dude is ok
The fact that the Dolphins were being so blaise about this infuriates me on a personal level. I played lacrosse in high school and I had a couple hits to the head but was never officially diagnosed with a concussion. About a year out of high school I started having seizures, and it turns out the injuries I’d sustained caused me to develop epilepsy. I’ll be on daily seizure meds for the rest of my life because of it. Head injuries are the worst and I pray Tua is lucky he doesn’t end up with life long consequences.
This is a good point, even if he seems ok tomorrow there could be long term life-changing complications All because the Dolphins were ok sacrificing their QB for one game
I had a teammate die from a whiplash back of the head injury, and seeing Tua like that broke my heart. There's plenty of blame duely being thrown, but by God all I can do is pray for him at this point. Please.
I feel so bad for this guy. I’ve been a fan of his since his ‘bama days. All the slander he got his rookie year is upsetting to me. Then right when he’s had the opportunity to really prove his worth and show the haters wrong with a great season start, boom concussion and then boom neck/neurological injury. This man cannot catch a break. I hope he can make a recovery and that no serious permanent damage occurred.
Make no mistake, the 2nd injury was a concussion as well. They won't admit it because of feare of backlash, but Tua got KTFO and his body went stiff. Miami's management sacrificed their franchise QB's future because they wanted to stay undefeated. Now they lost everything. Outrageously greedy and unforgiveable. Tua will NEVER be the same after two concussions inside a week.
@@crashstitches79 We are all lucky he wasn’t paralyzed or killed. Instead, he just has brain damage and possibly CTE because the Dolphins wanted to go 4-0….
@@crashstitches79 it’s 100% a concussion, I don’t know how anyone can look at someone going into a fencing response and not see that. I pray he sits out for 2-3 months tbh, he has no business being out on the field before then.
Not even a dolphin’s fan but I’ve gone through a major concussion before and it was one of the scariest moments of my life. Not ashamed to say I cried when this happened live.
@@chris40v17 No. No it’s not. He could’ve very well just watched a man die on TV from something he himself experienced. Get over ya self man you’re better than this.
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
@@warlordofbritannia No not at all. I dont think this is spinal at all. I'm sayin that just because we assume the force is all in the back of the brain (Posteriorly) doesnt mean there isnt damage in the front of the brain (usually where the personality is kept in the prefrontal cortex (Anteriorly)).
That was one of the scariest injuries I’ve ever seen. No way dude should have been out there and the complete body lockup is proof of that. Prayers up for Tua 🙏
you serious? its a game where things like Johnny Knox getting folded in half the wrong way happens and a fencing response is the scariest thing you've ever seen. Maybe im desensitized but it happens every week in ufc but common man
@@andriykorobov dude why does it matter so much to you how scary someone else thinks a certain injury is? Like how does their opinion affect you in any way? You're getting worked up over literally nothing lmao.
@@jonahrodriguez1101 Just an internet edgy guy trynna be edgy is all man. I’d say the sack in it of itself isn’t the scariest thing from the nfl, but the response Tua’s body had? Most definitely bone chilling to see in real time.
@@andriykorobov In all fairness that Johnny Knox injury happened awhile ago, This and Alex Smiths broken leg are probably the most gruesome in recent memory. I hope Tua is alright
When this happened live I just immedately started crying, I knew exactly what Tua was going through having been there myself. This was a strong contender for the scariest football moment I've ever watched live. Best wishes to Tua and his family.
From someone who’s taken some hard hits and had previous concussions, it hurts so much to watch this. I’m only 18, it’s been 3 years since my last *diagnosed* one and to this day my head never felt the same from playing through a concussion. Watching this play reactivates all the head pain I felt and it almost physically impossible to watch Tua body become that. This isn’t something you shake off, or rest with time, odds are he’s never going to be the same. I’m genuinely pissed that something this preventable ended up happening and if anything truly damaging happens to Tua he better take the whole Dolphins management with him.
Given LOTS of time he can recover, if you remember former pro Bowl QB Chris Miller of Atlanta he had a BUNCH of concussions, retired went back to hometown Eugene Oregon, which is not that big and he would get lost because of the brain damage in that small city, people would have to help him, it took years but he finally got better and is able to coach now.
Chiefs fan here Me too man. This is outrageous. My high school soccer team has better precautions than this Hope he gets better. For his personal everyday life’s sake
I just saw that he was injured at first, I thought “I hope it’s not too serious” Second thought: “Well this is good for the Pats” Third thought (after finding out what exactly happened): Oh my god… Fourth thought: Wtf the Dolphins! Fifth: Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looks Sixth: Oh, this is a tragedy… Literally went through the stages of grief
I was a major Tua fan at Alabama and it broke my heart when he got his hip Issue, he just started to look like himself again before this happened it’s really heartbreaking
When I saw him wobble last week, I thought it was that much more incredible that he had the wild performance he did. This week, he shouldn’t have been allowed to touch the field. I hope to God he is okay.
Bills fan here, rivalry aside, I really hope Tua is okay. Seeing that injury made my skin crawl. No one should EVER go through that. Prayers for him he’s a great player 🙏
@@waffle1474 Absolutely, no matter how much we rage against some people (looking at you Belichick) or if we make jokes, none of us wants to see someone get injured, specially like this.
Funny how when players decide to not play due to medical reasons they receive major backlash from the media calling them soft, but we tend to never held the medical staffs of these organizations responsibility by giving owners the green light that they are ready to go. Even when a player feels like they’re not near 100% to play
Remember when Derrick Rose torn his ACL in the NBA playoffs, He decided to take a year off to fully recover from his Knee injury. Despite his recovery his career was changed in an instant from being the youngest MVP in NBA history to being a journeyman, to role player.
All the best for Tua. Hope you get better, this was a downright outrageous move by everyone who threw him out yesterday and let him almost die out there.
I'm a bengals fan and was watching at home when that happened and IMMEDIATELY started praying for him cause even though he's an opponent he's still a human being trying to make a living. Thank God it's been confirmed that he's being discharged tonight and expected to travel home with the team!!
@@colliesis They're once again treating this like its nothing and that he's not hurt. I hope the team org gets fined big time, this is just negligence, especially since this is 2 games in a row and they had a short week between games.
Bungals fans know humility well (jokes aside, Viqueefs fan here so we know disappointment). I'm with you, man. No team loyalty, no bias of any kind. This isn't a stupid "you knew the risk" case. This was terrible and I hope culpability goes to the top. It won't though. ROGER GOODELL.
The fact that he was discharged only gives me even more pause. How in the hell do you not keep in the hospital overnight for observation after an injury like that? Is the NFL harassing hospitals to make sure their prize ponies get to strut their stuff, regardless of whether they drop dead?
From the static background music to the brevity of the video to signify the seriousness of this situation are the reasons I wait for the weekly uploads come football season. Keep on speaking out Tree, the football world needs to hear it
dolphins fan here. thank you for this tree. praying tua is ok, but if he never takes another snap, i will follow him and wish him peace and love and comfort where-ever he goes. anything to get him out of this hellhole of an organization who obviously doesnt care about him. hes so selfless, and hes got the heart of a champion, and he would stop at nothing to be there for those who need him. he's always thinking of everyone else, hes selfless to a fault. someone like that needs to be protected from themselves, bc they'll get themselves hurt trying to keep everyone else around them lifted if they arent. the dolphins didnt fucking protect him and i hope everyone involved gets sued, or jailtime, or both. a fucking disgrace
@@DonSMDT exactly. and this is worse, bc Luck just fell out of love with the game bc of how he was treated. Tua's life was in danger because of how he is being treated. like genuinely, i hope he recovers but if he decides to never play again or at least not with the dolphins, i will support that decision till the day i die
@@meowtumnluzz yeh I thought something was fishy about this situation Does the league NOT KNOW ABOUT SECOND IMPACT SYNDROME and yes this has DEADLY CONSEQUENCES I HOPE Tua can live a full life forget about FOOTBALL I want him to live
How quickly his upper body whipped into the turf was horrifying to watch, the poor guy was finally starting to hit his stride too, hope he's healthy and if he does leave the league, that he gets the respect and understanding that Luck deserved and that Fox or someone offers him a big chunk of change to be a TV personality
@@iankelly718 yep. That is simply due to the fact that his brain is violently slamming into the front and back of his helmet did the neurons in his body can't tell his body what to do anymore so it just seized up as he's being spun and his body is being torqued around. His body just shut down is basically what happened and it frozen place and then you see his fingers kind of go rigamortis. This is honestly one of the worst injuries and hits I think I've seen in a long, long, long time.
Absolutely livid. I don't know what else to say. Was watching the game last week with my dad and we were both shocked he came back out in THAT game. How they got an independent neurologist to approve his return is beyond me (stinks of a bribe of some sort, not sure what else it could be but there's no way in hell that stumbling right after hitting his head is a "back injury", backed up by actual doctors who have seen it). We were shocked, and the fact that this happened just days later doesn't shock me, but it does make me sick. Shame on you, Dolphins, get a damn grip.
Football hires yes men first, doctors second. We even saw this with Tua back in college. That first starting season was filled with him dealing with a leg injury that kept popping up in nearly every game. The doctor kept okaying him to the point where he was considered good to play Georgia even though he was hopping around on one leg before it even started. Not a one-off for Bama either. Jaylen Waddle broke his ankle and 79 days later was playing in the national championship with a noticeable limp.
It’s the same for anyone who has money. Rich people can legally get just about any drugs they want, because their doctors know that if they don’t just smile and nod the billionaire will simply move on to the next schmuck who will offer the least amount of resistance. Money changes people.
@@MST3Killa There is a lot of armchair doctors here and morons from other fanbases using this "fake outrage" for clicks and for their own convenience. They don't really give a shit about Tua at all
This injury completely changed my thoughts about the NFL as a whole. As much as I still have a passion for it I honestly don’t know if I’ll ever be able to watch it again without thinking about the problems it always turns a blind eye to. Hopefully this will be a wake up call to many more people as well.
When your body curls up and your hands turn into talons, that's neurological trauma... I really hope Tua is alright. Teams mean absolutely nothing here.
The Google search for answers sends you down the "Decorticate Posturing" rabbit hole for severe brain trauma. Hopefully Tua is fine and it wasn't as bad as it looked, but that seizing up was genuinely heartbreaking.
@@glenchapman3899 I know that sometimes that’s just a temporary resurgence, like someone who’s dying suddenly doing well before rapidly deteriorating Hopefully, Tua’s not hurt as bad as that looked. Either way-WTF Dolphins?!
that first concussion he got is so similar to one i got playing rugby at school, i felt fine after it, a bit sparked but nothing serious, felt like i could have done sport the next day. my coaches etc wouldnt let me play for another 2 weeks. i now thank them
Prayers up for Tua. You said this yourself at the end of last season. Stuff like this is why bad franchises stay bad. This is also coming from a Patriots fan.
Ye I feel like the jets/browns/lions just can't help but be mediocre to outright awful at football but the dolphins are different in the way they'll find success and look like a legit team for 4-12 weeks at a time and then just completely sabotage themselves with stuff that is so easily avoidable
I've had about six concussions before i turned 18 due to injuries i got playing sports. two of em professionally diagnosed, the other four weren't but had symptoms of a mild or moderate concussion. I used to be a Straight A student before those injuries, but as time went on my grades started slipping hard. It became difficult to focus, I'd get random dizzy spells, and around my mid-20's i started hearing voices in my head - that turned out to be OSDD, which is basically a less-severe form of multiple personality disorder. Whether that all came from the concussions or not I'll never know until I'm dead and the autopsy finds CTE in my brain, but it's well known that head injuries can seriously affect the brain in numerous ways. Being a child and getting those head injuries increases the risk for severe side effects later in life, but getting two or more concussions in a short time span also increases that risk. Basically, Tua is lucky if he isn't permanently affected by this stupid situation the Dolphins put him in unnecessarily. Wishing him the best, and I just pray to any god listening he doesn't end up with the same fate as Justin Strzelcyk. The players deserve better from their teams and the leagues they play in, and as fans who watch these players compete we deserve better from the teams and the leagues too.
Thank you for this, you are voicing the concerns most people are thinking, and it needed to be said with a platform like yours. I’m really worried about tua, one of the scariest injuries I’ve ever witnessed.
This league and this team literally did this in front of our very eyes. We all saw the first injury a few days ago and now this. Tua's situation is heartbreaking and sickening.
It gave me the same sinking stomach feeling as Anthoine Hubert's fatal crash at Spa-Francorchamps. Even before news came over you knew in your blood he was gone, and that a generational talent had just had their career cut short in the worst way possible. We accept as spectators that things can and will go wrong, but we also have a sense for when things go *too* wrong.
Same. I was listening to it on the radio but I must have not been listening hard enough because I was like "meh he'll be okay"... I literally burst into tears when I saw him locked up like that......
Was watching this game with my friends, and as soon as we saw the way his body locked up the entire room went silent…Prayers up for Tua, forget playing football I hope he can just get back to normal again 🙏🏾
I think this is a bigger loss for the league because Tua was looking like something special, he looked like he had finally figured it all out and that everything was finally clicking and now this i think who i feel worse about this all is Tua because you could just feel he was gonna have a different season then anything we'd seen before with him and then this happens and it just sucks for everyone involved.
Tree you come across a comical a-hole because that's your shtick. However when you say, "There's always more to life than football" your sincerity always comes across. You actually genuinely care about the players health and well being. Keep being a good dude Tree, I watch for content but it's your relatability is why I keep coming back.
I love shitting on things as much as the next man, but I'm not that ruthless. Maybe it's age that's softened me or just understanding and being exposed to the situations of players, current and former.
Ugh...As someone who got several concussions from football...One of those was from the same way he got one last week. That was by far the worst but to see him get 2 in consecutive weeks...I pray for this man!
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
And I am angry as well. Tua shouldn't have been playing this week nor should he have played the rest of the Bills game either. The NFL and the Dolphins have some explaining to do as to why he was allowed to play in this game.
Miami for sure. Only one Chargers affiliate doctor will be held liable for medical malpractice with Tyrod Taylor - the one who botched the treatment. On the other hand, the entire Dolphins organization is going to be liable for Tua.
The Dolphins have done a huge disservice to their fans, their players, the league and most importantly Tua himself. In an era where concussions and head injuries are such an important part of player safety, how on earth did they think this was a good idea? Did they think no one would notice and/or blame the wobbles on what could be perceived as a touch of heat exhaustion? AND THEN releasing him from the hospital, after smacking his head on the ground for the second time in 4 days, and having the shock response, and needing a stretcher to be taken off the field, and immediately going to the hospital. Unreal. I genuinely wish him a full recovery and some sort of action to be taken against those that let this happen to him.
Its a shame all around. Im glad you're making a video if it even does just a little bit to help light a fire for the situation at hand. I salute you UTree
As someone who went through a scarily similar situation in high school, I can not believe what has happened, if Tua was actually concussed from week three, he could have died last night from second impact syndrome. It's rare but its also relatively understudied and hard to determine because of how normal it is for people who are suspected of concussion to not be allowed to play. Not to mention all of the mental and neurological effects he might develop as a result of this. I was lucky and survived, but now live with the repercussions every day. I pray Tua is ok and that any party responsible is held accountable.
It’s so scary to see people lock up in that haunting fetal position looking pose after suffering brain damage. I’ve seen it first hand while playing and it’s something that sticks with you
When I saw that close-up of him, I thought he had just dislocated his middle finger. I learned a lot about neuro issues tonight. I hope the union raises holy hell and Tua says F this and walks away while he still can.
@@Dexter037S4 It wouldn’t be the IOC or USOC. Those are organizations that investigate the summer and winter Olympic games. If anybody investigates, it ought to be Congress.
I just feel so bad for tua and how the Miami dolphins treated him like nothing now. I really wanted tua to succeed this year as well. Now that tua is injured he may never play in the league again. The Miami dolphins are a terrible organization and don’t care about there players health, we saw that first hand last night. It’s just unacceptable. I hope tua gets better and is able to play again. Good luck tua best of wishes hope you get better soon
I am literally utter shocked as a Bills fan. We've been telling dolphins fans he needs to take a break it's not a back issue it's a literal concussion and he's now suffered for it by the organization and NFL's ineptitude of players safety. I am just utterly depressed and sadden to see Tua go down like this.
As a Dolphins fan, he shouldn’t have been out there in the second half on Sunday and sure as hell shouldn’t have been out there today. I’m disgusted that they let him.
@@jwsteelers1 commenters feel an overwhelming need to validate their stance by providing their team. It's one of the dumbest and yet most widespread phenomenon you'll ever see
@@RLAjabs LMAO you're absolutely right. It's like they want to be commended for caring about another human even though they don't play for their favorite team.
My favorite take on this whole thing is: "Oh, you armchair doctors don't know what is going on." Like, you don't need to be a doctor to know that Tua had a concussion on sunday. I found it insulting to my intelligence when the Dolphins and all of football media kept insisting it was a back injury.
I do hope for a speedy recovery, but my gut feels so bad about this. 2 massive heads hots in less then a week, plus a hospitalization. A potential MVP season ruined due to incompetence. Dolphins should be lol cow for every week he misses
i'd agree. but this situation just isnt even funny. tua missing any time should be greeted with some new title that speaks to how scummy the organization is
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
Patriots fan and I wholeheartedly agree with Urinatingtree here. Such a shame they pressured him to play and I hope it won't be season ending or career ending!
Prayers up for Tua 🙏🏻 While I'm no medical professional, there's no way Tua didn't have at least a minor concussion from the results of Sunday's game, especially with that whiplash to his head. Seeing that hit live was scary, and knowing what happened Sunday really calls into question how it was handled, and it certainly wasn't handled right. My boyfriend played football in high school and had his fair share of concussions and he still suffers severe side effects to this day, mostly his short-term memory but he has days he doesn't remember anything. The lasting effects are frightening, and if Tua decides to call it and leave the league I can't say I blame him, it's a damn shame how this was handled and this could've been avoided.
It was more than a minor concussion, he stood up on sunday and almost lost consciousness. This really is worst case scenario given the fact that it was to the back of the head twice
Okay, since we're not going to listen to or trust the people who actually examined him, those being medical professionals conducting tests necessary and approved by the NFL and NFLPA, then what would the 'right' way have been? How many weeks should a person sit out when the relevant medical personnel have cleared him? Just one week? What happens if he took head trauma when he returned in week 2? Would you say then it 'wasn't handled right'? And if he was forced to sit for a month... is that actually enough? Whole lot of people jumping onto the blame bandwagon without knowing much of anything at this point.
@@MST3Killa you don't have to be a doctor to see he wasn't ok. Stumbling and almost passing out after a concussion. There is no safe amount of time because there is no safe concussion. But there is an amount of time where you are less likely to suffer a subsequent brain injury. And a couple of days isn't that. Now he might never play football again. And he's lucky it isn't worse than that. This injury is purely the franchises fault. Your star player is showing clear signs of a brain injury yet you still allow him to play. They need to be the lesson for the league. You don't play a dude a couple days after a severe concussion.
@@MST3Killa You're one of the few people in this comments that isn't some armchair doctor or a fan of another team who displays thinly veiled concern for Tua [who they couldn't give two shits about] just to dunk on the Dolphins because it would help their teams
Dolphan here. His year and career are in jeopardy. He better not listen to NFL doctors and take his time coming back. I'm a big NASCAR fan too and Kurt Busch has been out since July with concussion protecals with no visible brain trauma like Tua had. So Tua, take your time to come back. Also, major props to Tree. Tell it like it is brother.
💯 agree. I majored in physical therapy and sports medicine. This was a head injury, period. I said it the last game! I screamed at the tv when’s I saw he returned to the game. This is a TBI in the making, if not already there. Praying for Tua. Shame on the Dolphins organization
I hope he pulls through and you’re absolutely right Tree. The Dolphins organization need to be held accountable and its doctors need their licenses to be terminated!!!
Look, I enjoy the channel. I enjoy the memes, the jokes, the laughs. This is none of of those things. Tua might never be the same again and the lack of transparency from the league and the Dolphins organization is disgusting. People need to lose their jobs for this. I'd say the Dolphins need to lose picks but maybe they might need those to draft another QB after the fucking ruined this one. Thank you for posting this, UT
I honestly hope he steps away. As a Dolphins fan, I don't care about the teams needs or interests after seeing how they handled his situation after the Bills game. Wishing you all the best Tua! Prayers and thoughts with you man!
Oh look, another fake "Dolphins" fan who's calling for Tua to retire. Funny how all these fans from other fanbases don't actually suggest anything to improve player safety, but only suggest something to give the team a competitive disadvantage. Its easier to just say the Dolphins are pieces of shit than blame that Bengals player for suplexing Tua, the NFL for having Thursday Night Football games for teams that just played on Sunday instead of having them for teams coming off a bye week [or just scrapping them altogether]
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 You have got to be kidding me. That was a perfectly clean tackle that just happened to have a hard impact. If Tua's head was really uninjured, this is probably the point where he suffers from a minor concussion and has to be walked off by the staff. Instead, he left in a stretcher. The reason people wonder if Tua will leave the sport is because there are things far more important than football. Being alive and well for your family is a priority that cannot be understated. The interest of player safety should trump any team interest, without question.
i hope he is able to function as close to normal as possible when he heals. its really unfortunate that the staff around him cleared him to play. absolutely atrocious medical staff and organization
God, seeing what happened is scary as hell. I pray he's okay and like Tree said, if he doesn't want to play in the NFL again I understand, and I would argue he should sue at least the Dolphins for negligence or whatever it would be
If two doctors including an independent doctor, Ryan Fitzpatrick who interviewed him [and who has been around him for two years], various teammates who voluntarily said he didn't show any concussion symptoms and even Tua himself said he didn't have a concussion, then what more can you do?
Have to say, this is probably the biggest reason why I've had a hard time getting into watching football for a few years now; a job that had me working Sunday afternoons for awhile and the Giants/Jets being awful helped, sure, but the fact the league knew and hid so much about concussions and clearly STILL isn't doing the right thing about an issue that's so obvious and so at risk of happening every damn snap when the linesmen run into each other makes it hard to want to invest myself. Something has to change, and change right away.
Reading SO MANY comments on this video by people who have life-long negative effects from playing a contact sport in HIGH SCHOOL really makes me feel ill. High school and college football have always been my preference, but it's hard to sort out the ethics of supporting something that you need to start doing young to excel at but can end up screwing up your life before you even hit adulthood.
You cannot Tell me he isn't done for the season or perhaps Tell me this isn't the end of his career my prayers are with tua and his family 🙏🏻 I'm expecting the dolphins organization to have hell to pay
He will indeed never be the same. Two occipital concussions inside a week, all because Miami's organization wanted to maintain a useless early-season undefeated record. Now they lost that and they sacrificed the career of their franchise QB. It's infuriating, and the wrong man suffered damages due to these decisions.
@@psycoman9544 It's also worth noting that the Dolphins organization itself seems to be free of suspicion for the time being, though obviously the NFLPA is still investigating. Still beyond pissed off that this had to happen. I'm so damn glad he seems to be okay, but I'm really worried for him at this point.
Pray for Tua Tagovailoa, this is beyond football. What the Miami Dolphins did was messed up and speaking from personal experience with multiple concussions the worst thing you can have happen is immediately suffer another concussion after having one
I was at the game, it was a very scary and somber moment in the night. What was an insanely hyped and energized atmosphere immediately died into respectful silence, chants of Tua's name, and cheers for him as he was taken off the field. No one there wanted to see that, and the NFL and doctor's that cleared him need to be investigated THOROUGHLY and INDEPENDENTLY.
Side note, I'm also glad I was at the game because the stadium media folks respectfully did not show a replay of it, which apparently was the opposite of Amazon's response playing it over and over again. I got on Twitter at half time to see if there was any updates on his condition and saw a replay of it. Once was enough for me. Can't imagine why they showed it so many times on TV
I'm a fairly old school, hard knocks football fan.... but even I felt unwell looking at Tua stumbling around in the aftermath of that hit, those could be lifechanging injuries- it's outrageous that he was allowed to pad up. Praying for a recovery for the poor guy.
Yeah. This ain't an old-school rules problem. Even in the 1950's, they aren't putting a guy in a cast and head bandages on the field. The Dolphins effectively did that here. Someone, somewhere, should have raised hell over this. Now, all we can hope is that this is the NFL's Black Sox.
Just a note for those watching: I didn't monetize this video. The ads you're seeing at the beginning of the video are the NFL auto-claiming the vid.
Gotta enrich the shield, right NFL? Cmon, man. NFL LOLCOW of the week.
^ Proving there ARE good Eagles fans out there.
@@IcyVegeta This week, miami's ignorant suits in the front office & the team doctors pushing for tua to play are the lolcows
@@vaughanb6299 You cant be a lol cow when your literally putting someones life at risk. Instead of Lolcow of the week they are fucking "Scumbags of the Decade"
Conglaturations NFL. You've learned NOTHING.
You know Tree is pissed and serious when there is no edits, no music, no shitposting, just venting about what we are all feeling rn for this organization to do this to him.
Prayers to Tua. 🥺
Not to mention that he published this in the middle of a game as well. And rightfully so.
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 couldn’t agree more
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 ong this needed to be said immediately
The NFL reviewed it and Tua wanted to play
-From a dolphins fan
@@theprophet9656 like what happened to Baker?
completely agreed
Yo highlight heavan whats good?
Sup highlight heaven
@@calebkent6706 you know "highlight heaven" don't care about you...just your views and subs...whatever gets him more money
@@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD Stfu Alex is great. Wish this wasn't under his comment so you know I'm not just saying this
@@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD you know we don’t give a fuck and we know.
Every single Bengals fan, at least the ones who remember, had to be having flashbacks to Ryan Shazier. I immediately fear the worst when he locked up, and I can’t imagine what it would been like to be on that field and witnessing that. Prayers to you Tua.
I haven't looked into it this morning, but last night at the end of the game they announced that Tua would be discharged from the hospital and most likely fly back with the team. I don't know what's going on with him, but I hope they figure it out or he retires. Because I don't want to watch him die on the field.
@@macrobov in the end, all the NFL care about is money and his face appearing on that field
Not as bad but the "hit" many theorize to have started AB's descent into madness also occurred in that stadium.
Players just fucking die there evidently.
Jus made me cry a lil
@@AnEruditeWolf
Yeah. I don’t blame AB for ragequitting. How did that happeb
I’m a dolphins fan and I’m disgusted by my teams actions. He should have sat out this week, next week and probably even week 6 just in case. I hate to see my team suffer but the dolphins need to be made an example out of. This cannot happen again cause I’m genuinely so worried for him
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
Someone needs to pay for this. This was disgusting. Both at the team and league level.
@@zeebaa6 it truly is, you can tell he shouldnt have been here from the way the last game went and the way he was playing today
The NFL "cares" about player safety the same way Hollywood "cares" about sexual harassment.
mmm he is an adult...
And now people will start to understand why Andrew Luck retired. CTE is no joke.
Exactly, head injuries should be looked at even more, just because someone is cleared of concussion protocol, they could still have a concussion. Untested CTE can lead to players committing suicide, and it has in years past. Still mad respect to Luck for retiring because he was tired of the Colts crap organization
This injury just makes me feel sick inside. No idea why Tua was allowed to continue to play in the 2nd half of week 3 and with only 4 days of rest for week 4. The NFL has a lot of explaining to do with this investigation. Much love towards Tua. I hope him the best recovery so we can see him play some great football. Wonders happen when you have a coaching staff that actually believes in their own QB! Much Love all and keep safe out there
He went out there because his ego over took his common sense, he wanted to prove everyone is wrong and that he is fine. Trust me if he actually said he didn't want to go out there, he wouldn't.
Be it if it was an ego thing or not, he should not have been playing. The league is making a big deal about player safety and then THIS happens. The NFL and the Dolphins’ medical staff brought this upon themselves.
@@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD Regardless, it shouldn’t have even been an option for him to go out there. I don’t care whether he wants to play or not. Dolphins skirted the system and this could lead to severe permanent repercussions, at what point do we stop and realize this is still a human being with a life? Shameful.
@@HOLY_SPIRIT_GOD that's why the medical professionals are paid more money than most of us make to hold the players accountable based upon their expertise (expertise that they know about and the players do not), and demand them not to play. There's no way he actually passed the concussion protocol last Sunday, and we will find out for sure. Of course the player is going to want to play and prove his critics wrong. But that isn't his final decision, nor should it be.
He was out there second half of week 3 because it was the only way they could actually beat buffalo. Thank the new regime in miami.
In High School I sustained a second concussion in a game and couldn't talk for hours, had to go to a trauma center, had to read with sunglasses to help against words blurring and had migraines for years, 3d movies still give me head pain but its gotten better, I really wish the best for Tua and while it's a hard road ahead I hope he can find a way back to a normal life and finds success somewhere else. The Dolphins should be beyond ashamed, from top to bottom, ashamed!
Wow dude, so sorry to hear about what you suffered! Would you say you are back to normal or even close to it?
I had a concussion in boxing. It's pretty scary.
@@somedrunkdude5728 one concussion is a pretty common occurrence. In most combat sports, being knocked out (even just strong suspicion of a concussion) results in an immediate medical suspension by the athletic commission. Being knocked out a 2nd time after you return results in an even longer suspension. The reason for this is that brain trauma is cumulative and gets exponentially worse as it happens repeatedly in short periods of time. Tua was almost certainly still concussed going into the 2nd game and that's why the injury he sustained looked so scary from the outside. A first concussion just needs some time to recover, two bad ones within a week of each other is extremely, extremely dangerous.
@@inconnu4961 yeah, honestly in a lot of ways I'm better than ever. I dedicated everything to hockey and music afterwards. Had to recoverfrom a torn meniscus and dislocated hip years later and seemed possible cause I got right from this. I won a hockey championship as the starting Goalie last year(don't let anybody ever tell you that you can't get back up!). Currently I'm going to college for music and made the Jazz band on guitar, sometimes those scares give you appreciation and make you work harder than ever, keep your head up and keep getting back up and anything is possible!
not all concussions are the same. It's very likely Tua was lucid during the game and after. But likely does not remember a thing. People saying "if you have a concussion xyz definitely happens, it muddies the water.
No matter what you think of him, please pray for Tua. This is bigger than football. 🙏
LolCow of the decade if this is permanent
Edit: LolCow is too polite for this level of ineptitude. Tua could be permanently crippled or paralyzed
I don’t know what to call this, it makes me angry-and I’m not even a Dolphins fan, I root for the Pats.
Bigger than football indeed
What's worse than lolcow, 'cus they're 💩 in my book!
This is too serious to be a lolcow.
@@BackupPlans1
If he’s actually gone, what’s the historical parallel? I can think of only about three similar times this level of tragedy has occurred: Roy Chapman, JR Richard and Sean Taylor
lolcow is for jokes. This is the lolcows fucking manure.
this is one of the toughest injuries i’ve seen in a while. i’m praying for him and i hope he gets a speedy recovery
I wouldn’t even call it a tough injury-this could have so easily been prevented; this wasn’t bad luck like Alex Smith’s leg, but a systematic failure to do the bare minimum
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
That isn't a tough injury. That's putting a concussion on a concussion, which is _extremely_ dangerous and potentially _fatal_ in certain situations. Serious head injuries have ended careers. This could end his career. And the medical staff of the Dolphins should be sued for not diagnosing this and forcing him to skip games.
Probably the worst one I've seen since Ryan Shazier's
@@TheEDFLegacy just ask Bryan Danielson and Katsuyori Shibata (I would mention Chris Benoit, but his case is horrifying)
As a fan of Cincinnati, I feel terrible for him and the situation he was put in. I just hope he can recover fully and be 100% the first time he returns.
You are right indeed, very unfortunate what happened.
@Nunya Bizness its very sad
Players need individual medical experts so they aren’t coerced into playing because the team ‘cleared’ them
He may never be 100% again. Two nasty concussions in 3-4 days' time isa great way to obtain lifelong neurological damage. Miami management is extremely careless and negligent with the health of their franchise QB.
I was impressed by how classy the Cincinnati fans were, the way they chanted Tua’s name as he got carted off the field.
It wasn’t matter what team you cheer for. As collective NFL fans, we wish him a speedy recovery and pray that there is no permanent damage. NFL is turning into a joke caring about issues like this
Prayers up for Tua. I’m genuinely considering a new team. As hard as it is I have so many memories with this team, but I’m not sure if I can do it morally. Really hope the dude is ok
Stick with your team through the up’s and the downs
Come to tampa, still in florida and not far from Miami.
It’s doubly tragic that he just had that breakthrough game.
If he never steps on the field again…this makes Andrew Luck’d career look fulfilling
@@corndog2022 Not if they're like putting people's lives on the line though. lmao
@@corndog2022 I agree, why you think I’m still a dolphins fan? This is just so morally scummy, I don’t know if I can root for this organization
The fact that the Dolphins were being so blaise about this infuriates me on a personal level.
I played lacrosse in high school and I had a couple hits to the head but was never officially diagnosed with a concussion. About a year out of high school I started having seizures, and it turns out the injuries I’d sustained caused me to develop epilepsy. I’ll be on daily seizure meds for the rest of my life because of it.
Head injuries are the worst and I pray Tua is lucky he doesn’t end up with life long consequences.
This is a good point, even if he seems ok tomorrow there could be long term life-changing complications
All because the Dolphins were ok sacrificing their QB for one game
Keto diet for epilepsy has shown promise. I believe it was part of a Ted Talk by Dom D’agostino. Good luck
@@oney1three please don't, lack of nutrients aren't worth it, do a balanced diet, these gurus need to shut the fuck up
Hope your okay, I’m a freshman quarterback and I am constantly worried about this.
I had a teammate die from a whiplash back of the head injury, and seeing Tua like that broke my heart. There's plenty of blame duely being thrown, but by God all I can do is pray for him at this point. Please.
I feel so bad for this guy. I’ve been a fan of his since his ‘bama days. All the slander he got his rookie year is upsetting to me. Then right when he’s had the opportunity to really prove his worth and show the haters wrong with a great season start, boom concussion and then boom neck/neurological injury. This man cannot catch a break. I hope he can make a recovery and that no serious permanent damage occurred.
Make no mistake, the 2nd injury was a concussion as well. They won't admit it because of feare of backlash, but Tua got KTFO and his body went stiff. Miami's management sacrificed their franchise QB's future because they wanted to stay undefeated. Now they lost everything. Outrageously greedy and unforgiveable. Tua will NEVER be the same after two concussions inside a week.
@@crashstitches79
We are all lucky he wasn’t paralyzed or killed. Instead, he just has brain damage and possibly CTE because the Dolphins wanted to go 4-0….
@@crashstitches79 it’s 100% a concussion, I don’t know how anyone can look at someone going into a fencing response and not see that. I pray he sits out for 2-3 months tbh, he has no business being out on the field before then.
Not even a dolphin’s fan but I’ve gone through a major concussion before and it was one of the scariest moments of my life. Not ashamed to say I cried when this happened live.
Ok that’s a lil extra..
I thought he was going to die. It was eerily reminiscent of accounts of how RoyChapman died
@@chris40v17 No. No it’s not. He could’ve very well just watched a man die on TV from something he himself experienced. Get over ya self man you’re better than this.
really feel bad for him, hope he gets better
I hope they throw the book at ownership. Stick to Real Estate, Stephen M. Ross.
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
@@RandomRabbit007
Wait, are you saying this could be worse, like a spinal injury?
@@warlordofbritannia No not at all. I dont think this is spinal at all. I'm sayin that just because we assume the force is all in the back of the brain (Posteriorly) doesnt mean there isnt damage in the front of the brain (usually where the personality is kept in the prefrontal cortex (Anteriorly)).
@@RandomRabbit007 so basically, we know he’s screwed, but it’s possible he’s even more screwed
That was one of the scariest injuries I’ve ever seen. No way dude should have been out there and the complete body lockup is proof of that. Prayers up for Tua 🙏
you serious? its a game where things like Johnny Knox getting folded in half the wrong way happens and a fencing response is the scariest thing you've ever seen. Maybe im desensitized but it happens every week in ufc but common man
@@andriykorobov dude why does it matter so much to you how scary someone else thinks a certain injury is? Like how does their opinion affect you in any way? You're getting worked up over literally nothing lmao.
@@jonahrodriguez1101 Just an internet edgy guy trynna be edgy is all man. I’d say the sack in it of itself isn’t the scariest thing from the nfl, but the response Tua’s body had? Most definitely bone chilling to see in real time.
@@andriykorobov wow you’re so tough I bet you get all the bitches 🤨
@@andriykorobov In all fairness that Johnny Knox injury happened awhile ago, This and Alex Smiths broken leg are probably the most gruesome in recent memory. I hope Tua is alright
When this happened live I just immedately started crying, I knew exactly what Tua was going through having been there myself. This was a strong contender for the scariest football moment I've ever watched live. Best wishes to Tua and his family.
Lol, you cried
From someone who’s taken some hard hits and had previous concussions, it hurts so much to watch this. I’m only 18, it’s been 3 years since my last *diagnosed* one and to this day my head never felt the same from playing through a concussion. Watching this play reactivates all the head pain I felt and it almost physically impossible to watch Tua body become that.
This isn’t something you shake off, or rest with time, odds are he’s never going to be the same. I’m genuinely pissed that something this preventable ended up happening and if anything truly damaging happens to Tua he better take the whole Dolphins management with him.
I got a few but none of them were as bad as the one to the back of the head...seeing him posturing like that is gut wrenching!
Given LOTS of time he can recover, if you remember former pro Bowl QB Chris Miller of Atlanta he had a BUNCH of concussions, retired went back to hometown Eugene Oregon, which is not that big and he would get lost because of the brain damage in that small city, people would have to help him, it took years but he finally got better and is able to coach now.
Bills fan here.
Praying for Tua. No one should ever have to go through that.
Chiefs fan here
Me too man. This is outrageous. My high school soccer team has better precautions than this
Hope he gets better. For his personal everyday life’s sake
I just saw that he was injured at first, I thought “I hope it’s not too serious”
Second thought: “Well this is good for the Pats”
Third thought (after finding out what exactly happened): Oh my god…
Fourth thought: Wtf the Dolphins!
Fifth: Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looks
Sixth: Oh, this is a tragedy…
Literally went through the stages of grief
Jags fan.... same feelings.... fuck the fish for the way they handled Tua. I'm now rooting against them every game for the rest of the season.
@@chrisdietrich8944
He could be permanently crippled, like wtf Dolphins!
Ravens fan hope tua feel good’s
I was a major Tua fan at Alabama and it broke my heart when he got his hip
Issue, he just started to look like himself again before this happened it’s really heartbreaking
Not really. He is the most injury prone player.
@@chadwilliams9141 he was 3-0 casual
I completely forgot about the hip injury. He really has had terrible luck with injuries.
When I saw him wobble last week, I thought it was that much more incredible that he had the wild performance he did. This week, he shouldn’t have been allowed to touch the field. I hope to God he is okay.
Life is bigger than the sport. Hope organizations take note of this after seeing this injury and the backlash to come. Please get well Tua.
Here's the problem. They only are obsessed with money
Bills fan here, rivalry aside, I really hope Tua is okay. Seeing that injury made my skin crawl. No one should EVER go through that. Prayers for him he’s a great player 🙏
Fellow Bills fan here, couldn't have said it better myself. All the best, Mr. Tagovailoa 🙏
Pats fan here and I agree. Hoping he gets better soon.
@@waffle1474 Absolutely, no matter how much we rage against some people (looking at you Belichick) or if we make jokes, none of us wants to see someone get injured, specially like this.
@@TheRatedOniChannel couldn't agree more
Perfectly said
Funny how when players decide to not play due to medical reasons they receive major backlash from the media calling them soft, but we tend to never held the medical staffs of these organizations responsibility by giving owners the green light that they are ready to go. Even when a player feels like they’re not near 100% to play
Remember when Derrick Rose torn his ACL in the NBA playoffs, He decided to take a year off to fully recover from his Knee injury. Despite his recovery his career was changed in an instant from being the youngest MVP in NBA history to being a journeyman, to role player.
All the best for Tua. Hope you get better, this was a downright outrageous move by everyone who threw him out yesterday and let him almost die out there.
Josh Allen speaking facts
And now he's in the MVP race
I'm a bengals fan and was watching at home when that happened and IMMEDIATELY started praying for him cause even though he's an opponent he's still a human being trying to make a living. Thank God it's been confirmed that he's being discharged tonight and expected to travel home with the team!!
same here
He shouldn’t even be travelling after a concussion that bad. he should be in observation for at least the full day in case of seizures.
@@colliesis They're once again treating this like its nothing and that he's not hurt. I hope the team org gets fined big time, this is just negligence, especially since this is 2 games in a row and they had a short week between games.
Bungals fans know humility well (jokes aside, Viqueefs fan here so we know disappointment). I'm with you, man. No team loyalty, no bias of any kind. This isn't a stupid "you knew the risk" case. This was terrible and I hope culpability goes to the top. It won't though. ROGER GOODELL.
The fact that he was discharged only gives me even more pause. How in the hell do you not keep in the hospital overnight for observation after an injury like that? Is the NFL harassing hospitals to make sure their prize ponies get to strut their stuff, regardless of whether they drop dead?
As soon as I saw that injury I knew tree was marching right to the microphone to vent his disgust.
I've never been this scared for an athlete before. I hope that dude is OK. prayers up from Who Dat nation.
From the static background music to the brevity of the video to signify the seriousness of this situation are the reasons I wait for the weekly uploads come football season. Keep on speaking out Tree, the football world needs to hear it
well said
dolphins fan here. thank you for this tree. praying tua is ok, but if he never takes another snap, i will follow him and wish him peace and love and comfort where-ever he goes. anything to get him out of this hellhole of an organization who obviously doesnt care about him. hes so selfless, and hes got the heart of a champion, and he would stop at nothing to be there for those who need him. he's always thinking of everyone else, hes selfless to a fault. someone like that needs to be protected from themselves, bc they'll get themselves hurt trying to keep everyone else around them lifted if they arent. the dolphins didnt fucking protect him and i hope everyone involved gets sued, or jailtime, or both. a fucking disgrace
I mean its not injury-related i dont think but I mean the colts are *still* reeling from fucking up the Andrew Luck situation
@@DonSMDT exactly. and this is worse, bc Luck just fell out of love with the game bc of how he was treated. Tua's life was in danger because of how he is being treated. like genuinely, i hope he recovers but if he decides to never play again or at least not with the dolphins, i will support that decision till the day i die
@@meowtumnluzz yeh I thought something was fishy about this situation
Does the league NOT KNOW ABOUT SECOND IMPACT SYNDROME
and yes this has DEADLY CONSEQUENCES
I HOPE Tua can live a full life forget about FOOTBALL I want him to live
If I was in Tua's family, I'd be doing anything and everything humanly possible to get him the fuck out of Miami
How quickly his upper body whipped into the turf was horrifying to watch, the poor guy was finally starting to hit his stride too, hope he's healthy and if he does leave the league, that he gets the respect and understanding that Luck deserved and that Fox or someone offers him a big chunk of change to be a TV personality
It almost looks like his body seized up as he got whipped around.
@@iankelly718 yep. That is simply due to the fact that his brain is violently slamming into the front and back of his helmet did the neurons in his body can't tell his body what to do anymore so it just seized up as he's being spun and his body is being torqued around. His body just shut down is basically what happened and it frozen place and then you see his fingers kind of go rigamortis. This is honestly one of the worst injuries and hits I think I've seen in a long, long, long time.
Absolutely livid. I don't know what else to say. Was watching the game last week with my dad and we were both shocked he came back out in THAT game. How they got an independent neurologist to approve his return is beyond me (stinks of a bribe of some sort, not sure what else it could be but there's no way in hell that stumbling right after hitting his head is a "back injury", backed up by actual doctors who have seen it). We were shocked, and the fact that this happened just days later doesn't shock me, but it does make me sick. Shame on you, Dolphins, get a damn grip.
oh, actual doctors who didn't examine him and just saw it on TV, you mean?
Football hires yes men first, doctors second.
We even saw this with Tua back in college.
That first starting season was filled with him dealing with a leg injury that kept popping up in nearly every game. The doctor kept okaying him to the point where he was considered good to play Georgia even though he was hopping around on one leg before it even started.
Not a one-off for Bama either. Jaylen Waddle broke his ankle and 79 days later was playing in the national championship with a noticeable limp.
It’s the same for anyone who has money. Rich people can legally get just about any drugs they want, because their doctors know that if they don’t just smile and nod the billionaire will simply move on to the next schmuck who will offer the least amount of resistance. Money changes people.
@@smelma sure buddy. Whatever you say.
@@MST3Killa There is a lot of armchair doctors here and morons from other fanbases using this "fake outrage" for clicks and for their own convenience. They don't really give a shit about Tua at all
This injury completely changed my thoughts about the NFL as a whole. As much as I still have a passion for it I honestly don’t know if I’ll ever be able to watch it again without thinking about the problems it always turns a blind eye to. Hopefully this will be a wake up call to many more people as well.
When your body curls up and your hands turn into talons, that's neurological trauma... I really hope Tua is alright. Teams mean absolutely nothing here.
The Google search for answers sends you down the "Decorticate Posturing" rabbit hole for severe brain trauma. Hopefully Tua is fine and it wasn't as bad as it looked, but that seizing up was genuinely heartbreaking.
Well the last report said he was lucid and had movement in his hands and feet. So lets hope!!!!!
@@glenchapman3899
I know that sometimes that’s just a temporary resurgence, like someone who’s dying suddenly doing well before rapidly deteriorating
Hopefully, Tua’s not hurt as bad as that looked. Either way-WTF Dolphins?!
@@warlordofbritannia he’s on track to be discharged soon and he’s gonna make it back home on the team plane
@@ryanmclaughlin9041
Ah good…unless it’s the Dolphins staff saying that
I wouldn’t trust them anymore, especially on Tua
@@ryanmclaughlin9041 That doesn’t mean anything
that first concussion he got is so similar to one i got playing rugby at school, i felt fine after it, a bit sparked but nothing serious, felt like i could have done sport the next day. my coaches etc wouldnt let me play for another 2 weeks. i now thank them
Unfortunately, this wasn’t the scariest thing to happen in football this season
it's sad seeing him come all the way from his collage years only for it to come to this....
Prayers for Tua 🙏
Prayers up for Tua.
You said this yourself at the end of last season. Stuff like this is why bad franchises stay bad.
This is also coming from a Patriots fan.
Ye I feel like the jets/browns/lions just can't help but be mediocre to outright awful at football but the dolphins are different in the way they'll find success and look like a legit team for 4-12 weeks at a time and then just completely sabotage themselves with stuff that is so easily avoidable
After what the MIA owners did with telling Flores to throw games, they should be banned from the NFL for life.
I've had about six concussions before i turned 18 due to injuries i got playing sports. two of em professionally diagnosed, the other four weren't but had symptoms of a mild or moderate concussion. I used to be a Straight A student before those injuries, but as time went on my grades started slipping hard. It became difficult to focus, I'd get random dizzy spells, and around my mid-20's i started hearing voices in my head - that turned out to be OSDD, which is basically a less-severe form of multiple personality disorder. Whether that all came from the concussions or not I'll never know until I'm dead and the autopsy finds CTE in my brain, but it's well known that head injuries can seriously affect the brain in numerous ways. Being a child and getting those head injuries increases the risk for severe side effects later in life, but getting two or more concussions in a short time span also increases that risk.
Basically, Tua is lucky if he isn't permanently affected by this stupid situation the Dolphins put him in unnecessarily. Wishing him the best, and I just pray to any god listening he doesn't end up with the same fate as Justin Strzelcyk. The players deserve better from their teams and the leagues they play in, and as fans who watch these players compete we deserve better from the teams and the leagues too.
Thank you for this, you are voicing the concerns most people are thinking, and it needed to be said with a platform like yours. I’m really worried about tua, one of the scariest injuries I’ve ever witnessed.
This league and this team literally did this in front of our very eyes. We all saw the first injury a few days ago and now this. Tua's situation is heartbreaking and sickening.
It gave me the same sinking stomach feeling as Anthoine Hubert's fatal crash at Spa-Francorchamps. Even before news came over you knew in your blood he was gone, and that a generational talent had just had their career cut short in the worst way possible. We accept as spectators that things can and will go wrong, but we also have a sense for when things go *too* wrong.
Even as a Bills fan my prayers are with Tua.
No one should have to go through that injury. Also my thoughts are with his family, teammates and fans
Same. I was listening to it on the radio but I must have not been listening hard enough because I was like "meh he'll be okay"... I literally burst into tears when I saw him locked up like that......
Was watching this game with my friends, and as soon as we saw the way his body locked up the entire room went silent…Prayers up for Tua, forget playing football I hope he can just get back to normal again 🙏🏾
Revisiting this today just makes the events that led to this video even worse.
I think this is a bigger loss for the league because Tua was looking like something special, he looked like he had finally figured it all out and that everything was finally clicking and now this i think who i feel worse about this all is Tua because you could just feel he was gonna have a different season then anything we'd seen before with him and then this happens and it just sucks for everyone involved.
Tree you come across a comical a-hole because that's your shtick. However when you say, "There's always more to life than football" your sincerity always comes across. You actually genuinely care about the players health and well being. Keep being a good dude Tree, I watch for content but it's your relatability is why I keep coming back.
I love shitting on things as much as the next man, but I'm not that ruthless. Maybe it's age that's softened me or just understanding and being exposed to the situations of players, current and former.
@@UrinatingTree just please be gentle after thr Steelers kill my Jets
@@J0hnRatcliffe that's a skull and a half man, good luck this week
you're gonna need it
@@UrinatingTree yeah, at least you aren’t like the main meme accounts on instagram rn 😒
Ugh...As someone who got several concussions from football...One of those was from the same way he got one last week. That was by far the worst but to see him get 2 in consecutive weeks...I pray for this man!
😭 that was tough to watch...thank-you, Tree, for putting out there what a LOT of people feel. All the best to Tua.
Honestly just thoughts and prayers to Tua
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
Prayers up for Tua indeed.
And Tree, I genuinely felt the anger in your voice on this one.
He honestly sounded pretty reserved imo, but that just shows exactly how angry he truly is. You can feel the emotion behind what he said
And I am angry as well. Tua shouldn't have been playing this week nor should he have played the rest of the Bills game either. The NFL and the Dolphins have some explaining to do as to why he was allowed to play in this game.
Praying that Tua is okay and wish him a speedy recovery.
By any means necessary this needs to be seen over a million times , this has to go viral.. the message is too strong with this one
The real question is who has the worst medical team the Chargers or the dolphins
Yes
It’s the Colts.
I would've said the Commies or the Browns
Miami for sure.
Only one Chargers affiliate doctor will be held liable for medical malpractice with Tyrod Taylor - the one who botched the treatment. On the other hand, the entire Dolphins organization is going to be liable for Tua.
It's probably still the browns they had staph infections that were so bad it ruined players careers
Honestly this injury was one of the hardest one i've had to watch in a while
The Dolphins have done a huge disservice to their fans, their players, the league and most importantly Tua himself. In an era where concussions and head injuries are such an important part of player safety, how on earth did they think this was a good idea? Did they think no one would notice and/or blame the wobbles on what could be perceived as a touch of heat exhaustion?
AND THEN releasing him from the hospital, after smacking his head on the ground for the second time in 4 days, and having the shock response, and needing a stretcher to be taken off the field, and immediately going to the hospital. Unreal. I genuinely wish him a full recovery and some sort of action to be taken against those that let this happen to him.
Sad as it could also lead to a career ending injury, he has amazing potential and this is heartbreaking
Just have to hope that his life hasn't been forever negatively impacted by this
that was absolutely gut-wrenching to witness...prayers for him and his family.
Its a shame all around. Im glad you're making a video if it even does just a little bit to help light a fire for the situation at hand. I salute you UTree
As someone who went through a scarily similar situation in high school, I can not believe what has happened, if Tua was actually concussed from week three, he could have died last night from second impact syndrome. It's rare but its also relatively understudied and hard to determine because of how normal it is for people who are suspected of concussion to not be allowed to play. Not to mention all of the mental and neurological effects he might develop as a result of this. I was lucky and survived, but now live with the repercussions every day. I pray Tua is ok and that any party responsible is held accountable.
Tuas career might become one of the biggest what ifs of this decade and maybe the century depending on how he recovers
I just hope he can just get back and this doesn't end his career cause that would suck
Pat Kirwan said it best on NFL Radio. The Dolphins needed someone to tell Tua "you're not playing this one".
That's all it would've taken.
It’s so scary to see people lock up in that haunting fetal position looking pose after suffering brain damage. I’ve seen it first hand while playing and it’s something that sticks with you
When I saw that close-up of him, I thought he had just dislocated his middle finger. I learned a lot about neuro issues tonight. I hope the union raises holy hell and Tua says F this and walks away while he still can.
Tree is a Armchair doctor and doesn't know a damn thing about Neurological issues. If it was up to him, nobody would be playing in the NFL
Thank you Tree for making this. Your anger is our voice. The NFL should be investigated completely for this.
And not by themselves this time
If they cover up and Tua’s severely injured…
I'm calling on an IOC investigation or whoever the biggest sports body is, shut down the NFL if needed
@@Dexter037S4 It wouldn’t be the IOC or USOC. Those are organizations that investigate the summer and winter Olympic games. If anybody investigates, it ought to be Congress.
@@a.grimes4202 Since the NFL is technically considered an "Occupation" it should be OSHA.
I just feel so bad for tua and how the Miami dolphins treated him like nothing now. I really wanted tua to succeed this year as well. Now that tua is injured he may never play in the league again. The Miami dolphins are a terrible organization and don’t care about there players health, we saw that first hand last night. It’s just unacceptable. I hope tua gets better and is able to play again. Good luck tua best of wishes hope you get better soon
I'm glad you mentioned the fencing response, my dad made that theory and always talks about it when he sees it
I am literally utter shocked as a Bills fan. We've been telling dolphins fans he needs to take a break it's not a back issue it's a literal concussion and he's now suffered for it by the organization and NFL's ineptitude of players safety. I am just utterly depressed and sadden to see Tua go down like this.
As a Dolphins fan, he shouldn’t have been out there in the second half on Sunday and sure as hell shouldn’t have been out there today. I’m disgusted that they let him.
As a Steelers fan, seeing him lock up like that gave me chills of dread. I'm praying he doesn't suffer permanent damage
its very scary, i see how you guys felt with Ryan Shazier now. prayers up for tua i honestly hope he'll recover
What does being a Steelers fan have to do with this?
@@jwsteelers1 commenters feel an overwhelming need to validate their stance by providing their team. It's one of the dumbest and yet most widespread phenomenon you'll ever see
@@RLAjabs LMAO you're absolutely right. It's like they want to be commended for caring about another human even though they don't play for their favorite team.
@@jwsteelers1 I always cringe when I see it.
I’ve been through several TBIs and brain surgeries… it’s not a joke to say this man is lucky to be alive
My favorite take on this whole thing is:
"Oh, you armchair doctors don't know what is going on."
Like, you don't need to be a doctor to know that Tua had a concussion on sunday. I found it insulting to my intelligence when the Dolphins and all of football media kept insisting it was a back injury.
So sad man. Prayers up for Tua
I have so much respect for him.
Congrats Miami, you singlehandedly created possibly the next AB.
Yo thats one of the hardest things to watch get well Tua holy freaken crap
Bless you Tree, this is an inexcusable horror.
I do hope for a speedy recovery, but my gut feels so bad about this. 2 massive heads hots in less then a week, plus a hospitalization. A potential MVP season ruined due to incompetence.
Dolphins should be lol cow for every week he misses
Urinatingtree, this is the one right here
Starting this week.
i'd agree. but this situation just isnt even funny. tua missing any time should be greeted with some new title that speaks to how scummy the organization is
the whole NFL is a lolcow. Player safety only applies to their franchise quarterbacks like Pretty Boy Brady and it makes me sick!
Look up "contrecoup injury"- Its not even necessarily the back of the brain taking the damage (it could include the front of the brain because of the shifting the brain does while it sits in liquid) - graduated Medical School but changed professions into Economics
TBI survivor here tree, fucking angry as all hell watching this unfold over the last week. Thank you for putting this out here.
Patriots fan and I wholeheartedly agree with Urinatingtree here. Such a shame they pressured him to play and I hope it won't be season ending or career ending!
Prayers up for Tua 🙏🏻
While I'm no medical professional, there's no way Tua didn't have at least a minor concussion from the results of Sunday's game, especially with that whiplash to his head. Seeing that hit live was scary, and knowing what happened Sunday really calls into question how it was handled, and it certainly wasn't handled right. My boyfriend played football in high school and had his fair share of concussions and he still suffers severe side effects to this day, mostly his short-term memory but he has days he doesn't remember anything. The lasting effects are frightening, and if Tua decides to call it and leave the league I can't say I blame him, it's a damn shame how this was handled and this could've been avoided.
It was more than a minor concussion, he stood up on sunday and almost lost consciousness. This really is worst case scenario given the fact that it was to the back of the head twice
Okay, since we're not going to listen to or trust the people who actually examined him, those being medical professionals conducting tests necessary and approved by the NFL and NFLPA, then what would the 'right' way have been?
How many weeks should a person sit out when the relevant medical personnel have cleared him? Just one week? What happens if he took head trauma when he returned in week 2? Would you say then it 'wasn't handled right'? And if he was forced to sit for a month... is that actually enough?
Whole lot of people jumping onto the blame bandwagon without knowing much of anything at this point.
@@MST3Killa you don't have to be a doctor to see he wasn't ok. Stumbling and almost passing out after a concussion. There is no safe amount of time because there is no safe concussion. But there is an amount of time where you are less likely to suffer a subsequent brain injury. And a couple of days isn't that.
Now he might never play football again. And he's lucky it isn't worse than that. This injury is purely the franchises fault. Your star player is showing clear signs of a brain injury yet you still allow him to play. They need to be the lesson for the league. You don't play a dude a couple days after a severe concussion.
@@MST3Killa You're one of the few people in this comments that isn't some armchair doctor or a fan of another team who displays thinly veiled concern for Tua [who they couldn't give two shits about] just to dunk on the Dolphins because it would help their teams
Dolphan here. His year and career are in jeopardy. He better not listen to NFL doctors and take his time coming back.
I'm a big NASCAR fan too and Kurt Busch has been out since July with concussion protecals with no visible brain trauma like Tua had. So Tua, take your time to come back.
Also, major props to Tree. Tell it like it is brother.
It's not looking good for Kurt or Tua, they're gonna have seizure issues for the rest of their lives sadly.
I didn’t see the stumble live but after seeing it tonight I’m in absolute shock.
Literally the same anger I'm feeling right now. Well put, sir.
💯 agree. I majored in physical therapy and sports medicine. This was a head injury, period. I said it the last game! I screamed at the tv when’s I saw he returned to the game. This is a TBI in the making, if not already there. Praying for Tua. Shame on the Dolphins organization
Shame on the NFLPA for approving the protocol applied by the NFL and medical professionals. How dare they!
@@MST3Killa they didn't allow the protocol to be put into effect. "Back and ankle issue"
@@animelytical8354 fslse
I hope he pulls through and you’re absolutely right Tree. The Dolphins organization need to be held accountable and its doctors need their licenses to be terminated!!!
Look, I enjoy the channel. I enjoy the memes, the jokes, the laughs.
This is none of of those things. Tua might never be the same again and the lack of transparency from the league and the Dolphins organization is disgusting. People need to lose their jobs for this. I'd say the Dolphins need to lose picks but maybe they might need those to draft another QB after the fucking ruined this one.
Thank you for posting this, UT
Sorry, we already gave up a 1st and 3rd for trying to land Brady and Sean Payton who were under contract. Try something else.
I honestly hope he steps away. As a Dolphins fan, I don't care about the teams needs or interests after seeing how they handled his situation after the Bills game. Wishing you all the best Tua! Prayers and thoughts with you man!
Oh look, another fake "Dolphins" fan who's calling for Tua to retire. Funny how all these fans from other fanbases don't actually suggest anything to improve player safety, but only suggest something to give the team a competitive disadvantage. Its easier to just say the Dolphins are pieces of shit than blame that Bengals player for suplexing Tua, the NFL for having Thursday Night Football games for teams that just played on Sunday instead of having them for teams coming off a bye week [or just scrapping them altogether]
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 You have got to be kidding me. That was a perfectly clean tackle that just happened to have a hard impact.
If Tua's head was really uninjured, this is probably the point where he suffers from a minor concussion and has to be walked off by the staff. Instead, he left in a stretcher.
The reason people wonder if Tua will leave the sport is because there are things far more important than football. Being alive and well for your family is a priority that cannot be understated. The interest of player safety should trump any team interest, without question.
i hope he is able to function as close to normal as possible when he heals. its really unfortunate that the staff around him cleared him to play. absolutely atrocious medical staff and organization
And this kind of negligence is how bad franchises stay bad
God, seeing what happened is scary as hell. I pray he's okay and like Tree said, if he doesn't want to play in the NFL again I understand, and I would argue he should sue at least the Dolphins for negligence or whatever it would be
I’d go even further and say gross negligence
If two doctors including an independent doctor, Ryan Fitzpatrick who interviewed him [and who has been around him for two years], various teammates who voluntarily said he didn't show any concussion symptoms and even Tua himself said he didn't have a concussion, then what more can you do?
I'm thankful for Tree telling it like it is. It is an absolute shame. Prayers for Tua.
Have to say, this is probably the biggest reason why I've had a hard time getting into watching football for a few years now; a job that had me working Sunday afternoons for awhile and the Giants/Jets being awful helped, sure, but the fact the league knew and hid so much about concussions and clearly STILL isn't doing the right thing about an issue that's so obvious and so at risk of happening every damn snap when the linesmen run into each other makes it hard to want to invest myself. Something has to change, and change right away.
Reading SO MANY comments on this video by people who have life-long negative effects from playing a contact sport in HIGH SCHOOL really makes me feel ill. High school and college football have always been my preference, but it's hard to sort out the ethics of supporting something that you need to start doing young to excel at but can end up screwing up your life before you even hit adulthood.
You cannot Tell me he isn't done for the season or perhaps Tell me this isn't the end of his career my prayers are with tua and his family 🙏🏻 I'm expecting the dolphins organization to have hell to pay
He will indeed never be the same. Two occipital concussions inside a week, all because Miami's organization wanted to maintain a useless early-season undefeated record. Now they lost that and they sacrificed the career of their franchise QB. It's infuriating, and the wrong man suffered damages due to these decisions.
Neuro specialist Doctor that cleared him after Sunday has been fired by the NFLPA.
@@deanfirnatine7814 good fucking riddance
@@psycoman9544 It's also worth noting that the Dolphins organization itself seems to be free of suspicion for the time being, though obviously the NFLPA is still investigating.
Still beyond pissed off that this had to happen. I'm so damn glad he seems to be okay, but I'm really worried for him at this point.
@@starwarriorterra8373 same
Pray for Tua Tagovailoa, this is beyond football. What the Miami Dolphins did was messed up and speaking from personal experience with multiple concussions the worst thing you can have happen is immediately suffer another concussion after having one
I was at the game, it was a very scary and somber moment in the night. What was an insanely hyped and energized atmosphere immediately died into respectful silence, chants of Tua's name, and cheers for him as he was taken off the field. No one there wanted to see that, and the NFL and doctor's that cleared him need to be investigated THOROUGHLY and INDEPENDENTLY.
Side note, I'm also glad I was at the game because the stadium media folks respectfully did not show a replay of it, which apparently was the opposite of Amazon's response playing it over and over again. I got on Twitter at half time to see if there was any updates on his condition and saw a replay of it. Once was enough for me. Can't imagine why they showed it so many times on TV
I'm a fairly old school, hard knocks football fan.... but even I felt unwell looking at Tua stumbling around in the aftermath of that hit, those could be lifechanging injuries- it's outrageous that he was allowed to pad up. Praying for a recovery for the poor guy.
If you felt unwell with this then you aren't a "old school football fan" you are just as wimpy as the rest of the tools on here.
Yeah. This ain't an old-school rules problem. Even in the 1950's, they aren't putting a guy in a cast and head bandages on the field. The Dolphins effectively did that here. Someone, somewhere, should have raised hell over this. Now, all we can hope is that this is the NFL's Black Sox.