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- Stephen A. sounds off following Tua Tagovailoa's injury | First Take
Stephen A. Smith and Bart Scott discuss Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa's injury vs. the Cincinnati Bengals in Week 4 of the NFL season.
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I like the part where the Miami coach said, "I would never put a player in harm's way."
Dude, it's football. Every game is like being in a car crash.
Literally, could happen to anyone. Think he's just a bit scared of the repercussions that can happen if something serious or in the future will happen. If im that player I'm 1000% playing in the game because those are my guys. But you need to have better evaluations.. and guidelines that they the player or doctor have no control over. I.E. have the NFL know the situation and to take care of the kid.
You sound dumb
Let's not be disingenuous about what is meant by this. I think everyone knows the inherent, initial harm that comes with playing football. This is in reference to nothing further that isn't necessary. Making sure any injuries or damages that have already occured aren't further exacerbated
Really? You know what he meant.
BIG FACTS BRO !
Dude was stumbling and shaking his head walking of Sunday. NFL just based on those images should have not let him back in. Dolphins saying it was his back should be ashamed, everybody else with the limited knowledge we have on the concussions, could see that he was some sort of concussed. The pressure of them being 3-0, Tua being doubted, all combined in to what has happened now....
That could have been like you said his back and his ankle. Y'all are not doctors. Y'all don't know That man's body better than he does.
@@flyguy7825 that's the point everyone is making, fool. The NFL had tonprotect tus from himself. You have no idea the pressure he had to be out there.
Exactly. Great points
@@themarkl0813 Well, you don't know it if he was pressured. Y'all are just assuming that That's his body. It's his livelihood. I've been hurt before. I've been sick before and I've gotten up to go to work not because of any pressure. It's because I have pride and I want to go out there and earn my money So I can live my own life. And that's not the point everyone was making dummy. They were making the point that he shouldn't even been out there Thursday night and I'm saying well. It probably truly was his back and ankle, but I'm pretty sure he will address the media because everybody's speaking on him as if they know what's going on and he would probably know better than anybody.
@@flyguy7825 🤡
I am a Bengals fan and after seeing Tua lock up like that I was furious. Couldn't even enjoy the rest of the game. I just hope Tua is able to recover and live a normal life.
same as an Eagles Fan. I picked the Bengals to win and wanted them to, I still believe they would've won whether Tua got hurt or not, but I couldn't even enjoy the game after. I don't think I'm gonna enjoy the NFL like I used to just last week. And I'm only 19, but man it's sickening what happened. I hope Tua doesn't play another Down this season just for his own Safety. his life matters more than a Week 5, 7, 13 Victory.
Me too. I just couldn't watch anymore
@@thomassankara1391 Football players get knocked out everyday B.
Same bro
@@clarkkent2250 this is worse than being knocked out bro lol
I swear my heart stopped for a second when I saw Tua’s hands after that hit last night. There’s absolutely no reason why he was out there last night after what happened just 4 days prior. None.
If your heart stopped you should get checked out for that
@@omensoffate lol true
Imagine thinking you know more that DOCTORS!!! Yall are probably those people who were antivax. Get out of here you uneducated swines!
Me being a good dolphins fan . I have a lot of faith in Tua . Not going to lie I shed some tears a little bit 💔
Ok your reaction is excessive..
Bart Scott had outstanding commentary about the situation.
Bro i had a concussion even though mine was in the military . I can say blaming the concussed is wrong everything else is on point . When you have one that you hardly know left from right it take you a good month to be fully okay . So even if he said he was good somebody should’ve said nope . We gonna protect you now the media gonna say whatever we gonna let you sit this game out come back evaluate and see where you at but blaming Tua cause he didn’t wanna be scrutinized is dumb Wentz had one and he begged to go back and they said No man we not gonna let you kill yourself this strictly on the dolphins
I was just about to say that 👏
Kaylyn Alexander During the month of recovery what are the symptoms you feel?
No he didn’t he’s no doctor how does he know hit his head in the same exact spot off the eye test
I totally agree
When I watched the game last night I said to my wife exactly what Bart Scott said. I don't think I want to let our son play football anymore ,and how happy I was that it seems like he likes basketball more now. My prayers go out to Tua.
Good. Tackle football should be banned for life
I think that’s a good choice. Especially when football culture rewards and celebrates big hits on players. Even in little league.
@@themarkl0813 not even the worst take at this point
@@themarkl0813 wow very convinient really
Not the same thing. Far different between high school and Pro football
It is a really good point when he was talking about the parents' kids saying "why would we subject our children to this?"
A fatality in the NFL will end up looking exactly like what we saw live on Thursday night...prayers up for Tua 🙏
he wasn't even walking straight after the head injury against the bills... major L to the dolphins medical staff for letting him play this game and not taking him out for the remaining of the bills game
Oh but him coming out firing out bullets before the injury is nothing huh
@@TzUuup he was already injured to start off with, he shouldn’t of played till their week 5 game
@@TzUuup that’s not how head injuries work kid. He seemed fine,they usually do but inside you’re injured and brains take a while to heal. Concussions are a bruise that heals slowly. You can seem fine and be at serious risk.
Imagine thinking you know more that DOCTORS!!! Yall are probably those people who were antivax. Get out of here you uneducated swines!
@@mlking213 Thanks Doctor. You should apply to the dolphins medical staff
Everybody knew it was a concussion that Sunday that 3-0 start got them moving wreckless
It wasn’t a concussion tho he was cleared several times.
@@Supersauce88 he was cleared because they care about winning streak than his health🤡
@@monkeymon327 before you call someone a clown you may want to do some research. He was cleared by a independent neurologist approved by the NFLPA and hired by the NFL. The neurologist who cleared him does not work for the dolphins for that exact reason. Winning and losing has no effect on the neurologist who cleared him.
@MM M he was cleared by a outside neurologist who has nothing to do with the dolphins. Without him being cleared he would not be able to play no matter what the team says. All you are doing is speculating with zero evidence or anything that points to him or the nfl being pressured. The nfl and NFLPA doesn’t play games when it comes to concussions. Amazon isn’t pressuring them to do anything.
Reckless*
That man hit his head on the ground, got up woosy, and they said it was his back 😩 Miami didn't have Tua's best interest at heart.
My ex-wife argued with me that our son should NEVER be allowed to play football in school when he gets older because of the danger and risks. I argued that there are risks and dangers in a lot of things you do; including and especially mental, and if he grows for that to become a dream of his to let him play. After seeing Tua last night, my viewpoint has become way harder to defend to even myself. I’m sure a lot of parents out there feel the same after seeing that.
The fault in that was the dolphins letting him back in the Bills game and letting him play thursday. football has been going a long time and a small minority of players have had really bad long term injuries from it. Its not everyone. Sometimes it happens because in anything there is risk. Anytime anyone gets into a car there's a risk of some drunk fool running a light and killing someone. There's a risk in everything just about it. Living by what ifs isn't really the way to go either. But the situation in this case was he was obviously concussed. anyone that had watched football or pro wrestling long enough to see concussed people. that was a concussion and the Dolphins either lied about it to override protocol or were incompetent in diagnosing it. He wasn't recovered from the previous concussion so the second time the injury was worsened. But there are a large majority of guys that went 14 years or more with barely a scratch playing the game. What happened with Tua is more of one of the freak cases that happened because of that teams negligence.
I agree with Bart on this. Prayers to Tua and his family.
if its about the bag...then the fault is with the money..how tf can you play 2 seasons as a NFL starting qb and dont get a decent bag
@@thomashauer6804 you don’t get it 😶
Tua is going to age 10 years in 5 years.
@@AriasMLopez you Sound unable to explain yourself
@@thomashauer6804 Tua’s reasoning for playing again and getting another concussion wasn’t about “I need to go out there and play because it’s about the money” NO, he played because the so called “doctor” cleared him out to play again, not the money. I feel like it was one of those situations where the staff felt like he got hit hard but was able to play the following week because it’s just the nature of the sport.
That being said, how many times have players sat out for weeks or even a season and still secure big checks? Literally happening with Deshaun Watson. The guy on the show put up words but it’s not factual. Tua’s might have career ending injury.
Bart always comes with it. Stephen A. needs him on the show
Bart would definitely be one of those guys pressuring Tua to go out there …, he literally said he made his base line test simple on purpose …, which implies he would play after getting concussed cause he can pass the test easy
@@ryanlebard3787 ok so where you going with that comment
No he doesn’t. His takes are terrible. He said Jameis Winston is a possible MVP candidate. 😂
@@tomnastyV2 iam saying he would definitely one of the players pressuring Tua to come back…, and his tales are horrible he never comes with it
@@ryanlebard3787 every player would be you think any players are coming from Stephen A point? From a competitive point nobody is trying to lose
I agree. The flexing of the hands was scary. I've seen it before with head injuries. They allowed this to happen by the reaction they had last week. The concussion checks were supposed to prevent this! This is a young man, and this could be a life-altering injury!! No one wants to see this!! This is why Giselle wants Tom to quit! Because these injuries happen in seconds, and there's no getting your brain back.
exactly. Also, NFL games should be every 2 weeks. This eliminates most injuries and all players are close to 100% health. This situation with Tua is not good... NFL will start loosing future players too early because of this..
@@CSJiGSaW08 I don't think playing every 2 weeks is feasible, that would make the season over 8 months long.
Agree across the panel. Great topics, great perspectives
Right on Stephen A.!
Miami Dolphin only see Tua as a product and only care for getting 100% wins. The whole organisation is at fault here
You are 100% correct. Dolphins get the blame
Did u talk to the gm? Coach?
Stop. He's not SO much better than Teddy that they are going to risk everything over it.
Well of course he’s a product and gets paid very well for it.
@@xbotLife then Tua better decide soon if it's worth it to play football. Because his long-term health is at risk.
As someone who went through multiple sports related concussions over a few months 20 years ago, the most overlooked part of concussions, in terms of injury and consequences, symptoms etc. are soft tissue, ie muscle and nerve damage at the top and base of the neck, which looks to me like what might be a significant part of his injury
I have been a legit Dolphins fan for 7 years now . I am completely heartbroken for my guy Tua . When everyone out there talk down on him I never did !!! They have a lot to say about people, comparing him to his draft mates and Tua has a better winning record than Justin and Joe . Joe did his thing taking his team to the Super Bowl I give him props for that but WINNING is what Tua all about ! Tua won over my heart to be the Miami Dolphins QB1 . I have a lot of faith for him never doubted him. What I saw last night maneeeee I shed some tears. Wow ! Things happens so fast when that happen I didn’t care about the game no more . hoping for an fast recovery for him and I hate that this maybe messed up his whole career I am heartbroken 💔
Medical team and coach should be investigated
Truly tho I must say Bart Scott had incredible commentary with this whole Tua situation , truly my upmost prayers for him 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🙏🙏🙏
Being left handed myself I was living vicariously (shoutout to the homie in the comments)through him since college. Very sad to see him get hurt. He’s tough, I hope he comes back when he’s legit ready.
He's actually right handed 🤷♂️😄
I also think the word you were looking for is "vicariously" not "precariously".
Seeing that young man’s hands contort like that, horrifying truly horrifying. I pray that he can recover, and I pray that the Dolphins are held accountable for this negligence.
Bart was right on point! Many to blame and many chances this could have been prevented. Really hope they protect him better
This is the perfect segment. 👏
We all should APPLAUD 👏🏾 what Bart said
Amen I so agree with you Prayers for Tua love ya man
I agree! Somebody's got to go!
Such a great point! This happened during prime time TNF
Dude my excitement & enthusiasm for this football season is way down after seeing Tua’s injury last nite! I hope he’s doing better.😞
Well said Bart Scott..honestly at its 👌 👍
“Will never put a player in a position to be in harm’s way. That’s not what I’m about at all.” -Mike McDaniel
Last night determined that was a lie.
Bart Scott hit this out the park!
When Tua stumbled, shook his head repeatedly, grabbing his head/facemask. I immediately went back to my last concussion, I did the same things! It was as if I could actually feel that pressure in my head, the foggyness, the spinning (of the field). EVERY football pIayer knows this is what a concussion looks like. I also lectured on traumatic brain/spinal cord injuries. When i heard he was playing 4 days later, i was angry and very concerned all day yesterday because I knew if he took another hit his symptoms would come back WORSE than on Sunday, even if the hit was LIGHTER than the hit on Sunday (Just like Bart said). SIS (Second Impact Syndrome) can result in death... basically it's getting two concussions close together which leads to swelling of the brain. Thank God this did not happen. This made me sick to my stomach because it did not have to happen. The desire to win a football game was more important that his health because EVERYONE on that field knew he had a concussion.
And for those people (some were former players) who said it might be a back injury or spasm! Back spasm? When someone gets a back spasm the pain is sudden and intense, there ain't no walking, no moving around (except for writhing in pain), there is no standing up from wherever you are, it's impossible because you can't move, the pain is so intense. You could have offered me a million dollars to get up and walk around from the chair I was in the last time i had a sudden back spasm and you would have had to give that money to someone else! Nonsense!
Hey Mate how’s your day going have you heard of bitcoin and It’s current value…?
Imagine thinking you know more that DOCTORS!!! Yall are probably those people who were antivax. Get out of here you uneducated swines!
@@polomagilbert9610 chill bro
GOOD! Exactly right. Wins over players! Praying for Tua🙏
Bart Scott Summed it up for everyone. That was explained perfectly and makes a ton of sense. Tia understands the potential dangers of playing but clearly the risk outweighs the reward. He’s still in his rookie contract and if he can stay healthy and produce numbers his and his Family’s lives will change forever when he gets that second deal. He’s probably been playing ball since he could walk and generational wealth is within his grasp. I pray he gets and stays healthy he’s seems to be a very likeable guy.
😂😅I’m sorry for laughing, but the way he started this segment off. “Somebody’s got to get fired”
I saw the video of his injury against the Bills. Hearing he was playing against the Bengals I told my mom before the game "if he gets sacked this game it is going to be 100x worse. he should not be playing". And what happened? He was sacked and he was on the field in pain and frozen for 10 minutes before being carted away. Absolutely disgraceful he was playing that night not even a week after that concussion.
Man that was scary ash to see live.. I immediately prayed man thank God He ok fr . I agree 100% SAS
excellent segment
Been waiting onnis . Knowing what happen 4 days prior to the injury , watching the video of it gives me CHILLS through my whole body bruh . I can only imagine what he’s going through bruh 😓😓
Dolphins medical staff needs to be sued for this
How is their fault he got hurt in the Bengals game?!!?!
@@voltrono4166 Cleared him to play when he clearly got a concussion on Sunday
@@voltrono4166 he still may have not been 100% ready yet and the doctors said it was OK anyways
@@voltrono4166 he was clearly concussed in the bills game literally 4 days before the cincy game. He shouldn't of been allowed back in the bills game let alone the cincy game. This is 100% on the medical staff
Heads need to roll
There's been more injuries during this era of football and analysts say it's "Safer than the game of the past." BS!!🤣🤣
Scott Bart is totally correct 💯. I seen Tua last night and said I won't let that happen to my son. He's playing golf ⛳⛳...
Daniel jones stumbled last year and sunday i told my dad if they stopped the nfl next week i would not be surprised especially after that jet and bengal game with injuries and tua getting hurt on sunday . its too much now my thoughts are with tua for his speedy recovery . i almost shed a tear for him
Prayers goes out to Tua
That was an excellent take 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾
The power of sports and the pressure to Winning is insane. Plus...as a former athlete...at the time...a player is usually so juiced...and hyped...the true pain comes the day after. By then...it's too late.
Somebody will be in big trouble for this. I hope tua makes a full recovery.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
The whole Dolphins organization
Wouldn’t be surprised if they played him Sunday
I'm hoping 🙏 nothing but the best for Tua. 🙏 ❤️ 💙 💜 💖
Excellent point of views💯
Thanks for not showing the video on repeat.
Bart spitting facts
The way he stumbled and fell walking off Sunday should've had him benched if not for a few weeks, but for the season, concussions are no joke. When his fingers spasmed the way it did last night he was out cold. Tell tale sign of head trauma.
Bridgewater is a decent backup, he did pretty well when Brees was injured, was a tough loss last night. But my wishes for his speedy recovery.
Exactly right guys
Stephan A.
You could not have said it any better ...im totally in agreement with you regarding these two incidents...well said my brother ..
MANNNN...... MY DOLPHIN 😭😭😭😭😭..... PRAYER'S FOR TUA MANNNNNNN 😭
Flores would have benched him during Sunday after the play, rightfully so.
I was thinking the same thing!
McDaniels is the current head coach for Miami.
Bart Scott's input is invaluable, and I have come to respect his words immensely.
“soft pressure” as football player is universal. It’s at every level of the game from youth to professional.
Tua flew back on the plane with the team after being at the hospital?! He has back, head, and neck issues. The takeoff, landing, and the pressure at being thousands of feet in the air. I can't believe this negligent Dolphins organization.
That’s why they have been losing for so long
UC is one of the top medical centers in America, period. They cleared him for travel, I would have full trust in their opinion (in regards to him traveling home)
you a doctor now?
@@hamster1385 🤡
@@RL-ww5ev 🤡
He went down then got up shook his head like his bell was rung then collapsed. He was concussed period!
Tua has heart. Sucks that this happened. God speed
VERY WELL SAID... BART 👏
This kind of back to back head trauma is going to have lifelong implications for Tua. The organization needs to be held accountable for letting him play.
Exactly! And thank god it did not paralyze him or worse. Yeah somebody has to lose their job at this point
@@PrettySavage22 more than just somebody this was a group effort
He's a grown man.. he could have sat out. and he was cleared by the NFL.
You honestly believe that even though they "cleared" him that he should have been out there???
@@voltrono4166 Just because youve been "cleared" doesnt mean your healthy..
This could effect his career long term ....somebody gotta go
That's overly dramatic. If it does affect his career, it's his fault for not getting rid of the ball. Also, he wasn't man enough to take the hit. He was retreating like one of those little mice trying to get away from the cat. Had he just leaned into the hit or lowered his shoulder into the defender like a grown man, this would not have happened because his head wouldn't have whipped against the turf. You're in a contact sport! Man up and take the hit!
He has to call brees or Wilson smaller qbs how to take a sack
@@Zenigundam wasn’t his fault stop talking football
@@Zenigundam Moron
@@Zenigundam you sound dumb asf. “It’s his fault for not getting rid of the ball”. Really dude?
This reminds me so much of the RG3 situation. Also Bret Hart situations
Prayers for Tua
WELL SAID BART! 🙏🏾
If I was tua’s parents I’d be out for blood homie. People gotta think if it was your kid what would you do??? No way that man should’ve been playing. Come on now… ridiculous
Yep...and he's Samoan... with a big family...both in size and in number... Mike McDaniel is going to sleep with one eye open foe a long time....
I was in a similar event to Tua in high school a few years ago and I am infuriated by this situation purely out of empathy, I can only imagine what his parents feel like
Yup, someone would be getting the 3 R’s
Stupid thing to say he could have gotten that kind of concussion even if he didn't get hurt on Sunday its football Tua I part of the problem to but that's part of the game the peer pressure to play.
@@pacingone I don’t understand how is coach McDaniel the main issue here. The Fins medical staff "cleared" Tua twice and thought he was ok, so they are the ones that should sleep with one eye open. Tua and McDaniel trust each other, if Tua felt like he was ready to go and wanted to help his team, then Mike let him do that.
Well said BART! WELL SAID
I agree.
Stephen A Smith called it 4 days ago that it was a concussion while everyone doubled down.Head Trauma following another head trauma in a span of 4days isn't good at all.
I knew he shouldn’t have played that’s y I didn’t play him in fantasy…prayers up for Tua 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
No one cares about your fantasy team when a player has neurological issues
Dude shut up u trying to twist my words learn how to read I said prayers up for tua clown a$$ punk
Don't see how anyone at the game Sunday could let him come back in the game. This is the equivalent of a boxer getting knocked down, getting up, shaking the cobwebs out, staggering and falling back down. Then telling the ref I'm fine, my back just got a little tight, and the ref says OK, continue fighting.
Max was right about teams should only be playing on Thursday night after a bye week
I think it was more of the whiplash that caused the concussion than the actual head hitting the ground. He got swung pretty fast. Like they're saying, it's a lot easier to get a second concussion within a few days of the previous one. It didn't look like he hit the ground that hard. But either way he shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. I hope he's going to be okay.
This is exactly it. Bart explained it perfectly: the concussion happens when the head has a sudden stop, but the brain keeps moving and crashes into the side of the skull. So when Tua was brought down against the Bills, you see his head whip back and forth. When his head hit the ground and had a sudden stop, his brain would have smashed against the back of his skull.
Bauer was working on a piece of experimental equipment a few years ago that went around a player's neck and applied mild pressure so that there would be a larger blood barrier between the brain and skull, thus theoretically limiting the potential for concussions. This was tested in hockey and football players and unfortunately was not as effective as they hoped and never really caught on.
I wish they showed the entire 20+ min segment
Good work Bart, well said.
What set was he claiming? Anyone know?
I'm a Bills fan and I hope and Pray 🙏🏾 that he will be ok and to resume in having a normal healthy life.
Honestly he should consider retirement now cause another situation like that and he could die
Bless Steven A for calling out those who should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for clearing Tua.
he Come back Relaxing 😌😎
Bart Scott contributed the only reasonable, objective comments regarding this unfortunate situation. In his short football career, Tua has had more than his fair share of bad breaks. Hoping he regains his health with a 100% recovery , that's really what matters most.
Thank you Stephen A standing up for the athlete
He doesn’t care in fact he loves this for the content on the show haha
@@omensoffate most likely but this story needs to be blown up how many more players are going to suffer this? I know it's a rough sport and I love it but I wouldn't be saying anything had he been held out of this game to make sure he was completely okay cause sometimes your adrenaline keeps you from feeling things
@@omensoffate idc bruh content or not Tua could have died
Mann this is crazy. That Mann could’ve died out there. This is really serious.
Yep
well said BART
Tua and Ryan Shazier plays were by far the scariest in game injuries I've witnessed. Tua shouldn't have been on the field.
-Which member of the Dolphins Medical staff needs to be fired?
-YES.
If you think they have total control over that you are an idiot.
"He's paralyyyyyzed.....He can't even wiggle his toes...take his socks"
----Patrice O'Neal...the man, the myth...the legend
One of Barts best takes
Bart Scott is totally on point. Such a good discussion about the realities of the sport and what happened.
Finally saw what happens and I did cringed. I do agree with Stephen A and the panel. Each coach and the NFL should step up and make these protocols more strict.
My son is playing football and I'm glad he's on the sideline during the game and practice he gets to play on the field and get a couple of hits that's it. I pray that he doesn't make this a long committment, he does just want him to be careful😢😢
Listen bruh even if tua passed the concussion protocol last week I still wouldn’t have put him in what we saw last week was scary and this week was even scarier even if he passed the protocol u also gotta protect players from themselves 💯
Bart Scott spoke str8 facts..."Sometimes a player needs to be protected from himself" 💯
Well said Bart!!!!
That tackle and slamming him to the field can't go unnoticed either
NOBODY HAS SAID A THING YET BRO! My thing is why is everyone actin like doctor malpractice is still a common problem in the NFL still? Most people are actin as if concussion protocols aren't a thing because they all *think* Tua got a concussion last week.
Can we talk about how the bengals were lowkey targeting tua ? Before that there was a sack where they could’ve normally tackled him but dove straight for his legs
That was a legitimate tackle;Bengals player was entitled to follow through with the sack
@@rouskeycarpel1436 I agree. It might have been a bit more than necessary, but nothing out of the ordinary, and definitely didn't look malicious.
@@rouskeycarpel1436 Cap. Check the rule book you cant "follow through" for any tackle on a QB and what he did was completely unnecessary he basically slammed Tua
Well said, Bart Scott. And further, Bart is seeing this the way the fans of today and TOMORROW should see it.
Could we see a new generation of athletes going to OTHER sports than football specifically because other sports have better health and safety protocols at all levels? Keep treating players like Tua and the NFL will have bigger things to worry about down the road. Facts.
Where was this take on Monday morning?
Roger Goodell: "The NFL takes concussions and player safety very seriously."
Everyone: 😅😂🤣
It was a back injury but you can lie to yourself if you want.
@@TheBrotherHoodSports at this point , doesn't matter which injury it was . Shouldn't never been playing last night regardless
@@jleww8959 Well you can say it doesn't matter but if it really doesnt then why is that the main focus? Everybody is saying the first injury was a concussion regardless of what the medical professionals said.
It’s not a back injury
@@TheBrotherHoodSports he shouldn't never played last night from what happened last week . It's that simple .