They have said numerous times in numerous ways that it's not happening. If they put an engine like the Ducati on a rail it will be purposely built for the engine. To modify the current rail to fit that engine would take way too long and if they did... it pretty much would have to be permanent. Now even with the engine that is currently own it the axles can't really handle that much power adding 20 to 30 more without the cushion of the torque converter and it's almost certainly going to bend/break something.
NOOOOOOO!!! They just need to buy a new engine for the drag rail. Because I want to see the ducati kart drag race against the drag rail. Otherwise what's the point of having a drag kart if there isn't anything WORTHY enough to drag race against it???
These karts are one of a kind. They should be different. And wouldn't you want to see the drag rail vs the ducati??? Not only is it a good match but you'll see both of these guys on the screen instead of one of them behind the camera.
@@Goathierbmw Sweet build man! I subbed. Checking it out now. Ive always thought of doing a similar proj. With a 750 katana engine and parts laying around 👍👍
Changing tire size would help with the traction problem, as well change the top end gearing! The paddle shifters seems OK, but i'd put a low tension spring to keep it in disengaged area. Maybe look at a collar from a old BMX freestyle bike for the cables. They sell short cables from the handlebars to the collar which might work as well! Just my 2 cents, otherwise I love the build all together!
@@bhaddock9277 agreed, although i suppose in this day and age its harder to find large open spaces for free. there are too many people on this planet.. jk.. but im sure they could find somewhere, why build it if you are not going to use it properly.
@@jacklawford6452 Aw... How cute... An adorable little prepubescent middle school teen trying to be *EDGY* whilst trying to boost the little amount of ego they have by making fun of someone else to look cool on the internet. In fact I'd be offended if I didn't feel so sorry about that fact that you clearly have some insecurities regarding yourself. Maybe try being a little more original with insults if you really want to get attention dude. LMFAO!
@@jacklawford6452 Nah. Just giving attention to the half assed troll who thinks they've one upped me with generic ass Furry insults since mommy and daddy don't appear to be giving you enough. And come on... really... A DOG?!?!... I have *WAY* higher standers then mutts and K9's dude. Please....
NOOOOOOO!!! They just need to buy a new engine for the drag rail. Because I want to see the ducati kart drag race against the drag rail. Otherwise what's the point of having a drag kart if there isn't anything WORTHY enough to drag race against it???
@Bills BuildAll 125 is a very conservative estimate. Maybe in the 1/8th. Keep in mind, these guys also don't want to die or become seriously mangled. They want to keep making cool builds that are DIY level.
@@AgnotologyTV the rail is already a rolling safety cage. If they added a safer seating arrangement they'd be fine. I think they could gear it taller and aim for a very fast eighth. As soon as they get some traction. They could bang every gear and pull some wicked times
What you guys need to do is get rid of the right paddle shifter, make the left paddle shifter the CLUTCH, and make a column shifter on the right that shifts up when you push it forward and downshifts when you pull it backwards.
Casman that’s an even better idea, would definitely give more control along with my comment of a bigger racing seat with a harness so you feel more secure While driving
@Daver G don't need clutch to shift if you do it right. Also before they had to take their whole hand off, grab another bar and then back to the steering wheel. Having both hands still touching the wheel makes reacting to an emergency much easier
Obviously you need to take it to a paved lot preferably a road racing track and bang that thing trough the gears and of course video it and upload to Tube! Crazy!
Yes drag rail vs ducati! Ike vs (forgot the other guys name...) But this would be gr8. Don't put the ducati on the drag rail. Let them be there own go karts!
I wouldn't mind taking it down the 1/8th, but not keen on the 1/4. If it were mine, I'd extend the wheelbase out some and at least 6" wider, and putting some larger diameter and wider slicks on it, and potentially a roll cage. Just to give people an idea on how insane this thing is. Let's just be conservative and say driver + kart is 400lbs, at 80HP that's a HP to weight ratio of 0.2. A Veyron is around 0.24 A stock Corvette C5 is around 0.1. The closest car I can find without tons and tons of digging and this is fitting... The 2017 Dodge Viper SRT and that is 0.19. So this kart is in the same power to weight range as a Viper. Anyone that has ever driven a Viper should be able to relate here. Now if by chance the kart and driver is closer to say 320 lbs which I am thinking would be about right, then it's closer to 0.25 so better than a Veyron.
Right on! They won't set it up for the 1/4 tho. It will take a lifetime to perfect. Longer wheelbase and the engine should be mounted in the middle on top of the axle for maximum acceleration. Also with nitrous, a tune, alchlohol, and springs and cam it would be up to par with f1 cars!
@@VasilyBuilds Yeah I am sure they wouldn't take it down the 1/4. As for mounting it in the middle? The wheel base would have to be extended quite a bit to do that properly. You really don't need to, just need to get the weight balance about right while sitting in it. Get a few bathroom scales put one under each tire get in it and move the engine and seat around until the back rear tires are close to being equal and that should cut it. Definitely need to widen the track as well it should be a little more stable and with the wider track you can fit wider tires. Now as for getting it on par with an F1 car? I assume power to weight ratio? Not including Kers an F1 car is around 0.47. To get about equal to that the kart would need to have around 190hp if total weight is 400lbs or about 152hp if it's about 320lbs. That's quite a bit of power, if they think it's scary now, with that much it would be insane.
Well with this mindset they will just end up building an Ariel atom that’s far from street legal... I’d keep it as a go kart and make the power more useable. Improve the design rather than make a whole new one
You guys are freaking nuts. 26 years ago I had a bad go kart accident. It changed my whole life, since then there have been so many bad decisions and so many regrets.
I think if that engine was on the rail the rear axle would break the vtwin you guys had on it was awesome but the ducati would be mental...I am all for this engine on the rail lol
@@delanosheffield3946 I'm in France, so not sure what offer up is, but actually find most my stuff on facebook groups or ebay at the moment! Just got the second kart build on our channel! They're such fun. Maybe one day I'll have a bike engine too 😎
Everyone says "put it on the drag rail" but I say no. I want to see the drag rail vs the ducati. And I want to see both of these guys on the screen at once instead of having them take turns on who's riding and who's holding the camera. It'd be cool to see them race each other.
@@Yung_Hefty lol u can't be serious that ducati is better than that 670 could ever be there is only 1 way that 670 could beat the ducati and that's if it broke
I dig your guy's videos because you try to have a project working before the end of the episode unlike some other channels that never finish a project, cheers. This Ducarti is RAD!
@@Hermiwalle I mean they have said in video it's too wide to fit on the rail and the kart is a one of a kind being there 2 reasons they wont put it on the rail maybe they could use like an old Harley motor but as I say that I think that might be too big for them as well
NOOOOOOO!!! They just need to buy a new engine for the drag rail. Because I want to see the ducati kart drag race against the drag rail. Otherwise what's the point of having a drag kart if there isn't anything WORTHY enough to drag race against it???
They also said they don't want to put the ducati engine on the drag rail because it's one of a kind. Just like the drag rail should be, one of a kind. And instead of watching one of them drive a kart at a time wouldn't you want to see them race each other with the drag rail vs the ducati???
I realize that the rail was built to advertise for all the 670 speed parts, but have they been all they were purported to be? Not really- the engine seized on the first pass. The consensus here is to put the Ducati mill on the rail.. I tend to agree. Would it be a huge benefit to install an automotive rear end and drive shaft in place of the live axle? Those whipping multi-staged chains scare the hell out of me. A real diff would give you the added benefit of larger, stickier rear tires as well.. Real slicks, anyone?
@@SoI_Badguy Sure, it might not crack in half as soon as they open the throttle, but that roll cage would be absolutely useless if something happened and the rear wheels locked (or got covered in oil) on the big end. I think the real reason they don't want to do it is that those kinds of speeds are starting to venture outside of "fun" and into "stupidly dangerous." Regardless of whether it's possible or not, they've very clearly stated that they're not going to do it.
can you guys please say what rear sprocket you used on the axle? i am building a gsxr1000 kart right now and am having gearing troubles. can everyone please like this so they see? thanks
The fact that you guys built something that is totally unreasonable and totally unsafe that you can’t even use it to its full potential is absolutely amazing and imma have to do the same thing.
Put the ducati engine on the rail Just do it you guys can make amount were you don't have to modify the original mount that's already on their for the 670 you basically can just swap engines out
@@Yung_Hefty they didnt say that the ducati was "one of a kind" as a reason for not putting it on the rail. the reason why they wont put it on the rail is because the axle would snap if they did put the ducati on it. didnt ye see the video before with them testing out the rail on the fixed 670? they said they wont do it and they showed footage of the axle flexing with the 670 on it
Yeah it would be awesome to see the Ducati on the rail all they would have to do is put a bit more support for the axle as it had a bit of flex even with the 670 so if they could put support right to the back wheels or thicker axle and proper covers over the moving parts inside the driver's cockpit and then call it the Ducati Death Rail
These kind of videos I'd like to see more, this makes engineering looks great. As a kid it looked so boring that I never did, but by watching it now it's like way too much fun! I'm 24 years old now, so who knows? Really nice video
wow its finally here. so proud. I had a bit of a disagreement with some of the fellow subscribers about the drag rail project.. this kart is a fine piece. wish the engine was on the drag rail but hell ill take it. nice job. fantastic.
Ive seen you two take alot of test rides and thrash rides... but never have i seen you guys both in shock/fear/lost for words than i have after this ride. lol. pretty funny actually. But welcome to playing with big boy toys! You guys respected the hell outta that machine, where most people would get themselves in alotta trouble quick Cheers to you two and all the awesome vids and please continue more with this one especially!
You can see the comments are piled up to do what I’ve asked you to do so many times for so long is to do the obvious. You guys are driving me nuts with procrastinating, you know you’re gonna.
take the ducarti to a empty parking lot, or a area with little to no obstacles and try to see how fast you can get it before you have to back off, also try and fix the traction issues so its a little bit less of a death machine, but i'd really like to see more of this cart
Why won’t you guys give the fans what they want and put the Ducati motor on the drag rail, you have a drag frame and a high hp motor, where is the disconnect here guys.....
Great job guys, might be a good idea to add a 2nd caliper to rear axle to help brake that monster, also a different set of pedals might just make it more comfortable to run it at higher speeds and some kind of nose to keep anything away from the pedals, man I ( as a 56 year old man) would love a chance to drive such a wicked machine as that, racing stock cars is my thrill but to be at those speeds 2 inches off the ground must really feel special...show us more of the "death Ducarti" :)
Never did stock cars did have the opportunity driving for a man who had drag boats and tractor pullers. I also ran the mud bog circuit for several years. And have raced the frontier and mint 400s. But that was decades ago. My biggest thrill on four wheels now is my street legal Supercar powered by a Honda supercharged cbr1000rr. Around 230 hp. I Designed and built from the ground up. Chromoly frame cage. The front of the body looks similar to a GT40 the back is a fusion between a vet and a couple other supercars. 12.4 ' long 70" wide 1O80# ) After working the body out in wood, I vacuum formed polycarbonate. Leaving a nice smooth form for handlaying the colored carbon fiber. The cost of the body was under $1,500. It is four-wheel independent with decent travel and bags. 50% of the roads in our area are dirt just going and coming from the ranch is 8 miles of dirt road. but when out on the pavement I can drop it to within 4 in. I plugged the engine into a Corolla all-wheel drive limited slip transaxle. I have 36 gears, or six speeds with six gear ratios to choose from depending on need. Using Corolla hubs and rotors as well. (Over built) Of course that front wheel drive transaxle is in back. And what would have been the rear diff is in the front. Back to your statement. That feeling of flying 4 in off the ground at 190+. It's exhilarating and terrifying. Specially with the four-wheel drive hooking up in the corners. And when using high gear just cruising on the interstate, it's 40+ mpg. Cost of the build was under $4,000. looks, drives, and handles like a supercar. But cheaper than a buy here pay here car. Gee retirement is fun!! Let that be an inspiration for your own build. I'm 71.
Suggestion - Three wheeler. The front end from a kart (from the seat forward), with the back end of a mini bike. (Maybe play around with different rear tire sizes and widths. )
Reverse trike. I been wanting to build one for years. Front end of old mini atv and rear end of mini dirtbike. Then you left with a rear end of a atv and front end of a mini dirtbike for other projects.
I suggested that you put on paddle shifts on that cart a long time ago but a year ago I'm glad to see you guys finally did it that thing looks to be working suite keep up the good work guys love those videos keep it up
Would probably need one if the motor was on the rail in a decent rolling chassis and racing wheels/tyres with full pro safety features(at least all round racing disc brakes what with that power to weight ratio).... and ALWAYS a Professionally made ROLL CAGE.... a basic carbon fibre made one could meen staying alive longer... living is more fun than being dead... add a racing bucket seat with full racing harness and only then would I give it the full bollocks on a strip.... respect
Boys.....I just thought of an immortal being who possibly has the courage to wring that thing at a drag strip, and who would create the best collab ever.....*drumroll*.....COLIN FURZE
My son offered to run it at Bonneville. I wouldn't call him a "dare-devil" though. Even "insane" would be a weak description of him. More along the lines of "Bat Shit Crazy" I'd say. He and his brother took the extra engine for the drag boat and somehow wedged it into a Honda Civic and took it out too the flats. A car that weighed no more than a popcorn fart with a blown, alcohol injected, all aluminun, 468ci Rodeck in a Civic. We have no idea what the thing would do. A mile and a half in, at 160, it started to disintegrate. Literally. The hood came off then the left front fender abandoned ship just before the plexiglass wind screen came in on him. He decided that it was a prudent time to lift. But he got 160 and wasn't in top gear yet. When we got down to where he'd finally come to a stop, after picking up car parts along the way, he figured he duct tape everything back in and try it again the next day. My daughter-in-law, upon hearing that, told him in no uncertain terms that he had two choices. Either "put the damned thing back on the trailer and go home, or find a good divorce lawyer in Monday morning". He's still married, but she hasn't quite, got him fully reigned in yet. She found a baby carseat out in the shop that had a custom frame under it complete with go-cart tires and wheels and a chainsaw engine. Needless to say, he's not allowed to be alone out in the shop with my grandson anymore.
They aren't going to put it on the rail guys, the axle on the rail can barely handle the 670 let alone that motor, plus they're terrified of that motor to begin with...unless they put a bigger axle on the rail like they already should do...but whatever.
You guys should strengthen the frame on the dukarti, build a roll Cage, and put a slower ratio rack and pinion on it, and find a Harley Davenson Vrod engine to put in the rail
Love it... getting old seeing everyone say "put it on the rail!!" Clearly no one has heard yall explain over and over of why y'all can't. I personally love the rail as is anyways.. and I forsure don't wanna see yall chop it into pieces just to stick the Ducati on there... as far as you'd have to go to modify the rail you're better off building a whole separate rail... then you'd have TWO of them... then everyone would be happy (I think)
See, this one makes sense. Rebuild the 670 woth a beefed up oil pump. There is too much history and work put into both the rail and the Ducati kart to hack em up.
Personally I'd like to see that second rail setup to hit the sand drag strip at busco beach.. put some paddles on it and all. In sure theres smaller sized paddles they can find that'd normally go on a smaller/youth size quad. Would be perfect for such a machine.. had that on the brain ever since they took the rail there. That would be badass.
Hell no a desmo engine don't sound like those shits. I had a 900 ss cr and my bro has his legendary 748. Don't you dare say that. I also have 3 Ford truck motors sitting in the backyard broke now from Engine swaps we've done. They suck ass man
StarPuss Stretch the frame about 8 inches, move the driver forward and put a larger final sprocket on it. Those things done, it would become a real beast.
Drag rail. Ducati. Doesn’t have to be permanent boys but it needs to happen. The people want it.
Came here just to say this
they already said the axle on the drag rail could never handle the ducati engine
hell yea
They have said numerous times in numerous ways that it's not happening. If they put an engine like the Ducati on a rail it will be purposely built for the engine. To modify the current rail to fit that engine would take way too long and if they did... it pretty much would have to be permanent.
Now even with the engine that is currently own it the axles can't really handle that much power adding 20 to 30 more without the cushion of the torque converter and it's almost certainly going to bend/break something.
i would love to see that ducati on the drag car it would be so cool run it down the track fast time right there
Yes, you definitely need to put that bad boy on the dragster, for sure!!!
OH YEAH!
Ducati engine + drag rail chassis = a perfect match.
weight distribution: front 50 back 50 left 20 right 80
😂 that’s stupid
Go to fast right and you’re flipping
@@kadenrwy yeah you got the joke😂😎
you need to put that in the drag rall.
You should put that on the drag rail
NOOOOOOO!!! They just need to buy a new engine for the drag rail. Because I want to see the ducati kart drag race against the drag rail. Otherwise what's the point of having a drag kart if there isn't anything WORTHY enough to drag race against it???
These karts are one of a kind. They should be different. And wouldn't you want to see the drag rail vs the ducati??? Not only is it a good match but you'll see both of these guys on the screen instead of one of them behind the camera.
They said countless times that they won't put it on the rail, because that engine is 4" too wide
Ok they make a new rail for it
@Savage Teddy Bear dont copy and paste
I'd put a guard on to protect your arm from broken chain. That thing will take your arm.
When they break they fly like crazy!!
I am building a CBR600 buggy from scratch, check it out on my channel!
@@Goathierbmw Sweet build man! I subbed. Checking it out now. Ive always thought of doing a similar proj. With a 750 katana engine and parts laying around 👍👍
@@JaredHIll13 Thanks !! The 600 is pretty strong!!
Scott Ziegler really good advice
Or weld on a cover lol
Changing tire size would help with the traction problem, as well change the top end gearing! The paddle shifters seems OK, but i'd put a low tension spring to keep it in disengaged area. Maybe look at a collar from a old BMX freestyle bike for the cables. They sell short cables from the handlebars to the collar which might work as well! Just my 2 cents, otherwise I love the build all together!
Drag rail has needed this motor all along.
Anybody else see the wheelie at 9:13?
CarsandCameras yea
Yea me Nice vid
RAIL!!!!! Taller back tires
Sure did it’s trying that’s a amazing sign
CarsandCameras you should put the motor on the mower
i want to see them take this somewhere with more space and get on it properly, that would be sick.
Never understand why I see all these interesting project vehicles are tested out in small unsuitable spaces either.
@@bhaddock9277 agreed, although i suppose in this day and age its harder to find large open spaces for free. there are too many people on this planet.. jk.. but im sure they could find somewhere, why build it if you are not going to use it properly.
Bonneville salts flats with Craig Breedlove driving.
It's cause lawsuits. People don't want some to get hurt in their property.
@@JRPW Take it to the drag strip
Actual footage of them riding at 8:36.
Tim Gary thank you
Thank you 🙏🏻 😂
You just save 8 minutes of my life
Thx
@@nedboase7909 Trying to drive.
Steering wheel? More like "directional suggestion device".
😂😂😂😂😂
hahahaha!!!!!
Would be funny if you weren’t a furry
@@jacklawford6452 Aw... How cute... An adorable little prepubescent middle school teen trying to be *EDGY* whilst trying to boost the little amount of ego they have by making fun of someone else to look cool on the internet. In fact I'd be offended if I didn't feel so sorry about that fact that you clearly have some insecurities regarding yourself. Maybe try being a little more original with insults if you really want to get attention dude. LMFAO!
@@jacklawford6452 Nah. Just giving attention to the half assed troll who thinks they've one upped me with generic ass Furry insults since mommy and daddy don't appear to be giving you enough. And come on... really... A DOG?!?!... I have *WAY* higher standers then mutts and K9's dude. Please....
I would prefer this engine on ur dragster.
NOOOOOOO!!! They just need to buy a new engine for the drag rail. Because I want to see the ducati kart drag race against the drag rail. Otherwise what's the point of having a drag kart if there isn't anything WORTHY enough to drag race against it???
They said countless times that they won't put it on the rail, because that engine is 4" too wide
@Bills BuildAll 125 is a very conservative estimate. Maybe in the 1/8th. Keep in mind, these guys also don't want to die or become seriously mangled. They want to keep making cool builds that are DIY level.
@@Sithhy not countless times, i heard them say it once. They did say it but not a whole bunch of times
@@AgnotologyTV the rail is already a rolling safety cage. If they added a safer seating arrangement they'd be fine. I think they could gear it taller and aim for a very fast eighth. As soon as they get some traction. They could bang every gear and pull some wicked times
What you guys need to do is get rid of the right paddle shifter, make the left paddle shifter the CLUTCH, and make a column shifter on the right that shifts up when you push it forward and downshifts when you pull it backwards.
Casman that’s an even better idea, would definitely give more control along with my comment of a bigger racing seat with a harness so you feel more secure While driving
@@stratosfever yeah, that's the same setup that racing karts use.
Thats how they come when you buy it. I want to see it this way :)
Use a marine push pull cable.
@Daver G don't need clutch to shift if you do it right. Also before they had to take their whole hand off, grab another bar and then back to the steering wheel. Having both hands still touching the wheel makes reacting to an emergency much easier
You should dress up like Luigi or Mario and drive that around
Exactly
Cringe
@@es2kaaay908 and
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I agree
Put the engine on the drag rail, it would be so much faster
You guys should put that engine on the rail. For testing purposes only.
Bitter End agreed
Exactly what I was going to say
Bitter End yesssssss. Was just about to say the same. Please guys, pleeaasseeee!
Rail wouldn't with stand the power
Audrey Posey thats okay. They are fabricators for a reason
put that motor on the drag rail.... now that makes more sence
I second that
*Sense*
I third that
brad ornat thinking that
Yep
Obviously you need to take it to a paved lot preferably a road racing track and bang that thing trough the gears and of course video it and upload to Tube! Crazy!
I want to see that 900cc motor ons the drag rail and then you must take it to the trak
Take it out to the speed run area, dress up as Mario and Luigi and ride it at moderately unsafe speeds. lol!
Haha
LMAO
Yes drag rail vs ducati! Ike vs (forgot the other guys name...) But this would be gr8. Don't put the ducati on the drag rail. Let them be there own go karts!
This! Do this!!! 😈
I wouldn't mind taking it down the 1/8th, but not keen on the 1/4.
If it were mine, I'd extend the wheelbase out some and at least 6" wider, and putting some larger diameter and wider slicks on it, and potentially a roll cage.
Just to give people an idea on how insane this thing is. Let's just be conservative and say driver + kart is 400lbs, at 80HP that's a HP to weight ratio of 0.2. A Veyron is around 0.24 A stock Corvette C5 is around 0.1. The closest car I can find without tons and tons of digging and this is fitting... The 2017 Dodge Viper SRT and that is 0.19. So this kart is in the same power to weight range as a Viper. Anyone that has ever driven a Viper should be able to relate here.
Now if by chance the kart and driver is closer to say 320 lbs which I am thinking would be about right, then it's closer to 0.25 so better than a Veyron.
AHHHH WWWOOORRDDSS
Right on! They won't set it up for the 1/4 tho. It will take a lifetime to perfect. Longer wheelbase and the engine should be mounted in the middle on top of the axle for maximum acceleration.
Also with nitrous, a tune, alchlohol, and springs and cam it would be up to par with f1 cars!
@@VasilyBuilds Yeah I am sure they wouldn't take it down the 1/4.
As for mounting it in the middle? The wheel base would have to be extended quite a bit to do that properly. You really don't need to, just need to get the weight balance about right while sitting in it. Get a few bathroom scales put one under each tire get in it and move the engine and seat around until the back rear tires are close to being equal and that should cut it.
Definitely need to widen the track as well it should be a little more stable and with the wider track you can fit wider tires.
Now as for getting it on par with an F1 car? I assume power to weight ratio? Not including Kers an F1 car is around 0.47. To get about equal to that the kart would need to have around 190hp if total weight is 400lbs or about 152hp if it's about 320lbs. That's quite a bit of power, if they think it's scary now, with that much it would be insane.
Well with this mindset they will just end up building an Ariel atom that’s far from street legal... I’d keep it as a go kart and make the power more useable. Improve the design rather than make a whole new one
You guys are freaking nuts. 26 years ago I had a bad go kart accident. It changed my whole life, since then there have been so many bad decisions and so many regrets.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
So it wouldn’t get run over by Ike
Lol
Lmao
Thought I was the only one afraid that the chicken was gonna get hit
😂😂😂
Ok
I think if that engine was on the rail the rear axle would break the vtwin you guys had on it was awesome but the ducati would be mental...I am all for this engine on the rail lol
the axle would snap. it could barely hold the 670 even as it is with the flexing
Or put a snowmobile engine on it
My suggestion.......remove engine and attach it to the drag rail.
I agree
We need to see this happen
They would half to strengthen the rail. Especially the axles. That engine would snap everything like tooth picks
@@jeffreymrrs150 an axle thicker than an inch could hold up to it. And they could likely do a driveshaft and chain system similar to the hot rod cart
Definitely replace the sand rails engine with this one
So we're on lockdown now in 2020 and this has been suggested to me... *goes to eBay to look up kart frames*
I bought 2 for 500 birel/margay
Go look on offer up too
@@delanosheffield3946 I'm in France, so not sure what offer up is, but actually find most my stuff on facebook groups or ebay at the moment! Just got the second kart build on our channel! They're such fun. Maybe one day I'll have a bike engine too 😎
Just bought 3 mini bikes and an old yerf dog go kart 😅😭
*SEES PREDATOR 420CC ON SALE AT HARBOR FREIGHT*
This thing is faster than the drag rail
well, the drag is broken so the monster truck is faster atm.
MR SK1LLFUL of course but if the drag rail was working the the cart is way faster
Everyone says "put it on the drag rail" but I say no. I want to see the drag rail vs the ducati. And I want to see both of these guys on the screen at once instead of having them take turns on who's riding and who's holding the camera. It'd be cool to see them race each other.
@@Yung_Hefty lol u can't be serious that ducati is better than that 670 could ever be there is only 1 way that 670 could beat the ducati and that's if it broke
Drag rail!
I dig your guy's videos because you try to have a project working before the end of the episode unlike some other channels that never finish a project, cheers. This Ducarti is RAD!
Other channels dont get support so they either dont finish it Orrr they dont post about it. Why post if noone cares.
The drag rail would be perfect for it
Use me as a “Top speed test” button.
No
airbus_737 do you want them to die?
boing made the 737 idiot not airbus
I knew that. I just like it that way :)
airbus_737 511 oml
Put that motor on the dragster and make that dragster look like something real
Take it down the drag strip 😎
john matthews that’s also what I’m thinking
the frame is too small
Like I said yesterday put A Motorcycle engine on that rail ..... No more stupid little engines👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Its too big otherwise I'm sure they would
dude have you seen the 670?!?!?!. that ducati engine is like the same size if not smaller just in a different packaging/ style
@@Hermiwalle I mean they have said in video it's too wide to fit on the rail and the kart is a one of a kind being there 2 reasons they wont put it on the rail maybe they could use like an old Harley motor but as I say that I think that might be too big for them as well
They said the axle on the dragster cant take anymore power. It will take some more modification to make that happen.
@@kyleglenn4893 to be fair -just about- every single thing they make is one of a kind soooo.....🤣🤣
Hol up... the 670 is seized... and the Ducati has 20 more horsepower... stay with me here... *put the Ducati on drag rail*
THIS FOR SURE!! :D
He already said they didnt want to do this I think
NOOOOOOO!!! They just need to buy a new engine for the drag rail. Because I want to see the ducati kart drag race against the drag rail. Otherwise what's the point of having a drag kart if there isn't anything WORTHY enough to drag race against it???
They also said they don't want to put the ducati engine on the drag rail because it's one of a kind. Just like the drag rail should be, one of a kind. And instead of watching one of them drive a kart at a time wouldn't you want to see them race each other with the drag rail vs the ducati???
They said countless times that they won't put it on the rail, because that engine is 4" too wide
This was 3 years ago! Crazy how far you guys have come since then! Keep it up
I realize that the rail was built to advertise for all the 670 speed parts, but have they been all they were purported to be? Not really- the engine seized on the first pass. The consensus here is to put the Ducati mill on the rail.. I tend to agree. Would it be a huge benefit to install an automotive rear end and drive shaft in place of the live axle? Those whipping multi-staged chains scare the hell out of me. A real diff would give you the added benefit of larger, stickier rear tires as well.. Real slicks, anyone?
I’m with everybody else, More power than 670, Put it on rail plz.
The current rail isnt up to the task. Rather not watch them kill themselves on a rail that is not built for the power and speed.
They've addressed this before, the rail isn't structurally sound enough to handle 80hp.
It will be nutty but fun
@@MegaFPVFlyer
The 670 that's already in it makes probably the same amount of torque...
@@SoI_Badguy Sure, it might not crack in half as soon as they open the throttle, but that roll cage would be absolutely useless if something happened and the rear wheels locked (or got covered in oil) on the big end. I think the real reason they don't want to do it is that those kinds of speeds are starting to venture outside of "fun" and into "stupidly dangerous."
Regardless of whether it's possible or not, they've very clearly stated that they're not going to do it.
Next project: LS Swap-Cart
LS SWAP EVERYTHING!!!
Random Channel dair you to Ls swap a rx7 and take it to a car show
@@crazymessedupcollaboration8921
Rotary swap a Corvette
how about a vette cart?
Ls everything xD
You Guys Are "OutStanding in Your Field" ! ! !
You put many other enthusiasts to shame.
Great Job !
The fact that it's sketchy and way overpowered is exactly the reason it's so cool & interesting!!!!!!!!!😀
Well said!
This is fake
Put the Ducati on the rail swap the engines around make the rail do quarter mile quicker
That rail is to big for that transmission
@@driveitbreakitfixit7496 your name says it all #fullsend
Yes!
drive it break it fix it no it would be fine
Put it one the drag railYou specifically said you wanted to wait till the 670 blew up before you put a new motor on it
The gods have spoken. The 670 is dead! Long live the Dragati!
Videos like these make me go on Craigslist
Make this the drag rail guys
Put the Ducati on the rail please that would be so cool
can you guys please say what rear sprocket you used on the axle? i am building a gsxr1000 kart right now and am having gearing troubles.
can everyone please like this so they see?
thanks
Chunky Smith how do I know this isn’t a scam?😑
you think im not building it? if i wasnt why would i ask?
I really hope it turns out well!
@@chunkysmith6442 how's it coming
How’s your cart coming along
The fact that you guys built something that is totally unreasonable and totally unsafe that you can’t even use it to its full potential is absolutely amazing and imma have to do the same thing.
Put the ducati engine on the rail Just do it you guys can make amount were you don't have to modify the original mount that's already on their for the 670 you basically can just swap engines out
And they already said that they don't want to do that because the ducati is one of a kind
@@Yung_Hefty they didnt say that the ducati was "one of a kind" as a reason for not putting it on the rail. the reason why they wont put it on the rail is because the axle would snap if they did put the ducati on it. didnt ye see the video before with them testing out the rail on the fixed 670? they said they wont do it and they showed footage of the axle flexing with the 670 on it
Yes ducarti on the rail, hands down!!! Be the best of the best, talk bout 8.98, be more into the 7s
Think bout 670 is clapped for now, so slap the ducarti on there call it the ducarti rail
Yeah it would be awesome to see the Ducati on the rail all they would have to do is put a bit more support for the axle as it had a bit of flex even with the 670 so if they could put support right to the back wheels or thicker axle and proper covers over the moving parts inside the driver's cockpit and then call it the Ducati Death Rail
Loose Screw Laboratory you said in past vids that the axel can’t handle it get a new axle that can
@@timmytimmerman4334, that would be Matt's madness that said the axle would break, scroll down lol,
they put in all that work on that frame, no way!
Put it on the drag rail with jr dragster slicks
short wheel base + slick tires+ 80HP+ crazy light weight = D.O.A.
These kind of videos I'd like to see more, this makes engineering looks great. As a kid it looked so boring that I never did, but by watching it now it's like way too much fun! I'm 24 years old now, so who knows? Really nice video
wow its finally here. so proud. I had a bit of a disagreement with some of the fellow subscribers about the drag rail project.. this kart is a fine piece. wish the engine was on the drag rail but hell ill take it. nice job. fantastic.
PUT IT ON THE RAIL!
You guys have me in stitches most of the time between the 900 Ducati and 750 Honda 750 carts. Stay safe and keep the videos coming.
Yup, still the best channel on TH-cam.
danbbb 👍👊
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Cause Ike was coming in hot on the Ducati kart 9:13
B-rad1storlast 😂
You guys should take that thing to the drag strip
Yeah, for Once. Last. Ride.
Wait, I thought they did? For the TV episode.... It ran a 8.98 in the 1/8th with major traction issues
Ive seen you two take alot of test rides and thrash rides... but never have i seen you guys both in shock/fear/lost for words than i have after this ride. lol. pretty funny actually.
But welcome to playing with big boy toys!
You guys respected the hell outta that machine, where most people would get themselves in alotta trouble quick
Cheers to you two and all the awesome vids and please continue more with this one especially!
You can see the comments are piled up to do what I’ve asked you to do so many times for so long is to do the obvious. You guys are driving me nuts with procrastinating, you know you’re gonna.
take the ducarti to a empty parking lot, or a area with little to no obstacles and try to see how fast you can get it before you have to back off, also try and fix the traction issues so its a little bit less of a death machine, but i'd really like to see more of this cart
Put that engine on the rail!!
Man oh man! Are these guys having fun and "living the life" or what! Subscribed!
Put the ducati on the dragster like if you agree
Yes yes yes
Ike's boss:Hey, the lever is gone! How are we gonna do this?!
Ike: It'll be fine.
Death wish. Put the ducatti on the rail with a better stronger drive system. Or build a cart with a cage. Crazy crazy crazy!
seeing you guys build the paddles in slightly more detail then Grind hard P.C. is a huge help in a build I'm working on. Cheers mates.
Why won’t you guys give the fans what they want and put the Ducati motor on the drag rail, you have a drag frame and a high hp motor, where is the disconnect here guys.....
Maybe their sponsor doesn't want to have the fastest kart lose their powerplant.
Mike Tymchuk maybe the sponsor should step there game up and supply a better power plant then
sponsor issues and they would have to heavily mod and change the rail to make it work
spacey bard no they wouldn’t
@@Starshipstoner There's no way to build that 670 for anything close to the Ducati. The predator engines will only ever make so much power
Take it to the strip and make people want to sell their drag cars
Agreed.
I ageed to
Great job guys, might be a good idea to add a 2nd caliper to rear axle to help brake that monster, also a different set of pedals might just make it more comfortable to run it at higher speeds and some kind of nose to keep anything away from the pedals, man I ( as a 56 year old man) would love a chance to drive such a wicked machine as that, racing stock cars is my thrill but to be at those speeds 2 inches off the ground must really feel special...show us more of the "death Ducarti" :)
Never did stock cars did have the opportunity driving for a man who had drag boats and tractor pullers. I also ran the mud bog circuit for several years. And have raced the frontier and mint 400s.
But that was decades ago. My biggest thrill on four wheels now is my street legal Supercar powered by a Honda supercharged cbr1000rr. Around 230 hp.
I Designed and built from the ground up. Chromoly frame cage. The front of the body looks similar to a GT40 the back is a fusion between a vet and a couple other supercars. 12.4 ' long 70" wide 1O80# ) After working the body out in wood, I vacuum formed polycarbonate. Leaving a nice smooth form for handlaying the colored carbon fiber. The cost of the body was under $1,500. It is four-wheel independent with decent travel and bags.
50% of the roads in our area are dirt just going and coming from the ranch is 8 miles of dirt road. but when out on the pavement I can drop it to within 4 in.
I plugged the engine into a Corolla all-wheel drive limited slip transaxle. I have 36 gears, or six speeds with six gear ratios to choose from depending on need. Using Corolla hubs and rotors as well. (Over built)
Of course that front wheel drive transaxle is in back. And what would have been the rear diff is in the front.
Back to your statement. That feeling of flying 4 in off the ground at 190+. It's exhilarating and terrifying. Specially with the four-wheel drive hooking up in the corners.
And when using high gear just cruising on the interstate, it's 40+ mpg.
Cost of the build was under $4,000.
looks, drives, and handles like a supercar. But cheaper than a buy here pay here car.
Gee retirement is fun!!
Let that be an inspiration for your own build. I'm 71.
@@Ozarkprepper643 you better have a video of it on your channel after reading your comment. I need to see that hell hound of a car
@@Ozarkprepper643 no vids or pics of it wtf. Make a video or picture slide show asap 😂❤
this dude was going absolutely balls out i give him props for giving us what we wanted
Does anyone else find the sound of their tools hitting the floor satisfying...?
No it annoying
Take that Death Machine to the track and see what she will do in the quarter mile....Then swap that motor into the rail and Go Faster 😳🤪😁
You guys need a chain guard on that because if that snaps your arm and shoulder will be hurtin something bad
Or if your jacket gets caught with a gear...
I had a buddy with a guard and when the chain broke and hit me it hurt something fierce. I can’t imagine how it would be without a guard.
Gold chain don’t break
At 11 minutes in his friend called it all off his test buddy scared him going the complete lap . That was a great finishing & fast lap. Great run. 🎉👍
Put it on the rail it deserve it killed the 670 need that 900cc beast
Suggestion - Three wheeler. The front end from a kart (from the seat forward), with the back end of a mini bike. (Maybe play around with different rear tire sizes and widths. )
Reverse trike. I been wanting to build one for years. Front end of old mini atv and rear end of mini dirtbike. Then you left with a rear end of a atv and front end of a mini dirtbike for other projects.
Holy crap that thing is insane!
I suggested that you put on paddle shifts on that cart a long time ago but a year ago I'm glad to see you guys finally did it that thing looks to be working suite keep up the good work guys love those videos keep it up
you guys should take it to the drag strip
Drag rail ducati and a good time to put a parachute on it for fun.
Would probably need one if the motor was on the rail in a decent rolling chassis and racing wheels/tyres with full pro safety features(at least all round racing disc brakes what with that power to weight ratio).... and ALWAYS a Professionally made ROLL CAGE.... a basic carbon fibre made one could meen staying alive longer... living is more fun than being dead... add a racing bucket seat with full racing harness and only then would I give it the full bollocks on a strip.... respect
Boys.....I just thought of an immortal being who possibly has the courage to wring that thing at a drag strip, and who would create the best collab ever.....*drumroll*.....COLIN FURZE
Great idea that guy is a dare devil
Oh yes contact him please
Dude i dont think we could handle that combination!!!!!!!!!!
My son offered to run it at Bonneville. I wouldn't call him a "dare-devil" though. Even "insane" would be a weak description of him. More along the lines of "Bat Shit Crazy" I'd say. He and his brother took the extra engine for the drag boat and somehow wedged it into a Honda Civic and took it out too the flats. A car that weighed no more than a popcorn fart with a blown, alcohol injected, all aluminun, 468ci Rodeck in a Civic. We have no idea what the thing would do. A mile and a half in, at 160, it started to disintegrate. Literally. The hood came off then the left front fender abandoned ship just before the plexiglass wind screen came in on him. He decided that it was a prudent time to lift. But he got 160 and wasn't in top gear yet. When we got down to where he'd finally come to a stop, after picking up car parts along the way, he figured he duct tape everything back in and try it again the next day. My daughter-in-law, upon hearing that, told him in no uncertain terms that he had two choices. Either "put the damned thing back on the trailer and go home, or find a good divorce lawyer in Monday morning". He's still married, but she hasn't quite, got him fully reigned in yet. She found a baby carseat out in the shop that had a custom frame under it complete with go-cart tires and wheels and a chainsaw engine. Needless to say, he's not allowed to be alone out in the shop with my grandson anymore.
YES.
when ike or john is scared to drive something you know it's fast
BRING BACK THE FLAMETHROWER HEARSE!!!!
And rebuild the coffin kart. But better this time.
Use a BMX style "Detangler" for the cables 😎
Trent Nell i doubt they have enough throw to put it in gear but idk
@@thad0519 I agree and don't know, but that could be fixed with a linkage to adjust the ratio.
They aren't going to put it on the rail guys, the axle on the rail can barely handle the 670 let alone that motor, plus they're terrified of that motor to begin with...unless they put a bigger axle on the rail like they already should do...but whatever.
I had a ducati monster 900, best sounding bike of all time!
You guys should strengthen the frame on the dukarti, build a roll Cage, and put a slower ratio rack and pinion on it, and find a Harley Davenson Vrod engine to put in the rail
It sounds wicked af!!👍🔥
Love it... getting old seeing everyone say "put it on the rail!!" Clearly no one has heard yall explain over and over of why y'all can't. I personally love the rail as is anyways.. and I forsure don't wanna see yall chop it into pieces just to stick the Ducati on there... as far as you'd have to go to modify the rail you're better off building a whole separate rail... then you'd have TWO of them... then everyone would be happy (I think)
definitely, and I'd put the Ducati engine over the rear axle behind the driver too.
See, this one makes sense. Rebuild the 670 woth a beefed up oil pump. There is too much history and work put into both the rail and the Ducati kart to hack em up.
Personally I'd like to see that second rail setup to hit the sand drag strip at busco beach.. put some paddles on it and all. In sure theres smaller sized paddles they can find that'd normally go on a smaller/youth size quad. Would be perfect for such a machine.. had that on the brain ever since they took the rail there. That would be badass.
I love these guys, they don't know what a box is. Monte Alex and I were like that back in the early Seventies.
10:47 hens like 'WTF they doing', then 'oh these two fools are just mowing with a Ducati powered go kart, everything's fine'
It did a baby wheelie! 9:13
I closed my eyes when you started welding around 5:15 lmao
You guys are 2 wild n crazy fabricators! I love it! Please Be careful n try to keep the rubber side down!
*So basically, my gocart sounds like a Ford Mustang*
Hell no a desmo engine don't sound like those shits. I had a 900 ss cr and my bro has his legendary 748. Don't you dare say that. I also have 3 Ford truck motors sitting in the backyard broke now from Engine swaps we've done. They suck ass man
@@U2Jaime1317 its a joke
@@prematuredgravy8033 no. I'm pissed
@@U2Jaime1317 ok?
@@prematuredgravy8033 I'm gonna go kill someone now
9:40 that chain looks really unsafe
Shouldn't you be knitting a sweater, grandma?
It’ll be fine
Well Now... Install some Sport Quad Wheels and tires , And Maybe a New Frame lol!!
good idea!
Like the rail 2.0
StarPuss
Stretch the frame about 8 inches, move the driver forward and put a larger final sprocket on it. Those things done, it would become a real beast.
The sound alone makes me smile.