9th Edition | Getting started with Imperial Fists
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- This is a successor video following on from 8th Edition 'Getting Started with Imperial Fists', I wanted to make a video explaining starting an Imperial Fist army for 9th Edition, everything I talk about in this videos is my personal opinion.
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Let me just say again, this is my personal thoughts on the matter, I’m 100% sure that there is better ways to play it via meta but I want to focus on more of an Infantry based force for 9th, hope it helps 😃👍🏻
In the Second Millenium - Valrak existed. He build up an army out of Astartes. Out of Imperial Fists - the praetorians of Terra. And this great army was called "Army"
bit of a long shot. but the chap at 12:52 is his helmet custom made or from a kit? im only just getting back into the hobby after like 12 years out lol it looks awesome and just interested thats all :D appreciate any feed back off anyone
@@themanofthenorth7805 That's a custom sculpted helmet, mate :)
@@ChapterMasterValrak it looks great! i used to collect astral claws/ tyrants legion so i very much enjoy lion iconography :D
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Getting started with Imperial fists:
- 1 captain
- 2 lieutenants
- 1000 intercessors
Need more Intercessors 😂
@@ChapterMasterValrak yeah all the intercessors especially the Heavy variant
Brother, I think you require even more Intercessors to reinforce the position. My Chapter and our allied Chapters offer another 4000 Intercessors to your cause.
"Only in death does duty end"
*1000 bunkers
You forgot three Redemptors.
The new blood Angel's patrol boxset is actually a very good imperial fists start collecting I would get that if you guys are starting
Even the upgrade sprue is kinda useful there. For the chainswords anyways.
Great box, just not for Blood Angels.
The Dark Angels one is really good for Blood Angels, seems they got it all wrong! 🤣
I hope we get an Imperial Fists patrol box
After being a little more focused on meta and competitive play a few years ago, nowadays, I feel a lot more satisfied with friendly games and representing the lore of something on the tabletop. Not to say that anyone who plays that way is wrong, everyone is entitled to play how they like. But I've grown tired of meta and rules as of late, simply because they always change and I don't get as much enjoyment out of religiously sticking to them. I've come to prefer making things as accurate to the lore as possible, both in paint scheme and in gameplay. Like, I'll play my Iron Hands way different to my Black Templers for more than just the obvious rules difference. Or, I'll avoid taking chapter masters in those armies because there's no real way to represent their respective chapter masters well lore-wise. The same goes for chaos, little to no possessed in my Iron Warriors, but lots of obliterators and daemon engines. Even if the rules for those sub-factions are considered not as good, I still like to play them because of authenticity. I'm just more a lore nerd than a rules one. XD
Right on-
amen
Agreed. After 30 years, I prefer friendly games. I’m pretty much done with tournaments. I’ll play in local ones to help out my FLGS, but that’s it. I also prefer to run more fun and fluffy lists than meta based optimized lists. Especially when a rule can be interpreted a certain way to break the lore of a unit. Like White Scars being great with Dreadnoughts and digging in, Blood Angels having a RAW rule that make them the best gun line in the game, Ultramarines being the best with Flamers because of a stratagem...I’d rather play them they way they are supposed to be played.
Damn dude your painting game is on point. I'm not quite there yet but I'm getting better at it.
Thanks, brother
Being in America, this is a soothing distraction right now
I hear that!
Agreed
Same
Been doing lots of stuff with my new Fists for the new edition. This is a great inspiration for them!
Watching your imperial fists has made me wanta try a “killer bee” colour scheme
in big games my strategy would be to drop hammerfalls onto objectives get a big force of intercessors with a couple agressors to the mid board, use outriders to get the opponents objectives tanks and heavy intercessors for the back objectives and bladeguard and assault intercessors in strategic reserve to reinforce or counter anything big or any ambushes or shenanigens the enemy uses
You might have one army of Bobs The builder, and with them you build an amazing channel, amazing live streams that I love to watch during nurgles' plage.
Thank you and Im not bats
Raven guard are amazing
You had me until Raven Guard 👀
@@ChapterMasterValrak Vanish in the shadows...
Great video! I'm thinking about starting Warhammer 40k tabletop, and Imperial fists are on the top of my list for an army to play.
Great Vid Valrak. Food for thought as I look at building a 9th edition Infantry force
I just watched your last video like this. Love it!
Those shots of those models look fantastic! Best wishes!
Thanks, mate.
Awesome, I'm getting the indomitus box on Christmas so I'll paint those guys as fists.
I bought a Repulsor when they first came out, but have since chopped it up for conversion parts- now every time I see the Executioner version, I like it a little more. That big gun and turret on top just make it look so much cooler. I just gave all of my Primaris models (all the Marines from the Dark Imperium box, 10 Reivers, 3 Agressors, Redemptor Dreadnought, Apothecary, Librarian, and the original Chaplain) to my son-in-law, because I’m only focused on 30K and I have no use for them. I had just started painting after years of only reading the books/codices/lore, and I got caught up in the hype of something brand-new, so I ran out and bought the stuff as soon as it was released. Over time though, I realized that the Heresy was the part I enjoyed the most, so decided to stick specifically to era-appropriate armour and wargear. I do have to admit, I like the Intercessor armour, and a lot of the models look pretty cool. Some... not so much. Just not my thing. All that said, however, when I see your Last Wall force, it’s tempting to get some Primaris stuff again- you’ve really painted them beautifully. Sorry for the long comment, I just wanted to tell you what an awesome job you’ve done on them. Thanks for the video, and I hope that you and your family stay safe and healthy.
What do you guys think about my 2000p List ??
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Imperial Fists) [98 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++
+ Configuration +
*Chapter Selection*: Imperial Fists
Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Detachment CP
+ HQ +
Primaris Librarian [5 PL, 95pts]: 2) Might of Heroes, 6) Psychic Fortress (Aura)
Primaris Techmarine [5 PL, 110pts]: Chapter Command: Master of the Forge, Hand of Dorn, The Eye of Hypnoth, Warlord
Tor Garadon [7 PL, 145pts]
+ Troops +
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle
. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist
Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist
+ Elites +
Primaris Apothecary [5 PL, -1CP, 105pts]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter
Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
+ Fast Attack +
Inceptor Squad [6 PL, 120pts]: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant
+ Heavy Support +
Eradicator Squad [12 PL, 230pts]: Heavy melta rifle
. 3x Eradicator: 3x Bolt pistol
. Eradicator Sgt
. Eradicator with MM: Multi-melta
Gladiator Reaper [12 PL, 235pts]: Auto Launchers
Gladiator Valiant [13 PL, 260pts]: Auto Launchers, Icarus Rocket Pod
++ Total: [98 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++
This is great info
I'm a chaos player but after watching this I might need to make a imperial fists patrol detachment
I love how all the new art for marines but the old models at the back... really subtle greedworkshop.
Transports are really good to hold objectives valrak
Sit one on an objective and when it blows up let the minis inside hold the point longer
Hey, I'd love to see other Getting Started videos from you. Have you considered doing the same thing for Ultramarines? Cause I'd love to have some Reclaimers of Dorn army, just like Guilliman intended
Love the Imperial fists and your content on them and other dorn successor chapters, any advice for starting your own successor chapter army? Perhaps example combat patrols?
13:02 This is a gorgeous model. Any Tipps on how it was made? :)
Hey valk when are you doing " starting playing Minotaurs" stream as there your boys now 😂
Which Minotaurs, the dick bronze Spartans or ketchup and mustard berzerkers?
@@EungsuLee Honestly I'd love Valk to have to add either to his last Wall. Cosplay as Moloc confirmed 😂
@@GeoFire88
Oh, the bronze ones.
Kinda weird to think out of all other assholes those guys get to be confirmed as an actual loyalist IW.
@@EungsuLee yeah and my beloved space sharks just get to be outer rim emos. But atleast we got the better recommended chapter tactics
@@GeoFire88
Still better than outer rim Ultramarine with no flavor, but oh well.
I'm back playing 40K again after a few years break, this has been good to wrap my head around what's changed since I left the game. More interested in playing a themed army, I know many don't like the Firestrike Servo-Turrets but I do like them and in that first turn with Legacy of Dorn lay waste to your foes. It seems to me like 9th is about movement so they can be awful, but placed near/ on an objective it's hard for your opponent to take it.
Happy to hear any suggestions for a more themed army.
Also any videos for converting/ kitbash a Captain/ Chapter Master would be appreciated. 🔥
Everyone keep this in mind… The Vll is instrumental in holding the Imperium together during the bleakest of times with renowned stubborn resilience. Think about before you harking back to the days of Matt ward power gaming.
Are those your fists? Those look great!!!🤘
I think of my bolt weapons having bs 2+, so everything bolter is slightly better. Add the fact it's all about obsec, I'll field a lot of (heavy) Intercessors. Put 10-20 in a big block at the centre for board control with a captain, apothecary, scriptor.
Eradicators and Invader ATVs against tanks and the latter to grab objectives.
Supplement with 5 man Intercessors in Impulsors with bolt rifles for forward objecitves and stalker bolter ones for back objectives.
Fill with a counterpunch (I'll be trying out 10 asssault Intercessors with chaplain and chapter champion for 7" rerollable charge out of reserve followed by double-fighting with obsec)
I'm sure there are better configurations, but that's what I'll start with :)
What about a 50/50 primaris intersesors with assault bolter and Gravis heavy rifles in back taking the rear objectives and supplying fire support?
I've just started 40k and I'm starting off with Imperial fist. Bit nervors about painting yellow
That’s the #1 reason why I never started an Imperial Fists army- that damned yellow! Same problem with the White Scars, just substitute white. Do you use an airbrush? I’m not sure, but that’s probably a good way to paint yellow or white without it getting chunky- good luck!
@@tunguskalumberjack9987 no airbrush but I have a plan with rattle can and a yellow gloss varnish mix
@@tiswasthe1 That might work- good luck with it!
Wonderful Emperors Yellow Peril! Nice no fabulous.
What would you like in a combat patrol box set for the Fists?
Built a few Fists more so as a side hobby to my Admech for tabletop. Hoping one day to maybe swap over fully to Fists, but is there a way they could run together on the table?
Might be a bit optimistic to hope for Fist intercessors backed by Kastelan Robots as a firing line.
Getting a HH Rogal Dorn model, hope people let me play him as a Guilliman expy in 40k.
Whats the ablity ,that allows the red dread to keep the ballistic skill while moving?
Nice paint job
Going to use this for my crimson fist because they're technically the same, except crimson fist gain another ability
I’ve got a question: I want to soup imperial knights with fists and I have no idea what happens. What do I lose and what do you guys think I should add or take away?
With the minotaurs chapter being suggested as a imp fist successor in the imperial armour compendium how would you go about an aggressive imp fist army?
I wonder if the Imperial Fists will get their own Combat Patrol box and if so what it'd contain...
Going off the boxes listed so far probably some intercessors an upgrade sprue and probably a fortification to hide in.
Going off the boxes released so far it would probably be an invader ATV, some assault intercessors and outriders, and a Judiciar :D
What are you thoughts about using a couple of Rhinos to move up the board?
I'm planning on running Celestial lions (imperial fist successor). I wanted to use the two chapter tactics of +1 to hit on charge, and can fall back and charge. I want to use mainly first born marines since they haven't gotten the primaris reinforcements yet in the lore. I've been playing with the idea of an iron clad dread with hurricane bolter/seismic hammer. gets to hit on 3s on a charge and can benefit from bolter buffs that imperial fists give on the hurricane bolter. Any tips for this edition with that in mind?
Dude how sick does that guy look at 13:00 where is that helm from?
Sounds like Father Nurgle has a hold on you.
question for you master valrak, i am going with a custom company of the imperial fists and i got tor garadon i was thinking of having his gaurd unit to get the buff of his aura being agressors armed to the teeth with dakka your thoughts?
Any thoughts on using the assault intercessors with fists in 9th?
Do the IF tanks benefit from the exploding 6s too, if equipped with bolters?
where did you get the awesome lion helmet for your captain/chapter master
Are firstborn units viable now after the SM codex release? I like their aesthetics better.
I'm just getting into 40k and got myself the Indomitus box set. I know all the units are depicted as Ultramarines in this set but, would it be fine to make them all Imperial Fists? Not sure if some of the units are intended only for Ultramarines as I have no real knowledge about the differences in Space Marine factions with units used and what not.
Nice iron warriors army Valturabo.
recruiting on Dorn's behalf I see. You'll not tempt me with those sexy yellow power-armored super soldiers. No way!
Okay, maybe I'll buy one box of marines...
Aggressors can still advance & shoot btw, their bolt storm gauntlets are still assault weapons.
*This video is mega fortified*
Hey my Chapter Master? It’s me from the 3rd company again but, I come with a missive from the Captain, he says and I quote “For the love of Dorn can he stop giving us tanks and Intercessors? We have 50 sets of firstborn armor in the battle barge for Emperors sake!” He hopes you will consider this my lord.
I ain’t playing fists but I’m just wondering how did you do those bases?
Would auto bolters not be good on space wolves interccors too if it lets you advance and shoot i ask cause im New and i dont Know what to but on them 😅
If I were going to do a imperial army it would be an imperial fists and grey knights army
Feelin this
My Wolves are just a bunch of models, i dont really have a structured force
You probs do! Just haven’t spotted what it looks like yet😁
@@forgefartherloki6585 its mostly infantry atm so id have to ad a few things ^^
Not like its a rush, i didnt have anyone to play before Nurgle went crazy so ive been fiddlin with like 4 different armies :p
Rule of cool above all
@@RickardLejonhjarta the real question is which wolves because I'm building a force of luna wolves
@@krisblunden1642 mine would be the ones with the beards
If it were possible would you just take an army of executioner tanks?
I have done xD
@@ChapterMasterValrak should’ve known😂
Thanks for all the advice but I’m starting at 500 points at that smaller level do you think it’s still worth getting a Dreadnought
Im a new player in term of 40k is there a way I can play imperial fist rules but paint them a different color, kinda like a successor chapter?
Not sure if its been asked or not but where did you get your display case from?
Y'all shouldbtry out Battletech. The starting set is the price of å start collecting box, or you could try the 20$ starter box. Absolutely amazing game
Aggressors have _not_ lost the ability to Advance and shoot. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets are Assault weapons. They simply can't do it without the standard -1 for firing while Advancing. Seems to be a common, but unfounded misconception.
Sorry! I got mixed up, you are correct!
6:=8 whats that chapter? they look dope!
Hello Guys:
I'm interested in getting into the hobby, and Imperial Fists are one of the chapters i like lorewise
I was planning on doing a list of sorts (also ultra new on armybuilding)
But Here it goes: (Also i know that i need an HQ and a General, but open to options)
*10 Terminators (dunno what to do with them, but i feel that i need a 2x5 squads for close combat, maybe claws?)
*40 Intercessors (All with bolters/heavy bolters)
*Dreadnought (Heavy long range firepower and a claw/flamer for short distances)
*Tank (Land Rider i think it's called? The one that costs 470) (To shoot stuff far away from bolters)
Intended to be a 2000 Point army
So I have not played in many many years and now my teenage sons are wanting to get into warhammer so needless to say I'm building my imperial fist army again. So question is the combat patrol boxes worth it for starting a fist army and if so which one? If not anyone have a good list of what to start with? I don't want to spend and find out I screwed up.
im just bringing big guns that pretty much what im doing for my imperial fist i use to go infantry as dark angels , but i want to do something different
Everything is good to start an imperial fists army. Forever son of Dorn
Do you think normal Repulsors are worth running now?
Ah yes my favorite legion and primarch
At the 13 min mark how did you make that guy
would agressers make good artillery i dont mind the sitting and shooting but as long as i can put out some firepower agsint some deathgaurd and sisters of battle
I wonder if you will do one for 30k Scars at some point.
Btw, anyone interested in 40k White Scars, feel free to ask here.
How many points is this army/how much did it cost you?
I’m watching this video even though I already have 3500 points of the glorious sons of dorn, I don’t know why
have you ever considered using a unit or two of incursors, since they can be inrange of the enemy from turn one, ignore all cover and BS modifiers and have -1 ap in combat?
I'd say the infiltrators are better than incursors for snagging objectives as they have the bubble that stops people deploying close to them. At least for Imperial Fists. They get ignore cover from the chapter tactic still and auto wound on 6s. Losing the melee weapons is a shame though.
@@DT-ce1fb they only ignore light cover with the IF chapter tactic, incursors are also only 1 ppm more then intercessors, but can definitely see the benifit of infiltrators as well, deploy a squad of each on one flank and not sure who will shift them
Actually have thought about it, but the thing I want is more dakka, Auto Bolters are my life at the moment :)
@@ChapterMasterValrak but they both benefit from bolter discipline so they'll get double shots within half range or if they stayed stationary? so it'll be more dakka while the rest of the dakka moves up
I have a Blood Angels force already started. I have the Indomitus box set, and I'm getting tempted to switch to IF, this video is not helping lol! Anyone on the same boat? Not necessarily Blood Angels, though!
If you need an extra nudge waych baldermorts imperial fist stuff im waitibg for my yellow paimt
What chapter is that at 5:55?
Iron within Iron without!
New to 40k. What are heavy intercessor?
They aren’t available yet, but as the name suggests they are slower-moving intercessors with bigger weapons and heavier armour. The lore says there is no such thing as Primaris Terminators, so these are the modern replacement.
I am considering going Imperial Fist rather then Ultramarine for my army.
Noob heree. Been trying imperial fist's vs khorne berserkers. Haven't won yet
Would this also work for Crimson Fists ?
Crimson Fists get everything Fists get and some more.
Valrak! you're models are tasty bro!
Imperial fists, the only legion those Bladeguards actually fits in perfectly.
How don't they fit in other armies?
@@dacaptain842
A little too heavy on knights and Templar aesthetics.
The ever crusade-lovin Imperial Fists (Black Templars included) and more 'knightly' chapters (like the Howling Griffons) fits in nicely, but some others... Not quite so.
@@EungsuLee I thought the imperial Fists preferred to fortify the defences of terra not crusading but I see what sort of point you're making anyways dark angels could fit
@@dacaptain842
Dark Angels kinda work... If you kitbash some wings for the helms.
And now cos of forgeworld we should all paint the sons of dorn in bronze
Best way to start collecting Imperial fists is...to collect Iron Warriors instead ;)
Okay as a none native speaker the "arsenal" at 1:02 sounded like "in my arsehole"...
I'm sorry Chapter Master I shall repent now.
Sternguard veterans are king
1.) Buy Imperial Fists
2.) Add accessories for taste
3.) Add spikes and Chaos iconography
4.) Spray paint Leadbelcher
5.) Accept you're Iron Warriors really.
Mmm so pretty!
Getting started with Imperial fists:
-1- Stop drinking and/or being silly.
-2- Throw away the list you've started on.
-3- Make a Black Templar one.
-4- Purge/Rule/Win in the name of the Emperor (and yourself).
-5- Done. Thank me later.
"The best offense is a good defense"- Rogal Dorn, M41
Been re-reading the beast arises your fists aren’t actually that bad 🤦🏼♂️
Same here.
Sons of Dorn are the best Space Marines.
Free????
The secret is you start imperial fists, revaluate your life, and then play emperor's children