17 Things I Missed In The Shape of Water Trailer
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- Even more interesting facts about the trailer for Guillermo Del Toro's horror/fantasy/romance film The Shape of Water (2017).
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Way back in July I took a closer look at some things you might have missed in the official trailer for The Shape of Water and got some very thought provoking responses in the comments. I've been saying I was going to do a response video for a long time now, but with The Shape of Water set for release next week, it's definitely time to address some of those comments.
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Previously, I covered some things you missed, but in this analysis, I'll talk about what I missed, my favorite fan theories from the comments and debunk some of the mysteries that we debated in the last video, such as the possible Abe Sapien relationship, plagiarism allegations relating to the movie's similarities to The Space Between Us, connections to HP Lovecraft's The Deep Ones and much, much more.
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Synopsis: From master story teller, Guillermo del Toro, comes THE SHAPE OF WATER - an other-worldly fairy tale, set against the backdrop of Cold War era America circa 1963. In the hidden high-security government laboratory where she works, lonely Elisa (Sally Hawkins) is trapped in a life of silence and isolation. Elisa’s life is changed forever when she and co-worker Zelda (Octavia Spencer) discover a secret classified experiment. Rounding out the cast are Michael Shannon, Richard Jenkins, Michael Stuhlbarg and Doug Jones.
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CZsWorld what is the piano music from 1:00-3:30???
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She is a hybrid. Those marks on her neck are scales and she was found near the river. That will also explain how she can control the drops of water in the bus. Beautiful story about love, fear, and friendship...Lovely
I think the raindrops on the bus was a clue that she wasn’t fully human and that her connection with the creature wasn’t just a beauty and the beast situation but also they were both creatures and they were both beauty. When he heals her at the end and opens her Gills it was a way of saying she was literally a fish out of water the whole time and she was just as magical as the creature.
Juan Chavez Yes! Well said. I keep looking for the part in the movie where they say she was found in a river, though, as some articles state this, and I went "whaat?"
@@penelopedinkledongs.1481
When the bad guy is talking to them in His office! Her coworker tells Him that after telling Him She can't talk.
i see nobody speaking of the fact that Eliza IS ALSO AS CREATURE. she has closed gills that you can see from the very beginning of the film, she was found abandonned near a river, she got no voice, juste like Mister Fishman! my guess is that, the very first moment they were in the same room, Eliza was able to sense pheromones emanating from Fishman. she immediately feels the desire to mate, because they're (more or less) the same specie. the water bending power is just another proof that she IS a fishwoman. her powers and abilities were just dormant since she lives within humans.
I agree with you on this 100% I’m glad you also pointed that out .... i was explaining my theory to my brother but you explain it so much better!
haha, at your service, dude :D
You're completely right.. the point made in the film is that true love sees you for who you really are, even when you can't see yourself clearly...which is a fellow creature. She has gills, and she also eats the same protein (egg) diet as the creature, they both love music... there are many links.
When, in the bus window, water droplets appear controlled by Eliza, I imagine that she is tracing their movement rather than responsible for it. Water droplets will move according to air currents (think about when it's raining and you are in your car driving along). It is common for water to form a circular pattern of movement, especially near structures that distort the air stream (like on the driver's side window just behind the rear-view mirror). Just an observation.
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i figured it out. Eliza did not control the water because she got powers from the creature. those are her own powers. at the end the creature "turns" her scars into gills but they were already gills and he just reopened them. In the scene where striclan calls zelda and eliza into his office he reads their files and it says eliza was found by a river and that she is an orphan. ..... Eliza is a god just like the water creature. Like this comment if it makes sense
Jordan Rubin No it doesn't. They cut her voice box out. But being found by a river may explain why she loves water. If a child only memory is being in a pool of blood,they might have a interest in it.
you are right she is part fish, or part what ever the fish creature was, because notice how she was only able to be turned on sexually in the water, the bath tub masturbation scene, it is suggesting she is a also a creature of water, and she also needs to be in water to procreate!!
That would be my theory too. I would like to see the flooded bathroom scene again. How does Eliza breathe when she is under water? ? Did they insert a clue to the end of the movie?
@@joesmith201212 I think she has human but fish perosn DNA making her a hynrid
You mean a sea creature not god there's only one God.
Also you're saying of Elisa or Amphibian Man being gods contradicts the message of the movie about real love which is neither about treating people as tools nor worshipping them like gods nor being selfish.
I liked how Strickland at the beginning treated him like a tool of war, then at the end and after this Amphibian Man healed himself, he feared him but still not treating the creature properly by calling him "you're a god", so the creature killed Strickland in a gruesome way, "which is like him saying to Strickland "Shut your mouth and Die you coward jerk who doesn't treat creatures properly😠"
I really like the theory of her shoes coming off as she embraces the creature under water symbolizing her acceptance of living underwater, giving up her life on land, etc.
Look the meaning behind the shape of water is simple. Water has no shape and can take any form which is parrelled by the theme of love; suggesting there is no ‘shape’ to love, it comes in all different ways and anyone can fall in love with anyone, its whatthe heart desires, so this film is showing the similarity between love and water
You're correct, I just heard Him say that in a Behind The Scenes video!
I like how nobody is talking about the thumbnail stating that Abe's parents are a piece of neck.
Because Abe was found the Day Abraham Lincoln was killed so it doesnt work here
Just saw it. I took it as a love story with overtures about doing the right thing...remember they found her as a baby 'down beside the water'.
Ann Pane she has no many similaritys too Ariel from Disney too, that's she is the princess with out a voice and actually belongs in the water! That'd why she dreams about bein underwater in the start of the film!
Guillermo del Toro has been working on The Shape of Water since 2011. As someone who has seen both they're might be similarities but the themes and overall story arc are very different between the space between us !!!
Don't worry people. Guillermo Del Toro himself denied any connections to Hellboy with The Shape Of Water.
You should watch the movie before you talk about it next time... 75% of all those questions are answered in the movie plainly.
My thoughts exactly. How can you analyze something accurately from only a trailer?
Jared Graber guess what he made this before the movie was released stupid he made this video on the 3rd the movie was released on the 8th
Yeah I think we got that... but why do a movie analysis if you didn't SEE THE MOVIE
He made this before the movie was released. Look at the date.
that's dumb. don't defend dumb.
Ariël and the Princess without a voice passage.... mindblown
I think the creature gave her hydro kinetic abilities like the ability to control water and be underwater for an extended amount of time like in the scene where she kisses the preacher and I strongly believe that there is a Empathic connection between the to because in the trailer it said that the creature can sense a motion
+mario smith
Hydrokinetic might be one of the coolest sounding words ever.
I am very close to a couple of people who created The Space Between Us, and helped out one day on set. It was a special film project by young new film makers. There could be no way they knew about some big shot Hollywood director's idea before hand. They barely had any connections to big budget production houses etc. The team doesn't want money or claims to property, it wants recognition for it's achievements. If you're inspired by a movie, that's great! If it's an award winning short by a group of young, talented and enthusiastic people, that's even better! Just give them a nod, a shout out. That would mean the world to them personally and to their careers.
Chrizzie 78 get me a role in a movie
I agree! I know a guy who did special effects for the short film. The whole vibe is almost the same compared to The shape of water. I am curious if Del Toro did got inspired by the short film
I don't think del Toro knew about TSBU since TSOW has been in production for 5 years before it was released. That's way longer than the release of the former. Also, please watch the movie. The message and stories are completely different. Falling in love with a monster is not a new idea at all (e.g. Beauty and the Beast). In one of his interviews, del Toro even mentioned about making a story like this since he was 6 years old.
Meh. It's probably even better for a big name to realize 'oh crap. They did it first.' And then bankroll their next 5 projects with the settlement.
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Abe sapiens was not originally a ichthyo sapien but was a HUMAN scientist who, with his team, found a jellyfish like creature, experimented on himself eventually creating who he is today. He was found in 1978, the movie is set in 1961 and even if he is their kid that leaves them 18-19 years to raise him, he become a genius scientist and have years worth of experimentation in that timeline. It's virtually impossible, plus with the whole thing of abes name origin being that he was born when Abe Lincoln died says he was born at that time.
Crystalynn Clink yes but didn't Abe mention time travel ?
Sort of, Abe saw the incident that caused his transformation in the past as a spirit observer, his past self(who was still human) saw him.
About the shoe symbolism, I would also add my hypothesis that it can be part of an intended series of deviations of well known traditional fairytales:
- There's a deviation coming from Beauty and the Beast, Princess and the Frog and similar stories, since the "beast" or "frog" doesn't turn into a human;
- Speaking about outter looks, the "princess" is not meant to be a great beauty either in order to deserve the love of a river/water god (I personally find the actress really attarctive, but that's my personal taste. I'm just recognizing she's not into the physical stereotype of a great beauty);
- There's also the "awakening kiss" thing, which comes from Sleeping Beauty, Snow White and similar stories;
- As you pointed out, there's a referrence to The Little Mermaid due to the lack of the character's voice;
- But finally I'd say that the shoe comes from Cinderella. Because in this case the female character loses her shoe - and just one shoe, just like Cinderella - when she finally reunites with her prince in order to live happily ever after.
People should really research before they make a theory video. Like maybe look up Abe Sapien's origin story? He was a human that was turned into a "fish man" through an occult "experiment"
A god
Jack Grazer technically, yes, it was a "god" that created him, but an occult group are the ones directly responsible for his creation.
Sapien began his life as Langdon Everett Caul, a Victorian scientist and businessman who became involved with the Oannes Society, an occult organization who believed in life and all knowledge having come from the sea. After retrieving a strange jellyfish-like deity from an underwater ruin, Caul and the other members performed an arcane ritual that inadvertently ended with the creature's release and Caul being turned into an ichthyo sapien. Believing him to be Oannes reborn, the society sealed the developing icthyo sapien's body in a tube of water in the hidden laboratory beneath a Washington, D.C.. hospital until such time as he was fully formed. Forced to abandon the site by the outbreak of the American Civil War, the Society never found occasion to return for Caul, and there he stayed until he was found by workmen in November 1978.
With no memory of his life before, the icthyo sapien received a new name from a piece of paper attached to the tube, dated the day of Abraham Lincoln's assassination (April 14, 1865)
@@Mike_Toulon Are u just writing alot of stuff to make yourself look smarter?
@@justiny.imposter8603 He's explaining Abe's origins.
Where's my fellow Pisces?
I don't really care where he got the concepts or material-- he did a wonderful and artistic job of pulling it together. Deep and mystical, gave me much to think about, unlike any of the 'fairytale' versions such as Beauty and The Beast' which weren't my cup of tea, and I would have never been drawn to any of the other comparisons show in this youtube video. As long as those mentioned as plagiarizing their work don't speak up proving otherwise-- two things are among many possible -- there was an agreement, 2. the 2015 film copied the Shape of Water by someone leaking notes? I don't know, but I started a book 18 years ago I was told by an agent my story or concept had never been done, and to finish it. I stopped writing because of life and children and lost contact with the woman. I may finish it and discover in the last even 10 years similar books have been written even though i have not found any, but since my material has being shared, someone may have copied some of it. Does it matter to me, No, because it is needed on the planet now in any form it can be expressed. I just started finishing it 3 months ago as I was told it was timely for today, Although I believe18 years ago we had a chance to turn the planet around, I now believe it is too late, we have gone too far to the dark side. The Shape of Water was magical, meaningful, and beautifully executed.
The guy who played Abe in Hell boy also played the monster in the Shape of water.
Lj Davis so?
Yeah, and he also played the dude with eyes in his palms from Pan's Labyrinth. Your point?
When you said telekinetic power, I think it's probably hydrokinesis, the ability to control and bend water
CRIKEY !!
VERY SIMILAR, TO "THE SPACE BETWEEN US."
STILL LOVED IT THOUGH.
The bloody print is from the Merman eating the cat earlier.
Holy crap didn't expect to see me in the video. Really surprised me lol 6:51
Guillermo Del Toro is a huge fan of the original movie, "Creature from the Black Lagoon" so, I thought his inspiration was taken from that movie. I will say, you made a jaw dropping realization by bringing up the other movie, "The Space Between Us." I've never heard of that movie and I'm sure there's lots of people who haven't either. Thanks for pointing that out!
I want to see this movie.
Dude isn't the blood there cause he ate the cat. Okai I see he hasn't watched the movie yet psh
I just watched the movie so late, like this year only. I was thinking Elisa was a mermaid or a hybrid descendant of the asset. Great movie, wish I saw this in the theaters at the time.
I recommend that'The shape of water's as a movie to show us the normal and different our time it is that good🐳
Did anyone notice that somewhere in the film, there was mention made of Elisa being abandoned and left on the dock when she was a baby?
Mardi Gras (1958) and, The Story of Ruth (1960) are playing at the Orpheum Theater in, The Shape of Water (2017) - - - Quote from the Bible - - - Ruth 1:16 - - - But Ruth replied, "Don't urge me to leave you or to turn back from you. Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God." - - - in the movie, Mardi Gras, A military school cadet wins a date with a French movie goddess who happens to be the queen of the "Mardi Gras" parade and the two fall in love. - - - Two moves about Love and Commitment.
The theory about them being Abe sapien's parents although interesting, it's not possible because Abe was born the day Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, which was way before the timeline in this movie
abe sapien parents story wow i watch this
Del Toro was the executive producer for the movie Mama where talked openly about being inspired by a short movie with the same name. Thus I truely think he got inspired this time by another short movie, which is The Space Between Us.
@CZsworld have you ever done a top 10 personal favorite movies ?
Awesome video man. Keep it up.
They aren't Abe Sapien's parents. For one thing they are too young(this takes place in the Cold War era, Abe came around in the 1800s). Here is Abe's origin: a human scientist(or an occultist) finds a strange egg, he experiments on it, egg turns to dust, he has a strange spiritual experience, his body transforms into what is now known as Abe Sapien, and then he spent a large portion of time in stasis.
The man with the hair is her neighbor as the creature makes his hair grows back I looked it up
and he's gay
It wouldn't be shannons hand. If you look its the wrong hand to be wrapped up. Look at the thumb placement his opposite hand is the one that is hurt. Just saying.
my psychologist once told me about environments being similar as so thoughts, i guess i could leave it more like a fact than a thread of conversation
isn't the actor who plays Abe Sapien the same of the fish man in The Shape of Water
Dr.Yinny Kippz yes
and in fauno laberynth too
Yep.
Dr.Yinny Kippz Doug Jones.
Similar design but NOT Abe Sapien
Snap that’s some heavy stuff!
What if the design changes/time changes are just for Abe in the new Hellboy reboot?
Del Toro has stated publicly that one of his film influences is the fantasy film the Red Shoes, in which the heroine's shoes figure heavily in the plot.
I think the substance in the tub is the Scales of the creature that it has shed
Littlest Perrys ....
Littlest Perrys No it isn't. Have you seen the film?
I agree with you. These are his scales because as he gets sicker (in captivity) his scales are falling off.
The main girl from hellboy had the power of fire when angry. Therefore, in this universe, Eliza can most likely have some type of water control-to an extent. Her supposed scars are gills. Too much of this leads to Hellboy in my opinion. Whether el toro got rights to or not
Ripped off? maybe they bought the rights and made a higher budget version.
Not only are could the time linea be wrong, but Abe's actually back story would not line up with the theory of them being his parents, for those of you who have read the comics, you should know that
The shoes might be a nod to the Hayes Code.
The movie comes out on friday December 8,2017 for the shape of water.
The handprint of blood is from Pandora the cat, which whom's head he was eating before he ran off.
I thought it was like the short, The Space Between Us.
The "Amphibian Man" from the shape of water is same the same actor for Abe Sapien from Hellboy. Actor being is Doug Jones.
Who was also the Pale Man in Pan's Labyrinth, Pan in Pan's Labyrinth, and the Silver Surfer's body in the second Fantastic Four film.
In the Lovecraft mythos the fish people have telekinetic abilities and can give those powers to the humans that they mate with. They mate by pitting their fingertips together causing them to have some kind of trip and making the woman pregnant
This is an unrelated content question, but considering I've initiated conversations concerning this movie several times with people and have been amazed to find how un-mainstream it is, when you say this film is an "indie film" what do you mean? I think I've heard that title used in different ways so I'm not sure if indie films are referring to films that are popular and blockbuster (i.e. Transformers 2009, basically any Disney movie, the trend of Marvel movies, etc.) OR if "indie" means unpopular movies that a small group of people get super pumped for. This is a totally random question, but, considering how pumped I am and always have been about Abe Sapien, I would love to know. Thanks!
I'm pretty sure an indie film is an independent film, ie not tied into a studio.
I can understand people linking the shape of water to abe saline but realistically abe comes from an alternate universe from a comic series. It doesn’t have enough relation. I think that the face both movies had the same director will lead to some similarities of both creatures. Also abe sapient was once human but and experiment went wrong and caused him to become who he is x
I've just seen the shape of water online and now I want to watch hellboy after watching your video XD
I read the comment a bit and saw in your video how you were all trying to guess who made the bloody hand print and I was like I'm not giving spoilers I'm not gonna do it then I scrolled some more and saw that some people already spoiled that scene......
It was a good movie you guys will enjoy it :)
kiyiya wolf *where did you see it?* *I want to see it too!*
*which website?*
I watched it on 123movies just type in the movie on this site and you will see it 😊
The blood from the handprint is Pandora's, the cute, fluffy cat that the fishman eats headfirst
Thank you for your insights.
I’m so excited to see this movie
If you havn't seen it yet why would you ruin it for yourself by watching a spoiler video? I will never understand those that do it, other then those superficial people who read game/movie spoilers before hand to act like they are predicting events to their friends and fam watching with them.
dont waste your time
Saw it last night. Really a great movie. Definitely go to see it!
It's a must watch!!
Whom knows it's might be based upon a true love story. No thing would surprise me anymore.
He was a human scientists until he turned into what he is now after some type of ritual. He was sealed into a tube of water, with the date 14th April 1865 on it, in a laboratory hidden under a hospital in Washington DC. He then was found in 1978 by plumber workmen. Therefore Abe could never been the Asset because he would have still been undiscovered.
Abe and the Asset are also not the same species. Abe was once a human and turned into a fish man afterwards.
The Asset is a humanoid amphibious creature that was found in the Amazonian river.
The Shape of Water is not a prequel to Hell Boy nor does it take place in the same universe. They are both completely separate fictional worlds.
Just because both like eggs and classical music doesnt mean they have a connection. (Don't get me wrong, I liked both of the movies very much)
Hell Boy and The Shape of Water was written and directed by the same guy, Guillermo del Toro. He just likes the idea of humanoid amphibious creatures. He said it himself that those two movies are not connected.
I think this is the best way to describe it.
Saw the movie And someone talks about meeting a mermaid once. But, I cannot remember if it was Giles or Dimitri the scientist. But, there is this discussion about mermaids.
Donna Hibler The artist says he saw what he thought was a mermaid. Then he explains it was a monkey with a sharks tail attached
I have to say that even if there was plagiarism (Which I dont think was the case) the space between us got so much more popularity due to Shape of Water that no harm was done.
Could it be that the scars on her neck are protogills? She could be part mermaid.
Lisa Wintler-Cox
It was an idea pitched by hawkins apparently to include the scars, she was writing a story at the time of a woman that didn't know she was a mermaid.
More than little mermaid... it reminded me of the movie Splash with Daryl Hannah and Tom Hanks... the ending is so similar.
Gonna go eat long John's and watch this movie afterwards. Takin some tarter sauce to the theater to bate with.
After seeing the movie, all I could think of was how similar it was to the movie Splash, but again with the genders flipped, and a bad guy with an agenda. Ohhh and pouring salt into the bathtub!! AND the ending. It's Splash 2 y'all.
Raul Flores
The salt in the bath tub makes no sense, the creature was captured in a river not in the sea so why does the water need to be salty?
I actually thought it was a pre story for Abe.
The bloody hand print is a right hand the creep has his left hand injured. It was from the creature with the cats blood still on it's hands as it went into the theater.
I think "hellboy" and "shape of water" are connected as Doug Jones plays the characters of the show.
I guess the whole 'she was found next the river as a baby' and the 'scars' on her neck are actually gills is something a lot of people missed. Listen to what they say about the creature. He has the ability to breath in and out of water. Elisa is half human half creature, she would've reverted to her human form from being out of the water for an extended. I hate it when people do speculations when they haven't seen the film just to get people to watch their youtube channel.
I’m sure Del Troro had this 💡 way before the space between us
Go watch his interview with jimmy Kimmel and guillermo el toro said his movie was inspired by a movie he saw 46 years ago
Brown Televisin yeah it's called The Creature of the Black Lagoon. Everyone knows that.
Yep
Jesse12489 yep
The bloody handprint was from the creature. He had blood on his hands after eating the cat's head and scratching Richard Jenkin's character.
Everyone’s talking about how he’s Abe’s dad or granddad but what if he’s Abe sapians son?
About Russian link: Aleksander Belyaev wrote a novel The Amphibian Man (published 1928) which was adopted in a Soviet movie The Amphibian Man in 1961 th-cam.com/video/q1c4UEfAEjo/w-d-xo.html with huge sucess. The story: An Argentinean doctor gives his son a life-saving transplant - a set of shark gills. Thus he is able to live under water, but must keep his secret from the world. The conflict arises from his falling in love with a pearl-fisher's beautiful daughter. His secret is discovered and the girl's stern father attempts to exploit Ichthyander for his ability...
They both love eggs! that was the biggest clue. The similarities are to similar.
It's called hydrokinesis (her developing powers, that is)
Also the symbolism of the colour green in this movie is interesting. First the drawing/painting that Giles does of the red jello that they want him to change to green, then the key lime pie he eats and stocks up on in his fridge, then the green jello that Strickland's wife makes, the green candy he is obsessed with eating, his car's whole green/teal debate. A lot of green.
1:50 they aren´t "developing" him though, he was found and taken to the facility to be studied. Actually in the area he was found it was believed that the creature was a deity, a god.
Which shows that both people in his original area and the people of the cold war didn't treat the Amphibian Man as "Creature". Not until Elisa being the first creature to treat him like what he is.
All of this is a part of the moral of the movie about the real meaning of love
I love this movie so much
Yo it would be cool if hellboy would be connected with shape of water tho y noticed the time line but still
She may have gotten the power to control water from having sex with the creature
He is Abe ;-; I refuse to believe otherwise
Yeah people said that del toro copied the idea from films if he did JUST GET OVER IT plagiarism happens everyday I can't say he did copy anything but get over it cause at the end of the day it's still going to be a great movie
Hellboy comics: Abe used to be human and had a different name. He doesn’t remember being human nor the collaborated plan with his old buddies to change him into a fish man.
SanFranGirl1982
The fish man could be one of Abe's old colleuges that is further along in the transformation, Abe was confined to a tank for years.
Hmm... honestly despite the possibility of plagiarism. Both movies are pretty amazing
It can’t be he was born the same day president Lincoln died
In Del Toro's defence, he had the idea for Shape of Water for years.
isn't Abe sapiens..... only is about a Guillermo favorite movie when he was a child about a water creature.. only that and he want to do this movie based on those creature that don't have any relation with hellboy
She didnt steal the floating mixture in the bath. The dr gave it to her in the box.
The scientist gives her the solution and the bloody hand print is the creatures after he scratches Richard jenkins
Just found this vidio and wanted to say that they can't be Abes parents. Abe was a human who mutated into a fishman so the asset could be Abe himself as he's as Abe has extended life and was a fishman since victorian times
I thought the bloody handprint came from the creature because he kills the cat before rushing out. His face is bloody when Eliza finds him in the theater and if he was just eating a cats head his hands may be bloody too.
Haileigh Methven exactly
Maybe the new hellboy movie is a sequel to The Shape Of Water and this creature is going to be the Abe Sapien charicter...but who knows
I have read the script (yes THE script) and I don't want to correct you on some things like the bloody hand print and give away spoilers ;-)
That creature reminded me of Hellboy ..there was a water creature there same like this creature.
I thought the shape of water was a book before hand?