33 Things You Missed In The Shape of Water Trailer

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  • A closer look at some things you might have missed in the trailer for Guillermo Del Toro's horror/fantasy/romance film The Shape Of Water (2017), in theaters December 8.
    In this analysis, I'll break down some of the unnoticed details in The Shape of Water trailer, examine the possibility that this film is connected to Guillermo Del Toro's Hellboy universe and address the rumors that this film's creature is related to The Creature From The Black Lagoon (1954).
    Could this creature be Abe Sapien from the Hellboy movies? Is this secretly a prequel? Or is this creature from The Amazon? Is this a sequel? Stick around to the end of this video to find out.
    Synopsis: From master story teller, Guillermo del Toro, comes THE SHAPE OF WATER - an other-worldly fairy tale, set against the backdrop of Cold War era America circa 1963. In the hidden high-security government laboratory where she works, lonely Elisa (Sally Hawkins) is trapped in a life of silence and isolation. Elisa’s life is changed forever when she and co-worker Zelda (Octavia Spencer) discover a secret classified experiment. Rounding out the cast are Michael Shannon, Richard Jenkins, Michael Stuhlbarg and Doug Jones.
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  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    🔗 Check out the new video 55 Things You Missed In The Shape of Water: th-cam.com/video/rgpq6Cpip_k/w-d-xo.html

    • @145752411
      @145752411 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      what about Dark Universe? they confirmed that they will have the universe of all universal monsters. and i think that Guillermo del Torohe is the expert of the horror movies and can be the best director for the movie the Creature from the black lagoon from Dark Universe.

    • @polishherowitoldpilecki5521
      @polishherowitoldpilecki5521 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      9:21 it was Ben-Hur i think.

  • @skylerkuhn5898
    @skylerkuhn5898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    The shoe thing is probably symbolically related to Pisces, the zodiac sign of the fish. Pisces rules the feet, so the shoes will probably symbolically tie into that. Pisces is known as being a sign of dreams and escapism, among other things. This is definitely a Pisces themed movie, if it weren't already obvious lol. Im pretty excited for this. Pisces stories are p interesting to me.

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Genius! And here I thought astrological signs were a waste of time...

    • @skylerkuhn5898
      @skylerkuhn5898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Astrology is the basis of every trope both in real life and fiction. Both classical and contemporary stories use these tropes. Check out the book "Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell. It breaks down the psychology of story telling to reveal that every narrative is actually the same story, the same myth. Pretty interesting stuff. Del Toro usually goes pretty hard with the visual metaphors so his movies are both visually enticing as well as really easy to figure out with very basic esoteric knowledge.
      For example- This is obviously as romance movie, but with a fish? Pisces is a water sign, and water represents intuition and emotions. "I like long walks on the beach" is a cheesy fantasy date trope but it exists for the same reason. Emotions, love, water.

    • @skylerkuhn5898
      @skylerkuhn5898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I typed up a long reply about why astrology is the foundation of every story, both classical and contemporary, but i think i deleted it before posting by accident lol. Basically, if you want to find out what a story is about, just learn basic astrology and esoteric symbolism. Every thing from Marvel/DC to the Matrix to Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, The Odyssey, Shakespeare, Hunger Games, even the Bible- Its all just zodiac tropes being rearranged to teach us lessons through entertainment.

    • @bifoclemoss2028
      @bifoclemoss2028 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Skyler Kuhn and

    • @skylerkuhn5898
      @skylerkuhn5898 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      bifoclemoss 202 and what?

  • @DavidMacDowellBlue
    @DavidMacDowellBlue 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    That voice (at the beginning and end) is Richard Jenkins, the actor who seems to be some kind of friend/artist/father (figure) to the female lead.
    Also directors usually work with the same actors because they have worked together before and "get" each other, like working with each other, etc. rather than for reasons of auteur.

    • @runtadlita4291
      @runtadlita4291 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My theory is that is Father.

    • @sparroni
      @sparroni 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David MacDowell Blue Agreed. The voice over is definitely Richard Jenkins.

  • @azzystillborne9125
    @azzystillborne9125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    I don't know but I'm kinda looking forward to this movie. Looks interesting and enjoyable

    • @tavrosnitram543
      @tavrosnitram543 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      HOLLOW NANO agreed

    • @carriee.9712
      @carriee.9712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The movie’s cast is phenomenal. 🤟🎶🐟❤️

  • @glowshroomfrfx8992
    @glowshroomfrfx8992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    That wasnt a tentacle in the beginning, it was a curtain.

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Sgt . Thondos
      You might be right.

    • @lionatheart42
      @lionatheart42 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A blanket, actually. It has a knit fabric and you'll notice that the floating figure isn't wearing a blanket.

  • @legend2defx2
    @legend2defx2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +526

    Is it just me or did y'all get a Bioshock feeling when you saw the trailer?

    • @lilliamcruz6778
      @lilliamcruz6778 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Guillermo del Toro loves Bioshock he wanted to make a film

    • @clout.8768
      @clout.8768 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yea bruh i got all excited cause I thought it was bioshock

    • @yungwiremu8685
      @yungwiremu8685 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      xL Lx you mean it has a 60s vibe

    • @Seagull425
      @Seagull425 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Booker Dewitt no bioshock cuz the underwater scenes

    • @r3dh00dlum
      @r3dh00dlum 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      xL Lx same

  • @marzipanpig196
    @marzipanpig196 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was in the middle of judging you for being ultra-nerdy when you said, "Abe reads four books a day," and my brain automatically corrected you by thinking, "No, Abe reads four books at a time." So, uh, from one ultra-nerd to another, great video! :)

  • @owen3301
    @owen3301 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is pretty weird but her shoes could represent like the formal life that she hates and is forced to do, or stress. At 3:49 is shows them falling off, maybe symbolising the stress of life going because she's with the fish person. Additionally, she puts on her shoes after she was asleep, to symbolise her going from a happy place (dreams) to grounded reality (shoes).

  • @billvonprok
    @billvonprok 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    "La Javanaise" is a 1963 song composed for Juliette Greco by the great Serge Gainsbourg. Of course, the interpretation in the trailer is new, but the idea is still there. Perhaps the authors right was too much expensive for the original interpretation.

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      William D.
      Thank you for the info! That makes much more sense.

  • @martinellis2664
    @martinellis2664 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Perhaps The Shape of Water is a completely original property?

  • @TheEigylyte
    @TheEigylyte 6 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    i think hes watching 1961 russian movie ''chelovek-amphibia'' about guy who lives in water , he always lived in labaratory , sometimes escapes to the sea and local people call him a monster , he inloves a girl , girl inloves him , but they cantbe together , or maybe it is reboot for this movie :)

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Eigile Ceplauskaite
      YOU ARE AMAZING.

    • @TheEigylyte
      @TheEigylyte 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i know .... right ? :) o i know it was old movie and his costume so simple , but he was my first fish-man :)

    • @dylansullivan380
      @dylansullivan380 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eigile Ceplauskaite he eats eggs, listens to classical music, and lives in the exact same tank as in the hellboy movie so...

    • @TheEigylyte
      @TheEigylyte 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so... i know its easy to say its abe, i want to say its abe ,i talked in coment about wich movie hes watching in that movietheather fragment , the last sentence was maybe deltoro use some of that movie cose he cant use abe and make abe story before hellboy movies cose first hes not his and second someone making hellboy reboot , u and i need to wait and see what movie it is : reboot for creature , abe past or its something else

    • @TheEigylyte
      @TheEigylyte 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup i know i always mix this movie date 61 or 62 , :)

  • @jacksonbartlett4800
    @jacksonbartlett4800 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i hope it is about abe hes my favorite hellboy character

  • @angeliquedemont2841
    @angeliquedemont2841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    The shoes are representative of her humanity and connection with the Earth, thus her shoes drift away in water

    • @pumpkinpeep9689
      @pumpkinpeep9689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Angelique Demont stfu.

    • @crackediron1435
      @crackediron1435 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Angelique Demont why do so many people say thus stop being posh no should say only megatron optimus and the rest of the transformers in transformers prime

    • @angeliquedemont2841
      @angeliquedemont2841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cracked iron I dunno what language you are speaking, bro?

    • @docteromni894
      @docteromni894 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      is this movie hellboy?

  • @Stereobarf
    @Stereobarf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Doug Jones himself has already confirmed that this character has nothing to do with "any movie or character I may have portrayed before". Check his Twitter and Instagram for proof. He answers multiple comments asking about this and it is well-established now that the Shape of Water is a standalone movie that has no connection to the Hellboy universe.

    • @exilestudios9546
      @exilestudios9546 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ya and harrison ford said han wouldnt die in tfa actors lie when a studio tells them too

    • @Stereobarf
      @Stereobarf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exile Studios if you look at the design of this creature vs Abe Sapien you can see they are completely different. Also, anyone who knows anything about Hellboy knows that Del Toro invented all of the traits for Abe Sapien that you see in the film. It's HIS imagining of the character, not Mike Mignola's. Abe Sapien is a very different character in the comic book. Del Toro liked the traits he came up with because it made the "monster" more easily relatable to the audience, so he re-used them for this film. Still don't believe me? That's fine, there's plenty of proof of all of this online already, and even more proof when the movie comes out.

    • @exilestudios9546
      @exilestudios9546 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol keep believing something that has no basis in facts buddy this is just the start of another generic cinematic universe but with dark horse characters instead of dc or marvel

    • @ryno1509
      @ryno1509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stereobarf the fact the design looks slightly different could just be that they're letting Del Toro design the new Abe for the Hellboy reboot and this is his origin story but they want to surprise people

    • @namanex5210
      @namanex5210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ya dude when a studio doesent want the main secret of the movie to get out they tell the actors to lie just like in the force awakens

  • @josecabanez
    @josecabanez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "I'm not gonna spend 13 minutes on this video"
    *watches video*
    *subscribes*
    "Ok, let's watch more stuff."

  • @shannindelong7125
    @shannindelong7125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Hmmm...set in Massachusetts? Fish people?
    Mother Hydra! Does no one read Lovecraft anymore???

    • @travisphaser
      @travisphaser 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hahahah michael shannon's got that insmouth look to him hahah

    • @pustulio81
      @pustulio81 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shannin DeLong As awesome as that would be, it's doubtful. Movies based on his work either suck due to the filmmakers take WAY too many liberties and ruining story, or, the film fails to launch before filmmakers even have time to begin working on a screenplay.
      Also, "Jeffrey Combs" wasn't in this trailer, so it's guaranteed not to be a "Lovecraft" film. Can't have a Lovecraft film without him LOL

    • @davidflethcer8027
      @davidflethcer8027 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't recall a Lovecraft book about a man-sized manphibian that falls in love with a mute. Btw, Hellboy has always had a big Lovecraft feel... lots of tentacles.

    • @pustulio81
      @pustulio81 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Flethcer No, but, I'm sure you recall a Lovecraft story about a town full of manphibians worshipping manphibian aliens, right? LOL

  • @ImDirtyDan89
    @ImDirtyDan89 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Maybe it's neither?

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Kieran Cheale
      Definitely not ruling that out.

    • @jackdonohue7893
      @jackdonohue7893 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kieran Cheale I hope it's something. I don't know anything about any of these movies.

  • @grim5808
    @grim5808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you so much for taking the time to make this video!! A lot of us needed it. I too was kinda hoping that it would be a spin-off but even if it isn't I think I'll love it cause it seems like a uncommon love story not easily forgotten

  • @sheamusshannon1691
    @sheamusshannon1691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will cry tears of joy if its an Abe origin movie

  • @josephvalenti2400
    @josephvalenti2400 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Creature is with Universal anyways. This is Fox

    • @BaneSIlvermoon
      @BaneSIlvermoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Joseph Valenti That's true, and Universal is in the process of rebooting all their monster movies.

    • @travisphaser
      @travisphaser 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      right its del toros protest for not being involved in the uni reboots. hes like cool not gonna give me one to direct i'll just make a better one before you get the chance hahah. do i kinda hope its a hinted hell boy connection though

    • @davidflethcer8027
      @davidflethcer8027 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The rights are public domain, aren't they?

    • @cameron3578
      @cameron3578 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Flethcer No, Frankenstein and Dracula are but "original characters" such as the Creature are owned by the studio.

  • @travisschlegel8616
    @travisschlegel8616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    At 12:33 of this video, she traces her finger along a window with water drops on the other side and she seems to be controlling the at least some of the droplets. Anyone else notice that?

  • @acereview7968
    @acereview7968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's only an homage to Del Torro's love for the idea of Mermen... something apart from Hellboy, Guillermo said so!

  • @fnarfornoapparentreason9154
    @fnarfornoapparentreason9154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I think that this movie could be a prequel to hell boy and a Sequel the creature from the Black Lagoon the creature could be Abs grandfather and this one is he's father or not either way it looks like a good movie

    • @BaneSIlvermoon
      @BaneSIlvermoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could be, but this movie takes place 98 years after they found Abe

    • @captaincaptain2128
      @captaincaptain2128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fnar For no apparent reason I've seen a lot of people who are told it's either not abe or not gill man (the creature from the black lagoons official monster name), and so instead concede and try to combine them. I can tell you for a fact, no way in hell this has anything to do with the creature from the black lagoon. This is fox, the creature is universal. A reboot is being made specifically for the dark universe. There is zero chance it's related. However, I fully believe this is abe related, at the least he's working on a prequal for a hellboy universe. If not, there is an awfull lot of ammo for a copyright lawyer. The abe similarities are gigantic, and undeniable, so if it's not abe, del Toro blatantly ripped him off.

    • @davidflethcer8027
      @davidflethcer8027 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This wouldn't be Abes father because he was discovered in '78, just a bit down the road, and has a damn long lifespan, I think if it's an abe movie, it would be abe himself.

    • @venoumusgammer4112
      @venoumusgammer4112 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fnar For no apparent reason Abe was found in 1865 pretty much fully grown. This dude isnt his dad

    • @Danimat72
      @Danimat72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe this character can be simply related to Abe, maybe his son, or even nephew culd also be there are many or them too like a new species of anphibious men/women !

  • @chelsiemalfoy
    @chelsiemalfoy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm getting a strong Bioshock vibe for this movie as well. The dream sequence in the beginning reminds me of Rapture, and the "using music from the wrong era" reminds me of a few plot points in Infinite.

  • @MattDriiiver
    @MattDriiiver 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd guess that the shoes represent her connection to the rest of the world, literally her staying grounded in reality, but when she's with Abe From the Black Lagoon, she gets lost in his world with him. A place where shoes aren't needed at all and are actually a hindrance, so we see the shoe fall away from her when she is with him. She doesn't care that she's losing the world shes used to because she's so caught up with Fish Man.

  • @dylansullivan380
    @dylansullivan380 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm pretty sure Abe Sapien WAS the creature from the black lagoon, like a LoEG for misfits, or a suicide squad-type deal.

    • @sublett11
      @sublett11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dylan Sullivan lol this is a joke right?

  • @ofDepreciationatTaxRate
    @ofDepreciationatTaxRate 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also keep in mind Abe Sapiens in the comics was influenced by the creature from the black lagoon, Mike Mignola is heavily influenced by pulpy horror in general. Additionally GDT was a huge Hellboy and Mignola fan before he got to make the film, I mean he wrote the intro to a 1 or 2 of the arcs for Hellboy about how he loved the comics and how him and mignola settled on Perlman for HB (kinda of a neat story if you haven't heard it)

  • @kaoru157
    @kaoru157 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that this movie targets more audiences besides horror fans. I normally don't watch horror films, but the addition of romance has got me hooked. I hope the ending is good.

  • @kubla9834
    @kubla9834 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    the movie the monster was watching was simbad

    • @kiddos2girls
      @kiddos2girls 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      As an avid classic movie watcher, It is totally Sinbad.

    • @PJTWaters
      @PJTWaters 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      "The Story of Ruth" is the correct answer

  • @meguy4758
    @meguy4758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not only they look alike but the guy from hell boy look like the creature from a live action short film called space between us.

    • @kayleeperez2832
      @kayleeperez2832 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also in both the movie and the short film, the main girl meets the creature when cleaning the lab then wants to free him

    • @meguy4758
      @meguy4758 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kaylee Perez true.

  • @johnheppenstall4904
    @johnheppenstall4904 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A film about love. Continuing love, and one that goes above all else. As love does. Beautiful story and film, thanks.

  • @EnoEnasni
    @EnoEnasni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo. Very well thought out and researched.

  • @lesterlewis7018
    @lesterlewis7018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There is a Hellboy Reboot coming 2018.

  • @robert_gomez3290
    @robert_gomez3290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I didn't seem to interested into the movie but now I'm more into how the plot will develop in he movie

  • @josephpotot539
    @josephpotot539 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope it is a movie about Abe because that character deserves his own movie.

  • @yendorofny
    @yendorofny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw it tonight & I liked it. Looks like it could be related to Abe Sapion, as he has the ability to heal with his hands and in the Hellboy movies, Abe always wore gloves, unless he needed to "examine" something but then, Abe never tried healing anyone as far as I remember.

  • @LuisTorres-bp5kt
    @LuisTorres-bp5kt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    But it looks nothing like Abe. You could say it is young or something but still, it would resemble him and not the creature from the black lagoon.

    • @ryno1509
      @ryno1509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Luis Torres they've REBOOTED Hellboy, which means they've rebooted the designs of the characters

    • @Gibbypastrami
      @Gibbypastrami 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i mean, it doesnt look NOT like Abe, it looks like a blue creature from the black lagoon, which is pretty much abe, it doesnt look exactly like him, but an updated design for the reboot could be used as reasoning

    • @coltonpucci2174
      @coltonpucci2174 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luis Torres its a reboot

    • @Jessica-oj4kh
      @Jessica-oj4kh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      As they said, the creatures change appearance with age.

  • @KidBlueRB27
    @KidBlueRB27 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It's gotta be Abe Sapien. because he has an obsession with eggs which is shown in the trailer

    • @Renny_Yeti
      @Renny_Yeti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And classical music

    • @pubocular4768
      @pubocular4768 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I personally think this is a prequel to Hellboy because it's the same director, has the same guy who played Abe in Hellboy, has a lizard like creature that eats eggs and listens to classical music and the design looks more similar to Abe than what the creature from the black lagoon looks like. But this will most likely be his own movie that is just similar to those other films.

    • @Rippd_Bagel
      @Rippd_Bagel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KidBlueRB27 he also loved old music

  • @rmiller9130
    @rmiller9130 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The Shape of Water" is more of a stand-alone story that in a similar vein of "The Iron Giant"...but with aquatic tendencies. Either way, good to see Del Toro's still telling awesome narratives!

  • @michealarreola8363
    @michealarreola8363 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    u are the best when i say this video i was so interested so thxs for making this video make more pls 😀😄😄

  • @Yup-Tis-I
    @Yup-Tis-I 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @CZsWorld After thinking about it, I'm satisfied with my theory behind the importance of the shoes. I figure that the shoes represent her ties to her (this) reality; grounding her in this unfriendly yet familiar world. She is obviously deaf and so cleaning and maintaining is a simple yet powerful way for her to make a physical change in the world while also being easily perceived by others. In my opinion she doesn't care too much for the cleaning itself but for the difference she is able to make. For this reason she opts to help this strange creature that is unfamiliar and alien to her even though others seem to treat it with hostility. She does this because, just like her cleaning, this is a way to make a possibly positive difference. During the scene that she and the creature kiss, her shoe falls off. That to me represents her letting go of some preconceived ideas she may have had from simply growing up in her world. But, notice she only loses one shoe. Maybe this is just because having both shoes float away in the same scene would look odd and possibly distract from the kiss. Or maybe it's interchangeable with the amount of her old self and ideals she is still holding on to.

  • @dreamhassan9223
    @dreamhassan9223 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What if the creature from the black lagoon and Abe are the same species

    • @caramel7050
      @caramel7050 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      #Casual Gamer They're very different physically. I doubt it.

  • @Zusse
    @Zusse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Maybe she cleans things because she could have OCD as well....maybe that’s why she always cleans her shoes over and over everyday it’s like a ritual

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zusse
      Great point! Thank you.

    • @Zusse
      @Zusse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      CZsWorld nah man thanks for making some original and nice content I enjoy watching things like this it helps me relax

    • @nerdygameraddicts861
      @nerdygameraddicts861 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe she just likes clean things.

  • @olivia.martin
    @olivia.martin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first saw the trailer, I literally gasped "ABE??" out loud. With the new Hellboy reboot coming I was just grasping for anything to tie into it but damn, if this is linked in any way, I will be pleased

  • @jamesd2021
    @jamesd2021 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It cant be hellboy. Del Torro and Mike Mignola had some sort of falling out and thats why there was never a hellboy 3.

    • @ryno1509
      @ryno1509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Frozen Golem that's not a fact that's gossip and rumours

    • @Gibbypastrami
      @Gibbypastrami 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      there wasnt a hellboy 3 because del toro had a huge budget for it and hellboy 2 didnt do very well in the box office

    • @dbaking259
      @dbaking259 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frozen Golem sucks right...

    • @orinanime
      @orinanime 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was no falling out.
      Hellboy 1&2 were box office flops.
      And the two animated movies didn't pull in ratings or home video sales.
      That's why there was no 3.

    • @elsiedoomhammer7646
      @elsiedoomhammer7646 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James D Maybe its a sneeeaky addition to the Hellboy story. And Del Tore is sitting somewhere right now thinking "Sheesh I didnt think itd be so apparent..." or maybe hes just doing a sinister villain cackle in a dim lit room *shrug*

  • @toddhazel-tate8643
    @toddhazel-tate8643 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Creature from the black lagoon is owned by dark universe

    • @joerogaine3093
      @joerogaine3093 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      More accurately its owned by Universal. Dark Universe is just branding.

  • @NIGHTStheBAND
    @NIGHTStheBAND 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was interesting, thanks for dissecting and sharing. I also noticed the strong Amelie connection to her character and also in the color tone of the cinematography.. which I love, because that's a fantastic film, one of my favorites.

  • @darrenp428
    @darrenp428 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn sir, you are thorough and that is to be commended. Wonderful work. Keep them coming please. Thank you!!!!!

  • @benjaminvalles8595
    @benjaminvalles8595 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What if shape of water Is going to be connected to the new Hellboy reboot

  • @djdj-os5gw
    @djdj-os5gw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell boy is my favorite movie

  • @carolnicotera-ward235
    @carolnicotera-ward235 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The voice at the beginning and end of the trailer is NOT Doug Jones, but rather Richard Jenkins (of "6 Feet Under" fame). You can see him with the bad hairpiece throughout the trailer. Can't wait to see this movie!

  • @listenup987
    @listenup987 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really can't wait to see this.

  • @sleepylad9829
    @sleepylad9829 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I want hellboy (even if it isnt) cause I'm a fan of hellboy

  • @davidflethcer8027
    @davidflethcer8027 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I hope to god it's Abe Sapien.

    • @BeegBWolf
      @BeegBWolf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why? 😄

    • @oskardirlewanger6083
      @oskardirlewanger6083 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BigBadWolf The movie would just be yet another shitty chick fantasy if it's not Abe Sapien.

    • @that.pop.culture_nerd831
      @that.pop.culture_nerd831 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Del toro already shot that down

    • @FreakingFerret
      @FreakingFerret 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abe sapien wasn’t born, but created. Read the comics. He was a man, created by a water deity that posses a scientist. God damn.

  • @KathrynSpaulding
    @KathrynSpaulding 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be upfront about it, I could totally be wrong...but I watched that clip and I instantly wanted to go watch Jason and the Argonauts which came out in 1963.
    Now I'm going to have to go watch that movie again, it was one of my favorites when I was growing up.
    I truly hope that the romance of Creature from the Black Lagoon comes out in this movie. I was so saddened as a child when I watched the end and felt so lonely for the creature.

  • @jackbaxter2223
    @jackbaxter2223 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, Abe got in a scrap with Wink in Hellboy 2. But damn, you raise a lot of good points and minor but probably important details. Excellent video.

  • @ngrayson
    @ngrayson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    WAIT... what if this is apart of the new hellboy reboot I know del toro isn't directing the new one but maybe just MAYBE there's a chance that it is the new abe

    • @jjwhittle8873
      @jjwhittle8873 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why does everything have to be connected these days. Can't we just have new characters? Either way, SoW is Fox Searchlight and Hellboy is Lionsgate, so no, they will not be overlapping.

  • @T7machinimas
    @T7machinimas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    getting a strong pans labyrinth vibe from this movie

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld  6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also check out the follow up video where I answer your comments. Things I Missed in The Shape of Water Trailer: th-cam.com/video/UIHIWhIc5YY/w-d-xo.html

  • @Arlegria
    @Arlegria 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing observation. I enjoyed it. Thank you :-)

  • @dajiban9325
    @dajiban9325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its the creature of the black lagoon

  • @ceyrehb4166
    @ceyrehb4166 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What if the creature is the father of Abe

    • @BaneSIlvermoon
      @BaneSIlvermoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ceyreh B Could be, but this is 98 years after Abe was found, so Abe is also in a tank somewhere in a government facility.

    • @ceyrehb4166
      @ceyrehb4166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      BaneSIlvermoon oh ok thank you

    • @nezquicboi1348
      @nezquicboi1348 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ceyreh B DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

    • @ceyrehb4166
      @ceyrehb4166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      is it that dumb?

    • @jjwhittle8873
      @jjwhittle8873 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CAN IT NOT JUST BE AN ENTIRELY NEW CHARACTER. FFS.

  • @yanecphilipp3354
    @yanecphilipp3354 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review

  • @Potato96780
    @Potato96780 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn i didn't think about this nice video

  • @koammudo43
    @koammudo43 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There rebooting hell boy to soooo hell yeah

  • @guarddog717
    @guarddog717 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    MY LIFE IS A LIE

  • @johnwolffe9590
    @johnwolffe9590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something I thing is strange is the official wiki page clearly states that it is set in 1962 and only takes place over the course of a few months , but a lot of people think it takes place in 1963. There are some things that point to that being more likely,but I believe it is just like most films and is a slightly altered continuity of events from our own.

  • @james_1526
    @james_1526 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude im loving your videos sub

  • @kuachonism8025
    @kuachonism8025 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe, this movie is about Abe's parents....

  • @SewerTapes
    @SewerTapes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Hellboy/Creature From the Black Lagoon argument is ridiculous. This movie is being released by Fox. Universal owns Creature From the Black Lagoon. Columbia/Sony owns Hellboy, and Legendary Pictures is trying to make a deal for the rights. Therefore, this film has nothing to do with either property.

  • @lizbawesome
    @lizbawesome 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, it doesn't matter to me if this is a Hellboy spinoff or Guillermo Del Toro's version of Creature of the Black Lagoon because regardless the detail and story will be spectacular and will leave the audience in awe. I am a huge fan of both, but I would love to see Hellboy's Abe have an origin story. Abe is a character that only Guillermo Del Toro can expand upon and if it is not an Abe origin story and a Black Lagoon story, I will be thrilled either way.

  • @mcv147
    @mcv147 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:21 probably Spartacus. One of del Toro's favorite films.

  • @Art-zp1qg
    @Art-zp1qg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Who else watching this in 2017

    • @theskele
      @theskele 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Art Jashari oml

    • @Art-zp1qg
      @Art-zp1qg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tSkele wat

    • @theskele
      @theskele 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Art Jashari Octopus

    • @Art-zp1qg
      @Art-zp1qg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Onion

    • @unclecreed2986
      @unclecreed2986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2018

  • @nestharon
    @nestharon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ever thought about Lovecraftian theme? Del Toro is a Lovecraft fan, the creature is worshiped by the amazonian and in the Shadow over Innsmouth, captain Obed Marsh befriends a tribe which worship Dagon and brings that belief back to Innsmouth and and also befriending the Deep Ones. Maybe the creature is a deep one??? Just a wild thought :)

  • @a_3x
    @a_3x 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Del Toro can have it be a spiritual prequel. While he may not be able to legally say it's a prequel for Abe Sapian but he can, and can want others, to think of it that way.

  • @cafebrianna
    @cafebrianna 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so unbelievably excited Bout this movie!! I'm rewatching Hellboy and the Black Lagoon to get ready.

  • @cinomontague
    @cinomontague 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid

  • @binwallen9105
    @binwallen9105 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of time must have been spent on this, I liked and subscribed for that

  • @flashnicog6437
    @flashnicog6437 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo u should do a video on the new trailer of it that would be dope! Anyways keep up the good work, love your short films.

  • @Lordborgoth666
    @Lordborgoth666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a deep one nobody is thinking about how Del Toro is a huge Lovecraft fan.

  • @gettingintrospective
    @gettingintrospective 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! That was fun to watch. Thanks for the spoiler alert, I had to SPLIT XD

  • @biancalovesGD
    @biancalovesGD 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    THAT "IT" PART, WHY DID I LAUGH.

  • @Collateral0
    @Collateral0 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That rich abe backstory, go i hope this give us hellboy 3 after this been waiting to long

  • @Neroese1
    @Neroese1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is one MAJOR thing that you forgot. Hellboy is based on comic. Let me show something:
    "Abe's real name was Langdon Caul, he was a scientist and occult investigator, and member of a secret society known as the Oannes
    Society. Langdon found an creature that looked simillar to a jellyfish
    and him and other members of the Oannes Society performed a ritual on it which ended with Langdon becoming a different species labeled Icthyo Sapien. The society imprisoned Langdon in a large tube of water in Washington DC. However, the Civil War forced the society to leave the building he was imprisoned in. He wasn't found until much later by a group of workmen.With no memory of who he was, Langdon took a new identity as Abe Sapien, from the last name of his species, and a piece of paper he recieved with the date of Abe Lincoln's assassination. Abe was taken to the B.P.R.D. where he was studied and almost dissected until he was saved by an empathetic Hellboy. After he was saved by Hellboy, Abe became a valuable field agent of the B.P.R.D."
    Lets add a director to it (del Toro) and the fact that Hellboy reboot is coming. It's too much coincidence for me.

  • @sarahhales1505
    @sarahhales1505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The movie playing in the theatre is The Story of Ruth, made in 1960. It starred Elena Eden as Ruth.

  • @congestedcryptid
    @congestedcryptid 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I have a small theory for you! There is one scene in the trailer where Eliza is leaning against Abe's(let's just assume it's Abe) tank and running her finger on it. But, if you look closely you can see some air bubbles following her finger. It follows her finger for a whole loop, so I doubt it's just a coincidence. There are also bubbles accompanied with the text after that. Looks like someone is trying to make us notice something here. So, what it, Eliza isn't as normal as we think? What if she can control water? This probably sounds absolutely crazy for anyone who hasn't seen Hellboy, but there is actually a character in the movie who can control fire. This character is also Hellboys love interest. Hellboy, a demon from hell, with a girl who can control fire....Abe Sapien, a fish, with a girl who can control water. Water is everywhere in this trailer! Yeah, it could be because Abe is a fish and underwater, but is it a little wink at our main characters secret power? This would also be an amazing way to introduce BPRD and maybe even Hellboy? (Also "The Shape Of Water?" And Eliza can move water???)
    -Sara

  • @duffymalone1153
    @duffymalone1153 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel 💚‼️

  • @TheDreamWyrm
    @TheDreamWyrm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The voice at the beginning and end is Richard Jenkins, who is shown talking to Eliza later in the trailer.

  • @rahjeel
    @rahjeel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really hope it is Abe Sapien. I like his character a lot, he's a very interesting and very charming creature.

  • @kc_unspokensymphony
    @kc_unspokensymphony 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doug actually said the answer if Abe and the creature in the movie are connected! He said yes he plays both of them but he knows people think it’s a spinoff and he answered The Shape of Water is COMPLETELY different saying the two characters are not connected at all

  • @transylvani600
    @transylvani600 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe it's a way to test out how well A movie featuring a gillman will do in the theaters and maybe come up with a new design for the creature from the Black Lagoon

  • @OrestesSword
    @OrestesSword 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm intending to see this in the theater. Most of Guillermo Del Toro's films have a sad ending with a silver lining. Almost all of the main characters end up with a resolution at the end, but not in the way the viewer would expect (e.g. Mama, Pan's Labyrinth, The Orphanage, Crimson Peak, etc.).

  • @michaelcuthbertson6333
    @michaelcuthbertson6333 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The design is pretty reminiscent of the 'Future Abe' from the BPRD Hell on Earth series, which was a more alien take on the design. I doubt this film is connected to either franchise, but I can see Del Toro dropping little references to both, as well as the little tribute to HP Lovecraft with the location

  • @GoodNightBandit_99
    @GoodNightBandit_99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I watched the trailer, as soon as I saw him grab the boiled egg from in the water I immediately knew it had to be a prequel for Abe sapien!

  • @pustulio81
    @pustulio81 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this is a prequel, I'll be surprised. That, clearly, doesn't look like Abe at all. The eyes are nearly EXACT to the "creature", and the scene with both of them in the water fits into the "Lagoon" story perfectly. It's FAR more likely that it's a "Lagoon" remake, or sequel, than a Hellboy prequel.

  • @shadowr2d2
    @shadowr2d2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Grew Up On *{The Creature From Black Lagoon}.. Plus All The Great Monster Movies.. But I Do Like how.. You Have Explained Your Ideas, & Thoughts On This Movie.. I Also Think That.. Abe From Hell Boy, & This Creature.. Live In The Same Time.. They Are Just Distance Relatives.. Kind Of Like *{BIG FOOT, & The YET}.. Are Kind Of The Same.. But Far Apart By Distance.. I Liked Your Video So Much.. You sir Have A New Subscriber.. Keep Up The Great Work..

  • @butcherboy2008
    @butcherboy2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fascinating video to watch after having seen the actual film. The film is Book Of Ruth. It takes place in Baltimore. The voice at the beginning is Richard Jenkins.

  • @Jfireprime
    @Jfireprime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That "tentacle" at the beginning is super obviously a curtain.

  • @Satsujinki1973
    @Satsujinki1973 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abe was a human who was altered by an arcane ritual to become icthyo sapien. He was left in suspended animation until 1978. So this movie takes place 14 years before he is found.
    This movie also seems to be more about science than supernatural.

  • @harleywegner9509
    @harleywegner9509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if this movie will have a kind of ex machina ending where fish man is manipulating the woman into thinking he loves her but in actuality is only using her for his escape