For the gym equipment… next time- it is much easier to unpack the machines on the lower level and take the parts up… very, very smart decision to bite the bullet and fix the doors. All in all, this is an example of a successful true passion project, expertly planned and executed. Assumptions on the doors width were based on standard width of garage doors, and the omission the doors thickness - among the thousands of small decisions that has to be made in this project- it is easy to see how it was overlooked. There are no perfect projects, but yours will end up close, and will be a joy for years to come.
Absolutely gutted for you about the doors. That terrible feeling when you realised it wasn’t right, is something many of us have felt at some point in our lives. You’ve made the right the decision to sort it out. Such an important project to get absolutely right. 🤩
In such a renovation project there are so many decisions to be taken, it’s almost inevitable that a problem will arise somewhere. Wise decision to bite the bullet and fix the issue now.
I know it will be expensive and annoying but you have made the right decision in increasing the door size. With just a few inches either side of a cars mirror it is really worrying when driving in or reversing out as you can easily catch the wing mirrors especially with today’s modern cars. I did it a couple of times and when I bought a bigger car the first thing I did was to take the door frames off and change the door type which instantly gave me an extra 15 cms of width. I can now go in and out of my garage with no concerns at all.
@ yep, it would also make automation easier in the future, as the swing open is much longer. It could be done with rams, but they do take ages to open!
Hi Ped the clear opening is always compromised when using doors on hinges the loss of width varies but still catches us out in our construction company, I've been in the construction industry for over 30 years and it's never without issues, no matter how well you plan work on existing buildings 👍
If it makes you feel any better, I once built a chicken coop for my chickens. As the weather was bad, I built it in my garage, in the dry, ready to place in the new run. Now this was a luxury chicken coop, complete with double glazed windows that I'd got hold of for free. When it was finished, I sat back with a bottle of beer admiring my work. The following day I went to move the coop to its new location. After much manoeuvring, measuring of coop, and measuring of doors, it was clear it would never leave the garage in one piece!🙄 luckily, my chickens didn't drive a Porsche!😉
We all make mistakes, learn and move on. When it comes to garage space, the larger and wider the better. It is going to look awesome when you are done. 👍I can't wait to see the next video! 👏
Remembers me the French train company that 10 years ago replace the trains for new ones, and guess what… they were too large to enter the stations… 😂. Result… they had to rebuild hundreds of stations costing millions 😱… so, don’t punish yourself so hard, just take it as a life lesson 👌. Cheers from 🇩🇪.
Or Coventry's swimming baths, opened with great fanfare and then they tried to hold a race, only to be told that the pool needed to be 50 *metres* not 50 *yards* !
Thank goodness you CAN modify the doors and apertures to suit larger vehicles! Better to do it now before the wonderful aging process takes hold to give all that lovely wood the "Why...I've been here forever! Where have YOU been living all this time, council member?" look. The doors and bumpers of all your future test cars can breathe a sigh of relief! Aloha!
If you are going to the expence and bother of redoing the doors, you need to make them at least eight foot which is a comfortable size for a modern car. They're still going to be very tight even with the extra six inches you're adding. Glad to see at the end of this video you've went big.
Always easy to spot something in hindsight. I bet you've made 100s of 'right' decisions with this build, so having one that was slightly out (but still rectifiable) is pretty damn impressive. Plus, it means we get a few extra videos out of it 😊
A few years ago I went from barn doors on our double garage to armoured roller shutters. First off - they look great as they are customed for a residential application. Secondly - my goodness, just 'loosing' the previous frames (a couple of inches each side and above as you have here Ped) - it made putting the cars in the garage so much easier. A pity you have to have a fairly major revision, but good to accept and solve the problem early! Lovely build BTW!
Hello Peter. My goodness…I wish now that I had tried harder to warn that the doors were too narrow…I had to scrap the 7’ door on my garage but my luck was that it was brickwork either side so I could make the door ( electric panel sectional door) is 3.5m wide and I thank my stars I did that. However…now it looks transformed! Well done for bravery and biting an expensive bullet. For me it has made the whole job so much better…much more as you wanted! Good work on the gym equipment but I was shouting at the screen when you were too close to the ceiling! It all looks GOOD…now some nice wall fittings! Well done Peter…a bump in the road but it has turned out alright! So pleased for you and Hilary wants Darcy as her Guard Dog if she is ever looking for part time work! 😃😃😃😃😃Richard.
You were really lucky the builders were available. In your earlier post I thought the garage doors looked narrow but thought it was just an optical illusion because the building is so wide.Mind you, could’ve saved a fortune and just got two smaller cars 🤣
OMG Ped i feel your pain when there is so much to do it is so easy to get something wrong. As a pet owner you will understand this I ordered and fitted blinds in the office I had the blinds over my patio door to open as the patio door slide but in the living room the doors we use to let the dogs out I did the blinds as a centre slider and it had bugged me for the past 17 years. So minor compared to your problem but al least you can sort it. Heartbreaking. At least you are doing it I have never changed my blind OMG what a cheap bugger LOL
Oh Ped, I feel your pain. We have two standard size garages and until we bought a Skoda Enyaq they were fine. We measured it several times and knew it would be tight. However after a while of folding in the mirrors we took the decision to make it wider by a brick and a half. Worth every penny for peace of mind for those scrapes. 2.4m wide now, up and over sectional 👍🏻
I loved the MG Technogym kit from the 90's cycling team. Bartoli and Bettini were so damn cool with their nonchalant air and Coppi bikes, a golden era of pro cycling
They say that hindsight is a wonderful thing - I know because I used to work for someone who had a degree in it!!! Fair play to you to accept the deficiency and then actually do something to rectify it otherwise it would always annoy you. Also I think the general look of the doors will be improved significantly because the width will match the height better. So well done Pete for biting the bullet now, as the project is looking fantastic and is very worthy of the extra cost to make it right.
I so feel for you. I've been in that place in my own building projects and its sickening and yet you have to just eat it up and do what's needed. Brilliant that you shared your vulnerability. This is all about being human. Love you mate.
Sorry to hear that the doors are not wide enough. Having a barn with the doors just wide enough. This would be priority number one for me if I would build a new garage. I would aim for 2,5 meters. I hope you can change this at reasonable cost.
Just one more 'problem' : you will have to substantially widen and reinforce every road in the UK and every parking bay marked on all the UK roads due to the ever increasing size and mass of new vehicles! I was about to leave our cat's vet practise yesterday in our Nissan X-trail 2024 when a 'tiny' car pulled in to the next bay; it was an Audi 3 hatchback....
Glad you are able to rectify that relatively easy. I also think aesthetically the wider doors will suit the barn much better. You’ll be enjoying it soon enough😊
A really good choice would have been doors that slide along the interior walls. What I mean is a door that opens from, for example, right to left and the door then goes along the interior wall on the inside when it opens, it doesn't curl up. It only takes like maybe at most 8 inches from the interior wall and obviously you can't use the walls but it gives you the full size of your opening as useful
As someone facing this middle-class problem myself - I noticed your doors in the flooring video and was surprised you hadn't gone at least double + single.
Oh dear, well life is all about the learning experience and any build project will present challenges. You're doing the right thing by making the changes now. In a year or two you won't even remember you stress you're going through now. It will all be worth it... Good luck with the final push...
You should probably put mat's under the treadmill, We have a treadmill on second floor on carpet and without the mats it makes a hell of a racket downstairs. Looks really good, I'd suggest for your desk if you use a laptop to get a docking station and dual 4k monitors and a decent chair, Makes a hell of a difference to the ergonomics when your sat at a desk for hours on end. You must be really proud of what you've got at the end of the project. With the Doors, Sometimes this stuff happens. With all the foresight in the world at least it's minor in comparison to structural issues.
Looks like your dream garage is turning into a bit of a nightmare! 😂 In all fairness, we all respect you for holding your hands up, and admitting the mistake, and not blaming anyone else 👍 It’s definitely the right time to put it right. It’s going to look awesome once it’s all done 👏🏻 I must say I have throughly enjoyed this series, and have excitedly clicked on each video when a new one was released 😀 Keep them coming! Best wishes, Victor
No problems ONLY solutions. My hubby & myself have done a few builds and this is our saying. It will be right but also make sure there’s enough room (width) for the automated brackets also as they will stick out also ☺️ if they are placed at top of doors then shouldn’t be a problem but if placed in bottom/middle that could also be a problem BUT only solutions 💯
It happens Pete, I’ve done a number of renovations and even when you think you’ve cracked it there are always some decisions that snowball into issues. Just one of those things, completely right decision to suck it up now and deal with it. 👍 Will be awesome!
Garage looks great. LOVE the interior lighting. 👍 No one has ever built a structure and not wished they’d done something different. Luckily here, you can fix it relatively easily. It’s only money at this point. My only (totally non-solicited 😳) suggestion would be to make the doors as wide as possible. Can they be 3 meters wide? If you have to tear down and reconstruct, you might as well push the envelop as far as possible. Regardless, what an incredible project. A little jealous 😜 but super excited and happy for you Pete. 👍
O well Pete, I know it’s a big job and upsetting to see what looked like a fantastic job done been taken apart . But I’m with you take it on the chin and have it right because that would drive me mad and I would regret not doing it. I know it’s an extra expense you could do without but over time it will be worth it. Looking forward to seeing the finished place in all its glory.
You weren't supposed to blow the bloody doors off! Haha. Don't beat yourself up about it Pete. You live and learn. It's looking amazing! Can't wait to see the final product.
Very honest video as ever. Best to get it sorted now, everything else looks so good. In mitigation, you probably haven't garaged a car for years, so didn't realise that 7 feet isn't wide enough for modern cars. The Fiat 500X I used to have needed its mirrors folding (manually) to get it into my garage, so at that point I converted it to a workshop!
Fair play to you Ped for recording the modifications including all the mess it has made. I would have been inclined to admit the error AFTER everything had been completed. Superb garage/gym/office I’m not envious in the slightest 😊
If it helps, when I built my house I drew up the basic plans, my son converted them into a CAD drawing , then they were redrawn by an Architect. We all missed a vital factor in one room, the thickness of the dry lining. The room is 45mm too small for the white goods and kitchen cabinets that were to go in. My Garage door is 10 ft wide, the MG Midget fits in perfectly!, The cars we use live outdoors.
Its no big deal they look great, last week I built up a double wardrobe in our daughters room, it was expensive and complicated, I had to build it in the room, due to height, one very long day later it was finished, my wife and two daughters thought it look amazing, it only required the interior lights fitted....then it struck me I had built it upside down 😮😮😮
Our internal house garage struggled to fit a Ford Fiesta in. It's now been converted to a super sized kitchen as it wasn't useable as a garage. I thought everyone knew how bad standard UK garages were? If only he'd asked viewers for advice first. 😊
Change the hinges to have front hinge mounted to front of garage. Door will then recess as the door opens. Leaving full width of opening. Have the hinge set on front wall and have it so it overlaps the wall by 2 inches on each hinge. When door opens it will leave. 2 inch gap. Nothing expensive just need an iron monger to mate the hinges strong enough to cope with the extra 2 inches of leaverage
Hi there. Just watched your video and your problem with the doors standing inside the door aperture. Because you were using butt hinges right on the edge of the door frame, it would always mean the door thickness would reduce the aperture because the doors would sit inside the frame opening. You could have used hinge bands with the hinge pins being positioned on the other side of the door frame as this would throw the doors out clear of the door frame opening. I know you would still have needed to remove the overlapping cladding on the outside, but it would have been a lot easier than starting again. Also if you take my tip, don't paint the doors and cladding with paint as this will be difficult to maintain in the future. Instead, use a "Spirit" based coating as this is much easier to maintain long term.😊
You missed out the best piece of gym equipment, the indoor rower. I use the water Rower it uses water resistance and you get the sound to go. Best all round cardio/strength endurance machine. As for the garage doors,DOH!! When Vincenzo Lancia built his first car in 1906 he could not get it out the door was to narrow! So he used a sledge hammer and demolished the bricks surrounding the door! The old adage is measure twice and cut once and I've learned that the hard way. !
When I saw the door openings I thought they were narrow but remembering how small my mum's garage doors are (which can barely fit a Vauxhall Astra) I thought that's just how they do things in the UK. Your old doors look like they might fit a 1960's Mini or Hillman Imp comfortably but not any modern family car. Your new doors will work a treat and look great. My North American double car garage door is 16ft (4.88m) wide.
The whole garage looks absolutely terrific. The door job being fixable will soon be forgotten, everyone makes mistakes except the man that doesn't and we've all met one of those!
Ped this happens all the time with self builds we had to redo the entire flooring due to miscalculation by the architect. I think like others have mentioned the biggest mistake was not unpacking the gym stuff on the ground floor and then carrying the individual bits upstairs. Looking forward to the final grand opening I think Ruby Roadster should have the honours of being first car in to cut the ribbon.
its all about the hinges, using different hinges you could move the pivot point so the door swing out of the way. This would be even easier if you go with floor mounted openers as you can pretty much put the pivot point were you want (was a while ago now, but spent over 10 years of fitting auto gates and garage doors..). However you are right to change them for as wide as you can, never had a complaint the doors were to big from the customer, only the engineers who had to try and make hinges for the extra weight (the wider the door/gate the more side load on the hinge). Also be careful how you do the centre gap to prevent jamming or massive gaps when they change size summer/winter..
It feels like you have been poorly advised by your door manufacturers and/or the building contractors. They should have known the aperture was very tight by the plans. Believe it or not I had something similar and it wasn’t until an architect friend pointed it out during a social visit that we saved ourselves a few thousand pounds. Just thought, what about your nice flooring? It won’t butt up to the skirting!! I have to say though that the quality and classy look of your garage conversion is exceptional. I would be very pleased with the finished product. Really, really pleased for you and not a little envious …..😁
Pete, I have up and over automated. I park my 992 in the garage , and have to fold the mirrors every time. I did get used to it, and I double check every entry and exit. I was dealing with a brick built garage and had no choice. Take care and put a MIRRORS sign on the wall until you have nailed. Good luck.
Pity you've had to go back a little and modify the doors/ openings, but atleast it's better done now. As mentioned just an oversite from the builder, would've expected them to say that they need enough room when the doors are on and open not just the gap before they're hung. Never mind, it'll look better for it. I remember when I best friend had his garage built they used a double door opening wide enough to fit a Range Rover in it and close it whilst you walked around the car.
Much better Pete, they were far too narrow. Negligent of your door builder and tradespeople to build and fit doors that you can’t even fit a Range Rover through - especially as they know you test different cars. Sounds like you convinced yourself 7ft was a ‘standard’ door, whereas in fact garage doors are sold in various sizes.
I retired from surveying and selling Garage doors in August. Absolute minimum width for modern cars is 2438. Unfortunately with side hung the thickness of the doors also narrow the opening. Although you wont get the look you want, best doors for you would be compact rollers in a wood grain finish fitted behind the openings.
I feel for you Pete. Frustrating to say the least but the refit will be well worth it. In time, you'll look back and be proud of the whole project you managed and laugh it off about 'door-gate'. Have a good weekend 👍
Having all but rebuilt an entire house I can sympathise with how difficult it can be to think of every single detail, so don’t beat yourself up over this. Quite agree that sorting it out now is the most sensible option. You’ll only regret not doing it for ever if you don’t and it’s probably cheaper now than leaving it till later anyway.
Pete you do realise on TH-cam you never admit to mistakes :) I suspect the majority of people are nodding as they remember similar 'obvious' mistakes we've all made. I think you were right to address it right away, you'd have never got the time back and it would've soured your enjoyment. Looking forward to seeing the finished project. PS I wonder if you should include a section in your next vlog titled 'Things I learned during the build,....' Cheers, Kevin
I did think it was an optical illusion from the video when the doors went on that they looked narrow. Lesson learnt lol. Measure twice cut once. 👍👍 still looks great Pete.
unfortunate, but the build looks great! Had a similar issue when I built the off-road parking at our house. The local council wasn't happy, said the spaces were too small for building regs.... until I pointed out that I had used the measurements of the parking spaces at the council offices....😂
You can never have too wide a garage door. They look better aesthetically and offer much more room. I thought the openings were way too small early in the build. The doors should be a rectangle not a square.
Sorry pete but I knew when it was first built the doors looked a little narrow on camera but glad you have addressed it the gym looks fine just needs some art work on the walls.👍
These things happen. At the end of the day getting it sorted straight away was the right thing to do. I had some renovations and made a bad call at the time and it cost twice as much later to fix.
Don’t worry about the running equipment you’ve got the men 😂 have to say the Garage is looking spectacular absolutely wonderful very enjoyable video as always
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For the gym equipment… next time- it is much easier to unpack the machines on the lower level and take the parts up… very, very smart decision to bite the bullet and fix the doors. All in all, this is an example of a successful true passion project, expertly planned and executed. Assumptions on the doors width were based on standard width of garage doors, and the omission the doors thickness - among the thousands of small decisions that has to be made in this project- it is easy to see how it was overlooked. There are no perfect projects, but yours will end up close, and will be a joy for years to come.
Complete Muppet with a team of Muppets.
What about the lintel!!😉 Reminiscent of Fawlty Towers, the builders.
No one who made anything hasn't made mistakes. As others have said, you owned up & moved on. It's been an excellent series, thumbs up!
Yes but when you are paying professionals one should be able to expect advice and guidance!
Thanks chap. Just one more video left 👍
I'd challenge anyone to admit they haven't made similar mistakes. Don't beat yourself up Pete! The gym looks awesome by the way! 😀
Sounds like you're a Pro Builder 😔
Thanks 🙏🏻
Absolutely gutted for you about the doors. That terrible feeling when you realised it wasn’t right, is something many of us have felt at some point in our lives. You’ve made the right the decision to sort it out. Such an important project to get absolutely right. 🤩
In such a renovation project there are so many decisions to be taken, it’s almost inevitable that a problem will arise somewhere. Wise decision to bite the bullet and fix the issue now.
Yep 👍
Yeah I thought the doors were far too narrow weeks ago😢,glad it’s getting rectified 👍
Me too, you would have thought the builders would have realised that a garage is for cars...
Yeah me too 👍
@@PetrolPedthese things happen so don’t beat yourself up and the fix isn’t too terrible. At least it’s not an oak frame..
I know it will be expensive and annoying but you have made the right decision in increasing the door size. With just a few inches either side of a cars mirror it is really worrying when driving in or reversing out as you can easily catch the wing mirrors especially with today’s modern cars. I did it a couple of times and when I bought a bigger car the first thing I did was to take the door frames off and change the door type which instantly gave me an extra 15 cms of width. I can now go in and out of my garage with no concerns at all.
Yeah. I’d only need to get it wrong once and that could prove expensive 😬
You could also use a Parliament hinge on those doors, it will give you 2 inches each side.
I would add these on to his new doors as well. In garage door width, more is better!
@ yep, it would also make automation easier in the future, as the swing open is much longer. It could be done with rams, but they do take ages to open!
The issue will then be fouling on the endstop timber to the cladding.
Hi Ped the clear opening is always compromised when using doors on hinges the loss of width varies but still catches us out in our construction company, I've been in the construction industry for over 30 years and it's never without issues, no matter how well you plan work on existing buildings 👍
If it makes you feel any better, I once built a chicken coop for my chickens. As the weather was bad, I built it in my garage, in the dry, ready to place in the new run. Now this was a luxury chicken coop, complete with double glazed windows that I'd got hold of for free. When it was finished, I sat back with a bottle of beer admiring my work. The following day I went to move the coop to its new location. After much manoeuvring, measuring of coop, and measuring of doors, it was clear it would never leave the garage in one piece!🙄 luckily, my chickens didn't drive a Porsche!😉
LOL 😂
We all make mistakes, learn and move on. When it comes to garage space, the larger and wider the better. It is going to look awesome when you are done. 👍I can't wait to see the next video! 👏
I hope so!
Glad you've been able to quickly modify the doors - the new ones will make life a lot easier.
Definitely!
Makes those expensive custom-sized doors look cheap now 😭
Don’t add a single 100mm style to each door, add 50mm pieces to both sides of each door, it will look better and less likely to twist
Remembers me the French train company that 10 years ago replace the trains for new ones, and guess what… they were too large to enter the stations… 😂. Result… they had to rebuild hundreds of stations costing millions 😱… so, don’t punish yourself so hard, just take it as a life lesson 👌. Cheers from 🇩🇪.
Oops 🙊
Or Coventry's swimming baths, opened with great fanfare and then they tried to hold a race, only to be told that the pool needed to be 50 *metres* not 50 *yards* !
Don’t worry about the French. BR did the same thing in the late 80s early 90s
Thank goodness you CAN modify the doors and apertures to suit larger vehicles! Better to do it now before the wonderful aging process takes hold to give all that lovely wood the "Why...I've been here forever! Where have YOU been living all this time, council member?" look.
The doors and bumpers of all your future test cars can breathe a sigh of relief! Aloha!
Exactly!
If you are going to the expence and bother of redoing the doors, you need to make them at least eight foot which is a comfortable size for a modern car. They're still going to be very tight even with the extra six inches you're adding. Glad to see at the end of this video you've went big.
Exactly. I see a third attempt otherwise.
These things happen all of us make mistakes. Glad you’re getting it sorted looks great Pete.
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You could have borrowed my tape measure!
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Always easy to spot something in hindsight. I bet you've made 100s of 'right' decisions with this build, so having one that was slightly out (but still rectifiable) is pretty damn impressive. Plus, it means we get a few extra videos out of it 😊
Exactly 👍
A few years ago I went from barn doors on our double garage to armoured roller shutters. First off - they look great as they are customed for a residential application. Secondly - my goodness, just 'loosing' the previous frames (a couple of inches each side and above as you have here Ped) - it made putting the cars in the garage so much easier.
A pity you have to have a fairly major revision, but good to accept and solve the problem early! Lovely build BTW!
Hello Peter. My goodness…I wish now that I had tried harder to warn that the doors were too narrow…I had to scrap the 7’ door on my garage but my luck was that it was brickwork either side so I could make the door ( electric panel sectional door) is 3.5m wide and I thank my stars I did that. However…now it looks transformed! Well done for bravery and biting an expensive bullet. For me it has made the whole job so much better…much more as you wanted! Good work on the gym equipment but I was shouting at the screen when you were too close to the ceiling! It all looks GOOD…now some nice wall fittings! Well done Peter…a bump in the road but it has turned out alright! So pleased for you and Hilary wants Darcy as her Guard Dog if she is ever looking for part time work! 😃😃😃😃😃Richard.
Thanks Richard 🙏🏻
You were really lucky the builders were available.
In your earlier post I thought the garage doors looked narrow but thought it was just an optical illusion because the building is so wide.Mind you, could’ve saved a fortune and just got two smaller cars 🤣
@@nickwebb9290 experienced builder's probably drive cars and should have had some idea on what happens when you add hinges and 2inch thick doors!
So did we 😂
OMG Ped i feel your pain when there is so much to do it is so easy to get something wrong. As a pet owner you will understand this I ordered and fitted blinds in the office I had the blinds over my patio door to open as the patio door slide but in the living room the doors we use to let the dogs out I did the blinds as a centre slider and it had bugged me for the past 17 years. So minor compared to your problem but al least you can sort it. Heartbreaking. At least you are doing it I have never changed my blind OMG what a cheap bugger LOL
It's sorted now and you'll be happy with the doors that's the main thing! Again great video!
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Oh Ped, I feel your pain. We have two standard size garages and until we bought a Skoda Enyaq they were fine. We measured it several times and knew it would be tight. However after a while of folding in the mirrors we took the decision to make it wider by a brick and a half. Worth every penny for peace of mind for those scrapes. 2.4m wide now, up and over sectional 👍🏻
I loved the MG Technogym kit from the 90's cycling team. Bartoli and Bettini were so damn cool with their nonchalant air and Coppi bikes, a golden era of pro cycling
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They say that hindsight is a wonderful thing - I know because I used to work for someone who had a degree in it!!! Fair play to you to accept the deficiency and then actually do something to rectify it otherwise it would always annoy you. Also I think the general look of the doors will be improved significantly because the width will match the height better. So well done Pete for biting the bullet now, as the project is looking fantastic and is very worthy of the extra cost to make it right.
I agree. It is going to look so much better 👍
Welcome to the world of project management. You’re not the first and you are definitely not the last. All the best.
I so feel for you. I've been in that place in my own building projects and its sickening and yet you have to just eat it up and do what's needed. Brilliant that you shared your vulnerability. This is all about being human. Love you mate.
Sorry to hear that the doors are not wide enough. Having a barn with the doors just wide enough. This would be priority number one for me if I would build a new garage. I would aim for 2,5 meters. I hope you can change this at reasonable cost.
Just one more 'problem' : you will have to substantially widen and reinforce every road in the UK and every parking bay marked on all the UK roads due to the ever increasing size and mass of new vehicles! I was about to leave our cat's vet practise yesterday in our Nissan X-trail 2024 when a 'tiny' car pulled in to the next bay; it was an Audi 3 hatchback....
Love that you have been honest and showed this…many TH-cam sites would have covered this up..
I'm so glad Pete you got it fixed . I thought from the beginning , How do you get a car through the small doors ?.. All is answered now ❤❤
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It will look awesome, much better with the extra wide doors.👏👏👏
Great gym setup!
As far as the doors, mistakes were made. Glad you have a solve, hopefully others will learn for their projects.
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You're going to be looking at it every day and with everything that's gone into it you have to put it right - correct decision.
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Glad you are able to rectify that relatively easy. I also think aesthetically the wider doors will suit the barn much better. You’ll be enjoying it soon enough😊
I hope so too!
A really good choice would have been doors that slide along the interior walls. What I mean is a door that opens from, for example, right to left and the door then goes along the interior wall on the inside when it opens, it doesn't curl up. It only takes like maybe at most 8 inches from the interior wall and obviously you can't use the walls but it gives you the full size of your opening as useful
As someone facing this middle-class problem myself - I noticed your doors in the flooring video and was surprised you hadn't gone at least double + single.
Well, with the doors, a mistaking sometimes happened and luckily it fixable Pete. Love the gymsetup
Indeed 👍
Stay positive Pete, remember the saying..
‘When one door closes, another LARGER door opens’
Still look fabulous 👍🏻
Absolutely 👍
Oh dear, well life is all about the learning experience and any build project will present challenges. You're doing the right thing by making the changes now. In a year or two you won't even remember you stress you're going through now. It will all be worth it... Good luck with the final push...
You should probably put mat's under the treadmill, We have a treadmill on second floor on carpet and without the mats it makes a hell of a racket downstairs. Looks really good, I'd suggest for your desk if you use a laptop to get a docking station and dual 4k monitors and a decent chair, Makes a hell of a difference to the ergonomics when your sat at a desk for hours on end. You must be really proud of what you've got at the end of the project. With the Doors, Sometimes this stuff happens. With all the foresight in the world at least it's minor in comparison to structural issues.
There is a Texhnogym mat under it 👍
Looks like your dream garage is turning into a bit of a nightmare! 😂 In all fairness, we all respect you for holding your hands up, and admitting the mistake, and not blaming anyone else 👍 It’s definitely the right time to put it right. It’s going to look awesome once it’s all done 👏🏻 I must say I have throughly enjoyed this series, and have excitedly clicked on each video when a new one was released 😀 Keep them coming! Best wishes, Victor
Thanks great to hear. Thanks for tuning in 👍
No problems ONLY solutions. My hubby & myself have done a few builds and this is our saying. It will be right but also make sure there’s enough room (width) for the automated brackets also as they will stick out also ☺️ if they are placed at top of doors then shouldn’t be a problem but if placed in bottom/middle that could also be a problem BUT only solutions 💯
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. If anyone manages to bottle it, they will be instant millionaire. At least you fixed now.
Yep 👍
Cars are so much wider now I think it's the right decision. I bought a Corsa specifically because it fits easily into our 1970's integral garage.
Great idea 👍
It happens Pete, I’ve done a number of renovations and even when you think you’ve cracked it there are always some decisions that snowball into issues. Just one of those things, completely right decision to suck it up now and deal with it. 👍 Will be awesome!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Garage looks great. LOVE the interior lighting. 👍
No one has ever built a structure and not wished they’d done something different. Luckily here, you can fix it relatively easily. It’s only money at this point.
My only (totally non-solicited 😳) suggestion would be to make the doors as wide as possible. Can they be 3 meters wide?
If you have to tear down and reconstruct, you might as well push the envelop as far as possible.
Regardless, what an incredible project. A little jealous 😜 but super excited and happy for you Pete. 👍
O well Pete, I know it’s a big job and upsetting to see what looked like a fantastic job done been taken apart . But I’m with you take it on the chin and have it right because that would drive me mad and I would regret not doing it. I know it’s an extra expense you could do without but over time it will be worth it. Looking forward to seeing the finished place in all its glory.
You weren't supposed to blow the bloody doors off! Haha. Don't beat yourself up about it Pete. You live and learn. It's looking amazing! Can't wait to see the final product.
You gym looks fantastic.The guys have done a great job it won’t be long and it will all be worth the wait 👍
Hope so!
Very honest video as ever. Best to get it sorted now, everything else looks so good. In mitigation, you probably haven't garaged a car for years, so didn't realise that 7 feet isn't wide enough for modern cars. The Fiat 500X I used to have needed its mirrors folding (manually) to get it into my garage, so at that point I converted it to a workshop!
Yep. Very true 👍
Fair play to you Ped for recording the modifications including all the mess it has made. I would have been inclined to admit the error AFTER everything had been completed. Superb garage/gym/office I’m not envious in the slightest 😊
It is so convenient to have home fitness equipment available whenever you want to use it, rather than going to a gym. Enjoyed the video!
If it helps, when I built my house I drew up the basic plans, my son converted them into a CAD drawing , then they were redrawn by an Architect. We all missed a vital factor in one room, the thickness of the dry lining. The room is 45mm too small for the white goods and kitchen cabinets that were to go in.
My Garage door is 10 ft wide, the MG Midget fits in perfectly!, The cars we use live outdoors.
Oops 🙊
so glad you were in a position to fix this, and that though this looked/was a big error, it was relatively straightforward to deal with.
Its no big deal they look great, last week I built up a double wardrobe in our daughters room, it was expensive and complicated, I had to build it in the room, due to height, one very long day later it was finished, my wife and two daughters thought it look amazing, it only required the interior lights fitted....then it struck me I had built it upside down 😮😮😮
Damn.....who signed that off!! Measure several times before cutting 😅
Our internal house garage struggled to fit a Ford Fiesta in. It's now been converted to a super sized kitchen as it wasn't useable as a garage. I thought everyone knew how bad standard UK garages were? If only he'd asked viewers for advice first. 😊
Change the hinges to have front hinge mounted to front of garage. Door will then recess as the door opens. Leaving full width of opening. Have the hinge set on front wall and have it so it overlaps the wall by 2 inches on each hinge. When door opens it will leave. 2 inch gap. Nothing expensive just need an iron monger to mate the hinges strong enough to cope with the extra 2 inches of leaverage
Hi there.
Just watched your video and your problem with the doors standing inside the door aperture.
Because you were using butt hinges right on the edge of the door frame, it would always mean the door thickness would reduce the aperture because the doors would sit inside the frame opening.
You could have used hinge bands with the hinge pins being positioned on the other side of the door frame as this would throw the doors out clear of the door frame opening.
I know you would still have needed to remove the overlapping cladding on the outside, but it would have been a lot easier than starting again.
Also if you take my tip, don't paint the doors and cladding with paint as this will be difficult to maintain in the future. Instead, use a "Spirit" based coating as this is much easier to maintain long term.😊
You missed out the best piece of gym equipment, the indoor rower.
I use the water Rower it uses water resistance and you get the sound to go.
Best all round cardio/strength endurance machine.
As for the garage doors,DOH!!
When Vincenzo Lancia built his first car in 1906
he could not get it out the door was to narrow!
So he used a sledge hammer and demolished the bricks surrounding the door!
The old adage is measure twice and cut once and I've learned that the hard way.
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That what the space to the left of the bike is for 👍
Wide enough for a few more road bikes though Ped!😆
Oh yes 🙌
When I saw the door openings I thought they were narrow but remembering how small my mum's garage doors are (which can barely fit a Vauxhall Astra) I thought that's just how they do things in the UK. Your old doors look like they might fit a 1960's Mini or Hillman Imp comfortably but not any modern family car. Your new doors will work a treat and look great. My North American double car garage door is 16ft (4.88m) wide.
Always worth over specifying on projects, otherwise you only regret it! I went wider and longer on my garage, by some margin, but glad I did!
The lighting and flooring look amazing! Can’t win them all!!
Bet that was fun explaining to Mrs P.
What an idiot. lol
Yep she will be Dining out on that one for a long time😂
Err yeah…didn’t do down too well 😬😂
@@PetrolPed I'll bet your ears are still burning. 🥴
Lovely gym setup (he says, sitting on the sofa). Love the idea of using your gym but wanting powered doors 🤣
The whole garage looks absolutely terrific. The door job being fixable will soon be forgotten, everyone makes mistakes except the man that doesn't and we've all met one of those!
Aesthetically doing both doors makes more sense.
I agree 👍
Ped this happens all the time with self builds we had to redo the entire flooring due to miscalculation by the architect. I think like others have mentioned the biggest mistake was not unpacking the gym stuff on the ground floor and then carrying the individual bits upstairs. Looking forward to the final grand opening I think Ruby Roadster should have the honours of being first car in to cut the ribbon.
Very true 👍
its all about the hinges, using different hinges you could move the pivot point so the door swing out of the way. This would be even easier if you go with floor mounted openers as you can pretty much put the pivot point were you want (was a while ago now, but spent over 10 years of fitting auto gates and garage doors..). However you are right to change them for as wide as you can, never had a complaint the doors were to big from the customer, only the engineers who had to try and make hinges for the extra weight (the wider the door/gate the more side load on the hinge). Also be careful how you do the centre gap to prevent jamming or massive gaps when they change size summer/winter..
It feels like you have been poorly advised by your door manufacturers and/or the building contractors. They should have known the aperture was very tight by the plans.
Believe it or not I had something similar and it wasn’t until an architect friend pointed it out during a social visit that we saved ourselves a few thousand pounds.
Just thought, what about your nice flooring? It won’t butt up to the skirting!!
I have to say though that the quality and classy look of your garage conversion is exceptional.
I would be very pleased with the finished product.
Really, really pleased for you and not a little envious …..😁
It was just one of those oversights. I just need a few extra tiles to cut into the new skirting profile 👍
It happens mate! Going to look amazing and a practical space!
Pete, I have up and over automated. I park my 992 in the garage , and have to fold the mirrors every time. I did get used to it, and I double check every entry and exit. I was dealing with a brick built garage and had no choice. Take care and put a MIRRORS sign on the wall until you have nailed. Good luck.
Pity you've had to go back a little and modify the doors/ openings, but atleast it's better done now. As mentioned just an oversite from the builder, would've expected them to say that they need enough room when the doors are on and open not just the gap before they're hung. Never mind, it'll look better for it. I remember when I best friend had his garage built they used a double door opening wide enough to fit a Range Rover in it and close it whilst you walked around the car.
Spot on decision to sort both doors, a little pain now will be well worth it!! Great space, very jealous of your garage / office set up
Much better Pete, they were far too narrow. Negligent of your door builder and tradespeople to build and fit doors that you can’t even fit a Range Rover through - especially as they know you test different cars. Sounds like you convinced yourself 7ft was a ‘standard’ door, whereas in fact garage doors are sold in various sizes.
No negligence. It was my call 😢
@ they should have refused to fit and build them, not fit for purpose. Doesn’t matter what the customer says if you can’t fit a 2024 modern car in.
I retired from surveying and selling Garage doors in August. Absolute minimum width for modern cars is 2438. Unfortunately with side hung the thickness of the doors also narrow the opening. Although you wont get the look you want, best doors for you would be compact rollers in a wood grain finish fitted behind the openings.
These things happen! Ive been there 😅. Glad to see it can be sorted. Garage is coming along really nicely. Loving those lights 😁
Thanks Buddy 👍
looks absolutely fantastic we all make mistakes only human so jealous of your build
Thanks Tony 🙏🏻
I questioned the door width weeks ago.... far too narrow, especially when your ev charger is in the garage!!
I know 😬😂
Hey,these things happen.The main thing is it can be fixed.Once it's done, it will be terrific.
Exactly 👍
I feel for you Pete. Frustrating to say the least but the refit will be well worth it. In time, you'll look back and be proud of the whole project you managed and laugh it off about 'door-gate'. Have a good weekend 👍
Feel for you buddy 🫣 At least it will be perfect now! Amazing how doors that looked too small, were in fact too small 😘
Feeling your pain Pete, although it will cost you more money it’s your dream garage. I’ve enjoyed watching the series.
Having all but rebuilt an entire house I can sympathise with how difficult it can be to think of every single detail, so don’t beat yourself up over this. Quite agree that sorting it out now is the most sensible option. You’ll only regret not doing it for ever if you don’t and it’s probably cheaper now than leaving it till later anyway.
Pete you do realise on TH-cam you never admit to mistakes :) I suspect the majority of people are nodding as they remember similar 'obvious' mistakes we've all made. I think you were right to address it right away, you'd have never got the time back and it would've soured your enjoyment. Looking forward to seeing the finished project. PS I wonder if you should include a section in your next vlog titled 'Things I learned during the build,....' Cheers, Kevin
I do it all the time 😂
I did think it was an optical illusion from the video when the doors went on that they looked narrow. Lesson learnt lol. Measure twice cut once. 👍👍 still looks great Pete.
unfortunate, but the build looks great! Had a similar issue when I built the off-road parking at our house. The local council wasn't happy, said the spaces were too small for building regs.... until I pointed out that I had used the measurements of the parking spaces at the council offices....😂
You can never have too wide a garage door. They look better aesthetically and offer much more room. I thought the openings were way too small early in the build. The doors should be a rectangle not a square.
Sorry pete but I knew when it was first built the doors looked a little narrow on camera but glad you have addressed it the gym looks fine just needs some art work on the walls.👍
Art work and bikes 👍
😢 well, you want it right !!! It's definitely the right move. Now you'll have to get a hummer or Brabus wagon with all that room !!!
LOL 😂
These things happen. At the end of the day getting it sorted straight away was the right thing to do. I had some renovations and made a bad call at the time and it cost twice as much later to fix.
Exactly 👍
Loving the gym. Just need some mirrors and mats as you say. Sod’s Law on the doors, but as you say best to get it “fixed” now 🙌
You live and learn. Right decision to get it sorted and not live with a compromise.
Completely the right decision to make the changes now. You live and learn! It’s going to be amazing #garageenvy!
Don’t worry about the running equipment you’ve got the men 😂
have to say the Garage is looking spectacular absolutely wonderful very enjoyable video as always
Mistakes happen, it's how you deal with them... clearly you and the Team able to get a good fix!!
Yep 👍