Vespa: Best Brand or Just Overpriced?

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  • Vespa scooters are more expensive than other brands regarded as 'quality buys', but is the premium price for a Vespa worth it? How much more expensive are we talking, and what do you get for your money? 🔽🔽🔽🔽
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  • @donaldames124
    @donaldames124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    I'm almost 80 years old and as a result of riding for 55+ years, have accumulated over 500,000 miles on two-wheeled vehicles. Two of them have been Vespas (GT200 and a brand new GTS 300 HPE) I also owned and rode a Kymco 150 Like. All the rest of have been motorcycles, ranging from 90CC to 1600CC. There is a difference between Vespas and other scooters. Some call it heritage, a lifestyle, a culture....and you do pay extra for it. The same holds true for Harley Davidson motorcycles. What I also know is that at 80 years of age, I am no longer strong enough to "horse around" 700 to 900 lb. motorcycles. My GTS 300 at 360 pounds fits my present physical strength just fine, and I still take great joy at leaving most cars "in the dust" when I take off from a stop light. Having said that, I try to always remember that it's not what you ride, but that you're riding. Enjoy your two wheels, and stay safe!

    • @Felix-fy7ki
      @Felix-fy7ki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This comment is describing it perfectly!

    • @ashleyrhodes9974
      @ashleyrhodes9974 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Kymco Like is a great scooter. Superb look and overbraked for such a light vehicle. Plus, ownership allows you to stick two fingers up to the Chinese Communist Party. What's not to like?

    • @mickturner957
      @mickturner957 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've heard it said this way...It's Not the Bike, It's
      the Ride

    • @davidd1289
      @davidd1289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you ever had a bad accident? 500000 miles wow

    • @arioskuter8926
      @arioskuter8926 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you mean it's still suitable for 80 years old Sir?

  • @speedfinder1
    @speedfinder1 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Great video, and you have pointed out the most significant "User requirement advantages" that set VESPA away from the competition. Here's my take on it, If I may....as someone who has run all sorts of motorcycles including VESPA products. Firstly, have to say that I no commercial connection to the VESPA brand, I've 40 plus years of experience of 2 wheeled transport and my experience tells me one over-riding truth. THE difference is simple. You can still buy service parts for the original 1940s Vespa Scooters in Italian dealer shops. The internet is a wonderful thing! I don't think you will be able to say that for KYMCO in 70 years time. Vespa scooters cost way more to make than an alternative brand as they are built to be ABLE to be repaired. Even the very latest ones are built to be able to be repaired and give very long service. Pay Cheap, pay twice as they say.

  • @lanceferraro3781
    @lanceferraro3781 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've ridden two wheels for 55 years, from BMWs, to Hondas and everything else. I had knee injuries in the Navy, and that stopped me from riding motorcycles because my right knee bending is limited, bend it too much for too long and, oh, the pain. Scooters are like sitting in a chair. I've had a 1987 Honda Elite 150 for 13 years, I added a Honda 250 Reflex, then a Suzuki Burgman 400 and now, what you bought, a 2017 Vespa GTS 300, in Ferrari red, after all, I am Italian and my last name is close enough, Ferraro. It will cruise at 65 to 70 easy. Thanks for the episodes.

  • @JoeDplummer_
    @JoeDplummer_ ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Owning a Vespa is different … Vespas are not just a scooter you own. They are part of the family ❤

  • @Ontheroadtourism
    @Ontheroadtourism ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I have always had sports bikes, but a couple of weeks ago I bought my first Vespa 300 HPE. It's become my preferred mode of transport and is so much fun. The Vespa definitely feels premium and I have no regrets buying it. Great review BTW.

  • @WHOAMI-vi1xr
    @WHOAMI-vi1xr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    If you disassemble the Vespa scooter and the other scooters you will understand for sure that they are poles apart. Only the Indian made Vespas are a disgrace to the Piaggio group("Make in India project"--Govt of India) by my experience within a year they made me a "scooter mechanic" it all started from the cheap quality ignition rotary switch and list simply goes on and on .😍😍😍 Nice work . From Kerala ,India.

    • @trivikramgavara
      @trivikramgavara ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you please elaborate on why you had to refer Make In India and Govt of India into this discussion about Vespas?

    • @nitroAle
      @nitroAle ปีที่แล้ว

      Man,I don't know... I'm Italian, I own a Pk50s from 82, a Cosa 125 from 88, and a lml star 200 4t. And i love the star. It's a evolution from the px serie.

    • @fasullodavvero
      @fasullodavvero ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nitroAle " And i love the star. It's a evolution from the px "
      Amico mio,tu hai poche idee mooooooolto confuse sulla LML

    • @goawaytours
      @goawaytours ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Modern Italian made Vespas are shockingly bad. Frames rust in front of your eyes and the engines are unreliable. The Indian ones go on forever. Older Italian heritage geared Vespas we’re great.

    • @fasullodavvero
      @fasullodavvero ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goawaytours Dovresti parlare solo di cose che conosci,e tu le Vespe *NON* le conosci.

  • @lizstrangesavage7948
    @lizstrangesavage7948 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Appreciated your review and notes on the differences between your two wheel experiences. And, I loved taking a ride around the Ft. Collins area. My sister-in-law used to live there, but we haven't been in quite a while. Planning on buying a Vespa 300 HPE too! Thanks again!

  • @soulslaveone
    @soulslaveone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Channel You`ve got here, lady! Been riding all sorts of scooters for 25 years (Im 44 now) but just bought my third Vespa (... and second GTS:) Love the community and love Vespas. Gonna be pimping my new GTS this winter, for sure. ALL bells and whistles. Please make episodes about all the great accessories you can get for the Vespas. The selection of accessories, Vespas own or aftermarket, is huge! Greetings from a Norwegian Scooterist.

  • @katrinafaealignay6611
    @katrinafaealignay6611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simple and straight to the point. I love your vlog!

  • @caffeineman72
    @caffeineman72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm loving your videos, I've been a motorcyclist for 30 years but just bought a pair of Buddy Scooters for my son and I to enjoy together. I have the 170i and he has the 125, and your videos have been really helpful. Also, I used to live in the Houston area, North Houston in Cypress, and South Houston in Pearland - that traffic is no joke.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! You've got an automatic buddy to ride Buddys with! That makes me smile. Hopefully you can keep smiling with minimal traffic wherever you landed! I take 518 often into Pearland, but I can't imagine Cypress traffic!

  • @omgwtfMindyloo
    @omgwtfMindyloo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you! I am looking at all brands of scooters, and the ABS on the Vespa gives it a serious edge!

    • @Gabriel-kz6kb
      @Gabriel-kz6kb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't know how it is in the US but here in Europe all Brands have ABS. (They need it at least on one axle by law)

  • @sdfsdghhjjf3880
    @sdfsdghhjjf3880 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought a Vespa S50 2 stroke 2010, best bike I have ever owned and done literally thousands of miles which touch wood have been trouble free, the build, ride quality and handling are fantastic.

  • @markmoffett6813
    @markmoffett6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was a great video and I have thoroughly enjoyed all of them. BUT
    now you are including the Vespa in your films
    Love it , Love it , Love it
    Thank you very much.
    Mark from Maryland

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Mark! It’s a great scooter, but I’m going to struggle to let my beloved Buddy Kick go in the same breath! 😂

  • @user-dz6oq3gk3w
    @user-dz6oq3gk3w 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great review. You ticked the topic very well. I have had a Vespa Sprint 150cc, which I now miss and am thinking
    about the GTS 300 before the
    next summer.

  • @SmartFamilyMoney
    @SmartFamilyMoney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is a great video! Thanks for explaining the differences. Sounds like I would probably appreciate the quality of a Vespa.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! You have no idea what your support means to me!

  • @demon39063
    @demon39063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing all of your research with everyone! This was wonderfully helpful. Cheers

  • @ScooterwolfsMotovlog
    @ScooterwolfsMotovlog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    When I first got the scooter bug I wanted nothing but a Vespa. An ET4 particularly. This was around 2005/06, but when I finally got my license in 2010 and went to look at Vespas again they had priced themselves out of my business. Plus, I had since discovered that they tended to have electrical problems or were difficult to find parts for, or they took a while to order. It’s still a great brand, but not the only amazing fish in the sea.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are sooo right…. There are a ton of great scooters out there, so spending beyond the value it provides you is foolish!

    • @rossydv
      @rossydv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ScooterNewbie but any that aren't repulsive?

    • @geraldscott4302
      @geraldscott4302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ScooterNewbie There may be a lot of decent scooters out there, but there is only one Vespa. I noticed that you did wind up with one after all.

    • @SakuraPT2
      @SakuraPT2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, it's more easier to find parts for Vespa here in Europe and find second hands to, my dream is to one day own a vespa and a classic fiat lol

    • @ScooterwolfsMotovlog
      @ScooterwolfsMotovlog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SakuraPT2 I would also jump at a chance to get a Vespa. It's so iconic and cool. A 50cc would be perfect because my wife could ride it as well.

  • @hotchihuahua1546
    @hotchihuahua1546 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In 98 I was a trained mechanic for Ducati , Aprilia , Moto Guzzi & Vespa . I have owned all but the Aprilia but not because it wasn’t a quality motorcycle . It had to do with what I liked . I owned and tested both the Vespa ET2 and ET4 . Both models were fun , solid and reliable to drive . Vespa has built its reputation through many years of development . They are the premier classic scooter to own if you can afford one .

  • @donelmore2540
    @donelmore2540 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A few years ago, I bought a used Vespa 300 GTV in CA. It’s a very fun scooter. When I bought a house in TX, I was looking for a Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive. I looked and rode 2 used ones and passed on them. They weren’t as fast out of the hole, weren’t as smooth and the “transmission” feels weird when slowing to a stop. I then found a new one just out of the box at a dealer in Houston (they quit importing them in 2018 for some reason) and I got it for $3K under sticker. It rides the same as the used ones. It’s main advantage is that it is more competent at 65mph+ than the Vespa-plus it has a power windshield and power mirrors.

  • @nctexan1970
    @nctexan1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for creating this channel and the content. I own a HUGE touring bike that I use as a daily commuter and long trip ride. BUT my 1.5 hour one way work commute on a bike, year round…even in the snow…is making my wife nervous. I am looking at selling my big bike and using the cash to purchase a Vespa for both of us, and a dirt bike for my adventure fix.
    Keep up the content! Good stuff. I think we will get a Vespa 150cc Tour. Ciao!

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my… year round…1.5 hours… in the snow even?! Hard core rider! Kudos for looking for a win-win in the house, too. 😂
      Please share when you guys get your scooters! I’m thrilled to hear that kind of good news!! I had no idea that I’d be making scooter content, but that kind of story is why I make time for it. ❤️

    • @darcychu9652
      @darcychu9652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be safer to buy scooter with ABS snd TCS for long commuting. The smaller wheels on scooters might require you to change your riding habits. 150 c.c. might not be powerful to carry both of you for touring. A scooter of long wheel base with top box to lean on for back seat passenger could be more comfortable on long ride. There are plenty of scooters around 300 c.c. could be your choice.

  • @62heinkel
    @62heinkel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good video. Riding Vespas since 1995 from 200 cc Rally 200 ( 1977 ) to currently on a 2008 GTS 300. Also , never buy new ! There is always a nearly new second hand one out there from someone who had second thoughts about rinding / owning two wheels. That's how you get your massive discount on brand new dealer prices.

    • @nickblue3
      @nickblue3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats the way to do it! I got a 2020 Vespa GTS Touring with HPE for $5300 and it had only 635 miles and equipped with beautiful hard case, same color!

    • @OB1_Kenobi8
      @OB1_Kenobi8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your comment is what I was looking for. Im just about to buy a vespa but saw secondhand vespas for sale. Thanks

  • @brentcollins9727
    @brentcollins9727 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Houston!!! Galleria area. I have no idea why this video popped up but I sure did enjoy it. You have a new subscriber!

  • @pretzelogic2689
    @pretzelogic2689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice overview. You covered all the right stuff.

  • @henkjeoma8069
    @henkjeoma8069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't have to much experience on anything other than piaggio's but what I can say is the Piaggio mono front forks ride so much better than anything else they make a huge difference.

  • @chuckbayman
    @chuckbayman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video, over the last 20 year I've owned alot of big name scooters, in my opinion nothing beats the iconic vespa.i own 250ie vespa and nothing beats the fun,the ride and lots of people come over when I'm stopped and want to know about it thanks for your video

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s so good to hear you say that about the Vespa with your experience! I never know if I’m newbie naive or it’s a legit feeling when I hop on & discover something new-to-me. I spent 6 months test driving all the scooters in this range that I could in this case…just to make sure!

    • @chuckbayman
      @chuckbayman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie heres one more thing, vespas will last longer than other scooters.watch vespa scooters on any you videos and look how many are older models.20 thru 50 plus years old.mine will probably be my last buy

    • @geddstock
      @geddstock ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll raise you the lambretta f you think a Vespa looks better than a lambretta your fuckin blind….

  • @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
    @AntonioBarba_TheKaneB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my first two wheeler was a Vespa PK50 from 1988, it was slow af but a lot of fun!

  • @AVeryBritishBiker
    @AVeryBritishBiker ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yeah the reason people love Vespa so much (apart from its looks of course) is its history. Scooters existed before the Vespa but the Vespa was the ancestor of basically all scooters as we know them today. Sure there are plenty of very good competitors out there (several of which I have owned and loved) but none of them have that history and just pure class. That's what you pay for, if its worth the extra money or not is down to the individual but there's clearly more than enough people willing to pay the extra to keep them in business.

    • @mickturner957
      @mickturner957 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking of Brittish, I purchased a 1972 Norton Comando Combat, it was a 750cc and did a sub 12 second quarter mile, pretty fast in that day in time. One scooter/bike I always wanted but never got was a Mustang Stallion, they were a small motorcycle and ran quite fast for a 12HP motor. Look them up, they have a lot of class!

  • @nathanprentice7230
    @nathanprentice7230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the fact that in your US dealership there's a union jack by the vespa's. It's weird how the UK has become synonymous and inseparable with scooters. I'm not sure about modern scooters but they have a good reputation here in the UK. Scomadi and Royal alloy are both good also. Are they worth the extra? I don't know. I would imagine they are. In the long run you'll never have a problem with parts and there will always be mechanics that can work on them. I can still buy parts for my lambretta gp despite the fact that lambretta went out of business in 1971. Also if you want to tune your scooter there are a lot of companies catering for vespa.

  • @industryliaison
    @industryliaison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! Very grateful for your video! What is it like scooting around Houston? I’m shopping for a scooter/moped for the Atlanta area which I assume might be similar to Houston. Your video was really helpful! I’m looking forward to watching more.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t know why this comment just showed up for me, but I’d think driving is similar between ATL & HOU. People just aren’t looking out for 2 wheelers everywhere for sure. Suburban moms are worse than big trucks, though. 😂 Stay alert & enjoy the ride!

  • @BridgeandTunnelScooterClub
    @BridgeandTunnelScooterClub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    had a P200 , have a Sport 100, PGO, Honda Elite 150 and a 2019 Primavera. It not just about price. Quality and tradition is what matters.

  • @dannydelray8546
    @dannydelray8546 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice presentation - so honest and straight. I feel the same about the Vespa.

  • @films9519
    @films9519 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a vespa px 200 with gears, great fun to ride and love the smell of the two stroke..

  • @Earnknee555
    @Earnknee555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. Thoroughly enjoyed your video and the information you shared.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Do you have a Vespa? Or just curious?

    • @Earnknee555
      @Earnknee555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie I had a 1965 Vespa as a kid. Metallic blue with chrome wrap around engine / rear bars.

  • @scottybintn3061
    @scottybintn3061 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great overview, and very accurate!

  • @scootahead7930
    @scootahead7930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Videos are AWESOME!!!! Congratulations on the NEW VESPA!!!!

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks on both fronts! I follow you on IG, but somehow I didn’t realize you have a channel until today!

  • @36summers
    @36summers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a owner of a 1970 Vespa GTR in the UK, I can honestly say it was a great review. It's about time a lady in the scooter world did a comparison and a critique. You do pay for the brand, that's just life. But you do buy into the heritage that's lasted the time and has developed scootering for other brands to use.

    • @geraldscott4302
      @geraldscott4302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Besides a 2006 Vespa GT200, I also Have a 1979 Vespa P200E 2 stroke manual shift manual clutch scooter. I will never give that one up. But I have been seriously considering trading my GT200 for a 300GTS. It's the HPE thing that scares me. They cut the major maintenance intervals literally in half. That has to make you wonder. And if you are a high mileage rider like I am (60K+ miles on my GT200) all that maintenance could get VERY expensive. Why is it necessary on the HPE and not on the regular GTS300?

    • @mickturner957
      @mickturner957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My heritage with Vespa goes back to when they had handlebars...

  • @SuperExadidas
    @SuperExadidas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video...thanks.

  • @mikenixon4637
    @mikenixon4637 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you did a good job on this. Both objective and subjective, empirical as well as nuanced.

  • @farleyboy1968
    @farleyboy1968 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I am a motorbike newbie and enjoyed your video. I own a 2014 Can Am Spyder STS with 2 up capability. I hope to buy my now 12 year old daughter her first scooter someday. I hope you and your family have a fabulous summer.

  • @Magoo652
    @Magoo652 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good answer! If you want to improve performance of your scooter, Vespa has more off the shelf gear to do that compared to the OTHER brands of scooter.

  • @floridasaltlife
    @floridasaltlife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You along with many others caused me to go take a test ride and I was sold within 1 block 1 turn and 1 speed bump. Took the 2022 demo back and bought a new white 2023 GTS SS Loving this new ride and my Honda Forza 300 is reluctantly for sale as it is a great bike too but just not of the same level as Vespa..

  • @FellipeRodrigues89
    @FellipeRodrigues89 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great review

  • @x0mercedes0x
    @x0mercedes0x ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, You're so cool and I really appreciate your spreadsheet.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words, & glad you found the spreadsheet helpful.

  • @LCasson2417
    @LCasson2417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and I love your Vespa!! Definitely the weight of that beautiful scooter will be like going from a tiny car to large car. From a Suzuki Burgman fan(atic) 🤣 to you, great job!! 😁

  • @annairre
    @annairre ปีที่แล้ว

    my vespa come out next week!!!..u make me more exiteddd

  • @davek9384
    @davek9384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have to admit I laughed out loud at the price tag at 0:13 for the "VEPSA." Oops. As always, appreciate the details and analyses, and in this video the detailed price comparison at the 300cc class. Well done!
    I know you've been shopping for a while now, wondering if you've seen a lot of variability on the dealer add-on costs beyond the MSRP? Maybe a video topic?

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, let me document that. It’s not as different as you’d think, but it DEFINITELY adds a lot to that MSRP. 😣

  • @abelmayorga
    @abelmayorga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great video. Vespas are nice. Many of my friends are part of Vespa clubs. However, I just want a scooter to get me to work and back home. Price is a factor. Even when I rode motorcycles, I did not care about looking cool. I care about going to work.

  • @certifiedbruhmoment85
    @certifiedbruhmoment85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always enjoy your videos so much! It makes me hope for more scooter dealers in Puerto Rico, haha! 🛵 Thanks for this video (and all of your videos) it's so helpful to me. I get excited when I see you post 🤣

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I would have thought Puerto Rico would be a great place to ride, so it’s shocking to me that you don’t have more options!

    • @estebanaquinorivera7653
      @estebanaquinorivera7653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hey! nice to see other puertoricans here. I have never ever riden a scooter but its been a dream of mine since a year ago now that i got a house of my own. Too bad the market here is really niche and the streets don't feel as safe for cyclists. Do you have your licence? what has been your experience?

    • @certifiedbruhmoment85
      @certifiedbruhmoment85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@estebanaquinorivera7653 Heya! I wish I could help, but currently I'm just researching everything first. If I do manage to get a scooter sometime, I'll try to remember to tell you! 👍

    • @certifiedbruhmoment85
      @certifiedbruhmoment85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie Yeah, it's sad. But I hope that when I need one, I can buy one here!

  • @evancheng1908
    @evancheng1908 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, just curious but do you use your scooter as your daily ride during winter?

  • @maxi5784
    @maxi5784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great info…very informative

  • @mike.p.1400
    @mike.p.1400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve heard that when you buy a vespa it does not come assembled. You have to pay for the assembly.

  • @caoimhin7122
    @caoimhin7122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you looked into Piaggio scooters, like the Liberty range? Also, have you looked at the newer electric ones? Like the Vespa Elettrica or the Piaggio 1 Active?

  • @camelramel7035
    @camelramel7035 ปีที่แล้ว

    solid review. Lot of good information. Been riding motorcyles for 20+ years and have been looking for last two years at scooters. Live in a cool place to cruise and am looking for something simple. Not highway speeds so looking at 150cc not the 300. Though I tend to think bigger is better, I just don't think I'll ever use it.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว

      I like a solid 150 myself! Keep the nimble vibes with more than enough oomph for cruising around. Can't wait to hear what you choose!

  • @TheMaggieMia
    @TheMaggieMia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can buy something besides a Piaggio brand/Vespa but several years down the road my Vespa will still be running and I can still get parts for my Vespa, including that 1978 P125X

  • @barackmycat9448
    @barackmycat9448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. I found the Honda PCX worked quite well for me. Variety is a good thing.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are absolutely spot on with the variety! (and thank you!)

    • @johnbellamy6449
      @johnbellamy6449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have owned two p c x s ,great machines .

    • @Thecuredublin-tw8cf
      @Thecuredublin-tw8cf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honda is much better like Vespa . I have SH

  • @MostlyInteresting
    @MostlyInteresting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey short riders looking for a bike. There are a ton of Honda Rebel 250s' out there and they are faster than a scoot of the same size and cheap. Good way to get the skills to move to a bike later.

  • @groverearp2600
    @groverearp2600 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 73 now and at age 14 I was growing up in Oklahoma at that time you could get a license at 14. My parents bought me a Vespa 150 , it was a great time and place to grow up in America. I still ride motorcycles but will probably end my riding life on a Vespa.

  • @liverpudlian6205
    @liverpudlian6205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vespa is a great scooter ther well built with quality metal and the engine is reliable mine is a 2015 model gts125ie with 21,000 miles and it's been great very reliable have a look at royal alloy gp300 liquid cooled scooter it uses a vespa engine and looks exactly like a lambretta. Great video

  • @BirneDruide
    @BirneDruide ปีที่แล้ว

    0:54 right side the red edition I got one aswell it’s so beautiful

  • @cjvillaluna2413
    @cjvillaluna2413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TY for this. What are your thoughts on the Lance Havana?

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I liked it, and it was on my short list when I first started riding. Have you seen one in person yet? Love the classic look of it!

  • @marty37
    @marty37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Renee. Another great video. Thanks for your input on the Vespa. Yes, Vespa is a bit more pricey so you really got to think if you’re willing to pay the price. But if the Vespa model you check out have what you’re looking for and rides comfortable and willing to pay for the cost then it’s with getting. It sounded like you needed a scooter that had a bit more Go for that Houston driving. So, it’s understandable why you would look into a more powerful scooter. So, did you get that White Vespa? That was a nice scooter. I see you came to San Antonio and went to the Motorcycle Shop. I from SA. I hope you enjoyed the trip to SA and your visit to the Motorcycle Shop. That’s where I’m going to get my scooter at. Anyways, Thanks again for the video. I always enjoy watching them. Be Well.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have been to The Motorcycle Shop several times in this process, and Jason & team have been super helpful (not to mention patient). 😂
      Check out the KYMCO People when you visit. It’s solid competition to the Liberty you had your eye on.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh. And budget time & money for the food in that same strip center. We have now savored at all (tacos, burgers, dessert & Carribean), and we haven’t had anything less than awesome! 😆

  • @garyrobinson6247
    @garyrobinson6247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Vespa 180 rally back in 1973 at the age of 17 bought for less than £100.

  • @paulgentile1024
    @paulgentile1024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love those Vespas since I was 8 years old in 1965 while visiting family in Greece...way cool

  • @2e0bgb
    @2e0bgb ปีที่แล้ว

    Good presentation, I totally agree with all you say....Vespa rules for design..

  • @tomgucwa7319
    @tomgucwa7319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vespa is great - they have 59-70 years of research and development- built in..it's refined...nudged twords perfect..one model year at a time , style is nice , but the man hole cover ...it is steady in rough seas..you much safer when your in command an control..smoothness is pure safety ( too)...

  • @wonderwoman4875
    @wonderwoman4875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for this review. I’ve had my eye on a Vespa for a while now, but when I went to my local scooter shop recently and sat on one, my heart sank. I barely touched the ground! I’m 5’2” and it was just too high. I will be taking a basic rider course in a few weeks and when I do purchase my scooter, I have decided on a Buddy Kick because I can sit on that one comfortably. Maybe when I get more comfortable riding, I’ll move onto my dream scooter, but for now, dropping $6k on a scooter, that I might drop, doesn’t make sense. Congrats on your new Vespa!

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know that feeling you’re talking about! I KNEW I was getting the Like, but I KNEW I wasn’t getting it as soon as I sat on it. I love my Kick, but have you tried the Urbano 200? I’m super curious about that one for a little more oomph.

    • @luis815tx
      @luis815tx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Were you wearing motorcycle boots? They will add a little bit to be able to touch the ground maybe enough. Was the shock set to the softest ? Vespas have adjustable shocks on the back might help once you sit and put the weight that it lowers just enough. Was the side stand off? when i sit and the side stand is down my feet dangle like if i were on a horse. Some Vespas can be lowered a bit with a small cheap part it would only be like an inch or inch and a half but might make a big difference if you just need that tiny bit.

    • @josmty9
      @josmty9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! Which one you got? I was also considering the Vespa, but I’m also shorty, I’m 5’5’’ … with your comment I notice that Vespa is not my best option… I’ll do my basic riding course this weekend.. if everything goes fine probably will buy my scooter soon :)

    • @wonderwoman4875
      @wonderwoman4875 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@josmty9 I ended up getting a Buddy Kick and I love it. I can place my feet flat on the ground.

    • @josmty9
      @josmty9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wonderwoman4875 Thanks for the quick answer! I’ll take a look to that one…. By the way? Was difficult the basic rider course? As mentioned I’ll take it this weekend.. :)

  • @sopek1427
    @sopek1427 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ride a Vespa Prima 150 in sg. I ride a Honda Airblade in Viet. Even cheap scoot have ABS and same features. So im not sure if her opinion is accurate that theres additional features

  • @chennibyo
    @chennibyo ปีที่แล้ว

    did you mention you're in the houston area? I am interested in getting a buddy actually

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am! Have you checked one out already? They’re a blast!

  • @antithesis4715
    @antithesis4715 ปีที่แล้ว

    going to work and city travel using my beloved primavera 50th anniversary edition, its nice, comfy, and easy i love it haha

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds great! Especially when the sky is blue & the sun in shinin'!

  • @amyb6352
    @amyb6352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been looking for a comparison of these two! Is the seat height much higher on the Vespa? I am new to scooters and really torn between the buddy kick and the vespa. I am a short girl and don't want to feel overwhelmed on a bigger bike. Love your reviews!

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have sooo many opinions on that whole conversation now, but alas I won’t have time for that video for a few weeks. 😂
      This is not a crazy ploy, but find me on Instagram (scooter_newbie). I’ll throw a photo up of the 2 together tonight. It is a pretty big difference between my 300 to the Kick, but a 150cc Vespa is ~20% smaller than a 300 version.

    • @darcychu9652
      @darcychu9652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buddy is made in Taiwan with solid quality. In fact, Buddy is designed with local ladies in mind, so it has lower seat height and being popular among local female riders.
      Another good thing about Buddy is much lighter than Vespa.

  • @daliborsacaric5258
    @daliborsacaric5258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had Vespa and Gilera, it is all Piaggio, but the Vesp is a Vesp. The Gilera has the same engine in my case, but the concept is complete different,.. Gilera is the sportish design with not much details, just sportish and with 200cc 19hp alwasy to fast in downtown :)
    Vesp: is the difference of the Metallbody of the Vesp,design, detail, comfort, Hooks for bags and a nicer seat for your sweet dreams behind you... I is a Lifestyle.. But do not forget the Beverly it is a very good alternative with bigger wheels and same engine without a metallframe.. But cheaper..

  • @nirvikalpa_samadhi
    @nirvikalpa_samadhi ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!! 💚💙

  • @justinperaia6528
    @justinperaia6528 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my opinion, I'd much rather have a used Vespa than a newer alternative. I especially like P-series Vespas. They were some of the best scooters ever made. They are so easy to work on yourself and are super reliable.

  • @leftymadrid
    @leftymadrid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent information here! I personally think that Vespa motor bikes are very well made. Not to compare motor bikes but the Honda C 90 are something to look into. If you can find a well cared for bike of the past. Just the history of sales is insane and incredible, where multiple countries have had them and still use them and put tons of miles on them them!! They are simple to work on, extremely durable basically a tank!! And most importantly the price is way more affordable. The Honda super Cub 125 they now sell still holds the classic look and built to last as well, getting excellent gas mileage and very comfy to ride, also has wind protection fairings which come in handy when it's colder weather. There is a man (Ed march) I believe, on TH-cam which has gone traveling all over the world 🌎 🌍 with one of those Honda c90's it is mind blowing the abuse and constant use he has the poor bike through...
    Thx for sharing, yeah Vespas are special for sure. The older models that are rebuild and cared for are stunning to see. Even the new ones seem to hold similar quality everyone is used to seeing. It's just that some pockets can not afford them lol.

    • @sewwilson4185
      @sewwilson4185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The old c90 are a great bike, but the new supercub has way too much plastic for me 😢

  • @basicallyedward
    @basicallyedward ปีที่แล้ว

    I own personally a Piaggio Fly, what isn't a Vespa, it has 70cc 2t engine and it keeps up really well with in the city..

  • @applenuggets662
    @applenuggets662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Vespa sprint 50, I love it so much

  • @zx2927
    @zx2927 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, mentioned that other 300cc feels more like a motorcycle than a scooter. This quality may be a pro for some viewers, can elaborate more? Other 300cc range scooters are more smooth, rides better etc, as compared to the gts300?

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think all of the 300+ including the GTS were super smooth. They glide like butter, but the bigger wheeled versions did have a leg up in feel. What model are you leaning towards?

  • @johnbellamy6449
    @johnbellamy6449 ปีที่แล้ว

    bought my wife a vespa primavera for her 71st birthday,end of june. i bought a vespa 300 hpe super at the same time. excellent quality in our opinion. I am 73.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoa! Talk about the happiest of birthdays! How are you guys enjoying them? Were you both familiar with riding before?

    • @johnbellamy6449
      @johnbellamy6449 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie we have both ridden for years .in the 1970 s we used honda stepthrus for work .we had big bikes and sidecar outfits also .

    • @johnbellamy6449
      @johnbellamy6449 ปีที่แล้ว

      from Linda, have a wonderfull time as i have , you will encourage other ladies also ,please let us know and keep in touch .

  • @1960ARC
    @1960ARC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a vespa 125 primavera 2014 11 inch wheels and no abs.
    I took the vespa from 8000 miles to 42000 miles.
    Then I considered buying a new primavera, but at £4600 front abs, 12 inch wheels and rear drum brake. I compared the vespa with several other scooters and really wanted larger wheels if possible.
    I ended up buying a Honda SH125i. I was using the bike for deliveries and safety was key. 16 inch wheels makes large pot holes small. Front and back disk brakes and abs, also traction control.
    £3500, I also ordered a screen and what they call knuckle guards.
    Had the vespa come with the same speck for the £4600 as the Honda, other than the wheels, I may have bought the vespa.
    Having done 16000+ miles on the Honda 125, I love the Honda, but I intend to restore my white primavera, it's not just a scooter, but a work of art.

    • @johnbellamy6449
      @johnbellamy6449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have this week took delivery of a new honda s h 125 i with tall screen and knuckle guards love it .also love my 2020 vespa gts 300 super .

    • @1960ARC
      @1960ARC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnbellamy6449 hope you have a great time riding. The Honda screen appears to be made of rain glue, I polish mine with Turtle wax, which helps the rain run down the screen. I've done just over 36,000 miles on mine.

  • @shawnhedrick2135
    @shawnhedrick2135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I ask where you bought your scooters in the Houston Area. We are in the market and just starting to look around.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We’ve bought from Scootersmith, and we drove to San Antonio’s The Motorcycle Shop in particular. We’ve been to about every dealer, & none are off limits for us in the area (but definitely limited locally!)

  • @volhv1973
    @volhv1973 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting for more videos!!!!

  • @Omegasutoraiki
    @Omegasutoraiki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in the Houston area and looking for a scooter. Mostly because I need a way to get around and have no money for a car. Are there any places you recommend to go look at scooters?

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Around Houston, there are a handful of Kymco, Honda & Yamaha dealers that you can call to see what they have available. That is trick there. Scootersmith is around 610 on the NE side, Scooterville is around Kemah & Scoots is up in College Station. They all carry Genuine & Kymco. Scooterville also has Lance & Wolf last I was there.

  • @m12ttd
    @m12ttd ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy cheap and you get a 'Cheap' Scooter! Modern Vespa's are the top end of the Table for Quality and Ride! I own a Vespa Douglas 1981 and a modern GTS300 2021, my wife has a GTS125 and we love them! (Biker with many years of experience on Fireblades, Ninjas' and GSXR's) We go for long rides around the South Coast of the UK and recently a road trip to 'The Isle of Wight!' Very good video!!!

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! What a garage?! Thank you!

  • @jrnumex9286
    @jrnumex9286 ปีที่แล้ว

    good deal i have 3 scoots honda and yamaha and love them. i would take a looksy at a vespa to add to line up EX-cept 2022 bmw E scooter CE -04 is just plain wild awesome so probably forward cash to that.

    • @jrnumex9286
      @jrnumex9286 ปีที่แล้ว

      13 days ago not knowing how nice the 2021 75th 300 looked i bought one. had to search as not many to none around at dealers, bmw e on back burner.

  • @scott8542
    @scott8542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay! You finally got a Vespa…good choice!

  • @frankkboy25
    @frankkboy25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I've been watching your videos what do you think has better longevity vespa honda yeamah genuine Lance bmw cause I'll be getting one driving around passing notes and flyers for my job I'll need to be on a scooter like 4 hours a day so witch scooter you think will suit me for my job and it does not matter the price

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm…. I literally think all of those brands are fine for longevity, and I’d add in KYMCO. Because you’re saying a lot of miles + hours, comfort, storage, maintenance & warranty come to mind.
      Storage/comfort best: maxi scooter so skip Lance. If maxi is too bulky, big wheels & great suspension would win here.
      Warranty: skip Honda & Yamaha with their 12 months; I love the 24 months unlimited miles warranties
      Maintenance: I’m not aware of anything funky except if you need parts or servicing, whichever dealer is most accessible would help me make this decision
      Piaggio Liberty/BV models or KYMCO People/Downtown are models that come to mind I’d personally start with.

  • @planetx5269
    @planetx5269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I ever bought a scooter, and I might, it would be a Vespa and I love how they look

  • @bullfrommull
    @bullfrommull 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have owned two Vespas. I have also hired Honda Scooters abroad. Honda are great. Vespas especially modern are outstanding. I have a White 300gts hpe . The only let down is the seat. They are great fun. Great handling. They look amazing. I used to own a vintage Vespa. I love how they have kept the classic look.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What would you want different with the seat? Something is off but I haven’t been able to articulate exactly why I feel that way. Happy riding!

    • @bullfrommull
      @bullfrommull ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie something that does not make my bum numb after 30miles.

  • @carl-emilsteilborghansen3945
    @carl-emilsteilborghansen3945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the video!

  • @michaelking4578
    @michaelking4578 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a natural data analyst. I'm sold on the Vespa.

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha! Thanks! I'd love to hear which model & color you go with. That's half the fun is picking a color!

  • @mikef9126
    @mikef9126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We chatted yesterday. I receive my racing 60’s model tomorrow. I cant wait. One thing i did was change the chevrons to the Italian flag. It looks cool. I know its against the black trim theme but it is a Vespa and I’m Italian.😀

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not Italian, but I have those Italian chevrons in my cart!! 😂

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my! I just realized that it’s tomorrow. Happy scooting!!

    • @mikef9126
      @mikef9126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie I feel like a 5 year old. I had trouble sleeping. ITS CHRISTMAS…

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love it! You get to eat the cookies + get a huge gift! Perks of the whole adulting thing! 😍

    • @mikef9126
      @mikef9126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie thx for the videos. They helped.

  • @MegaWilmington
    @MegaWilmington 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lambies ruled back in the day. I had a cometa, then Li 125, Li 150, and finally a TV 200 which I sold for 30 sobs. Worth a lot now !

  • @irishrover63
    @irishrover63 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That monocoque metal body is great if you live in a warm climate, but rusts from the inside out if you live in a coastal area or ride during winter were the roads are salted. That's why I won't ride mine here during winter.

  • @mikeh7220
    @mikeh7220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video. Today, I test drove a Vespa for the first time. It handled and performed great. I was completely shocked. In the past, I perceived Vespas to be too girlie and overpriced.

  • @Busywave
    @Busywave 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Not sure I could fork out that kind of cash. The Kymco isn’t a Vespa but meets my scooter needs. Even though I still have an annoying gear oil leak (my only complaint). I would consider buying a Yamaha Zuma 125. It has handlebars similar to a motorcycle which I like. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoa! I didn’t expect to hear you still dealing with that nonsense!

    • @Busywave
      @Busywave 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie yeah it’s crazy. I actually changed the gear oil myself but it still has the very small leak after I ride it. The manual calls for 140ml gear oil so I’m thinking it only needs 120ml so the extra is causing the leak. Not sure but it is frustrating 😖

    • @mickturner957
      @mickturner957 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually bikes/scooters leak from engine case connections or other metal coverings on clutches etc. I use a product called ThreeBond® TB1211 - 1200 Series Silicone Oxime White Liquid Gasket.
      It costs about $35 for a nice size tube and comes with an adaptor for smaller areas. It works at very high engine temperatures with no leakage. You can apply between cases or separate covers for clutches etc. or clean very well the surfaces and apply over engine mating surfaces. Once it sets up it forms a bead inside and outside the case if used on the case when apart. IT is important to leave the raised bead so it seals properly. It also comes in Grey to match color on Aluminum cases. I own a Jet Ski Shop and we use it for all our engine rebuilding work. I also used it on my 1969 VW Bus (Westfalia Camper) engine when I rebuilt it. Works great. I also use it on the mating surfaces of seals, I put it on the sealing surface, put oil on the shaft that goes through then push the shaft through, it forms a seal far better than the two seal lips do by themselves. The oil keeps the sealant from sticking to the shaft, but the sealant forms a great barrier from seepage. No charge for the experience/lessons...ha ha.

    • @Busywave
      @Busywave ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mickturner957 hey there. Thanks for that info I appreciate it. I’ve actually since traded in my Kymco but I will take your method to heart if my Royal Enfield starts an annoying leak. ✌️

  • @RoadUser_Motovlog
    @RoadUser_Motovlog ปีที่แล้ว

    lol i love how you put "piaggio" and "vespa" into 2 separate groups..but yeah the metal body is actually a huge deal, here in italy pretty much everyone at 14y/o gets a scooter, we spent a good amount of or live modifying and tuning them and with plastic fairings you know how they come off but you never now how they'll go back together, because they warp and shring and bend (mostly because of the sun)..metal made vespas don't lose their shape so putting them together is a walk in the park

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get that on the Piaggio & Vespa from folks not in the US. They are the same dealers here, but seem like very different brands & people aren't always aware. They look so different! We just don't ride scooters the same way, but I am glad to see so much more interest in them. I can't imagine growing up where it's so common!

    • @RoadUser_Motovlog
      @RoadUser_Motovlog ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterNewbie honestly i had a blast..there were days were we went out just to ride, it wasn't (and it still isn't) uncommon to see large groups of kids riding around in a cloud of two stroke smoke. there was a HUGE culture of customization, but then the four stroke came along, new regulations and the usual generational loss of interest almost killed it..it came back a bit in the last couple of years though

  • @user-jy3io4iz2p
    @user-jy3io4iz2p 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Had a Piaggio, Suzuki and Aprillia,. They were all nice to ride with the Aprillia by far the best. Brands like Sym and Kymco appear to be quality as well.

  • @bartdebuono
    @bartdebuono 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff. She’s spot on.

  • @owenwint21
    @owenwint21 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Vespa gts 125 super in 2021 years then I sold it for a Yamaha xmax tech max 125 as I need more storage and more Mille range bike costs me about £8.50 to fill up

    • @ScooterNewbie
      @ScooterNewbie  ปีที่แล้ว

      So many more models available elsewhere! I hadn't heard of the Tech Max or a 125cc XMax before.

  • @jasonlow5600
    @jasonlow5600 ปีที่แล้ว

    So with your Vespa metal frame, has any rust appeared ? Usually appears in lower surface between front and rear wheel. That’s a deal breaker for me.

    • @mickturner957
      @mickturner957 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clean well then Tape up the bottom then apply a high grade undercoating...