I love the video of the dude on here telling everyone they have weak grips lol. I wrestled for 14 years and lift weights regularly. These 12 round mags bested me.
While I agree that Sig’s magazine springs have some hellacious rebound, y’all should try loading some Taurus .40 S&W 10 round mags one time! You won’t complain about Sig anymore I assure you. 🤣
Thanks for this video! I just purchased this firearm and thought something was wrong with me and that’s why I couldn’t load the mag. So happy to know it wasn’t just me!
First time Sig purchaser here. I've always been a Colt, S&W, Glock guy and for some reason (Still unknown even to me) I always thought of Sig as being a "James bond / Mission impossible / Designer type gun". Once I gave it a chance, I quickly found a fondness for this P365X and purchased a pair for the wife and I. There's a few nit pick quirks (Like with everything) but over all, I am embarrassed to admit to having my ignorant previous opinion. When I got around to mag loading, I couldn't wrap my head around what was going on. The first few were tough and it got progressively harder to the point that last round, I thought I would dent the brass and even thought the mag had the wrong spring. I'm glad I found this video. At least now, I'm pretty sure that I have not completely lost my mind and all of strength in my hands. It would be impossible for my wife to load these mags..... Maybe a factory included mag loader for ever gun sold would be a great idea.
Yeah it's not just you. I bought a Ruger LCP Max and a Sig 365X. The Ruger actually came with a plastic mag loader, Sig did not even though it definitely should! I had to buy a mag loader to get that 12th round in the mags! It's crazy how stiff that spring is. Sig should throw in even a cheap $1-2 mag loader to help new customers out.
I can barely get the 12 th round in but then I can’t get the mag in the mag well without smacking it with the heel of my hand. If I put 11 in there it pops in east… definitely a Sig issue.
I just purchased a P365 back in December 2021 as an off-duty gun. I have pretty strong hands from training with martial arts weapons, and I had a very hard time where I could not fit that 12th round in the 12-round magazine. My firearms instructor who qualified me with it advised me that the zigzag follower spring is high tension and I’ll just have to break it in through use. He got the P365X and went through the same thing. A humbling experience, lol!
I just purchased my first pistol P365x Romeo Elite and was having trouble getting the third bullit in the clip. This made life so much easier! Thank you sir!!
I've got the 365 XL as well and ran into the same problems, the pen was a great idea. Gonna let the spring adjust to 11 rounds for a few days and then go to the range.
Just bought my P365 today (new). I had traded my S&W AirLite .357 for a FN 503. Very similar to the Sig 365. The FN503 was a total disaster at the range testing it out. It only had 8 in the mag with one in the pipe. It would fir the first shot then either misfire or stovepipe. It did it 8 times with the first box of 115 grain FMJ Federal rounds. Then I tried my 124 grain hydra shok that i would be carrying, and same thing. Returned the gun to the dealer and bought what I intended on buying in the first place....P365. It comes with 10 round mags and by the 7th round my thumb was numb. Your idea helped me finish loading to 10. I have a Glock mag assist somewhere that I never needed until now. I hope the springs get easier over time. Thanks for the video.
Great idea. Just bought a Sig P365 with a 10 round mag and couldn't get past 5 or 6 rounds without looking ridiculous trying to load the remaining. Was able to fully load a clip using your suggestion. Thanks for sharing!
I’ve been trying to load her 17 rounder and was even using my metal gun cleaner to push them down and still couldn’t get the last two in. Thank you so much for the video. Greatly appreciate it.
Thank you. I picked up the p365 sas a couple of days ago. Loading the magazines was kicking my butt. I got on of those speedloads. It helped some but your way is much easier. I wish i had seen your video yesterday, it would have saved me some money.
Bro, genius hack. New gun and mags. I loaded five with my fingers, gave up and then found your video. I was able to load 11 using the ball point pen and stopped because of the spring tension. Now I need to know the magic to change end cap on the 15 round mag. Thanks!
I love the tough guy on the video saying we are all a bunch of weaklings and don't have enough grip strength to load a magazine lol. The problem is not grip strength but the floorplates. The flush one it comes installed with made for the P365 XL which he is loading is recessed so the spring keeper can sit down into it making the magazine deeper, but the P365 floorplate is flat and not recessed. This shortens the length of the interior of the magazine by 1.06 millimeters which is about what I come up short when I'm trying to load the 12th round. You can see this by looking at the bottom of the magazine. With the XL floorplate installed the spring detent pin comes all the way through the hole and is flush with the bottom of the floorplate, but with the non-recessed floorplate made for the P365 the pin is sunk in 1.06 millimeters. I'm a bit mechanically inclined and thought for sure I didn't put it together correctly when I didn't see the pin come all the way through but it wasn't me. I wish Sig would engineer a recessed floor plate for us P365 owners or just call this an 11 round magazine. If you can open this picture you will see just how much taller the P365 floorplate is which pushes it up further into the magazine compared to the XL floorplate. www.sigtalk.com/attachments/12-rd-flr-plate-keerpers-jpg.400431/
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Great insight. It also seems like the spring metal might have different properties and the design of the magazine itself causes more friction binding than most other magazines. I assume this may be due to such tight tolerances.
I seriously thank you so much. I just got my SIG P365XL and I could NOT load the ammo. I was researching and came across your video. Which helped so much to get a basically free way to load these mags. Free meaning I don't have to buy a loader to help. I loaded 2 of my 12 round and 4 of my 15 round extended mags no problem!
im a glock guy but today got a p365, my first non-glock pistol, after lots of research decided it was a great gun for what i needed and had a pretty good reputation. 1st i couldnt use the slide release it was so hard to operate, then i struggled to load the mags. man i was frustrated but i figured it all out. ive never had to break in my glocks :)
I had the same issue with the slide release. When it was brand new I couldn’t drop the slide with it without two hands. It’s broken in a bit and can use the release, but it’s still harder than I’d want.
Me too! I bit the bullet (pun intended) and got a mag loader as I was making myself crazy trying to load these!! I had 2 mags originally and bought 2 more so I didn’t have to load often also….😂 Saving my thumbs!!
I found a $6 fix. Ordered the ISMI Plus 5% 10 round mag spring from NDZ Performance. Ran this in both 12 round XL mag and 12 round 365 mag (with factory 365 finger extension). I can load 12 rounds much easier. Full mags will actually load with action closed. I left it fully loaded for 5 days to break in. Function and slide lock was great throughout my last 3 shoots! Web site says the material endures longer but gonna see how it's does long term.
Thanx man! It was very helpful to know this wasn't a me issue! I forced mine so hard, and then it wouldn't load into the gun, I had to force it in, then when I unloaded the mag the slide wouldn't lock back because the spring got messed up, I disassembled it and put it back together which fixed that problem, but I'm going to take your advice and load 9 for now.
Cool. It seems like letting the springs compress for a day or two really make a difference. I love the magazines but in the beginning they are tough to load. Not a bad trade off for an extra 4 rounds in my opinion.
@@stephengreico2810 I eventually got it to be less of a problem. I loaded 11 and let it sit for 3-4 weeks, then loaded 12. Then I ended up buying a Glock 19 and a CZ P-07 with the CZ becoming my main carry for risk mitigation, AIWB, and the better SA trigger after the initial DA pull.
Appreciate the feedback. Hopefully you’ll love yours as much as I love mine. Very reliable so far with all types of ammo. No failures at all at this point. Just gotta take a pen along to fight that garage door spring in the mag.
Thanks for this video!! People that think they know keep telling me I must have weak hands. It is amazing, just because they have never had an issue, they do not believe a magazine can be that hard to load. I am stronger than most and have many guns and have never used a loader for any of them. There is no talking to some people, lol!
That's crazy using a pen like that. Just buy the mag Lula loader. I have one but even with that mag Lula the 12 round was almost impossible to get that last round into the magazine. Then it wouldn't seat in the gun when I loaded it and when I finally got it to seat after banging on the bottom of it which is not a good thing the slide wouldn't rack! It was just jamming up on that last round instead of sliding back over it and picking it up on the return. In sigs little manual it says to lock the slide back put the magazine in and then release the slide and it will put one in the chamber. Eventually I got it to work by simply putting 11 into the magazine putting one in the chamber with the slide and then putting two more rounds into it after popping out the magazine. Kind of a pain in the ass but I suppose it's a good thing to have a good strong spring. Basically had the same problem with the 15 round mags that came with this tacpac.
P320 mags are easier to load than most, while the P365's are at best 3 times more difficult. Maglula works on both and on most 9mm mags. It is one of the best accessories I've purchased.
i usually load my P320 Magazine with 5 or 8 rounds mostly because you don't need a Full Magazine to kill an intruder or burgular in your house when all you need is a Head shot in some ways it makes sense i mean why go through the hassle of loading a full 16 or 18 round Magazine when all you really need is just a few rounds
@@fuesha or just simply go for a head shoot or leg shot it's hard for the intruder to attack with a bullet in their head and hard for them to try and run when they have bullet in their leg don't you think?
When I was a 10 year old kid I always reloaded my dads magazines for him jo problem. Fast forward 30 years I get my own gun and I couldnt get more than 5 rounds in. I thought wow I cant believe I did this as a kid. Glad I found your video it made me happy that it wasnt just me struggling with reloading with it.
Got 11 rounds in no problem but despite my best efforts and about 20 attempts I could not for the life of me get that 12th. Thanks for the trick with the pen. Got it in that time, no problem. Stiffest damn mags Ive ever loaded!
Thanks I just boat a loader on ebay for 10 bucks but its not here yet.I tried your video and it worked.I got all 10 rounds in.The 10th was hard and i thought I bent the lips but it worked.Thnx!
The cost of a mag loader is small in comparison to the amount spent on the firearm and ammo that will go through it. I bought two different styles of mag loaders to try out.
I bought 1 speed loader, and it didnt work because the round hits the loader first and doesnt want to catch.... but after 1 year of practicing, i dont need any tools anymore --- use your 2nd thumb to help push the tound down and pull back at the same time to catch --- then you can slam the mag down and finish seating it
I had the same problem with my p365 12 round mags. Even the 10 round mag wasn't easy. I actually bent the ramp on an uplula loader trying to get bullet number 12 in. I kept the mags loaded for a few months.. and would unload and reload a couple of times a week. Now i can get all rounds in by hand. The 12th round is still tight.. but very doable.
This is funny for me, in a good way, I injured my thumbs last year AND I'll be 70 next month. I bought a S%W CSX with a similar mag and i couldn't get more than 5 rounds in. Thought I was falling apart and went to get a mag loader (easy) and resigned to use it from now on. I watched this video today and walked to the bedroom and got out my 1911 and loaded it right up easy. Gee Thanks Guy!!!
Just got some and have never had any pistol I could not load a magazine all the way. Thanks for the heads up. Ridiculous for what they charge for these. Note to self...SHTF, have Bic pens in the bug out bag.......
Thanks for the great idea. That last round you’re trying to get in will never go in. Rewatch the video and count the rounds going in - it’s already at full capacity. I like the idea with a plastic pen though!
Also, every 2 to 3 rounds, you need to slam the mag into your hand and make sure the rounds are going in correctly, and THEN slam the back of the mag into your hand to make sure they all SEAT to the rear of the mag... It DOES help for the last round, and after you have 12 rounds, you SHOULD be able to slam the mag again and STILL have some slack.
Thank you so much for this video , I had a 365 tac pac and my grandpa had the 365x and the 365 tac was easy for him to rack and load the magazine so I traded him and these mags were a nightmare compared to my others. The magazines that come with the 365x I have are made in the USA . My old tacpac came with mags in Italy, which I believe are made by mecgar which I prefer
New to hand guns! Thought I had pretty strong hands until I tried loading 365XL mags. Got 5 in and thought damn there has to be a trick I’m not seeing. Thx for video 👍🏻
I just received 2 15rd mags for my new XL and I thought I was doing something wrong until I saw this video. I have a 9mm speed loader and I decided I was going to relentlessly shove the full 15 rds. After about 2 - 3 cycles of loading and unloading, the spring loosened up a tad bit. I guess it’ll take some breaking in. Oh well. Still a great pistol.
You didn’t have any issues shooting that first magazine with full 15 rounds? No malfunctions? Seems rather tight and mag needs to be slapped in to be seated correctly. Let me know
Just bought 2 365’s for myself and wife. Yes. Very hard to load but in the SIG case was a Maglula loader. Makes loading SO much easier!. I guess SIG had a lot of complaints LOL.
liked the video and thanks! I had no pen put a couple pencils. One with the eraser about gone, that one worked perfectly. It would even jam sideways a bit and stick. I could load then easily remove the pencil.
Purchased this gun yesterday, .My thumb is killing me also. Love the gun. The spring to so tight would not chamber that 12th round, so I only use 11 in the magazine.
The struggle is real. I have a Maglula loader, and it helps with the first few rounds. After that, the rounds start nosing down a little and it binds up.
tightest most strongest spring of all mags i’ve ever loaded made me consider selling my p365x back to the retailer that 12th rd is a complete bitch & will test all your strength and bone density
Yep, the Sig mags are HARD to load. I use the Glock speed loader. Works great and is less than 10 bucks. Make sure to get the Glock loader that fits the 43x. Works perfect for the 365
Thank you for your comment. I got my Sig Sauer p365xl Rose Comp yesterday and tried to load the magazines with the loader that came with it and was only able to load 3 cartridges. After watching the video I read your comment and thought I have nothing to lose. I pushed my 43xl loader on hard and I heard the springs pop. I was able to put 11 in each magazine. You saved my frustration and my fingers. Thank you!!
i have the same problem. i have been shooting for long time this is the first magazine that requires you to go to the gym to load no problem with my glocks out from the box. just got my gun, zerow rounds yet. i just loaded it and let it sit for a few weeks.
I have a speed loader and I could only get 11 in one mag and 4 in the other. Before watching this video I thought they might have had some obstruction in them. I was looking for a way to take my mag apart. Interestingly enough , it only appears to be a problem with the 12 round mags. I don’t have a problem with my 17 round mag.
Last guy tried making every other guy a girly-man w/dead fish hands! I know I don't have weak hands, yet I struggled to fully load that 12 round double stack magazine! Screw it, I'm getting a speed loader.
I used the little plastic mag loader that comes with some Glocks to get the last round in and I'm gonna let us sit with twelve for a while see if that helps.
Jumpin' bejesus, I'm watching you and trying to load my magazines as well. I've got 3 in and am having difficulty with a 4th. This is nuts! Eventually I got them all in, but the magazine was closing so tightly I could not rack the slide! I can do it will 11 so will leave the mags with 11 shells for awhile. Can you imagine being in a life threatening situation and not being able to rack the slide?!
I'm having a problem too thats how I found this video. First I found the other about weak hands. Never had this much trouble before with any gun. If I knew this I would of never bought this gun.
I was having such a hard time loading my SS Clip. I thought I didn't know what I was doing, until I seen this video. This video was very informative. Now I know it just wasn't me. It's extremely hard to load this darn thing😟. Is there any another brand of clip I could use in place of the Sig clip?🤔 However, my hands were hurting trying to load this clip, So I put on some form fitting hand gloves, and it made it so much easier to load the amo inside of this clip🤗
You can loosen up the spring like this: Get a long rigid object (like the handle side of a spoon or wrench) and shove it down the empty mag a few dozen times, actuating the spring thru the full range of motion. My mags are significantly easier to load now, I have no feeding issues.
I have 5, 12 round mags. All are very hard to get that 12th round in. And worse. On a loaded chamber. Try to seat the mag. It takes so much force. Speedy reloads are hard. Also. My slide scratches the top bullet in the mag. Cause there’s no wiggle room. I put 11 rounds in my spare mag now. Reloads are so much easier.
I just bought a 365 XL and the mags that came with them are so hard to load after like 8 rounds it’s ridiculous don’t have this issue with glock mags I wish there were better after market mags.
I never had problems on any mag before...... I bought the contraption 29.95 My thumb was killing me and I could not physicly put the last 3 rounds in. The contraption was fast and easy
You just need to use BOTH thumbs to push a new round down and HOPE it catches before you lose strength to hold it anymore, lol --- I bought an aftermarket speed loader that DOESNT work, so I was forced to learn how to do it without any tools... NOW im a fucking PRO, and I can do all three mags without any breaks! Good luck!
Getting the 12th round in isn’t the end of the problem. Once you have 12 rounds in it you have to force the mag to seat in the gun if the slide isn’t locked back. It’s such a tight fit I wonder about it causing issues. Has any body put enough rounds through these mags to make a difference in the tension?
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I love the video of the dude on here telling everyone they have weak grips lol. I wrestled for 14 years and lift weights regularly. These 12 round mags bested me.
When you’re using your body weight to depress the spring, you know it’s not a weak grip.
As we get older, we like to blame a lot of things on getting old.......LOL
While I agree that Sig’s magazine springs have some hellacious rebound, y’all should try loading some Taurus .40 S&W 10 round mags one time! You won’t complain about Sig anymore I assure you. 🤣
Just got my first gun, a sig. Been wrestling and coaching for 15 years. Took me a 1/2 hour to get my last two rounds in my mag.
I’m so glad to see these comments and this video. Bought this as my first pistol Friday and thought it was just my inexperience 😅
same! i was getting so pissed!
Former marine and gun expert. Same problem. I used a brass punch for the same process
went shooting the other day and my buddy let me try out his load assist tool, but i was faster with the dang pen!
Thanks for this video! I just purchased this firearm and thought something was wrong with me and that’s why I couldn’t load the mag. So happy to know it wasn’t just me!
Same!
First time Sig purchaser here. I've always been a Colt, S&W, Glock guy and for some reason (Still unknown even to me) I always thought of Sig as being a "James bond / Mission impossible / Designer type gun". Once I gave it a chance, I quickly found a fondness for this P365X and purchased a pair for the wife and I. There's a few nit pick quirks (Like with everything) but over all, I am embarrassed to admit to having my ignorant previous opinion. When I got around to mag loading, I couldn't wrap my head around what was going on. The first few were tough and it got progressively harder to the point that last round, I thought I would dent the brass and even thought the mag had the wrong spring. I'm glad I found this video. At least now, I'm pretty sure that I have not completely lost my mind and all of strength in my hands. It would be impossible for my wife to load these mags..... Maybe a factory included mag loader for ever gun sold would be a great idea.
Yeah it's not just you. I bought a Ruger LCP Max and a Sig 365X. The Ruger actually came with a plastic mag loader, Sig did not even though it definitely should! I had to buy a mag loader to get that 12th round in the mags! It's crazy how stiff that spring is. Sig should throw in even a cheap $1-2 mag loader to help new customers out.
Nearly broke my thumb trying to get the 12th in. Came here to see if it was just me or its just a sig thing.
Just a sig thing - the more you practice, the easier it gets... its all about leverage
Same. Glad I’m not alone in this.
I can barely get the 12 th round in but then I can’t get the mag in the mag well without smacking it with the heel of my hand. If I put 11 in there it pops in east… definitely a Sig issue.
I thought the same 😂
I'm loading a 10 rounder and got to 7 and was really struggling (and my thumb was hurting
3 years later and this is still very useful. I just bought mine today and had trouble loading it by hand and this helped tremendously. Thank you.
Life saver…. Thank you! Husband just got me a Sig P365 and I was struggling to get these clips fill! People like me appreciate these types of videos
you were filling magazines, not clips
I just purchased a P365 back in December 2021 as an off-duty gun. I have pretty strong hands from training with martial arts weapons, and I had a very hard time where I could not fit that 12th round in the 12-round magazine. My firearms instructor who qualified me with it advised me that the zigzag follower spring is high tension and I’ll just have to break it in through use. He got the P365X and went through the same thing. A humbling experience, lol!
Damn, I guess I won't be able to load 12rds for a couple of months😓😓😓
I just bought the 365X and the pen trick worked.My weapon came with the 10 rounders though
@@wirelessone2986 why was that, was it used?
I just purchased my first pistol P365x Romeo Elite and was having trouble getting the third bullit in the clip. This made life so much easier! Thank you sir!!
I've got the 365 XL as well and ran into the same problems, the pen was a great idea.
Gonna let the spring adjust to 11 rounds for a few days and then go to the range.
I highly recommend using an UpLULA to easily load these hardcore mags
I got one and it works great and it will load all mags single and double stack.
Just bought my P365 today (new). I had traded my S&W AirLite .357 for a FN 503. Very similar to the Sig 365. The FN503 was a total disaster at the range testing it out. It only had 8 in the mag with one in the pipe. It would fir the first shot then either misfire or stovepipe. It did it 8 times with the first box of 115 grain FMJ Federal rounds. Then I tried my 124 grain hydra shok that i would be carrying, and same thing. Returned the gun to the dealer and bought what I intended on buying in the first place....P365. It comes with 10 round mags and by the 7th round my thumb was numb. Your idea helped me finish loading to 10. I have a Glock mag assist somewhere that I never needed until now. I hope the springs get easier over time. Thanks for the video.
Glad it helped. I almost bought a 357 airlite but too afraid it would pop out of my hand.
Great idea. Just bought a Sig P365 with a 10 round mag and couldn't get past 5 or 6 rounds without looking ridiculous trying to load the remaining. Was able to fully load a clip using your suggestion. Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome. It’s good in a pinch. Glad it helped.
Same man!
If you were able to load 6, I’m pretty damn impressed. My feeble hands gave up at 5.
Same. I go to 9 and thought I miscounted unloaded and confirmed. That 10th was something.
I’ve been trying to load her 17 rounder and was even using my metal gun cleaner to push them down and still couldn’t get the last two in. Thank you so much for the video. Greatly appreciate it.
Thank you. I picked up the p365 sas a couple of days ago. Loading the magazines was kicking my butt. I got on of those speedloads. It helped some but your way is much easier. I wish i had seen your video yesterday, it would have saved me some money.
I thought a speed loader would be better. But I don’t shoot this pistol enough to justify the purchase.
Always glad to hear this helped someone.
Thanks for making this. This problem is definitely not yours alone and I too nearly killed my thumb haha. The pen method works really well.
Bro, genius hack. New gun and mags. I loaded five with my fingers, gave up and then found your video. I was able to load 11 using the ball point pen and stopped because of the spring tension. Now I need to know the magic to change end cap on the 15 round mag. Thanks!
I love the tough guy on the video saying we are all a bunch of weaklings and don't have enough grip strength to load a magazine lol. The problem is not grip strength but the floorplates. The flush one it comes installed with made for the P365 XL which he is loading is recessed so the spring keeper can sit down into it making the magazine deeper, but the P365 floorplate is flat and not recessed. This shortens the length of the interior of the magazine by 1.06 millimeters which is about what I come up short when I'm trying to load the 12th round. You can see this by looking at the bottom of the magazine. With the XL floorplate installed the spring detent pin comes all the way through the hole and is flush with the bottom of the floorplate, but with the non-recessed floorplate made for the P365 the pin is sunk in 1.06 millimeters. I'm a bit mechanically inclined and thought for sure I didn't put it together correctly when I didn't see the pin come all the way through but it wasn't me. I wish Sig would engineer a recessed floor plate for us P365 owners or just call this an 11 round magazine. If you can open this picture you will see just how much taller the P365 floorplate is which pushes it up further into the magazine compared to the XL floorplate.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Great insight. It also seems like the spring metal might have different properties and the design of the magazine itself causes more friction binding than most other magazines. I assume this may be due to such tight tolerances.
@@wdtony Were you able to open the photo? I'm not sure if you have to be a Sigtalk member to do so.
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Yes. I could open the photo.
LOL! From a brother Deadfish-Handshaker.
Bro, that guy in that video was ridiculous lol.
I seriously thank you so much. I just got my SIG P365XL and I could NOT load the ammo. I was researching and came across your video. Which helped so much to get a basically free way to load these mags. Free meaning I don't have to buy a loader to help. I loaded 2 of my 12 round and 4 of my 15 round extended mags no problem!
I love their pistols but these mag springs are a bear. Glad to help.
im a glock guy but today got a p365, my first non-glock pistol, after lots of research decided it was a great gun for what i needed and had a pretty good reputation. 1st i couldnt use the slide release it was so hard to operate, then i struggled to load the mags. man i was frustrated but i figured it all out. ive never had to break in my glocks :)
I’ve owned dozens of guns in my life and have never had trouble loading mags until this p365. Great gun though.
I had the same issue with the slide release. When it was brand new I couldn’t drop the slide with it without two hands. It’s broken in a bit and can use the release, but it’s still harder than I’d want.
This is by far the toughest mag I have ever loaded. The P365s spring is sooo tight. I guess after 10 years it will be about perfect though lol.
Thanks for thr video. The sigp365 is the worstgun to break down ...reload and clean...a nighmare every way
Me too! I bit the bullet (pun intended) and got a mag loader as I was making myself crazy trying to load these!! I had 2 mags originally and bought 2 more so I didn’t have to load often also….😂 Saving my thumbs!!
Thank you!!!! I just about broke my thumbs loading 3 magazines😂😂😂 This was very helpful!
7 months have gone by - are you getting better? ive had mine for over a year now, and i feel like im a damn PRO now
I found a $6 fix. Ordered the ISMI Plus 5% 10 round mag spring from NDZ Performance. Ran this in both 12 round XL mag and 12 round 365 mag (with factory 365 finger extension). I can load 12 rounds much easier. Full mags will actually load with action closed. I left it fully loaded for 5 days to break in. Function and slide lock was great throughout my last 3 shoots! Web site says the material endures longer but gonna see how it's does long term.
Thanks for posting this. Great information!
I just barely got 7 in a 12 extended mag, there was no way id be able to get past it. Using the pen got me all 12 in, thank you so much!
I’m glad you posted this! I thought it was just me😂 I was about to walk around with just 5-7 rounds😂😂😂 shit was whipping my ass lol
Thanx man! It was very helpful to know this wasn't a me issue! I forced mine so hard, and then it wouldn't load into the gun, I had to force it in, then when I unloaded the mag the slide wouldn't lock back because the spring got messed up, I disassembled it and put it back together which fixed that problem, but I'm going to take your advice and load 9 for now.
Cool. It seems like letting the springs compress for a day or two really make a difference.
I love the magazines but in the beginning they are tough to load. Not a bad trade off for an extra 4 rounds in my opinion.
@@wdtony no kidding, and 10 rounds is actually the max legal limit in nj anyway. Besides I’m a sworn sig fan since I laid hands on their 365!
As I said in another video, getting that 12th round in is like the feats of strength during Festivus.
I see I wasn’t just me, as said by everyone here. Glad I can by and learned something new!
Try the 15 round! You'll buy a speed loader like an UpLULA in no time. Even using that it's a little hard to get the last round in.
Hahaha I can barely get 8
@@stephengreico2810 I eventually got it to be less of a problem. I loaded 11 and let it sit for 3-4 weeks, then loaded 12. Then I ended up buying a Glock 19 and a CZ P-07 with the CZ becoming my main carry for risk mitigation, AIWB, and the better SA trigger after the initial DA pull.
Thank god I’m not the only one. Got one today and after 9 rounds of 10 my fingers r bleeding
I think my thumbs still have indentations. :)
Thanks. Just picked up my 10 rd pistol today. Couldn't get past 7 rds. Your Bic solution is great.
Appreciate the feedback. Hopefully you’ll love yours as much as I love mine. Very reliable so far with all types of ammo. No failures at all at this point. Just gotta take a pen along to fight that garage door spring in the mag.
Glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem. Took my XL to the range yesterday for the first time and couldn't load either mag past 5/6 rounds.
THANK YOU! I have the 17 round mag, and just like everyone else said, I thought it was just me. Appreciate you making and posting this.
Thanks for this video!! People that think they know keep telling me I must have weak hands. It is amazing, just because they have never had an issue, they do not believe a magazine can be that hard to load. I am stronger than most and have many guns and have never used a loader for any of them. There is no talking to some people, lol!
I bought my Sig today and this is my exact experience as well. Thank you for the information!
That's crazy using a pen like that. Just buy the mag Lula loader. I have one but even with that mag Lula the 12 round was almost impossible to get that last round into the magazine. Then it wouldn't seat in the gun when I loaded it and when I finally got it to seat after banging on the bottom of it which is not a good thing the slide wouldn't rack! It was just jamming up on that last round instead of sliding back over it and picking it up on the return. In sigs little manual it says to lock the slide back put the magazine in and then release the slide and it will put one in the chamber. Eventually I got it to work by simply putting 11 into the magazine putting one in the chamber with the slide and then putting two more rounds into it after popping out the magazine. Kind of a pain in the ass but I suppose it's a good thing to have a good strong spring. Basically had the same problem with the 15 round mags that came with this tacpac.
P320 mags are easier to load than most, while the P365's are at best 3 times more difficult. Maglula works on both and on most 9mm mags. It is one of the best accessories I've purchased.
i usually load my P320 Magazine with 5 or 8 rounds mostly because you don't need a Full Magazine to kill an intruder or burgular in your house when all you need is a Head shot in some ways it makes sense i mean why go through the hassle of loading a full 16 or 18 round Magazine when all you really need is just a few rounds
@@dallasmay4031 yeah... don't do that put an many rounds as you can in your mag you'll thank me later
@@V2_Dre yeah but it hurts the fuck out of my fingers wich is why i also carry a spare pistol in an ankle holster
@@dallasmay4031 get a magguts extension kit it helped me out
@@fuesha or just simply go for a head shoot or leg shot it's hard for the intruder to attack with a bullet in their head and hard for them to try and run when they have bullet in their leg don't you think?
When I was a 10 year old kid I always reloaded my dads magazines for him jo problem. Fast forward 30 years I get my own gun and I couldnt get more than 5 rounds in. I thought wow I cant believe I did this as a kid.
Glad I found your video it made me happy that it wasnt just me struggling with reloading with it.
I felt like a wimp loading this mag. Very happy to see the pen technique. Thanks for posting the video.
Got 11 rounds in no problem but despite my best efforts and about 20 attempts I could not for the life of me get that 12th. Thanks for the trick with the pen. Got it in that time, no problem. Stiffest damn mags Ive ever loaded!
Thanks I just boat a loader on ebay for 10 bucks but its not here yet.I tried your video and it worked.I got all 10 rounds in.The 10th was hard and i thought I bent the lips but it worked.Thnx!
The cost of a mag loader is small in comparison to the amount spent on the firearm and ammo that will go through it. I bought two different styles of mag loaders to try out.
I bought 1 speed loader, and it didnt work because the round hits the loader first and doesnt want to catch.... but after 1 year of practicing, i dont need any tools anymore --- use your 2nd thumb to help push the tound down and pull back at the same time to catch --- then you can slam the mag down and finish seating it
This is unconventional but I love it. About destroyed my thumbs at the range with my 365 xl. Thanks for the tip!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 me too brother !! thum break gang🤣🤣🤣👍
I had the same problem with my p365 12 round mags. Even the 10 round mag wasn't easy. I actually bent the ramp on an uplula loader trying to get bullet number 12 in. I kept the mags loaded for a few months.. and would unload and reload a couple of times a week. Now i can get all rounds in by hand. The 12th round is still tight.. but very doable.
That was me last night. I only got 8 into the 10 bullet cartridge. I appreciate the tip. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
This is funny for me, in a good way, I injured my thumbs last year AND I'll be 70 next month. I bought a S%W CSX with a similar mag and i couldn't get more than 5 rounds in. Thought I was falling apart and went to get a mag loader (easy) and resigned to use it from now on.
I watched this video today and walked to the bedroom and got out my 1911 and loaded it right up easy. Gee Thanks Guy!!!
Just got some and have never had any pistol I could not load a magazine all the way. Thanks for the heads up. Ridiculous for what they charge for these. Note to self...SHTF, have Bic pens in the bug out bag.......
Thanks for the great idea. That last round you’re trying to get in will never go in. Rewatch the video and count the rounds going in - it’s already at full capacity. I like the idea with a plastic pen though!
Also, every 2 to 3 rounds, you need to slam the mag into your hand and make sure the rounds are going in correctly, and THEN slam the back of the mag into your hand to make sure they all SEAT to the rear of the mag... It DOES help for the last round, and after you have 12 rounds, you SHOULD be able to slam the mag again and STILL have some slack.
Ive got strong hands and have never had as much trouble with a mag as these sigs.
I agree. It’s not just hand strength, I was struggling pushing down with my body weight.
Thanks for the video. This trick worked like a charm. I added a pen to my gun case.
Totally usefull. I thought I was doing something wrong. 12ths in & Bic in the bag. Thank you
Thank you so much for this video , I had a 365 tac pac and my grandpa had the 365x and the 365 tac was easy for him to rack and load the magazine so I traded him and these mags were a nightmare compared to my others. The magazines that come with the 365x I have are made in the USA . My old tacpac came with mags in Italy, which I believe are made by mecgar which I prefer
Having big fingers and this ridiculously tight magazine is an exercise in frustration. Nice low cost solution!
New to hand guns! Thought I had pretty strong hands until I tried loading 365XL mags. Got 5 in and thought damn there has to be a trick I’m not seeing. Thx for video 👍🏻
I just received 2 15rd mags for my new XL and I thought I was doing something wrong until I saw this video. I have a 9mm speed loader and I decided I was going to relentlessly shove the full 15 rds. After about 2 - 3 cycles of loading and unloading, the spring loosened up a tad bit. I guess it’ll take some breaking in. Oh well. Still a great pistol.
You didn’t have any issues shooting that first magazine with full 15 rounds? No malfunctions? Seems rather tight and mag needs to be slapped in to be seated correctly. Let me know
Just bought 2 365’s for myself and wife. Yes. Very hard to load but in the SIG case was a Maglula loader. Makes loading SO much easier!. I guess SIG had a lot of complaints LOL.
Great to hear they are including a mag loader now. Appreciate the comment.
My video tip was meant in case a loader wasn’t available.
Thank you for making this video. We don't have weak hands! :)
liked the video and thanks! I had no pen put a couple pencils. One with the eraser about gone, that one worked perfectly. It would even jam sideways a bit and stick. I could load then easily remove the pencil.
Purchased this gun yesterday, .My thumb is killing me also. Love the gun. The spring to so tight would not chamber that 12th round, so I only use 11 in the magazine.
Thanks for this! As a woman, my hands aren’t quite as strong. This really worked!
I had the same issue. The pen made it so damn easy lol good deal man much appreciated
Thanks! Thought it was just my weak hands lol, never had this problem with steyr aug mags lol
The struggle is real. I have a Maglula loader, and it helps with the first few rounds. After that, the rounds start nosing down a little and it binds up.
I’m so glad I found this. After struggling with my pride for 15 minutes I threw in the towel. 😅
We all just have weak hands. 😄
lol, glad it's not just me.. just got home from the range with my new XL. Thanks for the vid
I’m glad I’m not the only one who was having massive struggles…thanks.
tightest most strongest spring of all mags i’ve ever loaded made me consider selling my p365x back to the retailer that 12th rd is a complete bitch & will test all your strength and bone density
Yep, the Sig mags are HARD to load. I use the Glock speed loader. Works great and is less than 10 bucks. Make sure to get the Glock loader that fits the 43x. Works perfect for the 365
Thanks for the info!
$10 is better than $20 or $30.
thanks for this - i bought a CRAP loader that didnt work
Thank you for your comment. I got my Sig Sauer p365xl Rose Comp yesterday and tried to load the magazines with the loader that came with it and was only able to load 3 cartridges. After watching the video I read your comment and thought I have nothing to lose. I pushed my 43xl loader on hard and I heard the springs pop. I was able to put 11 in each magazine. You saved my frustration and my fingers. Thank you!!
i have the same problem. i have been shooting for long time this is the first magazine that requires you to go to the gym to load no problem with my glocks out from the box. just got my gun, zerow rounds yet. i just loaded it and let it sit for a few weeks.
I have a speed loader and I could only get 11 in one mag and 4 in the other. Before watching this video I thought they might have had some obstruction in them. I was looking for a way to take my mag apart. Interestingly enough , it only appears to be a problem with the 12 round mags. I don’t have a problem with my 17 round mag.
Lmaoo I just got through watching the vid of the guy telling me I have weak hands
That’s a funny video. It’s weird because my “weak hands” couldn’t load a 12th round but were somehow strong enough to bend the feed lip on the mag.
Last guy tried making every other guy a girly-man w/dead fish hands!
I know I don't have weak hands, yet I struggled to fully load that 12 round double stack magazine!
Screw it, I'm getting a speed loader.
I have problems with my 12 rd mags also ! The last one is a thumb breaker !
Bruh this video was absolutely the most useful thing. An I thought I was gonna break my finger trying to load these things in.
OUTSTANDING! Bell Biv Devoe - I Thought It Was Me!!! 😊
I thought I was the only one! Thanks for the idea!
I used the little plastic mag loader that comes with some Glocks to get the last round in and I'm gonna let us sit with twelve for a while see if that helps.
had to lol;
I thought it was just ME! holy fawk, what a pita...ordered upula
Jumpin' bejesus, I'm watching you and trying to load my magazines as well. I've got 3 in and am having difficulty with a 4th. This is nuts! Eventually I got them all in, but the magazine was closing so tightly I could not rack the slide! I can do it will 11 so will leave the mags with 11 shells for awhile. Can you imagine being in a life threatening situation and not being able to rack the slide?!
I'm having a problem too thats how I found this video. First I found the other about weak hands. Never had this much trouble before with any gun. If I knew this I would of never bought this gun.
I was having such a hard time loading my SS Clip. I thought I didn't know what I was doing, until I seen this video. This video was very informative. Now I know it just wasn't me. It's extremely hard to load this darn thing😟.
Is there any another brand of clip I could use in place of the Sig clip?🤔
However, my hands were hurting trying to load this clip, So I put on some form fitting hand gloves, and it made it so much easier to load the amo inside of this clip🤗
I don’t think any other manufacturer makes magazines for these p365’s.
I thought that it was just me. Just bought the P365 Fuse. I'm going to try this.
I thought it was me. Thanks so much for the tutorial
You can loosen up the spring like this:
Get a long rigid object (like the handle side of a spoon or wrench) and shove it down the empty mag a few dozen times, actuating the spring thru the full range of motion. My mags are significantly easier to load now, I have no feeding issues.
That’s an excellent tip. I will try that. I’m assuming you have no feeding issues.
I have 5, 12 round mags. All are very hard to get that 12th round in. And worse. On a loaded chamber. Try to seat the mag. It takes so much force. Speedy reloads are hard.
Also. My slide scratches the top bullet in the mag. Cause there’s no wiggle room. I put 11 rounds in my spare mag now. Reloads are so much easier.
I don't feel so bad now. Thanks. I could only get to 4 b4 I found ur video. 😁👍
I just bought a 365 XL and the mags that came with them are so hard to load after like 8 rounds it’s ridiculous don’t have this issue with glock mags I wish there were better after market mags.
Haha so glad I found this and know I’m not alone had a rough day w my new toy today at the range lmao
Legend has it, it only really holds 11.
Only the God’s can load 12.
I never had problems on any mag before...... I bought the contraption 29.95
My thumb was killing me and I could not physicly put the last 3 rounds in.
The contraption was fast and easy
Super helpful video. Thank you!
I've found that the orange plastic chamber safety flag that comes with it in the case works great.
You just need to use BOTH thumbs to push a new round down and HOPE it catches before you lose strength to hold it anymore, lol --- I bought an aftermarket speed loader that DOESNT work, so I was forced to learn how to do it without any tools... NOW im a fucking PRO, and I can do all three mags without any breaks! Good luck!
Great input. Thanks.
Get a Speed Beez. I know you said to save money and just use a pen, but damn, that Speed Beez loader makes it effortless.
I thought it was just me! Thanks for making me laugh.
How's it going mate. I saw your video which is about the Lexapro. How are you now?
Load assist tool is a GODSEND for these P365 clips 🤣
Wow, that was so painful to watch, I will just buy a mag loader.
I found your sense of humor useful lol ..
It’s the stupid magazine comments for me 😭🤣. I appreciated this video!
I Couldn't even get the 11th in, now I have biceps on my fingers. $20 and $30 for a Speed Loader is so worth it.
Thank God for you brother. Here I thought I was frail
Getting the 12th round in isn’t the end of the problem. Once you have 12 rounds in it you have to force the mag to seat in the gun if the slide isn’t locked back. It’s such a tight fit I wonder about it causing issues. Has any body put enough rounds through these mags to make a difference in the tension?