Massad Ayoob - What to do if you get pulled over while carrying - Critical Mas Episode 11
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- Traffic stops can be tricky. Especially if you are legally carrying a handgun. With experience from the other side of the stop, Massad Ayoob offers has many helpful tips to avoid any kind of misunderstanding. Because when you are armed, a misunderstanding could get you killed. Plus he has a few ideas that might help you avoid a ticket.
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Critical Mas(s) with Massad Ayoob is a show that provides expert analysis over a wide range of contemporaneous topics related to civilian and law enforcement self defense, the use of force, and second amendment issues, provided by a renowned and established author with a career spanning decades in training law enforcement officers and the public at large, who is frequently called upon to provide expert witness testimony.
ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several state and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught
for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has
appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two
years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
0:00 - Potential for a Misunderstanding
1:02 - Required to Notify the Police?
2:30 - Conceal Carry Permit
3:25 - Handing over the Gun
5:13 - Verbal Notification
6:42 - Night-time Tips
7:57 - Attitude Test
9:30 - Left Handed
10:05 - Unbuckling the Seatbelt
10:51 - The Glovebox
11:25 - Avoid Misunderstandings
12:15 - What do you think?
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Very very informative thank you so much. It’s basically just common sense and respect for law officers. I am a cc permit holder I would never do anything to jeopardize losing my right carry weapon.
In NC you don't have to say I"I have a Gun". You can say "I have a permit and I am carrying". It's not the information that could be problematic, it's the verbiage that you use.
Just set gun on passenger seat? After turning dome on before officer gets out?
My 23 year old son was stopped in a known speed trap town back in the early 2000's on the way out to visit me in the country. Just like Massad said... pick-up in park, engine off, dome light on, both hands on the steering wheel (with his license and CCW and registration and insurance card in the left). He explained he was carrying and that it was in the four o-clock position, and asked what the officer (mid 50's) wanted him to do. The officer replied, "Don't reach for yours... and I won't reach for mine". As the officer was looking things over, he asked what my son was carrying. He answered he had my old Colt 1911, because I had bought a new gun. The officer asked what I had bought, and my son said another Colt 1911... of course. The officer handed everything back to my son, and told him to watch his speed better (they NEVER give warnings in that town for speeding). And, as he was ready to walk away, told my son to stay safe... and stay armed!!!
Great exemplary story! Thanks for sharing👍
And then he called you a fudd for carrying a 1911 when you could have something better!
Hehehe
@@bonsaw57 do you get in a lot of barfights saying foolish things like that?😄
@@wisdomseeker4898 No, he loses a lot of barfights saying things like that.
Several years ago my wife was stopped by county sheriff. She has a permit but was not carrying. She got a lecture about her not having her gun with her.
As it SHOULD be. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
@@Choober65 unless there was a good reason to not have it such as she had gone to dinner and drink's. With a zero tolerance on alcohol and carry that is a very common reason a CCW holder would be unarmed.
The one that occurred for me was I was spending the day at an amusement park and can't carry on the premises and wouldn't trust leaving it in the car, so it stayed home. I was pulled over on the way home and the officer asked where the firearm was when he approached. All I had to say was I left it at home since I had spent all day at the park.
I don’t care about this so much that I’m writing this comment to say as much.
Sounds about white
@@Choober65
It's none of their business. Until an individual MAKES it their business.
It should NOT be that way.
I was stopped one night and did exactly what you said; inside light on, hands on the wheel, paperwork in my hand. I informed the officer that my pistol was in the center console. He asked me to hand it to him and I smiled and told him that I would really rather that he come around and get it because we were both nervous. He asked me to step out, which I did, he patted me down and asked me to stand behind my car, at which time he retrieved my weapon. He looked it over then placed it back in the console, informed me that I had been driving a little too fast. He ran my information,, handed my license and paperwork back to me, and told me to slow it down and have a nice evening.
You’re a card carrying good guy,and you were forthright with him-and he still frisked you and did a cursory search of your vehicle-he violated your rights-because he could.Never allow a search-if you live in a state that requires you tell officers you’re carrying-don’t allow a search.Hand them your CCW permit/license and that will be the end of it-if you’re legal-they probably won’t write you anyway.I never wrote anyone who was legal and also had a CCW-they went through the same background check I did to get on the job.They deserve the same respect.
As a criminal defense attorney, I agree with "IrishDefense's" reply: do not volunteer to get out of the car, consent to allow the officer into your car, or hand over your firearm on your own volition. You unnecessarily make yourself vulnerable to god knows what an officer will come up with, and it instills bad habits in an officer who expects that behavior from others.
@@jackroberts6938 agreed.Thanks for your vote.
@@irishdefense77 Okay, but what if that officer sees your refusal to allow him to search your vehicle, or step out of the car, as you potentially having something to hide? Didn't Massad just say not to argue with a police officer on the side of the road, "- you're not going to win that argument"?
@@TemenosLgood point I've dealt with many an officer who has that state of mind, and I've had my vehicle impounded before, just because I said something the officer didn't like right when he was about to let me go.
This man's advice, as it relates to firearms, is pure gold.
Yeah, the advice to just admit to why the officer would be pulling you over is not smart. Never admit guilt.
@@Chopperblane There are pros and cons to either. You can either admit guilt and take your chance with getting a warning, or take your chances in court because you can bet that officer will likely write you up if you are not as forthcoming.
@@toastmalone8875 I'd rather keep my gun and have the ticket than be bent over helpless hoping I get a warning.
I'll beat the ticket later since the guards on the court house door will not let me enter when I set off the metal detector.
They can't find me guilty when they won't let me have my day IN court.
Most of his advice is very fuddy.
He has surprisingly little knowledge about the durability and intent of newer gun design.
This gentleman does the most comprehensive and professional instructional videos I’ve seen on the Internet anywhere at any time.
i totally get what you mean and i immediately thought about this guy - completely different topic - but... in some way... similar type of man: knows his shit. no whistles or bling. just straight information. totally ordered to perfection... nowadays called mansplaining :D
th-cam.com/video/yDjlRu4CnjI/w-d-xo.html
check him out on Lt Joe Kenda's show.
Hes been around for quite a while. He use to be on as an adviser in a guns magazine i use to buy
Read his books too!
Those who are licensed to carry are NOT the problem in this Nation.
Those that are paid to carry are the problem.
@@robertsmith2956 FACTS
Ya wtf concealed carry permit holders, have to act like someone who’s a criminal who may attempt to shoot someone? Especially the police.
As a new gun owner, I'm really glad that I stumbled onto Mr Ayoob's videos. I've learned a lot about so many aspects of both shooting and gun rights. I'd like to offer my own take on getting stopped by LE. As an African American, I agree with everything in this video, but I take one point regarding presenting the license/registration and Proof of Insurance a step further because a lot of folks in my demographic seem to be getting shot over "mistaken intent". When I travel, I put my registration, license, CCW permit, and Insurance card in my visor pouch. This way, I don't ever have to reach anywhere near my body or ANY closed compartments. I'm able to keep one hand on the steering wheel, and this gives the Officer a clear view of my other hand and the visor. I've been doing this long before I became a gun owner and, as Mr. Ayoob says, it's kept the tension levels low for both of us during those unexpected traffic stops. Thanks for the great videos, Massad!
I'm not African American but I'm taking your idea and running with it.
I go one farther. I am only required to have an electronic copy with me in the car. So I put a pdf of registration on a 40 year old digital disk. I doubt they have any means to read it, I haven't even seen the disks sold in 30 years.
Nothing in the law say it has to be on a device they can read. Just needs to be a digital format.
Excellent advice. Thank you so much Friend 👍
@@robertsmith2956 Very clever.
@@brotha_pedat It pays to read the laws they right. Not what they tell you they say.
Never considered owning a gun until this year. I found your page and it is full of amazing videos that answer questions I have and questions I have not even though of, thank you sir!
This video should be a part of every carry class. for those places that have constitutional carry this should be part of drivers ed.
ABSOLUTELY. Couldn't agree more. And even in grade school.
Every class. Every year. At least one day out of the year.
I couldnt agree more. I think every person carrying should have to go through a gun safety coarse.
100% Its a shame that they don't teach these things in schools. With as many firearms as we have in this country, you'd think the government would make it mandatory for our schools to teach some form of gun safety.
@@aaronrichards19886 My high school got ride of their rifle team saying it encouraged violence. Not sure any of the people making these decisions even know how to shoot a gun
@@aaronrichards19886 That is a PARENTS responsibility. But then we don't have that anymore in this country either. lol
I was a State Trooper for 35 years. This is excellent advice and exactly what you should do. 😊
I'm in texas and it's none of a pigs GDamn business whether I have gun in my car or not. When asked, I would tell them in those exact words.
@MP Wow! I bet you NEVER get tickets! Will say it’s only a matter of time before you regret being a rude prick!
@@BlankSlate1111 I think you missed the point of this discussion.
My cousin is an Arkansas State Trooper. Here, as long as we do these basic things, I have no issues with letting a Constitutional officer know what he or she is dealing with. Just be calm, tell them , while hands on the wheel, then ask, May I get the reg/lic UP FROM THE SUN VISOR. AND THE WEAPON IS ON ME....ETC. We are nearing Constitutional carry in Arkansas, and Missouri. Words : Weapon, license, where. Just note the process. I do not blame officers and want to help them. Turn engine off, take keys on dash? Great advise!!
The most deaths stats for a cop are self-deletions. You were, and most likely, still are a tyrant bully with a super-sized ego but incredibly fragile ego. What part of "Shall not be infringed" did you not understand when you took your oath?
Pulled over twice in 10+ years. Both times I handed my CCW to the officer along with my license..both times turned into a great conversation about firearm choices, training and responsibility. Both times I was thanked and asked to slow down a bit.
God bless America
You guys in America really have something to be proud of with the 2nd.
That opening lines gave me chills. Gotta visit sometime, especially the open plains. Greetings from South Africa
Stop up here in Wisconsin, and in the winter time - you’ll love it (…but remember to bring a hat…)!
We all wish we didnt need it... But the world is what it is
@@ynotbloom yeah I doubt I could live in the city like LA or NYC.
Milwaukee is our “big city.” Looks and feels like one. Madison is more like a giant college town with city benefits. Green Bay, Appleton, LaCross, and Eau Claire are smaller “big cities”…but we sometimes call them
“Small towns that got big, and forgot they are supposed to be cities!”
Lots of nice smaller cities, towns, and villages as well to visit.
And the truth of the matter is, when US citizens no longer have 2A and the globalist Marxists win, we will all be put in chains. When we go, the world goes.
When I was 21 in Washington state, I was pulled over for speeding by a state trooper. My girlfriend, and I were both licensed to carry, had her 4 year old daughter in the back, and were returning from an afternoon of shooting. I was young and dumb I will not deny that. Thank god I have got some more firearms training and education in the last 15 years. I had an unloaded AR15 and Remington 870 in the back seat on the floor wrapped in a towel. An M&P .40 cal on my hip, a .380 on my ankle, a glock 27 in the glove compartment on top of the registration, and my girlfriend had a pistol in her purse. I was sweating bullets. The trooper approached and said hello and asked if I knew why he pulled me over. I responded yes I became distracted briefly and didn’t realize how fast I was going I am sorry about that. At that point I also said I feel that it’s important that I let you know we both have concealed licenses and there are firearms in the vehicle. He said that’s just fine thank you for letting me know just please give me the registration. I replied that unfortunately it is in the glove box under a Glock what would you like me to do? He paused and said, would you mind telling me how many guns you have and were they are? I politely responded in detail about all of the guns, where they are, and which ones are loaded. He said thank you very much please just slowly open the glove box, remove the glock pointed in a safe direction, and set it on the dash. Then get the registration for me. I complied and he said, ok great I will go back to my car now, you don’t touch yours and I won’t touch mine and everyone will go home happy. He wrote me a speeding ticket, but I think given the circumstances it was the best possible outcome. Nobody and no guns left the vehicle. The trooper handled things very calmly and professionally, I do credit a lot of how well this traffic stop went to my compliant, calm, forthcoming communication despite some poor choices in firearm storage and transport. I think this video hit the nail on the head. Suck up your pride and ego and treat them with respect and do what they say while moving predictably.
Awesome story Bro!👍😎
True, or the alternative is ☠️🔥💩
Damn, you need a bigger car.
Amen!🇺🇸
Most Police are not worthy of respect.
This Man is providing common sense to those who might be unsure about what to do.
He always gives great advice, I respect what he has to say.
Last time I was pulled over was at the start of the Pandemic. I was on my 13th straight day of working as a truck driver. I ran a stoplight right after a city P.D. car had driven past me. I watched him do the U-turn and just pulled over and waited for him to catch up. When he asked why I had pulled over, I told him that I had ran the stoplight and how it was my fault. He let me go with a verbal warning. I know this is a bit late to this chat but I hope someone learns from my experience. These are just people doing a job. Agruue it out in court
Very interesting, informative and fascinating. I have no idea why I watched this, but I'm glad I did, living in England where owning a water pistol is about the most dangerous weapon 99.99% of the population might own legally. Even that might be debatable as illegal just incase it wasn't water in it. Enjoy and covet your freedoms - we lost ours - don't let them take them away.
? You can own firearms in England, can't you?. I live in Holland, most people here also think it's near impossible to own a gun but you can own 5. Just get a membership at a gun club, take the safety course, get your obligatory practice time in and done. Carrying the gun on you while shopping is a nogo, that is true.
It amazes me the dichotomy of view for citizens in England. By that I mean while you yourself have an appreciation for the relative freedoms here in the US, there are so many in England who desire their gilded cages and the false sense of security that comes with it. I just don't get it. Anyway, Thanks for your comment. Cheers!
@@keesketsers5866 Yes, it is possible to own firearms in the UK. I have a couple of friends that have rifles and shotguns.
@@gjhoward I'm one who certainly is comfortable with the level of gun control in the UK. It is possible to own guns in the UK, but you have to have a licence to do so, and you cannot carry them (or any other weapon) on a day-to-day basis. There is no 'right' to own a gun here, but if you pass some basic safety checks, you can have a gun, providing you use it for a specific purpose and only carry it for that purpose. The advantange for us is that ordinary citizens are not able to take the lives of other ordinary citizens. It's a big advantage.
@@tlangdon12 This is why as a citizen of the US I can say I rule my Government and my Government doesn’t rule me. I own and carry firearms not only to protect myself from any bad individuals but also too keep my freedom that my forefathers fought our former rulers get. My Second amendment is the bases of my freedom and the only reason I live in the only nation to ever have this amazing freedom that the people truly control. We have the largest armed force in the history of the world to guarantee that no Government foreign or domestic can take that away. I now this is not something that people from other countries can understand because they’ve never had what we have in this country. So that being said my Government does not allow me to have guns my God given rights to Life, Liberty and Freedom laid out in the constitution of the United States of America does. So I do agree if you apply for a permit in England to get a shotgun or rifle for fox hunting and if you have enough money you might get one. But in the US we have our guns to protect our most valuable possession, that is our Freedom! And that is Worth more that my life, because after having this I wouldn’t live any other way.
I've had at least 2 stops while carrying that I can recall. I informed the officers and gave them my permit along with my DL. There was never an issue and my pistol was never taken. I think in most cases they're relieved that they're dealing with someone with a squeaky clean record.
And then there is the time In Rosenberg, TX that a cop after doing a stop for nothing more than an unbuckled seat belt pulls his gun and points it at the driver after the driver nicely informs him that he is legally carrying. Said stupid cop then waits until backup arrives and then informs the newcomer just that the driver has a gun. So then they do a hard arrest just because of an unbuckled seat belt. No charges were filled against the driver and not even a bad mark on the officers file. He did quit so I think the rest of the force mocked him a lot and he eventually quit.
Jeff: Ditto
@@adama1294 what about Philando Castile who calmly told the police he was legally carrying, was told to get his license, started to reach for it, and got murdered by the police? The police got off without any punishment because he was "afraid"
@@nk-dw2hm For that reason and others like that I won’t tell them I have a pistol in my car. Its never on my hip when I’m driving and I keep it out of sight.
@@nk-dw2hm I believe in Castile's case it was a lack of communication between Castile and the officer. I once thought Castile was acting like a squirrel reaching and not following directions but the more I watched the video I see miscounication. Cop asked for Castile's drivers licence, Castile told cop he had a gun and permit cop says "don't pull it out" as Castile is reaching for his wallet. Castile should have immediately stopped moving and articulated that he was reaching for his wallet. I was stopped a couple years ago and did the same thing Castile did and realized my mistake by not calmly telling the officer that I was reaching for my wallet and where I was carrying my firearm because it was near my wallet. I was lucky I had a calm cop or it may have gone bad.
Its so nice to see someone on TH-cam advising people to cooperate and to be nice and respectful to law enforcement officers. What an informative and credible presentation.
This guy is 100% true every time I was honest with an officer during a speed violation he has let me go. Also, when the cop ask you how your day is doing do the same for him there is a human behind that badge.
Absolutely people should never forget police officers are human beings too , not only that, Children of God Also !
I've always had the same type of encounter. Be honest, be humble and for God's sake don't be a jerk! That's a hard enough job and you don't need to make it harder by escalating it to a fight. Even if the cop is being a dick, you've done nothing wrong, you aren't going to win Fighting with him or her on the side of the road. Be a good human and you'll have a better life!
I've actually had an officer thank me for my honesty, and for being so cool about the stop. Still gave me the ticket though.
I had an RCMP officer who could have easily nailed me for nearly a hundred mile per hour, he didn't turn his radar gun on till I was around 80 Mi an hour and ended up writing me a ticket for about 71. By the time he made his U-turn and pulled in behind me the engine was off the window was open and the registration and license were in my hand. He asked me how my day was going, and I said not here so good as it was before you saw me with a smile on my, face. When it was all done I let him know that I knew that he could have easily quite honestly written me a much larger ticket and I appreciated his generosity
I was taught in 1975 while in the military, that if stopped, roll down the window and place both hands on the top of the steering wheel. Keep them there until commanded to perform some action with them. I prefer that if asked for my weapon, that I keep my hands away from it and let the officer take it. In no way do I want a misunderstanding or to make him nervous. I do whatever he says, legal or not. You can argue in a courtroom but not in a morgue.
Facts💯🙏🏾
Yep. I usually put left hand on my rear view mirror. Right on the outside of the wheel.
You can argue in a courtroom but not in a morgue. Priceless advice sir!!!
I place both of my hands on the open windowsill and lean my head out so the officer can see me. From this awkward position you offer no immediate threat.
Works very well with the great professional law enforcement we have in Arizona. Great guys.
On one occasion, I told the officer I was licensed and armed. He said: “Well, don’t show me yours and I won’t show you mine”. Got a verbal warning and everyone left happy.
My first and only encounter with an LEO while carrying was very similar. He thanked me for my candor and we wound up having a short conversation about what we like to carry.
This is what all LEO's I know have told me.
@@Rusted_Link How many you know ? You in trouble a lot ?
@@m1a1abrams93 4 and no.
Wish they could've had that same energy with the 2 Compton sheriff that got shot at the metro station ..
Very informative! I always hand my carry permit over along with my license. On a side note…They should have the school resource officer give a brief seminar on proper etiquette when being pulled over to all the driving age students in school.
my school resource officer patrolled the parking lot looking for uninspected/unregistered cars (turns out in a very rural area, dudes driving beat up trucks don’t inspect them)
I think that’s a great idea and should be pursued
In my 29 years as both a tactical officer and police supervisor, your words of education are invaluable. One thing that was paramount to myself, officers and civilians is to go home at the end of the watch alive. I have often at roll calls delt with training the officers under my supervision regarding the correct way to deal with a lawful carry conceal stop. Now that I am retired I practice the training if I am stopped while carrying concealed. Your information is spot on thank you for probably saving someone life.
Thank you for your service !
Sadly no one seems to understand the 2nd amendment does not infer limits. “Shall not be infringed”
Some years ago while stationed in Nevada, I was blazing southbound on I-15 back to Nellis AFB. Got stopped by Nevada State Police. A very cordial and professional trooper. Informed him that I was carrying a pistol, he asked where. Without moving my hands (still on the wheel) told him where it was on my person. He then asked me to hand it to him. I politely refused, offering to get out of the car and let him take it as I have absolutely no wish to touch it. I got out, he took the pistol, we talked and he told me to slow it down. Then he wanted to know where I got my pistol as he has been looking for one just like it. Chatted for another few minutes, wished him a safe shift and went on my way. Treat them good/with respect and you will get the same in return.
There are axehoe state troopers out there.
Be really courteous.
too long story...
ok....
"Anybody with MORE than FORTY Dollars is a drug dealer. Youre under arrest"..
Arrested, hancuffed, towed, jailed, won in court, he got his ass chewed by the judge Cost me $2000 to be right.
Different situations call for different responses but in about three situations where I've been pulled I've never been asked to display the firearm. It is in my front right pocket, not a good place for somebody to reach. We can argue about sticky holsters in the front pocket later. I believe I would ask for him to find backup before I went any further.
Agree, most of the time.
@@GoodmanMIke59 Good idea Mike. Offering to wait while the officer gets back-up. It shows you are advocating complete safety for everyone's sake. I would then inform the officer that my hands will not leave the steering wheel unless he gives me permission after a request. I live in Michigan and my first words are to inform the officer I have a CPL. Then I inform whether or not I have protection and where it is and if it's chambered or not. I would not have thought about turning off the engine in the winter, so this video taught me something. It's great to learn from experienced officers.
Mostly agree. If you follow their directions probably gonna be ok. Lots of my friends are ex cops and we all agree they need to be constantly reminded that we have a Constitution. More good ones than the power trip ones!
I’m in law enforcement. The minute someone is honest and informs me that they are carrying I immediately feel relief and know they mean no harm.
Thank you for your service, stay safe.
And as a responsible citizen, if in doubt, I ask the officer, "How would you like to proceed?".
My entitlement is the same as yours.
We both go home.
Thank you for putting your life on the line every time you put that uniform on but let me ask you a question my friend if the higher ups your boss is want you to be there Pitbull and exercise tyrannical laws like gun grabs and things that you know are against the Constitution would you do it even if they threaten your job??? That is the question you have to ask yourself you took a oath.... To the Constitution and to protect the people of your county but there's going to come a time where you are going to have to choose what's right against what is wrong even if your job is on the line..... A friend of mine once said if military and the police choose to enforce tyrannical laws they now become the enemy not sure if I agree with that one...
I was pulled over for speeding one Sunday morning on my way to the shooting range near Burnet Texas. I had my LTC on me. In my trunk where all of my handguns I was going to use to practice with that day. Young officer friendly, a kid about my son's age (35 or so) could see that I was a senior citizen. But knowing I had my guns packed in my truck on a slow Sunday morning I pulled over believing the officer was trying to pass me. I didn't realized that the speed limit changed from 65 to 30 mph in less than a mile because of the small town ahead. I was listening to an audio book on the Apollo 11 landing and didn't realized the speed limit changed so quickly. I won't say how fast I was going, but the officer knew I wasn't the first person to bust the speed limit in that area.
I immediately gave the young officer my driver's license and my LTC. He thanked me for showing him my license to carry. I guess that relieved him that I was not an some criminal. In short he gave me a break and said to "have a nice day". He smiled as I closed my window and I give him a salute. That nice officer saved me a lot of money in traffic fines and points. I had a clean record and that also helped.
because criminals up to no good will notify you immediately that they have a gun.
I spent my career in law enforcement, much of which was firearms instruction, ERT sniper, and expert witness testimony in firearms related court proceedings. Massad's method and process in such a situation is spot on. Follow his instruction here and you'll have nothing to worry about. Communication between you and the primary officer, as well as between him and the officer trainee (if there is one) is huge. I spent many years not only training basic firearms to recruits, I also had them as ride alongs through my dept. when I was an FTO. They're new and can be a tad jumpy during stops.
unless the officer like many gets a kick out of abuse of power under color of authority like many pigs
There should be absolutely no communication subsequent to the inspection of documents, other than "I am I free to leave?"
Former law enforcement this man’s advice is totally legit. Great channel
and EXPIRED. Current law enforcement is not the same. They have been brought up in the ant gun propaganda for their entire life, and think only they can carry a gun.
Mas. I have followed your teachings for 40 yrs. As a 33yr. police veteran, iam very thankful to you.🇺🇸
Great advice. As Mark Twain once said, “ the trouble with common sense is that its so darn uncommon”.
I mean, not only did you get the quote incorrect, Mark Twain was not the first person to render the sentiment. Not only that but common sense would indicate that Ayoub is an expert in combat tactics, not law and how to legally navigate traffic stops (this does not mean that Ayoub is incorrect, felt I had to say this bc I would be surprised if you understood). So you are an idiot for more than one reason.
The trouble with Samuel Clemens is he was pretty much always right. Also funny which is a bonus.
Now days, that is right.
Love that quote!
This video is spot on.... thank you 👍. I was in law enforcement for 28 years, 26 of those on the streets in uniform. I started out in the uniform patrol division and worked my way up to sergeant and in those years I made hundreds of traffic stops and citizen contacts. Honesty is always the best option. You were absolutely correct to advise that "you won't win an argument on the streets". It was refreshing to have a citizen be upfront and forthright and not go into "I hate the police mode". If someone was honest with me, I would do whatever I could within the boundaries of the law and department policies and cut them a break. In South Carolina you must inform a law enforcement officer that you are a CCP holder....no excuse!
I think you provide the clearest, most unequivocal, and argumented explanations. By just going with my own reasoning and gut instincts I would have thought it was a good idea that, as long as I was respectful and compliant, it was OK for me to also comply with a request to hand over the gun by myself, completely ignoring the fact that the supporting officer may have no idea about what's going on.
Who knows how many lives are saved by you sharing just any single one of these tips, from the many things that can go wrong. Thank you and God bless.
Seriously, the last time I was pulled over, more than twenty years ago, I said to the police officer, "Dude, if this is about that mattress tag, I swear to God, I had NO idea anyone saw me cut that thing off!" He burst out laughing. It was a nice start to what would normally be a tense situation. It was the second time in a week the same cop pulled me over for speeding. It was the second time in a week I was running really late for work. What could've been a license suspension in my state (Pennsylvania) became a good-hearted exchange. He wrote it up as a violation of a traffic sign, so it wouldn't be the same offense. I still had to pay a fine, but it allowed me to keep my driver's license. After that, I began getting up a little earlier for work and we never saw one another again, but it goes to show, a kind word and a little humor can go a long way. I recognize the officer is a man doing a job, same as me, and lightening up a bad situation can be the best way to go - sometimes.😀
The mattress tag is funny.
wait how fast were you going, two speeding tickets are license suspension?
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065 - Back then it was, yeah. My traffic stops were less than a week apart. I haven't been pulled over since then, and that was like in 2001.
@@DamnageDotCom lucky.
That's a great story. I would highly recommend finding (Google) a local traffic attorney/lawyer in your area. They usually charge about the cost of a ticket, saves your insurance, license points, and time going to the courthouse.
For 45 years I have enjoyed reading and listening to Massad Ayoob. Seems to be a very honest, thoughtful and humble man.
45 years and Massad only "seems" honest? lol ... just teasing. It's great to know!
My dad was a cop, he taught me alot of these tips as a kid. Thank you for the additional info. Somehow, I never got a beat down.
I always thought it was pretty simple: Treat the cop like you think they're a human being. If you're not a psychopath that shouldn't be too hard.
I live in Michigan and have a CPL and I have never had the chance to notify a police officer on a traffic stop that I was conceal carrying because the very first question every officer has asked was if I was carrying, I really like the idea of turning on the dome light as soon as I was stopped, my registration and proof of insurance is always on the driver's side sun visor for easy access, my dad taught me that when I was learning to drive.
Oh I like that idea, then you are reaching up instead of for where they think you might be grabbing your gun.
Great advice, I’m a Michigan CPL holder and was taught that my CPL is tied into my drivers license, and to always identify yourself to law enforcement by handing the officer your cpl with your other documentation weather you are actually carrying or not, just like he said here. I’ve followed these rules, as well as being calm and respectful towards the officer and have never had a problem.
My Tacoma has a pocket in the visor, where I keep insurance, registration, and access card for my gun club range. I've been stopped three times (over 10+ years) for moderate speeding, each time I have presented my CC permit with my license. Each time I was asked if I was armed, where the weapon was, then told to leave it. Each time I got off with a warning. Being polite and respectful goes a long way.
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Being Respectful and Polite goes a long way for anybody. Lol. Same has happened to me, However in San Bernardino County. We are Required to contact the Sheriffs office and notify them of any Law Enforcement contact even a simple Warning. Not a problem simple phone call within 24 hrs from contact.
When I walked up to a car on a traffic stop, my mind was never set on giving the violator a ticket. That decision was made based on the first words out of their mouth....😮
In 2000, I was caught speeding while going to work. It was my 14th night of 12-hour graveyards. I had recently moved from CA and was just listening to the engine sound to determine my speed. Well, people drive faster in CA. Once I was stopped, I did everything I was ever taught in driver's ed and from others. I pulled over as soon as safely possible as I was on a country road. I shut off the engine (window already down). I answered the "Why" question honestly and apologized for breaking the law. He said that he had to give me a ticket and I said that I deserved one because I own what I do. He apologized for giving me one because I had been so forthright. We talked for a few minutes, and I thanked him for the "wake up call" because I may have fallen asleep while driving. I met him that weekend at the local diner in town and bought him breakfast. I was 50 years old at the time and I made a new friend over my second ticket in 34 years. I'm 71 now and haven't got a ticket since. Reason: CRUISE CONTROL!
Awesome story!
Wish mine worked. Freikin mechanics costs keep me driving by ear. Sure as hell isnt going to get cheaper with this pig we have in the White House.
I've always said that treating the officer with the same respect you would want for yourself is a great motto to remember and employ. It's really that simple. Everyone gets to enjoy their day. 😊😊
I've read Mr. Ayoob's books and it's given me tons of insight into self defense material.
I just tripped over this channel on accident, researching a gun I want to buy, but here is one of my little experiences:
I was traveling on a 2-lane road behind somebody, that didn't have to go anywhere, a consistent 10m/h below speed limit and I DID have to go somewhere. So, the the moment the road turned into 5 lanes, I blew past him and wouldn't you know it, here came the lights out of a parking lot. I had been 15 m/h over. Ouch. I pulled right into the next parking lot, put the windows down front and back, because, of course, I had 3 handguns and 2 rifles in my back seat. I kept my hands on the wheel and by the time the officer released me with: "keep it civil, ma'am" we were standing in the parking lot looking at my weapons back there. Good times......
I'm 68 years old and I have never been pulled over by law enforcement!!! You have given me a few tips that I never thought of in case I ever am pulled over. Like opening the windows and turning on the inside lights. Thank you for being so damned practical!!!
You're considered lucky then... I've mostly been stopped in 32 years for an errant light out, or for a vehicle infraction such as the numbers on my license plate being too faded to read from a distance. Sure, I've gotten an occasional traffic ticket along the way, nothing serious, but most of the time it was for the above mentions. Chances are, it WILL happen to you sooner or later, but you'll never have anything to fear if it does.. 👌
Wow that's pretty wild. Living in California I get pulled over seemingly every month, one day while traveling through Nebraska I got pulled over twice within 5 minutes! You must live in the middle of nowhere.
@@DiogenesNephew man tell me about it
@@DiogenesNephew is that even legal?
Please tell us where you have lived your life, christiannordstrom - the boondocks, a big city, a tiny town, a foreign country etc - because I would be willing to bet that alone has everything to do with the fact that you have never had to face a cop at your window while travelling in your car.
I appreciate when drivers tell me up front they are carrying. Mostly because we can have a chat about guns and carrying, in general, which makes encounters more enjoyable for both parties.
What you carry as a duty gun
I wish all officers had that attitude. Unfortunately I live in a less free state and I don't think many officers here have that attitude here.
@@daves7903 are you in New Jersey haha?
@@daves7903 I live in Pennsylvania. 1 of the best gun and 2nd ammendment friendly state.
As a concealed carry permit holder I appreciate this comment. You sound like a good cop that upholds your oath. thank you for your service.
Great advice. I wished he would go over his thoughts regarding those who carry without a permit, in constitutional carry states. I've read if it's concealed, it's best to not mention it unless you're being asked out of the vehicle.
I conducted numerous traffic stops during my career as a law enforcement officer. The advice you gave was good advice. I plan on spreading this video to all my friends and relatives. Thanks a bunch.
I'm a beginner, shooting a Sig Sauer P365XL and I have taken several private lessons. My goal is to get my conceal and carry permit because I love taking road trips alone. Thank you for this great Video. Getting stopped while carrying is frightning to me, but after watching this informative and knowledgeable video, I feel like I could handle this situation in a safe and respectful way. Thanks Massad Ayoob!
We can be as respectful as u want. It's the pirates that we need to worry about. Please record every and all encounters with them. All they do is lie so they can't be trusted. Period
@@dmo848be smart and DO NOT ESCALATE. Even if the cop is being a dick, the side of the road is no place to argue. Put your attitude in the trunk and leave it there. Matching bad attitude with bad attitude isn't going to get you what you want. I see videos of recorded encounters between officers and drivers, watch them escalate, watch the driver end up arrested, and often it's because the driver decided to pour on the bad attitude and got himself into a shit load of trouble that could have been avoided. Film if you want, but can the attitude. There's no place for it.
I have not had a ticket since I was 18, and I was a truck driver for almost 20 years. My experience has been that honesty gets you out of a ticket. I actually had an officer fly over a hill and fly right by me because he didn't expect me to be stopped waiting for him. He backed up, asked me why I stopped and I told him "I knew you were coming. I'm late for work and was doing almost 70 in a 55". He laughed, handed me my license back and told me to slow it down. Be honest!
That's exactly what happened to me in Wyoming. He was coming out of Lander up the hill and I was going down. I was doing 70 in a 55. He pulled over and turned I saw it and stopped only difference was I got a 35 dollar ticket (pretty cheap) that I had to send in from Washington. Told him I knew I was wrong
@@rayanderson286 Ha. Same exact thing happened to me near Rawlins, WY. Seems to be a common trend in that area. Only difference is I did not pull over ahead of time. I knew I was doomed though when he flipped a Uturn. $120 ticket.
This guy is as good as it gets.
Really good advice. I have been on both sides of this situation. I'm a former cop who has been stopped by patrol cops when I was off duty and being a black man made the situations trickier. Things can go wrong no matter what you do. Mr. Ayoob had a fantastic seminar before and a great book.
As I am watching, I couldn’t help but think, I wonder what the guidelines are for a black man.
As a former Deputy Marshal and CCW holder, I agree 100% with every word of Massad's advice. The advice to illuminate the interior of the vehicle at night is key. Road noise can hamper communication especially for the officer on the passenger side... and that officer might be a fresh rookie. I know because I was one many years ago.
A former Deputy Marshal? I doubt that considering you would know Marshal is spelled with One L
@@timb2014 dang, got an internet detective here.
@@timb2014 One does not need to be literate to be Police in USA
Big deal. Just because you wore a badge doesn't mean you dictate the law or anyones rights.
Haters will hate
I’ve been stopped twice while carrying, once in Florida and once in Georgia for speeding and non-compliant tint respectively. In both situations, I turned off my car, kept my hands firmly pressed to the steering wheel, and handed the deputy (FL)/officer (GA) my drivers license and CCW simultaneously. I then verbally notified them that “I am currently carrying my EDC at the 4 o’clock position.” I say it exactly like that, and I even practice saying it. They both responded with, that’s perfectly fine, just don’t reach for it. I then follow up with, I do have registration and proof of insurance. They’re in the glove box. I did not want to retrieve anything in your view without notifying you first (they can see you rummaging around in your car, and because they don’t know what you’re doing, they may feel uneasy about it). May I retrieve those documents for you? Both responded saying, no that’s fine; I won’t need them. The deputy let me off with a warning, but the officer asked me to step out of my car. I looked at him, and started verbalizing what I was doing while slowly going through the motions. He said, it’s fine, just exit your car and walk over to the cruiser with me. I picked up the pace but made sure not to move too quickly, and I made sure that my hands were always visible. We had a conversation in front of his dash cam about why I was pulled over, and then he wrote me my ticket and sent me on my way.
Just be forthcoming, respectful, thoughtful, and sincere. You’ll have a positive interaction every time.
Good post. I'd add; turn your radio or stereo off(or low volume). Do not 🚫 eat, use tobacco, vape, drink, get distracted. Speak slowly, clearly. Do not use lingo, profanity, slang.
I like tint myself as my eyes are very sensitive. That being said I like to roll all my windows down so the officer can see inside, and as was said in the video if its night I turn on the interior lights(Similar to in the video, well leave a light on for yah lol).
Be blessed guys.
@@brettblack7049 Rolling the windows down is a good point. What I didn’t mention, for the sake of brevity, is that when the officer approached my car, he yelled from the back of my car to roll down all my windows. I had never been asked to do that before - never even crossed my mind. The problem was that he had stopped me on I-75, and I couldn’t hear him over the traffic noise. I had to ask him to repeat himself like three times. So ya, it’s definitely something I practice now.
@@musicmaker33428 When I was younger I was told that the reason we have the tint laws in michigan was because an officer was shot, after that I always put them down as I figured it made them more comfortable. Unfortunately I wasn't treated very well by them back then, so I understand why many say we need change in this country. Just because you don't look like they think a law abiding citizen should look is no reason to treat people unfairly/unequally :).
@@brettblack7049 100% agree… So, we don’t have tint laws in Florida. Your tint can be as dark as you want. Problem is, Georgia law says your tint can’t be darker than 32% (+/- 5%). I had no idea, and I drive back and forth. But, I found out quick, haha!
I was stopped for speeding on a street where the speed limit drops from 45 to 30. I was doing 52. I informed the officer I was licensed and had a firearm in the vehicle,handed my LTC and driver's license. He mentioned I already knew that when I ran your plates but thanks for informing me. Asked me where the gun was located and said I'll be right back. While I didn't get off with a verbal, he wrote me for going 40 in a 30. Thank you officer. I agree. Respect and a good attitude do go a long way.
These messages are delivered so well. As someone moving to the US I really appreciate the content.
Welcome! Enjoy the freedom we have here, so so so many of us take it for granted or even dislike it. It's sad. Transplants are the group that really seems to appreciate how we do things.
Dangerous freedom > safe tyranny.
Amen!！@@abettermind
As a firearms instructor I tell the people in my classes the exact same thing, I also tell them if they have tinted windows on their car to roll down all of them so the officer can see what or who is in the vehicle as he / she approaches. This will help take off some of the stress on a Traffic Stop. Stay safe and heathy.
Cops don’t need to see I. Tinted windows I just crack a bit to
Here in my state we don’t tell they don’t ask
Constitutional carry
Great TIP. My windows are too dark in my opinion and I always have a gun in my car. Stopped once, ccw expired, told cop my gun was zipped up in a gun purse under my seat and he said don't go for mine and he won't go for his. He did not give me a ticket nor say why he stopped me. He said have a good day and drive carefully. ( I know I was speeding because I always do except school zone and construction zones. Sounds like cops might be giving favorable treatment to ccw holders from comments!
As a resident of Texas, with the semi recent changes to our carry licensing, my biggest concern is running into that one cop that doesnt know you arent required to have a CCW license anymore.
Same with any constitutional carry state. Some just don't know the law, unfortunately.
@@Razor-gx2dqnooooo they just act stupid so they can fish even in Africa they know the law changed Sept 1 2022 constitutional carry they just play stupid. They get brief every morning of any laws that changed they know
Some do not want to know the law and others know the law and violate it anyway (yep, I'm here in TX).@@Razor-gx2dq
Exactly. Georgia is the same way. No permit required.
Texas puts stuff on their computer. They know a lot about you when they run your plate.
Love this guy...so thoughtful and deliberate.....love the fact that he didn't anglicize his name to fit in....his talent and know-how are stellar.....I love people who are proud to be American and respect their heritage at the same time...bravo
In 2013, as a traveling Proj. Mgr for a construction firm, I was stopped (traffic violation) by an OR State Trooper as i crossed from OR back into WA state.I did not know the officer had corossed the border behind me, but I stopped as I should have and turned off the engine, leaving the hazard lights on.. When the officer reached my driver side window, I saw that he was an OR officeer, who had follewed me back into WA. When he asked for my license & reg., I also provided my LTC card under the DL. He informed me why he had stopped me, and asked if I was carrying any weapons. I said yes, and told him about the Tex LTC I had provided to him. He asked where the weapon was, and I told him "in theclosed center console". He looked at at the LTC, noticed that it was for TX, and informed me that it was not recognized in OR, and he didn't know if it was in WA. I didnt know either of these facts (my bad). After some friendly conversation, he handed back the documents, DID NOT write me a ticket for the traffic violation; wished me "safe travels" and said I could leave. I thanked him and continued to my temp residence in WA. I always remeber that traffic stop, and silently ask God to watch over the officer. Being repectful and reasonably compliant that night made all the difference (and maybe also because he was outside his juristiction??) for me.🙄🙄
This is something that needs to be watched by everyone every so often, whether they carry or not. This information needs to be stuck in your head.
Good Call!! Doing so twice a month!
Good advice carrying or not
Great advice
Yes, be reminded, EVERY time you encounter police YOUR life is in DANGER.
@@majicsoap6436 I agree, the polices officers life can also be in danger too when you encounter them.
I've been pulled over twice while carrying. Notified both the officers I had CCW license and was carrying. First time the officer had me get out and relieved me of the gun. He gave me a warning and handed the gun back with the magazine out and chamber empty. Told me to reload it when he drove away. Second time the officer said "just leave it in the holster and we will be good. warning on that one also. Telling them you're carrying is a good policy to avoid winding up with more holes than when you left the house.
I wish our wild ones could watch and concentrate for your 12 minutes of good common sense.
All scenarios that Massad described are Excellent advice!!
Got pulled over for a headlight coming back from the range with 8 guns in the car plus my loaded carry gun on the hip. When I handed over my carry permit with my license, the officer asked if there were any firearms in the car. "Yes, sir, there are nine of them, coming back from a day of shooting with my buddy". He smiled and his eyes lit up. "Oh wow, good for you man!" He didn't disarm me or anything, just went back to his car for a minute and had me on my way.
I don't know whether it's just Central Oregon or most cops are just second amendment enthusiasts, but it was a surprising and pleasant interaction.
Most cops I've met find out your license to carry and aren't carrying they get a little upset. Here in texas any way. I think by and large most officers are constitutional. Happy gun days friend. Stay safe. And keep your ammo dry.
Actually I guess the saying is "keep your powder dry"
Having three retired officers as neighbors and hunting partners, all are adamant about denying citizens 2nd Admendment rights. However all have. CCW permits and carry regularly as do their spouses.
With that said, they're good people and are valued as friends. However this is an issue we're not in agreement.
@@shadowgarr7649 They may be decent people but like most police they believe they are sovereign citizens and think the constitution they swore an oath to protect is a joke.
@@chrispistol6043 Not true
Felt the need to reply . I'm 6'6" 285 Hairy, Heavily tattooed and I ride motorcycles. I believe the peace officers training manual has my photo in the probable cause section. I have had multiple stops I make a point of claiming carry as my state requires I'm clear and curtious to the officer my movements are slow deliberate and completely as instructed. Every interaction I've had with law enforcement has gone well up to this point.
There's a cooking show from the UK called 'Hairy Bikers'. It's a cool show. Two guys ride around on motorcycles and try cooking regional foods. They're quirky and funny. Seems like they ride classic Brit cafe bikes like Triumph, Norton, BSA, etc.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairy_Bikers
@@MeneerHerculePoirot in what may be an even stranger twist of fate one of my bikes is a Triumph Thruxton what some consider one of the original " Cafe Racer's " I'm glad I live in a country where I'm allowed to own and enjoy firearms ( at least for now) but I've also been a fan of the rich motorcycle culture in England for years. Thanks I'll check out the show.
LOLOL, thats awesome, and funny on the photo comment. You sound like a guy in east Texas I know, about the same height and all. A big teddy bear, and awesome heart, just dont piss him off. It wont end well. If your name is Henry, let me know please. Regards.
A great video for everyone who drives a car too...carrying or not. As a retired LEO, this is spot on and provides ideas which I don't think non-LEOs have ever really thought of. You may want to make the officers feel at ease, I don't think many know how to do that unless they've done them. Lights on at night. Roll down rear window, even in rain. Communicate before movement. Control your passengers. Again, just great content. Thank you!
More good advice and i learned a tip, turning on the inside lights at night.
It’s been a long time since I’ve been pulled over, but the last time it happened, I informed the officer I was carrying, he asked me what kind of gun it was, then next thing I know we were sitting there for like 10 minutes talking about guns, places to shoot, and the cheapest ammo stores
Awesome.
As always Mr. Ayoob thank you so much for passing on your years of experience and wisdom, be safe and God Bless.
Everyone should read his books.
Yes! And John Lott's and John Grit's books! About guns laws and freedom.
I've been a CHL holder for 30-ish years. One of my first stops while carrying was right after getting my license. The cop requested me to hand him my firearm, very slowly with two fingers, which I did. He then unloaded it (chamber and magazine), I mean he removed all the rounds from the magazine, and then put the empty magazine and the unloaded rounds into a ziplock bag. AFter the ticket for No FRont license plate on my TransAm, he handed me back the baggie and said, "Do not reload anything until I'm out of sight." I still think that if you're that freaking nervous, you shouldn't be in law enforcement.
That is exactly what I teach my kids. One occasion on family vacation I had the opportunity to demonstrate every one of these recommendations. At the end the off8 thanked me. I guess there is one tiny difference in what I do, I ask for permission before reaching or doing anything.
Really well spoken. I miss only one thing: That despite bad media attention the vast majority of cops are decent people, serving their community and doing their job.
The code of silence and gang mentality makes them all complacent.
@Invictus What is your point? There is more to criminal law than physical harm or property damage! And it is really rare that a truly innocent person completely unprovoked ends up in an unpleasant encounter with police. They happen, but they are REALLY rare!
@Invictus I don't agree. I find your state of mind alarming.
@Invictus
What is a victimless crime for you, that is currently punished unfairly in your opinion?
I generally think that the situation today - enforced with common sense and decency - is quite okay! Not perfect, but it's a compromise of what the general public wants.
@Invictus Again I disagree! No law can be so complete that it covers every nuance of reality. And if you try, it becomes unwieldy. There always is discretion. The world is not black and white!
How would you handle traffic regulations like speed limits, DUIs etc?
The times I have been stopped by a police officer, it's ALWAYS yes sir, no sir, I understand sir. When you initiate the respect, things go really smoothly.
Yeah I do the same thing only they still ask me if there's drugs in the car and call the k9 unit on me after politely refusing to let them search my car. YMMV
Crazy how that works, aye?
Yep and when I come to your house in the middle of the night, I expect the same treatment.
@@jackjack4412 showing up to my house in the middle of the night would be a fatal mistake
@@marinegunny826 what if I wear my uniform and leather boots?
As a police officer I'm generally relieved when I run a plate that comes back to a CCL. Concealed carriers are statistically the most law abiding people in the state. If the registered owner is the driver, it generally says a lot about how the stop will go
CHP stopped me heading to Vegas. I seriously WAS staying within the flow of traffic but should have realized that I was passing big rigs like they were parked! Lights go on, glance at my speed, 87 mph. Rut roh.
"Lic, reg , insurance. Do you know why I stopped you?"
"Because I'm stupid and didn't look at what the flow of traffic speed was? My GPS says I was doing at least 87."
As we chatted, Cal DMV came back, showing law enforcement confidentiality. He laughed, "I knew I could catch you. Nevada has a wall waiting. I'm glad to slow you down. They don't care."
I think the key aspect is making sure the LEO understands that they are in charge of the situation, and you want them to be comfortable/ as possible. There is nothing wrong with giving that to them, they give more than that to us. - my thoughts
He’s the best. Every American should love this guy.
I was stopped, sorta, one day, on my bike! I say sorta because when I saw the lights, I IMMEDIATELY pulled over! I was doing WELL over 100 mph! So I calmy sat down, and said to myself "you're going to jail!" The officer took me back to his vehicle, wrote me a ticket, and gave me a VERY nice talk about safety, etc. I took the ticket and paid it and LIKED IT!! I was flabbergasted when he did not arrest me! Just be civil with them and they will be civil with you! I forget how much the fine was, but it was a lot better than being arrested and spending a night in jail!!
I agrre 100 % with Mr. Ayoob's statements, especially with respecting the officer. My parents many, many years ago taught me to always respect police and firemen. When I was young, stupid, and crazy, I had more than one encounter with police officers, and due to the fact that I showed respect toward them, never had a bad situation. Common sense/ Biblical wisdom, treat people with respect, and the vast majority of the time, that is what you will get in return.
As usual Sir you preach common sense. Unfortunately these days there are a lot of younger people to whom common sense is a superpower.
I often say that common sense has become extremely uncommon.
Being a x LEO and now a licensed carrier, I can tell you first hand, Mr. Ayoob has given rock solid advice here. Well Done Sir!
KnifeMaker
If you were a Law Enforcement officer you do not need a license to carry a Firearm . Under the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act HR218 of 2004 covers all former Law enforcement officers . And all states must honor that law .
@@Shooter308 You have no idea what you’re talking about. That’s 100% untrue in some jurisdictions. As a New York City police officer you can carry for 20 years on the job and the day you retire, you are no longer licensed to carry in New York City. In fact, to resume carrying privileges you have to go through the exact same process every other citizen would have to go through, and in New York City almost nobody gets a carry permit.
@@deebee4575 First off you just might want to show some respect . Especially when your the one who is wrong . Qualified retired law enforcement officers can carry under HR218 in any jurisdiction in the United States regardless of state or local laws .
@@Shooter308 That is 100% false. Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Talk to any retired NYPD officer. And that’s just one example.
HR218 does NOT supersede local or state law.
@@deebee4575 it actually above state and local laws . Its a Federal Law . If you were in Law Enforcement you would know .
I've come across people in my state (Commiefornia) who have told me, "I am a CCW holder, but don't have my gun with me." I responded, "Why not? You have the legal right to carry concealed,you should always carry. What happens when you need it and don't have it?" I usually get a stunned look and a smile. By yes, please tell us you have a CCW. It's just a courtesy and not the law in CA, but no one likes surprises. Thank you Mas!!
Don't admit to doing anything if a cop asks you if you know why you've been pulled over. A simple "no sir/ma'am" works fine.
Massad, back around the year 2000, I found myself traveling a lot at night through Kansas Oklahoma Texas and New Mexico. When I got pulled over at night the first thing after stopping I did was put my four ways on and turn on the interior lights then put my hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. Once, a cop pulled me over because my license plate lighting wasn't on. It was winter in Kansas and he didn't want to stand out in the cold so he asked me to sit in his cruiser while he checked me and my car out. Very nice guy and we exchanged a few words about family and kids. Much respect to you for serving as a law enforcement officer.
i doubt they allow that anymore because of all the recent incidents where somebody steals the cop car after being sat in the front seat
I live in New Jersey. If you are not retired law enforcement, you never need to worry about getting a carry permit. But in a traffic stop, the officer doesn't know if I'm a good guy or a bad guy with a gun. However, all the advice you give is still very prudent. Don't do anything to make the officer ill at ease. For 5 years I was a medical courier that only worked emergencies. From time to time I would be running (really) fast and get pulled over. As you said, dome light on, engine off, driver AND passenger window down. Both hands on steering wheel. When the officer asked for usual ID, I would tell him where it was before moving my hands. I also had a small stuffed cow on the passenger seat. When the officer asked if I knew why he stopped me I would point at the cow and reply: "Yes, I was speeding, but it is all his fault. He was supposed to be watching out for you." Never did the cop not crack up. Then I would tell him why I was speeding:" Children's Hospital needs the blood in back a hour ago." OR: "The bone marrow in the cooled doesn't have a shelf life." I never got a ticket in 300,000 miles. I am convinced the little stuffed cow was the reason. It immediately put the office at ease. Once I was advised to get the cow a booster seat so he could see better. All is well that ends well.
I’m gonna start carrying a cooler of blood and bone marrow in my car at all times, certainly that won’t be suspicious.
Niiccceee 😂👍🏽
As far as NJ….EXCEPT until now. Now I’m the proud new owner of a CCP
Thanks, Massad for the great briefing. Your level of detail is a refreshing change of pace on TH-cam.
Love the information you're giving everyone , but also another step I have found very helpful in any traffic stop to be on the safe side is once you stop besides rolling the window down and interior light on is to lay both hands not griping the steering wheel but with wrist laying on top and wait for any requests and inform the officer that a gun is in the vehicle before removing your hands from the steering wheel ...
Great advice, as always! Last time I was stopped, which ain't often, I was in my four-door GMC truck, which has rather dark windows in the back side windows and back glass from the factory. It was dark, so I did like Massad suggests, and put my truck in park and turned it off, put on the interior light but I buzzed down the front AND back glass, so as the cop was walking up, he can clearly see there's nothing in the back seat. Well, sure enough, the cop came up to tell me my tag light was out, and I told him, politely, that I was legally armed. In Arkansas, it's the law, but it's just good manners anyway to notify. The cop wasn't a rookie and wasn't fazed at all. Around here, a lot of people carry. He just told me to fix the light and have a good night. I like to be friendly, and I think it goes a long way with interactions with cops, or anyone else, for that matter. I'm friendly until ... well. ;)
i heard that ole boy, im the friendliest mfer you ever knew until you cross that line...lol
I have found that keep your hands on the wheel. And be respectful and ask how would you like to proceed? But this is in Arizona. And most cops have thanked me and been very nice. Being nice and showing respect. Go’s a long way !
I got pulled over for there first time in years a few months ago.
I followed your advice and of went smooth.
The California Highway Patrol officer was totally cool and he let me go with a warning.
“Put yourself in the officers shoes”. Best advice.
Several years ago my buddy and I were doing 100mph on I-10 in Katy TX west bound. We had been traveling all week for work and it was Friday night at 11:45pm. I was driving and just wanted to get home and see my wife. My buddy was living with us waiting for his home to close. We were in the HOV lane. Traffic that night was HUMMING along.
Blue lights. I instantly stopped. Shut off the engine. Engaged my flashers. Opened all windows. Turned on all lights. No radio. Told my buddy to put hands on dash and stay quiet.
Cop approached with a brilliant flashlight and he checked out the bed of the truck, the back seat and then us.
His first comment was “looks like you fellas practiced”. I couldn’t help but smirk at that. That was pretty funny. I looked right at him and said “officer we have one more exit and we’ve been traveling for work all week and I just want to see my pretty wife. I think I was doing about 100. We got ready for you to come up to us like this because you have the most dangerous job there is and we respect you. Please tell me what you want me to do next”.
He just stared at me for a second like he couldn’t believe someone was actually being nice to him. He said “your plates came back ok. You have any weapons or explosives or hand grenades in the truck?” I said “yes sir we both have concealed carry permits but when you turned on your blue lights we dropped the magazines and racked the slides. We threw the mags in the back seat by our luggage and the slides are locked back and guns are in the center console”.
He shined his light on the mags by the suitcases on back seat and said “ok good job. I need to see your drivers license.” I informed him it was in my hip pocket and I’d have to reach for it. He put his light right down by my hip pocket and he had his gun hand on his holstered gun. I gave him my license and concealed carry permit. He immediately handed the permit back to me after he saw what it was. I put it and the wallet up on the dash and held the wheel at 3 and 9.
He got on his radio and said something in code numbers to dispatch.
He then hands me back the drivers license and says “you boys have a good evening and quit going so fast on my highway”.
He walked back to his patrol car and zoomed off.
We were sitting there looking at each other and my buddy says “what if we were black?”
That caused us to seriously talk about that “what if” over the course of the next week. We engaged a black friend (engineer) we worked with and told him the whole story. He said “even if I had a suit and tie on I’d be detained in cuffs on the side of that road”. Another black friend joined in though and said “maybe not - especially if you were as respectful as they say they were to the cop. But a lot of times cops are prewired to be more cautious around us brothers and it might be because historically and statistically they get more heartache in stops with us. We are our own worst enemy. We create a flinch mode in the cops.” Damn!!!
Things that make you go hmmmm.
Mas, I’m not trying to bait you here into this whole thing. I really would like to hear your take on this from the perspective of REAL POLICE. Could you maybe do a fact based analysis of this and perhaps publish a TH-cam on it? I know that it is perhaps incendiary and I understand if you would rather not.
I believe respect with the cops gets good results no matter your race. But I can certainly see how that flinch response may have been ingrained in cops.
Last thing I’m gonna say here is cops DESERVE respect. They are the Thin Blue Line keeping our society from becoming a banana republic.
Wow! This is the first video I've seen of Wilson Combat, and I believe literally EVERYONE should take this man's advice. Wow..
Welcome aboard! Massad is a National Treasure. Amazing man, with a lot of amazing advice.
100%agreed
Read his books too!
Mr. Ayoob, excellent instructional advice. I'm a former Texas Peace Officer and I totally love the step by step advice you gave. Great video. Thank you Sir for your service as a former police officer.
This video is packed with valueable infos even for non-carriers. Thanks, Massad. Next time i get pulled over at night, i'll illuminate the interior of the car.
Great video! Thank you. Here in Utah your CC permit definitely pulls up when they run your registration, so it makes sense to just hand them both licenses right away. Turning on the dome light was a great tip!
During a traffic stop a couple years ago in Wisconsin, I handed my permit along with my license. After running my license, he returned and with a rather suspicious tone, asked me why I handed my permit. I said it had been recommended by an MP friend I knew. That satisfied him, and we spent several minutes chatting about different weapons and types of training. It was pleasant, and I got a verbal warning for my excess speed.
Same experience here in WI.
Thats cool, yes it can bring up very interesting conversations. Ive heard of quite a few from another friend of mine who is LTC also, he helped me get mine here in Texas.
Would you consider an update video with the new "Constitutional Carry" that a lot of states are passing into law? I feel this covers it fairly well, just wondering if it's worth looking at?
I was thinking the same exact thing
I love how you think carrying a gun will save your life. Does it increase the chances, yes. But not really.
@@omegamale5392 Do or don't, I'll take my chances with one. Might work out might not. Just a force equalizer.
@@Ifnotfriendwhyfriendshaped no law against being a panzee snowflake little coward, I guess.
@bowtech8904 I was thinking the same thing. I was also looking for some content on what to do after an armed confrontation in the home.
I bought my first gun today I am researching everything I can watching this video helped me to understand how to conduct myself during a traffic stop and has made me feel more confident about carrying my new firearm! Complying with officers has and respecting their authority has always been a very big practice for me but never have owning a gun before now helps me understand how I can make their jobs easier and safer and my family and friends safe when they are with me if ever I’m in another traffic stop thanks for the video you really gave me great insight thankful for the advice will be sure to practice it if ever stopped in the future! God Bless
Man I’m learning so much about American laws etc before moving to America, this guy is amazing to watch
learn your state laws too.
@@Razor-gx2dq any recommendations for Texas law since that’s where I’m moving, I found a book with 4000+ pages of Texas law but it’s like 300 bucks lol
I've always followed the basics- Dad taught me well- but after 30 years of driving I did hear some perspective in this video presented a bit differently and that made perfect sense. MA is an expert in my opinion, been casually following him since the early 90's I guess. EVERY encounter I've had with a police officer while I was armed and he was notified was surprisingly extremely positive. I look at it like they've got enough real sh*t to put up with, let me make it as stress free as possible for them.
This is exactly why I pay so much attention to Massad too. I often feel like I have "a good bead" on something, but then Massad will kindly hit me over the head with something simple and obvious that I hadn't realized before.
That's the attitude I'm trying to instill into my kids: Cops are just human beings trying to do a difficult job. The easier you can make it for them the more likely it is that they'll treat you well.
Ohio is now a, "constitutional carry," state. You don't even _need_ a CCW. My bet is that every cop in the state has been told, "You have no idea whether or not the person you pulled over for a routine stop has a gun on them and you'd better act like you think they do or you might get shot [and then the city/county/state will get sued for you death and our insurance rates will go up and that is all we _really_ give a damn about. Did you think we cared about the life of another peasant?]" I kinda wonder if that is the point of OH being a, "constitutional carry" state. "Well, if we can get a lot of police shootings because we're training rookies to be terrified of ordinary peasants maybe we can have a reason to disarm all of the peasants!"
Never underestimate the criminality of politicians.
Edit: Typo. Try to find them. There were two that I caught. Feel free to grammar-Nazi me. I'll just enjoy it. LOL
I learned a valuable lesson when I was a young buck. My first ride was an old rusted chevy pickup. I went to the court house and had it licensed with new plates. I did not have a screwdriver at the time to put them on so I shoved it under the passenger seat for later. Months later I was pulled over and cop said I was driving on expired plates. It snapped in my brain about the plates. I said "oh ya I got them " and bent over and fished the plates from under the passenger seat. When I sat up with the plates in hand I was looking down the barrel of a 45. The cop said I had no idea how close I came and proceeded to lecture me that when stop never make a move til asked. I was shaken up and that changed my life forever. The cop was more shaken up than I was because he knew how close he came to ending a young man's life over a traffic stop. We both sweat bullets that day.
Cops are just bottom feeders that are waiting for a chance to pull the trigger because they know they'll get away with it
Don't be a dumbfuck dipshit
Sounds like he shouldnt have been a cop. Ive had plenty experiences where i was diggin for stuff and they get tired of waiting so they do their check in the car and fill out their paper work and by the time i find my stuff, they on their way back to my car. Making them wait is probably why i never got away with a warning tho
@@B00TYclapperCLUB69 cops get killed letting people dig for stuff.
a very refreshing balance of "dont talk to cops" but also "treat everyone with respect, especially authority"
in both cases, you're doing what's safest for you and your family, and being a decent person.
I live in Commifornia, and immediately notifying the police that I’ve got a permit to carry has gotten me out of tickets twice!
Not sure if that’s common but it’s led to a friendly discussion about our common appreciation of firearms, and they were impressed with my gun! 😎