AIMING IS USELESS! 3 Secrets To Great Shooting | Rob Leatham 6x IPSC World Champion!
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- When it comes to shooting, few are at Rob Leatham's calibre so when he's got something to say about shooting, we should pay attention.
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how can you hold the gun tight? if you hold the gun tight, you will move the gun. Mantis X system agrees. I shoot 95 points on mantis X and I don't hold the gun with a super tight hold. thx. Isn't tight going to move the gun? I hold the gun and let the recoil do its thing. thx. I don't think u should hold it very tight. I am going to start practicing with a glcok 27 .40.
it takes time to aim and sometimes you dont have that..
Yi-Tzai: You can hold the gun tight, Funker Tactical probably shows how to do that in one of his videos. In this video he is talking about tactical shooting, not target [bulls eye] shooting. I used to shoot competition and know exactly what you both are talking about.
I have been struggling for the longest time since buying a gun on how to hit my target. Every video or instruction I reviewed always focused on aim. I was at a point where I was almost about to sell my gun because I just couldn't succeed in aiming. I tried what you said and realized watching my gun after doing a few dry pulls how much I was moving the gun when pulling the trigger. I spent the next few minutes steadying my hand on the pull then loaded the gun, held firm, pulled AND HIT DEAD ON TARGET! I ended up hitting 27 out of 28 shots. Thanks so much!!! I'm now more confident about my abilities and not so afraid of hitting an unintended target.
Robert, I train LE and the military.
Here's a drill to see how stable your weapon is on firing:
1. load 1 round and remove the magazine.
2. Point in and fire 1 round.
3. reset the trigger as fast as possible and "fire" the 2nd (non-existant round)
9 out of 10 times even KNOWING there is no "2nd round" the muzzle will drop because you expect the recoil of the gun with the 2nd round.
Practice until the muzzle remains level.
Stay safe.
No one is here forever.
Try this as well have someone video you shooting from the side then review the video and see what you did right or wrong
@@JBliehall nice exercise idea, going to try it this weekend
@@JBliehall That's a great drill, even if you think or know you've solved that problem with shooting. That's the type of drill you go back to to reinforce technique. Awesome suggestion.
Cops & Robbers or whatever man. Way simpler than this. Use your middle finger to pull the trigger. Point your index finger under the slide and point your finger at whatever you want dead. It’s literally that simple. No system no fancy way of shooting just like when you were a kid. Except now your finger is loaded and the bang is a lot louder.
Man, I bet some of the other TH-cam shooter guys hate you. I have been shooting since I was 7 years old. About the only thing my Dad said to me was "Hold the damn gun still", and "You're not gripping the gun tight enough".
He also explained to me that it didn't matter how you pulled the trigger, as long as you didn't move the gun around when you did. That was 53 years ago, and I've always had fun shooting and either pissed off or impressed my friends. Also, my Dad wasn't in the military, rather he was a poor sustenance hunter raised during the great depression.
Great video!! Thanks!
People generally love this video or hate it. Depending on their experiences.
The most reknowned snipers have been squirrel or rabbit hunters. Thank you for sharing your story, it was interesting.
@@FunkerTactical I like Rob's style, "to the point"! Shouldn't take 40 minutes of bs-ing to get a point across.
About time someone tells it like it is. Been seeing all these posts about how to align sights and such. Am a Vietnam Vet and I couldn't think of the word instinctively, so I just said point and shoot when your life is on the line.
This is unbelievable! I just started shooting & wasn’t hitting & was nervous as heck, I applied what this instructor said about 4 days after I started shooting & now I’m not that nervous & hitting target a lot more. If you read comments thank you very much.
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Yeah I’m shooting a lot better now since this comment. I also learned for targeting now, aim your pistol at target with your dominant eye & close the non dominant eye using the individual sight (not sure what it’s called towards the end of the pistol) then open non dominant eye and make sure the target is In between the sights (the sights closest to you) then grab gun with a tight grip & just shoot. I’m landing on target. I was so nervous the first time lol now I’m not. Good luck with training. GOD BLESS!
I just want to say i found it funny that you referred to him as just an instructor. I'm not disrespecting you, it's just funny hearing Rob referred to as an instructor rather than one of the best pistol shooters to ever do it. Best of luck and keep on shooting! Glad to hear you've made big improvements, Rob has a lot of great, simple videos out there.
@@IamShrimple It's like saying Instructor Zero was "just a soldier".
@@StudentofYHWH It's just called the front sight.
It’s cool, my friend who talks a lot of crap was shaking the first time he shot his gun lol
I taught combat marksmanship in the US Army. It’s nice to hear a professional say the same things I taught my students.
@@AlphaOmegaSigma07 If someone is willing to go to the expense of buying a firearm, they should learn everything they can about marksmanship. There is no speed vs accuracy. There is speed and accuracy. Too many think they have to give up one for the other.
@@AlphaOmegaSigma07 Enter a competition with your sights taped up.
@@shooterqqqq Only gun nerds cares about "competition". Guns are about defense and survival for most buying and/or using them.
@@ninjastriker6761 Competition is measuring how well you can' shoot. No one spends time and money in shooting and then never looks at their target without measuring hits and trying to improve. No one.
When I teach people handgun, I start with feeling the gun, feeling the trigger, stance, and breathing. Aiming I told them is the least important.
At our military training in Finnland before we went to the shooting range we trained quite a lot our empty shot skills. Basicly the instructor put 5-cent coin on the top of our gun barrels (RK-62) and we had to be able to shoot so that the coin did not drop. I allways thought that was obvious, but now I really appreciate the training we got!
That's a really good training tip. Thank you!
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That's the way we used to do it when I went to the US Infantry School in 1980. We used a dime. Our Drill Sergeant also had us practicing focusing on our finger.
Our platoon had more experts than the rest of the company combined. ;-)
We still do it in the U.S. Army but my DS had us do it in the barracks while prone for hours.
11 Bravo school 1979. We also used a dime, or got hit on the back of our steel pots with a clearing rod. Haha! Good times ;)
1. Hold the gun really tight
2. Point the gun at the target
3. Pull the trigger without moving
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No. 2 means "aim"
@@reploid001 lol smart assery over 9000. I love it though
4. Fill your target with lead
@@reploid001 no it means point the gun, the act of aiming is ensuring as much as you can that you will hit what you shoot at. If I point the gun and close my eyes i'm not aiming
I told this to my sister in law, she never fired a fire arm. Target was at 5 yard and we followed your technique. Man I wish if I had a picture of the target, in A zone all 100 bullets and amazing group. She was laughing like she couldn’t believe she shot this good. Thank you sir and god bless.
That was the most logical, concise and brilliantly articulated summation of shooting ive ever heard! He left nothing out, and even said shooting is simple, its just not easy. Brilliant!!! No hesitations, no uhs and ums, no stammering! Confident , logical and rational. Its no wonder this gentleman is a champion!
This should be a required block of instruction and commited to memory by every shooter!
In five minutes I learned more than I have in years of shooting by myself
Check out Jerry Miculek "How to shoot a Pistol with world champion shooter, Jerry Miculek" You will expand your horizon and tighten your group all at the same time. Trust me.
if you learned alot in 5 min then you had absolutely no idea what you were doing for years...
2Cats It could also depend upon a person perhaps following bad habits without knowing it...such as thinking the Weaver stance is ideal for rapid strings...it's not.
it could....but then why reply with a positive or decent comment when you can take the opportunity to put someone down behind the anonymity of the internet.
Shane K lmao right
Thank you! This is what I learned at age 7, and was a deadly shot for 10 years. Then someone taught me how to shoot, and my accuracy went downhill. Now, 50 years later, I’ve come full circle, and 90% of my practice is dry firing. I trained my sons by handing them a handgun and not telling them whether it was loaded or not. Nothing like flinching on an empty chamber to demonstrate the importance of trigger control
100percent agree. I still load empty cylinders on my revolvers just to check myself. This I believ is a great training aid.
Some of us used to have another person load the mag and put one or two dummy rounds in with the real ones before we practiced other shooting drills (Army). That way you see if you're trying to compensate the recoil (dummy flinch) and you also practice clearing a FTF.
@@Jason.B. Flinching is not necessarily a bad thing, its just if you do it out of timing you will miss a lot, if the timing is right its a great recoil control trick
"Danielson, Karate, not Here. Karate Here." karate kid hehe
That's spot on man. I'm teaching my son the same principle of not flinching and what it could do to your shots.
gotta love logic from a pro shooter. hold the gun tight....pull the trigger without moving the gun. makes sense to me.
I remember that episode of Sesame Street! It was my favorite except for the one where the girl takes her pet llama to the dentist! "Me and my llama, me and my llama..."
what does sesame street have to do with this?
Sad thing is that he fails to explain HOW to do it. Like why he isn't pressing his thumbs firmly against the grip...
Henrik Paulsen he isn't teaching a class. He gave you some valuable information in a short video. You want training then go to his school and pay for it.
So standing still upright with your arms locked and tunnel visioned is the best way to avoid being a target. Such genius..
Former Marine 0331 1/9. This is shit that will keep you alive. This technique helps you be an asset not a liability. Good class bro
"Bro?"
@@davidrichter9164 bro
I was a Navy Corpsman assigned to the Marines in 1970. I was a shooter, long guns, before I was introduced to the .45 cal 1911. I hated that pistol! LOL, but our instructor ( a Marine) looked at me like I was something I shouldn't be. When we got to the range with the M--16's, he kicked me in my boot and told me to quit showing off! Later in my career I had the distinct honor of shooting alongside some of the Marines finest pistol and rifle marksmen at Quantico. I learned so much!
bullshit!
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Actually, I figured EXACTLY this for myself. I wasn't happy with my shooting, and so I thought DEEPLY about what was really necessary. Then I thought I was CRAZY, because it seemed the opposite of everything I had ever heard about shooting. I'm SO GLAD to hear somebody say this stuff, and verify for me that I'm not nuts for looking at things this way!
you made more sense in 5 minuets than i have heard in 40 years of shooting and you know what ? your absolutely right
Another thing to factor in is when your target is shooting back. My first day on river boats in Vietnam the boat captain told me that it was common to shit your pants when taking incoming fire. He said don't worry it happens to a lot of us; just keep on firing back. A combat "glory" story.
You know, I wonder how we got from that to where we are right now all in 50 years.
Somewhere along the line, someone fucked up real good... :J
Easy there RAMBO nobody was talking about combat shooting, thats yet again a whole different type of shooting. This is target shooting
Sounds like bullshit
A common response while preparing to fight for a lot of animals.
Thanks for your service but 90% of targets aren’t shooting back. I don’t care where you get your news.
Rob, So glad I found your video. It is filled with common sense. I am a new gun owner. I have been around guns a little over the course of my 61 yrs. This is a drill I came up with for myself based on what I hear to be the most common and expected factors in an altercation. Since most altercations are close up, happen fast, the other person might be armed and shooting back, this is what I mix into my training. I draw my gun, but I do not aim, I point it at a target I made that is the average size of a beltline to shoulder height and an average width of a man's torso. Again, I do not aim, I point the gun and get as many rounds into the torso as fast as possible. I do this at 15', 21', 30', 40', and 50'. I do this at each distance until I can put 90 percent of my shots into the torso and then 80 percent of the 90 percent in a fairly tight group. I do not proceed to the other distances until I can achieve this (other than just shooting at those other distances to see where I might be at). I do this because I perceive that the likelihood of me ever having to pull my weapon is infinitely small, and having to do it twice in my life is even smaller, if it does happen it is more than likely to be fast and chaotic. I want to take one more thing to think about or do out of the equation and that is aiming at close distance. Do I also train to aim too? Of course I do. But this "training" I came up with makes sense to me. It makes me feel confident that I am ready for fast unexpected chaos. I have gotten pretty good at it so far. As a new gun owner, I'd like to know what you experienced people think. I am just trying to be prepared as best I can for myself and my family. Thanks, If you disagree, pls don't be a butthole, I'm here to learn.
I guess in these scenarious of protecting your family you gotta be doing some multitasking in commanding them to evac along with your defense strategy of returning fire. Do not go over problematic areas, isolated or full of narcotics. In long journeys go prepared and take food, water, reserve parts and go with at least one good friend. In close quarters, depending of a weapon you use you will take action. It is not probable someone will shoot you with sniper or carbine... In cqb there is a lot of movement thus beware for your target might get around you and shoot you down so - Learn to shoot while running around fast and jerk your head around too sight in any possible threats, if you are pinned learn to fire back over cover without poping your head out of cover..
Great advice, thanks.
@@Garrus_Vakarian_N7
Rob, thank you. I had a Drill Sgt tell me, way back when we charged on the backs of dinosaurs, that long distance precision shooting and combat shooting were NOT the same. Sure hit a nickle size target at 300 yards is impressive. Try that when it's shooting back. Hitting an area to drop the bad guy and take him out of the fight is a better plan. Just my two cents. Oops! Forgot about the coin shortage, I'll need those back.
The military now sights their M-4's in at 50 yards. Why they ever used 25 yards I will never know. But 50 yards has a MPBR (Maximum Point Blank Range) of 0 to 240 yards. That is, no matter the distance you engage, the round will hit within a 5" circle. + 2.5 " at close distances (the offset between the bore and the center line of any optics) and - 2.5" at further distances (bullet drop).
It relates to the kill zone on a human body as you might expect.
@Don Baumann True.
Exactly, and in a self defense situation there's no time to aim and aim and aim and aim.
@@JBliehall Good point. That all has to do with the ballistic data of the round you're firing. A 5.56 is a lighter, faster, flatter trajectory than a 7.62 was. There were many reasons the Army converted to that cartridge from the M14.
Wow! This is a great breakdown of proper technique. Also, a great quote to remember at the range..."Shooting is simple, but not easy." Much appreciated. Thanks, Rob.
Wow, I worked for Wells Fargo Armored for over 12 years. We had to qualify at the range every 6 months. Being able to shoot , right and left handed with some accuracy. We were told that most of the time our contact with robbers would be within 15 feet. So hold your revolver firmly with both or one hand. So, yes you are right that holding steady is more important than aiming when seconds count.
@Kev Campbell kinda depends on how long ago it was. I assume at the time that Luther was an armed guard, revolvers were the standard. I know they were when I was a guard. But then again I'm old and long since retired. Just sayin'.
Great instruction. Fortunately my Father who was career military and a southern boy, who grew up experimenting with technique shooting Water Moccasins of fence posts after the Mississippi's annual floods, with an H&R .22 special wheel gun, taught me the very same thing. He also taught me that Target shooting is a Rich Mans sport, even more so know and that all the target instruction in world means nothing if your in Combat and/or dangerous situations needing immediate engagement. I confess, I'm not a timed fire guy, never have been, never wanted to be. The weapon feels like an extension of my hand. Guys I know marvel over how I can dump 8 rounds in 3 seconds into a 3.5" area at 30ft, with my 1911, You don't have time to do that and aim too! Have a hard time doing that with timed fire, as my sporting club does with our annual shoot. with target at 7, 15 and 25 yards, usually good to the 15, at 25 I just point and pull and do better than any of the others at the rapid fire, but crappy at timed. My dad always said, "you don't aim a handgun, you point and shoot, you aim a rifle, if you have the luxury of time, otherwise it's the very same principle." I experienced that very thing in my military service, when there are multiple moving and stationary target trying to make their way to you, you just don't have the luxury of time!
Oscar points out the critical element in combat and in all decision-making: "How much time do I have?" I shot WAY over expert with the .45 in the Marine Corps (1967). And I had to shoot at two running targets at night in a street fight back home in the States. I got one, and the other dove into the bushes. I had developed good trigger pull, so even under intense pressure, my shots were pretty good. I hit one out of the three shots. One target was to my front, and the other was 90 degrees to my right. Missed Target 1. Missed Target 2. Hit Target 1. Total time for three shots: less than 1 second.
When seconds count, only microseconds are available.
Rob is right -- you can't aim.
Yes guys. I see how tough and keen you are, military expertise. But taking it on the light side.. at home we got a time for everyone and everything❤
Thank God, another instructor I can add to my list that knows what they are doing
I mean, he's the most accomplished professional shooter of all time, so he's pretty good to listen to.
timothy svec That's right, he didn't reply because things don't get prettier after this... no, they don't because if you thought that's all I had on those ameteur shooters and valor theives... you'd be wrong.
Your new name is candy bra.
professional shooter? you have never seen live fire exercises of tier I SMUs firing real firearms. Gindee him a VSS Vintorez and he could not hit a cow
This video wasn't about shooting livestock !!!! mike
When I was in the army that's the main thing they taught us. We learned to fire the M16 first, dry firing from a prone position. The drill instructor had us balance a penny on the flash suppressor of the weapon. The goal was to be able to pull the trigger and hear the firing pin click without the penny falling off. I can't remember how we did it with the .45, but I suspect that by the time we got to the .45, we had the concept down from our experience training with the M16. When all was said and done, I was Lee Harvey Oswald with the M16, just barely hitting enough targets to qualify as a marksman. Strangely enough, when it came to the .45, I hit 50 out of 50 and qualified as an expert. In any case, that exercise taught me how to fire a weapon.
Yep, we used to do that too. Balance a coin on the barrel, dry shoot.
I was the stellar opposite. Full expert even grenade. I grew up a ridge runner. Then MP School was tough. Old 45 all over. I asked the DI “ I know but could it be the gun”? He took it and said let’s see. Full mag into a tree bark never stopped flying fast as he could pull the trigger. I said something like that makes me feel dumb. He said not at all. He. Said he shot 500 rds / week and that a 45 was not an easy gun to shoot well. All my issue guns were beautiful parkerized old models like new, tight. At 50 yards prone mud still flew🥵
I dry fire like this at home..i use either 9mm or 45acp brass and will place it on the front sight and just squeeze the trigger and watch tv. If i can do it without it falling off 10.times in a row i move on to something else. It's just a warm up for trigger discipline
Lee Harvey Oswald didn't even fire a rifle the day Kennedy was shot. The Mossad probably did it and the CIA covered it up. Oswald was a patsy. The Mafia was setup as a possible back up patsy, if needed.
@@libertypastor1307 I don't know about the Mossad, but I agree with you on Oswald. Chances are, he didn't fire a shot. He was set up to take the fall.
Here's a little trick I like to use... After talking to someone about trigger control and not anticipating the recoil, I'll tell them we're going to do some live fire. I will then load the weapon putting a snap cap in place of the live round without them knowing it, and tell them to fire a round. This demonstrates exactly how much they anticipate the recoil and move the weapon.
This method works best when using a revolver. I will randomly load live rounds and snap caps and have the person practice, never knowing if the gun will actually fire or not.
For many people the improvement in their accuracy is immediate and sometimes quite substantial.
Also, this is one of those methods you can use on yourself. Take a couple of live rounds, randomly drop them in the cylinder w/o looking, give it a spin and flip it closed.
Next time you're out shooting try it, you might be surprised.
I did this with one of my former military buddies. He just bought a brand new .45 colt revolver, beautiful piece. We went to the range and he couldn't hit the target at thirty feet or so and blamed the gun, saying "the sights are off" and I replied with the comment of "you're dropping the nose man." He didn't believe me so when he went to the restroom, I took my pocket knife and popped out the used primer from a spent round of his and loaded his gun for him, putting the spent round in the third revolver slot and put it back. Should have seen the look on his face when you saw the nose of the revolver drop down three inches when he shot, it was great.
lol when you said this method works best using a revolver i was like he's kidding, but yeah no shit a revolver is going to make people think right away that there's going to be a nice recoil haha
I used to do it when was possible for a civilian to have fun with a gun in my country. Yeah. This is the most best kept gun secret.That's why accidental shots are deadly, if you are not aware about the gun condition you have no fear to make you push or pull the gun trying to escape from the kick. But... for people who disagree: be happy and have fun wasting ammo.
I have read this recommendation many times but have a question. So I go to the range and randomly load snap caps in the pistol (revolver or semiautomatic) and I shoot. When i get to the snap cap and pull the trigger, do I need to have someone observe and tell me the nose dropped. If the nose did drop, what do I do as practice to overcome the nose drop?
There is no need for an observer. You know when the gun moves from fear or lack of trigger technique. When I started I could feel my heart beating faster at each click.
Completely changed my shooting forever!
No one has ever said to me when you pull the trigger and make sure you don't move the gun. Amazing results and a simple solution. Thank you Ron Leatham!!!
Really? Must have taken a lot of lazy instructor classes. I always teach when pulling the trigger, imagine you are squeezing a super glue bottle to get that 1 drop out. Nice easy and steady. Go crazy with it and it goes all over the place.
@@kctippensusmc well you would be amazed at how many people don't know the simple truth about pulling the trigger without moving the gun to stay on target. It's amazing when you keep that in mind.
That should be common F'ing sense to NOT move the gun when you pull the damn trigger ...
The worst happens when you aim too long for rifle gets heavy and shooter gets impatient. Sway of the barrel + pain in shoulders + impatience + no breath and heavy lungs + heart rate gets higher for trying to stop breathing + sweaty and slippery arms due prolong holding + thinking too much and hesitating + eyes are loosing focus on sights, specially iron sights and getting to hurt cuz of too much infalling light + legs are getting stiffer and you really need to move to flex stiffnes in knees
About two years ago, I spent the winter practicing exactly this in my bedroom, and I quickly went from a mediocre pistol shooter to an above average one. Learning how to properly pull the trigger without moving the gun is so important.
I came on this site thinking what BS is this and I gotta say after 12 years in the military he hit the nail on the head for shooting with a pistol.
Bull, too many read the Tagline and go off about how they know more about shooting than Leatham. Glad you took the time to see the video.
I use his technique in my handgun class for law enforcement and the military.
Stay safe and happy.
James
Bull The Rokk ‘for pistol’
You may have some tips for me and my 10/20 ruger..
I use Winchester PowerPoint and subsonic..
They seem to be most consistent..
THANKS for this lesson. I've been teaching concealed carry for a few years. The brevity of your lesson is what I've been trying to say for a couple years. We will begin viewing this video in classes because I can't say it any better. I appreciate your expertise!
Best regards!!
Where do you teach concealed carry, if you dont mind me asking
Rob is a pity that you don't make additional videos explaining in detail how do you grip the gun, how do you shoot fast, how do you shoot for precision. Rob there are so many people doing videos that don't know 1/10 of what you know. Help us to learn things the right way. I can see that you have studied in depth the different ways of doing things. Please do the videos that I ask for and thank you for helping us...the ones that want to REALLY LEARN THE RIGHT WAY!!!
this makes a ton of sense especially in a self defense situation, never heard of someone looking for picture sight to defend themselves especially when most encounters tend to happen at close range.
Absolutely. Self defense needs to happen due to confrontations - confrontations don’t happen from 25 yards away. Most civilian firearms engagements occur from point blank range to 10 feet. Fuck sight picture. Do what the pro said - hold that shit tight and when you squeeze, don’t let the gun move because that’s the only way you’ll miss.
Less than 5 yards you dont need to aim the most important is a tight grip to be able to shoot really fast. Then i would say just practice... 10000 rounds later its in your muscle memory you dont need to think :)
I've been trying for months to get more accurate with my Glock. I was all over the place, hitting 4-5 shots out of 10. I watched this video, and after two weekends of shooting, I'm finally hitting 6" circles at 30', 10 for 10. Very informative and practical advice.
Mind clarifying? Did you do this dry fire drill?
No he got rid of the glock
Well for starters you could get a different gun. That would help.
Dude if you need more than 1 day getting use to a glock, you shall not own a gun...
mybailbritt1A Uhhh... You should be shooting 2" groups, at 10 yards. Keep working on that "flinch". Imagine that your pistol is loaded with those little plastic bb's. Your groups will look like you were dry fire practicing. You'll be amazed!!!! Just try it, and reply back to me...
This is hands down the ABSOLUTE BEST description I've seen and heard about how to shoot a gun accurately
if you were paying attention to what he said, this is how to use a gun fast without moving by exercising control of the weapon. in no way was accuracy implied.
We are not English speakers. By accuracy we mean effectiveness.
@@manuela.8676 Actually Luis had good sentence format and uses comments like hands down and absolute best. I'm pretty sure he meant exactly what accurately means.
Your threat is your focal point always. Sights are just a plus at times. Having your weapon as an extension of your body and knowing your weapon, everything else falls into place. People don’t spend enough time really getting to know their weapon of choice and don’t practice enough. This is critical if you’re going to come out the “winner”. Our motto during my years of combat training was 1000 repetitions with something before it becomes natural proved right every time. Once you put all that together, you’ll hit your threat in a correct zone every time. I’ve always used regular sites as well. Electronic optics is just something to have as a bonus when needed for a certain environment.
I hadn't remembered this until I watched the video but this is how I was trained in the military back in the early 1980's. They first taught us to get comfortable shooting the .45 and M 16. Then progressed to rapid 3 shot bursts. All the while not worrying about shot placement but about barrel control because a the faster you shoot the more the natural rise of the barrel. Once the instructors felt the majority of us showed barrel controled they had us slow fire while aiming concentrating on breath control and consistant pressure pull on the trigger.
After learning rapid fire barrel control it was very easy for everyone to pass slow fire target scoring.
been telling my customers and patrons of my range this for a long time. practice pulling your trigger without shot anticipation. Just pull... click... reset... repeat. Dont flinch. Love this shit.
Best damn instructor I have ever watched. Holy shit he is good. No fluff, no bs just straight knowledge bombs.
Ian McClure you are a loser
Ian McClure Yep spot on comment,my thoughts exactly..
I'd sign up for his classes a year in advance
Ian...BINGO X2! He cuts the CRAP and gets DOWN to business! WE AGREE and his advice is priceless. Now, where did I put my Highpoint C9(lol...)??
PS: Actually, THAT was my first sidearm and very reliable AND accurate for all you naysayers out there(up yours too!). Keep your weapon CLEAN & TESTED and you will not have probs. Traded it in for my wunnerful G19, last yr tho... ;}
Excellent Instructor with a knack for Cutting To The Chase! He talked about precisely why most handgunners are poor shots. Finger & grip control fundamentals. How do you fire the pistol without it changing its position? Practice dry-fire and understand completely the goal.
Thanks, Rob.
That was perhaps the best lesson I ever learned about the " shooting " part of pistols I've ever heard. Clear & quick to the point, that made sense immediately. { I'm 61 yrs old }
Rob Leatham has forgotten more about shooting than 99% of shooters will ever know. When he speaks, listen! At least if you want to become a better shooter. Great tips and a great video. I totally agree with his assessment. He's vastly better than I am but what he's saying applies to all shooting. Trigger control really is the Holy Grail of shooting. Sight alignment doesn't mean shit if you can't pull the trigger without disturbing the alignment of the gun. That's why dry firing makes champions.
not pull squeeze!
No, squeeze. If you do any of the others, then you aren't going to hit shit.
Apparently you did not watch/listen to the video. For accuracy contests you need to squeeze the trigger.
For speed drills you need a CONTROLLED jerk or slap of the trigger. In either case the gun should still not move.
J Irving:
"! I would like to see him repeat what he just did using a factory gun."
If I were you, I would not bet money he couldn't! Unless you don't mind losing it!
What I would like is for you to PROVE you know more and shoot better than Rob!
Otherwise, stop shooting off your mouth! Because I suspect that is the ONLY thing you can shoot well with!
when you shoot for speed in competitions its pulling not not squeezing....with that said there are not alot of competitions where shots are made at long ranges where puling will fuk up your shot...these guys as great as they are in their short yardage shooting sports are not hunters where a long range shot is required....My dad hunted with a old timer (feked if i know his name) competition shooter but he sucked at taking a shot with a rifle let alone at longer ranges...competition shooters build muscle memory for short shots and to do it fast not practical for anyone that just hunts.
Totally agree. I never use my sights.
I don't even open my eyes.
I aim at the ceiling.
Blind Faith 360 No Scope.
i like to get really drunk before shooting, that generally compensates the 6inch drop
Ahhahah, nice )))
Me too. I just use 'The Force'.....
Completely agree .. after 30 years of pistol shooting, and coaching, this is IT boiled down!
My favorite CCW instructor taught me and my son combat shooting and it was exactly as you are describing here. He taught us point shoot. Draw safely and smoothly thrust forward and two controlled shots. Accuracy only needs to be within 5 inches target in 7 meters and 3 meters. He explained that a threat is advancing.
He was a combat veteran, retired police and active casino security plus police and military trainer/consultant. He had several combat situations where he survived and his opponent did not. He says that the most important thing is to be the first to accurate enough shots on target to survive a real world combat situation. Best advice ever. I may not hit the bullseye on a paper target but I know that I am accurate enough within range to survive an encounter with a criminal.
Plus he advised us to practice moving while shooting to avoid being an easy kill. Move side to side, duck, drop and all while keeping target in sight and getting shots in. He was actually in our local news. George killed a robber that had a pistol pointed at him. George dropped rolled and shot twice in the robbers chest. Robber 0 George +1 in another combat shooting.
What you describe is not point shooting. Rob never said "Aiming is Useless. Funker Tactical put that in and he was not happy. Why in heaven’s name would he have optics on his handgun if he wasn’t aiming?
Here's an email I received from him a while back.
["It is curious how people read the title, (which I didn’t write) and then form a conclusion based on their assumption and understanding of what is said. They never bother to see and hear what I actually said. Often people are more interested in arguing a point even when they do not understand the information. Many read the title as “You shouldn't aim” which is not what I say - ever. Funker Tactical put that out and the people that think I said you do not or should not aim need to watch it again and listen to what is actually said. I never said don’t aim. I said aiming really doesn’t matter if you can’t fire the gun without moving it. People like to argue from a poorly formed opinion."]
So he REALLY said (paraphrasing) "If you can’t keep your gun steady, THEN "Aiming is Useless."
Not one reputable LE, government or military entity teaches “point shooting.” i.e. low weapon and not distinct aiming.
Yes, at 3 yards you draw, rotate your weapon and fire without true aiming. But beyond that you always aim.
Imagine being in an active shooter confrontation with innocent bystanders in front of and behind the assailant and everyone is moving.
Shooting paper on a range with nothing but dirt to stop your rounds is a world away from a combat shootout.
Point shooting
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Side view of handgun point shooting position
Point shooting, also known as target-[1] or threat-focused shooting,[2] intuitive shooting or instinctive shooting, is a practical shooting method where the shooter points a ranged weapon (typically a gun) at a target without relying on the use of sights to aim, where the emphasis is more on fast draw and trying to score preemptive hits first rather than for accuracy.[1]
Absolutely!
Look...I do MY part in ensuring that people get to actually see and hear Rob's brilliant advice with some admittedly "creative" titling. The rest is really up to the viewer to interpret that information based on the content of the video.
Unfortunately, this is also the internet and people will do people things. This video is UNCUT (no edits) and Rob dishes out the goods.
By the way, thanks for elaborating on it. We can deliver the message to the masses...the rest is up to the people.
Really appreciate you breaking it down...even if it reaches ONE more person, it would be worth the effort!
-GN
@@FunkerTactical You have posted some very good videos, but you follow your website so you know it's true-the title was "clickbait" and wasn't necessary.
I guess I get a little too emotional when defending Rob, but some of the comments people post are truly idiotic.
"If aiming is useless when have optics on your gun?"
"Okay I won't aim I'll just blast away with a whole magazine until the gun is empty."
"Right, I don't aim because I was taught point shooting and it's much faster."
They don't see (or understand) his video and make the most preposterous statements.
I have 5 (soon ) patented weapons training systems (www.intelligenttarget.com) and they and I have trained just about every LE, military and government agency that carries a weapon.
NOT ONE teaches "point shooting."
This man's credentials got my attention right off the bat. Thank you for taking the time to help others improve.
i like this guys style of teaching. most "teachers" of ANYTHING make things so much more grandious and drawn out to inflate their own egos instead of getting the student started on his Own path of discovery. it reminded me of Bruce Lee's teaching style!
who adapted teaching from krishnamurti
??????? i really have no idea what the fuck you are referring to.
Totally agree, using logic and practical application over wasting time on what most people think you should be doing.
Be like water...
We must have watched different videos. I didn't see anything but EGO. Typical "gunshow nutcase" personality. It's not rocket science. Watch a Jerry Miculek video and notice the difference. Jerry's a gentleman.
And watching this guy walk........... he needs to go to the bathroom BEFORE the video....
This has probably been said a million times, but I was taught with a revolver, my trainer loaded the gun without me seeing. The revolver had 2 or 3 rounds and the rest were empty shells. Best way to learn not to flinch imo 👌
When I was in the military and did weapons training, we would load our buddy's mags with live and dummy rounds. This showed us how much we were anticipating recoil and helped us work on immediate/remedial action after a misfire. Great training!
Although this advise may seem unorthodox, i agree 100 percent.
Most new hand gun shooters try to shoot as if they are shooting a rifle.
I'm nowhere near "new hand gun shooter" and many of the principles I was taught regarding a rifle do apply...
@@grunt-sw8si That high-firm pistol grip...semper fi!
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This has nothing to do with genius. This has everything to do with basic physiology and physics. Limp wristed bitches are going to miss. A prison guard taught me this 20 years ago. I get a stranglehold on my firearm and relax the hell out of my trigger finger. I also use only the very tip of that finger to split the trigger right down the middle. This ensures that I pull the trigger straight back without pushing and pulling the firearm to one side or the other. The Stranglehold keeps me from Raising or lowering the barrel of the gun . All of this is completely and totally basic but most of you folks just let your fear and laziness get in the way. If you haven't practiced dry firing for 20000 to 30000 rounds then you're probably not a very good shot when you go to the range. I practice dry firing the whole time when I'm taking a dump every day.
Finally Someone To The Point!! ✊🏾💯
I see what you did there.
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Yep. Exactly
No bs
Right! 🤜🏾🤛🏾
I met Rob at the Springfield Challenge in Memphis, TN about 25 years ago when I was an LEO. He's a great guy.
While most of the other shooters i know shot thousands of rounds a year, i dry fired my glock 17c so much i snapped 1 glock oem striker ( thanks james ) and 1 zev tech titanium one( thanks armtac ). Last night i went to shoot a bit with my friend without 3 months of shooting and i was hitting a 12 inch steel target at 120 yards with my glock 17 multiple times :) I came in 7th out of 70 shooters at bc 3 gun championships point shooting and with good trigger control. i smoke 200 yard targets with my ar15 1 in 9 twist m4 barrel while standing as most went prone or supported. DRYFIRE 100 000 times and you will be where you want to be. DRYFIRE DRYFIRE DRYFIRE. Now i can start doing bill drills and practice tracking my front sight for steel challenge and USPSA. Ive only been shooting for 3 years and i have less than 5 000 rounds down range in all platforms but i dryfire twice a day for 20 minutes.
Thanks for the resume but we're not hiring son.
When I jerk off a little white flag pops out. Is this the equivalent to dryfiring?
Alejandro, thanks for pointing out what real shooters know, despite the two assholes who commented first. Navy SEALS fire about 5 times in dryfire compared to rounds sent downrange. Hmm....perhaps it matters :)
This makes sooooo much sense. When you use a pistol correction chart, every single factor as to why your round missed the target has to do with motion of the gun. So first working on pointing the gun and pulling the trigger without moving the gun is fundmental.
I find this kinda funny because he seems frustrated so I'm thinking he has been around a lot of people who didn't know how to use a gun and got pissed off, so he made this video.
Nolan Gonzales oh he mad! Lol
Nolan Gonzales Agreed! Gotta love the fire! :D
I'm not a shooting champion. No desire to be. Thus, I routinely break just about every rule (two hands, firm grip, etc) this guy advocates. For example, I use one hand and grip securely, but nor overly so. My goal is self-defense (short distances, moving targets, etc) and, as long as I can reliably put rounds on the target (practice), my method is good enough.
Dwight Stewart well said! Same for me! I only shoot close range
Clorox Bleach .. If you're talking to me, yes. I've been shooting all my life and I am a very good shot. *Not going to change that now because some guy says I should shoot his way instead of mine.* He doesn't make the rules. Hell, *there are no rules.* By the way, your analogy of the drunk is utter nonsense. I have skill and experience, not an intoxicating substance.
I use the same approach to pistol shooting as I take to archery just with a way faster processing time for lack of a better term. Don't try to hold dead on, let it float a bit and squeeze when the sights or dot is where you want to hit. Pellet handguns are also great tools for learning how to shoot without moving the gun because they either have a mushy trigger, long travel time before you hit the wall, no wall at all or it's a15lb pull, some times it's all of the above.
No one teaches what he just taught. Simple and effective!
My CC instructor taught the same tactics. I have not shoot a gun in 25 years and all 30 shoots were center mass..
Some instructors teach this.
@@johnsmith-vf5xb Some... there are a hundred thousand "instructors."
Great defence in court if you ever have a fight go wrong.
Pat mac teaches the opposite. Ex tier 1 opperator. I'll go with him thank you
I absolutely love the practical ACCURATE advice this guy gives top-notch
Wow! in just a 5 min video I now know why I am such a lousy shot , good advice, I will put this to work right away
This is by far the most logical break down I've ever seen or heard of on shooting a pistol. I wish I would have seen this years ago it would have saved me a lot of time and money because almost every instructor really starts too advanced without establishing the basic fundamentals of what consistent and accurate shooting consists of wether fast or slow precision
Hand somebody an empty gun that they think is hot a revolver is best and then leave one empty and most people will anticipate the kick and drop the barrel down
Funny thing my grandmother learned shooting from her father and she told me pistols are point and click.
point where your finger would point and click to fire and keep your eyes open.
Works perfectly fine even up too quite some effective range lol .
looks like this was all figured out quite some time ago.
Yes, common sense is uncommon.
The hard part is keeping the gun perfectly steady while you 'click'.
It's all in the grave now. Have to start from new, the reality of tomorrow.
I know a woman rarely misses a flying clay bird and tells me all she does is point and shoot
he never said not to aim he said aiming was pointless until you could pull the trigger without moving the gun. then you can concentrate on aiming also why is this so hard to understand what he said
It is curious the things people think are being said here. This has nothing to do with sights or red dots. Those are just tools use to aim. And until you can make aiming meaningful and useful, focusing on it as the priority simply will not help your shooting except to slow down the inevitable poor shot that follows. Don't read in to this. Don't try to adapt what I said to comply with your understanding. If what I say disagrees with your beliefs, question why... If you want to learn and improve, watch it again and try to understand. It is simple enough, but since it disagrees with popular opinion and dogma it may be hard to accept. The world is not flat...
Rob Leatham I saw another video you had and you said, just look and where you want to shoot, point and fire (not using sights so much)....guess what? I hit the target without going outside the rings.....Thanks, have to work on speed though.
Rob is one of the best combat shooters in the world.
If he says something about shooting, listen to him.
Unless you are an idiot! In which case it won't matter either way!
This is working wonders for my wife who is a new shooter and keeping me in line. Thank you.
Well, Imagine your experience level and skill would over ride mine... So sure, whatever you say... I have found nothing over the past 35 years that I have spent learning and training is the finite answer. I do know that many, many people struggle to understand something different when they want the information to agree with their beliefs. But you go on doing what you are doing. Or more likely, not doing what you think you are doing. If I'd never learned anything new I'd still be an average shot...
It's not your fault you don't understand and are therefore offended by this information. To a large degree the teaching process has become nothing more than passing on readings from the book of collective knowledge, regardless of it's content..
If however you were to understand what was said in this piece you might feel differently. Have a great day!
Rob Leatham just left the navy but my sub's RSO was having those of us who could shoot well to not use the sights on the M9 when doing our gun shoots.
As a novice I will change my practice program to focus on this skill -- pulling the trigger without moving the gun. THANK YOU!
I’ve been to three four-hour classes with Rob and learned more about shooting with him than the rest of my life combined. He is awesome and speaks the truth!!
i was in a range team, this is correct. i had the fastest fire rate and the second best accuracy. line up the sights and don't move it and it'll go straight, don't need to slow your breathing or slowly pull the trigger. it's a machine the only thing affecting it is human error and wear.
No bullshit and straight to the point! That’s what I’m talking about!
As Ronald Reagan used to say, "It's not complicated. It's just hard."
Wow I wonder why that’s not one of the more popular Ronald Reagan quotes?
Timothy 2:2:3 b
Just like poker
If Ronald Reagan said it, it's right.
@L B Ronald Reagan is ALWAYS the best person to quote! :D
I watched this when I was new to firearms it’s still the Best advice going today!! Straight to the point and relevant regardless of where you are at in your training.
I watch so many videos on TH-cam just to finally stumble across a video like this; something that will actually make me better
accuracy is important when there is an active shooter and you need to take them out with a headshot or somethin
rob just pissed off a whole bunch of firearms instructors unless I didn't see him correctly he didn't get into the vaunted combat stance and he still hit the target amazing.
Except that "combat stance" isn't about accuracy.
"Accuracy" is also relative. Small groups are great, but rapid hits are more important in combat. It doesn't matter if your shots are a couple inches apart on a center mass hits. The badguy now has two holes in him. Those kinds of groups won't win you competitions, but it'll keep you alive.
James James also it's not taught my police or military.
Sean Haggard Says the civilian
UNFORGIVENGOD24 Sorry for giving my opinion, but from my civilian irrelevant position the Weaver stance is more commonly taught by police academies.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I am a newbie. Everybody keeps telling me that it is my aim that was wrong. When in fact, with my small petite hands, it was hard for me to keep the gun still. Thank you for this common sense advise.
Everyone in America should watch this man ,take a course with him ....I've been shooting for decades...this guy just improved my shot placement by doing what he says.....GREAT KNOWLEDGE BOMB....PLEASE KEEP BRINGING THE KNOWLEDGE...
That's how my grandfather trained us. My cousin got so good, he was able to shoot one of my arrows out of the air mid flight. Competent confidence
LOL
I was able to shoot a bullet out of the air.
I was able to shoot the air out of the air.
He is 1 of 2 6x division champion, and we have 1000 silly people that placed thumbs down on this video, that I can guarantee they couldn't out shoot him.
even if you thumbs up'ed this video you couldn't out shoot him so what you said doesn't make any sense, but I see what you're sayin'
Great tips too much ranting and anger
The thumbs down were probably liberal gun haters that thumbs down all gun videos.
I'm a liberal, but I work security, and this is priceless advice. I'd still want less guns in the world
eksine - makes PERFECT sense if you understand how logic works. it's easy to follow; i'll help you:
1. people thumbing down are essentially saying the instructor's wrong (or are snowflakes, whose opinions are inconsequential to this matter)
2. if they think he's so wrong, they need to account for his world competition standings, which is pretty damning evidence that he's not wrong.
3. however, one such way to controvert his expertise would be if a naysayer held a higher ranking than him
4. people who agree with him don't need to offer evidence, as HE is his own evidence.
see how that works? yw.
Reminds me of the old "penny test" where you press the trigger on an empty 1911 without the penny falling off the front sight.
TobyTheBlackDog o
Yup, dad taught me that with a revolver.
Never heard of it, gonna have to add it to my home training while watching TV. Great drill!
GREAT IDEA!!
In the military it was dime test on the barrel of our M16s. =)
Now this is no BS information on shooting! No BS fluff or other never ending crap. You Rob, are one of the few who know what your talking about. Thank you!
thank you for keeping it simple and real. subscribed
Thank you. My shooting went form hitting the target all over to a 6 to 9 inch circle because of this advice!!
Thanks I needed these tips. Just went to the range for the first time and I was super disappointed in my grouping. I noticed a few times that I was moving the gun downwards in anticipation right before I shot.
I love your straight to the point no nonsense message. Thank you. Liked and subscribed just now.
Great way of looking at this. Never heard anyone explain it this way but makes great sense. Nice drop
I hope more folks see this video. It shows the essence of accurate fast shooting. Everything happens at the moment of the shot- not before that, not after that. This video seizes on this simple fact. Thank you for posting it.
Only if those people don't plan on being criminals and/or shooting back at me if they threaten my life lol
Your instruction was spot-on! This is my biggest problem when I go pistol shooting. Thanks!
Been shooting since I was a youngster and I was taught to aim first. From just those three steps, I believe I will be a better shot. Range day tomorrow. Thank you for providing valuable knowledge sir.
Badass video! No BS. Straight to the meat and potatoes. Gives me something to practice. My pistol shooting is slowly getting more and more precise. 1 thousand people disliked this for what reason exactly?
Markywahlbarger They think they know more than Rob!
krispewkreme
We have total 52 thousand who liked this video an 1 thousand idiots who didn't like. That's normal percentage statistically.
People are weird, man.
krispewkreme 1k people use aimbot
krispewkreme you are a loser
It’s freakish how dead still that gun is as he is wacking on the trigger.
What Ever
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This is a weird thread
"Never make shooting a chore!" Enjoyyyyyyy It!
That is one of the best training videos I have ever seen. No BS. Just straightforward, logical advice from a shooting master.
Read some of the posts that demonstrably state "I don't like your style, you're too "pissed off."
Some of the best training in the world but they want it delivered by a Sunday school teacher.
Go figure..............
Rob,
As a newbie, that is simply the best advice I have received!! Thank you for sharing your expertise!
For those of you that don't understand the point of the video, it is not worth me trying to explain it again, you just watched it explained to near perfection. I have been a very active instructor since the 1990's and this is the BEST video on the internet to convey the information needed for a new or struggling shooter. For you right-handers that keep shooting low and left, or you left-handers that keep shooting low and right - y'all just keep shooting hundreds of rounds and having fun doing it. It is probably the guns fault! If you put every round exactly where you want it, great! If you don't you should watch this multiple times and hope that it eventually sinks in for you. Patriot Fiream Training, Gainesville, GA
I love your matter-of-fact style and drilling down on the basics. Excellent video.
Some are put off by Rob being so straight-forward. I'm not. Stay safe.
I've seen this video a few times awhile ago (few years) and again today. It is still by far the best advice out there! Thank you again!!
Love this. Thank you. I have also heard that dry firing 50 to 100 times per day conditions our brain to not worry about, or anticipate, the noise and recoil. When your brain does not go there, your behavior at the last moment will be settled and consistent.
Thank you for making such a profound statement about how to shoot. It is so simple and works so well.
Thanks man, I'm using a Sportsman 900 air rifle. I followed your 3 steps and it boosted my short range accuracy greatly.
Wow..as a beginner..this is the best info I have gotten so far on you tube…starting tomorrow I will practice this over and over…thx for the great short and very informative video..you deserve the 👍👍👍
AMEN!! This is the first darn time I've ever heard someone explain this properly! Nice job!
I'm so happy this went through my suggestion feed I was just trying to teach a buddy of mine how to shoot, and this video summed up on my entire conversation with her
That is probably one of the hardest lessons i needed to learn when i bought my first handgun. Made me smirk to see it broken down into 3 steps here
I’ve watched this video several times since it was first posted. Talk about a motivating instructor! Thanks so much for sharing your expertise with all of us mere mortals.😊
I was a sniper with the 101st in Vietnam. What you said in this video was ... ahem ... on-target. I primarily used the M14 firing sabot-discarding rounds, firing a .223 bullet. Never had a shot in that jungle over 75 yards. At the speeds the round was traveling, I didn't need that all-important "perfect scope" sighting. As several thousand feet per second, that round was going to go where I was pointing at the time I pulled the trigger. Good advice, Rob.
This is the first instructor out of all the gun gurus who has said something totally different about gun training. Al others repeat the same conventional concepts about sight focus, and smooth trigger control.
dcentral cause what all others are teaching is precision shooting not speed shooting.
Precision shooting is better than speed shooting imo
+Tree Sheep I would say it depends on what you are teaching them for. If you are teaching shooting for hunting precision is better, for home defense speed is better, same tool different situation.
Pantjay I would rather have one solid hit than three grazes. (Assuming that shooting fast will make your hits less precise.)
In police and self-defense shootings, the "bad guy" sometimes takes more than a dozen handgun bullets before expiring or quitting the fight. If your purpose in shooting is to stop the "bad guy" from shooting other people or pressing the button on a suicide vest, then that's not good enough. A fast stop requires a brain shot, which requires precision, which requires aiming. If you're goal is to shoot alphas on a USPSA target, then it works pretty well for TGO, obviously.
Been shooting for 20 years and FINALLY see what i ve been doing wrong. Thank you sir!!!
Pity you never invested in proper professional training instead of learning bad habits all your life!