Unless the guy hits the deck just as you hear police sirens! Put that shit away before they drill you! Dropping it on the floor just buggers the finish and they might swipe it even if they don't shoot you. Once they have it they'll never give it back to you--you're now out a gun even if the judge decides it's legit self-defense.
@@tenicorusa for me dude, I find carrying on my waist to be the easiest and most convenient when using both semi-auto handguns and revolvers (and this depends on both clothing and holsters being used)
when I was taking my CCW class my instructor said "if you take your gun out the world already knows you have it, so take all the time in the world to put that gun back" in 22 years of training he had one injury and guess when it was? yep, when someone was holstering their gun at the end of class.
I always wondered if these instructors ever have it in their minds about this. Its pretty risky to go in front of new gun owners with loaded weapons to teach them I think but I guess 22 years and only 1 accident is a good sign!
Reminds me of all the times you hear about the police shooting a CCW holder who just stopped a mass casualty event. Because he kept his piece visible for too long.
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One of the best appendix carry videos I've seen yet. So much fear mongering from people that still wonder why we choose to carry a round in the chamber. Your lesson concretes my confidence in continuing to carry appendix.
This entire story and information from 2:30 - 3:34 absolutely hit home with me and will forever change the way I handle firearms. Being American and living with my gun owning grandfather, I naturally learned firearm safety. Now that I am an adult and new gun owner, I have definitely had this sense of "guns I know are unloaded are 100% safe", and from this point forward will never think the same. Thank you, sir.
I heard a marine say once, "your greatest weapon is your fitness." And I'm too heavy and guilty as well, but we spend so much time picking guns and ammo and holster we don't think about the simple. Would I be fast enough to run away if needed or strong enough if the fight got close. A good weapon needs to be maintained, men. You need to be a weapon.
@@truecross4090Amen! Been hitting the gym M-W-F every week this year and although the scale hasn't moved, I feel strong and confident. At 5'10 and 275, I'm proud of my twelve minute mile 😅 gotta train with my weapons.
@@tenicorusaI've carried concealed for over FIFTY years & I've never shot myself because largely because I don't deliberately point a loaded pistol at my testicles &/or femoral arteries... News flash...all the practice in the World won't make you bulletproof or immune to accidents.
how do you do that on a self assembled lower? lol. been carrying overwatch precision appendix in a p80 lower appendix for 2 years already no issues. definitely tested it a bunch before but with a glock trigger, it needs to be pulled to fully load the striker spring so nothing can happen even if there is some internal malfunction that drops the sear.
@@Edward55221 if you're going to do that then it's better to not carry than having someone get the jump on you and remove your gun for the use of criminals.
1. Deliberate movements 2. Trigger/ finger discipline 3. Remove holster, reholster, secure holstered weapon in ur appendix carry position Those r the 3 things I do to ensure my safety. I carry appendix everywhere I go, even if it’s just for a late night drive with no destination
@@ProffesorChaosesFile i now am able to carry and am a little intimidated by that. Think i will do this as well and with everything else in the video im not worried anymore
Thank you for such a transparent discussion. We need more of this in the community. I felt exactly as you described when carrying. It was all I could think about. My wife is grabbing steaks and asking me what else is on the grocery list and all I can think about is I have a loaded gun on me in public. Very reassuring to know others feel the same way. It is an incredible responsibility that should be taken with the utmost seriousness.
@@tenicorusa Absolutely. Not sure how you feel about it but a video of the pros and cons of open carry vs conceal might be a good one. Personally I'm against open carry and don't like seeing guys flexing in public like it's the wild West. Don't really have any positives to say about it other than slightly faster access. Would like to know your thoughts.
It's almost like if you don't pull the trigger... the gun won't go off (well SOME guns might.. lol). The fear of appendix carry comes from lack of training and lack of confidence in yourself to safely manipulate the firearm from that position.
I’ll carry appendix maybe around 5% of the time, if at all. There’s this universal rule. Never point a gun at anything you don’t want to destroy. For some reason, we carved out an exception for the most vital part of the human body. I’m not exactly sure why that is, but there are many variables for what can happen. And malfunctions are still part of that equation. And it only takes one incident to ruin your life permanently. Just imagine, you have a gun so you and your family can be safe, and the very tool that’s supposed to keep you safe is the one that makes you unsafe. Doesn’t make much sense to me. So, my rule of thumb is, 1 in the chamber… 4-5 o’clock carry 95% of the time. If my gun ever malfunctioned, I’ll have a bad week and perhaps a small surgery. If your gun malfunctions at appendix, it could change your life completely. And no one is going to take responsibility for what happened to you after it happens, especially the manufacturer.
For me, a small guy, appendix carry is the best choice for a simple reason. I never have to worry about the grip printing when I’m seated or bending over. It’s also way more comfortable when seated.
@@tomcat1555 once you get the ride height correct it’s fine. Im a 5’7” manlet so I can do it with a G19 but no big flashlight or else it gets real uncomfortable
Another excellent video covering every aspect of concealed carry in a thorough and easy to understand way. I especially liked the re-holstering tutorial. I have never seen that explained so well. Sharing this video.
Approaching 50 years of carry. I was a NRA LEO Firearms Instructor before I trusted myself enough to go appendix carry. In competition it was natural. Now it's all automatic and muscle memory. In a Patrol car it could be very difficult to draw from the seated position. We did not have the appendix carry as an option. Listening to you I sound like I am listening to one of my lectures. Great job Brother and Thank you for your service. Beware of FBI style jacket wind cords and cinching knobs when reholstering! Sgt.SteveRet 🇺🇸
50 years of not carrying. Never felt the need to, never heard of anyone that felt the need. But I'm European, so I can't relate to constantly feeling threatened by everyone you meet.
@@nilov71if Johanna Blanes would have had a means to defend herself should wouldn’t have been graped and murdered by that Syrian refugee in France. The saying goes “better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it”. You’re more than free to pretend bad people don’t exist it’s all good.
Tessa Booth has a video and demonstrates pivoting your hips forward and moving your torso backwards when reholstering to get any part of body out of the way of muzzle. Its what I do when reholstering from AIWB.
A few weeks ago, a retired us forces dude shot his balls off in the next bay to me in the outdoor shooting range. He was practicing draw from aiwb holster with p229, I think. He miricaly lived. The guy was experienced for sure, and those accidents do happen to the best of us. It made me very uneasy to carry my p320xc aiwb and especially with all those "discharged while holstered" news. I will probably switch to the hammer fired decocker ver pistol soon. I spend most of my shooting time competing in uspsa, but now I dedicate a few sessions a month (maybe 500rds) to practice my live fire appendix draw. My advice to all, no matter how much experience you think you have, don't get too comfortable, stay sharp. Do daily dryfire before holstering.
I just don't understand why would a person need to holster their gun while their holster is on their belt in the appendix carry. I get into the habit of removing my holster, holstering the gun away from me, then putting my holster back on my belt. Of course, it's more time consuming, but I never have to worry about hurting Ole' Charlie.
I prefer to carry outside the waist at 3:00. Sometimes based on clothing that is not possible and I appendix carry. My draw is smooth and fluid from either position and slightly faster from appendix. No issues drawing from appendix but, I personally will remove the holster and insert the gun as one unit. Do I have to? No but, I see no reason to be in a hurry to reholster.
I am with you on OWB. I just find any form of IWB very uncomfortable, even with my G42. I do live in an open carry State so I am not concerned about printing from a legal standpoint but people are overly concerned people might notice. It is my experience that 75%+ of the population won't notice an openly carried pistol let alone one that is covered but prints a little bit.
@johnshepherd9676 That is about the same for me. I have found for me appendix carry is comfortable or more comfortable with Micros but, it wasn't until I got the Kore Essentials belt. When I carry appendix my holster is about 1:00 to 1:30. The Kore belt causes a slight stand off at the buckle. Unlike most guys that carry appendix I keep my buckle in the front but pulled over to about 11:00. That has made all of the difference in the world to me.
If it works for you that’s great. For me anything IWB is just not comfortable. I carry, and have for over 40 years, OWB at 3-4 o clock I can draw and re holster without looking with slow deliberate movement the gun slides back in the holster. I don’t care what works for others, what I do mind is going to a training and having someone demand I change what has worked for me because they were a super operator with PDC agency. There is more than one way to safely carry a firearm.
@@UncleDanBand64 Everything you said, I do. From where I keep my buckle to taking out my holster from my belt to holster my gun. I am happy that smart minds think alike.
I appreciate framing it as a more mature mindset being needed. I know people who at minute one of learning how to handle and shoot firearms likely had the maturity to handle safe practices around AIWB, and I also know folks who've been around guns their whole lives that I absolutely don't trust with that. I think you can crawl-walk-run those sorts of people into AIWB, but it takes active change from them to make that happen.
Nice! Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this topic. Your presentation & demeanor are very pleasant. Not typical to see, when searching for videos to view & learn from. 👊🏽
I mostly carry IWB at the 4 o-clock position. But if I’m not wearing a jacket or sweatshirt I carry appendix just cause it’s more concealable. 4pm is easily the most comfortable area to carry but comes with a lot of risks with printing and someone grabbing your gun.
How many reports have you seen, read or heard about where the bad guy saw the imprint of a weapon and grabbed it? Pretty hard to do if you're aware of your surroundings, and have your shirt covering the weapon. They would have to pull your shirt up and then grab your weapon without you knowing or fighting back...Pretty hard to do.
@@sjagain I actually saw that in a video. Yes, you should ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings... but there will be times you WILL lose focus. There are sooo many things that occurs in your life that it is impossible to remain focus on one though all day long. That is what happened to the guy in the video. He went to talk to really quickly ask the clerk at the register for information when out of no where, a guy comes to his back an in lightning speed, picks up his shirt and removes his gun and runs off. It happened in seconds. I guess the guy noticed the printed gun. Of course, this happened in a place that was not safe, but it just comes to show that when you feel safe, you may lose focus. By carrying it appendix, I never have to worry about getting my gun taken away from me.
Great video explanation of appendix carry. I started off Carrying 3 o'clock then because of printing and just figuring out it is way better to carry appendix I started carrying CZ decockers. Now I carry 365s appendix which was kinda scarry at first but you just need to use a good holster and reholster looking it in very carefully. For anyone who wants an extra failsafe and you don't mind carrying a larger more Glock 19 size pistol buy a CZ double action decocker like the P-07, P-01, or a Shadow 2 compact, these give you an extra level of saftey with the longer double action pull as well as being able to keep your thumb over the hammer when reholstering. With your thumb over the hammer you will feel if anything catches the trigger.
1. Use the proper holster for your firearm 2. When placing your firearm into the holster, make sure it is properly seated 3. Keep your finger off of the trigger 4. Don't aim it at anything you don't want dead or destroyed 5. If you have to use your firearm, know that whatever is behind what you are about to shoot will also possibly die or get destroyed. How much more simple do you need it??
@@benfranklin5335 I have read the babbling riddles of the truly insane, but I have never had even a thought to live by their words. Unlike the 10 commandments, I can easily prove that guns exist, and eventually a day will come where if you have a gun and don't follow those rules, a boom will be heard, someone will die and/or something will be destroyed. I think if people would stop with the PC foolishness of not wanting to offend or hurt feelings, and make them view bodies and the destruction of what bullets do, let them puke a few times...I think it would make people see reality.
And appendix carry violates #4 and arguably #2 and #5 because it is pointed at oneself during holstering, during carry, and during a (possibly stressful) draw.
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen this instructor really gets it i also have been carrying appendix for over 32 years and every single thing that this instructor has said was absolutely true I also am a Certified Master Firearms Instructor i was so impressed with the knowledge of this instructor I’m going to also incorporate certain things from his videos to my own advanced Students Hey brother keep up the good work making Great Learning And Teaching videos their only a few instructors who really care about students learning Quality Training Concepts Thank God for people who care the industry of Firearms Training regimes ⭕️⭕️⭕️
I've been appendix carrying and training since 2007 with a cloth uncle Mike's holster and haven't shot myself in the stones yet. I do really feel like I need a holster upgrade though
Why don't you just remove the holster from your belt to holster your weapon? I don't see any scenario where you would need to holster your gun while the holster is on your belt. Yes, it is more time consuming... but I guess it is better to be safe than sorry.
I found that appendix carry works the best for me for all of the reasons you mentioned. It's also the most comfortable carry method for me. I love my Glock 19s and other striker fired guns, but I carry a CZ-P07, a DA/SA gun with a decocker. The DA trigger pull is about 9 lbs, the SA pull is about 4 lbs. I carry it with a round in the chamber, decocked. When I holster the gun it is decocked and my thumb is on the back of the hammer while holstering.
I only carry appendix, i know it's not going to go off but i feel phantom pains in my leg when im carrying sometimes, but overall imo it's the safest bc us appendix advocates are trained to be safe while holstering, we make sure our garment is absolutely cleared and we walk our firearm into the holster. I've seen some people get into a hurry to shove it the holster really fast and it gives me the spooks 😂. Safety depends on the person 🙂
I do not see any scenario where you need to holster your firearm in the holster while it is on your belt in appendix carry. I take away my holster from my belt, holster facing in a safe direction, then put the holster back on my belt. Yes, it is more time consuming, but I will never have to worry my good old trusted friend that have satisfied me oh so many times, by one stupid accident. There is a reason it's called an accident. It may never happen, but when it does, you will wish you didn't take the risk in the first place.
@@houseofhas9355 first you need to understand firearms don't go off by themselves. Learn all the internals that make the gun safe and watch a video on it. Our minds can expect the worst when it comes to doing something we are unfamiliar with such as fear of failure, accidents, you can't let fear control you. Trust me, it may take awhile to get over the fears of carrying appendix, but during that time pray to God, practice and go by sheer faith. It's safe, some may say it's reckless, just don't get to comfortable and be negligent, Jesus loves you and stay safe.
@@joer8386the gun won’t go off by itself especially a glock which is what i carry. every “accidental” shooting is more of a negligent one; shitty holster, finger near the trigger, ect. if you’re careful and watch the gun go in and out you’ll never shoot yourself
@@seawaterr I do not disagree with you. These accidents especially occur in high stress scenarios like I've been in. It's better to be safe than sorry. Even the gun's community most sacred safety rule, which is, "Do not point your gun at anything you do not intend to shoot" says it better than I could. You yourself named two potentials, and that's two too many.
There's an interesting holster that's been out for a while now called the MIC holster. It snaps over the trigger guard and permits what you might call "Mexican carry" or "appendix carry" depending how you look at it. It also allows (in fact it demands) you to reholster off your body before putting the firearm back in place.
I carry appendix and almost always holster the firearm out of my pants and then stick the whole thing on my waistband instead of holstering in the waistband to really eliminate the chance of errors.
@@TheRange7 no you dingle I holster it like normal because that's simulating a real life situation, and i always look it into the holster for an added layer of safety. There's no reason to add unnecessary risk by holstering it like I'm at the range every morning when I strap it on.
very knowledgeable former officer/instructors that helps me learn more confidently on my CC and the laws needed to abide by to not just carry but be a responsible individual around others as a civilian
Everyone is an expert. Me too. With the proper clips, it's easy to take your holster off, point downrange and re-holster, then put the holster back on. Easy and quick to do!
You have to practice holstering, certainly. But, in my experience in several years of appendix carry, in daily usage you may not have to take that risk, you just put your holster in your belt with your gun already holstered. And at the end of the day, you took your holster from your belt with your gun in it (unless you need to use your gun during the day, which is very rare to occur).
OMG! I wrote this exact comment in a previous post. I wrote: "I just don't understand why would a person need to holster their gun while their holster is on their belt in the appendix carry. I get into the habit of removing my holster, holstering the gun away from me, then putting my holster back on my belt. Of course, it's more time consuming, but I never have to worry about hurting Ole' Charlie."
a really good point i heard recently about carrying is that you do NOT need to re holster quicky. ever. if you are holstering your gun then there is no threat, there is no rush. whatever rush there may have been must be over if youre putting your gun away. so its ok to take your time and do it safely.
Then, take the holster from your belt and then draw. You can then put the holster on your belt with the gun already inserted without any worries in the world.
I personally just appendix carry safety off, empty chamber. Sure it's minimally slower to be ready since you have to cycle it but it's pretty much guaranteed safe while carrying even against some freak accident that somehow has a double action trigger pull happening while holstered.
Carrying on an empty chamber is usually not a good idea. If you need that firearm in a split second, there’s a lot that can wrong with chambering a round in tight spaces or under stress. I’m of the persuasion that everybody should do what makes them comfortable, but just realize virtually nobody who’s carried firearms professionally who realizes how fast these situations unfolds recommends it out in the real world.
Very good class. I have your Appendix Holster and favor the plastic straps to secure it, you are one of the few that make them available. Price on this item is selling point and its function. Good work.
My one big issue concerning appendix carry is how do you sit down without your weapon digging into you? I carry a 1911 G.I. with the 5" barrel and I think that I'd have a very hard time trying to sit down without it digging into my various body parts. My current carry position is forward of my hip at about the 10:00 o'clock position. I find that my pistol is actually pointing away from my hip due to the angle of my holster yet I can still reach my weapon without any major issues. Many thanks for a great video as it is very informative and it goes into great detail of the plus and minus' of the different carry positions.
What I do is I invested in a nice ratcheting style tactical belt, it’s super easy to adjust it a couple clicks in either direction loosening or tightening it and it’s got minimal buckles etc for carrying specifically. When I get into the car, I loosen the ratchet system a couple clicks and just slide my pants up a couple inches, get situated and I’m ready to go. Then before I exit my car I lift my hips up slightly, lower my waistband back down to its normal position and tighten the ratchet system a couple clicks again and I’m ready to go. It lifts the entire waistband up to where it’s not digging into your thigh or manhood anymore while driving, and I drive in a very upright seat position due to lower back problems so this is even more effective if you don’t sit in that high of a seating position when driving.
I forget which instructor it was but he suggested never reholster while in the belt. Pull the holster. Reholster weapon. Then put rig back in belt. I like that way best.
I am too fat to carry appendix safely with a re-holster practice. I do have a TXC appendix holster that I use with the NEOMAG Alias system that allows me to remove the holster easily from my waistline, re-holster my pistol and then put the holster back in my waistline. That is the only way I re-holster my pistol while carrying appendix. I have never come close to shooting myself with this method. Does it slow down training exercises? Sure does! However, it reduces my chances of accidently shooting myself greatly.
This is new news to me about carrying appendix between 10:30-1:30 positions. I find it most comfortable to carry appendix at noon position. Anything wrong with that technique? I understand most guys can't carry at noon comfortably because they are fat/have bellies, but I've taken care of my health and fitness and have a flat, lean stomach.
At 5’11” 215, I don’t have much of a gut but I’m also not ripped. I have a Tenicor paired with a shield plus. I’ve followed all the instructions and tips and tricks regarding placement and comfort for appendix carry. Tried the pencil method. Tried higher, lower, moving it from straight-up 12 o’clock to 2:30 in small increments. Wedges and no wedge, pillow and mo pillow. Nothing works. Simply can’t get comfortable. At 3:30/4 o’clock the comfort level is fantastic. That’s how I carry. I respect and understand everything said in this video and others about AIWB. And I kinda wish I had the option and that it was comfortable. But it’s not. So for anyone out there reading this who has gone through everything I have, tried many holsters micro adjusted at virtually every position, there’s no shame in putting up your hands and saying “AIWB just doesn’t work for me”.
Outstanding video! As a retired LEO, I still carry at about 4 o'clock because of gun retention training and habit. I really like the idea of caring cross-draw.
One thing that I noticed about reholstering, and the holster used is... to avoid any accident, remove the holster from your waistband, reholster the firearm, and place the holster firearm, back in your waistband.. springclip retention, shouldn't be too hard, and much safer
New to the channel here. Loving the content and style/editing of the videos. Thank you for all your helpful opinions and guidance on these topics. Keep up the good work! 💪🏻
I have see negligent discharges in multiple carrying positions and on the hip they took a round to the thigh i have seen NDs at appendix where the got lucky and only lost a pair of pants
I carry a kydex inside the waistband at 2 o'clock and there's no urgency in reholstering so normally I transfer the weapon to my off hand, pop my holster out of my waistband, reholster my weapon, then reinstall my holster.
I think most people that I know that carry appendix does it this way. I ALWAYS take out my holster. Holstering means that the threat has been eliminated or you are finished shooting and it is safe. Therefore, there is no rush to holster with the holster on your belt.
I’ve always thought about how shoulder holsters are just flagging everyone behind you. Probably completely fine unless you’re carrying a first gen p320.
That's why you would want a vertical shoulder holster. It also makes your gun seem smaller and is even less visible under your arm. It still carries the concern of shooting yourself, but that's why you should never be in a hurry to re-holster it. There's a whole video on shoulder holsters here, on TH-cam.
I conceal carry and I use the appendix style because holstering from the hip hurts my back. I find using that style is very comfortable and most of the time you forget its even there.
Question for the doubters: how do you get a clean shirt pull to get it out of the way of your grip when your holstering from 3-6 o' clock? you don't lol. You (probably) lean forward to expose your grip and get your hand on it, or use the same hand you'll use to draw to first pick up your shirt or jacket THEN draw. And that's not at all considering how much people print when they carry on their hip, I've yet to see someone able to totally conceal while doing things like sitting or bending over with a hip carry, at least not in a way they can reliable draw. Appendix carry? World record draw to shot times. P.s. great job mentioning the REHOLSTERING process, I have no real data to back it up but I’m pretty sure that's how most of these accidents happen..
When drawing from a horizontal shoulder holster you flag the non shooting arm unless you raise and tuck. Same issue with a major artery at risk but more people have issues with a weapon pointed at their junk. Know the dangers in the method of your carry and minimize the risks by training.
I find that people who carry appendix often times invent a lot of stuff to justify it. It's not that I don't think there are reasons to do it. For instance, I do think it leads to a faster draw. I also think it can be very comfortable sometimes. That being said, it's also super dangerous. Like, WAY more dangerous than other carry methods. I can carry in my shoulder holster, on my hip, in a pocket, and NEVER point the gun at myself during the entire time. maybe when it's in holster it will flash me but I'm never holding the gun and aiming it at myself when holstering or drawing. At most you can say that I'm maybe coming close at times but there is a massive difference between holstering into my shoulder holster or on my hip and holstering into the front of my waistband. I think anyone who suggests otherwise is either dishonest or being silly. Also, guns in a holster aren't secure. We shouldn't pretend like they are. Modern guns fail. Holsters fail. Safeties fail. Kids reach their fingers into shit... I'd rather them fail with minimal damage to myself and my surroundings. Relying on the safety of the holster to protect you, seems like a flawed way to think. Yes, when holstered and in a prone position, I'm pointing the gun backwards. Yup... That happens and some of that is unpreventable and is always going to be a concern.. That doesn't mean you don't minimize the risk. I've seen multiple examples of guns going off in a delayed fashion. Pulling the trigger, nothing happens, and then all of a sudden BOOM! Gun goes off. All it takes is one trigger press with no click and no bang and then someone's dumb ass puts the gun back into the holster and.... Well.... Loses their junk or their life. On top of that, there are multiple videos of p320's firing themselves. Guns firing from bumps or drops and people making dumb adjustments to their triggers and making them not safe anymore. I don't want to be a statistic because I didn't avoid something that was incredibly avoidable. In fact, I refused to carry a gun for a good amount of time. You carried for 25 years? Well, I refused to carry for 10 before I felt like I could do it safely. Maybe it's because I've seen enough gore videos to know what happens when that one little thing goes wrong that you didn't plan for or planned around it never happening...
@@Cameron-mw5cr If you believe that please stop carrying a gun. Carrying a gun in any fashion is unsafe. Its how we mitigate those risks that keeps accidents from happening.
Thank you for this informative video. I was sold on appendix carry a while back when i bought my first CCW gun; however, I couldn't get it to work for me; can't sit down with it, uncomfortable to even walk. Am i doing it wrong??
It's typically a holster design issue or a fitment issue. We'll have a video soon on how to best adjust your holster for comfort as it can be a little tricky.
If I ever do have to reholster in appendix, it'll be because I've used the handgun in self defense. Otherwise, the gun is in the holster when the holster goes onto my belt. Gun comes out of the holster for the night stand, then back in the holster before I put it on my belt for carry the following morning.
Very professional explanation, instantly subscribed. I think another good idea is to maybe consider a gun double action triggered, exposed hammer gun with a decocking lever like a Beretta 90 series or SIG P220 series as well as some of the CZ or HK double action pistols.
Great content. I carry a 43X appendix in a Certum3 with a Zero belt. Just slapped on a foam wedge and good to go. Very comfortable and secure. Excellent combo, completely disappears wearing a normal fit T-shirt. Sometimes I’ll switch it out with a standard Kore Belt, but that’s about it.
When reholstering you also want to visually verify there is no debris such as a spent casing inside the holster that will cause a negligent discharge... Gear info, thank you sir. Stay safe God Bless ✌️ 🇺🇲
No matter how safe the holster, or holstering process. It's still breaking one of the 4 major rules of gun safety. "Never point the muzzle at anything that you are not willing to destroy." So for that reason, I will not appendix carry.
@@BradleyHurt-i9h If you're constantly pointing a gun at your wiener you're stupid. You like it that's fine. Everybody's got their own opinion. I happen to think appendix carry is dumb. Especially with a striker fired gun with no manual safety.
I've spent most of my adult life in the military, where every weapon I've trained on had a safety. However, I recently bought a P365 and found it to be comfortable and easily accessible for appendix carry due to its high concealability. The only concern is that it doesn't have a safety, making me hesitant to keep a chambered round while carrying it in the appendix position.
Appendix is the best way to carry, but the fear is real, so I think the best way is choosing the most safe gun and training, we are human and shit happens
I posted this as my main comment, it just applies to your message I carry a m&p m2 3.6" barrel appendix. I have the thumb safety lever. I've trained my body to not pull the trigger til drawn, and to slap my safety on the draw. I have a piece of steel blocking my trigger(the safety.) unless something pulls my trigger with enough force to snap the steel. I'm safe. If you are scared of an impact setting of your trigger, just get one with a well placed safety. Then TRAIN with it. I spend 10 minutes everyday drawing and dryfiring with snapcaps. Being I have to move a safety to shoot you have to train your muscle memory to flip it. Appendix carry is as safe as the gunholder.
Coopers Rule #2. Appendix carry is a violation of rule #2 by definition. I have been teaching firearms for 43+years, and am a retired Federal Officer. It might be fine for you, but for me, I'll follow the good Colonel's universal Rules. No problem with concealment over very many years. I choose OWB as well. Good luck my friend... Hammer. USAF SSgt; US Army CW4/SrAviator; INS/ICE/CBP, ret.
@@Opachki69420 when did the femoral artery move to the rear? Look, I've been shot. I've taken people a gun point. I been to the dark place, and Murphy rides on each of my shoulders. I do what I do, the way that I do, for longer than you've been able to talk. I have nothing to prove. And I try not to cause problems for others. And you? Hammer
Another good practice is placing your thumb behind the hammer when holstering. On striker-fired guns, I think you can place your thumb behind the slide, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
It's fine for standing but, Sit down and tell me where the muzzle of the gun is pointing. *Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy.*
If LEO or Military lay prone to shoot rifle, does the pistol in their drop leg holster point at people behind them or their own leg? If your pistol is secured at the 3'o'clock in your holster does the muzzle ever point at your butt cheek? Do you bend over and "point the gun" at someone's feet behind you? This concept has been around a while fellas. The universal gun handling rules apply to gun handling. If the weapon is properly secured in a good holster it is no longer being handled. I appreciate the dialog. 🤙
For me carrying AIWB while I am outside of my home. when I am outside I am usually utilizing my power wheelchair. re-holstering for me is difficult but, I have found that if I remove my JM4 holster works best . then re-holster it is much safer, then I put gun and holster in my AIWB position . only problem I have is over the years my stomach has gotten bigger.
This comment is so silly. You’re wheelchair bound and think that carrying will save your life. If you can’t be mobile with a gun, you won’t win any gunfight, your life is in other peoples’ hands. You carrying is pointless, but if it mentally gives you some semblance of the perception of control, then I don’t blame you.
@@timjacob1397 well your comment is pointless because I have saved mine and my wife's life already once. its not about having control it is about living my life.
i don't see why 12 o'clock carry is hardly if ever mentioned. at 1 or 2 o'clock it digs right into the leg if crouched or seated, and the grip sticks out more than 12 o'clock. carrying it dead center does point it more directly at the jewels, but carried towards to the side it can point through the femoral artery. can anyone explain?
Thanks for the comment. If 12 works for your and you are OK with the increased risk/safety issues, then no worries. 1-2 works best for most people for concealment and comfort when worn low in the belt line. It is also much safer, as there is never a time during the holster and draw process that you are handling the gun and pointing it at yourself (of course this has to be done with the correct technique and the correct holster/belt combo).
I’m confident enough for appendix carry but I’m also understanding that in a high stress and real life threat high stakes situation I want to limit potential risks. I imagine literally fighting over my gun or ‘wrestling’ with a stronger higher skilled attacker and my gun is already pointed at a major artery, my testicles and Man Trunk, and femur bone. Can you train and condition yourself to minimize this yes. Do you want to risk this if Jason Bourne walks up to you and wants it? Carry however your comfortable but also be real. If you were taking a gun from your clones appendix carry position how would you do it?
Just a personal anecdote, but I grapple and train BJJ and incorporate blue guns all the time. I generally have more success retaining in the appendix position.
Is it safe to keep your firearm in the holster while putting it in and taking it out of your wasteband? Today was my first practice run carrying an unloaded firearm arm appendix, never took it out of the holster.
Yes, so long as you have a quality holster. Though, it is obviously safer to put the holster on first then holster the firearm, unless you are taking it off. When I remove my gun I always leave it in the holster and take the whole thing off my belt.
Great question. As stated above, if it's in a good holster, it's totally safe. It's our primary way of putting it in and taking it out. It's nice to use the palm of your hand against the side of the gun for leverage when manipulating the clips. 🤙
No reason to ever rush the reholster process. Putting your gun away means all threats are accounted for
Better to be deliberate than rush
Unless the guy hits the deck just as you hear police sirens! Put that shit away before they drill you! Dropping it on the floor just buggers the finish and they might swipe it even if they don't shoot you. Once they have it they'll never give it back to you--you're now out a gun even if the judge decides it's legit self-defense.
Speaking of rush. From the camera angle it appears the shooter at :31 seconds was amazingly quick to have finger on trigger. @@tenicorusa
@@slhenorth7002 That's USPSA GM Mark Smith. He's fast.
@@devilsoffspring5519I don’t think that would happen in most cases
"Rules only matter if they change behavior" is a great line in many areas of life.
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@@tenicorusa for me dude, I find carrying on my waist to be the easiest and most convenient when using both semi-auto handguns and revolvers (and this depends on both clothing and holsters being used)
Rule 1: Dont point it at anything youre not willing to destroy. Aka YOUR NARDS
Still a good and informative video tho
when I was taking my CCW class my instructor said "if you take your gun out the world already knows you have it, so take all the time in the world to put that gun back" in 22 years of training he had one injury and guess when it was? yep, when someone was holstering their gun at the end of class.
I always wondered if these instructors ever have it in their minds about this. Its pretty risky to go in front of new gun owners with loaded weapons to teach them I think but I guess 22 years and only 1 accident is a good sign!
Amazing. I got it
Reminds me of all the times you hear about the police shooting a CCW holder who just stopped a mass casualty event. Because he kept his piece visible for too long.
@@PanarchyTheater Have a link or something to an example?
@@PanarchyTheaterwhen did this happen? 😂😂😂
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One of the best appendix carry videos I've seen yet. So much fear mongering from people that still wonder why we choose to carry a round in the chamber. Your lesson concretes my confidence in continuing to carry appendix.
This entire story and information from 2:30 - 3:34 absolutely hit home with me and will forever change the way I handle firearms. Being American and living with my gun owning grandfather, I naturally learned firearm safety. Now that I am an adult and new gun owner, I have definitely had this sense of "guns I know are unloaded are 100% safe", and from this point forward will never think the same. Thank you, sir.
As a fat guy, appendix forces me to lose weight
I heard a marine say once, "your greatest weapon is your fitness." And I'm too heavy and guilty as well, but we spend so much time picking guns and ammo and holster we don't think about the simple. Would I be fast enough to run away if needed or strong enough if the fight got close. A good weapon needs to be maintained, men. You need to be a weapon.
Get the Fat guy holster from jx tactical !!
@@truecross4090Amen! Been hitting the gym M-W-F every week this year and although the scale hasn't moved, I feel strong and confident. At 5'10 and 275, I'm proud of my twelve minute mile 😅 gotta train with my weapons.
Carnivore Diet for the win 🏆 One Meal a day. Tons of videos in TH-cam... Exercise for strength 💪 fitness... Gotta change diet for weight loss...
or you can just open carry lmao
Finally. Someone made a dedicated video on this that’s actually good
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@@tenicorusaI've carried concealed for over FIFTY years & I've never shot myself because largely because I don't deliberately point a loaded pistol at my testicles &/or femoral arteries...
News flash...all the practice in the World won't make you bulletproof or immune to accidents.
Here's an idea, don't change the factory-installed springs and sears if you're gonna carry with one in the pipe. That will keep your junk safer.
reading that makes me like my 7lb trigger even more lol
Here’s another idea. Don’t carry one in the chamber. With training you can rack the slide in the same time it takes you to point and shoot.
@@Edward55221absolute horse-hockey but alright
how do you do that on a self assembled lower? lol.
been carrying overwatch precision appendix in a p80 lower appendix for 2 years already no issues. definitely tested it a bunch before but with a glock trigger, it needs to be pulled to fully load the striker spring so nothing can happen even if there is some internal malfunction that drops the sear.
@@Edward55221 if you're going to do that then it's better to not carry than having someone get the jump on you and remove your gun for the use of criminals.
1. Deliberate movements
2. Trigger/ finger discipline
3. Remove holster, reholster, secure holstered weapon in ur appendix carry position
Those r the 3 things I do to ensure my safety. I carry appendix everywhere I go, even if it’s just for a late night drive with no destination
I don’t carry, and was wondering why you wouldn’t just remove the holster. Seems like by far the safest way.
@@ProffesorChaosesFile i now am able to carry and am a little intimidated by that. Think i will do this as well and with everything else in the video im not worried anymore
@@xeeda2259 How's it been a month later, you get comfortable enough to appendix in public yet or still training?
100% pull holster to reholster.
Thank you for such a transparent discussion. We need more of this in the community. I felt exactly as you described when carrying. It was all I could think about. My wife is grabbing steaks and asking me what else is on the grocery list and all I can think about is I have a loaded gun on me in public. Very reassuring to know others feel the same way. It is an incredible responsibility that should be taken with the utmost seriousness.
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@@tenicorusa Absolutely. Not sure how you feel about it but a video of the pros and cons of open carry vs conceal might be a good one. Personally I'm against open carry and don't like seeing guys flexing in public like it's the wild West. Don't really have any positives to say about it other than slightly faster access. Would like to know your thoughts.
It's almost like if you don't pull the trigger... the gun won't go off (well SOME guns might.. lol). The fear of appendix carry comes from lack of training and lack of confidence in yourself to safely manipulate the firearm from that position.
Unless it’s a Sig p320
@@papichulo1577 That's why I had to make a little disclaimer lol
It smashed my hotdog so bad.
I’ll carry appendix maybe around 5% of the time, if at all. There’s this universal rule. Never point a gun at anything you don’t want to destroy.
For some reason, we carved out an exception for the most vital part of the human body. I’m not exactly sure why that is, but there are many variables for what can happen. And malfunctions are still part of that equation. And it only takes one incident to ruin your life permanently.
Just imagine, you have a gun so you and your family can be safe, and the very tool that’s supposed to keep you safe is the one that makes you unsafe.
Doesn’t make much sense to me. So, my rule of thumb is, 1 in the chamber… 4-5 o’clock carry 95% of the time. If my gun ever malfunctioned, I’ll have a bad week and perhaps a small surgery. If your gun malfunctions at appendix, it could change your life completely.
And no one is going to take responsibility for what happened to you after it happens, especially the manufacturer.
Ah hmm sig ah hmm
Rule #1 as a gun owner THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED EVEN WHEN ITS NOT
Not when the mags out and the bolts back and chamber clear
Unless it’s an open bolt fire arm then it would be mag out bolt closed
Thanks dad.
@@chrism1586what an ignorant comment
That's the exact same saying when I have to check a diaper
For me, a small guy, appendix carry is the best choice for a simple reason. I never have to worry about the grip printing when I’m seated or bending over. It’s also way more comfortable when seated.
That is the case for a lot of folks. Thanks for watching
Agreed, I'm a larger guy and with AIWB I EDC a Beretta M9A4 with a Surefire X300U in a T-Rex Sidecar. Doesn't print, isn't uncomfortable at all.
Isn't it uncomfortable to carry appendix when sitting down?
@@tomcat1555 depends on a lot of things, holster setup, body type, size of the firearm. But when it's set up right it's perfectly comfortable.
@@tomcat1555 once you get the ride height correct it’s fine. Im a 5’7” manlet so I can do it with a G19 but no big flashlight or else it gets real uncomfortable
Another excellent video covering every aspect of concealed carry in a thorough and easy to understand way. I especially liked the re-holstering tutorial. I have never seen that explained so well. Sharing this video.
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I'd like to thank you for the levity at 6:25, and an informational video altogether.
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I was so locked in by this point in the video. That pic completely wiped me out 😂😂
Approaching 50 years of carry. I was a NRA LEO Firearms Instructor before I trusted myself enough to go appendix carry. In competition it was natural. Now it's all automatic and muscle memory. In a Patrol car it could be very difficult to draw from the seated position. We did not have the appendix carry as an option. Listening to you I sound like I am listening to one of my lectures. Great job Brother and Thank you for your service.
Beware of FBI style jacket wind cords and cinching knobs when reholstering!
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50 years of not carrying. Never felt the need to, never heard of anyone that felt the need.
But I'm European, so I can't relate to constantly feeling threatened by everyone you meet.
@@nilov71if Johanna Blanes would have had a means to defend herself should wouldn’t have been graped and murdered by that Syrian refugee in France. The saying goes “better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it”. You’re more than free to pretend bad people don’t exist it’s all good.
@nilov71 you never worked in Law Enforcement either I bet!
@stevesweeney7892 No, I haven't...
Tessa Booth has a video and demonstrates pivoting your hips forward and moving your torso backwards when reholstering to get any part of body out of the way of muzzle.
Its what I do when reholstering from AIWB.
Changing your body position when reholstering is a good practice 👍
Mas Ayoob has a similar video.
A few weeks ago, a retired us forces dude shot his balls off in the next bay to me in the outdoor shooting range. He was practicing draw from aiwb holster with p229, I think. He miricaly lived. The guy was experienced for sure, and those accidents do happen to the best of us.
It made me very uneasy to carry my p320xc aiwb and especially with all those "discharged while holstered" news. I will probably switch to the hammer fired decocker ver pistol soon.
I spend most of my shooting time competing in uspsa, but now I dedicate a few sessions a month (maybe 500rds) to practice my live fire appendix draw.
My advice to all, no matter how much experience you think you have, don't get too comfortable, stay sharp. Do daily dryfire before holstering.
Whew, that’s just nuts. Prayers to that dude.
@@wyesolsirius4947nuts lol
I just don't understand why would a person need to holster their gun while their holster is on their belt in the appendix carry. I get into the habit of removing my holster, holstering the gun away from me, then putting my holster back on my belt. Of course, it's more time consuming, but I never have to worry about hurting Ole' Charlie.
I prefer to carry outside the waist at 3:00. Sometimes based on clothing that is not possible and I appendix carry. My draw is smooth and fluid from either position and slightly faster from appendix. No issues drawing from appendix but, I personally will remove the holster and insert the gun as one unit. Do I have to? No but, I see no reason to be in a hurry to reholster.
I am with you on OWB. I just find any form of IWB very uncomfortable, even with my G42. I do live in an open carry State so I am not concerned about printing from a legal standpoint but people are overly concerned people might notice. It is my experience that 75%+ of the population won't notice an openly carried pistol let alone one that is covered but prints a little bit.
@johnshepherd9676 That is about the same for me. I have found for me appendix carry is comfortable or more comfortable with Micros but, it wasn't until I got the Kore Essentials belt. When I carry appendix my holster is about 1:00 to 1:30. The Kore belt causes a slight stand off at the buckle. Unlike most guys that carry appendix I keep my buckle in the front but pulled over to about 11:00. That has made all of the difference in the world to me.
If it works for you that’s great. For me anything IWB is just not comfortable. I carry, and have for over 40 years, OWB at 3-4 o clock I can draw and re holster without looking with slow deliberate movement the gun slides back in the holster. I don’t care what works for others, what I do mind is going to a training and having someone demand I change what has worked for me because they were a super operator with PDC agency. There is more than one way to safely carry a firearm.
@@takedeadaim8671 I agree 100% carry the way you like.
@@UncleDanBand64 Everything you said, I do. From where I keep my buckle to taking out my holster from my belt to holster my gun. I am happy that smart minds think alike.
I appreciate framing it as a more mature mindset being needed. I know people who at minute one of learning how to handle and shoot firearms likely had the maturity to handle safe practices around AIWB, and I also know folks who've been around guns their whole lives that I absolutely don't trust with that. I think you can crawl-walk-run those sorts of people into AIWB, but it takes active change from them to make that happen.
Well said
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I mostly carry IWB at the 4 o-clock position. But if I’m not wearing a jacket or sweatshirt I carry appendix just cause it’s more concealable. 4pm is easily the most comfortable area to carry but comes with a lot of risks with printing and someone grabbing your gun.
How many reports have you seen, read or heard about where the bad guy saw the imprint of a weapon and grabbed it? Pretty hard to do if you're aware of your surroundings, and have your shirt covering the weapon. They would have to pull your shirt up and then grab your weapon without you knowing or fighting back...Pretty hard to do.
what does printing mean in this context?
@@sjagain I actually saw that in a video. Yes, you should ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings... but there will be times you WILL lose focus. There are sooo many things that occurs in your life that it is impossible to remain focus on one though all day long. That is what happened to the guy in the video. He went to talk to really quickly ask the clerk at the register for information when out of no where, a guy comes to his back an in lightning speed, picks up his shirt and removes his gun and runs off. It happened in seconds. I guess the guy noticed the printed gun. Of course, this happened in a place that was not safe, but it just comes to show that when you feel safe, you may lose focus. By carrying it appendix, I never have to worry about getting my gun taken away from me.
Great video explanation of appendix carry. I started off Carrying 3 o'clock then because of printing and just figuring out it is way better to carry appendix I started carrying CZ decockers. Now I carry 365s appendix which was kinda scarry at first but you just need to use a good holster and reholster looking it in very carefully. For anyone who wants an extra failsafe and you don't mind carrying a larger more Glock 19 size pistol buy a CZ double action decocker like the P-07, P-01, or a Shadow 2 compact, these give you an extra level of saftey with the longer double action pull as well as being able to keep your thumb over the hammer when reholstering. With your thumb over the hammer you will feel if anything catches the trigger.
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1. Use the proper holster for your firearm
2. When placing your firearm into the holster, make sure it is properly seated
3. Keep your finger off of the trigger
4. Don't aim it at anything you don't want dead or destroyed
5. If you have to use your firearm, know that whatever is behind what you are about to shoot will also possibly die or get destroyed.
How much more simple do you need it??
Are you ignoring #4? Many people on YT will either ignore, deny or lie about every FACT they simply don't like.
@@benfranklin5335 I have read the babbling riddles of the truly insane, but I have never had even a thought to live by their words. Unlike the 10 commandments, I can easily prove that guns exist, and eventually a day will come where if you have a gun and don't follow those rules, a boom will be heard, someone will die and/or something will be destroyed. I think if people would stop with the PC foolishness of not wanting to offend or hurt feelings, and make them view bodies and the destruction of what bullets do, let them puke a few times...I think it would make people see reality.
@@benfranklin5335 I'm confused....are you saying most people cannot follow simple rules or that the 5 rules are outdated?
And appendix carry violates #4 and arguably #2 and #5 because it is pointed at oneself during holstering, during carry, and during a (possibly stressful) draw.
@@DA-rm5bhthis is what it looks like when thinking scares you
I wear a compression shirt under the t shirt/polo shirt . No chance of shirt getting caught between gun and holster during reholstering .
A good undershirt helps a lot. Thanks for watching.
It helps when you have a little stomach too lol
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen this instructor really gets it i also have been carrying appendix for over 32 years and every single thing that this instructor has said was absolutely true I also am a Certified Master Firearms Instructor i was so impressed with the knowledge of this instructor I’m going to also incorporate certain things from his videos to my own advanced Students Hey brother keep up the good work making Great Learning And Teaching videos their only a few instructors who really care about students learning Quality Training Concepts Thank God for people who care the industry of Firearms Training regimes ⭕️⭕️⭕️
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I don't have my appendix anymore, this type of language is very hurtful (LOL)
lol you beat me to it!!! 😂😂😂
I've been appendix carrying and training since 2007 with a cloth uncle Mike's holster and haven't shot myself in the stones yet.
I do really feel like I need a holster upgrade though
You definitely need a new holster dude
@brendanireland5561 I really do.
That old holster wanted to die years ago
Why don't you just remove the holster from your belt to holster your weapon? I don't see any scenario where you would need to holster your gun while the holster is on your belt. Yes, it is more time consuming... but I guess it is better to be safe than sorry.
I carry a gen 1 p320 apendix 12 o'clock just to keep me on edge
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The rush you must feel has got to be INCREDIBLE 😂
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Pretty BALLSY
A 1911 style gun with a thumb safety and a grip safety helps.
Don’t need either if you’re keeping the trigger guard clear. If your gun goes off without the trigger being pulled, why are you carrying it?
@@TecnoTyler
Tyler, @luigisavoia is correct. . . ☆
Thanks for an informative video! Being new to concealed carry, I'd never really thought about the reholstering procedure.
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Next video title: How I shot myself after 20+ years carrying appendix
The risk is never 0%. 😂
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I found that appendix carry works the best for me for all of the reasons you mentioned. It's also the most comfortable carry method for me. I love my Glock 19s and other striker fired guns, but I carry a CZ-P07, a DA/SA gun with a decocker. The DA trigger pull is about 9 lbs, the SA pull is about 4 lbs. I carry it with a round in the chamber, decocked. When I holster the gun it is decocked and my thumb is on the back of the hammer while holstering.
I only carry appendix, i know it's not going to go off but i feel phantom pains in my leg when im carrying sometimes, but overall imo it's the safest bc us appendix advocates are trained to be safe while holstering, we make sure our garment is absolutely cleared and we walk our firearm into the holster. I've seen some people get into a hurry to shove it the holster really fast and it gives me the spooks 😂. Safety depends on the person 🙂
How long you been doing it. How does one get into it. The fear as a newbie it scares me. I don't want to lose my junk 😂
I do not see any scenario where you need to holster your firearm in the holster while it is on your belt in appendix carry. I take away my holster from my belt, holster facing in a safe direction, then put the holster back on my belt. Yes, it is more time consuming, but I will never have to worry my good old trusted friend that have satisfied me oh so many times, by one stupid accident. There is a reason it's called an accident. It may never happen, but when it does, you will wish you didn't take the risk in the first place.
@@houseofhas9355 first you need to understand firearms don't go off by themselves. Learn all the internals that make the gun safe and watch a video on it. Our minds can expect the worst when it comes to doing something we are unfamiliar with such as fear of failure, accidents, you can't let fear control you. Trust me, it may take awhile to get over the fears of carrying appendix, but during that time pray to God, practice and go by sheer faith. It's safe, some may say it's reckless, just don't get to comfortable and be negligent, Jesus loves you and stay safe.
@@joer8386the gun won’t go off by itself especially a glock which is what i carry. every “accidental” shooting is more of a negligent one; shitty holster, finger near the trigger, ect. if you’re careful and watch the gun go in and out you’ll never shoot yourself
@@seawaterr I do not disagree with you. These accidents especially occur in high stress scenarios like I've been in. It's better to be safe than sorry. Even the gun's community most sacred safety rule, which is, "Do not point your gun at anything you do not intend to shoot" says it better than I could. You yourself named two potentials, and that's two too many.
There's an interesting holster that's been out for a while now called the MIC holster. It snaps over the trigger guard and permits what you might call "Mexican carry" or "appendix carry" depending how you look at it. It also allows (in fact it demands) you to reholster off your body before putting the firearm back in place.
“…25yrs ago when I first started carrying a…SMG as a 5yo…” Nice insert😂👍🏾
He's actually super old. It's those Asian genes that makes him look young.
@@tenicorusa 😂😜
I carry appendix and almost always holster the firearm out of my pants and then stick the whole thing on my waistband instead of holstering in the waistband to really eliminate the chance of errors.
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Exactly what I do I refuse to holster appendix while it's on me
Me too
So seriously, when you go to the range to practice your live fire draw from concealment do you take the holster out every single time to reholster?
@@TheRange7 no you dingle I holster it like normal because that's simulating a real life situation, and i always look it into the holster for an added layer of safety. There's no reason to add unnecessary risk by holstering it like I'm at the range every morning when I strap it on.
This is the way I have always carried, most comfortable and best access….love it
These informative videos are wonderful, keep it up. Love my Malus sol and zero belt
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I always remove the holster from my waist to reholster.
I'm new to conceal carry an will start doing that as well lol
very knowledgeable former officer/instructors that helps me learn more confidently on my CC and the laws needed to abide by to not just carry but be a responsible individual around others as a civilian
First rule of thumb...keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to fire. Second rule before you reholster put the safety on.
Everyone is an expert. Me too. With the proper clips, it's easy to take your holster off, point downrange and re-holster, then put the holster back on. Easy and quick to do!
This is why I prefer DA / SA when appendix carrying. Thumb on the hammer during reholster.
Excellent video! Clear, no BS, solid information. Great work
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You have to practice holstering, certainly. But, in my experience in several years of appendix carry, in daily usage you may not have to take that risk, you just put your holster in your belt with your gun already holstered. And at the end of the day, you took your holster from your belt with your gun in it (unless you need to use your gun during the day, which is very rare to occur).
I'm definitely doing this. No need to play "Quick Draw McGraw" and run the risk of an accident.
Agreed. I NEVER remove my gun from the holster unless I’m firing it or cleaning it.
OMG! I wrote this exact comment in a previous post. I wrote:
"I just don't understand why would a person need to holster their gun while their holster is on their belt in the appendix carry. I get into the habit of removing my holster, holstering the gun away from me, then putting my holster back on my belt. Of course, it's more time consuming, but I never have to worry about hurting Ole' Charlie."
a really good point i heard recently about carrying is that you do NOT need to re holster quicky. ever. if you are holstering your gun then there is no threat, there is no rush. whatever rush there may have been must be over if youre putting your gun away. so its ok to take your time and do it safely.
Agreed. No threat, no reason to rush.
Then, take the holster from your belt and then draw. You can then put the holster on your belt with the gun already inserted without any worries in the world.
Been waiting on a video like this🙌🏾
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I personally just appendix carry safety off, empty chamber. Sure it's minimally slower to be ready since you have to cycle it but it's pretty much guaranteed safe while carrying even against some freak accident that somehow has a double action trigger pull happening while holstered.
Carrying on an empty chamber is usually not a good idea. If you need that firearm in a split second, there’s a lot that can wrong with chambering a round in tight spaces or under stress. I’m of the persuasion that everybody should do what makes them comfortable, but just realize virtually nobody who’s carried firearms professionally who realizes how fast these situations unfolds recommends it out in the real world.
This guy knows his stuff! Great vid
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Very good class. I have your Appendix Holster and favor the plastic straps to secure it, you are one of the few that make them available. Price on this item is selling point and its function. Good work.
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6:23 mark! Hysterical 😂😂😂😂 Way to insert a moment of levity into such a serious video. Okay……back to the video.
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My one big issue concerning appendix carry is how do you sit down without your weapon digging into you? I carry a 1911 G.I. with the 5" barrel and I think that I'd have a very hard time trying to sit down without it digging into my various body parts. My current carry position is forward of my hip at about the 10:00 o'clock position. I find that my pistol is actually pointing away from my hip due to the angle of my holster yet I can still reach my weapon without any major issues. Many thanks for a great video as it is very informative and it goes into great detail of the plus and minus' of the different carry positions.
What I do is I invested in a nice ratcheting style tactical belt, it’s super easy to adjust it a couple clicks in either direction loosening or tightening it and it’s got minimal buckles etc for carrying specifically. When I get into the car, I loosen the ratchet system a couple clicks and just slide my pants up a couple inches, get situated and I’m ready to go. Then before I exit my car I lift my hips up slightly, lower my waistband back down to its normal position and tighten the ratchet system a couple clicks again and I’m ready to go. It lifts the entire waistband up to where it’s not digging into your thigh or manhood anymore while driving, and I drive in a very upright seat position due to lower back problems so this is even more effective if you don’t sit in that high of a seating position when driving.
@@MrTdogg175 that's good to know.
I forget which instructor it was but he suggested never reholster while in the belt. Pull the holster. Reholster weapon. Then put rig back in belt. I like that way best.
I do the same every morning! Seems almost bulletproof safety as long as following other basic rules.
If your gun has a safety but you don't use it normally, it can still be used when holstering, then switched off.
Retired LEO and was trained that way for our off duty carry. Always holstered after removing the holster from the waistband
Not taking my pants off to reholster my gun. Maybe don't carry if you're that paranoid.
@@wadewilson6628 noone said take your pants off. It was take holster out. Insert gun. Hook on belt for appendix
I am too fat to carry appendix safely with a re-holster practice. I do have a TXC appendix holster that I use with the NEOMAG Alias system that allows me to remove the holster easily from my waistline, re-holster my pistol and then put the holster back in my waistline. That is the only way I re-holster my pistol while carrying appendix. I have never come close to shooting myself with this method. Does it slow down training exercises? Sure does! However, it reduces my chances of accidently shooting myself greatly.
“Feels more dangerous than it actually is” should be replaced with “feels AS dangerous AS it actually is”
But it's not dangerous if you do it properly.. thats the whole point of the video
This is new news to me about carrying appendix between 10:30-1:30 positions. I find it most comfortable to carry appendix at noon position. Anything wrong with that technique? I understand most guys can't carry at noon comfortably because they are fat/have bellies, but I've taken care of my health and fitness and have a flat, lean stomach.
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Thanks for another great informational vid Jeff!
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At 5’11” 215, I don’t have much of a gut but I’m also not ripped. I have a Tenicor paired with a shield plus. I’ve followed all the instructions and tips and tricks regarding placement and comfort for appendix carry. Tried the pencil method. Tried higher, lower, moving it from straight-up 12 o’clock to 2:30 in small increments. Wedges and no wedge, pillow and mo pillow. Nothing works. Simply can’t get comfortable.
At 3:30/4 o’clock the comfort level is fantastic. That’s how I carry. I respect and understand everything said in this video and others about AIWB. And I kinda wish I had the option and that it was comfortable. But it’s not. So for anyone out there reading this who has gone through everything I have, tried many holsters micro adjusted at virtually every position, there’s no shame in putting up your hands and saying “AIWB just doesn’t work for me”.
Outstanding video! As a retired LEO, I still carry at about 4 o'clock because of gun retention training and habit. I really like the idea of caring cross-draw.
Thanks for the support!
One thing that I noticed about reholstering, and the holster used is... to avoid any accident, remove the holster from your waistband, reholster the firearm, and place the holster firearm, back in your waistband.. springclip retention, shouldn't be too hard, and much safer
I have carried appendix for 40 years with no problems, great when setting at a desk or at a movie.
I really benefited from this video.the guy is well versed on it.thank you so much
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New to the channel here. Loving the content and style/editing of the videos. Thank you for all your helpful opinions and guidance on these topics. Keep up the good work! 💪🏻
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I have see negligent discharges in multiple carrying positions and on the hip they took a round to the thigh i have seen NDs at appendix where the got lucky and only lost a pair of pants
bro why is 5:10 say mostly replayed lmaooo
Someone educate me…wtf is 10:30 and 1:30 positions?
General clock positions on what we consider to be proper appendix positions. We're not trying to start a trend. 😂
Gotta make a holster for CZs
We might at some point. No timeline right now though.
I carry a kydex inside the waistband at 2 o'clock and there's no urgency in reholstering so normally I transfer the weapon to my off hand, pop my holster out of my waistband, reholster my weapon, then reinstall my holster.
I think most people that I know that carry appendix does it this way. I ALWAYS take out my holster. Holstering means that the threat has been eliminated or you are finished shooting and it is safe. Therefore, there is no rush to holster with the holster on your belt.
I’ve always thought about how shoulder holsters are just flagging everyone behind you. Probably completely fine unless you’re carrying a first gen p320.
That's why you would want a vertical shoulder holster. It also makes your gun seem smaller and is even less visible under your arm. It still carries the concern of shooting yourself, but that's why you should never be in a hurry to re-holster it. There's a whole video on shoulder holsters here, on TH-cam.
Why should I care about people behind me?
I conceal carry and I use the appendix style because holstering from the hip hurts my back. I find using that style is very comfortable and most of the time you forget its even there.
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Appendix carry just reminds me of how much weight I need to lose
If you train it is safe. Holster cautiously, slowly and make sure nothing is in the holster. Never had an issue and like AIWB when driving etc.
Question for the doubters: how do you get a clean shirt pull to get it out of the way of your grip when your holstering from 3-6 o' clock? you don't lol. You (probably) lean forward to expose your grip and get your hand on it, or use the same hand you'll use to draw to first pick up your shirt or jacket THEN draw. And that's not at all considering how much people print when they carry on their hip, I've yet to see someone able to totally conceal while doing things like sitting or bending over with a hip carry, at least not in a way they can reliable draw. Appendix carry? World record draw to shot times. P.s. great job mentioning the REHOLSTERING process, I have no real data to back it up but I’m pretty sure that's how most of these accidents happen..
Ahhhhhh, see there's your problem. You think we care what the dickshooter crowd says.
When drawing from a horizontal shoulder holster you flag the non shooting arm unless you raise and tuck. Same issue with a major artery at risk but more people have issues with a weapon pointed at their junk. Know the dangers in the method of your carry and minimize the risks by training.
I find that people who carry appendix often times invent a lot of stuff to justify it. It's not that I don't think there are reasons to do it. For instance, I do think it leads to a faster draw. I also think it can be very comfortable sometimes.
That being said, it's also super dangerous. Like, WAY more dangerous than other carry methods. I can carry in my shoulder holster, on my hip, in a pocket, and NEVER point the gun at myself during the entire time. maybe when it's in holster it will flash me but I'm never holding the gun and aiming it at myself when holstering or drawing. At most you can say that I'm maybe coming close at times but there is a massive difference between holstering into my shoulder holster or on my hip and holstering into the front of my waistband. I think anyone who suggests otherwise is either dishonest or being silly.
Also, guns in a holster aren't secure. We shouldn't pretend like they are. Modern guns fail. Holsters fail. Safeties fail. Kids reach their fingers into shit... I'd rather them fail with minimal damage to myself and my surroundings. Relying on the safety of the holster to protect you, seems like a flawed way to think. Yes, when holstered and in a prone position, I'm pointing the gun backwards. Yup... That happens and some of that is unpreventable and is always going to be a concern.. That doesn't mean you don't minimize the risk. I've seen multiple examples of guns going off in a delayed fashion. Pulling the trigger, nothing happens, and then all of a sudden BOOM! Gun goes off.
All it takes is one trigger press with no click and no bang and then someone's dumb ass puts the gun back into the holster and.... Well.... Loses their junk or their life.
On top of that, there are multiple videos of p320's firing themselves. Guns firing from bumps or drops and people making dumb adjustments to their triggers and making them not safe anymore.
I don't want to be a statistic because I didn't avoid something that was incredibly avoidable. In fact, I refused to carry a gun for a good amount of time. You carried for 25 years? Well, I refused to carry for 10 before I felt like I could do it safely. Maybe it's because I've seen enough gore videos to know what happens when that one little thing goes wrong that you didn't plan for or planned around it never happening...
Carrying appendix is not unsafe at all
@@Cameron-mw5cr If you believe that please stop carrying a gun. Carrying a gun in any fashion is unsafe. Its how we mitigate those risks that keeps accidents from happening.
Thanks for the well crafted response. Sums up my feelings as well.
@@wadewilson6628 “carrying a gun in any fashion is unsafe” no it’s not, as long as you have a proper holster it’s completely safe .
Thank you for this informative video. I was sold on appendix carry a while back when i bought my first CCW gun; however, I couldn't get it to work for me; can't sit down with it, uncomfortable to even walk. Am i doing it wrong??
It's typically a holster design issue or a fitment issue. We'll have a video soon on how to best adjust your holster for comfort as it can be a little tricky.
Totally safe as long as you’re not carrying a sig
as a P226 mk25 owner, i agree 95%😂
Sig 320?
What's bad about the Sig other than no trigger safety?
Wasn't it the 320s that had a problem. Haven't heard of any problems like that with the 365s
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If I ever do have to reholster in appendix, it'll be because I've used the handgun in self defense. Otherwise, the gun is in the holster when the holster goes onto my belt. Gun comes out of the holster for the night stand, then back in the holster before I put it on my belt for carry the following morning.
0:32 intro clip shows finger on trigger pointing at femoral artery in appendix draw
Depends on where the leg is (out of frame). And that finger isn't on the trigger at 0:32...
Very false
Very professional explanation, instantly subscribed. I think another good idea is to maybe consider a gun double action triggered, exposed hammer gun with a decocking lever like a Beretta 90 series or SIG P220 series as well as some of the CZ or HK double action pistols.
I hear all this same stuff about pocket carrying. I've been pocket carrying for 11 years. No issues.
Pocket carry is safer in my opinion with good kydex holster, it eliminates the re-holster process.
Great content. I carry a 43X appendix in a Certum3 with a Zero belt. Just slapped on a foam wedge and good to go. Very comfortable and secure. Excellent combo, completely disappears wearing a normal fit T-shirt. Sometimes I’ll switch it out with a standard Kore Belt, but that’s about it.
Thanks!
For the small advantages, I don’t think it’s worth the risk it presents every time you draw and reholster
Yep. I'd rather take off a piece of my buttcheek than my junk. Why anyone flag their family jewels on purpose escapes me.
@@Dan.50because it’s completely safe and a comfortable way to carry for some people especially with larger firearms ?
When reholstering you also want to visually verify there is no debris such as a spent casing inside the holster that will cause a negligent discharge...
Gear info, thank you sir.
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No matter how safe the holster, or holstering process. It's still breaking one of the 4 major rules of gun safety. "Never point the muzzle at anything that you are not willing to destroy." So for that reason, I will not appendix carry.
Okay idiot
@@BradleyHurt-i9h If you're constantly pointing a gun at your wiener you're stupid. You like it that's fine. Everybody's got their own opinion. I happen to think appendix carry is dumb. Especially with a striker fired gun with no manual safety.
I've spent most of my adult life in the military, where every weapon I've trained on had a safety. However, I recently bought a P365 and found it to be comfortable and easily accessible for appendix carry due to its high concealability. The only concern is that it doesn't have a safety, making me hesitant to keep a chambered round while carrying it in the appendix position.
Appendix is the best way to carry, but the fear is real, so I think the best way is choosing the most safe gun and training, we are human and shit happens
I posted this as my main comment, it just applies to your message
I carry a m&p m2 3.6" barrel appendix. I have the thumb safety lever. I've trained my body to not pull the trigger til drawn, and to slap my safety on the draw. I have a piece of steel blocking my trigger(the safety.) unless something pulls my trigger with enough force to snap the steel. I'm safe.
If you are scared of an impact setting of your trigger, just get one with a well placed safety. Then TRAIN with it. I spend 10 minutes everyday drawing and dryfiring with snapcaps. Being I have to move a safety to shoot you have to train your muscle memory to flip it. Appendix carry is as safe as the gunholder.
Best way for you. We all aren't shaped the same or have the same range of movement. Watch out with the blanket statements dickshooter.
Thank you great video lots of information very clear to understand and a lot of great points !!!!
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Coopers Rule #2. Appendix carry is a violation of rule #2 by definition. I have been teaching firearms for 43+years, and am a retired Federal Officer. It might be fine for you, but for me, I'll follow the good Colonel's universal Rules. No problem with concealment over very many years. I choose OWB as well. Good luck my friend... Hammer. USAF SSgt;
US Army CW4/SrAviator; INS/ICE/CBP, ret.
You do you. Hundreds of thousands of people will appendix carry safely today while you safely carry a different way.
Doesn't surprise me the fed doesn't realize he flags his femoral artery even with his OWB carry... Stay classy
@@Opachki69420 when did the femoral artery move to the rear? Look, I've been shot. I've taken people a gun point. I been to the dark place, and Murphy rides on each of my shoulders. I do what I do, the way that I do, for longer than you've been able to talk. I have nothing to prove. And I try not to cause problems for others. And you? Hammer
@@markhamersly1664 you have nothing to prove yet completely unprovoked you try and quote your entire life story. I've seen seals with smaller mouths
@@Opachki69420 My life story would be entitled "An Ordinary Life." I don't tell war stories. Mention facts, yes, but little else.
Another good practice is placing your thumb behind the hammer when holstering. On striker-fired guns, I think you can place your thumb behind the slide, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
It's fine for standing but, Sit down and tell me where the muzzle of the gun is pointing.
*Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy.*
The rules of firearms safety don't apply when it's holstered.
@@tenicorusa That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
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@@tenicorusa He's right though. The rules always apply.
If LEO or Military lay prone to shoot rifle, does the pistol in their drop leg holster point at people behind them or their own leg? If your pistol is secured at the 3'o'clock in your holster does the muzzle ever point at your butt cheek? Do you bend over and "point the gun" at someone's feet behind you? This concept has been around a while fellas. The universal gun handling rules apply to gun handling. If the weapon is properly secured in a good holster it is no longer being handled.
I appreciate the dialog. 🤙
For me carrying AIWB while I am outside of my home. when I am outside I am usually utilizing my power wheelchair. re-holstering for me is difficult but, I have found that if I remove my JM4 holster works best . then re-holster it is much safer, then I put gun and holster in my AIWB position . only problem I have is over the years my stomach has gotten bigger.
This comment is so silly. You’re wheelchair bound and think that carrying will save your life. If you can’t be mobile with a gun, you won’t win any gunfight, your life is in other peoples’ hands. You carrying is pointless, but if it mentally gives you some semblance of the perception of control, then I don’t blame you.
@@timjacob1397 well your comment is pointless because I have saved mine and my wife's life already once. its not about having control it is about living my life.
Until you have to sit down
If you have a good holster it’s not that big a deal doesn’t bother me at all
In the wise words of the flannel man, if you’re not fit, you’re gonna die
i don't see why 12 o'clock carry is hardly if ever mentioned. at 1 or 2 o'clock it digs right into the leg if crouched or seated, and the grip sticks out more than 12 o'clock. carrying it dead center does point it more directly at the jewels, but carried towards to the side it can point through the femoral artery. can anyone explain?
Thanks for the comment. If 12 works for your and you are OK with the increased risk/safety issues, then no worries.
1-2 works best for most people for concealment and comfort when worn low in the belt line. It is also much safer, as there is never a time during the holster and draw process that you are handling the gun and pointing it at yourself (of course this has to be done with the correct technique and the correct holster/belt combo).
Pocket carry is another option btw.
I’m confident enough for appendix carry but I’m also understanding that in a high stress and real life threat high stakes situation I want to limit potential risks. I imagine literally fighting over my gun or ‘wrestling’ with a stronger higher skilled attacker and my gun is already pointed at a major artery, my testicles and Man Trunk, and femur bone. Can you train and condition yourself to minimize this yes. Do you want to risk this if Jason Bourne walks up to you and wants it? Carry however your comfortable but also be real. If you were taking a gun from your clones appendix carry position how would you do it?
Just a personal anecdote, but I grapple and train BJJ and incorporate blue guns all the time. I generally have more success retaining in the appendix position.
why tf would you carry a firearm when you're in a concert
Wasn’t one of the biggest shootings in the last 10 years at a concert lmao
@@christianb8268concert, movie theater. Schools, churches, mall.
Tell me you’re rocking a room temp IQ without saying so.
Is it safe to keep your firearm in the holster while putting it in and taking it out of your wasteband? Today was my first practice run carrying an unloaded firearm arm appendix, never took it out of the holster.
Yes, so long as you have a quality holster. Though, it is obviously safer to put the holster on first then holster the firearm, unless you are taking it off. When I remove my gun I always leave it in the holster and take the whole thing off my belt.
Great question. As stated above, if it's in a good holster, it's totally safe. It's our primary way of putting it in and taking it out. It's nice to use the palm of your hand against the side of the gun for leverage when manipulating the clips. 🤙