I believe this originates from the episode entitled “deadly maneuvers” since so much wisdom derives from commentary provided by TH-cam “luminaries” perhaps it will ought to be treated as a contemporary Talmud.
So few people understand that a video about a dust pan is not a video about a dust pan. It's about learning techniques that can help you to make literally ANYTHING. Great work sir.
simple every day objects are IDEAL for learning and explaining techniques. And they're much better than if he would have made say a laser gun turret cover for a BFS-2000 alien space ship. EVERYONE knows what a dustpan is supposed to look like. So you can't hide or 'pretend' any mistakes are supposed to be there. If the dust pan has an obvious hole or bump where it's not supposed to have one everyone will see it's an error. On a gun turret cover... you could just claim just about anything. that hole is supposed to be there... that bump is there because it has the motor drive under there... For someone watching, it's also fairly immediately clear what part he's working on and how it's progressing to the expected end result. And finally, supposed you were applying for a job and as part of the interview they have asked to show of your work. With the dustpan, it's easy to get an idea of your skills because everyone knows what it's supposed to look like, and someone in that same kind of work will get an idea of how good it is and how developed your skills are... And they can ask you about how you went about making that (and get an idea if that was a good approach to the problem). Again. on the gun turret, maybe a "cooler" object to make but NOBODY knows what it's supposed to look like, so it's much more difficult to get an idea of skills and whether the methods used were the most appropriate. There is definitely a beauty and elegance in seemingly simple objects made by a very skilled person.
@David Guyton How few? Did you count them all? How do you now them all? That is amazing! Seriously though, it's not rocket science level to understand that dustpans are stamped out by a die in seconds at 1000's per day in mass production. Clearly this is about techniques for the artisan to build a great many things. As for the ANYTHING...well, I'd be impressed if one could use any of these techniques to bake a cake (not make the pan, duh!), make a fish net, bind a book, ...,etc. The list is endless of things these techniques cannot help you with. So ANYTHING? Naw, but a LOT of things.....absolutely. Sorry I just couldn't resist since you threw "facts" around like they're a dime a dozen. How few again?
It’s these type projects to help you learn techniques. This project alone has me wanting to build my own dust pan to learn more about sheet metal. Loving this build and collaboration. Thank You Ron for taking the time to share this information with us.
just lie. lie like you've never lied before. then lie again to cover the first lie. leave her wondering WTH? then she'll go back in the house. then you can be alone with your new dust pan.
Yup -- I was thinking "you know, they make 1-inch-radius roundover router bits that would do up that curve in a jiffy...." And then Ron added in the taper, and I have to admit I've never seen a router bit that would change the roundover radius from one end of the cut to the other!
Coming from TOT, I thought this would be a demonstration of a simple project. I mean ... dustpan? What I got was a tour-de-force of fabrication-techniques, elegantly and clearly presented. I really didn’t think there would be this much in terms of precision, jigs, molds and more! Your love of the craft really shine through with the skill and care you put into this. Amazing work, sir!
In the beginning my pops used to teach me in metalworks by these words. "We need a fish smoker at the cabin, go make me a stainless box with a sliding lid" gave me a rough drawing and said theres the tool and heres the metal. He just watched me, never said a word. I finished the thing and then he would point out all the mistakes. Then we made another together. Best way to learn stuff.
@@RonCovell one is lucky to have just a single life-defining teacher. I've actually had three in my life, one math teacher (best one ever), one electrical engineering/shop teacher and one in a programming class. (yes, highly beta orientated) But to this day I'm still grateful to them making the click and allowing my understanding of the world to grow beyond normal teachings. The shop and programming teachers were great, but the math teacher.... We first had a math teacher explains things for half a year, nobody got it, we just barely passed our grades. He would show the math tricks, but he didn't explain it. So we only applied the tricks from memory at the test, but we didn't get it. However next year we got the "awesome-really-great" math teacher that actually explained that half year worth of math in the space of 90 minutes. We all passed his class of advanced math with flying colors. Much like the radius trick you showed, putting theory into practice.
from a mass production standpoint, this entire pan could be stamped out of sheet stock with 2, maybe 3 dies on a press and be a finished functional product in minutes, if not seconds. From a fabrication standpoint, the skills displayed here are invaluable and a dying art. If i had to pick one youtube channel to save a copy of if the internet was shutting down tomorrow, it would be this one.
Incredible. I absolutely loved this series, and discovered you through this old Tony. You've got a new subscriber, and I'll be sure to keep watching your content.
agreed! It just makes you want to make something so beautiful. How many man hours, outside of filming, actually went into making the forms and the dust pan.
Rob, you are a genius. Not just in creating your method and the masterful way in which you implement it, but in how you teach it to us. Taking such a complicated shape and breaking down the process so simply and succinctly that it makes perfect sense while also not overloading the viewer with extraneous information takes skill and effort. From a young educator fresh out of teaching school to a practiced master, you have my appreciation and respect
#spike4972 I failed grade 11 Physics the first time because the teacher had no concept of practical application. As a former educator, I think that theory without application is just that... theory. Theory alone solves very little without being able to put it into practice. Many students need to know why something would be useful to bother to learn it. They have SO much information thrown at them at this time. Best of luck in your career.
This series has been an amazing introduction to your channel Ron. Strangely enough, I never questioned spending so much time on a dustpan, but maybe that says more about me!
I'm more of a woodworker, but there are a ton of really useful techniques I picked up from this series that I am going to incorporate into my own projects. Thank you!
I know the feeling that I got while watching. I have felt this feeling many times before. I have never before wanted to fashion my own BEAUTIFUL DUSTPAN from sheet metal, but I feel that I now must. And, knowing myself, I will. It is inevitable, because I've got that feeling again...
Ron, seeing you use those layout techniques has genuinely been an eye-opening experience. In retrospect, they are so simple and obvious, but I never in a hundred years would have thought to use any of them. That's the best kind of clever.
50 years ago you would have probably figured it out easier as the techniques were more widely known, and there were no easy crutch alternatives like CNC routers or 3d printers to make one-off press forms from CAD drawings so you would have had no choice other than to figure this stuff out. As awesome as new tech is, there is something troubling about the loss of practical hands-on skills and knowledge such as that displayed in this video.
A nail in a board. Fricken brilliant. I would have never thought of that. I'll be going back and watching all your videos. I knew you were good but you're an absolute master.
@@RonCovell this is what i love the most about discovering your channel - i don't have any room or money to get into lathe or milling work, but everything you've shown is so accessible. I'm definitely going to keep these techniques in mind.
This is excess of the best kind, it's not about expensive materials or grandiose pretentions, it's just pure skill and incredible workmanship turning boring flat metal into a true future heirloom piece through nothing but hard work, knowledge and time.
Ron, your commitment to perfection and attention to detail is second to none, truly a master craftsman. So glad This Old Tony turned me on to your channel. You have definitely earned a new subscriber!
I was introduced to your channel from the TOT handle video. Never have i had my jaw on the floor for so long for a video like this. Seeing you take basic techniques and craft a dustpan worthy of an art museum taught me what true mastery looked like. Thank you for sharing your work.
I was lucky enough to have someone like Ron as a shop teacher in HS. His craftsmanship has inspired me for almost 50 years now. He also had a pretty good sense of humor. This is gold, folks; priceless.
exactly. with these techniques the world is your oyster. A better question would be: why buy from china what you can fabricate yourself? Sure, if you just need a dustpan for cleanup you would probably pick the $2 plastic POS over this beauty. But its not about the destination, its about the journey.
Yeap, though making all those molds just to make one kinda bothers me since its kinda waste of materials. Otherwise i would do this... plus dont have alu tig to fabricate it together, then again steel would be better material anyways for this.
Mr. Covell, I'm watching this with my jaw on the floor. Your layout and planning techniques are absolutely inspired. Thank you so much for sharing with the world. Amazing practices.
I just finished watching all the videos of this series on both channels. What a great collab ! And I'm glad Tony made me discover your channel Mr. Covell. This is just the kind of stuff I like to watch :)
Man, this is great. I would never have watched 3 episodes of "how it's made" on making a dust pan, but I did enjoy all three of these videos. Thanks ToT for introducing me to this channel. You are a very passionate guy Ron. I can see it in your work quality and precision as well as your appreciation for other people work, like the way you reacted to Tony's handle!
"We're not worthy!" Beauty is where you find it. Making beautiful things, especially functional things, is a uniquely human endeavor. People like Ron and Tony make this crazy world ever more awesome with every beautiful useful thing that they make, and they're ever more noble for helping us learn to do it, too! Thank you, gentlemen! And thank you to all of the other ladies and gentlemen who make beautiful things, and make this insane world more sane, and more beautiful!!
@@RonCovell Thanks, Professor! I may be dating myself, but I've been a fan of yours since the old days of StreetRodder and Rod & Custom... I've fantasized for many years about picking up an English Wheel and taking some of your personal classes. I'm currently building a '53 Hudson Hornet with an electric drivetrain (I've been into EVs since I saw Roderick Wilde's electric Deuce in the 90s). Hammer on, Professor!
You are a craftsman. I want you to know how much I like meeting people like you in the world. People who are skilled, meticulous and won't loose their temper if you can't do what they can yet. I'm glad you made a you tube channel
Overkill? Perhaps, but these are great basic layout and fabrication tequeniqes that are hard to find, and would be great practice for any aspiring tin bender. just the reminder that tape is great way to layout lines, and distances has been worth the time. I will be spending more time here. Thanks :D
You are a true master! What's even more great is you did mostly everything with simple hand tools. The big takeaway is how much one's patience in the prep work is rewarded with an amazing finished product!
19:15 could you imagine if doctors and machinists had the same standards of clean?😂 “I’m just gonna wire brush this ur leg so it’s perfectly clean before amputation.”
Another ToT refugee here. Thank you so much for sharing your craft Ron. It makes me want to get back to my projects again. I especially liked your innovative and "traditional" geometric layout - in contrast to everything CAD these days. First principles are something we shouldn't lose sight of. You've gained another sub.
This is the best collaboration between two of the most wholesome dudes on TH-cam. I've learned a ton from both of you and the collaboration was delightful.
@@RonCovell surely you mean 'tongue and groove' there, Ron? I tried 'tongue and cheek' on timber once... couldn't sit down for days and I still have a lisp 😆 I'll see myself out...
when i was a kid growing up in the 60's our only source of information and inspiration came from hot rod magazines and occasionally from a local guru who was probably reluctant to share his secrets. aluminum was a magic metal welded with a torch by a select group of craftsmen. i can only imagine how much i could have learned in those early years had i been able to get in home tutoring (you tube) from masters like you and tony.i hope this generation of kids appreciates the opportunities available to them today.thanks ron beautiful job.and thanks tony i have followed your channel for years.
@@thersten Some people like a break from wif and kids, and aren't interesting in the local bar/pub. You listen to a lot of music, what do you hate your wife and kids?
Ron - Thank You for Sharing your Talent and Work!!! Tony said it best - " My Jaw is on the floor with what you do with metal !!! what you do seems impossible - and way outside of what I would be capable of doing" - SUBSCRIBED : ) Thanks Ron!
I know I'm 2 years late, but the amount of skill and finesse displayed here is absolutely inspirational. Thank you for recording this series, I look forward to watching more of your content!
Your comments are always welcome, even for older videos. I'm getting close to uploading the last video in my 'curvy seat' series, which is even more involved than this dustpan.
@@RonCovell ahhhh to late i already watched the whole thing. Amazing work! I came from This old Tony, but I knew I recognized the name. Definitely have a subscriber out of me, also whittled my way through previous videos while I'm here. Edit: not tonight...but when I have time haha. Must sleep.
Yes, quality work is expensive if you have to pay someone to do it. A lot of people have the skill and tools to do hammerforming. It's not really that difficult.
@@RonCovell If I was making (say) plinths for winches in the cockpit of an aluminum sailboat, out of 6mm 5154, I'm guessing I'd have to do plenty of annealing steps? And would you imagine I'd need to make a metal hammerform, if I was making (say) four plinths?
Your attention to detail is wonderful to watch. Your teaching skills are so far above anything I have ever seen, heard or watched, anyone from 8 to 80 (and beyond) would learn from you.
I have to say that it is masters like you that show how the proper application of skill and knowledge and make great things. When my truck was wrecked a young man can to cut out and weld in large sections of the cab. As the process was going on he sent us photos and in the end he blended the old, new and welds so well that even with the reference photos we are unable to tell where he actually restored the cab. I was completely amazed at the time at the craftsmenship and after seeing your work and understanding how much effort goes into that work i am even more impressed. I don't think this kind of work gets enough recognition because like the reconstructed dash, if you do it well most people will never know that it was ever restored.
That EType hood is a thing of beauty but oh my god try and ignore how long it is taking, and don't forget you have to drink a shot every time he says "flexible shape pattern".
No - CNC is not cheating. I have not delved into CNC work yet, but I'm sure I would find it a great tool for getting stuff done - especially if more than one is needed!
@@RonCovell For the one-offs in this video series, I doubt you could model and print a part half as fast as you could mark and bandsaw your bucks/forms. I mean that literally. 3D printers are fantastic, but I imagine you'd be waiting a LONG time for your form if it was printed. That rapid turnover stuff just isn't here, yet. God Bless, that's for the fantastic content.
@@RonCovell You may want to look into a gimmicky CNC handheld router called "Shapeways Origin". IT's way too expensive, too finnicky to setup, but it's actually a pretty novel 'toy' that can get some mostly 2D work done. I'm working on making a 3D Capable one that doesn't have as many gimmicks.
Thank you for imparting your knowledge, Ron! Both informative and beautiful. As for those who ask 'why don't you just buy one?': The channel is about Metalworking and Welding...not shopping and bargain hunting. Better to create than to consume!
Sometimes a dustpan is not just a dustpan. Ron, thank you very much for taking the tine to share these skills with us. This is the kind of thing that turns craftsmanship from a mystical art to an interesting challenge that more of us can attempt.
Man, what a job! That is perfection! Thanks to guys like Ron and Tony for putting up this kind of knowledge free for all! This is not just a dust pan! Perfection!
At each step if you ask your self how you'd solve that problem to make that section, and if your lucky, you'll get at least one if not more options you hadn't considered. That's learning. I wonder if those asking why a dustpan are those who aren't quite watching with actual use/making in mind. The wealth of practice, approach, and order of operations in this example is amazing. That is what makes Mr. Covell's video so special. Not just his mastery level experience as a fabricator, but more importantly as a master demonstrator and teacher. Rare in this medium and platform and greatly appreciated.
Ron, I'm 63 and been doing sheet metal working, welding, and machining since I was old enough to do so. I even built limousines at a Wisconsin company. I've been watching your videos for years and I have a book you wrote some years back. If you were making a video of how to make a garbage can I'd watch it. I have learned a lot from the book and videos so you are my mentor. I do wood work as well but metal work for me is the most fun. Thanks for all the years of instruction. Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year!
Many years ago I took some hands on courses with Ron......to say he is very talented is an understatement....he's also a great person to just hang around with and talk cars and fabrication techniques.
I am endlessly fascinated with all the "tricks" to figure things out, using basically no math. The chamfers to end up with a radius? The tape trick to figure out the size of blank? It's all just so smart! I also appreciate that hammering the metal is like 5% of the work. And paint guys think they have a lot of prep work haha.
I am so greatful for Ron taking the time to film this. The people criticizing have no idea how lucky we are to be able to see this. People like Ron are a dieing breed and its truly sad. Honestly what I feel that people need to take away from this video is that to be a true craftsman you need to have a ton of patience and attention to detail. I'm a 3rd generation metal worker and machinist and one thing my dad told me when I was young is " If you do your best on every job, It will be easy to do a good job when it counts" and this video is a perfect example of that statement.
I love it when a pan comes together!!
I suspect now there wasn't anything wrong with your old dustpan! You just wanted to make that pun!?
I believe this originates from the episode entitled “deadly maneuvers” since so much wisdom derives from commentary provided by TH-cam “luminaries” perhaps it will ought to be treated as a contemporary Talmud.
Nah, Tony just loves when his pans work out. *chewin on my cigar*
@@Si-Al-Ti
''I suspect now there wasn't anything wrong with your old dustpan!''
That dustpan may be fine for another twenty years ......hahaha...
This old dad joke 😬
So few people understand that a video about a dust pan is not a video about a dust pan. It's about learning techniques that can help you to make literally ANYTHING. Great work sir.
simple every day objects are IDEAL for learning and explaining techniques. And they're much better than if he would have made say a laser gun turret cover for a BFS-2000 alien space ship.
EVERYONE knows what a dustpan is supposed to look like. So you can't hide or 'pretend' any mistakes are supposed to be there. If the dust pan has an obvious hole or bump where it's not supposed to have one everyone will see it's an error. On a gun turret cover... you could just claim just about anything. that hole is supposed to be there... that bump is there because it has the motor drive under there...
For someone watching, it's also fairly immediately clear what part he's working on and how it's progressing to the expected end result.
And finally, supposed you were applying for a job and as part of the interview they have asked to show of your work.
With the dustpan, it's easy to get an idea of your skills because everyone knows what it's supposed to look like, and someone in that same kind of work will get an idea of how good it is and how developed your skills are... And they can ask you about how you went about making that (and get an idea if that was a good approach to the problem).
Again. on the gun turret, maybe a "cooler" object to make but NOBODY knows what it's supposed to look like, so it's much more difficult to get an idea of skills and whether the methods used were the most appropriate.
There is definitely a beauty and elegance in seemingly simple objects made by a very skilled person.
ANYTHING
Wax on... Wax off.
You don't start with the sistine chapel, for sure.
@David Guyton How few? Did you count them all? How do you now them all? That is amazing! Seriously though, it's not rocket science level to understand that dustpans are stamped out by a die in seconds at 1000's per day in mass production. Clearly this is about techniques for the artisan to build a great many things. As for the ANYTHING...well, I'd be impressed if one could use any of these techniques to bake a cake (not make the pan, duh!), make a fish net, bind a book, ...,etc. The list is endless of things these techniques cannot help you with. So ANYTHING? Naw, but a LOT of things.....absolutely. Sorry I just couldn't resist since you threw "facts" around like they're a dime a dozen. How few again?
This isn't about making a dust pan, it's learning how to work metal by the master himself.
Thanks for the kind words!
I was about to write the same, I don´t understand how can someone complain about such a beautiful video!
I mean, it is also about how to make a dust pan.
It’s these type projects to help you learn techniques. This project alone has me wanting to build my own dust pan to learn more about sheet metal. Loving this build and collaboration. Thank You Ron for taking the time to share this information with us.
Amazing how precise everything was made with the simplest tools and calculations.
Trying to explain to my wife that I'm watching artisanal dust pan construction videos.
Hey - LOVE that term - artisanal dust pans!
🤣🤣🤣
just lie. lie like you've never lied before. then lie again to cover the first lie. leave her wondering WTH? then she'll go back in the house. then you can be alone with your new dust pan.
Beautiful dust pan. Never thought I'd utter that phrase
I love it!
@@RonCovell Great work by both of you supremely talented gentleman.
This has to be the worlds finest dustpan. It belongs in a museum.
Thanks!
Wow! Good to see you skitscape, haven’t seen your stuff since I was a teenager back in the early 2010’s. Hope you’re well!
Right?? what is people from the future going to think when they found this? so confusing.
Naw, it'll end up in the posh collection of a private collector.
it belongs in every garage, make people proud by owning beautiful tools
Tony:
Ron: One of a kind handle!
That technique for making a radius from three chamfers is gold though!
I guess I should have said that Tony made TWO 'one-of-a-kind' handles (smile)!
You're obviously a good dude, Ron :)
Techicaly, due to the teleportation to ship this handle.. it is a one off
Yup -- I was thinking "you know, they make 1-inch-radius roundover router bits that would do up that curve in a jiffy...." And then Ron added in the taper, and I have to admit I've never seen a router bit that would change the roundover radius from one end of the cut to the other!
the thing is tot probably made one then traveled into the future and stole it back and showed it in his video :)
Coming from TOT, I thought this would be a demonstration of a simple project. I mean ... dustpan? What I got was a tour-de-force of fabrication-techniques, elegantly and clearly presented. I really didn’t think there would be this much in terms of precision, jigs, molds and more! Your love of the craft really shine through with the skill and care you put into this. Amazing work, sir!
It's comments like yours that keep me doing this!
Me too. Exactly.
It seems forever (or, at least a really long time) true that most good craftwork is 90% preparation.
In the beginning my pops used to teach me in metalworks by these words. "We need a fish smoker at the cabin, go make me a stainless box with a sliding lid" gave me a rough drawing and said theres the tool and heres the metal. He just watched me, never said a word. I finished the thing and then he would point out all the mistakes. Then we made another together. Best way to learn stuff.
Very cool!
You were very fortunate sir...
Oh how my hands were sweating when you picked up that TIG and started going on the piece with tens of hours put into it! Marvellous!
Well, I've done it for so many years now that my palms seldom sweat anymore.
@@RonCovell Oh, they still sweat. They call that old-school water cooling :)
I wish Ron taught my geometry class in high school.
This old Tony explains sine and cosine very well
I think we all have had some good, and some not-so-good teachers.
And I was just about to say that I like how well and beautiful he does it *without* using actual geometry?
@@RonCovell
True, but we did not look at the study as we look at it now, years pass ....
@@RonCovell one is lucky to have just a single life-defining teacher. I've actually had three in my life, one math teacher (best one ever), one electrical engineering/shop teacher and one in a programming class. (yes, highly beta orientated) But to this day I'm still grateful to them making the click and allowing my understanding of the world to grow beyond normal teachings.
The shop and programming teachers were great, but the math teacher.... We first had a math teacher explains things for half a year, nobody got it, we just barely passed our grades. He would show the math tricks, but he didn't explain it. So we only applied the tricks from memory at the test, but we didn't get it. However next year we got the "awesome-really-great" math teacher that actually explained that half year worth of math in the space of 90 minutes. We all passed his class of advanced math with flying colors. Much like the radius trick you showed, putting theory into practice.
Asking "why would you make a video about a dust pan?" is like asking why would Mr Miyagi teach me to wax a car.
Thanks for your comment!
You, Sir, win the Comment of the Week Award!
That's a great comparison haha
@@RonCovell how sweet.
I love how positive you are. You've definitely got a new subscriber here, my friend.
@@dreyn7780 you sound a bit like someone I'd cross the street to avoid, but someone I can't help replying to on youtube
"it has a good degree of adjustability" *then starts tapping* ...haha loved it, Ron...
The truth is that I have a Starrett height gauge, but I wanted to show how to do this work with really simple tools.
@@RonCovell Ron, with your skills of patern making you can also teach composite moldings and fabrication as well... Like Mike patey.
@@RonCovell Does the Starrett use the same adjustment implement? 😆
@@RonCovell Doing it with simple tools gives so much more inspiration, good stuff!
@@RonCovell woodworkers have been using hammer adjusted tools for hundreds of years, and some people still use them. What works, works!
The working out and layout of that wood form will stay with me forever
Wow, I never realized how involved something like this could be. Ron is a true master of his craft. Thanks for sending us here Tony.
from a mass production standpoint, this entire pan could be stamped out of sheet stock with 2, maybe 3 dies on a press and be a finished functional product in minutes, if not seconds. From a fabrication standpoint, the skills displayed here are invaluable and a dying art. If i had to pick one youtube channel to save a copy of if the internet was shutting down tomorrow, it would be this one.
Incredible. I absolutely loved this series, and discovered you through this old Tony. You've got a new subscriber, and I'll be sure to keep watching your content.
Fantastic - more to come, for sure!
I as well have found him through this old Tony.
Me too!
@@RonCovell Yes indeed, I'm one too!
Me, three!!!
I've never wanted a dust pan so much.
Well - you could make one!
agreed! It just makes you want to make something so beautiful. How many man hours, outside of filming, actually went into making the forms and the dust pan.
@@RonCovell I could also fly a nuclear submarine to the moon 🌝
Rob, you are a genius. Not just in creating your method and the masterful way in which you implement it, but in how you teach it to us. Taking such a complicated shape and breaking down the process so simply and succinctly that it makes perfect sense while also not overloading the viewer with extraneous information takes skill and effort. From a young educator fresh out of teaching school to a practiced master, you have my appreciation and respect
Wow - thank you for the kind words!
#spike4972 I failed grade 11 Physics the first time because the teacher had no concept of practical application.
As a former educator, I think that theory without application is just that... theory. Theory alone solves very little without being able to put it into practice.
Many students need to know why something would be useful to bother to learn it. They have SO much information thrown at them at this time.
Best of luck in your career.
@@RonCovell I wonder about the other ways to make this dustpan that you didn't choose. 🤔 Would there be a runner up? What would that have looked like?
It's so nice watching someone who knows what they're doing.
I've watched 3 videos about dust pans...
And I'm a better man now because of it.
This level of skill and talent is ledgend.
This series has been an amazing introduction to your channel Ron. Strangely enough, I never questioned spending so much time on a dustpan, but maybe that says more about me!
Wow, thanks!
I wish there was a love button in TH-cam. “Like” just isn’t strong enough.
Thanks so much!
I'm more of a woodworker, but there are a ton of really useful techniques I picked up from this series that I am going to incorporate into my own projects. Thank you!
Great to hear!
Your sheet metal work has given me an even newer appreciation for detail.
I think that's great!
I know the feeling that I got while watching. I have felt this feeling many times before. I have never before wanted to fashion my own BEAUTIFUL DUSTPAN from sheet metal, but I feel that I now must. And, knowing myself, I will. It is inevitable, because I've got that feeling again...
It's a good feeling!
I found youh through a This old Tony recommendation and I have a lot to learn from you. Keep it up mr. Covell
Ron, seeing you use those layout techniques has genuinely been an eye-opening experience. In retrospect, they are so simple and obvious, but I never in a hundred years would have thought to use any of them. That's the best kind of clever.
After working in my shop for 55 years, I've picked up a few tricks!
50 years ago you would have probably figured it out easier as the techniques were more widely known, and there were no easy crutch alternatives like CNC routers or 3d printers to make one-off press forms from CAD drawings so you would have had no choice other than to figure this stuff out. As awesome as new tech is, there is something troubling about the loss of practical hands-on skills and knowledge such as that displayed in this video.
A nail in a board. Fricken brilliant. I would have never thought of that.
I'll be going back and watching all your videos. I knew you were good but you're an absolute master.
Yes, sometimes simple tools are all that's necessary!
the real question is how he hammered the blunt end of the nail into the block
@@RonCovell this is what i love the most about discovering your channel - i don't have any room or money to get into lathe or milling work, but everything you've shown is so accessible. I'm definitely going to keep these techniques in mind.
@@JerenVelletri he didn’t. hammer the nail into the block, cut off the head and sand/file into a point :)
We’ve got a lot to learn from the old guys among us.
This is excess of the best kind, it's not about expensive materials or grandiose pretentions, it's just pure skill and incredible workmanship turning boring flat metal into a true future heirloom piece through nothing but hard work, knowledge and time.
Thanks - well put!
I think the best part of making things is seeing your creation years later and finding yourself thankful that you put in time.
I agree!
Ron, your commitment to perfection and attention to detail is second to none, truly a master craftsman. So glad This Old Tony turned me on to your channel. You have definitely earned a new subscriber!
Thanks for watching!
I absolutely love how this shows the real world uses of geometry in an intuitive, practical way. Keep up the great work! :)
Thanks, will do!
Those entire project was wholesome and adorable. I'm glad Tony steered me in your direction, I'm definitely subscribing!
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Welcome aboard!
I was introduced to your channel from the TOT handle video. Never have i had my jaw on the floor for so long for a video like this. Seeing you take basic techniques and craft a dustpan worthy of an art museum taught me what true mastery looked like. Thank you for sharing your work.
Awesome! Thank you!
I was lucky enough to have someone like Ron as a shop teacher in HS. His craftsmanship has inspired me for almost 50 years now. He also had a pretty good sense of humor. This is gold, folks; priceless.
That really speaks to the value of an instructor who knows how to inspire their students!
Nicest dustpan I’ve ever seen.
I'm so glad you liked it!
Who knew a dustpan could be beautiful!
I had to try my hand at it!
"Why not buy one?" Here's why: Mr. Covell is showing you how to make the tools to make as many as you want.
exactly. with these techniques the world is your oyster. A better question would be: why buy from china what you can fabricate yourself? Sure, if you just need a dustpan for cleanup you would probably pick the $2 plastic POS over this beauty. But its not about the destination, its about the journey.
Yeap, though making all those molds just to make one kinda bothers me since its kinda waste of materials. Otherwise i would do this... plus dont have alu tig to fabricate it together, then again steel would be better material anyways for this.
I fear a world that lacks men of your talent and skill. Incredibly done! Thank you for sharing.
Mr. Covell, I'm watching this with my jaw on the floor. Your layout and planning techniques are absolutely inspired. Thank you so much for sharing with the world.
Amazing practices.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great project, now I’ve got to bend some sheet metal’
This is awesome! Incredibly satisfying, relaxing and informative to watch. Thanks for making my day a little bit better
My pleasure 😊
I just finished watching all the videos of this series on both channels. What a great collab ! And I'm glad Tony made me discover your channel Mr. Covell. This is just the kind of stuff I like to watch :)
Awesome! Thank you!
Man, this is great. I would never have watched 3 episodes of "how it's made" on making a dust pan, but I did enjoy all three of these videos. Thanks ToT for introducing me to this channel. You are a very passionate guy Ron. I can see it in your work quality and precision as well as your appreciation for other people work, like the way you reacted to Tony's handle!
Thanks, and I have always had an appreciation for exceptional work done by others!
@@RonCovell Well you definitely have a new subscriber, going to start watching your older videos now!
"We're not worthy!"
Beauty is where you find it. Making beautiful things, especially functional things, is a uniquely human endeavor.
People like Ron and Tony make this crazy world ever more awesome with every beautiful useful thing that they make, and they're ever more noble for helping us learn to do it, too! Thank you, gentlemen!
And thank you to all of the other ladies and gentlemen who make beautiful things, and make this insane world more sane, and more beautiful!!
I agree with you!
@@RonCovell Thanks, Professor!
I may be dating myself, but I've been a fan of yours since the old days of StreetRodder and Rod & Custom... I've fantasized for many years about picking up an English Wheel and taking some of your personal classes. I'm currently building a '53 Hudson Hornet with an electric drivetrain (I've been into EVs since I saw Roderick Wilde's electric Deuce in the 90s).
Hammer on, Professor!
The electric Hudson sounds COOL!
This was exquisite. I can always appreciate learning new techniques.
Finally!
I'd been waiting for it, since I saw the "This Old Tony" video...
I hope it was worth the wait!
Why don't you just use magic like Tony does? All that geometry takes a lot of time!
I'll work on conjuring up some magic for future videos.
when the world ends, it is people like Ron and Tony that will help us rebuild
You are a craftsman. I want you to know how much I like meeting people like you in the world. People who are skilled, meticulous and won't loose their temper if you can't do what they can yet. I'm glad you made a you tube channel
That's high praise, in my book!
I watched him do it, and I still say it's elven magic.
Overkill? Perhaps, but these are great basic layout and fabrication tequeniqes that are hard to find, and would be great practice for any aspiring tin bender. just the reminder that tape is great way to layout lines, and distances has been worth the time. I will be spending more time here. Thanks :D
I'm so glad you enjoyed this video!
Ron, cool dust pan. That would look good in my garage. A lot better then the cheap plastic ones from dollar store. God bless
Thanks!
it is very heartwarming to see the kind words from the comments and ron’s gracious and humble responses
You are a true master! What's even more great is you did mostly everything with simple hand tools. The big takeaway is how much one's patience in the prep work is rewarded with an amazing finished product!
Thank you very much!
That is a mighty fine dustpan.
Glad you liked it!
YAY
Yay, thank you!
19:15 could you imagine if doctors and machinists had the same standards of clean?😂 “I’m just gonna wire brush this ur leg so it’s perfectly clean before amputation.”
Another ToT refugee here. Thank you so much for sharing your craft Ron. It makes me want to get back to my projects again.
I especially liked your innovative and "traditional" geometric layout - in contrast to everything CAD these days. First principles are something we shouldn't lose sight of. You've gained another sub.
This is the best collaboration between two of the most wholesome dudes on TH-cam. I've learned a ton from both of you and the collaboration was delightful.
I’m not crying, you’re crying. Awesome job
I'm not crying either!
I am crying damn it
Ron: "This is a bit more difficult." Masking tape: "I gotchu fam."
Need to find out who sells the timber marking piece..Will check Amazon.
Sorry, but I can't tell if your comment is 'tongue in cheek'. I made that marking tool.
@@RonCovell Tongue om cheek ..but if I made that the timber would split..nice work
@@RonCovell oh boy that's a depressing statement. Poe's law is the name of that situation.
@@RonCovell Definitely a joke 😁
@@RonCovell surely you mean 'tongue and groove' there, Ron? I tried 'tongue and cheek' on timber once... couldn't sit down for days and I still have a lisp 😆
I'll see myself out...
I took a class with Ron a few years ago. He was one of the nicest humans I have ever met.
when i was a kid growing up in the 60's our only source of information and inspiration came from hot rod magazines and occasionally from a local guru who was probably reluctant to share his secrets. aluminum was a magic metal welded with a torch by a select group of craftsmen. i can only imagine how much i could have learned in those early years had i been able to get in home tutoring (you tube) from masters like you and tony.i hope this generation of kids appreciates the opportunities available to them today.thanks ron beautiful job.and thanks tony i have followed your channel for years.
TH-cam is such an incredible resource for passing along these skills!
Ron (immediately after opening the box from ToT): “I knew I should’ve asked Kieth Fenner to make the handle....”.
HAH - I'll keep the one I got. Maybe Keith and I could do a collab someday?
Ron Covell
Well now you need a dust brush......
@@RonCovell Yes! DO IT!
The handle is screwed on, so you should absolutely get other craftsmen to build you interchangeable handles for the pan! 😁
@Ron Covell What do you use for the sanding lubricant? I've always done everything dry for fear of loading up the disc!
I was wondering that too!
I use bar soap, and every brand I've tried works fine. Some smell better than others.
@@RonCovell Thanks! I'll give it a shot.
Great video series with This old Tony. Who might you collaborate with next?
Soap is a very good tip. I learned this a few years ago and didn’t believe it till I tried it. Ron you are amazing!
***WhY DoN'T YoU BuY a $1 DuStPaN?***
Ron: I'm about to ruin this child with a fully custom truck dashboard.
Yeah because a fully custom truck dashboard is a great use of your time on this earth. Do you guys hate your wives and kids or something?
@@thersten They are just enjoying their hobbies. We all spend our time with certain hobbies. No need to be rude about it.
@@thersten Some people like a break from wif and kids, and aren't interesting in the local bar/pub. You listen to a lot of music, what do you hate your wife and kids?
Ron - Thank You for Sharing your Talent and Work!!! Tony said it best - " My Jaw is on the floor with what you do with metal !!! what you do seems impossible - and way outside of what I would be capable of doing" - SUBSCRIBED : ) Thanks Ron!
I know I'm 2 years late, but the amount of skill and finesse displayed here is absolutely inspirational. Thank you for recording this series, I look forward to watching more of your content!
Your comments are always welcome, even for older videos. I'm getting close to uploading the last video in my 'curvy seat' series, which is even more involved than this dustpan.
"Why would you spend this much time..."
Because DUST.
Well said, indeed!
Dammit i needed to be up early tomorrow 😩
Well, you could watch 10 minutes tonight, and the rest tomorrow.
@@RonCovell ahhhh to late i already watched the whole thing. Amazing work! I came from This old Tony, but I knew I recognized the name. Definitely have a subscriber out of me, also whittled my way through previous videos while I'm here.
Edit: not tonight...but when I have time haha. Must sleep.
Man: "Checkout my new dust pan!"
Friend: "That's cool. Looks heavy-duty. How much was it?"
Man: "$4200."
Yes, quality work is expensive if you have to pay someone to do it. A lot of people have the skill and tools to do hammerforming. It's not really that difficult.
@@RonCovell As you so suitably demonstrated.
@@RonCovell If I was making (say) plinths for winches in the cockpit of an aluminum sailboat, out of 6mm 5154, I'm guessing I'd have to do plenty of annealing steps? And would you imagine I'd need to make a metal hammerform, if I was making (say) four plinths?
Your attention to detail is wonderful to watch. Your teaching skills are so far above anything I have ever seen, heard or watched, anyone from 8 to 80 (and beyond) would learn from you.
Thanks so much 😊
I have to say that it is masters like you that show how the proper application of skill and knowledge and make great things. When my truck was wrecked a young man can to cut out and weld in large sections of the cab. As the process was going on he sent us photos and in the end he blended the old, new and welds so well that even with the reference photos we are unable to tell where he actually restored the cab. I was completely amazed at the time at the craftsmenship and after seeing your work and understanding how much effort goes into that work i am even more impressed. I don't think this kind of work gets enough recognition because like the reconstructed dash, if you do it well most people will never know that it was ever restored.
having second thoughts on making a aluminium bodied car when I see this much work in a dust pan
Have you watched the videos of Wray Schlein? He may instill some confidence in you!
th-cam.com/video/ptGHpmjPhl0/w-d-xo.html
Trial and error. Keep in mind that mistakes are just part of the process. Learn from them.
That EType hood is a thing of beauty but oh my god try and ignore how long it is taking, and don't forget you have to drink a shot every time he says "flexible shape pattern".
yeah but you can keep the forms afterwards, and any body restoration to the car will be basically easy.
Is it cheating if i just cnc or 3d print these forms? You are awesome ron!!!
No - CNC is not cheating. I have not delved into CNC work yet, but I'm sure I would find it a great tool for getting stuff done - especially if more than one is needed!
CNC seems like it would work well, but how much tinkering with CAM would it take to get the same result?
@@RonCovell For the one-offs in this video series, I doubt you could model and print a part half as fast as you could mark and bandsaw your bucks/forms. I mean that literally. 3D printers are fantastic, but I imagine you'd be waiting a LONG time for your form if it was printed. That rapid turnover stuff just isn't here, yet. God Bless, that's for the fantastic content.
@@RonCovell You may want to look into a gimmicky CNC handheld router called "Shapeways Origin". IT's way too expensive, too finnicky to setup, but it's actually a pretty novel 'toy' that can get some mostly 2D work done. I'm working on making a 3D Capable one that doesn't have as many gimmicks.
This is like the human version of solid works or fusion 360 and AvE's CNC.... (I mean Tony's CNC)
That's a good way to look at it!
Alternatively, Solidworks+CNC is the robot version of Ron Covell
CAD - Cardboard aided design! :-D
I've never thought a dust pan could look so beautiful. It's a piece of art.
Thanks for the high praise!
Thank you for imparting your knowledge, Ron! Both informative and beautiful.
As for those who ask 'why don't you just buy one?': The channel is about Metalworking and Welding...not shopping and bargain hunting. Better to create than to consume!
I never realized metal working involved so much wood working skills. Great videos!
Sometimes a dustpan is not just a dustpan. Ron, thank you very much for taking the tine to share these skills with us. This is the kind of thing that turns craftsmanship from a mystical art to an interesting challenge that more of us can attempt.
You are very welcome
Man, what a job! That is perfection! Thanks to guys like Ron and Tony for putting up this kind of knowledge free for all! This is not just a dust pan! Perfection!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Someone as experienced as you, does not need to justify ANYTHING you do!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Collaboration makes this world a better place! Great job!
Thank you so much. I'm working on two new collaborations right now.
Love seeing people with good taste in high quality marking tools.
Right on!
Two very different styles that compliment each other very well...Great collaboration. Prep then prep then prep
At each step if you ask your self how you'd solve that problem to make that section, and if your lucky, you'll get at least one if not more options you hadn't considered. That's learning. I wonder if those asking why a dustpan are those who aren't quite watching with actual use/making in mind. The wealth of practice, approach, and order of operations in this example is amazing. That is what makes Mr. Covell's video so special. Not just his mastery level experience as a fabricator, but more importantly as a master demonstrator and teacher. Rare in this medium and platform and greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the kind words!
This made me happier than it probably should have. Hats off to both.
Glad you liked it!
Ron, you are like the Archimedes of our time! SO many great tips and insights. Glad I found your channel
Welcome aboard!
Ron, I'm 63 and been doing sheet metal working, welding, and machining since I was old enough to do so. I even built limousines at a Wisconsin company. I've been watching your videos for years and I have a book you wrote some years back. If you were making a video of how to make a garbage can I'd watch it. I have learned a lot from the book and videos so you are my mentor. I do wood work as well but metal work for me is the most fun. Thanks for all the years of instruction. Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year!
Hey, sounds like you do some great work! Thanks for watching and commenting, and we'll look forward to a better New Year!
The trick with the folded tape for the measure. Mind. BLOWN.
Sometimes the simplest techniques are the best!
Many years ago I took some hands on courses with Ron......to say he is very talented is an understatement....he's also a great person to just hang around with and talk cars and fabrication techniques.
Thanks for the nice comments!
I need to watch this approximately 1 million times. So many amazing techniques! Excellent work, Ron.
Wow, thanks!
I've never done or seen any of this craft before in my life. That mold work is just magic. So much respect. I could never have figured that out
Now you know how to do this kind of work!
I have been watching this mouth open, amazed by the ease you show these processes. That is true craftmanship...
We aim to please!
I am endlessly fascinated with all the "tricks" to figure things out, using basically no math. The chamfers to end up with a radius? The tape trick to figure out the size of blank? It's all just so smart! I also appreciate that hammering the metal is like 5% of the work. And paint guys think they have a lot of prep work haha.
Almost 40 years ago I made a dustpan in junior high metal shop and I think my mom still has it. Now I want to make a nicer one. Thanks Ron!
This dust pan puts all other dust pans to shame. You're an absolute madman Ron.
I am so greatful for Ron taking the time to film this. The people criticizing have no idea how lucky we are to be able to see this. People like Ron are a dieing breed and its truly sad. Honestly what I feel that people need to take away from this video is that to be a true craftsman you need to have a ton of patience and attention to detail. I'm a 3rd generation metal worker and machinist and one thing my dad told me when I was young is " If you do your best on every job, It will be easy to do a good job when it counts" and this video is a perfect example of that statement.
Thank you, and I really like your dad's thoughts!