This fight is better than any in the sequel trilogy for one reason: it’s STORY driven. Notice how there’s barely any actual fighting going on in all of this. Even in Empire, the real conflict wasn’t really physical, but psychological. And that’s what makes the OT so special, even despite some flaws in Return of the Jedi, like the second act & ewoks. This segment alone stands out as one of the all time great Star Wars moments, and I love it!
Wait, the second act of Return of The Jedi? I would have thought people hated how the first quarter of the movie takes place on Tatooine, within the confines of Jabba’s palace and skiff, just trying to get Han Solo back into the squad. If I saw this for the first time in 1983, I would have assumed that George Lucas spent a lot of time on that one part of the movie, completely forgot that there was all of Endor and Death Star II to film, and then scrambled to get Endor done quickly while also incorporating the Ewoks for the little kids watching. Not gonna lie though, I loved Return of The Jedi, especially the final space battle.
itwontcomeout5678 I would probably say that this movie pulls a Rouge One/Endgame move in the sense that the third act makes up for almost any complaint you have had with the movie before... if that makes sense?
@@TheInvincibleH except in the instance that he's had interaction with Force ghost Obi Wan since ESB. So there's a good amount he still could have learned from him, given that he visited Luke and Yoda often enough.
In the novelization of ROTJ it goes into what Luke is thinking at that moment. He decides Leia is the only hope if he fails. He can't let Vader get to her. He'll kill Vader and himself to stop that from happening.
Same! The anger Luke shows while fighting his father combined with the musical score that plays after Luke yells “Never!” still gives me goosebumps to this day, just like it did when I first saw the movie with my mom back in 2011.
I love the fact that Vader does the safer option by doing the saber throw instead of engaging Luke at the High ground. It suggest that Vader has learned his lesson when it comes to engaging an opponent who has the high ground.
Notice how Palatine said "strike me down and your journey to the dark side will be complete" Luke goes for him, but is stopped by Vader. Like Vader was preventing Luke from fulfilling the same fate as he once did...signs of Anakin coming back...
Vader could've backstabbed the Emperor. Luke alone, or Vader alone maybe couldn't beat the Emperor, but together they could beat him easy. If they had killed him they would both be on the dark side? Is this not what Vader wanted, to rule with his son? If he changed his mind about turning Luke then backstabbing the Emperor seems ideal, but then Vader would stay on the dark side and inevitably Luke would follow? Or was Vader so conflicted that it affected his reason? It seems, for the sake of the story, Vader had to die in order to be redeemed. Him surviving would not have done it. Say he did backstab the Emperor and then turned to the light. What then? That's not enough for redemption, also no one would ever accept Vader back in the rebellion, or new republic or whatever - the "good guys" wouldn't have him that's for sure.
I love how the movie handles Luke's short fall. it's not the offer of power, or anything like that. Rather it's the fact that wants to protect his sister, it overwhlems him and for a moment he slips and he falls into it. And then seeing his dad's robotic hand, the same to what he has, it pulls him back. It's the urge to protect his family that pulls him towards the dark side, and it's seeing what the dark side did to his family that pulled him out
In a contrast to the Prequels where Anakin goes through a similar journey. In the first episode, Anakin was selfless, helping a bunch of random strangers with the wise advice of his mother on Tatooine, and again on Naboo when he blew up the Droid Control Ship. Only, unfortunately, Palpatine got his eyes on him, and began the grooming and manipulation. Ten years later, in the second part, Anakin listened to the Jedi not to go back for his mother despite his warnings, being told "dreams pass in time" and other offhanded comments in the novels and comics. When he eventually went back, his mother died in his arms, and the Jedi's lack of understanding basic human emotions led him to his first taste of the Dark Side. His love for Padmé brought him back or else he would have fallen on Tatooine. Palpatine's manipulations persisted throughout the Clone Wars. Having been alienated from Obi-Wan mostly afterwards, their bond was as it could have been. The comment about Anakin saying "Obi-Wan is the closest person he has to a father" is not irrefutable proof that Anakin absolutely saw Obi-Wan as a father figure-it is obviously proof that he *wanted to* but Obi-Wan brushed him off. Anakin is the archetypal *lost boy* who attaches on (rightfully) to any older male authority figure and as sees them as a surrogate father. After AOTC and after this line Anakin never calls Obi-Wan his "father" or anything like it again. By the time of Revenge of the Sith, it is Palpatine to whom Anakin has transferred his need for a paternal figure messed up stuff. Why? Because Obi-Wan had totally refused that role and Anakin, because of various events, no longer felt he should trust him. Just a reminder of the failures of the Jedi Order. In ROTS, his manipulator encouraged him to kill a defeated threat, and he took it as a legal order and did it. He lost sleep, worrying about his wife and child(ren). Like Luke, it was not just about power. It was about wanting to protect the one he loved. Unfortunately, he couldn't pull back before it was too late. Those manipulations piled up, the alienations from his comrades, etcetera, Anakin couldn't bear the stress and all of what he could have lost, and lost it anyhow.
Luke: *has the high ground* “You couldn’t bring yourself to kill me before and I believe you won’t destroy me now” Vader: “you underestima- wait a second...”
And then disney trilogy happens... Prequels may not have been perfect, but at least their final duel was just as meaningful and emotional as this one. TROS end battle was just nonsense.
Can we just appreciate Ian McDiarmid in this? You can truly FEEL the darkness in sideous, you can feel the weight of his words, his gravitas. A truly incredible performance from a truly incredible actor.
How about when he smiles in delight after saying "and now young Skywalker you will die" and starts frying him again enjoying the pain he he is inflicting.
I typically don't get sad about celebrity deaths, but I was truly saddened to hear about the passing of James Earl Jones today. I grew up with Star Wars and always admired his deep, resonant, mellifluous voice (so much so, that I have tried to emulate that voice; the degree to which I have been successful in that regard is up for debate haha). And the facts that he overcame his childhood stutter and rose above the racism of his formative years are so inspiring to me. I am also honored to have shared my birthday with such an iconic actor. Rest in power, James. You lived a good, long life.
@@Innersanctum_ Mate, the "sequels" (calling them that is a joke in and of itself) are what I wipe my ass with after trying to digest the epicness that is Episodes IV to VI.
Something that crossed my mind was that Vader was right. If Luke failed here he would have certainly been able to turn Leia. The death of her planet and finally her brother would definitely tip her over the edge and make her much more susceptible to the dark side
thats exactly what happened in that "What if" comic they made if Luke's torpedo failed to take out the Death Star. Vader and Palps captured Leia again, and found out through the force the truth behind her heritage. They started to train her, and well, she went full sith
I watched the movie again yesterday and i just wonder: Why Lea? Why even Luke? Sidious knew Luke was stronger and wasnt easy to convince to become part of the dark side. It was obvious he wouldnt turn, so the whole dark side aspect was kinda irrelevant. Even more with Lea. She wasnt even a Jedi, why would they try to get her to the dark side? Im certain vader only said that to anger luke and lure him out of hiding.
@@CODA96 because Luke is the son of the chosen one and has tons of untapped potential power. Palpatine wants the most powerful force user as his apprentice, which he apparently wants to possess at some point. That fight between Vader and Luke was basically a test. between who is the most powerful force user. When Luke chose the light over the dark, this right here was a temper tantrum if anything. Palpatine finally ad someone who could beat his best servant, and this guy refused to work for him.
@@ethanharmer5151 I still dont get the whole situation at all. Luke had no reason to join the Dark Side. Literally none. Anakin joined the dark side because he believed he could save Padme with these powers. Palpatine was slowly manipulating him for years about the Jedi Council being corrupt and fueling his hate towards not becoming a master, aswell as his arrogance to be the strongest. It made perfect sense, but why Luke??? Palpatine neither manipulated him, and neither did they have Lea or Han as a Hostage. Hell, Palpatine even showed him that the rebellion is ''lost'' and everyone would die, if anything thats MORE reason to destroy Palpatine and NOT join the dark side. I really dont wanna say this, but this just feels like bad writing. Palpatine should have blown up endor while Luke was on it and be done with it. Luke had 0 reason to join him and was stronger than Vader, so Palpatine literally killed himself.
Palpatine wanted to know if Luke was powerful enough to defeat Vader(he was). It's basically the Dooku situation(both scenes are purposefuly similar). If Luke dies, Palpatine still has Vader as his powerful apprentice and the threat of a Jedi that could surpass Palpatine is gone. If Luke defeats and kills Vader, he gets an even stronger apprentice. It's a win-win scenario for him(until Luke refuses to kill Vader, of course)
" I will not fight you " Nerd fanboys : " OMMMMMGGGGGG HE TRAINED HE TRAVLLED AND DONT WANNA FIGHT LUKE IS THE MMMMMMMMGGGG HE IS THE GAAAWD " Then after luke rage a bit swing is sword left to right with no accuracy whatsoever You fanboys still be like : " OMMMMG SOOOO GOOOD WRITING " So whats good now that hes the " good guy " or the " raging guy " Cause in the end he won cause of his rage and not cause hes good xD The writing in this 3 first movies are so bad.
I always liked how Luke looks at Vader's missing hand and sees it's machine and then looks at his own machine hand, and realizes he's on his way to becoming his father.
@@aprinceofearthsea4875 totally true, but also it's not the same purpose....this end of he story the aclyote is helping to build. The acolyte is showing how the fall of he jedi begins...Luke is showing its redemption. One is by definition going to be more satisfying then the other.
Imagine if Luke didn't care as much as he did here and went... "Ok fuck this shit Sidious you're too fucking annoying and dangerous to be kept alive, I'm going to kill you because I want to practice my Jedi beliefs in peace!" (Wham!) Technically, the whole scenes from start of the Throne room was more like a family gathering and deadly argument between Father and Son. Darth Sidious you're a fucking outsider with no business butting into their family affair gtfo man.
Sidious wasn't going to defend himself. He would've willingly been a martyr for Luke's anger to just take his place knowing the only known Jedi just screwed up his chance to make things right.
UltimaKeyMaster If he don't, Luke decided not to kill him out of anger but out of the fact that as long as Darth Sidious stays alive, Luke will never be able to practice his Jedi beliefs in peace. Then went "meh" at the Dark Side and went to live happily ever after because Darth Vader suddenly doesn't seem to care that much about striking down in anger or not because he's too busy going all over the places telling everyone that he has a son and a daughter.
4:04 When Luke screams "never" and charges vader always gets me. The background music is so powerful. John Williams is a legend and No one can ever really replace him.
Very, very true. Although, I'd say that should it ever come to needing a replacement that either Michael Giacchino or Alan Silvestri would be the best choices. Not saying we *need* - or *want* - a replacement of John Williams, but if there ever is one, I'd say it's a choice between Michael and Alan.
Vader hated himself after a lifetime of bad decisions. Ben was on the edge between dark and light, and the prospect of someone so strong with the force giving in frightened Luke, so much he instinctively drew his weapon. He reigned himself in, but by then his nephew saw all the evidence he needed to commit to the dark.
@@Avenger85438 hence why vader was conflicted but luke saw the light still in him, anyways thats not the point, the point is luke saw good in vader even after everything he did from hunting jedi he once knew and trained with etc to killing children, i would consider killing children a no going back momentm yet even after that luke still saw good in his father, yet luke could not see good in his own nephew and that was without ben drawing his lightsaber to lukes jedi academy
YES!! I totally agree. The “good” in him saved Luke right then and there, although at that point he hadn’t fully turned back to the light and was still conflicted. Good call!
I am glad that I am not the only one who had that thought! Also, even though I had already watched the prequels, when Vader prevented Luke to kill Palpatine I came to the conclusion that even as a Sith Lord, Anakin is still the Chosen One, the end of the Sith will come by him not by Luke.
and fallen order was decades before battle of yavin New Hope or even ROTJ, and was 5 years after anakin became darth vader, so at the time he was fully more powerful and at great potential as a dark lord. but as powerful as he is even at old age, yes he defintelty still have power but its not as strong as in the past, and yet he was holding back (his dark side feelings too) against luke so luke won.
1:46 “You are unwise to lower your defences” What I like about this line is that deep down Anakin cares about his sons fighting technique and is ultimately pointing out a weakness in his defence skills
@@erikssgss7936Not really. Don't get me wrong, Luke actually is a talented Lightsaber duelist. His lightsaber skill is actually prodigious, and in this fight, he's actually as skilled as Vader in Lightsaber combat. George Lucas even says that Luke and Vader could have an even sword fight at this point in time without Vader stomping him. That being said, Vader also wasn't trying to beat Luke for a majority of this fight. During their duel on Bespin, Vader literally uses the Force in conjunction with his Lightsaber. If he was actually trying to kill Luke, Vader would have absolutely stomped him. But because Vader just essentially limited this to a sword fight, Luke actually stood a chance. Of course, I think if Luke uses the Dark Side, he's better than Vader in pure Lightsaber combat (we even see Vader get genuinely overwhelmed here), but like I said, Vader wasn't trying to kill Luke. He didn't play smart. He just antagonized Luke and made the young Jedi lose his cool.
No father would actually fight at full power against his son, and Vader was literally obsesessed with luke since he thought that he is the only remnant of padme
My Dad took me to see this when it first came out in theaters. I lost Dad in March 2020. We didn’t have the greatest relationship, but in the end, as with Luke and Anakin, me and Dad made peace. This movie has more deeper and powerful meaning years later. RIP to ALL Dads, no matter what.
@@robstyles2675 - Hey, thanks for responding. I don’t know If you have your Dad or not, but I would say make peace with him. We all have a Dad out here, whether we know him or not. The goal is to have peace of mind. That’s everything!
That shot where Luke and Vader are fighting behind the staircase all dark with the green/red lightsabers glowing and the music is my favorite moment in the entire Star Wars saga. I get the chills and want to cry every frigging time!
One interesting detail I love here is that every time we've seen Anakin/Vader in a duel, he always fights aggressively. His lightsaber form emphasizes being on the attack. Whenever he fights Dooku, Ventress, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Cal, Starkiller, Kanan, even Luke the first time. He's always on the offensive. Always on the attack. This is probably the first time we see him in a duel where he's on the defensive.
Agreed. In the last part where Luke embraces his anger and lashes out swinging wildly, Luke is literally thrusting Vader back with every saber to saber push. Vader tries to resist and yet is still pushed back and pushed around. Despite being twice the size of Luke, having equal force powers and having superior robotic strength he is being physically overpowered. Almost sad to watch.
@@attilaseyfullah8522 I don't think so. Is the wheezing and what seems to be the breaking down of his life support and grabbing for the railings to support himself also an act? It's a great scene but leaves itself open to too many interpretations. When it comes down to it, Darth Vader is a child killer and deserves the pasting he got.
@@attilaseyfullah8522 I wouldn’t say he lost on purpose, but rather that I think at this point in his life he had nothing left. He realized Luke would never join him, he knows that Sidious is trying to get rid of him in favor of Luke, and he’s sure that he’s beyond saving. I think he just doesn’t have a reason to fight anymore and just… gives up.
@@attilaseyfullah8522 I think he just got overwhelmed by the sudden shift in fighting posture. He hasn't really had to try much in the last 20 years and certainly hasn't had to expect dueling opponents in the last 20 years to have any real tricks up their sleeves in terms of form. While he is holding back he really was overwhelmed
I love how Luke and Anakin are basically the same. The way he taps into the dark side to take Vader down is exactly how Anakin was in the later seasons of Clone Wars.
They did a few scenes in TCW where Anakin uses several overhanded chops downward which is a nod to how Luke finishes Vader in this scene. They also primarily used the same saber form and are around the same age
No, not basically the same. At the pivotal moment, Luke turned away from the dark side; refused to strike down an evil, yet defenceless, opponant. Anakin meanwhile slaughtered innocent children without hesitation, not to mention murdering defenceless Dooku whilst still ostensibly a follower of the light.
Luke taps into the dark side and momentarily gives into his anger to protect the sister that he loves. Disney and current Lucasfilm does not and never will understand who Luke Skywalker is. He never would have abandoned his sister or his friends. He never would have given up on his nephew.
”So, the late-2012 idea of a Luke Skywalker haunted by the betrayal of one of his students, in self-imposed exile & spiritually in ‘a dark place’, not only precedes Rian Johnson’s involvement in Star Wars but J.J. Abrams’, as well,”-Phil Szostak, Luke being a bitter hermit was Lucas' idea all along.
For those arguing Luke did indeed surpass Vader once he used Jedi Fury,fully tapping into the darkside. The novel itself states that Palpatine himself was afraid of that power being used against him,with Sidious saying Luke could destroy them,with many other sources also sighting this. The novel also says that Sidious confidence in that moment was an act as Luke looked within him and sensed his fear. So Luke very briefly attained power comparable to and superior to that of Sidious but once he calms down he loses the rage boost and fatigue also sets in(as it happens after a fight is over and you calm down from rage)leaving him vulnerable,along with dropping his lightsaber like the lovable naive fool that he is. This is impressive for Vader cause he held his own against this power and Luke still had to put a lot of effort to beat him down,this solidifies that Vader is relative to Sidious power in this film,Lucas statement of EP6 Vader being 80% of Sidious makes a lot of sense under this context. Without using the darkside Luke was an equal overall tier with Vader but definetly weaker and on the lower end,with him somewhat gaining the advantage by using his aggressive feelings when kicking Vader down. But normally you can tell Vader has a definitive edge
100% agree. I've said before in conversations with people about this scene that in those fleeting moments during Luke's rage, he could've beaten almost anybody, including Palpatine himself. Palp always knew that a Luke with no restraint would be a threat, but to see it right in front of you makes that threat much more immediate and startling.
4:05 that score is so underrated. The distinct sadness and emotion in it shows how Luke loses himself in his feelings, giving into fear, hate, and even love as he tries desperately to kill his own father to protect his friends… it’s just… perfect
In my opinion this is the greatest fight in Star Wars history.... NOT because of how unbelievable the lightsaber fight is, it doesn't blow you away... but because of the way it makes you feel. The emotion. That's what the original trilogy got spot on.
To be fair as much as people complain bout the prequel saber duels which were awesome. After seeing what fans made of the reimagined ep4 vader vs obiwan duel, id love for the same team to redo the OT saber duels in their same style and have george lucas canonize those scenes in new releases.
Vader loved his family. He still had love within him. Luke called him on that when he said, I sense the conflict within you, I don't believe you can bring yourself to destroy me... Luke was right and deep down inside Vader knew it. That's one of the reasons this scene is so powerful. Darth Vader is a total bad ass. He's done very bad things. Yet facing his son in battle caused him to show a tremendous amount of restraint. Because in his heart, he's still Anakin... And Anakin ultimatley turned to the dark side to save the people he loved... I choked up when I watch this scene too. Epic cinema and storytelling for sure! In the end, they did indeed overthow the Empire together.
I absolutely feel the same way. It’s more of a difficult way of saying goodbye to one of the most exciting and unbelievably tough villains and all of history… I love the TH-camr critical drinker and his take on movie villains.
@4:19 - 4:27: One of my favorite shots in the entire franchise. The music, the way Luke stands, the big swooping arcs the lightsabers make before contact, the anger and emotion, the silhouettes, the camera strafe... it's damn beautiful.
I think Luke tapped into the saber style that only Mace Windu was known to use - VAAPAD (im only saying this because Luke did use dark side agression....but he was able to control iit after he had rendered Vader defenceless)
@@Darklord666123 he didnt control his dark side while fighting, he suppressed it afterwards. But who can really tell for sure with this horrible choreography
I love the visual story telling in this scene. Especially when Luke's face is half in the shadow and half in the light as he is tempted by the darkside. Then when he lets his anger get the better of him he is obscured by the shadows and attacks.
Dude, I just made a comment about the same thing. I noticed it a long time ago when watching ROTJ, since it is my favorite movie of the entire Star Wars series. I brought up the "find" utility to see if anyone else possibly noticed this small but VERY crucial "tell" as far as what Luke was internally thinking and the possible future path Luke might take as far as his current choices were about to seal the deal for him. This very small cut of the scene is pretty much what sealed the deal for me on why my vote goes to ROTJ when saying which Star Wars I like best!! It really highlights the fact we all have choices in life and even in the most dire of situations, no matter how difficult it seems it might be when considering the consequences of our moment to moment choices, at the very worst it's a 50/50 decision and the easy way out never pays off like choosing what is good for us in the long run!! Thanks for being "that guy!" I was super duper hoping that someone else picked up on this very small detail given the gravity of the scene and how things turned out afterwards!
This scene hits harder when you have a son of your own. When I was a kid I thought this fight was cool. Now that I’m an adult and a father, I think it’s heartbreaking. The way Luke looks at Vader when sidious is talking to him and his eyes say “dad… please help me.” Honestly this is one of the best stories in cinema history. George Lucas and his crew did an amazing job. It’s a shame Disney came along and fucked everything up. Edit: also, Vader wasn’t protecting Sideous from Luke when he blocked his lightsaber. He was protecting Luke from the dark side. Vader saved his son not once, but twice in this scene. He didn’t want his child to share his fate.
alot of emotion in the original trilogy, and i never thought about vader protecting luke from the dark side by stopping his lightsaber from hitting the emperor, it makes sense
@@The_Chameleon yea you could tell look was going to strike down sedious in that moment, and they being wizards im sure sedious and Vader both felt that strike was genuine
Disney is fine, you're just old. By the time I am your age, you'll be dead. Times change, the past is the past and the old movies are....corny. Stop living in the past, grandpa.
4:20 is my absolute favourite shot in all of Starwars, the camera movement and Lukes desperate anger mixed with the soundtrack gives me goosebumps every time.
The anger that Luke felt wasn't an anger of hate, it was one to protect the ones he loves. Much more powerful than Anakin's anger he felt when he wanted to gain power to help those he loved. This movie/scene brings so many emotions that you honestly don't care about the fight itself, rather the battle to save the ones you love from the Dark Side. This movie brings a great moral, it's easy to hate and destroy, but to love and fight for something, someone else is one of the greatest gifts we can give.
but at the same time, we see that Luke looks at his own robotic hand and then back to vader's robotic hand to signify that he realizes that anger (no matter where it comes from) will lead him to become like his father, and if he continues then he'll turn to the dark side, hence why he throws away his lightsaber after his realization.
@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 vor 1 Sekunde Love and hatred is ruled in a human brain in the same section what makes both the same feeling but you as human feel it different. That makes your point pointless.
@@myamdane6895You're missing the entire point if you think this is righteous anger. This is what Palpatine wanted Luke to do. Luke's fear was triggered, just as Anakin's fear was. Fear is a very unhealthy emotion that can lead to anger and aggression. Understandable aggression? Absolutely. But can it lead to the dark side? Yes. Like Obi-wan said: "Your feelings do you credit, but they can be made to serve the Emperor"
I love how Luke's fighting style completely changes when he taps into the Dark Side when Vader taunts him. Before he was playing quicker and more passive, focusing on blocking Vader's attacks and avoiding him with some grace to his moves, not wanting to fight. But when Vader threatens him with Leia, he goes entirely on the offense and starts slashing everywhere, missing a lot of his attacks at first and just constantly attacking Vader, pushing him back and down. And then he just starts beating into his lightsaber like if he were hitting someone with a bat. He went from defensive and elegant avoidance to rage-induced constant striking, every hit just full of anger towards his father. Hamill is very talented in showing just how careless and angry Luke got during the fight.
Yes! The passion of love! "Love is the answer to the dark side." -Yoda Fighting for love allows one to use anger without falling into dark side bondage. Luke's fighting style, in this sequence, is my favorite of all time by far!
This fight is the most intense and gripping of the whole saga. Not because of skill with the lightsaber or Force Powers, but because it is so intensely psychological and personal. The real fight is not between Luke and Vader, it is between Luke and Palpatine, for the soul of Anakin/Vader.
Yes and in a way it's Vader and Luke vs Palpatine, who is sitting there manipulating them both. Even though on the surface it appears that Luke and Vader are fighting, see the way that Vader stops Luke from striking the Emperor... he is not protecting him, but protecting Luke from falling to the dark side, which is what Palpatine wants.
FUCK. DISNEY. THIS is the only version of Luke, who redeemed the galaxy's greatest monster because he felt some flicker of good within him, and would go on to marry Mara Jade and found the New Jedi Order.
For me this feeling is that right now happens something terrible, something pre-destined, prophecied. And epic as well. The fall of one more hero of light.
Rught. I dont Vader did that to plead Luke to spare him or anything. It was more like him telling him to calm down for his own good and not join the emperor. Vader’s ulterior motive has been to have Luke join him against tge emperor, nit the other way around. Vader didn't care if he died, it was just a plead for him to stop him on the progressive track he is on.
Well, Vader has been in Luke’s position before. Anakin should’ve spared Dooku, because it was not the Jedi way to kill an unarmed prisoner. In the same manner, Sidious tries to rid himself of Vader’s unrealized potential. But Luke comes to his senses and tosses down his weapon, declaring himself a Jedi in the footsteps of his father.
The parallel between Vader’s missing hand and Luke’s matching, also robotic, black gloved hand is so perfect. A gentle reminder that Luke is one bad choice away from being consumed by the Dark Side, but he continues to fight to protect rather than to attack. Best Star Wars movie
Rught. I dont Vader did that to plead Luke to spare him or anything. It was more like him telling him to calm down for his own good and not join the emperor. Vader's ulterior motive has been to have Luke join him against tge emperor, nit the other way around. Vader didn't care if he died, it was just a plead for him to stop him on the progressive track he is on.
This is without a doubt the best lightsaber duel from the original trilogy. Their choreography perfectly captures their emotion. Luke giving into his anger and fighting in blind rage and Vader, who fights out of devotion, but is clearly holding back. The cinematography, fantastic. The music, fantastic. Just wow
I always felt that Vader was genuinely shocked that Luke went full rage at him, and even more shocked that he refused to fall fully into it... Something he never thought possible... He had proof that it could be done now... So he tried as well...
For Darth Vader the Dark Side was something like an addiction to a drug. Luke's refusal to join the Dark Side was a proof to Vader that he could overcome it too!
It is so good. The final clash is insanely good. This is a cinematic masterpiece. I feel bad for whoever is leading heaven's orchestra, because when John Williams passes, they are out of a job.
It rises like a dread fear at the fearful power of good in us all.. just because you have the enemy backed into a corner and defeated doesn't mean you should beat them to death until there's nothing left. That is how evil changes travels from one form to another.
Man 4:05 onward is probably the best scene in star wars history. This is the conclusion to the Skywalker storyline. Everything was building up to this. Seeing Luke go from being calm to angry and Anakin just fighting back passively and being overpowered by the much younger Jedi. This was starwars at its best.I don't count Disney's horseshit. The music that follows is just incredible. This film was so ahead of its time.
I honestly agree. This was and still is my favorite movie in the franchise. Disney hasn't done as well with Star Wars as they have Marvel. It seems like George Lucas knew what he was doing, and it's a shame he would sell this.
@@carterjames8829 He sold it, I think, because of the whiners and complainers moaning about the Prequels (which I thought were just fine). Now we're in FAR worse shape without him at the helm.
@@KamenRiderGumo I believe you're correct. I have also noticed The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of Sith being heavily criticized (even tho they have the best lightsaber duels in the franchise like Obi-Wan and Qui Gon vs Darth Maul). It seems like the audience didn't realize what they were being given until it was too late.
@@carterjames8829 The prequels were mostly hated because of the dialogue and just people thinking there shouldn’t be any more star wars movies Phantom menace was shit imo, attack of the clones was mid but revenge of the sith was amazing
I love how Luke just handles Vader the second time around. He’s so much more confident in all of his actions even when he lashes out in anger he knows how to compose himself and use his emotions to his benefit.
@@Takaichi666- But still Vader was going easy on him.The goal was to turn him not kill him.Otherwise a trained and very experienced jedi killer like Vader would be too much for Luke to handle at this point in his life and training.
@@valentinivanov7825 nope. Not at all. Vader wasnt trying to kill him and Luke even MORE so wasnt trying to kill his father. Vader was willing to go furthur. At this point, Luke has surpassed Vader and gotten stronger in the mandalorian
@@saileshnaidu8102 I agree that after ROTJ Luke surpassed Vader who was handicapped by his robotic parts limiting his use of the Force but i still think that when they fought Vader had too much experience in killing trained Jedi.
At this point Vader is conflicted. The killing machine of the past few years no longer existed. Anakin started to return and like most fathers really couldn’t raise his hands in true anger against his son. The Vader of pre ESB period would beat Luke due to Luke’s experience but post ESB Vader no longer had as much hate.
4:04 NOTHING will EVER top this sequence for me in all of Star Wars history. The emotion is so perfect, if there was a way to convey the force being distraught by conflict it is the music in this scene. If you could see the force visually you would see energy waves flushing out of every swing from Luke as he dominates Vader's own strength.
This fight has so many great moment in the span of 5 minutes, it also does things in that time better than any other time in the saga 1)The Emporer tempting Luke to the Dark Side 2)Luke kicks Darth Vader in the chest and he flies down stairs 3)Luke refuses to fight 4)Vader sneak attacks Luke saying "it is unwise for you to lower your *defenses*!" 5)Luke's Jedi jumps never get old 6)Luke probes the conflict in Vader, who denies it even exists 7)Vader performs the *first saber throw* in the saga 8)Vader probes Luke's thoughts when he hides, *discovers* he has a sister, and enrages Luke by insulting Obi-Wan again and threatening to turn Leia to the Dark Side 9)Luke uses all his power and anger abd cuts his father's arm off the way his arm was removed, showing that even though they've traveled different paths and arrived in different places in there journeys, they are both quite similar 10)Luke wins and ends the fight (the video ends before this happens)
what I like the most is how their battle begins, I think Vader took his saber out and saved Luke from the Dark Side. it's like Luke wanted to strike down the Emperor, but Vader stopped that because he didn't want his son to become like him, I love that.
@@Nick-zc4po I'd say there's a difference between snapping at the guy who slaughtered all the jedi, killed your mentor, cut your hand off, froze your best friend in carbonite, threatened to turn your sister to evil and was the right hand man of a fascist dictator who murdered millions, and almost killing your nephew because you had a vague feeling he was bad.
Not to mention the footwork. It's something I just noticed, but Luke mostly leads with his right foot, up until he's bashing Vader at the end of the fight. Maybe indicating he's "in the right" up until the point he's "in the wrong", meaning he dipped in the dark side with the "sinister" foot. I'm mostly overanalizing, I know. But it's curious nonetheless.
I love how Revenge Of the Sith and Return of the Jedi is the turning point for our protagonists. Anakin had continued to go into the dark side, following the order to kill Count Dooku, indirectly ascending the time of Count Dooku and was worried about Padmé too much to not think straight, causing him to lose her, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Rex, and all of his friends. Luke had struggled with the dark side and was greyish at this time and was able to resist Palpatine's manipulations, becoming his own person and being the embodiment of what a Jedi should have be. Because of resisting Palpatine's grooming and manipulation, Luke hadn't lost his friends and family and had started a new Order that carried down for generations to come.
Actually this fight is the reversal of Dooku VS Anakin in episode 03: both fights take place in front of Palpatine and end with a cut hand. But while Anakin will let himself to hate and kill his opponent, Luke won't do it.
The way Luke attacks Vader at 4:37 allways give me chills. You can see and feel his *fear* (for Leia's fate), his *anger* (for being betrayed by his feelings) and his *hate* (for Vader and the Emperor).
This scene works so great because it's horribly realistic (in spite of lightsabers, starships, Jedi and Sith, mental rape, etc., ): a just grown-up child who unleashes murderously against his abusive father, because this one is threatening for the umpteenth time the safety of one of their family women! Chronicles records such cases :(
4:20-4:26 in my mind is the single greatest camera shot I have ever seen. I don't know why but putting it all together with the music and the camera panning to this intense duel between two characters that have gone through so much...it just hits hard in my mind. I try not to tear up when watching this just from my love for star wars and how it has impacted my life. Thank you George Lucas and John Williams for bringing me this beautiful scene. 👏
I agree!!! With every word...especially the 😢 part. Gets me all choked up...and I don't mean Force choked either LOL. Got a shirt with Darth Vader and it says "Free Throat Hugs"
Love that final fight scene, Luke just flailing at random directions like a nutter. Vader must be thinking "omg noob do you even know what you're doing? you're just spamming attacks! what happened to coreography and aaaaagh my hand!"
Jared Griffin what I don't get is he cut off Vader's hand a robotic hand.so why the hell would he got so fked up even with his breathing getting all raspy like gulping for air.why would that happen when he lost his hand
He is integrated in a *cybernetic* suit that also acts as a life support system. I assume such a complex piece of technology doesn't handle being cut apart very well. Also, his integration into the suit is not without problems, and he is in constant pain from it +his injuries. He is basically a cripple and Luke just took a wheel off his wheelchair...
This is the first time you see Vader in full retreat in the entire original trilogy. Contrast that with the way he walked through the Hoth base, seemingly unstoppable. Luke's lean body contrasts with the imposing bulk of Vader's cape. For the first part of the shot, Vader's lightsaber isn't hitting its mark. For the next part, Luke seems to have momentum, giving Vader no time to do anything but block while retreating. The shot is a simple pan left, showing the fighters side-by-side, as in a fighting game, with Vader in retreat.
Let’s all appreciate the fact that Luke was unwilling to kill his father or use his anger till his sister was placed in jeopardy. That’s a good brother there.
This is how Star Wars ends. With Vader killing sidious. No question. Just forget the sequels. Edit: Jesus this comment has turned into a war zone. Pls try not to get any blood on my armor, need it clean for the daily crusade.
Damn straight! Because if Sidious survived then it makes Vader's story pointless. It makes those 6 movies pointless. The Disney movies are just badly written fan fiction.
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This fight is better than any in the sequel trilogy for one reason: it’s STORY driven.
Notice how there’s barely any actual fighting going on in all of this. Even in Empire, the real conflict wasn’t really physical, but psychological. And that’s what makes the OT so special, even despite some flaws in Return of the Jedi, like the second act & ewoks.
This segment alone stands out as one of the all time great Star Wars moments, and I love it!
you can't even compare the incredible and intense dialogue throughout this scene to any of the new ones.
Wait, the second act of Return of The Jedi? I would have thought people hated how the first quarter of the movie takes place on Tatooine, within the confines of Jabba’s palace and skiff, just trying to get Han Solo back into the squad.
If I saw this for the first time in 1983, I would have assumed that George Lucas spent a lot of time on that one part of the movie, completely forgot that there was all of Endor and Death Star II to film, and then scrambled to get Endor done quickly while also incorporating the Ewoks for the little kids watching.
Not gonna lie though, I loved Return of The Jedi, especially the final space battle.
itwontcomeout5678 I would probably say that this movie pulls a Rouge One/Endgame move in the sense that the third act makes up for almost any complaint you have had with the movie before... if that makes sense?
Anakin Vs Obi-Wan might be the best visual duel in the saga but this one holds the most meaning.
@@lebronfan8051 that's the first ever scene of star wars i saw as a kid. with the battle of heroes epic soundtrack playing. got hooked
Notice how Vader said “obi wan has taught you well” soon as Luke had the high ground
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He took the high ground not once but twice 😆
Maybe Anakin should've tossed his lightsaber at Obi-Wan, instead of doing that flip.
Nobody realises that Yoda was the one who trained him the most. Also he doesn’t even tell the Emperor cause I bet that would trigger him.
@@TheInvincibleH except in the instance that he's had interaction with Force ghost Obi Wan since ESB. So there's a good amount he still could have learned from him, given that he visited Luke and Yoda often enough.
Luke: It’s over father I have the high ground
Vader: I’m not doing that again
(throws lightsaber)
He learns from his mistakes
“Not this shit again....”
Hello there
aw shit, here we go again
"Obi-Wan has taught you well"
Luke: I don’t wanna fight you dad
Vader: I wouldn’t wanna fight me neither
Pizza time!
Come on Vader, Stop..
either*
Then Vader drops his Saber and starts throwing punches
Martijn Mulder doesn’t nobody learn about double negatives? ...lol
I love how Luke ignores Vader's threats to turn him to the dark side, but loses his shit when he threatens Leia.
He went full protective mode is as dark as a Jedi can get not to destroy but keep those safe
You threaten my sister.
You die..!
In the novelization of ROTJ it goes into what Luke is thinking at that moment. He decides Leia is the only hope if he fails. He can't let Vader get to her. He'll kill Vader and himself to stop that from happening.
Skywalker males go ape-sh*t when it comes to the women in their lives.
Come on, who does not love his sister. (and I didn't meant in in the wrong way.)
The moment Luke yells "Never" and the musical buildup with the fight and everyone still gets me everytime
Same! The anger Luke shows while fighting his father combined with the musical score that plays after Luke yells “Never!” still gives me goosebumps to this day, just like it did when I first saw the movie with my mom back in 2011.
Never gets old
@@scottishpancakes that was probably a combination of the hate he had for him killing obi wan and threatening his sister
Ironically @4:20 the best part
The Chairsofter Pretty much the best Moment in all of Star Wars
I like how Darth Vader keeps bringing up Obi Wan when he fights Luke almost like he's obsessed with him, which makes sense after RotS
I like that too. So many layers to this story
Me But did Vader spend 12 years on Lotho Minor eating trash food to survive?
Probably he wants to taunt Luke to reach the dark side: he killed Obi-Wan just in front of Luke and Luke was strongly upset when that happened.
It's like poetry so it rhymes
And since obi wan taught him barely anything and yoda’s the guy who actually trained him
"Obi Wan has taught you well..."
Luke standing atop the high ground.
The HIGH GROUND shall rule everything
Who would win anakin in a star fighter or obi wan with infinite highground
@@chilling_at_pontiff that means the High Ground is above the galaxy
@Obi-Wan Kenobi General Kenobi!
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Rest in peace, James Earl Jones. You will be missed as the greatest voice actor for the greatest villain in all of cinema history...
Facts rip James Earl Jones
@@NPL4LEboth him and David prowse, the physical actor for Vader.
Sad. And yet there's rumors of a Darth Vader movie.
1:22
*Luke has the high ground*
Vader: "Obi Wan has taught you well."
Josh Siegel haha sw episode three joke
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I love the fact that Vader does the safer option by doing the saber throw instead of engaging Luke at the High ground. It suggest that Vader has learned his lesson when it comes to engaging an opponent who has the high ground.
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
Also, STOLEN COMMENT ALERT!
When Luke yells " Never " and unleashes all his rage on Vader after suggesting he'd turn Leia gives me chills every damn time
Me too. And the music is on point.
Actually, Luke screams "No!!"
@@drunksquirrel2051 No he definitely doesn’t😂 the subtitles AND script say never & it doesn’t even sound that much like no in the first place
He screams "Darth" you peanuts
@@lucaswest5078 uh oh. Is this another Mandela effect?
2:12
Luke Skywalker: It's over father! I have the high ground
Vader: Not this again.. *throws saber*
Philip M your original
Obi-Wan: It's over Luke, i have the high ground.
Luke: What?
Obi-Wan: Nothing.
Lol xD
Philip M
Hello there
This one scene is 100x better than the whole Rise of Skywalker movie
I mean, is not hard
Anyone ever think that Vader actually stopped his son from striking down the Emperor in hate so that he didn’t end up like him?
In my opinion Anakin bounced back for a second here.
Sure, I'm sure Vader certainly didn't want his son to spend decades serving as a slave to the Emperor.
I think I’m a way it was confirmed in one of the sequels
Exactly what I was thinking.
That was my initial thought when I first saw this scene !!
Notice how Palatine said "strike me down and your journey to the dark side will be complete"
Luke goes for him, but is stopped by Vader. Like Vader was preventing Luke from fulfilling the same fate as he once did...signs of Anakin coming back...
😭😭😭
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Vader could've backstabbed the Emperor. Luke alone, or Vader alone maybe couldn't beat the Emperor, but together they could beat him easy. If they had killed him they would both be on the dark side? Is this not what Vader wanted, to rule with his son? If he changed his mind about turning Luke then backstabbing the Emperor seems ideal, but then Vader would stay on the dark side and inevitably Luke would follow? Or was Vader so conflicted that it affected his reason? It seems, for the sake of the story, Vader had to die in order to be redeemed. Him surviving would not have done it. Say he did backstab the Emperor and then turned to the light. What then? That's not enough for redemption, also no one would ever accept Vader back in the rebellion, or new republic or whatever - the "good guys" wouldn't have him that's for sure.
Like when Anakin killed Dooku
@@klauseskelinen8168 Underrated by who? Wyho did underrate it?
Luke: *jumps to high ground*
Vader: *vietnam flashbacks*
*Mustafar flashbacks*
no
*idk flashbacks*
Only because Luke ain't Vader's fortunate son!
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I love how the movie handles Luke's short fall.
it's not the offer of power, or anything like that. Rather it's the fact that wants to protect his sister, it overwhlems him and for a moment he slips and he falls into it. And then seeing his dad's robotic hand, the same to what he has, it pulls him back.
It's the urge to protect his family that pulls him towards the dark side, and it's seeing what the dark side did to his family that pulled him out
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+ PALPATiNE'Z GOATiNG THAT HELPED SNAP HiM OUT OF iT
[NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
In a contrast to the Prequels where Anakin goes through a similar journey. In the first episode, Anakin was selfless, helping a bunch of random strangers with the wise advice of his mother on Tatooine, and again on Naboo when he blew up the Droid Control Ship. Only, unfortunately, Palpatine got his eyes on him, and began the grooming and manipulation. Ten years later, in the second part, Anakin listened to the Jedi not to go back for his mother despite his warnings, being told "dreams pass in time" and other offhanded comments in the novels and comics. When he eventually went back, his mother died in his arms, and the Jedi's lack of understanding basic human emotions led him to his first taste of the Dark Side. His love for Padmé brought him back or else he would have fallen on Tatooine. Palpatine's manipulations persisted throughout the Clone Wars. Having been alienated from Obi-Wan mostly afterwards, their bond was as it could have been. The comment about Anakin saying "Obi-Wan is the closest person he has to a father" is not irrefutable proof that Anakin absolutely saw Obi-Wan as a father figure-it is obviously proof that he *wanted to* but Obi-Wan brushed him off. Anakin is the archetypal *lost boy* who attaches on (rightfully) to any older male authority figure and as sees them as a surrogate father. After AOTC and after this line Anakin never calls Obi-Wan his "father" or anything like it again. By the time of Revenge of the Sith, it is Palpatine to whom Anakin has transferred his need for a paternal figure messed up stuff. Why? Because Obi-Wan had totally refused that role and Anakin, because of various events, no longer felt he should trust him. Just a reminder of the failures of the Jedi Order. In ROTS, his manipulator encouraged him to kill a defeated threat, and he took it as a legal order and did it. He lost sleep, worrying about his wife and child(ren). Like Luke, it was not just about power. It was about wanting to protect the one he loved. Unfortunately, he couldn't pull back before it was too late. Those manipulations piled up, the alienations from his comrades, etcetera, Anakin couldn't bear the stress and all of what he could have lost, and lost it anyhow.
@@aderpydonut I don't think it's him being like "welp we are even" at all really. He isn't fighting to get even but to protect Leia.
He couldn't beat Vader at a full duel.
@@Reverend-Race-Horsey
Yes he could
Vader:
“If you will not turn to the dark side then perhaps she will.”
Luke:
“NEVER!”
Idk why but those lines give me chills.
Daniel DeHerrera same
That’s because Vader will probably do something bad to Leia (idk what exactly) to attempt to turn her to the dark side and Luke’s like “NOPE”
The music with the lines. Music tells you how you are supposed to feel in moments like this.
I always heard it as a sloppy ‘nooo’. Now I can’t unhear never and it feels cringe
@@g1keitorin765 But that was too bad for Vader since Leia died in Rise of Skywalker :(
Luke starts winning - Sith Lord - “gooooood”
Vader starts winning - Sith Lord - “gooooood” 😂😂😂😂
Just cool with it either way lol
Leigh Ramsay and don’t forget goooooooooood 😂😂
Palpatine never stopped playing both sides.
Glad someone notice that.
Goooood...
TROS Palps to Kylo:
Kill the girl
TROS Palps to Rey:
Ah cool you are here
2:46
Luke: *has the high ground* “You couldn’t bring yourself to kill me before and I believe you won’t destroy me now”
Vader: “you underestima- wait a second...”
Oh not this shit again
*Throws lightsaber instead*
Vader: Probably should have done this the first time
Vader: I'm not falling for the same shit twice.
He was confident that the Dark Side could beat the High Ground once. It cost him his limbs.
Ah shit here we go again
Rest in peace, James Earl Jones. No one could’ve voiced Vader better than you did
After Luke shouts “Never!” And the chorus begins is just utterly chilling and amazing
WHOA IS THAT HIT RAPPER AND ARTIST DABABY?
And they say Mark Hamill is a bad actor 🙄
Single greatest piece of music in Star Wars for me.
@@matthewpaul6904 For realz that chorus has always hit so hard when their battling right there, just so good.
@@daustin8888 He's not a bad actor, but he was admittedly the weakest actor of the OT.
Evil vs Good
Old vs New
Father vs Son
*This was the Ultimate Battle.*
new tho😳😳😳😳
Berd high vs low ground
And then disney trilogy happens...
Prequels may not have been perfect, but at least their final duel was just as meaningful and emotional as this one. TROS end battle was just nonsense.
interesting how you realize new becomes old, son becomes father, so will good become evil, with enough time?
Bolek Lolek the disney trilogy never happened SHUSH
Can we just appreciate Ian McDiarmid in this? You can truly FEEL the darkness in sideous, you can feel the weight of his words, his gravitas. A truly incredible performance from a truly incredible actor.
How about when he smiles in delight after saying "and now young Skywalker you will die" and starts frying him again enjoying the pain he he is inflicting.
Well said
McDiarmid just blew my mind in this in 83.he is the devil!
Good, good.
I always loved him.
I love Ian!!
I typically don't get sad about celebrity deaths, but I was truly saddened to hear about the passing of James Earl Jones today. I grew up with Star Wars and always admired his deep, resonant, mellifluous voice (so much so, that I have tried to emulate that voice; the degree to which I have been successful in that regard is up for debate haha). And the facts that he overcame his childhood stutter and rose above the racism of his formative years are so inspiring to me. I am also honored to have shared my birthday with such an iconic actor. Rest in power, James. You lived a good, long life.
Remember guys, this is the only true end for Star Wars.
@@Innersanctum_you can't even tolerate someone's opinion?
@@Innersanctum_ Mate, the "sequels" (calling them that is a joke in and of itself) are what I wipe my ass with after trying to digest the epicness that is Episodes IV to VI.
I agree, there is only One true end with episode 6
The star wars fandom is the worst
Saksham Sharma I think he’s making a joke about prequel memes lol
Something that crossed my mind was that Vader was right. If Luke failed here he would have certainly been able to turn Leia. The death of her planet and finally her brother would definitely tip her over the edge and make her much more susceptible to the dark side
“Only your hatred can destroy me.”
thats exactly what happened in that "What if" comic they made if Luke's torpedo failed to take out the Death Star. Vader and Palps captured Leia again, and found out through the force the truth behind her heritage. They started to train her, and well, she went full sith
I watched the movie again yesterday and i just wonder: Why Lea? Why even Luke? Sidious knew Luke was stronger and wasnt easy to convince to become part of the dark side. It was obvious he wouldnt turn, so the whole dark side aspect was kinda irrelevant. Even more with Lea. She wasnt even a Jedi, why would they try to get her to the dark side?
Im certain vader only said that to anger luke and lure him out of hiding.
@@CODA96 because Luke is the son of the chosen one and has tons of untapped potential power. Palpatine wants the most powerful force user as his apprentice, which he apparently wants to possess at some point. That fight between Vader and Luke was basically a test. between who is the most powerful force user.
When Luke chose the light over the dark, this right here was a temper tantrum if anything. Palpatine finally ad someone who could beat his best servant, and this guy refused to work for him.
@@ethanharmer5151 I still dont get the whole situation at all. Luke had no reason to join the Dark Side. Literally none.
Anakin joined the dark side because he believed he could save Padme with these powers. Palpatine was slowly manipulating him for years about the Jedi Council being corrupt and fueling his hate towards not becoming a master, aswell as his arrogance to be the strongest.
It made perfect sense, but why Luke??? Palpatine neither manipulated him, and neither did they have Lea or Han as a Hostage. Hell, Palpatine even showed him that the rebellion is ''lost'' and everyone would die, if anything thats MORE reason to destroy Palpatine and NOT join the dark side.
I really dont wanna say this, but this just feels like bad writing. Palpatine should have blown up endor while Luke was on it and be done with it. Luke had 0 reason to join him and was stronger than Vader, so Palpatine literally killed himself.
"Obi-wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete." that gives me chills, the huge amount of history in that line alone!
I read that during the scene XD
John williams you fucking amazing artist. The soundtrack is absolutely encapsulating during that final fight
You gotta give it to Palpatine though for respecting the 1v1.
Palpatine was a gamer
Palpatine wanted to know if Luke was powerful enough to defeat Vader(he was).
It's basically the Dooku situation(both scenes are purposefuly similar).
If Luke dies, Palpatine still has Vader as his powerful apprentice and the threat of a Jedi that could surpass Palpatine is gone.
If Luke defeats and kills Vader, he gets an even stronger apprentice.
It's a win-win scenario for him(until Luke refuses to kill Vader, of course)
Wish I could say that for Palpatine mains in hero showdown 🤦♂️
@@grievous8475 fr
He was trying to turn Luke
“I will not fight you” I love Star Wars when it’s handled by the right writers
"I've heard that before"
@@hatman3445 Exactly
" I will not fight you "
Nerd fanboys : " OMMMMMGGGGGG HE TRAINED HE TRAVLLED AND DONT WANNA FIGHT LUKE IS THE MMMMMMMMGGGG HE IS THE GAAAWD "
Then after luke rage a bit swing is sword left to right with no accuracy whatsoever
You fanboys still be like : " OMMMMG SOOOO GOOOD WRITING "
So whats good now that hes the " good guy " or the " raging guy "
Cause in the end he won cause of his rage and not cause hes good xD
The writing in this 3 first movies are so bad.
@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763Vader was threatening his sister. Of course he became angry. He wasn’t thinking.
@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 The writing's not perfect but it's way better than the shit that disney put's out.
I always liked how Luke looks at Vader's missing hand and sees it's machine and then looks at his own machine hand, and realizes he's on his way to becoming his father.
@@IceBlueStarCat Leia managed I guess
And thats also the hand that mace windu lost
I wish Rey got her hand chopped off so she then can truely call herself a "Skywalker"
@@Itsyaboyharry98 and don’t forget about Ben
@@solfighter6447 I'd like to forget
Jesus, coming back here after watching Acolyte content even for 1 minute feels like waking up from a nightmare where you lose all your limbs...
Verdade, uma saga maravilhosa, cheia de coisas que fazem refletir, porém, a Disney destruiu essa saga.
É bom ás vezes se lembrar do que uma cena épica de Star wars é de verdade
I watched the Acolyte and it was pretty good so far. Definitely doesn't top this, but nothing does.
@@aprinceofearthsea4875 totally true, but also it's not the same purpose....this end of he story the aclyote is helping to build. The acolyte is showing how the fall of he jedi begins...Luke is showing its redemption. One is by definition going to be more satisfying then the other.
@@shinzontheta Fair enough, I suppose. But also, Return of the Jedi is my favorite Star Wars movie, so I'm already biased, lmao.
Vader “give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends”
Owen “Like it saved Padme?”
😂
SHOTS FIRED.
Vader might be the Lord of the Sith, but Owen is Lord of the Shade
too orginal
I think he is forced to act like that in front of Palpatine despite knowing that it's false
"i am defenceless"
"you literally have my lightsaber and my cyborg dad guarding you, man fuck off."
CXimines he's goading
....and the full power of the Dark Side.
Imagine if Luke didn't care as much as he did here and went... "Ok fuck this shit Sidious you're too fucking annoying and dangerous to be kept alive, I'm going to kill you because I want to practice my Jedi beliefs in peace!" (Wham!)
Technically, the whole scenes from start of the Throne room was more like a family gathering and deadly argument between Father and Son. Darth Sidious you're a fucking outsider with no business butting into their family affair gtfo man.
Sidious wasn't going to defend himself. He would've willingly been a martyr for Luke's anger to just take his place knowing the only known Jedi just screwed up his chance to make things right.
UltimaKeyMaster If he don't, Luke decided not to kill him out of anger but out of the fact that as long as Darth Sidious stays alive, Luke will never be able to practice his Jedi beliefs in peace.
Then went "meh" at the Dark Side and went to live happily ever after because Darth Vader suddenly doesn't seem to care that much about striking down in anger or not because he's too busy going all over the places telling everyone that he has a son and a daughter.
4:04 When Luke screams "never" and charges vader always gets me. The background music is so powerful. John Williams is a legend and No one can ever really replace him.
ShiftyWolf 117 What’s the song man ?
@@hmzspc Jedis fury.
Very, very true. Although, I'd say that should it ever come to needing a replacement that either Michael Giacchino or Alan Silvestri would be the best choices. Not saying we *need* - or *want* - a replacement of John Williams, but if there ever is one, I'd say it's a choice between Michael and Alan.
Michael Giacchino did damn good in Rogue one
Kein Kiner was amazing with both the clone wars and rebels why not him
The original duels had the incredible emotion. The prequel duels had the awesome choreography. The sequel duels happened.
I kinda liked Ben solo though
They didn't have awesome choreography
We dont talk about the sequels, but disney keep shoveling out complete trash time after time now...
The sequel “””duels””” were just two people swinging glowing baseball bats at each other.
‘Awesome choreography’ 😂
Luke: ah yes, my father who has killed millions is still good.
Also luke: ah yes, my nephew is having a bad dream... *Time to kill a dude.*
Disney logic my man
I know right, he tried talking to Vader at least.
Joe Vines Disney sucks. It’s not real Luke.
Vader hated himself after a lifetime of bad decisions.
Ben was on the edge between dark and light, and the prospect of someone so strong with the force giving in frightened Luke, so much he instinctively drew his weapon. He reigned himself in, but by then his nephew saw all the evidence he needed to commit to the dark.
@@Avenger85438 hence why vader was conflicted but luke saw the light still in him, anyways thats not the point, the point is luke saw good in vader even after everything he did from hunting jedi he once knew and trained with etc to killing children, i would consider killing children a no going back momentm yet even after that luke still saw good in his father, yet luke could not see good in his own nephew and that was without ben drawing his lightsaber to lukes jedi academy
I love how Vader sounds so sadistic when he says "sister"
Me too
pervert
@@robertd4100 bruh hes her father
@@namast3260 that's the idea
@@jaredbremer941 oh dear
0:54 Darth Vader wasn't saving Palpatine... He was saving Luke
YES!! I totally agree. The “good” in him saved Luke right then and there, although at that point he hadn’t fully turned back to the light and was still conflicted. Good call!
I am glad that I am not the only one who had that thought! Also, even though I had already watched the prequels, when Vader prevented Luke to kill Palpatine I came to the conclusion that even as a Sith Lord, Anakin is still the Chosen One, the end of the Sith will come by him not by Luke.
Finally someone else who thinks the same! I’ve said this to so many people and none agreed with me but like it’s so obvious.
I request elaboration. Like was he saving Luke by not letting him kill the Emperor and fall into the dark side? Is that what it means?
@@AyushSharma-hx9sw Yes
Thank you for all your entertainment James! you will be missed!! May the force be with you 💜
After seeing how vader was portrayed in "Jedi Fallen Order" I realize just how powerful luke is to be fighting Vader
But also, Vader was SEVERELY holding back, because he didn't want to kill Luke
Coolio Star Stache so was luke he didnt want to kill his father
and fallen order was decades before battle of yavin New Hope or even ROTJ, and was 5 years after anakin became darth vader, so at the time he was fully more powerful and at great potential as a dark lord. but as powerful as he is even at old age, yes he defintelty still have power but its not as strong as in the past, and yet he was holding back (his dark side feelings too) against luke so luke won.
@@traninhlong7303 but he did go agro for a sec so technically he didn't hold back
@@xylonus vader defiantly didn't hold back in this fight. If he did he would have made kill strikes in this fight.
1:46 “You are unwise to lower your defences”
What I like about this line is that deep down Anakin cares about his sons fighting technique and is ultimately pointing out a weakness in his defence skills
Yep! The father in him cant help but train him!😁💪🏿⚔
And that weakness also shows when Luke later throws his lightsaber, leaving him defenseless against the emperor.
Luke is the better fighter
@@erikssgss7936Not really.
Don't get me wrong, Luke actually is a talented Lightsaber duelist. His lightsaber skill is actually prodigious, and in this fight, he's actually as skilled as Vader in Lightsaber combat. George Lucas even says that Luke and Vader could have an even sword fight at this point in time without Vader stomping him.
That being said, Vader also wasn't trying to beat Luke for a majority of this fight. During their duel on Bespin, Vader literally uses the Force in conjunction with his Lightsaber. If he was actually trying to kill Luke, Vader would have absolutely stomped him.
But because Vader just essentially limited this to a sword fight, Luke actually stood a chance.
Of course, I think if Luke uses the Dark Side, he's better than Vader in pure Lightsaber combat (we even see Vader get genuinely overwhelmed here), but like I said, Vader wasn't trying to kill Luke. He didn't play smart. He just antagonized Luke and made the young Jedi lose his cool.
No father would actually fight at full power against his son, and Vader was literally obsesessed with luke since he thought that he is the only remnant of padme
Emperor was so much better than Snoke
tbh glad Snoke is gone. Kylo is more intresting.
They're both pretty 2d cliché villains and are only there in order to set up Vader or Kylo. But I still love them both.
+Not so awesome guy
Kylo is just a whiny emo Vader fanboy
snoke and kylo visually are rip offs of snape and voldemort
I actually liked Andy Serkis' performance but the character itself is trash.
4:20 the choreography and camera angle is simply brilliant
Agreed
My Dad took me to see this when it first came out in theaters. I lost Dad in March 2020. We didn’t have the greatest relationship, but in the end, as with Luke and Anakin, me and Dad made peace. This movie has more deeper and powerful meaning years later. RIP to ALL Dads, no matter what.
I am so sorry for your loss
Damn son your comment made me cry. Sorry for your dad dude
@@robstyles2675 - Hey, thanks for responding. I don’t know If you have your Dad or not, but I would say make peace with him. We all have a Dad out here, whether we know him or not. The goal is to have peace of mind. That’s everything!
@@kenwigginsii6065 my dad is here we have a good relationship it's just sad to lose ya pops
Sorry for your loss, but I’m so happy you 2 got to reconcile. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
That shot where Luke and Vader are fighting behind the staircase all dark with the green/red lightsabers glowing and the music is my favorite moment in the entire Star Wars saga. I get the chills and want to cry every frigging time!
Then they ruin it with that crappy ending. Vader should have tripped or something and then Luke gets his hand.
@Funnel Star He doesn't even know, that's why he hasn't replied in 4 months lol.
The Vigilant dumbass that reply was a month ago and you say he hasnt replied in 4? Get a fucking brain dude
@@ncrtrooper4104 lmao
@FBI you idiot he’s referring to the first reply on the thread
One interesting detail I love here is that every time we've seen Anakin/Vader in a duel, he always fights aggressively. His lightsaber form emphasizes being on the attack. Whenever he fights Dooku, Ventress, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Cal, Starkiller, Kanan, even Luke the first time. He's always on the offensive. Always on the attack. This is probably the first time we see him in a duel where he's on the defensive.
Agreed. In the last part where Luke embraces his anger and lashes out swinging wildly, Luke is literally thrusting Vader back with every saber to saber push. Vader tries to resist and yet is still pushed back and pushed around. Despite being twice the size of Luke, having equal force powers and having superior robotic strength he is being physically overpowered. Almost sad to watch.
@@BiggerBadderBrian he loses on purpose, look at him the second before he leans to the left and stands still. He has no reason to do so.
@@attilaseyfullah8522 I don't think so. Is the wheezing and what seems to be the breaking down of his life support and grabbing for the railings to support himself also an act? It's a great scene but leaves itself open to too many interpretations.
When it comes down to it, Darth Vader is a child killer and deserves the pasting he got.
@@attilaseyfullah8522 I wouldn’t say he lost on purpose, but rather that I think at this point in his life he had nothing left. He realized Luke would never join him, he knows that Sidious is trying to get rid of him in favor of Luke, and he’s sure that he’s beyond saving. I think he just doesn’t have a reason to fight anymore and just… gives up.
@@attilaseyfullah8522 I think he just got overwhelmed by the sudden shift in fighting posture. He hasn't really had to try much in the last 20 years and certainly hasn't had to expect dueling opponents in the last 20 years to have any real tricks up their sleeves in terms of form. While he is holding back he really was overwhelmed
R.I.P James Earl Jones your voice of Darth Vader and Mufasa 🦁 will remain in the stars ✨ for eternity
I love how Luke and Anakin are basically the same.
The way he taps into the dark side to take Vader down is exactly how Anakin was in the later seasons of Clone Wars.
And, like Luke, Anakin tapped into the dark side a few times in the clone wars to save his"Sister"like Luke does here. Such a good show lol.
They did a few scenes in TCW where Anakin uses several overhanded chops downward which is a nod to how Luke finishes Vader in this scene. They also primarily used the same saber form and are around the same age
No, not basically the same. At the pivotal moment, Luke turned away from the dark side; refused to strike down an evil, yet defenceless, opponant. Anakin meanwhile slaughtered innocent children without hesitation, not to mention murdering defenceless Dooku whilst still ostensibly a follower of the light.
Just like how he did with dooku
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Luke taps into the dark side and momentarily gives into his anger to protect the sister that he loves.
Disney and current Lucasfilm does not and never will understand who Luke Skywalker is. He never would have abandoned his sister or his friends. He never would have given up on his nephew.
The sequels didn’t show Luke as we all know, although The Mandalorian seemed to get him right
”So, the late-2012 idea of a Luke Skywalker haunted by the betrayal of one of his students, in self-imposed exile & spiritually in ‘a dark place’, not only precedes Rian Johnson’s involvement in Star Wars but J.J. Abrams’, as well,”-Phil Szostak,
Luke being a bitter hermit was Lucas' idea all along.
@@AxeCrazyAutobot Bitter hermit because he was betrayed by one of his students, not because he tried to kill his nephew but failed. don't twist it.
@@AxeCrazyAutobot yeah, maybe for a while, but a jedi doesn't give up - Mark Hamil. The Last Jerkoff is SW cancer.
@Megatron Leader of The Decpticons The prequels have ALWAYS been good.
For those arguing Luke did indeed surpass Vader once he used Jedi Fury,fully tapping into the darkside.
The novel itself states that Palpatine himself was afraid of that power being used against him,with Sidious saying Luke could destroy them,with many other sources also sighting this.
The novel also says that Sidious confidence in that moment was an act as Luke looked within him and sensed his fear.
So Luke very briefly attained power comparable to and superior to that of Sidious but once he calms down he loses the rage boost and fatigue also sets in(as it happens after a fight is over and you calm down from rage)leaving him vulnerable,along with dropping his lightsaber like the lovable naive fool that he is.
This is impressive for Vader cause he held his own against this power and Luke still had to put a lot of effort to beat him down,this solidifies that Vader is relative to Sidious power in this film,Lucas statement of EP6 Vader being 80% of Sidious makes a lot of sense under this context.
Without using the darkside Luke was an equal overall tier with Vader but definetly weaker and on the lower end,with him somewhat gaining the advantage by using his aggressive feelings when kicking Vader down.
But normally you can tell Vader has a definitive edge
100% agree. I've said before in conversations with people about this scene that in those fleeting moments during Luke's rage, he could've beaten almost anybody, including Palpatine himself. Palp always knew that a Luke with no restraint would be a threat, but to see it right in front of you makes that threat much more immediate and startling.
4:05 that score is so underrated. The distinct sadness and emotion in it shows how Luke loses himself in his feelings, giving into fear, hate, and even love as he tries desperately to kill his own father to protect his friends… it’s just… perfect
@Carlos It’s called a Jedi’s Fury
It’s not even underrated lol
It’s not underrated stop talking lik that…John Williams is one th most successful composers ever
It’s about as underrated as you are special
@@rileyfriend
There’ll always be some asshole in the comment section talking trash for no apparent reason
In my opinion this is the greatest fight in Star Wars history.... NOT because of how unbelievable the lightsaber fight is, it doesn't blow you away... but because of the way it makes you feel. The emotion. That's what the original trilogy got spot on.
To be fair as much as people complain bout the prequel saber duels which were awesome. After seeing what fans made of the reimagined ep4 vader vs obiwan duel, id love for the same team to redo the OT saber duels in their same style and have george lucas canonize those scenes in new releases.
Meh. Honestly Star Wars is pretty mid. TCW is decent though
OK calm down son
Ikyfl.
@@UghHimAgain ?.....
Palpatine : hey kid,you must join the dark side!!!
Luke : nah
Palpatine : shit,i forget to tell him about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise.
Also palpatine: damnit, does he even know that I am the Senate?
@@wormie077 not yet
@Vansh Ruhela i am the senate
@@MAT589 This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!
@@thatoneturtle7737 the negotiations were short
04:05 man I dont know if its the music or seeing vader struggling and go down but this moment is always instant chills and tears rushing to my eyes.
Vader loved his family. He still had love within him. Luke called him on that when he said, I sense the conflict within you, I don't believe you can bring yourself to destroy me... Luke was right and deep down inside Vader knew it. That's one of the reasons this scene is so powerful. Darth Vader is a total bad ass. He's done very bad things. Yet facing his son in battle caused him to show a tremendous amount of restraint. Because in his heart, he's still Anakin... And Anakin ultimatley turned to the dark side to save the people he loved... I choked up when I watch this scene too. Epic cinema and storytelling for sure! In the end, they did indeed overthow the Empire together.
I absolutely feel the same way. It’s more of a difficult way of saying goodbye to one of the most exciting and unbelievably tough villains and all of history… I love the TH-camr critical drinker and his take on movie villains.
@4:19 - 4:27: One of my favorite shots in the entire franchise. The music, the way Luke stands, the big swooping arcs the lightsabers make before contact, the anger and emotion, the silhouettes, the camera strafe... it's damn beautiful.
AKcelsior agreed. Everything about it is so perfect, I fucking love it.
I think Luke tapped into the saber style that only Mace Windu was known to use - VAAPAD
(im only saying this because Luke did use dark side agression....but he was able to control iit after he had rendered Vader defenceless)
@@Darklord666123 he didnt control his dark side while fighting, he suppressed it afterwards. But who can really tell for sure with this horrible choreography
the music conveys a hero that almost falls
AKcelsior Fr
I love the visual story telling in this scene. Especially when Luke's face is half in the shadow and half in the light as he is tempted by the darkside. Then when he lets his anger get the better of him he is obscured by the shadows and attacks.
Damn that's genius I didn't even notice that
Eh reading too much into it. Luke will never be Anakin he is too just.
Dude I never noticed that, this scene was already my fav but now nothing will ever beat it
That also happens in force awakens when Ben kills Han
Dude, I just made a comment about the same thing. I noticed it a long time ago when watching ROTJ, since it is my favorite movie of the entire Star Wars series. I brought up the "find" utility to see if anyone else possibly noticed this small but VERY crucial "tell" as far as what Luke was internally thinking and the possible future path Luke might take as far as his current choices were about to seal the deal for him.
This very small cut of the scene is pretty much what sealed the deal for me on why my vote goes to ROTJ when saying which Star Wars I like best!!
It really highlights the fact we all have choices in life and even in the most dire of situations, no matter how difficult it seems it might be when considering the consequences of our moment to moment choices, at the very worst it's a 50/50 decision and the easy way out never pays off like choosing what is good for us in the long run!!
Thanks for being "that guy!" I was super duper hoping that someone else picked up on this very small detail given the gravity of the scene and how things turned out afterwards!
This scene hits harder when you have a son of your own. When I was a kid I thought this fight was cool. Now that I’m an adult and a father, I think it’s heartbreaking. The way Luke looks at Vader when sidious is talking to him and his eyes say “dad… please help me.”
Honestly this is one of the best stories in cinema history. George Lucas and his crew did an amazing job. It’s a shame Disney came along and fucked everything up.
Edit: also, Vader wasn’t protecting Sideous from Luke when he blocked his lightsaber. He was protecting Luke from the dark side. Vader saved his son not once, but twice in this scene. He didn’t want his child to share his fate.
Bravo friend, I agree with your observation
Agree
alot of emotion in the original trilogy, and i never thought about vader protecting luke from the dark side by stopping his lightsaber from hitting the emperor, it makes sense
@@The_Chameleon yea you could tell look was going to strike down sedious in that moment, and they being wizards im sure sedious and Vader both felt that strike was genuine
Disney is fine, you're just old. By the time I am your age, you'll be dead. Times change, the past is the past and the old movies are....corny. Stop living in the past, grandpa.
4:20 is my absolute favourite shot in all of Starwars, the camera movement and Lukes desperate anger mixed with the soundtrack gives me goosebumps every time.
A Jedi’s Fury….one of the best pieces of music in cinematic history IMO
Vader: “perhaps your sister will”
Luke: “Nooooooo” *destroys his father*
Vader: “holy shit, why did I speak”
Fun fact: Luke says 'Neverrrrrrr' not 'Nooooooo'
“perhaps your she will” and "argghhhhhhh"
because vader wants to be destroyed
lmao
@@jolkzy2344 That's a lie
4:05 The music, the emotions, the camera angles, everything about this part sends chills through my body
Agreed 🥲
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Camera shots in old movies are just amazing
My favorite part maybe in the whole franchise.
Imagine see the entire 4 hours. That's was sliced down to 2 hours
The anger that Luke felt wasn't an anger of hate, it was one to protect the ones he loves. Much more powerful than Anakin's anger he felt when he wanted to gain power to help those he loved. This movie/scene brings so many emotions that you honestly don't care about the fight itself, rather the battle to save the ones you love from the Dark Side. This movie brings a great moral, it's easy to hate and destroy, but to love and fight for something, someone else is one of the greatest gifts we can give.
But you fail to realize that snger to protect his loved ones is the exact same anger anakin felt when he fell to the dark side.
but at the same time, we see that Luke looks at his own robotic hand and then back to vader's robotic hand to signify that he realizes that anger (no matter where it comes from) will lead him to become like his father, and if he continues then he'll turn to the dark side, hence why he throws away his lightsaber after his realization.
@sonicartzldesignerclan5763
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Love and hatred is ruled in a human brain in the same section what makes both the same feeling but you as human feel it different.
That makes your point pointless.
Righteous anger. Similar perhaps to that of Jesus flipping the tables in the synagogue
@@myamdane6895You're missing the entire point if you think this is righteous anger. This is what Palpatine wanted Luke to do. Luke's fear was triggered, just as Anakin's fear was. Fear is a very unhealthy emotion that can lead to anger and aggression. Understandable aggression? Absolutely. But can it lead to the dark side? Yes. Like Obi-wan said: "Your feelings do you credit, but they can be made to serve the Emperor"
R.I.P James Earl Jones 1931-2024.
I love how Luke's fighting style completely changes when he taps into the Dark Side when Vader taunts him. Before he was playing quicker and more passive, focusing on blocking Vader's attacks and avoiding him with some grace to his moves, not wanting to fight. But when Vader threatens him with Leia, he goes entirely on the offense and starts slashing everywhere, missing a lot of his attacks at first and just constantly attacking Vader, pushing him back and down. And then he just starts beating into his lightsaber like if he were hitting someone with a bat. He went from defensive and elegant avoidance to rage-induced constant striking, every hit just full of anger towards his father. Hamill is very talented in showing just how careless and angry Luke got during the fight.
I rewatching this one so many times
Vader is clearly don't want to fight his son, everything just out of necessity
Yes! The passion of love! "Love is the answer to the dark side." -Yoda
Fighting for love allows one to use anger without falling into dark side bondage. Luke's fighting style, in this sequence, is my favorite of all time by far!
@@conmane3341
Luke also clearly didn't want to kill Vader and was also holding back. Each time he stopped doing so, he overwhelmed Vader.
Ye
You do know that Vader is lukes father right
The music when Luke engages him after Vader mentions his sister is off the chain good! John Williams man
That music always gets me but it’s sad though cuz I watch it over and over again. Sorry Vader. RIP😭😭😭😭😩😩😩😩😩
But when Vader mentioned his sister, I was like,”Vader! Mm ya moron you are an incapable with lord! Ya price of shit!”
jacob romero i always thought the same.
It makes this duel the best in starwars history.
If I remember correctly, it is called "A Jedi's Fury".
2:35 "It's over, father, I have the high ground!"
"Oh, I'm not falling for that one again." **throws lightsaber**
I like how Vader says "Obi-Wan has taught you well" the minute Luke gets the high ground.
That’s actually the canonical reason he threw his lightsaber here
Luke: I have the high ground
Anakin: *Vietnam war flashbacks*
@@Mackllie *Mustafar flashbacks**
Lord Sauron good one 👆👍
"Obi wan has taught you well." As luke holds the ground will always be cathartic to me.
This fight is the most intense and gripping of the whole saga. Not because of skill with the lightsaber or Force Powers, but because it is so intensely psychological and personal. The real fight is not between Luke and Vader, it is between Luke and Palpatine, for the soul of Anakin/Vader.
Another duel of fates
Yes and in a way it's Vader and Luke vs Palpatine, who is sitting there manipulating them both. Even though on the surface it appears that Luke and Vader are fighting, see the way that Vader stops Luke from striking the Emperor... he is not protecting him, but protecting Luke from falling to the dark side, which is what Palpatine wants.
Wow I like that concept I never thought of it this way ...the battle for anakins soul
Excellent observation. The fights were very personal. They felt real.
But it's meaningless because Rey is the chosen one who have to save the galaxy and kill Palpatine, not Vader!
FUCK. DISNEY. THIS is the only version of Luke, who redeemed the galaxy's greatest monster because he felt some flicker of good within him, and would go on to marry Mara Jade and found the New Jedi Order.
Hate on Disney all you want, but at least Mandalorian and Rogue One met our desires.
@@hammerbro1947
Clone Wars???
@@dariusfarrel3228 That too.
Disney. Part of the Empire 😡
I wouldn't say fuck Disney entirely, just the sequel trilogy. I liked everything else they gave us, like the spin-offs, Clone Wars season 7, Bad Batch
Luke: "I have the high ground, father!"
Vader: "Nope, ain't fallin' for that again lol"
Vader: Aw, shirt here we go again
*throws lightsaber*
Right
Josh K lmao😂
RIP Earl Jones, the voice of Vader
One the best musical segments in the history of Cinema. It's one of a kind feeling I cannot describe.
Yorgan Yog It was a creepiness and sadness to it.
The word you're looking for is "Haunting" :) and yes it is
For me this feeling is that right now happens something terrible, something pre-destined, prophecied. And epic as well. The fall of one more hero of light.
Especially at 4:03.
John Williams is a musical god the likes of which we may never see again.
Facccts
HEAD CANON:Vader blocks the lightsaber from killing the emperor cause he doesn't want Luke to turn.
now that you mention it that does make sense i miss the old star wars....
Wow. You are a genius!
True - that was in the books almost 30 years ago when I read polish translation!
Yeah, Anakin didn't want his son to turn into him. He basically save the entire galaxy from a dark Luke.
Perhaps, but it isn't like the Emperor would have let Luke hit him anyway.
He wants a new apprentice, not someone to replace him.
I love how when Vader is defeated he puts his hand out almost to say "Don't fall into the same trap i feel into." Love it.
Rught. I dont Vader did that to plead Luke to spare him or anything. It was more like him telling him to calm down for his own good and not join the emperor. Vader’s ulterior motive has been to have Luke join him against tge emperor, nit the other way around. Vader didn't care if he died, it was just a plead for him to stop him on the progressive track he is on.
Well, Vader has been in Luke’s position before. Anakin should’ve spared Dooku, because it was not the Jedi way to kill an unarmed prisoner. In the same manner, Sidious tries to rid himself of Vader’s unrealized potential. But Luke comes to his senses and tosses down his weapon, declaring himself a Jedi in the footsteps of his father.
Also that's the umpteenth time he lost that same arm/hand 😅
The parallel between Vader’s missing hand and Luke’s matching, also robotic, black gloved hand is so perfect. A gentle reminder that Luke is one bad choice away from being consumed by the Dark Side, but he continues to fight to protect rather than to attack. Best Star Wars movie
Rught. I dont Vader did that to plead Luke to spare him or anything. It was more like him telling him to calm down for his own good and not join the emperor. Vader's ulterior motive has been to have Luke join him against tge emperor, nit the other way around.
Vader didn't care if he died, it was just a plead for him to stop him on the progressive track he is on.
The battle between Father and Son... Even the Emperor laughing in the background. A moment of truth regret and forgiveness. Beautiful.
This is without a doubt the best lightsaber duel from the original trilogy. Their choreography perfectly captures their emotion. Luke giving into his anger and fighting in blind rage and Vader, who fights out of devotion, but is clearly holding back.
The cinematography, fantastic.
The music, fantastic. Just wow
Harry the cat That one tracking shot when Luke gives in to anger is so underrated
The best lightsaber duel ever is with Anakin vs Obi wan
@@cesarporras9255 "the best lightsaber duel of the original trilogy"
Harry the cat yes I know I’m just saying the best duel ever is anakin and obi wan
@@cesarporras9255 ohh, sorry dude. I thought you were correcting me
"..then perhaps she WILL"
Luke: "NEVER!!!"
Vader: (gasp)!
Surprised Pikachu face
It was at this moment Annie knew...he fucked up.
Me: *O h s h i t*
He doesn't say 'Never", he just yells
@@dostap7748 yes he does listen again
I always felt that Vader was genuinely shocked that Luke went full rage at him, and even more shocked that he refused to fall fully into it... Something he never thought possible... He had proof that it could be done now... So he tried as well...
Beavernator you know that Vader was holding back during the whole fight, right?
Charlene Chartrand umm...no, definitely not in canon
Hidden Eagle1 Vader fanboy
For Darth Vader the Dark Side was something like an addiction to a drug. Luke's refusal to join the Dark Side was a proof to Vader that he could overcome it too!
@@BlyUehara37 No Vadar was Conflicted. Lol
We have lost another legend , may he become one with the force...
Idk how but the music is just totally on point
John Williams man
It is so good. The final clash is insanely good. This is a cinematic masterpiece.
I feel bad for whoever is leading heaven's orchestra, because when John Williams passes, they are out of a job.
One word: CHILLS
It rises like a dread fear at the fearful power of good in us all.. just because you have the enemy backed into a corner and defeated doesn't mean you should beat them to death until there's nothing left. That is how evil changes travels from one form to another.
Agreed it’s so underrated
Man 4:05 onward is probably the best scene in star wars history. This is the conclusion to the Skywalker storyline. Everything was building up to this. Seeing Luke go from being calm to angry and Anakin just fighting back passively and being overpowered by the much younger Jedi. This was starwars at its best.I don't count Disney's horseshit. The music that follows is just incredible. This film was so ahead of its time.
Disney took the heroes journey and jizzed all over it
I honestly agree. This was and still is my favorite movie in the franchise. Disney hasn't done as well with Star Wars as they have Marvel. It seems like George Lucas knew what he was doing, and it's a shame he would sell this.
@@carterjames8829 He sold it, I think, because of the whiners and complainers moaning about the Prequels (which I thought were just fine). Now we're in FAR worse shape without him at the helm.
@@KamenRiderGumo I believe you're correct. I have also noticed The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of Sith being heavily criticized (even tho they have the best lightsaber duels in the franchise like Obi-Wan and Qui Gon vs Darth Maul). It seems like the audience didn't realize what they were being given until it was too late.
@@carterjames8829 The prequels were mostly hated because of the dialogue and just people thinking there shouldn’t be any more star wars movies
Phantom menace was shit imo, attack of the clones was mid but revenge of the sith was amazing
4:19 This travelling may be the best shot in the entire Star Wars saga.
That scene is fucking awesome!
I also enjoy the scene with the imperial officers in rank as the camera pans to jerjerrod walking to greet the arriving vader.
ive always always always thought that too since i was a kid. Loved seeing that scene travel across screen. its done epic.
It is
Music is on point
Who’s here after James Earl Jones passing?
I love how Luke just handles Vader the second time around. He’s so much more confident in all of his actions even when he lashes out in anger he knows how to compose himself and use his emotions to his benefit.
I noticed that to his first fight he struggled then we have this fight he’s calm and focused
@@Takaichi666- But still Vader was going easy on him.The goal was to turn him not kill him.Otherwise a trained and very experienced jedi killer like Vader would be too much for Luke to handle at this point in his life and training.
@@valentinivanov7825 nope. Not at all. Vader wasnt trying to kill him and Luke even MORE so wasnt trying to kill his father. Vader was willing to go furthur. At this point, Luke has surpassed Vader and gotten stronger in the mandalorian
@@saileshnaidu8102 I agree that after ROTJ Luke surpassed Vader who was handicapped by his robotic parts limiting his use of the Force but i still think that when they fought Vader had too much experience in killing trained Jedi.
At this point Vader is conflicted. The killing machine of the past few years no longer existed. Anakin started to return and like most fathers really couldn’t raise his hands in true anger against his son. The Vader of pre ESB period would beat Luke due to Luke’s experience but post ESB Vader no longer had as much hate.
4:04 NOTHING will EVER top this sequence for me in all of Star Wars history. The emotion is so perfect, if there was a way to convey the force being distraught by conflict it is the music in this scene. If you could see the force visually you would see energy waves flushing out of every swing from Luke as he dominates Vader's own strength.
The music always hits hard
@@travpatrick6512It's John Williams. If we didn't use his music for movies, it'd be as revered as the likes of Beethoven and Mozart were.
This was a massive part of my childhood and I remember it better than most of my education
That's right Luke protect your sister. Kill Father protect Sister from abusive manipulating burned scarred up weak man.
Music be S tier
4:21 is probably one of the greatest shots in all of cinema history.
Yeah I'm enjoying the view of those stairs too.
@@Golemoid 😂😂😂
Those damn stairs always bother me. But I agree. That 30 second sequence after Vader brings up Leia is on a whole nother level
YES THE BEST PART EVER IN STAR WARS
What’s the song at that part
3:45 I never noticed before, but you can almost see the fear on Luke's face when Vader finds out about Leia.
"It's over, father! I have the high ground!"
"I'm not falling for this shit again"
2:37
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This fight has so many great moment in the span of 5 minutes, it also does things in that time better than any other time in the saga
1)The Emporer tempting Luke to the Dark Side
2)Luke kicks Darth Vader in the chest and he flies down stairs
3)Luke refuses to fight
4)Vader sneak attacks Luke saying "it is unwise for you to lower your *defenses*!"
5)Luke's Jedi jumps never get old
6)Luke probes the conflict in Vader, who denies it even exists
7)Vader performs the *first saber throw* in the saga
8)Vader probes Luke's thoughts when he hides, *discovers* he has a sister, and enrages Luke by insulting Obi-Wan again and threatening to turn Leia to the Dark Side
9)Luke uses all his power and anger abd cuts his father's arm off the way his arm was removed, showing that even though they've traveled different paths and arrived in different places in there journeys, they are both quite similar
10)Luke wins and ends the fight (the video ends before this happens)
Chandler Carrier definitely agree the writing was better back then
what I like the most is how their battle begins, I think Vader took his saber out and saved Luke from the Dark Side. it's like Luke wanted to strike down the Emperor, but Vader stopped that because he didn't want his son to become like him, I love that.
@@Nick-zc4po I'd say there's a difference between snapping at the guy who slaughtered all the jedi, killed your mentor, cut your hand off, froze your best friend in carbonite, threatened to turn your sister to evil and was the right hand man of a fascist dictator who murdered millions, and almost killing your nephew because you had a vague feeling he was bad.
When even Mark Hamill, the actual actor, says that it was out of character, I'd say it's pretty safe to say it's out of character.
Not to mention the footwork. It's something I just noticed, but Luke mostly leads with his right foot, up until he's bashing Vader at the end of the fight. Maybe indicating he's "in the right" up until the point he's "in the wrong", meaning he dipped in the dark side with the "sinister" foot.
I'm mostly overanalizing, I know. But it's curious nonetheless.
I love how Revenge Of the Sith and Return of the Jedi is the turning point for our protagonists.
Anakin had continued to go into the dark side, following the order to kill Count Dooku, indirectly ascending the time of Count Dooku and was worried about Padmé too much to not think straight, causing him to lose her, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Rex, and all of his friends.
Luke had struggled with the dark side and was greyish at this time and was able to resist Palpatine's manipulations, becoming his own person and being the embodiment of what a Jedi should have be. Because of resisting Palpatine's grooming and manipulation, Luke hadn't lost his friends and family and had started a new Order that carried down for generations to come.
At least in legends for that last part, oh well
Simple story arc
Disney: Say what now?
Until it was destroyed again
Actually this fight is the reversal of Dooku VS Anakin in episode 03: both fights take place in front of Palpatine and end with a cut hand. But while Anakin will let himself to hate and kill his opponent, Luke won't do it.
R.I.P James Earl Jones ❤ thank you for voicing our fallen jedi 🙏🏽
The way Luke attacks Vader at 4:37 allways give me chills.
You can see and feel his *fear* (for Leia's fate), his *anger* (for being betrayed by his feelings) and his *hate* (for Vader and the Emperor).
This scene works so great because it's horribly realistic (in spite of lightsabers, starships, Jedi and Sith, mental rape, etc., ): a just grown-up child who unleashes murderously against his abusive father, because this one is threatening for the umpteenth time the safety of one of their family women! Chronicles records such cases :(
The thing at that scene is Vader can easily beat Luke but he just wanted to lose because he loves his son ❤️
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Misconception.
4:20-4:26 in my mind is the single greatest camera shot I have ever seen. I don't know why but putting it all together with the music and the camera panning to this intense duel between two characters that have gone through so much...it just hits hard in my mind. I try not to tear up when watching this just from my love for star wars and how it has impacted my life. Thank you George Lucas and John Williams for bringing me this beautiful scene. 👏
Luke was on the verge of turning to the dark side. Skywalkers have anger management issues.
George Lucas probably opposed this shot for not having as many special effects
@@yanava I saw an old interview where he said this was personally his most emotional scene in all of them.
I think Revenge of the Sith tried to do a similar shot with anakin and obi wan but didn't quite get the feels of this one
I agree!!! With every word...especially the 😢 part. Gets me all choked up...and I don't mean Force choked either LOL. Got a shirt with Darth Vader and it says "Free Throat Hugs"
Love that final fight scene, Luke just flailing at random directions like a nutter.
Vader must be thinking "omg noob do you even know what you're doing? you're just spamming attacks! what happened to coreography and aaaaagh my hand!"
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Darth Vader: pro gamer
Luke: button masher
4:35 And yeah, the way he just gives up there. So staged
+Jared Griffin exactly
Jared Griffin what I don't get is he cut off Vader's hand a robotic hand.so why the hell would he got so fked up even with his breathing getting all raspy like gulping for air.why would that happen when he lost his hand
He is integrated in a *cybernetic* suit that also acts as a life support system. I assume such a complex piece of technology doesn't handle being cut apart very well. Also, his integration into the suit is not without problems, and he is in constant pain from it +his injuries. He is basically a cripple and Luke just took a wheel off his wheelchair...
RIP James Earl Jones, thanks for everything
4:19 - 4:27 , probably one of the best shots in cinema history
i agree
That is what I keep coming back to this clip for. The music makes it perfect. It gives the feeling of tragedy.
4:25 that drum roll tho
I showed this in a class once,nobody like it but the teacher agreed that it is a very well shot scene that a lot of filmmakers don’t do anymore.
This is the first time you see Vader in full retreat in the entire original trilogy. Contrast that with the way he walked through the Hoth base, seemingly unstoppable.
Luke's lean body contrasts with the imposing bulk of Vader's cape. For the first part of the shot, Vader's lightsaber isn't hitting its mark. For the next part, Luke seems to have momentum, giving Vader no time to do anything but block while retreating. The shot is a simple pan left, showing the fighters side-by-side, as in a fighting game, with Vader in retreat.
Let’s all appreciate the fact that Luke was unwilling to kill his father or use his anger till his sister was placed in jeopardy. That’s a good brother there.
I think that Vader provoked him on purpose.
yeah, even better when he is her stepbrother, eh American?
This is how Star Wars ends. With Vader killing sidious. No question. Just forget the sequels.
Edit: Jesus this comment has turned into a war zone. Pls try not to get any blood on my armor, need it clean for the daily crusade.
Star Wars ends with the Teddy Bear aliens singing Yub Yub
They happened. Accept it.
Jonathan Dauterman the dark side of the force is the pathway to many abilities some consider to be.... unnatural....
God has spoken.
Damn straight! Because if Sidious survived then it makes Vader's story pointless. It makes those 6 movies pointless. The Disney movies are just badly written fan fiction.
There's more good writing, dialogue, great music and emotional impact in these handful of timeless scenes, than the entirety of Disney Star Wars…