This might be a small thing for some but for those like me who wear polarized sunglasses, the Razr is a huge winner because it doesn't exhibit the weird rainbow effect that makes the Samsung almost unusable. That's a gamechanger for me!
This is one of the most helpful videos I've ever watched comparing these phones. The head-to-head comparisons of all the features were really thorough and I appreciate that immensely, especially the comparison of the cover screens. The Razr's cover screen functionality alone is probably enough to sell that one to me over the Flip 5, that sort of Baby Mode of the Flip 5 cover screen already made me feel borderline enraged haha, whereas being able to do virtually anything on the cover that you can inside, including adjusting your pulldown settings, sounds like exactly what I want. (Plus, I despise Samsung's internal ecosystem, and I'll take any excuse to stay far away from it.) Thanks for the great video. Very insightful.
Finally someone mentioned the real difference of usability between those two phones. I went to the motorola froma flip 3 exactly because I wanted more of that front screen and I barely need to open the phone now, which also results in less battery consumed. I compared the new motorola to my flip 3 for a couple of days(regarding the camera) and actually I prefered the results from motorola most of the time, except for sunsets and video. The flip 3 processed the sunsets beatifully, while the motorola's processing was really bad. BUT I kind of found a solution for this, too. Installed some latest gcam port and now it's rocking the photos, too.
It's almost like there is a benefit to producing a review based on genuine use and knowledge of a product as opposed to a spec sheet, four photos, a video, a benchmark, and a few hours of use like MKBHD.
Most of Motorola's issues with the camera are software related. There are many great 3rd party camera apps that processes the image better than Motorola's camera app. The sensor itself isn't bad, though. It's almost comparable to let's say, an iPhone 12. I feel like the camera quality through Instagram, Snapchat, and Facebook look much better than taking a picture through the stock app. It's such a minor issue though, you would have to be very picky to notice any difference. To the average consumer, the camera will be more than adequate to do the job. Most apps will compress the image quality anyways, so having the better camera on the Z-Flip will still be kind of pointless.
@@Junispro31 I’m going to go to the ATT store and see if they will me download goodlock and trying. I’m a huuuuge moto fan. From the OG droid to the first 2 moto x phones. I want to like this. I’ve had an iPhone for the past 3 years. Miss Android and interesting fun phones.
@@sexyscientist none. I’m too far gone into the apple ecosystem at this point. Literally it would take 40-60 hours of effort to just get everything over from a data perspective not to mention having to adjust and then there is the fact that it would render most of the functions of my other devices worthless. It’s a damn shame.
Wow man, that disclaimer regarding the duration of experience with the phones and the relationship with the companies was fantastic. I really wish every reviewer did this at the end of the video. Thank you so much for being honest with your viewers. Very through review.
This is a great review. The phones are so different and similar at the same time. If Samsung include the "continue when close" feature I will love it! But I do love when it's closed it's the separation of using a whole when im trying to stay focused that i need. I wanted the razr for the nostalgic feel. I'll wait to see what the flip 6 is all about.
Currently a Z Flip 3 owner. I thought I wasn't going to like the 5, cause the only thing that's different is the outer screen, but when I held the model unit, I was sold. It feels so solid. But I have a 5 year phone rule now. So this phone will be with me for a few more years.
Time to break that rule! ;) Flip 5 is indeed awesome and Michael nailed it in his review. Samsung's trade in deals are awesome too. Which is something to consider when thinking over breaking that rule!! Ha! :)
Just dont drop that phone like i did my Flip 4, I litteraly only had my flip 4 for only 2weeks and dropped it in the house 1foot from the ground and now my phone only opens up half way. Im pissed 😠. This was my first flip phone since the old days. I dont know if I can trust to buy another even if its the 5
ordered a Flip 5 in the Black Friday sale, think that'll be really good for my use case. if I want to do real photography I'll just use a real camera and the photos are good enough for social media and sharing with friends; and I actually prefer Samsung's cover screen approach, hoping more friction to using apps compared to Moto will help addressing my phone addiction and building a healthier relationship with the thing instead of just continuing doomscrolling after closing the big screen
Excellent video sir. I'm at 6 full days with the Flip 5 and I'm pretty impressed. Camera is meh, but I'm working with it. I absolutely love the smallness factor when it's in my pocket, sitting on a table and in the truck. I don't have to keep smacking it when I change radio stations.
I have both and I regret getting the Flip, at least in its current condition. The app that lets you use most others on the cover screen is region locked and not available everywhere. There are no alternatives. I got to the point where I have to create a "Routine" just to be able to turn on my hotspot for my Navigation in the car on the cover screen. As you mentioned, even the swipe down mini menu is extremely limited. I think the RAZR wins as it comes ready and able from the box with no extra apps that may or may not be available needed.
I've been an iphone 7/SE user forever! And iphones before that as well. I haven't had to make a real shopping decision for a cell phone in over a decade! And these flip phones are the first thing that have made me consider changing gears in a looong while. So it's stressful to wonder if I'll pick the wrong thing for my preferences. Thank you for the extremely thorough comparison that helped me answer a lot of questions about how these two phones differentiate themselves from each other.
One benefit of the Razr is the Moto Actions. You can shake to turn on the flashlight and walk around like you're using the impactical flashlights from TNG.
Yeah, I used to have a Moto G, Moto G4+ and the G5+ and I STILL miss that gesture My pixel 6 has the double tap the back to turn the flashlight on but it's not as good and it turns itself off sometimes inconveniently due to a time limitation
This is the video I've been waiting for, thank you! Helped me decide to just get an S23 Ultra to replace my poor old Note 9. Maybe next year's model will be the flip phone I've been hoping for 😅
For someone that is intrigued by this style of foldable for the purpose of using my phone less (silly, I know), the flip cover screen sounds like a much better choice
I agree! I got the fold 3 for that reason and it helped a little. I think this would really help. For me, the full use front screen is useful enough to do most things, but still be mildly annoying enough to keep me from scrolling endlessly. All while still having "regular" phone when actually needed.
@@TheMrMobileI think for that reason the Flip 5 is even better, as you are able to do more "non entertainment" things on the front screen and thereby use the full phone less.
Razr+ is better since you can run any app in external screen, and the battery i had no problem with it, i'm able to use it for a day & half, even after some heavy use, it's so much better than Flip 5 which really struggles when used for long (it tends to overheats easily, and this is something i'm still shocked to this day, samsung haven't fixed this for years, what a shame for a big company name like Samsung) @@thisismyhandleyouknow
Best comparrison video ive seeing. I have both. I'd easily go with the Moto. They only 2 slight advantages of the flip is the newer processor and the build quality. It does feel more sturdy. The screen crease is also much more noticeable on the flip. It's not a good look.
Almost was going to replace my S23 for flip 5 , but suddenly I realise that I love my S23 much more than what I have thought. Usability is more important factor than style anyday. Razor + or 40 ultra what may be is more attractive than flip 5 no doubt. Let's see what OnePlus open brings to the table. I think I should wait a couple of years before this foldables get refinement and becomes capable to replace completely the slab phones S23 and S23 ultra currently I am in.
I actually did that! Had the flip 5 for about 48 hours and decided to keep my s23 and return the flip 5! I hated the form factor of the flip 5, and my s23 was a much better device overall!
Big agree. I've been rocking the Z Fold 3 for over a year now, and while I love it, if functionality is important, stick with your slab for now. Apps still aren't super well optimized for folding phones yet, though they are getting there. Also, unless you're a power user and/or working in a corporate environment, there really aren't a ton of use cases that justify the cost of the Fold. I use the big screen to watch TH-cam and show off pictures, occasionally for Google Sheets or Docs. If you're an average user, you're mostly paying for the novelty. Granted, if you're like me, the novelty is worth the cost lol.
@@bansheebacklash3730the galaxy folds imo are a joke of themselves and we will see that when the pixel fold makes samsung rethink things. We will either see a form change of the z fold line up or we will see a replacement line up soon because pixel did what samsung refused to do with the fold line.... Make the outer screen useable
@@Sos4R4y You've obviously never used a Fold in your life. It's amusing how the Internet brings out clowns who give opinions on something they know absolutely nothing about. By the way, the Pixel Fold has lousy app optimization when unfolded, with thick black screens surrounding the apps, unlike the Fold 5. Also it can break much more easily. Meanwhile, the Fold has always passed the Jerry Rig tests.
Because I was unable to get the original razr some decades ago this Razr will be my first moto clamshell. I was waiting for moto to give us a screen that covered the whole front and allowed more productivity. But honestly the biggest selling point for me is having that logo on my clamshell finally. My daily driver will remain to be my slab Google pixel 7 pro with the Razr coming out when I want to flex something nobody else has.
I wanted to try the flip factor again as an old flip head, bought the Razr 5G and now Razr+ in blue, beautiful phone and outer display functions are outstanding, only wish the U.S. release had included the same features as th Chinese version which has a open and closing sound tone, Tent Mode / Always on Display and supposedly rotating outer display, also that they also included a charger and matching protective outer case covers, I just ordered a Samsung Flip 5 also in blue, I know I will also like, but the Motorola Razr + to me has a more wow factor in design and outer display, I am not a heavy power user and my older Motorola 5G still works flawless and to my eyes still the sexiest feel and design appearance, Motorola brought me back to appreciate flip phones again.
It gets warm if you spend significant time streaming, live video calls, maps, games or other apps that drain a battery rapidly but so did my iPhone 11 Pro Max and current 13 Mini, this is not an issue for me, these are not big batteries, I will see how the Flip 5 is on heavy battery drain usage when it gets delivered but I will expect and accept the same result.
Aod on the small screen is my only complain for this phone, why'd they lock that away to China 😢 what does the tent mode do? At least we got the extra hardware here in Europe
That sneaky LGR at the end.... Noice 😏 Like many have said, please keep up the excellent work Michael! I love your depth, your focus on details that matter (and those that don't but are still small quality of life things), and the excellent script writing and production. Forever my number 1 trusted source on reviews 😁
I've Had my Razr+ for about a week now and I'm loving it! Seen both reviews and comparison between the 2 phones before ultimately making my decision. The Razr+ won me over!
I got my razr+ about a week ago now too and I'm so happy with it. Another perk is very minimal bloat compared to Samsung that's full of it. . . Which was the main reason I returned my zflip.
Nice. This is what I wanted when flips came back. But I think I will wait for the Flip 6, which I know they have all ready by now, where all the kinks have been ironed out, and will be announced in 5-6 months time.
Hey Michael! Thank you so much for your time, energy, and money poured into this video for our entertaining purposes, i truly appreciate it. You always output quality content, i have seen lots of reviews on the Z Flip 5 and Motorola Razr, but yours is the one that is unique. - Thank you again for your unique review!
Great as always! I was debating both, but what edged me to the flip 5 was the trade in incentive, ultimately, it cost under 400 with the trade in of my S23 and the upgrade to 512 gb, sold it for me, if moto really wanted this phone in people's hands, they would have given you more than 200 for the S23, where samsung gave me 600, huge difference
No kidding. The trade-in values are insane. With my S22 as trade bait, I was able to get the Flip5 superior matte color with 512 gb AND the watch 6 classic, both for about $500!
With the Fold 5 (and probably Flip 5 too) I feel Samsung foldables finally left the prototype phase. You can put it next to any S series phones and you won't really see the difference, no apparent HW limitations. The Fold 2 before worked for 2.5 years, and it's new owner is happy with it. But I feel lucky there and I was always a bit nervous that it can break. With the Fold 5, it feels like a regular phone that works through it's whole 4-5 years SW support. Even if there are strange HW omissions (like fast charging), Samsung is still the benchmark when it comes to foldables.
To be fair, at this point they're the same price as a lot of flagship devices, the Razr and Flip are only 200 more than the galaxy s23, So it's honestly to a point where it isn't really a matter of price, especially if you're going through a service provider like at&t or Verizon.
What about the long-term reviews? The early Samsung screens cracking was pretty damning, though after a couple years of heavy use my Razr 5G is also starting to develop a nick in the inner screen that I worry will become a crack. If that happens, which company can offer the better durability in their modern iterations?
There’s things about both phones I like but I chose the Flip 5 because I wanted the newer processor. The Moto’s higher refresh rate was very tempting tho
i choosed the Moto because for me even though its not the newest, its faster than the Flip 4 and when the screen is on you literally cant see the hinge
3:44 I like that you can literally see the difference in hinge quality as your sister(in-law) stuttered trying to open up the motorola as if she hit an invisible bump during the process.
I've had all the flip phones, from the Z Flip 5G to the 3 and the 4, and then the Razr 5G and now the Razr+, and I skipped getting the Flip 5 for now. I think the Razr is just as nice as the Samsung, even if the software isn't as useful, but I love the coverscreen, and I've never had an issue with it calling someone or anything in my pocket, and my dad has the same Razr+ I do and neither has he 🤷 but definitely a close fight!
I love Motorola's innovation and Experimentation in the mobile space since the Moto Mod and Moto X. Why can't we restore some of that energy and have more long term software support for the midrange. Been sad since they left Google
It'd be cool to see Moto innovate in the folding space more, Or even go fully crazy and try something akin to the LG wing for one of their flagship models one year. It's crazy that already a brand new, high tech sector of design is already feeling tired and same'y. Moto Mods were cool and while they ultimately didn't make the mark they wanted to, They did inspire innovation all round, especially with things like dual screen devices, battery standouts like the Note and Galaxy Ultra series, and even Motorola's own Stylo series. It feels weird then that when given another opportunity to go big, with at the least successful sales as one of the three biggest names in mobile, they'd play it so safe when they finally have another opportunity to be a proper stand out with some staying power. It just feels like we're in an age where while everyone is doing the exact same things, Moto, the reinventor of the flip phone, could make something as big and popular as the Razr was back when it released first.
Excellent video as always. I'm starting to see flips and folds as a true consumer product now. Partly because of your videos and you essentially documenting the evolution of form factor. 👍
Yes the Razr+ can't beat nor threaten the Z Flip5 by simply existing, but looking back few generations of Razr they have definitely improved a lot, especially in their hardware! Imagine if Motorola doesn't exist, Samsung wouldn't even bother to increase their cover display size!
The last part of your comment is what leads me to believe Samsung is a company that lacks creativity. They are probably the first to push out high tech but they are not good at packaging it. This is why their phone designs have always evolved around what Apple does and now with foldables they evolve around Motorola and soon with Google. The good thing is other companies are not following Samsung and are actually being creative and finding ways that they can improve without copying. While Samsung started the whole foldable thing they are not the ones who will make it evolve into a form that will be accepted and replace normal phones.
@@Marco-em2inmicro changes happen so that they have something else to improve for their next phone. They are already making a phone right after the new one has been released. With that said. The criticism they listen to are the people from 2 generations ago (z flip 5 is an improvement of z flip 3 while the z flip 4 is from z flip 2 hence why the people were confused when z flip 4 didn't have a better cover screen even when they have been requesting it a year ago and it only came to z flip 5). This formula rarely changes. With that said even without competition they will do the same in my opinion, because z flip series has been one of the flip phones that still is trying to hit mainstream market even when no other companies had to balls to even bother. Just look on their perspective. If you made the best phone you can ever make, then how do you one up the next year? You can't so become a disappointment. S22Ultra and S23Ultra is the best example.
Im glad Motorola is still making their RAZR and Google finally joined the US folding market. Samsung really needs to be pushed to innovate more. They have gotten very lazy over the past few years, even MKBHD said this
@@Marco-em2inNo Samsung didn't started the foldable thing. Royale was on the verge of invention but they heard that somehow Samsung was following the tail. So they hurriedly developed flexpai, but Samsung's was a better product though you can argue about the display,yet that the reason they're are given so much fame for that.
@@GauravMishra9200you are wrong. Samsung start teasing Fold before Flex Royale came out. Their RnD start since 2011. Royale just want to become the first company to sell its fold and not really want to sell it exectly.
Used this video to help make the switch from an iPhone 13 Pro Max to the Razr+. Saw the Razr at Best buy and fell in love with it. Thanks to all the videos you've made in the Razr, I felt pretty comfortable in my choice. Thanks and keep it up!
Really love the Z Flip, I've had my Z Flip 4 for about a year now, and the Z Flip 5 looks like a warranted upgrade from it. However, until they put a better camera on it I think I'm gonna go S23 ultra next. They put a better camera on Z Flip phone though, and I might be a life-time subscriber to the Z Flip line.
This was a great phone battle Mr. Mobile. If not for the sweet deal I got for the Pixel Fold, this would've been a tough call to see which flip phone I would get as an upgrade to my Z Flip 3. Based on the camera, that might have kept me in the Samsung ecosystem because I love to take photos and videos and Samsung had a good camera for a flip phone. But my Pixel Fold would crush those two flip phones in that department and I could not be happier about the decision I made going to the Pixel Fold. I would love to see you do a similar battle between the Pixel Fold and the Z Fold 5.
Erm..still firmly an Apple 🍏 girl here. But always interesting to see what’s currently happening out there in Androidsville. Thank you for posting vid - just love the Techo ones. ~ from Oxford, UK 🇬🇧
Great review Mike, i always enjoy your videos. I'm surprised you didnt talk much about the Samsung UI, that's the main reason I'm going with the Flip 5.
I went for my first foldable to be Razr + because 1. Nostalgia towards my V3 back in a day 2. 144Hz outside screen + 165Hz inside screen VS Samsungs 60Hz + 120Hz 3. Overall looks and smaller crease
Great video as always! I chose the RAZR+ over the flip as it has a bigger internal display. For a 6.7 inch display id rather get a pixel, but having a 6.9 inch display available when I need it is really nice
the bigger screen it's a major go! It's nice to do most of what I need to on the outside display and open for that big 6.9 inch display. It's a bigger contrast between the two.
Mr Mobile, I too have apps open when I take out of my pocket, think the screen is dull when outside, hate the 5w wireless charging and feel the hinge is clunky! But what a phone and as you say, if Samsung put the effort into the fold, I'd seriously consider changing. The real point for me is that the Razr is actually a modern Blackberry, a business and social phone all in one. Really enjoy your work man, stay mobile my friend 🤘
It's weird because I've had my Razr since launch and it's never done anything in my pocket. I did turn off the wake with movement on day 1 as I found it unbelievably obnoxious.
I have the wake in movement on and also didn't have such problems. Something else must be causing this. Aonly things I have happen in my pocket is accidentally skipping to the next song in Spotify or having the camera open. But I do have the flip twice to activate camera gesture on so that might explain the second thing
I'm from the "when a phone was just a phone" generation, I'll be 70 next year. I currently own the Z-Flip 4, I will be trading it for the Razr+ very soon, I prefer the software of Moto over the Samsung version of Android.
One thing that gives me pause is when he said it's warmer than the F5. I guess that chip is really good. I am still leaning MR minus the screen for a cheaper price.
4:05 you got to remember Good Lock is available in just a couple of countries, it's not world wide, so the vast majority of Flip 5 users will never be able to use all apps on the cover screen
this channel convinced me to get a flip phone and I really thought I was going to go moto. the older z flips never appealed to me and I love moto's ui. but a combination of good trade ins, a very nice samsung exclusive yellow color, and the promise of more updates and better specs all won me over. it's a shame because I'm honestly not a fan of one UI at my first impression (ended up pretty quickly moving to nova launcher) and being part of the google and samsung ecosystem at the same time can feel like having divorced parents. but it was just all the little things that made me more confident I could trust the z flip especially as someone who wants to run with this phone for 3+ years.
Dont be. It is a fantastic phone. The flip screen behavior he mentioned would drive me nuts, given how useful the full functioned front screen is on my Razr.
This review really added value to understanding of two foldables that no other review did. You can get to those without driving foldables for years instead of just weeks / months. Thanks
I got my Flip 5 on August 7th and I love it! I actually wanted the Razr+ but I was able to get a much better deal for the Flip 5 so that's what I got. The only way the Razr+ is better is the external display functionality, and that's marginal. I installed Good Lock so even that isn't a factor anymore. The Flip 5 is better in every other area and will get software updates for five years. The Flip 5 also feels to be more solid after holding both as I did. Battery life seems decent so far. It's not as good as my S23, but I still get through the day without a problem. I couldn't care less about DeX. I've never used it and probably never will. If for some reason I do need to use DeX, I still have my S23 to use for that. BTW, Motorola really hasn't been the Motorola we all know and love since Lenovo bought them and has been calling all the shots. Also, ANY phone at the price point of these two should have water resistance but only the Flip 5 does.
@@fernagiu The point I was making is that pretty much every device costing around $1000 has water resistance as a standard feature so the Razr+ should as well. If it was costing Mid Range prices or less and it doesn't have it, I would understand. However, that's not the case.
@@thullraven1 And what you have to understand also is that this is a foldable phone, not a normal one. Also, water resistance is not a feature of expensive phones. Samsung itself offers water resistance in some of its mid-range phones.
@@fernagiu Wow, OK, my point is a simple fact. Every high dollar phone, regardless of form factor has water resistance in 2023. It's a standard feature in high dollar phones. Yes, some mid rangers have it as well, but it's standard on high dollar phones that are around $1000.
@fernagiu Jokes to you, a TH-camr did a test with the Moto vs the Flip 5 and the moto suffered much worse with the dust test compared to the flip 5. After getting immersed in dust, the motor made an awful creaking sound while the flip 5 was absolutely fine. It survived upto 400000+ folds. The Moto broke at 124000+.
the semiotic analysis of this comparison is so good entertaining and educative at the same time!!! haven't seen this in a while in other youtubers vidss
I'm noticing my Razr+ takes much more force to open than my Razr 5G. I'm even thinking about returning it and sticking with my Razr 5G over this. I was wondering if you could do a video comparing the Razr 5G's opening force to the Z Flip 5 and Razr+? It feels basically impossible to open or close with one hand anymore.
How's your Razr 5G held up ? Honestly I prefer those throwback design compared to these new Razr more convenient design. Never use a flip smartphone before but I'm really considering Razr 5g for secondary phone, always had a soft spot for Motorola through the first gen Moto G Xt1033.
@@GjordDeLad05 It held up amazingly. The screen still seems brand new despite it being three years old. If I were in my youth, with less money like I had back then etc. this is when I'd get a Razr 5G and make the jump to flip phones again.
When it comes to foldables I feel like specs aren't the point. The use case is more important. That's why the Pixel Fold appeals more to me than my previous Z Fold 2. When it comes to these two, the Razr actually seems better because of a better use case outside screen that lets you use the phone like normal instead of putting on a new skin/launcher. Actually that's what I hate with Samsung, their UI design feels crowded at times.
Dude the razer just has a regular phone experience with loads of bugs and 0 optimization on the outside screen while samsung actually built a separate experience for the outside screen to avoid that 😂😂 Example: 9:54
I really enjoy your videos, I have noticed that you love Samsung products. I like small phones, I have right now and apple mini 13 that works well but the screen sometimes is to small for my eyes. Also get sometime super hot and the battery is not lasting as before. Thinking in foldables lately but something that opens horizontally instead of vertically. What is the best phone of this kind?
@@propersod2390 A “separate experience” that is highly limited; that was the entire point of the comparison. Some people prefer one over the other. Power users like Mr. Mobile accept the bugs as the trade-off for being able to do more. Of course, in his case he also has the Fold. Example: 5:24
@bubbledoubletrouble What do you mean tho? Samsung allows you to run ANY APP on the outside screen with good lock, I would say it delivers more in terms of usability
Well Razr+ wins for me! I do like the power user style for the outer screen compared to kids mode Flip 5 does. And the most important deciding factor is the crease. I really cannot stand Samsung Flip "gutter" for how deep it is. Someone said you only feel it during 1st 5 minutes yet I've tried and tried but still can't deny the "slip" feeling my finger felt constantly during scrolling. Its a touch screen of course I'm gonna touch it, so it really bugging me during using Samsung flip phones.
The script mesmerized me with this video. F*ck! Michael, you're a fricking legend. It looks like i watch a film crammed in 12 minutes and STILL. GET. THE. POINTERS.
I recently made the leap from the Pixel 7 Pro to the Razr +. Did it come with sacrifices in the camera...absolutely, but I don't regret it. The Razr is an awesome device. It's not going to sell anywhere near what the Flip 5 does, but it's there pushing Samsung to be better while being a great flip phone all on its own. That's a win for foldable fans. Now we need someone to honestly push Samsung to do something bold with the fold. The Pixel Fold most certainly isnt
I totally agree with you. However many reviewers say the Samsung has a better camara, better, this and better that I will still favour the Motorola. I think it's still the better phone.
Got a release day razr+ and I've really enjoyed it - can relate to the "just a hint of a creak" when the screen is closed, but I really like the closer to stock Android experience than Samsung's customization. Been very pleased so far, coming from a Pixel 3A.
I'm still on the fence. How does it look and feel in your pants pocket? My Moto Edge is just too big. Sometimes I prefer to put it in my jacket pocket.
I've been with Samsung for many years, but I think it's good to get a fresh experience now and again. I'll go with the Razr+ heading into 2024. More pros than cons over the Flip5 for me.
I think I'm going to get the Razr+ as well. Motorola has cut the $ on both models on their website. And with a trade in, up to $200, it knocks the $ down considerably.
@@mpound97 I just pulled the trigger on the Razr plus 5 mins ago. Bought it direct from motorola for 699, rather than tmobile for 999. My current s10+ has a crack so neither would take it for trade in. Samsung offers a trade-in for cracked screens ($200) vs $500. Im pretty pumped. i havent been this torn on a purchase decision for EVER.
Why is nobody talking about the crystal talk technology in the Motorola phone in these reviews which is always been so good it sounds like you're talking to somebody on a landline 👍👏👌👆
Thank you for this review. I was going to upgrade to the RAZR, since Ive had to replace my Z3 5g 3 times, due to the screen cracking or lifting. Ill wait till the glitches are fixed or just go back to S23
I got the Motorola Razr 2024 and it is amazing (switching between s24 ultra and razr 2024) however there are definitely pros and cons of samsung and motorola... the forced use of google apps for things like photos to contacts app is a huge drawback as their apps are software are generally really buggy. The photo editor and lack of a moto gallery app makes the moto razr much worse than it should be. If Motorola had some of the features that samsung phones have it would honestly be a huge win considering I got the Razr 2024 for under 500$ brand new and the flip is over 1k for the same storage i got. It's an amazing phone dont get me wrong but it is definitely frustrating for an every day phone.
For these foldable comparisons, I'd appreciate overheating test as well. One of my most common use case for Flip is to use it for video calls in work and outside. After about an hour of video call (regardless of app, regardless if only on cover screen or inside), Samsung Flip closes all apps, including the video call app. Gets worse if it's charging at the same time. You mention Razr+ runs hotter but does it behave the same once it reaches critical temperature? Or at very least gives you a warning because Samsung does it without warning. Also, a negative for me was that if I want to use outside screen only for a call, once you open it past 90*, it switches to inside screen. Sure, that is intentional but I wish it had option to use outside screen even when unfolded. Thanks for the video, seems like my choice was the right one even though Razr+ is more attractive.
I'm on the Razr plus, and I can answer this one. The upper portion with the cover screen does get hot faster than I'd like, but, unlike what I've seen with a lot of the flips, it reaches a top-out point and idles there, I've never had it suddenly close out stuff, or even get too laggy/slow at max heat. The worst you'll notice is moving from those calls and full temperatures over to scrolling a page or something, I've noticed that it becomes a bit laggy for a few minutes so scrolling feels like it's about to crash. That said apps are rock solid and never actually close out, even at full load and max temps.
I have the razr, it does not heat over a 1 hour of call & during my one month use, i only had it heat a bit 2 times, & the heat wasn't that high, honestly samsung biggest weak point & problem is that it overheats easily, what a shame that after all those years, they still haven't solved this problem, especially with a company with a big name like samsung, it's no wonder they're declining
I ended up with the flip 5 for these exact reasons. While 8 was super excited about the razr+, I couldn't justify spending the same amount of money for a decidedly lesser phone.
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This might be a small thing for some but for those like me who wear polarized sunglasses, the Razr is a huge winner because it doesn't exhibit the weird rainbow effect that makes the Samsung almost unusable. That's a gamechanger for me!
Wow nice
cant really go wrong with this two folding phones. pick whatever suits you the best
@@rayrayrunhe literally gave you a hyperspecific and useful peice of info thst would let you know that that's not necessarily the case
i use S23 Ultra with polarized and there is no rainbow effect, i noticed only rainbow effect on examples (Samsung and Iphone) with screen protectors
Great point here.
This is one of the most helpful videos I've ever watched comparing these phones. The head-to-head comparisons of all the features were really thorough and I appreciate that immensely, especially the comparison of the cover screens. The Razr's cover screen functionality alone is probably enough to sell that one to me over the Flip 5, that sort of Baby Mode of the Flip 5 cover screen already made me feel borderline enraged haha, whereas being able to do virtually anything on the cover that you can inside, including adjusting your pulldown settings, sounds like exactly what I want. (Plus, I despise Samsung's internal ecosystem, and I'll take any excuse to stay far away from it.) Thanks for the great video. Very insightful.
Finally someone mentioned the real difference of usability between those two phones. I went to the motorola froma flip 3 exactly because I wanted more of that front screen and I barely need to open the phone now, which also results in less battery consumed. I compared the new motorola to my flip 3 for a couple of days(regarding the camera) and actually I prefered the results from motorola most of the time, except for sunsets and video. The flip 3 processed the sunsets beatifully, while the motorola's processing was really bad. BUT I kind of found a solution for this, too. Installed some latest gcam port and now it's rocking the photos, too.
It's almost like there is a benefit to producing a review based on genuine use and knowledge of a product as opposed to a spec sheet, four photos, a video, a benchmark, and a few hours of use like MKBHD.
@@Ozzymandius1don't buy a Motorola because it is a Chinese company.
Boycott Chinese products
Most of Motorola's issues with the camera are software related. There are many great 3rd party camera apps that processes the image better than Motorola's camera app. The sensor itself isn't bad, though. It's almost comparable to let's say, an iPhone 12. I feel like the camera quality through Instagram, Snapchat, and Facebook look much better than taking a picture through the stock app. It's such a minor issue though, you would have to be very picky to notice any difference. To the average consumer, the camera will be more than adequate to do the job. Most apps will compress the image quality anyways, so having the better camera on the Z-Flip will still be kind of pointless.
I want the Motorola cover screen capabilities on the Flip. Now that's a perfect flip phone imo.
I bet it comes next year,
The flip 5 can run any app on the cover screen with good lock
@@Junispro31 I’m going to go to the ATT store and see if they will me download goodlock and trying. I’m a huuuuge moto fan. From the OG droid to the first 2 moto x phones. I want to like this. I’ve had an iPhone for the past 3 years. Miss Android and interesting fun phones.
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Sorry it didn't @@TheUsmc0802
Michael is so considerate with this head-to-head; Now I don’t need to watch two seperate videos and then actually need to think for myself. ❤
you should think for your self and not just parrot an influencer's opinion
So, what did you choose?
@@sexyscientist none. I’m too far gone into the apple ecosystem at this point.
Literally it would take 40-60 hours of effort to just get everything over from a data perspective not to mention having to adjust and then there is the fact that it would render most of the functions of my other devices worthless.
It’s a damn shame.
@@Fuuntag sounds like a trap
Damn I like how razor lets you use the cover screen as a phone unlike Samsung now I’m stressed which one should I get lol 😅
Wow man, that disclaimer regarding the duration of experience with the phones and the relationship with the companies was fantastic. I really wish every reviewer did this at the end of the video. Thank you so much for being honest with your viewers. Very through review.
The Razr looks awesome to be honest
After using the Motorola I must say this is definitely my favorite phone by far I never had this much fun with a phone even with my fold.
This is a great review. The phones are so different and similar at the same time. If Samsung include the "continue when close" feature I will love it! But I do love when it's closed it's the separation of using a whole when im trying to stay focused that i need. I wanted the razr for the nostalgic feel. I'll wait to see what the flip 6 is all about.
You hit on points other reviewers fail to mention! Always look forward to your reviews.
Currently a Z Flip 3 owner. I thought I wasn't going to like the 5, cause the only thing that's different is the outer screen, but when I held the model unit, I was sold. It feels so solid. But I have a 5 year phone rule now. So this phone will be with me for a few more years.
Time to break that rule! ;)
Flip 5 is indeed awesome and Michael nailed it in his review.
Samsung's trade in deals are awesome too. Which is something to consider when thinking over breaking that rule!! Ha! :)
Just dont drop that phone like i did my Flip 4, I litteraly only had my flip 4 for only 2weeks and dropped it in the house 1foot from the ground and now my phone only opens up half way. Im pissed 😠. This was my first flip phone since the old days. I dont know if I can trust to buy another even if its the 5
ordered a Flip 5 in the Black Friday sale, think that'll be really good for my use case. if I want to do real photography I'll just use a real camera and the photos are good enough for social media and sharing with friends; and I actually prefer Samsung's cover screen approach, hoping more friction to using apps compared to Moto will help addressing my phone addiction and building a healthier relationship with the thing instead of just continuing doomscrolling after closing the big screen
Excellent video sir. I'm at 6 full days with the Flip 5 and I'm pretty impressed. Camera is meh, but I'm working with it. I absolutely love the smallness factor when it's in my pocket, sitting on a table and in the truck. I don't have to keep smacking it when I change radio stations.
Glad to see you doing a comparison, thanks Michael
I have both and I regret getting the Flip, at least in its current condition.
The app that lets you use most others on the cover screen is region locked and not available everywhere. There are no alternatives.
I got to the point where I have to create a "Routine" just to be able to turn on my hotspot for my Navigation in the car on the cover screen. As you mentioned, even the swipe down mini menu is extremely limited. I think the RAZR wins as it comes ready and able from the box with no extra apps that may or may not be available needed.
Do you know which regions don't have that app?
I just got the Razr, so happy i didn't go for Samsung
I think mostly Europe and UK. Also I heard Africa. @@neruwu
@@pranavparashar5867 doesn't that require rooting?
@@Eclipser7777nope, sideloading doesn't require rooting
I've been an iphone 7/SE user forever! And iphones before that as well. I haven't had to make a real shopping decision for a cell phone in over a decade! And these flip phones are the first thing that have made me consider changing gears in a looong while. So it's stressful to wonder if I'll pick the wrong thing for my preferences.
Thank you for the extremely thorough comparison that helped me answer a lot of questions about how these two phones differentiate themselves from each other.
One benefit of the Razr is the Moto Actions. You can shake to turn on the flashlight and walk around like you're using the impactical flashlights from TNG.
You can set up to double tap the power button on the flip to turn on flashlight
Yeah, I used to have a Moto G, Moto G4+ and the G5+ and I STILL miss that gesture
My pixel 6 has the double tap the back to turn the flashlight on but it's not as good and it turns itself off sometimes inconveniently due to a time limitation
Also the double turn gesture for opening the camera, great stuff and has actually been a reason I've wanted a Motorola phone for years
Still not really practical, i prefer the Moto since that feature came by default, Moto is far better in terms of daily usability@@Sos4R4y
I still keep an old motorola phone nearby just for the flashlight gesture lol
This is the video I've been waiting for, thank you! Helped me decide to just get an S23 Ultra to replace my poor old Note 9. Maybe next year's model will be the flip phone I've been hoping for 😅
For someone that is intrigued by this style of foldable for the purpose of using my phone less (silly, I know), the flip cover screen sounds like a much better choice
Motorola Razr (non-Plus) or Flip 4 would be even better, due to their more limited cover screens.
@@TheMrMobile and non-plus's better battery life
I agree! I got the fold 3 for that reason and it helped a little. I think this would really help. For me, the full use front screen is useful enough to do most things, but still be mildly annoying enough to keep me from scrolling endlessly. All while still having "regular" phone when actually needed.
@@TheMrMobileI think for that reason the Flip 5 is even better, as you are able to do more "non entertainment" things on the front screen and thereby use the full phone less.
Razr+ is better since you can run any app in external screen, and the battery i had no problem with it, i'm able to use it for a day & half, even after some heavy use, it's so much better than Flip 5 which really struggles when used for long (it tends to overheats easily, and this is something i'm still shocked to this day, samsung haven't fixed this for years, what a shame for a big company name like Samsung) @@thisismyhandleyouknow
Best comparrison video ive seeing.
I have both. I'd easily go with the Moto. They only 2 slight advantages of the flip is the newer processor and the build quality. It does feel more sturdy. The screen crease is also much more noticeable on the flip. It's not a good look.
I'm digging my Razr +. Ousts the original as my favorite phone.
Almost was going to replace my S23 for flip 5 , but suddenly I realise that I love my S23 much more than what I have thought. Usability is more important factor than style anyday. Razor + or 40 ultra what may be is more attractive than flip 5 no doubt. Let's see what OnePlus open brings to the table. I think I should wait a couple of years before this foldables get refinement and becomes capable to replace completely the slab phones S23 and S23 ultra currently I am in.
I actually did that! Had the flip 5 for about 48 hours and decided to keep my s23 and return the flip 5! I hated the form factor of the flip 5, and my s23 was a much better device overall!
I think flip phones are fine for people that don't use their phones much, or if you plan to use it as a secondary phone.
Big agree. I've been rocking the Z Fold 3 for over a year now, and while I love it, if functionality is important, stick with your slab for now. Apps still aren't super well optimized for folding phones yet, though they are getting there. Also, unless you're a power user and/or working in a corporate environment, there really aren't a ton of use cases that justify the cost of the Fold. I use the big screen to watch TH-cam and show off pictures, occasionally for Google Sheets or Docs. If you're an average user, you're mostly paying for the novelty. Granted, if you're like me, the novelty is worth the cost lol.
@@bansheebacklash3730the galaxy folds imo are a joke of themselves and we will see that when the pixel fold makes samsung rethink things. We will either see a form change of the z fold line up or we will see a replacement line up soon because pixel did what samsung refused to do with the fold line.... Make the outer screen useable
@@Sos4R4y You've obviously never used a Fold in your life. It's amusing how the Internet brings out clowns who give opinions on something they know absolutely nothing about.
By the way, the Pixel Fold has lousy app optimization when unfolded, with thick black screens surrounding the apps, unlike the Fold 5.
Also it can break much more easily. Meanwhile, the Fold has always passed the Jerry Rig tests.
Because I was unable to get the original razr some decades ago this Razr will be my first moto clamshell. I was waiting for moto to give us a screen that covered the whole front and allowed more productivity. But honestly the biggest selling point for me is having that logo on my clamshell finally. My daily driver will remain to be my slab Google pixel 7 pro with the Razr coming out when I want to flex something nobody else has.
I wanted to try the flip factor again as an old flip head, bought the Razr 5G and now Razr+ in blue, beautiful phone and outer display functions are outstanding, only wish the U.S. release had included the same features as th Chinese version which has a open and closing sound tone, Tent Mode / Always on Display and supposedly rotating outer display, also that they also included a charger and matching protective outer case covers, I just ordered a Samsung Flip 5 also in blue, I know I will also like, but the Motorola Razr + to me has a more wow factor in design and outer display, I am not a heavy power user and my older Motorola 5G still works flawless and to my eyes still the sexiest feel and design appearance, Motorola brought me back to appreciate flip phones again.
Does it get warm as he said? I hate phones that get hot while I watch TH-cam.
It gets warm if you spend significant time streaming, live video calls, maps, games or other apps that drain a battery rapidly but so did my iPhone 11 Pro Max and current 13 Mini, this is not an issue for me, these are not big batteries, I will see how the Flip 5 is on heavy battery drain usage when it gets delivered but I will expect and accept the same result.
Aod on the small screen is my only complain for this phone, why'd they lock that away to China 😢 what does the tent mode do? At least we got the extra hardware here in Europe
That sneaky LGR at the end.... Noice 😏
Like many have said, please keep up the excellent work Michael! I love your depth, your focus on details that matter (and those that don't but are still small quality of life things), and the excellent script writing and production. Forever my number 1 trusted source on reviews 😁
I've Had my Razr+ for about a week now and I'm loving it! Seen both reviews and comparison between the 2 phones before ultimately making my decision. The Razr+ won me over!
I got my razr+ about a week ago now too and I'm so happy with it. Another perk is very minimal bloat compared to Samsung that's full of it. . . Which was the main reason I returned my zflip.
Nice. This is what I wanted when flips came back. But I think I will wait for the Flip 6, which I know they have all ready by now, where all the kinks have been ironed out, and will be announced in 5-6 months time.
Hey Michael!
Thank you so much for your time, energy, and money poured into this video for our entertaining purposes, i truly appreciate it.
You always output quality content, i have seen lots of reviews on the Z Flip 5 and Motorola Razr, but yours is the one that is unique.
- Thank you again for your unique review!
Great as always! I was debating both, but what edged me to the flip 5 was the trade in incentive, ultimately, it cost under 400 with the trade in of my S23 and the upgrade to 512 gb, sold it for me, if moto really wanted this phone in people's hands, they would have given you more than 200 for the S23, where samsung gave me 600, huge difference
No kidding. The trade-in values are insane. With my S22 as trade bait, I was able to get the Flip5 superior matte color with 512 gb AND the watch 6 classic, both for about $500!
Att had me on the razr cuz it's 10 a month vs 30 for the flip
I traded in a regular S9 and got $600 credit lol
With the Fold 5 (and probably Flip 5 too) I feel Samsung foldables finally left the prototype phase. You can put it next to any S series phones and you won't really see the difference, no apparent HW limitations. The Fold 2 before worked for 2.5 years, and it's new owner is happy with it. But I feel lucky there and I was always a bit nervous that it can break. With the Fold 5, it feels like a regular phone that works through it's whole 4-5 years SW support.
Even if there are strange HW omissions (like fast charging), Samsung is still the benchmark when it comes to foldables.
Sounds like if you put these two together we would have a really good effort. Maybe next year they'll improve enough to be worth the money.
To be fair, at this point they're the same price as a lot of flagship devices, the Razr and Flip are only 200 more than the galaxy s23, So it's honestly to a point where it isn't really a matter of price, especially if you're going through a service provider like at&t or Verizon.
@@carelesslygenericbut are the flip phones as durable as regular phones? That should also be considered in the price
What about the long-term reviews? The early Samsung screens cracking was pretty damning, though after a couple years of heavy use my Razr 5G is also starting to develop a nick in the inner screen that I worry will become a crack. If that happens, which company can offer the better durability in their modern iterations?
There’s things about both phones I like but I chose the Flip 5 because I wanted the newer processor. The Moto’s higher refresh rate was very tempting tho
i choosed the Moto because for me even though its not the newest, its faster than the Flip 4 and when the screen is on you literally cant see the hinge
@@karmaxarioxpower95 The crease doesn't bother me on my Flip 5 personally but I've heard it's less pronounced on the Moto
6:05 What’s wrong with Samsung keyboard? I use a Samsung phone and I never thought of replacing it.
Fantastic review! I really didn't think there were that many differences between these two devices but you've really shown there's a huge gap still!
Great video! Thank you Mr Mobile for the great quality
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unbiased review and amazingly explained all features 👍👍 Great review Michael
3:44 I like that you can literally see the difference in hinge quality as your sister(in-law) stuttered trying to open up the motorola as if she hit an invisible bump during the process.
I've had all the flip phones, from the Z Flip 5G to the 3 and the 4, and then the Razr 5G and now the Razr+, and I skipped getting the Flip 5 for now. I think the Razr is just as nice as the Samsung, even if the software isn't as useful, but I love the coverscreen, and I've never had an issue with it calling someone or anything in my pocket, and my dad has the same Razr+ I do and neither has he 🤷 but definitely a close fight!
Nice .
Love your videos and thanks for this comparison ❤✌️👍
I love Motorola's innovation and Experimentation in the mobile space since the Moto Mod and Moto X. Why can't we restore some of that energy and have more long term software support for the midrange. Been sad since they left Google
moto x was great. there's features that have filtered down to this day, that nobody realises was down to Motorola.
google was only after the patents, that's why you see touchless controls now in modern phones.
Agreed. I still use my Moto Z4 on occasion. I love the mods, makes it so much more than a phone.
@@kentyler3962 same here, moto z4 didn't come to the UK, but I still have a z3. Tbh I've got z1 and z2 too.
It'd be cool to see Moto innovate in the folding space more, Or even go fully crazy and try something akin to the LG wing for one of their flagship models one year. It's crazy that already a brand new, high tech sector of design is already feeling tired and same'y. Moto Mods were cool and while they ultimately didn't make the mark they wanted to, They did inspire innovation all round, especially with things like dual screen devices, battery standouts like the Note and Galaxy Ultra series, and even Motorola's own Stylo series. It feels weird then that when given another opportunity to go big, with at the least successful sales as one of the three biggest names in mobile, they'd play it so safe when they finally have another opportunity to be a proper stand out with some staying power.
It just feels like we're in an age where while everyone is doing the exact same things, Moto, the reinventor of the flip phone, could make something as big and popular as the Razr was back when it released first.
Excellent video as always. I'm starting to see flips and folds as a true consumer product now. Partly because of your videos and you essentially documenting the evolution of form factor. 👍
Yes the Razr+ can't beat nor threaten the Z Flip5 by simply existing, but looking back few generations of Razr they have definitely improved a lot, especially in their hardware! Imagine if Motorola doesn't exist, Samsung wouldn't even bother to increase their cover display size!
The last part of your comment is what leads me to believe Samsung is a company that lacks creativity. They are probably the first to push out high tech but they are not good at packaging it. This is why their phone designs have always evolved around what Apple does and now with foldables they evolve around Motorola and soon with Google. The good thing is other companies are not following Samsung and are actually being creative and finding ways that they can improve without copying. While Samsung started the whole foldable thing they are not the ones who will make it evolve into a form that will be accepted and replace normal phones.
@@Marco-em2inmicro changes happen so that they have something else to improve for their next phone. They are already making a phone right after the new one has been released. With that said. The criticism they listen to are the people from 2 generations ago (z flip 5 is an improvement of z flip 3 while the z flip 4 is from z flip 2 hence why the people were confused when z flip 4 didn't have a better cover screen even when they have been requesting it a year ago and it only came to z flip 5). This formula rarely changes. With that said even without competition they will do the same in my opinion, because z flip series has been one of the flip phones that still is trying to hit mainstream market even when no other companies had to balls to even bother.
Just look on their perspective. If you made the best phone you can ever make, then how do you one up the next year? You can't so become a disappointment. S22Ultra and S23Ultra is the best example.
Im glad Motorola is still making their RAZR and Google finally joined the US folding market. Samsung really needs to be pushed to innovate more. They have gotten very lazy over the past few years, even MKBHD said this
@@Marco-em2inNo Samsung didn't started the foldable thing. Royale was on the verge of invention but they heard that somehow Samsung was following the tail. So they hurriedly developed flexpai, but Samsung's was a better product though you can argue about the display,yet that the reason they're are given so much fame for that.
@@GauravMishra9200you are wrong. Samsung start teasing Fold before Flex Royale came out. Their RnD start since 2011. Royale just want to become the first company to sell its fold and not really want to sell it exectly.
Used this video to help make the switch from an iPhone 13 Pro Max to the Razr+.
Saw the Razr at Best buy and fell in love with it. Thanks to all the videos you've made in the Razr, I felt pretty comfortable in my choice. Thanks and keep it up!
Even I have a 13 pro max I am planning to get razr + just cause of that mini screen. But can it keep it up with the games and all ?
How are you liking the Razr+ ?
Really love the Z Flip, I've had my Z Flip 4 for about a year now, and the Z Flip 5 looks like a warranted upgrade from it. However, until they put a better camera on it I think I'm gonna go S23 ultra next. They put a better camera on Z Flip phone though, and I might be a life-time subscriber to the Z Flip line.
This was a great phone battle Mr. Mobile. If not for the sweet deal I got for the Pixel Fold, this would've been a tough call to see which flip phone I would get as an upgrade to my Z Flip 3. Based on the camera, that might have kept me in the Samsung ecosystem because I love to take photos and videos and Samsung had a good camera for a flip phone. But my Pixel Fold would crush those two flip phones in that department and I could not be happier about the decision I made going to the Pixel Fold. I would love to see you do a similar battle between the Pixel Fold and the Z Fold 5.
Erm..still firmly an Apple 🍏 girl here. But always interesting to see what’s currently happening out there in Androidsville. Thank you for posting vid - just love the Techo ones. ~ from Oxford, UK 🇬🇧
Great review Mike, i always enjoy your videos. I'm surprised you didnt talk much about the Samsung UI, that's the main reason I'm going with the Flip 5.
Mr.Fisher. I'm big fan of you. Make more videos like this man.. nowadays missing your videos on regular basis
This is one of the best eddited and monologed tech vid ive seen, let alone a great compression! Great Job! subbed.
You hadn't subbed already?
I went for my first foldable to be Razr + because 1. Nostalgia towards my V3 back in a day 2. 144Hz outside screen + 165Hz inside screen VS Samsungs 60Hz + 120Hz 3. Overall looks and smaller crease
Great video as always! I chose the RAZR+ over the flip as it has a bigger internal display. For a 6.7 inch display id rather get a pixel, but having a 6.9 inch display available when I need it is really nice
the bigger screen it's a major go! It's nice to do most of what I need to on the outside display and open for that big 6.9 inch display. It's a bigger contrast between the two.
razr hinge is too weak
not a fan of motorola’s software .it’s not as polished as Samsung’s . and the hinge feels more fragile . returned mine and i went for flip5 .
Lmao ye I'm sure you can tell the difference between 6.7 and 6.9 😂 there isn't even 1 good reason to get the razr over a flip
@@noah-j00the hinge won't bother you after you get used to it. Sending it back for the hinge was a silly reason.
The video I’ve been waiting for!
Mr Mobile, I too have apps open when I take out of my pocket, think the screen is dull when outside, hate the 5w wireless charging and feel the hinge is clunky! But what a phone and as you say, if Samsung put the effort into the fold, I'd seriously consider changing. The real point for me is that the Razr is actually a modern Blackberry, a business and social phone all in one. Really enjoy your work man, stay mobile my friend 🤘
It's weird because I've had my Razr since launch and it's never done anything in my pocket. I did turn off the wake with movement on day 1 as I found it unbelievably obnoxious.
I have the wake in movement on and also didn't have such problems. Something else must be causing this. Aonly things I have happen in my pocket is accidentally skipping to the next song in Spotify or having the camera open. But I do have the flip twice to activate camera gesture on so that might explain the second thing
I'm from the "when a phone was just a phone" generation, I'll be 70 next year. I currently own the Z-Flip 4, I will be trading it for the Razr+ very soon, I prefer the software of Moto over the Samsung version of Android.
Good luck getting any trade in deals from Motorola.......
@@carlbrenda6518 I'll probably just sell it and buy the Razr+...
One thing that gives me pause is when he said it's warmer than the F5. I guess that chip is really good. I am still leaning MR minus the screen for a cheaper price.
What about bloatware on the two phones? I left Samsung years ago for OnePlus because of the bloatware, but want to switch to a flip
4:05 you got to remember Good Lock is available in just a couple of countries, it's not world wide, so the vast majority of Flip 5 users will never be able to use all apps on the cover screen
this channel convinced me to get a flip phone and I really thought I was going to go moto. the older z flips never appealed to me and I love moto's ui. but a combination of good trade ins, a very nice samsung exclusive yellow color, and the promise of more updates and better specs all won me over. it's a shame because I'm honestly not a fan of one UI at my first impression (ended up pretty quickly moving to nova launcher) and being part of the google and samsung ecosystem at the same time can feel like having divorced parents. but it was just all the little things that made me more confident I could trust the z flip especially as someone who wants to run with this phone for 3+ years.
How's everything with the phone now?? I'm thinking of getting it tmrw
Will you still be doing a full review on the flip 5?
You convinced me to get razr+ with your review, and I got it. Now, you just made me restless about whether or not I made the right decision.
Dont be. It is a fantastic phone. The flip screen behavior he mentioned would drive me nuts, given how useful the full functioned front screen is on my Razr.
I agree. to me, the front screen of razr+ is superior, and I love it. durability issue (the hinch particularly) is my concern.
This review really added value to understanding of two foldables that no other review did. You can get to those without driving foldables for years instead of just weeks / months. Thanks
Got the razor plus and I love it.
Same!
Is it hot when watching TH-cam?
I got my Flip 5 on August 7th and I love it! I actually wanted the Razr+ but I was able to get a much better deal for the Flip 5 so that's what I got. The only way the Razr+ is better is the external display functionality, and that's marginal. I installed Good Lock so even that isn't a factor anymore. The Flip 5 is better in every other area and will get software updates for five years. The Flip 5 also feels to be more solid after holding both as I did. Battery life seems decent so far. It's not as good as my S23, but I still get through the day without a problem. I couldn't care less about DeX. I've never used it and probably never will. If for some reason I do need to use DeX, I still have my S23 to use for that. BTW, Motorola really hasn't been the Motorola we all know and love since Lenovo bought them and has been calling all the shots. Also, ANY phone at the price point of these two should have water resistance but only the Flip 5 does.
Water resistance is not that important in this format of phones, worry more about dust.
@@fernagiu The point I was making is that pretty much every device costing around $1000 has water resistance as a standard feature so the Razr+ should as well. If it was costing Mid Range prices or less and it doesn't have it, I would understand. However, that's not the case.
@@thullraven1 And what you have to understand also is that this is a foldable phone, not a normal one. Also, water resistance is not a feature of expensive phones. Samsung itself offers water resistance in some of its mid-range phones.
@@fernagiu Wow, OK, my point is a simple fact. Every high dollar phone, regardless of form factor has water resistance in 2023. It's a standard feature in high dollar phones. Yes, some mid rangers have it as well, but it's standard on high dollar phones that are around $1000.
@fernagiu Jokes to you, a TH-camr did a test with the Moto vs the Flip 5 and the moto suffered much worse with the dust test compared to the flip 5. After getting immersed in dust, the motor made an awful creaking sound while the flip 5 was absolutely fine. It survived upto 400000+ folds. The Moto broke at 124000+.
Love your creativity and all the little touches spread throughout your review. great job!
Please do more vs videos, love this one great job 😊👍
the semiotic analysis of this comparison is so good entertaining and educative at the same time!!! haven't seen this in a while in other youtubers vidss
Here wondering if you're using the term semiotic correctly.
I'm noticing my Razr+ takes much more force to open than my Razr 5G. I'm even thinking about returning it and sticking with my Razr 5G over this.
I was wondering if you could do a video comparing the Razr 5G's opening force to the Z Flip 5 and Razr+? It feels basically impossible to open or close with one hand anymore.
How's your Razr 5G held up ? Honestly I prefer those throwback design compared to these new Razr more convenient design.
Never use a flip smartphone before but I'm really considering Razr 5g for secondary phone, always had a soft spot for Motorola through the first gen Moto G Xt1033.
@@GjordDeLad05 It held up amazingly. The screen still seems brand new despite it being three years old. If I were in my youth, with less money like I had back then etc. this is when I'd get a Razr 5G and make the jump to flip phones again.
Great review (as always) but what about the regular Razor without plus?
what about battery
The battery is actually okay with both, the razr isn't quite as power heavy, so it lasts just a bit longer
9:26 what is the name of the wireless charger? Looks amazing, thanks.
When it comes to foldables I feel like specs aren't the point. The use case is more important. That's why the Pixel Fold appeals more to me than my previous Z Fold 2. When it comes to these two, the Razr actually seems better because of a better use case outside screen that lets you use the phone like normal instead of putting on a new skin/launcher. Actually that's what I hate with Samsung, their UI design feels crowded at times.
Dude the razer just has a regular phone experience with loads of bugs and 0 optimization on the outside screen while samsung actually built a separate experience for the outside screen to avoid that 😂😂
Example: 9:54
I really enjoy your videos, I have noticed that you love Samsung products. I like small phones, I have right now and apple mini 13 that works well but the screen sometimes is to small for my eyes. Also get sometime super hot and the battery is not lasting as before.
Thinking in foldables lately but something that opens horizontally instead of vertically. What is the best phone of this kind?
@@propersod2390 A “separate experience” that is highly limited; that was the entire point of the comparison. Some people prefer one over the other. Power users like Mr. Mobile accept the bugs as the trade-off for being able to do more. Of course, in his case he also has the Fold.
Example: 5:24
I have the razr and not experienced any bugs. also in 2 months, I have had 3 security updates which is great.
@bubbledoubletrouble What do you mean tho? Samsung allows you to run ANY APP on the outside screen with good lock, I would say it delivers more in terms of usability
Hi,
Great video once again but can I suggest you do a review on the Huawei P60 pro as I still not seen you with this phone yet.
Well Razr+ wins for me! I do like the power user style for the outer screen compared to kids mode Flip 5 does. And the most important deciding factor is the crease. I really cannot stand Samsung Flip "gutter" for how deep it is. Someone said you only feel it during 1st 5 minutes yet I've tried and tried but still can't deny the "slip" feeling my finger felt constantly during scrolling. Its a touch screen of course I'm gonna touch it, so it really bugging me during using Samsung flip phones.
Hi Mister Mobile, what about the inner screen durability during long period of use?
Now I can enjoy the rest of my night with Mr mobile video!!!! Been waiting for this one!!!
Is mat glass cheaper then frosted glass ? If not I feel like a matte finish should be pretty much standard
The script mesmerized me with this video. F*ck! Michael, you're a fricking legend. It looks like i watch a film crammed in 12 minutes and STILL. GET. THE. POINTERS.
I wish you can tell us more about overheating or charging times in both, 👍🏻😅
I recently made the leap from the Pixel 7 Pro to the Razr +. Did it come with sacrifices in the camera...absolutely, but I don't regret it. The Razr is an awesome device. It's not going to sell anywhere near what the Flip 5 does, but it's there pushing Samsung to be better while being a great flip phone all on its own. That's a win for foldable fans. Now we need someone to honestly push Samsung to do something bold with the fold. The Pixel Fold most certainly isnt
I totally agree with you. However many reviewers say the Samsung has a better camara, better, this and better that I will still favour the Motorola. I think it's still the better phone.
Got a release day razr+ and I've really enjoyed it - can relate to the "just a hint of a creak" when the screen is closed, but I really like the closer to stock Android experience than Samsung's customization. Been very pleased so far, coming from a Pixel 3A.
I'm still on the fence. How does it look and feel in your pants pocket? My Moto Edge is just too big. Sometimes I prefer to put it in my jacket pocket.
Is the new screen better now? I just got the flip 5. I’m having so much fun with it. Cheers.
I've been with Samsung for many years, but I think it's good to get a fresh experience now and again. I'll go with the Razr+ heading into 2024. More pros than cons over the Flip5 for me.
Another excellent video. Truly one of the best out there.
How do you change the orange dort for notifications 😮
You can't interact with the toggles on Samsung outer display??
Exceptional review, as always, Michael.
very curious about one thing not related to this topic, what is that laptop? two screen as one? one on top of another one?
A well written review and well spoken narration 🤙🏽
Shopping for mine right now. Man, what roller coaster ride. I started pro-razr, switched to Samsung, them back to razr. Ooof. Great video
I think I'm going to get the Razr+ as well. Motorola has cut the $ on both models on their website. And with a trade in, up to $200, it knocks the $ down considerably.
@@mpound97 I just pulled the trigger on the Razr plus 5 mins ago. Bought it direct from motorola for 699, rather than tmobile for 999. My current s10+ has a crack so neither would take it for trade in. Samsung offers a trade-in for cracked screens ($200) vs $500. Im pretty pumped. i havent been this torn on a purchase decision for EVER.
The best flip phones comparison by a long margin! Keep it up!
Always a great review from Michael Fisher, one of the best.
Why is nobody talking about the crystal talk technology in the Motorola phone in these reviews which is always been so good it sounds like you're talking to somebody on a landline 👍👏👌👆
Did you all have to use the "extra short" gboard height in order for the text input window to display when device is closed?
Yet another excellent video! 👏👏👏
Super great video, `The video content and voice over was really brilliant.. 1 extra subscriber today
Thank you for this review. I was going to upgrade to the RAZR, since Ive had to replace my Z3 5g 3 times, due to the screen cracking or lifting. Ill wait till the glitches are fixed or just go back to S23
I got the Motorola Razr 2024 and it is amazing (switching between s24 ultra and razr 2024) however there are definitely pros and cons of samsung and motorola... the forced use of google apps for things like photos to contacts app is a huge drawback as their apps are software are generally really buggy. The photo editor and lack of a moto gallery app makes the moto razr much worse than it should be. If Motorola had some of the features that samsung phones have it would honestly be a huge win considering I got the Razr 2024 for under 500$ brand new and the flip is over 1k for the same storage i got. It's an amazing phone dont get me wrong but it is definitely frustrating for an every day phone.
For these foldable comparisons, I'd appreciate overheating test as well. One of my most common use case for Flip is to use it for video calls in work and outside. After about an hour of video call (regardless of app, regardless if only on cover screen or inside), Samsung Flip closes all apps, including the video call app. Gets worse if it's charging at the same time.
You mention Razr+ runs hotter but does it behave the same once it reaches critical temperature? Or at very least gives you a warning because Samsung does it without warning.
Also, a negative for me was that if I want to use outside screen only for a call, once you open it past 90*, it switches to inside screen. Sure, that is intentional but I wish it had option to use outside screen even when unfolded.
Thanks for the video, seems like my choice was the right one even though Razr+ is more attractive.
I'm on the Razr plus, and I can answer this one.
The upper portion with the cover screen does get hot faster than I'd like, but, unlike what I've seen with a lot of the flips, it reaches a top-out point and idles there, I've never had it suddenly close out stuff, or even get too laggy/slow at max heat.
The worst you'll notice is moving from those calls and full temperatures over to scrolling a page or something, I've noticed that it becomes a bit laggy for a few minutes so scrolling feels like it's about to crash. That said apps are rock solid and never actually close out, even at full load and max temps.
I have the razr, it does not heat over a 1 hour of call & during my one month use, i only had it heat a bit 2 times, & the heat wasn't that high, honestly samsung biggest weak point & problem is that it overheats easily, what a shame that after all those years, they still haven't solved this problem, especially with a company with a big name like samsung, it's no wonder they're declining
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Oh, my razr never heats that bad during calls, had a 2 hour call and everything was fine for me
I ended up with the flip 5 for these exact reasons. While 8 was super excited about the razr+, I couldn't justify spending the same amount of money for a decidedly lesser phone.