@MrMobile, I'm so glad I watched this BEFORE preordering the Fold 5! You just saved me making a HUGE mistake. After 9 months of owning a Fold 4, Samsung was unable to repair it (after 3 times I asked for my money back), and after 3 weeks, low and behold they sent me $1,799.99. I'm shocked they did, but also very happy to be done with them. Let's hope the next foldable contender gives us something we deserve. Sending this from a Moto Razr Plus 2023.
@@22b_gc8 The 2 issues I had were: the inner screen protector was peeling off, and the outer screen was scratched to hell. Keep in mind that I bought Samsung care from day 1. I called Care (assuming I'd have to pay a deductible due to scratching the front screen), but they told me that due to the inner screen issue, they'd repair the whole thing for free. Shipped it to them the first time. They sent it back the same day they received it "repaired". Nope. They replaced the screen protector, but damaged the inner screen by either dropping a screwdriver on it, or something with a tip as there was a dimple on it that wasn't there before me sending it in. They also replaced the entire phone housing, and camera lenses, but did not fix the outer screen. The 2nd time I shipped it, they again sent it back the same day they received it, but this time they only replaced some internal antenna. They did not fix either the outer or inner screens. The 3rd time I called several times to ask if it would actually get fixed this time, or if they could just send me a new phone. A week after they received it, they told me it was now out of warranty due to the scratches on the screen. I tweeted out to Samsung Mobile USA, and LTT, and a day later, called in, spoke to a manager, and all of a sudden I was offered a full refund. It was promised within 3-5 business days, but actually took 3 weeks, but they did indeed send me my money via Citi Bank. I can't wait for Samsung to have a proper competitor here in the States. Google lame 1st attempt is a joke, though at least it's an attempt. Maybe by the 3rd or 4th iteration, it might be worth buying. But until then, I'll stay on my Moto or iPhone, or maybe even a Note 13, eh hmh. I mean S23 Ultra. Samsung knows how to make phones, but not folding ones that hold up... Yet.
@@byersbw I can see how that must have been super frustrating and Samsung customer service leaves a lot to be desired, but it sounds like the only issue that the phone had originally was that the screen protector was peeling? Everything after that happened due to Samsung repair center screwing up. So it doesn't seem fair to say that "Samsung knows how to make phones, but not folding ones that hold up" based on that. For what it's worth, I've had my Fold 3 for almost 2 years and I also only had an issue with the inner screen protector peeling off. Fortunately, I have a Samsung repair center in my city where I can just bring in the phone and have the inner screen protector replaced within 1 hour. So it's not major issue for me to have it replaced 1-2 times a year. Besides that, the phone is working perfectly with no issues.
Love the foldable coverage! I've gotta agree about Samsung foldables having an issue with their screen protectors. I've owned the Flip 1, 3, and 4, and every single one has had cracks form in their protectors in less than a year. Currently on the Pixel Fold and hoping its screen holds up better.
@@diablo4624 I'm aware, but there's no Samsung repair centers near me so I'd have to ship it and be phone-less for a while. It's not great when that's the assumed experience of using a foldable (that potentially multiple times a year you will have to get it repaired).
@@diablo4624 Based off what he says about the 5's hinges, I'm hoping that puts less pressure on the installed protectors. But for the earlier models, Samsung really should've owned it and included an extra internal screen protector with every device. You're right you can buy 3rd party, but IMO you shouldn't have to buy anything extra.
My Fold 2 shared near all the failure points you described, lifting screen protector, lost bumpers etc. Despite that, it has been my longest winded device. I imagine all the changes between the 2 and 5 would feel significant, but as a whole I don't think the full has evolved much beyond the 2.
I went from the Fold 2 to the Fold 4 and I love the wider front screen. Even if it's still minimal and Iike that the hinge wasn't as long. So less bulky. Besides that, the changes don't seem that crazy after almost a year with the Fold 4. If I were you, I'd keep rocking that Fold 2. I miss treated mine a lot but still survived. Only issue I had was peeling screen protector 😊
Will be upgrading from the Fold 4, but I'm disappointed by the lack of camera improvement with the 5. I agree that when you are paying so much for these devices, Samsung should really make them cutting edge in every way.
@timothyxxxpaul When I posted that I was assuming through the Samsung Upgrade programme. Since then however I've received a message to say that is ending, so now I'm not so sure. They are giving a big discount but will think a bit more about it. I would like them to go all out on the camera, but it doesn't mean it won't be better or that incremental changes in other ways won't be welcome.
thanks for talking about the fail rates for the fold devices. my fold 3 started showing cracks along the crease almost 2 years into ownership...i bought it preordered at launch. the screen protector started to peel so i removed it, a couple of weeks later i noticed three 1cm cracks along the crease. i was fuming! i fought samsung tooth and nail and managed to get them to offer a 'courtesy one-time repair' of my screen. i just got it back a few days ago and it's basically a new screen,hinge and frame. moral of the story folks if you take care of your fold and have no physical damage other than the manufacture defect that is the fold 3 screen, don't take no as an answer if you're out of warranty!
Samsung really needed to step up this year, and it looks like they've fallen short of that. Hopefully the 1+ foldables are good enough to kick them back into gear next year.
Their 2024 foldables will probably already be in the final stages of design, so I doubt any new phones released now will have any impact except on price
If the consistency and similarities meant Samsung could price them cheaper than Motorola, then it would be fantastic. But right now, if had to dump my Surface Duo I would get a Motorola instead.
@@nathanvrvrt Copy? In that case, every company copied Samsung for making a foldable.. I don't get you guys. Y'all complain when they don't make any significant design changes and when they do, you call em out for "copying". >_>
@@DiceRoboTrade in deals make the flip far cheaper than motorola. Bestbuy gave me a free flip 4 and $100 when I traded in my s21 ultra in november. Now I'm trading my flip 4 for the flip 5 and only paying $99.06. No other company is offering anything remotely as good as samsung price wise.
Excellent preview sir! I'll be sitting out this year. Like you mentioned... not enough enhancements on the Z Fold5. Will say that I've been happy with the Z Fold4 performance and durability over the last year. No concerns of it lasting another year. Thanks again.
The protector on my Flip 4 started coming off after just a few months. In theory I could have gotten a free new Samsung one, if only they were in stock and somewhere within 50 miles of me (near Baltimore) was authorized to put them on. I got such a run-around from the two authorized repair centers that I gave up and put a third party one on myself, and ironically it's lasted better than the original. That aside, lack of dust protection on the new ones makes them a no-go for me. Something has gotten into my 4's hinge and now it won't lay flat at all, it opens to maybe 170 degrees, which is really annoying. So probably back to slab phones for me for my next one, sadly, as I do like the flip form factor.
FYI for anyone with screen protector issues I recommend the Whitestone which i picked up for 16 quid on amazon. Comes with a little jig thing for perfect alignment. Much better oleophobic coating and feels far less likely to peel. I swapped mine a couple of months ago and its a very worthwhile upgrade even if you don't have peeling.
@chelseawhite7551 pretty sure for the fold 4 removing the screen protector no longer voids the warranty so if anything ever happened just remove it before you send in if that was the case. It's a bit of PET plastic film the exact same as the one samsung uses so no chance it could cause any damage.
Got here to see the previews of these devices.... listened to "kill two elephants with one room" over and over. Mr. Mobile, your wordsmithing is top-notch and cracks me up!!!
Those colors!!! The flip has always been a compelling phone for me and Ive been waiting for the design to improve so I can get one. The Flip 5 hits almost all of what I'd want, so I'm excited for the full reviews
I replaced my screen protector on my zfold4 for the first time last week. Luckily I just happen to live nearby a galaxy store so it was as simple as going there (no appointment needed) and getting it replaced. But it's still something that feels it shouldn't be necessary. Definitely not an upgrade year for me, but hope for some exciting movement by next year!
@@JRBowling1997the inner screen has a pre installed screen protector. This tends to start peeling up at the hinge. My fold 4 is starting to do this as well.
Same here on the fold 3. I had my inner screen protector replaced twice already but it's just a matter of going to the local Samsung store to have it replaced within an hour. So not a major issue for me. But I can see how it would be a major PITA if you don't have any Samsung repair centers near you and you need to ship the phone to Samsung every time you need this done.
@@JRBowling1997 yep and I have no places anywhere near me that will replace it. So I either have to live with it or mail it in to Samsung. I highly doubt they will compensate me for being without a phone for a week or two. Not sure how long it would take.
Samsung's flip cover screen is sleek, very sleek, but I prefer the quirky razr screen It really seems as if the SoC is the only selling point of this gen for Samsung
I've been looking forward to this particular initial review for a while.. it was your review of the Galaxy Fold 3 that prompted me to give foldables a try. And, for the most part, the benefits of using a foldable, along with the screen issues, were borne out. I DID end up replacing the inner screen. For free (always get Samsung's extra coverage). Since I am not a frequent picture-taker, the deficiencies of the camera impacted me less. Given that l don't use the unit for business as you do, I expect to be better served by a flip phone. So I am l looking forward to a full review of the Flip 5. Your reviews are a bit more accessible. Your friend from the Unlockr is knowledgeable, and gives excellent detail in his reviews (I subscribe to him as well). But yours can be more understandable to the common schmuck! Fortunately, I work in the telecommunications industry. Looking forward to your next review.
10:14 I can attest to this. I love my Z Flip 4, but I already got my screen protector placed once, and I noticed that it's peeling at the crease AGAIN! And frankly, I don't like having to pay $40 a piece for a piece of plastic that's supposed to stay on your phone at all times.
I want one. For me, it's the thickness basically being halved by both thinner pieces of phone, but also the hinge closing completely shut. I think it finally looks banging!
I love the fold 5 look and style, sure its not the biggest change.. But I've been wanting an foldable, so this is definitely something I'm interested in
I have flip4 since december and i've peeled the screen protector months ago and honestly feel like should've done it sooner. No issues and the screen is so much better off now. I'm generally an extra-accurate person, but still believe absolute need for the protector is exaggerated. Then again, i do treat like some piece of luxury :) Thank you for the good review. I'm sticking with my beloved bespoke flip4 for now. I hope flip 6 will have app launching on coverscreen properly natively supported, silly it still isn't with 5.
I just traded in my Z Fold 3 for the Pixel Fold a little less than a month ago. Had owned the Z Fold 3 since launch and had to have the screen protector replaced on four different occasions. Luckily, I live in the Bronx, so the Samsung Store in Manhattan was only a subway ride away; but it was still bothersome whenever I had to go because I would have to wait at the store no less than an hour and a half for the whole process. The very last time I got the protectors replaced was in late April, and the inner display one started lifting literally the next day, not even 24hrs after it had been installed.
Yes, context will be a big focus for the Flip 5 review. Might even do a dedicated comparison video with the RAZR, as I did a few generations back (circa 2020).
Great video as always and, you know what Michael, you are absolutely right. My Flip 4 screen decided to give up for no reason one morning as well as peeling around the hinge so I'm back to the slab of S23 Ultra now... Looking forward to the review but... Nah... I won't be getting one especially the Fold 5 as there doesn't seem to be any difference???
Love the honest breakdown, I had the flip 3 and loved the size but the battery was awful. Been wanting to get back into foldables so looking forward to seeing how the 5 really does against Motorola.
I had the 3 and currently a 4, at least for my moderate usage (web browsing, no games) I went from a dead battery every evening on the 3 to overnight charging only on the 4.
10:25, don’t get your hopes up Mike, I had the same issue with my multiple Folds. It means, it’s going to get worse, not better. I finally traded mine in for Ultra S23. As much as I love the foldables, esp. Fold, due to multiple Fold phone screen issues I have also folded, & I am going to stick with traditional phones until they get more stable because of screen issues.
I've been using Fold 4 for almost a year now and it's the best phone I've ever used. However, I don't get the praises about the Flex mode. It's strange, it's awkward, typing on it isn't that good, and it kinda breaks the big screen experience. It makes much more sense to get a case with a kickstand (I've got the Samsung's official one) and to be able to prop up the entire display. Works great for consuming content or some simple work, when paired with a BT keyboard.
Each mode has its uses. I admit that I haven't found Flex Mode as useful in as many situations as I'd like, but as someone who doesn't like to use a case, it's very handy in the situation I mentioned (watching video on airplane tray tables) and similar.
Flex Mode and several other Galaxy Fold praised software may be useful for a niche user group but for many, they are not important. For example, I never use flex mode as it is pointless for my use especially unlike the Pixel Fold the aspect ratio is poor meaning cropping on video. Also, more than two apps open on an eight-inch screen may be tolerable for youngsters but as you get older you buy a fold for larger text on a bigger display! So the much-hyped software functionality of the Galaxy Fold versus rivals seems to get overplayed by a minority techie subset.
@@TheMrMobile Okay, I understand your points. When you'll be reviewing the Fold 5, I recommend you at least try the kickstand case for a while, to see how it impacts the experience (because IMO it does wonders).
I'm glad they're getting better hinges. But I just traded my Fold4 for an S23 Ultra. I had the Fold4 since launch and I've loved it. Still think foldables are the future, but the hinge's durability is an issue. I had issues with the glue melting and causing the phone no longer to open fully. Samsung refused to cover it under warranty calling it "cosmetic" so I had to pay to go through Care+. Then my replacement had issues which got replaced and my third unit started getting a weird squeaky hinge issue after just 2 weeks of usage. So I just can't justify staying with a device that has durability issues like this when Samsung won't stand by their own $1800 product. I'll miss it a lot, but the big display and built in S-pen on the S23 Ultra should help ease that pain. Plus I get a better battery and camera system. I'll be back to the Fold when Samsung's warranty service gets better, the phone finally has dust resistance, the hinge is proven to be more durable, and the outer display is a tad bit wider.
Yes great review love it brother I'm with you got the new Pixel Fold for 900.00 the cameras take beautiful pictures better than my Z Fold 3. Love the different software that only on the Pixel plus the outer screen is great to use without having to open.
Worth noting the software improvements like increased recents in the taskbar are *not* exclusive to the Fold 5. They're just OneUI 5.1.1 improvements which will be available on at least the Fold 4 if not the Fold 3 as well.
Thanks for the update! Your channel is a great resource for keeping up with the foldable scene! My Zflip3 is still going strong, but it's nice to know there's a more substantial upgrade this time around. Let's hope the improvements keep coming!
Thanks for another great video Michael! I have to say that this video just continues to reinforce my position that these phones aren't for me. If one were given to me or I could buy one for half the price, it would be a different story, but I cannot justify dropping this amount of money on them. For me, the biggest problem is the durability. Yes, I hear you that it's far better then some would have you believe, but given just the stories you tell, I don't think I'd want these phones without a 3-4 year, full inner screen warranty. More than that though, the poor battery life at shipping implies that I'll be REALLY suffering after 2 years and given that the cameras are basically 2 years old and weren't top of the market when they were new, I just get even more worried about buyer's remorse. Bottom line for me, I think these phones are best for people who are more flush with cash than I am, and feel the need to update phones every 1-2 years. Thanks again for a great video, and I look forward to the next one! P.S. Speaking of expensive devices I can't justify buying, you need to stop wearing the Marq Captain... I am seriously jealous of how good that thing looks and every time I see it, those feelings come right back to the surface!
On ya’ Micheal much appreciated as always for your hard work. I’ve been sitting on the flip / fold fence since the first Samsung Gen 1 fold and not convinced yet, although the larger front display is finally here on the flip 5 I am just not enticed to leap off that fence. Samsung just seem to be too relaxed with their competition hot on their heels and is why I’ll enter the flip / fold world elsewhere most likely with Motorola’s razr plus.
Michael, you seem the perfect person to ask this question to: Do you see the a flush folding phone as a design flaw? The reason I ask is the V-shape on the Fold 4 seems perfect for letting dust pass through so nothing gets trapped inside. The displays folding shut flush seemed asking for trouble if something gets caught inside.
I'm using a flip 3 and I threw away the factory screen protector within a week of buying it. I'm currently using ringke screen protector that I installed myself to replace the factory protector. That was 20 months ago. I'm still on my first and only ringke screen protector and although it came in a pack of 2, still haven't use the 2nd one. If you think I baby my flip3, I'm work as a tradesman on a construction site and I'm on my 3rd phone case.
I’ve had the flip 4 and currently use the Razr, though I love Samsung The Razr stands out for me personally in two ways. The dust resistance and the multiple Bluetooth codecs it uses, I still don’t understand why Samsung doesn’t implement Aptx HD meanwhile Razr uses nearly all of them it even shows LHDC
I already own a S22 ultra for business and bought a Flip 4 just a week ago. The rumors weren't looking promising and I am baffled that the real deal is even a smaller upgrade than expected. I am happy to have bought the 4 for just 570 euros.
Your devotion for foldable phones 📱 means that MrMobile will not fold at all because whilst you are folding and flipping your dulcet tones mean that your videos are always enjoyable!
Check out Honor V Fold. That thing is beyond incredible. Only 8mm thick when closed, yet has 5000 mAh battery thanks to new battery technology. Also has 20:9 cover display, so can be used when unfolded like a normal phone. Sadly it is only released in China at the moment, but it should be possible to import. Probably the best foldable out there. I don't like that Samsung has decreased battery capacity, despite the thing being thick. If I am getting a foldable, I am going for the Honor thing.
If Samsung manages to fix the display issues this year, I will definitely switch from my S23 Ultra to the Fold 6....However, If they don't fix it, weeeelll.....I guess I'll wait another year or just buy another ultra Loved your video as always
In the UK armoured cases are not available for the RAZR, so I think I'll be waiting for the full review on the flip 5 before choosing. Spigen cases haven't let me down yet but they don't make Motorola RAZR cases unfortunately. Thanks for the first look
Thanks for this. I bought the Flip 3 based on your earlier review, was convinced by your review of the Razr+, then wound up getting a good offer from my phone company to get the Flip 5. Fingers crossed, I decided to stay with Samsung for the next two years.
Reader, my Flip5 screen crapped out at 11 months, and because I dropped it, Samsung want me to pay to replace. I wonder which foldable is the most durable.
At 4:42 he makes an excellent point in Samsungs shifts towards less gimmicky features and more towards refinement. I feel this may be to model like Apple less features now and doing it better than the original. (Idk could be a reach)
Fold 3 screen protector started lifting and developed "stress cracks" along the crease. Claimed insurance after warranty was done this past March/April and got a Fold 4. Had to pick up Whitestone screen protector for the inner screen because it didn't have one on it. I think the biggest problem with my Fold 3 was super cold temperatures (I was working from time to time in a freezer and was dumb enough to have the phone with me under all those layers but it probably didn't help it). See what kind of amazing deal my carrier provides because 99% of the time it's better than Samsung Canada's trade-in offers/deals. I'm just hoping the processor does a better job for video/picture capture. Not that the 3 or 4 were all that bad (lot of UHD recordings of my kids basketball games) but hopefully it helps out with some of the issues I had despite using the same camera setup. I like my Fold because I can leave my laptop at work, remote into it for anything that my Fold can't handle, and do it from literally anywhere that has a good internet connection. Looking forward to your review.
To be honest I am watching this on my Fold4 and I'm NOT switching to the Fold 5, after I watched almost four reviews and the Unpacked event. I just remembered watching the other day a review from Ben, where he reviewed The "Honor Magic V2" and it's astonishing how much more (is possible). It has a 7.9 inner inch screen, a 6.4 outta screen, and it still has a new thin Stacked 5,000 mAh Battery, I believe 4 × 50megapixel cameras, and it's just 9.9mm thick compared to, for example, my S23 ultra with 8.9 mm. And Honor at least has Google Services, plus a tolerable and manageable UI and maybe a need for getting used to Honor's software, which is going to be acceptable for me. I'm getting bored by Samsung. I need a total upgrade.That's for sure.
Kind of crazy that the flip 5 has a 3.6 inch cover screen in 2023 and just a couple of years ago the iphone 4 had a 4 inch screen. (Different aspect ratios, I know)
My fold 4 screen started peeling around 11 months in. Also it was harder to open fully. Samsung repaired the issues within 3 hours at a Samsung 837 store.
As you've covered in the video the screen protectors peeling is a serious issue that I really hope the new home design has fixed. On my Fold 3 I've had to send it back about once a year, since it peeled in almost exactly the same way twice. The bottom edge started lifting, which spread to the left and eventually lifted almost like a zipper up the crease. If the Pixel Fold 2 fixes the battery life and heat issues I'm definitely switching to that, but I don't want to jump ship now since my Blackberry Priv had those issues and eventually became unusable because of the extra wear on the battery for it.
I just pre-ordered the Fold 5 as my first foldable from an S22 Ultra ($1000 trade-in) and I already knew it would be an incremental update....but that's okay! The Fold 4 was already very successful so I'll take a tried and true design with a better hinge and minor software and hardware improvements. Companies do it all the time, and incrementation is a way to get closer to perfection.
Im in a similar boat with it being my first foldable. I only hope people like us don't cause samsung to think they can get more complacent with minimal upgrades
S22 ultra is a better phone battery and cam quality wise but if you like the portability of the phone, you're gonna enjoy it. Not gonna lie, it looks high tech. I'm disappointed that it still doesn't support samsung dex, that's another downgrade for me..
Christmas day for the 'into the fold' man 🙌🏽🙌🏽 so happy to see you have access to these devices and give us such a polished video about them today 👏🏽👏🏽
My fold 3 screen protector started bubbling and once it begins it accelerates to the whole length in a day or two, many believe that having it lift up can cause the screen to crack since when you close the phone that lifted protector will now put pressure on the screen where it folds. Since in my country Samsung uses a third party service/repair company that is rife with horror stories about how bad they are (and I didn't want to send my phone away for potentially weeks) I replaced it myself. I used a Whitestone Dome protector that many recommend and while it has also started to lift at the fold it hasn't accelerated the way the original did so perhaps it uses better adhesive.
I'm still a Fold 2019 user. I do really want the Spen, especially a slim one, but the very few changes from the 4 are very off-outting for such an expensive device.
Interesting preview. Thank you. Equally though, when I compare this to your preview of the iphone 15, I note the difference in tone and approach with regard to the latter. That said, your videos are a pleasure to watch and I am looking forward to your review of the Fold 5.
I still love my flip 3. The centre hasn't cracked yet (knocking on the laminated wood of my bedside table). I have maybe 2-3 scratches on the screen and have been without a screen cover for about a year (no samsung locations to get a new one). It's still fast and does what i need it to do. I'm quite happy but I'm excited for full screen flips in the future.
i feel like these are finally getting to be a bit more mainstream but at those prices i still get nervous about durability and longevity vs slab phones. especially at those prices. maybe pixel fold 2 or whoever releases the next fold but im looking forward to trying one sooner or later. wish samesung would up their game a little bit! maybe a last gen fold is the play right now
I've moved away from the fold and back to the s series. My fold 3 screen protector came off and I started to see small crack lines on the ultra thin glass.
Last year during the heatwave here in the UK. My fold3 screen started to lift then eventually it went all the way down and ruined the screen. Samsung were amazing they replaced it no issues at all. Yeah it took 5 days. But no issues at all it was within the year of purchase. This year we can get 2yrs care and protect with samsung for under £70 hell yes!!! That's a small price to pay for 2yesr worry free. Or the length of my contract as I like to think of it. The £69.99 is for Aby upgrades during pre release period. I only upgrade every 2 years.
So, assuming each generation of Flip/Fold will always come towards the end of the current SD flagship then? The 8 Gen 3 is just around the corner and they went with a Gen 2..
6:04 I kinda like the Samsung Keyboard in my opinion, it has some features that other keyboards couldn't. But it depends on what Samsung device you use. Samsung Keyboard on a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra is quite good. But using Samsung Keyboard on a Samsung Galaxy A03s is ATROCIOUS, it lags quite often, so I decided to use Swift Keyboard or GBoard on the A03s.
I'm so happy I moved over to the Pixel Fold...Samsung is just moving at a snails pace on improving the fold line...A wide front display that matches a normal phone, put the S Pen in the phone, and battery life are the 3 things I've wanted since Fold 3, and still for the 2nd iteration in a row, no significant change 😒...Maybe Z fold 10 they'll finally get it right...
Really tempted to take a leap to the other side after been on iPhone for a long time. Thank you Mike for your honest review. I guess I’ll keep waiting for a better phone.
Hi, Mr. Mobile- love your reviews and content! I wanted to ask, in your mind between the galaxy flip 5 and razr plus, is there a clear winner? Which one are you recommending to folks out there?
Finally! A cover screen worth using for more then just resuming music playback and checking the time! Seriously, the notification management on the Flip 3/4 cover screen is a joke. My Fossil Gen5 smartwatch can do more then the Flip 3 cover screen which is really sad... While I'm keeping an eye out for any new foldable, and these changes to the Flip are really exciting, I have sworn to myself that I'm only going to upgrade either once my Flip bites the dust (aka UTG cracks) or it stops getting software updates. Hopefully the latter is going to be the reason why. So far tho, the Flip 3 seems to be my most durable phone yet, dropped it once accidentally from shoulder height onto tile flooring and no visible damage outside of some minor scuffs...
Hi Michael, I always like all your videos a lot! Very informative in a good and interesting way! When do give your full review of the Z Fold5? I'm curious, because I own one myself since end of july. Thanks!👍
I really do love foldables but its so hard to recommend them right simply because they arent durable enough to last. I bought a flip 3 and loved the thing the bits until after 3 months a center crack in the screen appeared getting worse and worse until 6 months after initial purchase when the upper and lower parts of the lcd started to split apart on folds killing the phone. It wad fun while it lasted, it just didnt last near long enough
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Mr. Mobile is the go to guy when it comes to folding and flipping gadgets 😅😅😅
Word, his insights are more genuine and relevant than what most end up putting out
Totally
He should rename himself mrfold now
He's the go to guy for any mobile phone period
I scrolled past three other flip5 reviews and went straight to Michael's
As usual, your coverage of foldables is amongst the best in the business .
agreed
Agreed x3
I think Shane Craig is much better. His channel is solely revolved around foldables and covers software updates and changes and tips/tricks as well.
@terrancecloverfield6791 he doesn't really cover non US foldables though.
@MrMobile, I'm so glad I watched this BEFORE preordering the Fold 5! You just saved me making a HUGE mistake. After 9 months of owning a Fold 4, Samsung was unable to repair it (after 3 times I asked for my money back), and after 3 weeks, low and behold they sent me $1,799.99. I'm shocked they did, but also very happy to be done with them.
Let's hope the next foldable contender gives us something we deserve.
Sending this from a Moto Razr Plus 2023.
What exactly went wrong with your Fold 4
@@22b_gc8 The 2 issues I had were: the inner screen protector was peeling off, and the outer screen was scratched to hell. Keep in mind that I bought Samsung care from day 1. I called Care (assuming I'd have to pay a deductible due to scratching the front screen), but they told me that due to the inner screen issue, they'd repair the whole thing for free.
Shipped it to them the first time. They sent it back the same day they received it "repaired". Nope. They replaced the screen protector, but damaged the inner screen by either dropping a screwdriver on it, or something with a tip as there was a dimple on it that wasn't there before me sending it in. They also replaced the entire phone housing, and camera lenses, but did not fix the outer screen.
The 2nd time I shipped it, they again sent it back the same day they received it, but this time they only replaced some internal antenna. They did not fix either the outer or inner screens.
The 3rd time I called several times to ask if it would actually get fixed this time, or if they could just send me a new phone. A week after they received it, they told me it was now out of warranty due to the scratches on the screen.
I tweeted out to Samsung Mobile USA, and LTT, and a day later, called in, spoke to a manager, and all of a sudden I was offered a full refund. It was promised within 3-5 business days, but actually took 3 weeks, but they did indeed send me my money via Citi Bank.
I can't wait for Samsung to have a proper competitor here in the States. Google lame 1st attempt is a joke, though at least it's an attempt. Maybe by the 3rd or 4th iteration, it might be worth buying. But until then, I'll stay on my Moto or iPhone, or maybe even a Note 13, eh hmh. I mean S23 Ultra. Samsung knows how to make phones, but not folding ones that hold up... Yet.
@@byersbw I can see how that must have been super frustrating and Samsung customer service leaves a lot to be desired, but it sounds like the only issue that the phone had originally was that the screen protector was peeling? Everything after that happened due to Samsung repair center screwing up. So it doesn't seem fair to say that "Samsung knows how to make phones, but not folding ones that hold up" based on that. For what it's worth, I've had my Fold 3 for almost 2 years and I also only had an issue with the inner screen protector peeling off. Fortunately, I have a Samsung repair center in my city where I can just bring in the phone and have the inner screen protector replaced within 1 hour. So it's not major issue for me to have it replaced 1-2 times a year. Besides that, the phone is working perfectly with no issues.
Love the foldable coverage! I've gotta agree about Samsung foldables having an issue with their screen protectors. I've owned the Flip 1, 3, and 4, and every single one has had cracks form in their protectors in less than a year. Currently on the Pixel Fold and hoping its screen holds up better.
Screen protectors? You could have just change it for free you know
@@diablo4624 I'm aware, but there's no Samsung repair centers near me so I'd have to ship it and be phone-less for a while. It's not great when that's the assumed experience of using a foldable (that potentially multiple times a year you will have to get it repaired).
@@jishhd Yeah, It sucks to be fair.
I myself bought off brand screen protector for my flip and it's definitely better than the factory one
@@diablo4624 Based off what he says about the 5's hinges, I'm hoping that puts less pressure on the installed protectors. But for the earlier models, Samsung really should've owned it and included an extra internal screen protector with every device. You're right you can buy 3rd party, but IMO you shouldn't have to buy anything extra.
Good lock is not available in many many countries. I do not understand this silly limitation
My Fold 2 shared near all the failure points you described, lifting screen protector, lost bumpers etc. Despite that, it has been my longest winded device. I imagine all the changes between the 2 and 5 would feel significant, but as a whole I don't think the full has evolved much beyond the 2.
I went from the Fold 2 to the Fold 4 and I love the wider front screen. Even if it's still minimal and Iike that the hinge wasn't as long. So less bulky. Besides that, the changes don't seem that crazy after almost a year with the Fold 4. If I were you, I'd keep rocking that Fold 2. I miss treated mine a lot but still survived. Only issue I had was peeling screen protector 😊
The fold two is so bad compared to the 4
@@davidaguero451 if ya say so
Will be upgrading from the Fold 4, but I'm disappointed by the lack of camera improvement with the 5. I agree that when you are paying so much for these devices, Samsung should really make them cutting edge in every way.
You’re gonna upgrade even though you’re disappointed in innovation and pricing? Then why are you doing it dodo?
@timothyxxxpaul When I posted that I was assuming through the Samsung Upgrade programme. Since then however I've received a message to say that is ending, so now I'm not so sure. They are giving a big discount but will think a bit more about it.
I would like them to go all out on the camera, but it doesn't mean it won't be better or that incremental changes in other ways won't be welcome.
@@SP-nv1sgcheck with your service provider. I have t-mobile and they allow you to upgrade whenever you want if you have insurance.
We're on the 5th generation for the flip and fold already! Time goes by far too quickly.
Right?? It feels like it was only a year ago when my eyes were bugging out of my head at the concept of a folding screen
thanks for talking about the fail rates for the fold devices. my fold 3 started showing cracks along the crease almost 2 years into ownership...i bought it preordered at launch. the screen protector started to peel so i removed it, a couple of weeks later i noticed three 1cm cracks along the crease. i was fuming! i fought samsung tooth and nail and managed to get them to offer a 'courtesy one-time repair' of my screen. i just got it back a few days ago and it's basically a new screen,hinge and frame.
moral of the story folks if you take care of your fold and have no physical damage other than the manufacture defect that is the fold 3 screen, don't take no as an answer if you're out of warranty!
So I guess the count down for the Fold, Flip 6 begins
Samsung really needed to step up this year, and it looks like they've fallen short of that. Hopefully the 1+ foldables are good enough to kick them back into gear next year.
Yeah this looks just like a "ooh we are getting comptetion, maybe we should copy there waterdrop.
Their 2024 foldables will probably already be in the final stages of design, so I doubt any new phones released now will have any impact except on price
If the consistency and similarities meant Samsung could price them cheaper than Motorola, then it would be fantastic. But right now, if had to dump my Surface Duo I would get a Motorola instead.
@@nathanvrvrt Copy? In that case, every company copied Samsung for making a foldable.. I don't get you guys. Y'all complain when they don't make any significant design changes and when they do, you call em out for "copying". >_>
@@DiceRoboTrade in deals make the flip far cheaper than motorola. Bestbuy gave me a free flip 4 and $100 when I traded in my s21 ultra in november. Now I'm trading my flip 4 for the flip 5 and only paying $99.06. No other company is offering anything remotely as good as samsung price wise.
Excellent preview sir! I'll be sitting out this year. Like you mentioned... not enough enhancements on the Z Fold5. Will say that I've been happy with the Z Fold4 performance and durability over the last year. No concerns of it lasting another year. Thanks again.
The protector on my Flip 4 started coming off after just a few months. In theory I could have gotten a free new Samsung one, if only they were in stock and somewhere within 50 miles of me (near Baltimore) was authorized to put them on. I got such a run-around from the two authorized repair centers that I gave up and put a third party one on myself, and ironically it's lasted better than the original. That aside, lack of dust protection on the new ones makes them a no-go for me. Something has gotten into my 4's hinge and now it won't lay flat at all, it opens to maybe 170 degrees, which is really annoying. So probably back to slab phones for me for my next one, sadly, as I do like the flip form factor.
FYI for anyone with screen protector issues I recommend the Whitestone which i picked up for 16 quid on amazon. Comes with a little jig thing for perfect alignment. Much better oleophobic coating and feels far less likely to peel. I swapped mine a couple of months ago and its a very worthwhile upgrade even if you don't have peeling.
Yes I just put it on my Pixel Fold very easy
Samsung specifically says not to put third party screen protectors in the inner screen unless you want your warranty voided.
@@chelseawhite7551 just keep the original one and replace it if something happens, problem solved.
@@chelseawhite7551facts. I'm keeping mine on my Z Fold 4. Hope they have fun having problems in the long run
@chelseawhite7551 pretty sure for the fold 4 removing the screen protector no longer voids the warranty so if anything ever happened just remove it before you send in if that was the case. It's a bit of PET plastic film the exact same as the one samsung uses so no chance it could cause any damage.
Got here to see the previews of these devices.... listened to "kill two elephants with one room" over and over. Mr. Mobile, your wordsmithing is top-notch and cracks me up!!!
Those colors!!! The flip has always been a compelling phone for me and Ive been waiting for the design to improve so I can get one. The Flip 5 hits almost all of what I'd want, so I'm excited for the full reviews
I use a fold 4 and RAZR+. Just switched from the zflip4. Love the super clean UI with RAZR+, surprised at the huge difference.
I hate Samsung UI interface, it seems very overloaded to me. I prefer Stock Android from Moto.
I replaced my screen protector on my zfold4 for the first time last week. Luckily I just happen to live nearby a galaxy store so it was as simple as going there (no appointment needed) and getting it replaced. But it's still something that feels it shouldn't be necessary.
Definitely not an upgrade year for me, but hope for some exciting movement by next year!
What happend to your screen?
@@JRBowling1997the inner screen has a pre installed screen protector. This tends to start peeling up at the hinge. My fold 4 is starting to do this as well.
Same here on the fold 3. I had my inner screen protector replaced twice already but it's just a matter of going to the local Samsung store to have it replaced within an hour. So not a major issue for me. But I can see how it would be a major PITA if you don't have any Samsung repair centers near you and you need to ship the phone to Samsung every time you need this done.
@@FierceSmurfN8r mine is just starting to bubble up at the top... o god
@@JRBowling1997 yep and I have no places anywhere near me that will replace it. So I either have to live with it or mail it in to Samsung. I highly doubt they will compensate me for being without a phone for a week or two. Not sure how long it would take.
Hey, just wanted to say that I came here first before clicking on anyone else's videos. You are my first to go to for new videos.
Samsung's flip cover screen is sleek, very sleek, but I prefer the quirky razr screen
It really seems as if the SoC is the only selling point of this gen for Samsung
Razr+ also supports Ready For while the Z Flip 5 doesn't support Dex. 😂😂😂
@@PSYCHOV3N0M wait the leaks said it was supposed to support dex
They scrapped that??
That's ridiculously stupid, razr it is.
@PSYCHOV3N0M well it's a software so maybe they can implement it later, hoping it comes to flip 4 coz I ain't planing to upgrade for just a screen
And the processor does not take much advantage with the one that the Razr + has. The two processors are very powerful and can handle everything.
I've been looking forward to this particular initial review for a while.. it was your review of the Galaxy Fold 3 that prompted me to give foldables a try. And, for the most part, the benefits of using a foldable, along with the screen issues, were borne out. I DID end up replacing the inner screen. For free (always get Samsung's extra coverage). Since I am not a frequent picture-taker, the deficiencies of the camera impacted me less.
Given that l don't use the unit for business as you do, I expect to be better served by a flip phone. So I am l looking forward to a full review of the Flip 5. Your reviews are a bit more accessible. Your friend from the Unlockr is knowledgeable, and gives excellent detail in his reviews (I subscribe to him as well). But yours can be more understandable to the common schmuck! Fortunately, I work in the telecommunications industry.
Looking forward to your next review.
Thank god for your channel man
Nobody provides the meticulous coverage you do for foldable/flippables
10:14 I can attest to this. I love my Z Flip 4, but I already got my screen protector placed once, and I noticed that it's peeling at the crease AGAIN! And frankly, I don't like having to pay $40 a piece for a piece of plastic that's supposed to stay on your phone at all times.
I want one. For me, it's the thickness basically being halved by both thinner pieces of phone, but also the hinge closing completely shut.
I think it finally looks banging!
I hope the Razr/Flip comparison videos come out soon
I love the fold 5 look and style, sure its not the biggest change.. But I've been wanting an foldable, so this is definitely something I'm interested in
I have the Fold4, great phone. If Fold 5 your first fold you will like it. Samsung has the best software on foldables
I have flip4 since december and i've peeled the screen protector months ago and honestly feel like should've done it sooner. No issues and the screen is so much better off now. I'm generally an extra-accurate person, but still believe absolute need for the protector is exaggerated. Then again, i do treat like some piece of luxury :)
Thank you for the good review. I'm sticking with my beloved bespoke flip4 for now. I hope flip 6 will have app launching on coverscreen properly natively supported, silly it still isn't with 5.
I just traded in my Z Fold 3 for the Pixel Fold a little less than a month ago. Had owned the Z Fold 3 since launch and had to have the screen protector replaced on four different occasions. Luckily, I live in the Bronx, so the Samsung Store in Manhattan was only a subway ride away; but it was still bothersome whenever I had to go because I would have to wait at the store no less than an hour and a half for the whole process. The very last time I got the protectors replaced was in late April, and the inner display one started lifting literally the next day, not even 24hrs after it had been installed.
Nice name 😂
@@Vizzy285 😂😂😂
I would love to see a comparison review between the Z Flip 5 and the RAZR+
I have the razor+ and had the Z flip 4. The razor is superior. I still think it's better than the Z flip 5. IMO
Yes, context will be a big focus for the Flip 5 review. Might even do a dedicated comparison video with the RAZR, as I did a few generations back (circa 2020).
@@Techfanatic73 This year Motorola did a better job. I have heard that the bending crack of the Flip 5 is more accentuated due to the hinge change.
Great video as always and, you know what Michael, you are absolutely right. My Flip 4 screen decided to give up for no reason one morning as well as peeling around the hinge so I'm back to the slab of S23 Ultra now... Looking forward to the review but... Nah... I won't be getting one especially the Fold 5 as there doesn't seem to be any difference???
Love the honest breakdown, I had the flip 3 and loved the size but the battery was awful. Been wanting to get back into foldables so looking forward to seeing how the 5 really does against Motorola.
I had the 3 and currently a 4, at least for my moderate usage (web browsing, no games) I went from a dead battery every evening on the 3 to overnight charging only on the 4.
10:25, don’t get your hopes up Mike, I had the same issue with my multiple Folds. It means, it’s going to get worse, not better. I finally traded mine in for Ultra S23. As much as I love the foldables, esp. Fold, due to multiple Fold phone screen issues I have also folded, & I am going to stick with traditional phones until they get more stable because of screen issues.
THANK YOU! I love my Fold4, but don't know why my screen protector is coming off AGAIN this year. Not as much, but still...
The 2019 Samsung lineup had the prettiest phones imo, That Aurora glow colour was just Chef's kiss
I've been using Fold 4 for almost a year now and it's the best phone I've ever used. However, I don't get the praises about the Flex mode. It's strange, it's awkward, typing on it isn't that good, and it kinda breaks the big screen experience. It makes much more sense to get a case with a kickstand (I've got the Samsung's official one) and to be able to prop up the entire display. Works great for consuming content or some simple work, when paired with a BT keyboard.
Each mode has its uses. I admit that I haven't found Flex Mode as useful in as many situations as I'd like, but as someone who doesn't like to use a case, it's very handy in the situation I mentioned (watching video on airplane tray tables) and similar.
Flex Mode and several other Galaxy Fold praised software may be useful for a niche user group but for many, they are not important. For example, I never use flex mode as it is pointless for my use especially unlike the Pixel Fold the aspect ratio is poor meaning cropping on video. Also, more than two apps open on an eight-inch screen may be tolerable for youngsters but as you get older you buy a fold for larger text on a bigger display! So the much-hyped software functionality of the Galaxy Fold versus rivals seems to get overplayed by a minority techie subset.
@@TheMrMobile Okay, I understand your points. When you'll be reviewing the Fold 5, I recommend you at least try the kickstand case for a while, to see how it impacts the experience (because IMO it does wonders).
I'm glad they're getting better hinges. But I just traded my Fold4 for an S23 Ultra. I had the Fold4 since launch and I've loved it. Still think foldables are the future, but the hinge's durability is an issue. I had issues with the glue melting and causing the phone no longer to open fully. Samsung refused to cover it under warranty calling it "cosmetic" so I had to pay to go through Care+. Then my replacement had issues which got replaced and my third unit started getting a weird squeaky hinge issue after just 2 weeks of usage. So I just can't justify staying with a device that has durability issues like this when Samsung won't stand by their own $1800 product. I'll miss it a lot, but the big display and built in S-pen on the S23 Ultra should help ease that pain. Plus I get a better battery and camera system.
I'll be back to the Fold when Samsung's warranty service gets better, the phone finally has dust resistance, the hinge is proven to be more durable, and the outer display is a tad bit wider.
I had the flip 4 and I also traded it in for a S23 Ultra. The screen protector was starting to peel and I wanted to send it in before it got worse lol
Same here. My fold four hinge glue leaked from the hinge causing failure. I immediately got the s23 ultra as well.
This is one of the best documentaries I’ve seen from an egyptian content creator.
Well I bought the fold two three and four but it looks like I'll be saving some money this year
Yes great review love it brother I'm with you got the new Pixel Fold for 900.00 the cameras take beautiful pictures better than my Z Fold 3. Love the different software that only on the Pixel plus the outer screen is great to use without having to open.
Worth noting the software improvements like increased recents in the taskbar are *not* exclusive to the Fold 5. They're just OneUI 5.1.1 improvements which will be available on at least the Fold 4 if not the Fold 3 as well.
Design wise. I actually like the flex window over the full panel that the Razr+ has.
It's much funnier to watch this first look when you already have Samsung galaxy fold. And thank you, you are best reviewer I've ever watched.
Mr. Fold I mean Mr. Mobile your passion for foldables is awesome! Great video
Thanks for the update! Your channel is a great resource for keeping up with the foldable scene!
My Zflip3 is still going strong, but it's nice to know there's a more substantial upgrade this time around. Let's hope the improvements keep coming!
Thanks for another great video Michael! I have to say that this video just continues to reinforce my position that these phones aren't for me. If one were given to me or I could buy one for half the price, it would be a different story, but I cannot justify dropping this amount of money on them. For me, the biggest problem is the durability. Yes, I hear you that it's far better then some would have you believe, but given just the stories you tell, I don't think I'd want these phones without a 3-4 year, full inner screen warranty. More than that though, the poor battery life at shipping implies that I'll be REALLY suffering after 2 years and given that the cameras are basically 2 years old and weren't top of the market when they were new, I just get even more worried about buyer's remorse.
Bottom line for me, I think these phones are best for people who are more flush with cash than I am, and feel the need to update phones every 1-2 years.
Thanks again for a great video, and I look forward to the next one!
P.S.
Speaking of expensive devices I can't justify buying, you need to stop wearing the Marq Captain... I am seriously jealous of how good that thing looks and every time I see it, those feelings come right back to the surface!
This is the closest one can get to daily driver review. Kudos Mr. Mobile!😊
On ya’ Micheal much appreciated as always for your hard work. I’ve been sitting on the flip / fold fence since the first Samsung Gen 1 fold and not convinced yet, although the larger front display is finally here on the flip 5 I am just not enticed to leap off that fence. Samsung just seem to be too relaxed with their competition hot on their heels and is why I’ll enter the flip / fold world elsewhere most likely with Motorola’s razr plus.
Moto Razr+ seems to have won the battle this year.
Michael, you seem the perfect person to ask this question to: Do you see the a flush folding phone as a design flaw? The reason I ask is the V-shape on the Fold 4 seems perfect for letting dust pass through so nothing gets trapped inside. The displays folding shut flush seemed asking for trouble if something gets caught inside.
I'm using a flip 3 and I threw away the factory screen protector within a week of buying it. I'm currently using ringke screen protector that I installed myself to replace the factory protector. That was 20 months ago. I'm still on my first and only ringke screen protector and although it came in a pack of 2, still haven't use the 2nd one. If you think I baby my flip3, I'm work as a tradesman on a construction site and I'm on my 3rd phone case.
I’ve had the flip 4 and currently use the Razr, though I love Samsung The Razr stands out for me personally in two ways. The dust resistance and the multiple Bluetooth codecs it uses, I still don’t understand why Samsung doesn’t implement Aptx HD meanwhile Razr uses nearly all of them it even shows LHDC
Good point.
4:16 "Let's kill two elephants with one room". What a phrase. Makes absolutely zero sense 😂🤣
I already own a S22 ultra for business and bought a Flip 4 just a week ago. The rumors weren't looking promising and I am baffled that the real deal is even a smaller upgrade than expected. I am happy to have bought the 4 for just 570 euros.
Your devotion for foldable phones 📱 means that MrMobile will not fold at all because whilst you are folding and flipping your dulcet tones mean that your videos are always enjoyable!
Check out Honor V Fold. That thing is beyond incredible. Only 8mm thick when closed, yet has 5000 mAh battery thanks to new battery technology. Also has 20:9 cover display, so can be used when unfolded like a normal phone. Sadly it is only released in China at the moment, but it should be possible to import. Probably the best foldable out there. I don't like that Samsung has decreased battery capacity, despite the thing being thick. If I am getting a foldable, I am going for the Honor thing.
If Samsung manages to fix the display issues this year, I will definitely switch from my S23 Ultra to the Fold 6....However, If they don't fix it, weeeelll.....I guess I'll wait another year or just buy another ultra
Loved your video as always
You're already in 2024!
In the UK armoured cases are not available for the RAZR, so I think I'll be waiting for the full review on the flip 5 before choosing. Spigen cases haven't let me down yet but they don't make Motorola RAZR cases unfortunately. Thanks for the first look
Thanks for this. I bought the Flip 3 based on your earlier review, was convinced by your review of the Razr+, then wound up getting a good offer from my phone company to get the Flip 5. Fingers crossed, I decided to stay with Samsung for the next two years.
Reader, my Flip5 screen crapped out at 11 months, and because I dropped it, Samsung want me to pay to replace. I wonder which foldable is the most durable.
Another issue of the Fold 4 is the flex cable that handles BT, audio and Wifi also easily breaks within a year.
At 4:42 he makes an excellent point in Samsungs shifts towards less gimmicky features and more towards refinement. I feel this may be to model like Apple less features now and doing it better than the original. (Idk could be a reach)
Just traded in my Flip 4 for the Flip 5 and I can’t wait!
Fold 3 screen protector started lifting and developed "stress cracks" along the crease. Claimed insurance after warranty was done this past March/April and got a Fold 4. Had to pick up Whitestone screen protector for the inner screen because it didn't have one on it.
I think the biggest problem with my Fold 3 was super cold temperatures (I was working from time to time in a freezer and was dumb enough to have the phone with me under all those layers but it probably didn't help it).
See what kind of amazing deal my carrier provides because 99% of the time it's better than Samsung Canada's trade-in offers/deals.
I'm just hoping the processor does a better job for video/picture capture. Not that the 3 or 4 were all that bad (lot of UHD recordings of my kids basketball games) but hopefully it helps out with some of the issues I had despite using the same camera setup.
I like my Fold because I can leave my laptop at work, remote into it for anything that my Fold can't handle, and do it from literally anywhere that has a good internet connection.
Looking forward to your review.
Have had every Fold and a few Flips. Haven't had any durability issues. Love these phones
To be honest I am watching this on my Fold4 and I'm NOT switching to the Fold 5, after I watched almost four reviews and the Unpacked event.
I just remembered watching the other day a review from Ben, where he reviewed The "Honor Magic V2" and it's astonishing how much more (is possible).
It has a 7.9 inner inch screen, a 6.4 outta screen, and it still has a new thin Stacked 5,000 mAh Battery, I believe 4 × 50megapixel cameras, and it's just 9.9mm thick compared to, for example, my S23 ultra with 8.9 mm. And Honor at least has Google Services, plus a tolerable and manageable UI and maybe a need for getting used to Honor's software, which is going to be acceptable for me.
I'm getting bored by Samsung. I need a total upgrade.That's for sure.
Crispy 4K, 60 fps, and a very nice hands-on video. Thanks Michael! I also was hoping more from Samsung ...
This is the best review yet!
Kind of crazy that the flip 5 has a 3.6 inch cover screen in 2023 and just a couple of years ago the iphone 4 had a 4 inch screen.
(Different aspect ratios, I know)
My Fold 5's plastic bumper near the hinge got loose after a week. I'll see how it holds up over the year. Im uncertain about Samsung's QC.
My fold 4 screen started peeling around 11 months in. Also it was harder to open fully. Samsung repaired the issues within 3 hours at a Samsung 837 store.
As you've covered in the video the screen protectors peeling is a serious issue that I really hope the new home design has fixed. On my Fold 3 I've had to send it back about once a year, since it peeled in almost exactly the same way twice. The bottom edge started lifting, which spread to the left and eventually lifted almost like a zipper up the crease. If the Pixel Fold 2 fixes the battery life and heat issues I'm definitely switching to that, but I don't want to jump ship now since my Blackberry Priv had those issues and eventually became unusable because of the extra wear on the battery for it.
Hurrah. Spotted the Surface Duo in the mix. 👏👏
Been loving my Razr+ thanks to your review. Looking to get a Fold 4 or 5 for my wife soon.
I just pre-ordered the Fold 5 as my first foldable from an S22 Ultra ($1000 trade-in) and I already knew it would be an incremental update....but that's okay! The Fold 4 was already very successful so I'll take a tried and true design with a better hinge and minor software and hardware improvements. Companies do it all the time, and incrementation is a way to get closer to perfection.
Im in a similar boat with it being my first foldable. I only hope people like us don't cause samsung to think they can get more complacent with minimal upgrades
S22 ultra is a better phone battery and cam quality wise but if you like the portability of the phone, you're gonna enjoy it. Not gonna lie, it looks high tech. I'm disappointed that it still doesn't support samsung dex, that's another downgrade for me..
Christmas day for the 'into the fold' man 🙌🏽🙌🏽 so happy to see you have access to these devices and give us such a polished video about them today 👏🏽👏🏽
My fold 3 screen protector started bubbling and once it begins it accelerates to the whole length in a day or two, many believe that having it lift up can cause the screen to crack since when you close the phone that lifted protector will now put pressure on the screen where it folds. Since in my country Samsung uses a third party service/repair company that is rife with horror stories about how bad they are (and I didn't want to send my phone away for potentially weeks) I replaced it myself. I used a Whitestone Dome protector that many recommend and while it has also started to lift at the fold it hasn't accelerated the way the original did so perhaps it uses better adhesive.
I'm still a Fold 2019 user.
I do really want the Spen, especially a slim one, but the very few changes from the 4 are very off-outting for such an expensive device.
I waited on buyin the razr to see wut the flip 5 offered... Razr is my preferred choice but preorder deal on flip 5 is ultra tempting
Sammy is saving the goodies for the Fold and Flip 6. They played it safe this year.
Interesting preview. Thank you. Equally though, when I compare this to your preview of the iphone 15, I note the difference in tone and approach with regard to the latter. That said, your videos are a pleasure to watch and I am looking forward to your review of the Fold 5.
It's honestly great that the fold 5 is barely an upgrade so when I buy a much discounted Fold 4 I wouldn't be missing much.
Great coverage video as always, Mr. Mobile 👌 Since I watch you and your foldable reviews, I own one myself now 😁
I have all the foldable and flips. My current dailys are OnePlus Open and Razr+
But what about if you’re a first time fold owner? Are we set for a wonderful first time experience?
I still love my flip 3. The centre hasn't cracked yet (knocking on the laminated wood of my bedside table). I have maybe 2-3 scratches on the screen and have been without a screen cover for about a year (no samsung locations to get a new one). It's still fast and does what i need it to do. I'm quite happy but I'm excited for full screen flips in the future.
i feel like these are finally getting to be a bit more mainstream but at those prices i still get nervous about durability and longevity vs slab phones. especially at those prices. maybe pixel fold 2 or whoever releases the next fold but im looking forward to trying one sooner or later. wish samesung would up their game a little bit! maybe a last gen fold is the play right now
I've moved away from the fold and back to the s series. My fold 3 screen protector came off and I started to see small crack lines on the ultra thin glass.
The Moto flip phone doesn't really have a bigger front screen - as the camera holes take up a lot of usable space.
Last year during the heatwave here in the UK. My fold3 screen started to lift then eventually it went all the way down and ruined the screen. Samsung were amazing they replaced it no issues at all. Yeah it took 5 days. But no issues at all it was within the year of purchase. This year we can get 2yrs care and protect with samsung for under £70 hell yes!!! That's a small price to pay for 2yesr worry free. Or the length of my contract as I like to think of it. The £69.99 is for Aby upgrades during pre release period. I only upgrade every 2 years.
Flip Ultra. S23 ultra that flips 😮 man can't wait 😄. Great review
So, assuming each generation of Flip/Fold will always come towards the end of the current SD flagship then? The 8 Gen 3 is just around the corner and they went with a Gen 2..
6:04 I kinda like the Samsung Keyboard in my opinion, it has some features that other keyboards couldn't.
But it depends on what Samsung device you use. Samsung Keyboard on a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra is quite good. But using Samsung Keyboard on a Samsung Galaxy A03s is ATROCIOUS, it lags quite often, so I decided to use Swift Keyboard or GBoard on the A03s.
Could you make a video talking about raw video on android?(Motion cam Pro)
I'm so happy I moved over to the Pixel Fold...Samsung is just moving at a snails pace on improving the fold line...A wide front display that matches a normal phone, put the S Pen in the phone, and battery life are the 3 things I've wanted since Fold 3, and still for the 2nd iteration in a row, no significant change 😒...Maybe Z fold 10 they'll finally get it right...
Agreed, they are at the 5th generation of their fold lineup, and it still hasn't changed much.
Appreciate your perspective and coverage of foladables. Thanks for the hands-on coverage.
Really tempted to take a leap to the other side after been on iPhone for a long time. Thank you Mike for your honest review. I guess I’ll keep waiting for a better phone.
Enjoyed the video. You are the go to TH-cam tech guy when it comes to foldables.
Hi, Mr. Mobile- love your reviews and content! I wanted to ask, in your mind between the galaxy flip 5 and razr plus, is there a clear winner? Which one are you recommending to folks out there?
Finally! A cover screen worth using for more then just resuming music playback and checking the time!
Seriously, the notification management on the Flip 3/4 cover screen is a joke. My Fossil Gen5 smartwatch can do more then the Flip 3 cover screen which is really sad...
While I'm keeping an eye out for any new foldable, and these changes to the Flip are really exciting, I have sworn to myself that I'm only going to upgrade either once my Flip bites the dust (aka UTG cracks) or it stops getting software updates. Hopefully the latter is going to be the reason why. So far tho, the Flip 3 seems to be my most durable phone yet, dropped it once accidentally from shoulder height onto tile flooring and no visible damage outside of some minor scuffs...
Hi Michael, I always like all your videos a lot! Very informative in a good and interesting way! When do give your full review of the Z Fold5? I'm curious, because I own one myself since end of july. Thanks!👍
Great video as always! I just bought the pixel Fold and I love it so far. Does it have the Waterdrop or U type crease?
The Pixel Fold does, yes.
This final clap was very satisfying 😅
*CLAK*
I really do love foldables but its so hard to recommend them right simply because they arent durable enough to last. I bought a flip 3 and loved the thing the bits until after 3 months a center crack in the screen appeared getting worse and worse until 6 months after initial purchase when the upper and lower parts of the lcd started to split apart on folds killing the phone. It wad fun while it lasted, it just didnt last near long enough