Did anyone note there was no 5 or 7 in the rankings? How is it the Navara always scores last even though the review said it can get there eventually? I find the Navara great on road, traction control works great and perhaps the only issue is a bit of ground clearance but then a small lift/change in suspension would see that fixed anyway
It’s great to see and hear positive criticism on what these utes are made for. Can’t say much for the mega test CarAdvice did a few months ago. Well done 4x4 Australia
And outside of warranty you would only own the D Max or Triton . I believe you need to mention the on going problems faced with the "popular" utes . Rangers DPF , auto and now recalls on steering failure , Hilux's injectors (again) and DPF failures . You are right , the D Max isn't as refined , but its also the only ute here that will live with a maxed gcm everyday and with money saved over the others you can go nuts at ARB and get your lockers !
It's true the isuzu has its engine (which is actually quite good) and excellent reliability as it's main selling points where I live in Thailand. It's the most popular pickup, along with the hilux. A lot of rangers are sold also but they do seem to have a lot of problems, as indicated by complaints on their local facebook page.
Alex Frankl : Yes there are few problems and issues with most of the common brands of Utes, the DPF failures are mostly due to not doing much highway running for extended periods of time for heat buildup to allow proper regeneration of the DPF , and from most of the guys that I’ve spoken to that run vehicles such as the Toyota, Mazda and Ranger in relation to (and some that have had these particular problems) most are related to (or) mostly town or city driving according franchise dealerships .I myself haven’t had such problems with my current vehicle, as for the fire risk, it’s a storm in a tea cup really and it will be fixed by new heat shielding that stops long grass accumulation and buildup from occurring.
Alex Frankl None of the brands are much into warranty repairs these days anyway. All the dealers across the various brands do their best to weasel out of repairs any time they can. Nissan - rattling egr valve since new 'operating normally' Isuzu - seat fabric worn through at 40k - 'fair wear and tear' Colorado - excess oil usage 'monitor' (eventual engine failure) These are all real faults and from either myself or good mates who own these cars.
A well presented wrap up. One thing not talked about is the VW torque limiting in reverse gear. 550nm is great going forwards, but if you only have 200nm going backwards then in deep sand or trying to reverse a heavy boat up a driveway, the wheels just won't turn. Beware if these are things you plan to use the vehicle for.
What a load of horse shit! Tow over 80kph and warranty is voided? Crap! Who told you that? Give them a kick in the nads for lying! Torque limiting? Firstly, many manufacturers vehicles do not perform as well in reverse as forward. I have seen cruisers stuck in soft sand and unable to reverse. Mind you, I did reverse my auto (no low range)Amarok in the same spot without any issues. Can't reverse out? Since when? Even towing a trailer in very soft deep sand, I have never had a problem reversing. If the vehicle can move, it will do so as you would expect any vehicle to do. If it's bogged to the eyeballs, then it's not going anywhere in either direction, just throwing dirt with the tyres.
Amarok V6 is the pick, particularly once VW sort the airbag issue and add a safety tech pack option. It’s the most car like, has the best drive train and is a proven performer off the blacktop even without a transfer case.
Why is the navara is so underrated. I personally own one here in the philippines and i have no complaint. I even like how it ride compare to a harsh leaf spring suspension of other pick up truck. I know its not the best pick up truck in the market but its the best truck for me.
Dmax not as fast you say?. Go to reaper diesel in Perth you will have your mind blown with how tuneable they are and the power figures are pretty mind blowing so I've heard and have seen at the drag strip
So let me get this right ,the hilux has the most wheel travel in its class, but hampered by traction control being turned off to the front wheels when difflock is engaged. Exactly the same as the Mazda BT 50, which has the same suspension travel and geometry , gearing ratio , tyres size, ground clearance and power/torque specs as the ford ranger except for the front traction cancellation when the difflock is engaged . So ranger comes 2nd with less wheel travel than hilux and Mazda is 4 equal with the same wheel travel as the ranger, but suffers with traction cancelling to the front the Same as the hilux ? Sounds more like 3rd equal between the Mazda and hilux according to your review.
No,he has been my mechanic for over 15 years and he has never steered me wrong or ripped me off. As you may know, when you find a good, honest,mechanic you stick with them.
Thats ridiculous. The v6 diesel in the amarok has been in audi and vw cars since early 2000's and has proven to be a very reliable engine. The 8sp auto is from ZF which is also by far the best in any ute on the market and proven in many other high powered cars for its strength and refinement. So whats your mechanic on about ?
Agreed. Speaking as both a former mechanic and former car sales rep, I have never seen any other 4WD vehicle come back into the dealer on the back of a tow truck more frequently than the Amarok.
Cars Downunder iv been watching that d max driven by Graham.. it's done nothing special at all. Hes a great talker and it's a show any ute can do what it's doing and some more
he is paid to do that though and given that ute each time this is his 3rd and this is why they do not have any lockers/mods other than suspension mod because they test products. BTW as Stranach said, it does not have a great traction control no matter how much Graham says it has. I would listen to Stranach any day over than John Badmouth Bogan who claims to be autoexpert!
Why do these reviews only ever test the same handful of utes? It would be great to see the LDV T60 and Great Wall Steed in the mix. Not expecting them to win, but they’re cheap enough to warrant consideration so it would be nice if professional car reviewers would review them so consumers have at least some information that doesn’t come out of a brochure. Perhaps even do a ‘Cheap Utes Shootout’ where only sub $35k utes are put through the ringer?
Is that what happened? There was no mention of that. If they've tried but not been successful in gaining a test unit that should be stated. People can then draw their own conclusions about a manufacturer that doesn't want their product tested.
Depends if they think they can make the value calculation work. You don't need to be the best ute in the competition to be the best value for money. Is a V6 Amarok worth two Great Walls? I't's a different way of thinking for these comparisons, but more similar to the way that actual buyers think when money definitely is a deciding factor. And again, if they had tried to obtain a test vehicle but were unable to, that should have been stated.
what I'm saying is if they tested a Great Wall no one in their right mind would buy one, absolute 0 resale, 0 reliability, very low performance and build quality would be the review, so who in their right mind would buy one after that, would you ? that's why we don't have it to review and yes its easily worth two if you ever want to drive it then sell it
Always interesting comparisons, Backing can get you out of tricky situations off road so how about doing a test where you back these vehicles up an off road hill ?,
A big part of the purchase decision should be how the manufactures respect their customers. The alleged Hilux DPF, Colorado oil use, Ranger grass burning, ACCC Ford $10m Fine & ACCC Holden Compliance , VW Deiselgate. Customer service and reliability should be part of the scoring system if this is used for a buyer recommendation
I noticed you never mentioned safety , the cheapest ute and the one you battled to put down and had to admit it gets the job done also has the best safety rating. More than 36.3 from 37 in testing. To me it is under powered other than that it is by far the best value of all these , Was offered a new one today for 32k drive away no more to pay and is also by far the cheapest to maintain. Triton. No I never bought it , the lack of power in all these utes would drive me nuts. But its for the wife and I will consider it after I test a few others. Its definitely worth considering for the missus with that safety rating.
even with all its problems the hilux will always make top 3 cause they always spend to much on advertising. nearly every review I read about it the dpf has issues, the air intake makes it go into limp mode, etc etc. People only buy them for the wierd resale value, its the same as VW and ford now that holden does not have the advertising budget....gotta look after the sponsers. Grab the same utes and review after 100 000kmm and see whhat the result is
The dust issue is unacceptable however it only occurs in extreme conditions. Obviously you shouldn't have to fix it after spending 60g on the car but there are aftermarket fixes available. DPF, according to Toyota, is now fixed as of latest ECU update. For what it's worth, mines at 55k, it's taken a pounding towing, offloading etc, and has been faultless, would by the thing over again no question
i owned hilux 2.5g 2015 and hilux 2.8le 2018, no major complaints. but i like 2.5g 2015 more. direct feel of power transfer. and no reluctant feeling to dive into the bushes rich roads..
David Burt yeah I am pretty impressed with it actually. I still think low range in a 4x4 is a must to be a proper off-roader. But, as I said. Very impressed.
Really enjoyed this one guys. Despite having watched just about every worthwhile review for these vehicles, you'll still had so much crucial information that others missed - especially given these vehicle's use case. Now there are a lot of changes and differences in what we get here in India - almost no utes, only some of their SUV versions - but it's still illuminating for a buyer. Wish you'll had included steering feel for all the vehicles though. Cheers!
I've driven all of them many times, bar the Mercedes... and the Holden Colorado is definitely the fastest, that duramax is a ball tearer!! Easily spins first gear, huge amounts of torque.
Granted, they do make very good power, but where it falls down for me is in terms of the interior. The grade of the dash plastics and the multimedia graphics just seem a little cheap to me.
Every car is ok as new but what people need to know how the will look like after 100 000km after 200 000km if riden decently and service intervals followed. Visually for me is winner Ford Ranger, but question is, is there some hooks waiting for owner.
Wow no Hilux fan boys on here yet disputing the call. I came to the same conclusion when buying my Ranger. The reason I didn't go the Amarok? The dealers are arrogant a$$holes and I didn't have confidence in their ability for after sales customer support. That an I used my own cash and the Amarok is so much more expensive when its equipped to the Ranger levels. But the ride, initial quality and power of the Amarok are a step above the rest at the moment. VW just need to sort there shit out before I hand over my hard earned.
One of these manufacturers has the highest reliability, highest resale value, highest quality, and highest technology. It also has bigger Market Cap than all other major automaker combined, wonder why?
ford resale on ranger is as much as the hilux now. do a bit of research before becomming a sheep and just liking hilux coz of the badge. they are not good cars anymore and have way more DPF issues than the ford
RANGER Cheaper to buy comfortable to drive very strong light on fuel and fukin beautiful truck all vehicles can break if you are stupid enough not to look after your vehicle argue with me if you own one
Can someone please explain to me what this so called dpf issue with the hilux is? Most of the driving I do is on country roads in Australia 100 - 110 kph only local towns where its 50kph here and there, so I am not sure exactly how this translates to this issue the Hilux has? A lot of people i know who have the Sr5 said they haven't had any issues.... If someone could let me know that would be great as I am on the verge of buying one...
Hi Mark, We have elaborated on the issue here: www.whichcar.com.au/news/toyota-prado-no-cost-flat-tailgate-dpf-switch Basically if you don't drive your Hilux long enough for the engine to get up to operating temperature, it won't be able to produce the heat to burn off the particle build up in the DPF filter by itself. It is understood this usually affects drivers who don't drive their Hiluxes on long enough journeys, particularly those who live in cities where their destinations are very close by. But if you live in the country, and drive long enough at cruising speeds to bring the engine up to operating temperature, often enough, you should be fine. The engine will automatically regenerate the filter without you having to do anything. Hope that helps.
Personally the only utes I would consider even looking at in this mix are the Dmax or the Hilux but in all honesty I wouldn't even want to spend the money on any of these new cars my Hilux is nearly 30 years old now and has well over 400,000 ks on it and still runs like the day it was bought, they just don't build them like they used to and that's the truth. Sure it's only got about 90hp and 186nm of torque which is anorexic by today's standards but I know I would pick the old girl to do a trip through hell and back any day because I know an old Toyota will do it time and time again without fail, I'd love to see any of these apart from the Dmax or hilux last past 350,000ks. But out of all of them I wouldn't own the VW if my life Fu*cken depended on it. And in my opinion solid Axels destroy IFS off-road regardless of how old they are, they flex better are much more durable and 10000x more reliable no rubber boots to tare.
interesting you have 9 different utes, we call them small pickups in the US, and all we get are chevy, toyota, nissan and honda an d now ford ranger, can you say protectionism of the big 3 pickup trucks, Ford Chevy and Dodge.
That Merc is a bit disappointing when you think how much they are charging for them and what they could have done with it. Likewise its a shame the Amarok V6 doesnt have low range gearing and from what I have read it is not a great tower either.
I used to live in América and owned and still own a tacoma trd pro. I wanted to buy an australian truck but thought that the merc was slugish, stiff and has no storage, the Amarok didnt even have low range, and the hilux was stiff, plus the tacoma was 10000000X better off road and the only truck i thought was good was the bt 50 but i just brought the taco Instead.
Same here and just bought my second one. In Zambia where roads are hectic and I tow a boat constantly this thing is a beast. But they never review it in these types of videos.
John Grayland you dont know much about these utes then. The landcruisers are dinosaurs compared the worst of the utes it has no business in this group. Over priced underperforming lumps of shit.
John Grayland that 4wd would absolutely stomp on these other pieces of crap. Personally these are just city cars and I wouldn’t touch them on the dirt roads.
Haha really mabey per 2016. The new dpf hilux are fucked even Toyota told some of the big mineing places two by pass it and if told them how to do it. Then when Toyota was question on it they back peddle that quick it wasn't funny.
Great review and thanks. I like Frasers matter of fact commentary and love the detailed performance specs. Matts haircut ? Ummm - will get back to you. ;)
Number one king of champion is mitsubishi triton very very very very good futuristic advance safety features technology in every aspects better handling better driving performance comfortable very good traction hill descend control down hill uphill ,good for driffting ,speeding ,cornering,manuvering,sliding that why mitsubishi could become the greatest champion in guinness book of world record. AXCR championship rally off-road racing Thailand Laos to Cambodia the winner is Mitsubishi Triton 2.4 intelligent engineering more functional safety features
Why do all the trucks in Australia come with that cab guard thing in the bed? I love trucks so I should know what it’s called but I have just never considered putting one in mine. Are all of them easily removable? That would mess with a lot of stuff I would like to do with the bed so I would definitely want to take it off ASAP.
Nathan Curet its a roll bar, protects the cab from crushing if it tip over or rolling down the hill, just like how race cars have roll cage inside, some are just for the looks
All these utes are marketed as family off road tow vehicles but if you look at the specs the GVM and GCM is very poor and if in a accident could possibly leave you with no insurance. Have a good look underneath them and you will be shocked at where some of the wiring , pipes for brakes fuel and transmission lines are placed not to mention how easy the cv boots bust if used for bush work amongst sticks and ruggered terrain.DPF components hang down low on some of these cars as well.In the auto models of these utes check to see if they have a oil cooler for the transmission if intention of towing. The only cooling standard in many of these utes are pipes that run through the bottom of the radiator.This system can fail and you end up with radiator coolant in your transmission. Do not trust the sales people.Best to do research before buying a modern 4wd as there is a lot of expensive components to replace if failures occur once out of warranty.
Australia is a really specific country when it comes to pickup trucks. You really need trucks like we got in America, but you don't get them. That sucks. Towing heavy stuffs those shits that you got is horrible. You think that 450NM is quite a lot? My uncle's new Ford F250 makes triple of this!
My dad has purchased the bt50 and it is pretty thirsty he told me if I use it I should filled the tank😏 I think I will buy the d max because its fuel efficiency🤷🏻♂️ and also the design is pretty cool
I Think he said that so you “wouldn’t use it” lol . They (Bt50)aren’t that thirsty , the new hilux’s 2.8 engine uses more than the 3.2L the real test is when towing and loaded up , that’s when you see how thirsty the smaller capacity engines are !
5 cylinders = Massive rego and insurance = more fuel consumption Why dont you make a comparison with all 4 cylinders utes instead of playing around with these 5 cylinder ones?
If you buy a ranger, make sure you always take your dog with you, so you have a friend to walk home with.
You got me😆😅😆
James May at least it makes over 1 hp
😂😂😂 LOL
James May Is
Why so bad is it?
Did anyone note there was no 5 or 7 in the rankings? How is it the Navara always scores last even though the review said it can get there eventually? I find the Navara great on road, traction control works great and perhaps the only issue is a bit of ground clearance but then a small lift/change in suspension would see that fixed anyway
You have Ranger as coil springs on its specs on screen FYI.
It’s great to see and hear positive criticism on what these utes are made for. Can’t say much for the mega test CarAdvice did a few months ago. Well done 4x4 Australia
David Rome
Yes it was piss poor review , done with a lot biased and “favourites” of asphalt warriors .
And outside of warranty you would only own the D Max or Triton . I believe you need to mention the on going problems faced with the "popular" utes . Rangers DPF , auto and now recalls on steering failure , Hilux's injectors (again) and DPF failures . You are right , the D Max isn't as refined , but its also the only ute here that will live with a maxed gcm everyday and with money saved over the others you can go nuts at ARB and get your lockers !
It's true the isuzu has its engine (which is actually quite good) and excellent reliability as it's main selling points where I live in Thailand. It's the most popular pickup, along with the hilux. A lot of rangers are sold also but they do seem to have a lot of problems, as indicated by complaints on their local facebook page.
Alex Frankl : Yes there are few problems and issues with most of the common brands of Utes, the DPF failures are mostly due to not doing much highway running for extended periods of time for heat buildup to allow proper regeneration of the DPF , and from most of the guys that I’ve spoken to that run vehicles such as the Toyota, Mazda and Ranger in relation to (and some that have had these particular problems) most are related to (or) mostly town or city driving according franchise dealerships .I myself haven’t had such problems with my current vehicle, as for the fire risk, it’s a storm in a tea cup really and it will be fixed by new heat shielding that stops long grass accumulation and buildup from occurring.
I thought d-max was made by Isuzu and Toyota on the same hilux platform?
Agent. K. . No , absolutely no relation.
Alex Frankl
None of the brands are much into warranty repairs these days anyway.
All the dealers across the various brands do their best to weasel out of repairs any time they can.
Nissan - rattling egr valve since new 'operating normally'
Isuzu - seat fabric worn through at 40k - 'fair wear and tear'
Colorado - excess oil usage 'monitor' (eventual engine failure)
These are all real faults and from either myself or good mates who own these cars.
A well presented wrap up.
One thing not talked about is the VW torque limiting in reverse gear.
550nm is great going forwards, but if you only have 200nm going backwards then in deep sand or trying to reverse a heavy boat up a driveway, the wheels just won't turn.
Beware if these are things you plan to use the vehicle for.
Serious? So if you go 4wd and get bogged. You def can't even try reversing out?
Overboost also doesn't work when towing
And if you tow over 80km/h the Warrenty is voided...
What a load of horse shit! Tow over 80kph and warranty is voided? Crap! Who told you that? Give them a kick in the nads for lying! Torque limiting? Firstly, many manufacturers vehicles do not perform as well in reverse as forward. I have seen cruisers stuck in soft sand and unable to reverse. Mind you, I did reverse my auto (no low range)Amarok in the same spot without any issues. Can't reverse out? Since when? Even towing a trailer in very soft deep sand, I have never had a problem reversing. If the vehicle can move, it will do so as you would expect any vehicle to do. If it's bogged to the eyeballs, then it's not going anywhere in either direction, just throwing dirt with the tyres.
Practicality Mitsubishi Triton is hands down the winner for me.
Amarok V6 is the pick, particularly once VW sort the airbag issue and add a safety tech pack option.
It’s the most car like, has the best drive train and is a proven performer off the blacktop even without a transfer case.
David Burt proven performer in the suburbs, no regional area have amaroks for a reason
Why is the navara is so underrated. I personally own one here in the philippines and i have no complaint. I even like how it ride compare to a harsh leaf spring suspension of other pick up truck. I know its not the best pick up truck in the market but its the best truck for me.
Pictured the Navara during Triton review.
Dmax not as fast you say?. Go to reaper diesel in Perth you will have your mind blown with how tuneable they are and the power figures are pretty mind blowing so I've heard and have seen at the drag strip
since when did the ranger have coil springs in the rear? do you guys even know what you are testing?
So let me get this right ,the hilux has the most wheel travel in its class, but hampered by traction control being turned off to the front wheels when difflock is engaged. Exactly the same as the Mazda BT 50, which has the same suspension travel and geometry , gearing ratio , tyres size, ground clearance and power/torque specs as the ford ranger except for the front traction cancellation when the difflock is engaged . So ranger comes 2nd with less wheel travel than hilux and Mazda is 4 equal with the same wheel travel as the ranger, but suffers with traction cancelling to the front the Same as the hilux ? Sounds more like 3rd equal between the Mazda and hilux according to your review.
When considering buying a dual cab I spoke with my mechanic, the only advice he gave me was don't get the Amorak.
Is that because your mechanic wants you to get a DualCab which will have problems in the future, so you can come to him for repairs?
No,he has been my mechanic for over 15 years and he has never steered me wrong or ripped me off. As you may know, when you find a good, honest,mechanic you stick with them.
Thats ridiculous. The v6 diesel in the amarok has been in audi and vw cars since early 2000's and has proven to be a very reliable engine. The 8sp auto is from ZF which is also by far the best in any ute on the market and proven in many other high powered cars for its strength and refinement.
So whats your mechanic on about ?
Agreed. Speaking as both a former mechanic and former car sales rep, I have never seen any other 4WD vehicle come back into the dealer on the back of a tow truck more frequently than the Amarok.
@@bk558462 I know 2 people with amarok and both said the same thing, DON'T buy one.
in malaysia,we trust japan production for long term reliability...
Did You test the 2018 triton because its very good off road and its got 3500kg towing capacity
Was it upgraded to 3500kg from 3200kg?
I think it was upgraded from 3100kg to 3500kg
freelander fan the Triton is clearly the “value for money” winner. Does everything okay and has a reputation for dependability.
Triton is the best value, and if u want more confort go to the navara
Dmax I would own, have you seen how it's used on 4wd action in standard form apart from mud tyres and 50mm lift.
Cars Downunder iv been watching that d max driven by Graham.. it's done nothing special at all. Hes a great talker and it's a show any ute can do what it's doing and some more
vevohoeyo Unlike the other guy, he is also a good driver.
Ikr the winch pulls it well
he is paid to do that though and given that ute each time this is his 3rd and this is why they do not have any lockers/mods other than suspension mod because they test products. BTW as Stranach said, it does not have a great traction control no matter how much Graham says it has. I would listen to Stranach any day over than John Badmouth Bogan who claims to be autoexpert!
As the mates said a lot winch work a good talker and ain’t stock
Why do these reviews only ever test the same handful of utes? It would be great to see the LDV T60 and Great Wall Steed in the mix. Not expecting them to win, but they’re cheap enough to warrant consideration so it would be nice if professional car reviewers would review them so consumers have at least some information that doesn’t come out of a brochure.
Perhaps even do a ‘Cheap Utes Shootout’ where only sub $35k utes are put through the ringer?
because you got to have the product to test and if the dealer/manufacturer doesn't want to hand out demos for this particular reason then no test
Is that what happened? There was no mention of that. If they've tried but not been successful in gaining a test unit that should be stated. People can then draw their own conclusions about a manufacturer that doesn't want their product tested.
think about it, if you were a great wall dealer would you want anyone to test your vehicle against any of these ?
Depends if they think they can make the value calculation work. You don't need to be the best ute in the competition to be the best value for money. Is a V6 Amarok worth two Great Walls? I't's a different way of thinking for these comparisons, but more similar to the way that actual buyers think when money definitely is a deciding factor.
And again, if they had tried to obtain a test vehicle but were unable to, that should have been stated.
what I'm saying is if they tested a Great Wall no one in their right mind would buy one,
absolute 0 resale, 0 reliability, very low performance and build quality would be the review,
so who in their right mind would buy one after that, would you ?
that's why we don't have it to review
and yes its easily worth two if you ever want to drive it then sell it
Always interesting comparisons, Backing can get you out of tricky situations off road so how about doing a test where you back these vehicles up an off road hill ?,
A big part of the purchase decision should be how the manufactures respect their customers. The alleged Hilux DPF, Colorado oil use, Ranger grass burning, ACCC Ford $10m Fine & ACCC Holden Compliance , VW Deiselgate. Customer service and reliability should be part of the scoring system if this is used for a buyer recommendation
Triton FTW.
I noticed you never mentioned safety , the cheapest ute and the one you battled to put down and had to admit it gets the job done also has the best safety rating. More than 36.3 from 37 in testing. To me it is under powered other than that it is by far the best value of all these , Was offered a new one today for 32k drive away no more to pay and is also by far the cheapest to maintain. Triton. No I never bought it , the lack of power in all these utes would drive me nuts. But its for the wife and I will consider it after I test a few others. Its definitely worth considering for the missus with that safety rating.
amarok number one with no airbags in the back seat, wont be putting my kids in it
79 series landcrusier?
I don't like modern utes they are to much like cars they are not like they used to be in the 80s and 90s
Nissan Navara is the best
ISUZU NO.1
long time carzy bicth!!!!
isuzu is strong with towing a big heavy caravan had a isuzu myself thats how i know the biiggest underdog when it comes to power and muscle for towing
Landcruiser 70 series???
I'll stay with Navara. Thank you.
Even though its not a pick up because its a piece of shit
@@spacegaming7015 show your 4by4 pick up, haven't right showingly you are shit
@@pernohazimat4164 lol what im saying are facts
@@spacegaming7015 it's depends how experience you have,skill and the right way choose that gear 2wd,4 4wd mate...
@@pernohazimat4164 it appears you don't know why the navara is the worst pick up lol
even with all its problems the hilux will always make top 3 cause they always spend to much on advertising. nearly every review I read about it the dpf has issues, the air intake makes it go into limp mode, etc etc. People only buy them for the wierd resale value, its the same as VW and ford now that holden does not have the advertising budget....gotta look after the sponsers.
Grab the same utes and review after 100 000kmm and see whhat the result is
The dust issue is unacceptable however it only occurs in extreme conditions. Obviously you shouldn't have to fix it after spending 60g on the car but there are aftermarket fixes available. DPF, according to Toyota, is now fixed as of latest ECU update. For what it's worth, mines at 55k, it's taken a pounding towing, offloading etc, and has been faultless, would by the thing over again no question
Since when has Johnny bravo had a goatee?
i owned hilux 2.5g 2015 and hilux 2.8le 2018,
no major complaints.
but i like 2.5g 2015 more.
direct feel of power transfer.
and no reluctant feeling to dive into the bushes rich roads..
Cool video. Good to see Ford and GM doing well over there too. Yall will get the Ranger Raptor soon!
@ 2:43 I didn't know the Ranger had "coil spring" rear suspension???
Where the big 79 series
Really surprised to find out there is no low range in the Amarok.
It’s has a ZF 8 speed and clearly the first 2 low ratios in the box do the trick.
David Burt yeah I am pretty impressed with it actually. I still think low range in a 4x4 is a must to be a proper off-roader. But, as I said. Very impressed.
i still dont know how a ute with no low range wins, copared to others.
juankyboy123 I hear you mate. To be a proper off-road utility. You need low range.
Low range isnt needed so much with auto trans.
Great review guys and a really well put together video. Thanks
Really enjoyed this one guys.
Despite having watched just about every worthwhile review for these vehicles, you'll still had so much crucial information that others missed - especially given these vehicle's use case.
Now there are a lot of changes and differences in what we get here in India - almost no utes, only some of their SUV versions - but it's still illuminating for a buyer.
Wish you'll had included steering feel for all the vehicles though.
Cheers!
Is there a reason global trucks typically have those 1980's exhaust tubing roll bars?
I've driven all of them many times, bar the Mercedes... and the Holden Colorado is definitely the fastest, that duramax is a ball tearer!! Easily spins first gear, huge amounts of torque.
LSA711 that’s what Holden do, make cars to do single wheel burnouts for the bogans
Granted, they do make very good power, but where it falls down for me is in terms of the interior. The grade of the dash plastics and the multimedia graphics just seem a little cheap to me.
A bit bias towards the amarok don’t u think? And u put the Navara and dmax at the bottom WOW!
Can’t wait for the ranger to came to North America I’ll definitely consider buying it
Do the sand driving surface in all the latest ute
why is it that the US has the least number of UTS [Chevy, Toyota, Nissan and Honda} but biggest market?
Is this guy really tesst cars?
Every car is ok as new but what people need to know how the will look like after 100 000km after 200 000km if riden decently and service intervals followed. Visually for me is winner Ford Ranger, but question is, is there some hooks waiting for owner.
Mitsubishi Triton the best pickup for speeding on highway and off-road
Wow no Hilux fan boys on here yet disputing the call.
I came to the same conclusion when buying my Ranger.
The reason I didn't go the Amarok? The dealers are arrogant a$$holes and I didn't have confidence in their ability for after sales customer support. That an I used my own cash and the Amarok is so much more expensive when its equipped to the Ranger levels. But the ride, initial quality and power of the Amarok are a step above the rest at the moment. VW just need to sort there shit out before I hand over my hard earned.
Thats because all of the Hilux boys have faced Reality and either bought a Ranger or the Amarok. haha :-)
Shit box ranger cracked head fucked gear boxes and they catch on fire
One of these manufacturers has the highest reliability, highest resale value, highest quality, and highest technology. It also has bigger Market Cap than all other major automaker combined, wonder why?
ford resale on ranger is as much as the hilux now. do a bit of research before becomming a sheep and just liking hilux coz of the badge. they are not good cars anymore and have way more DPF issues than the ford
Mitsubishi......
79 series landcruiser real 4x4 utes for the win
1 TOYOTA 2 ISUZU 3 FORD 4 MAZDA 5 MITSUBISHI
Data specifications between ford 2:48 and hilux 14:55 are the same... ???
5cyl in QLD = rip off rego.
No mention of safety features? Pretty sure the VW would be back on the bottom of the list if that was factored.
Why do most Australian utes have rollbars? Styling? I like it regardless, wish America did that :)
RANGER Cheaper to buy comfortable to drive very strong light on fuel and fukin beautiful truck all vehicles can break if you are stupid enough not to look after your vehicle argue with me if you own one
Can someone please explain to me what this so called dpf issue with the hilux is? Most of the driving I do is on country roads in Australia 100 - 110 kph only local towns where its 50kph here and there, so I am not sure exactly how this translates to this issue the Hilux has? A lot of people i know who have the Sr5 said they haven't had any issues.... If someone could let me know that would be great as I am on the verge of buying one...
Hi Mark,
We have elaborated on the issue here: www.whichcar.com.au/news/toyota-prado-no-cost-flat-tailgate-dpf-switch
Basically if you don't drive your Hilux long enough for the engine to get up to operating temperature, it won't be able to produce the heat to burn off the particle build up in the DPF filter by itself. It is understood this usually affects drivers who don't drive their Hiluxes on long enough journeys, particularly those who live in cities where their destinations are very close by.
But if you live in the country, and drive long enough at cruising speeds to bring the engine up to operating temperature, often enough, you should be fine. The engine will automatically regenerate the filter without you having to do anything. Hope that helps.
Hi 4x4 Australia, Thank you for your reply that helps a lot. I appreciate the response.
Do they not have a TRD pro Toyota or the ZR2 colorado outside the US? I never see them being reviewed but i always see wildtrack rangers.
No ZR2 Colorado in Australia, and I believe the TRD Hilux was recently discontinued. (though it was just an accessory pack, no engine changes.)
Just practically says the same thing for every car..
Personally the only utes I would consider even looking at in this mix are the Dmax or the Hilux but in all honesty I wouldn't even want to spend the money on any of these new cars my Hilux is nearly 30 years old now and has well over 400,000 ks on it and still runs like the day it was bought, they just don't build them like they used to and that's the truth. Sure it's only got about 90hp and 186nm of torque which is anorexic by today's standards but I know I would pick the old girl to do a trip through hell and back any day because I know an old Toyota will do it time and time again without fail, I'd love to see any of these apart from the Dmax or hilux last past 350,000ks. But out of all of them I wouldn't own the VW if my life Fu*cken depended on it. And in my opinion solid Axels destroy IFS off-road regardless of how old they are, they flex better are much more durable and 10000x more reliable no rubber boots to tare.
I'm curious about your hilux fuel consumption
Why do u keep testing the sr model for the hilux?
CompactK1ll3r don’t really think there’s much difference between the sr and the sr5 other than a few bells and whistles on the interior
Toyota HILUX is the best
No wasted words i like it
interesting you have 9 different utes, we call them small pickups in the US, and all we get are chevy, toyota, nissan and honda an d now ford ranger, can you say protectionism of the big 3 pickup trucks, Ford Chevy and Dodge.
Mate traded his rangers in for V6 Amarok, said ranger is a far better car, now waiting to go back to Ford again `~~
Amazing!
What is Mercedes Benz doing here ?
That Merc is a bit disappointing when you think how much they are charging for them and what they could have done with it. Likewise its a shame the Amarok V6 doesnt have low range gearing and from what I have read it is not a great tower either.
patfromozZ they are putting out a manual with low range soon I heard.
I used to live in América and owned and still own a tacoma trd pro. I wanted to buy an australian truck but thought that the merc was slugish, stiff and has no storage, the Amarok didnt even have low range, and the hilux was stiff, plus the tacoma was 10000000X better off road and the only truck i thought was good was the bt 50 but i just brought the taco Instead.
Carlos Cristoffanini D M A X
I have the v6. It's amazing, over all the competition so far. Try it then write whatever u want
Same here and just bought my second one. In Zambia where roads are hectic and I tow a boat constantly this thing is a beast. But they never review it in these types of videos.
Mitsubishi Triton Best Pickup !!!
I like the new look of the Mazda
Why no 79 series landcruiser in the review? It can do things none of these Utes can do.
Doesn’t stack up as an everyday family hauler. Great 4x4 but the liveability questionable
it cant drink fuel like no one would believe which is certainly something these utes cant compete with it on
John Grayland you dont know much about these utes then. The landcruisers are dinosaurs compared the worst of the utes it has no business in this group. Over priced underperforming lumps of shit.
John Grayland that 4wd would absolutely stomp on these other pieces of crap. Personally these are just city cars and I wouldn’t touch them on the dirt roads.
the 79 is in a class of its own and will curb stomp the compition to obvion but falls behind in creature comfort.
And still no mention of all the reliability issues i suppose they are all as bad as each other so no need to mention it.
Except the dmax the only one you want to own outside of warranty
Toyota hilux is he most reliable Ute in this video, hands down
Haha really mabey per 2016. The new dpf hilux are fucked even Toyota told some of the big mineing places two by pass it and if told them how to do it. Then when Toyota was question on it they back peddle that quick it wasn't funny.
It's Ranger all the way. Best pickup we've had, far much better than the Hilux.
Great review and thanks. I like Frasers matter of fact commentary and love the detailed performance specs. Matts haircut ? Ummm - will get back to you. ;)
Um, that was a Navara behind the Triton's stats.
Number one king of champion is mitsubishi triton very very very very good futuristic advance safety features technology in every aspects better handling better driving performance comfortable very good traction hill descend control down hill uphill ,good for driffting ,speeding ,cornering,manuvering,sliding that why mitsubishi could become the greatest champion in guinness book of world record. AXCR championship rally off-road racing Thailand Laos to Cambodia the winner is Mitsubishi Triton 2.4 intelligent engineering more functional safety features
Agree with the comment about Ford customer service not good in my experience, I would avoid them in the future for now anyway.
A y of them CVT?
Hilux all the way.
What does ute mean?
Cannae hear y'all boys very well.
Why have i never seen any of these trucks in the us?
Because the US prefers bigger pickups. (F150, RAM and Silverado)
The Benz 100-0 in 39.2m the Amarok 48.4m Wow 9.2 m difference. Benz for me .
why are some of the utes lowest model from there range
Why do all the trucks in Australia come with that cab guard thing in the bed? I love trucks so I should know what it’s called but I have just never considered putting one in mine. Are all of them easily removable? That would mess with a lot of stuff I would like to do with the bed so I would definitely want to take it off ASAP.
Nathan Curet its a roll bar, protects the cab from crushing if it tip over or rolling down the hill, just like how race cars have roll cage inside, some are just for the looks
Nathan Curet or get a removable one
Very clear and good explanation. Thank you very for your efforts.
I wonder why these utes dont have AT tires on stock considering they’re allrounder.
doesn't VW Amarok have it?
DeepBlackice it doesn’t
All these utes are marketed as family off road tow vehicles but if you look at the specs the GVM and GCM is very poor and if in a accident could possibly leave you with no insurance.
Have a good look underneath them and you will be shocked at where some of the wiring , pipes for brakes fuel and transmission lines are placed not to mention how easy the cv boots bust if used for bush work amongst sticks and ruggered terrain.DPF components hang down low on some of these cars as well.In the auto models of these utes check to see if they have a oil cooler for the transmission if intention of towing.
The only cooling standard in many of these utes are pipes that run through the bottom of the radiator.This system can fail and you end up with radiator coolant in your transmission.
Do not trust the sales people.Best to do research before buying a modern 4wd as there is a lot of expensive components to replace if failures occur once out of warranty.
Isuzu D'max!!!
There is a reason that when you go north or west in the most isolated parts of Australia you only see hilux. Buy whatever you want it’s your money 👍
Australia is a really specific country when it comes to pickup trucks. You really need trucks like we got in America, but you don't get them. That sucks. Towing heavy stuffs those shits that you got is horrible. You think that 450NM is quite a lot? My uncle's new Ford F250 makes triple of this!
Jackson we get your trucks over here our country sells them at crazy prices.
You’re looking at over 150k for an f250 over over here and that’s second hand
your talking 4cyl vs 6/7L v8s... you prob fill up once twice a week too
My dad has purchased the bt50 and it is pretty thirsty he told me if I use it I should filled the tank😏 I think I will buy the d max because its fuel efficiency🤷🏻♂️ and also the design is pretty cool
I Think he said that so you “wouldn’t use it” lol . They (Bt50)aren’t that thirsty , the new hilux’s 2.8 engine uses more than the 3.2L the real test is when towing and loaded up , that’s when you see how thirsty the smaller capacity engines are !
Which one of the cars is bigger in size???
Nice454 thank you brother
wwooahhhh nice review!!! the review of all reviews!
not a good test...
5 cylinders
= Massive rego and insurance
= more fuel consumption
Why dont you make a comparison with all 4 cylinders utes instead of playing around with these 5 cylinder ones?
Where's the LDV T60?
Wrong hilux mate, should’ve tested the sr5
Lual Lual agree. I was surprised its not SR5 which has bigger and better tires.