*Guys sorry for my few mistakes😭 I don't have access to the latest last denuvo release ( I think no one have ) as steamdb also removed the manifest of last available denuvo version Therefore the only remaining option i had to make use of my old uploaded video of callisto protocol ( when denuvo was present in initial versions ) for left side comparison and right side am using latest steam denuvoless release. Please forgive if i hurt anyone, I'm not misleading anyone, just tried my best to make close to possible comparison between both.
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Making your game worse with features like denuvo makes people want to pirate. If the legit copy ran flawlessly and it didn’t have trash monetization practices (in game shop for single player games), many people wouldn’t pirate. Besides poor people who also deserve to play.
the benchmark really ran much faster, ingame not so much. Was thinking why, and I think its because the ingame is GPU bottlenecked. So the CPU optimization caused by removal of denuvo, cant be seen. Would be interresting to test it in some very low resolution, so GPU bottleneck is removed. Thanks for a comparison. The results are indeed strange to me :)
Hi it's kinda strange for me as well, benchmarks have a much bigger performance gap. Which the gameplay doesn't. Talking about low resolution, my 5700x will cry 😂 this game is weird all I can say, check my earlier ( cracked vs original comparison video ) both are denuvoless versions ( one is repack and other is steam) and steam version giving better performance and again benchmark is opposite lmao .. btw thanks for the comment. I wasted tons of GB to download and test 3 versions XD
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks Hi, I report here that there are indeed large in-game performance gains similar to "Test Performance" results, not the "Benchmark" option that does run at all your personal settings. For example, "Benchmark" runs always with Vsynch OFF independent if you have Vsybch enabled on settings whereas "Test Performance" will benchmark you performance taking into consideration all your settings. However, as you correctly estimated these gain in performance using the denuvoless version of the game is more prominent is older CPU bottlenecked systems and where CPU is the limiting factor and not the GPU. For example rig has an old i5-4690 quad-core CPU at 3.9 GHz and a Nvidia 2060 Super grpaphis card. I run the game at high settings and a 720p monitor resolution an 75 Hz vertical and Vsynch ON and with FSR v2.0 "performance" it gives me a 65 FPS average score in the "Test Performance: benchmark. The funny but also logical thing is when I set the FSR to higher "Quality" option instead of "performance" then I get a higher 69 FPS score! This is logical because my system is CPU bound and therefore any lowering of the graphics resolution will stress even more the CPU and lower even more performance. My advise to similar CPU bottle necked system owners is to pump up your graphics settings and set FSR no lower than the "Quality" You will see actually an increase in your game performance compared to the FSR "Balanced" or "performance" settings.
This needs to be looked at with 4090 to remove GPU bottleneck(probably) and see if there any effect on CPU side. Despite being a cancer they managed to optimize Denuvo pretty good. Now we need to see loading time comparison.
Hi, I report here that there are indeed large in-game performance gains similar to "Test Performance" results, not the "Benchmark" option that does run at all your personal settings. For example, "Benchmark" runs always with Vsynch OFF independent if you have Vsybch enabled on settings whereas "Test Performance" will benchmark you performance taking into consideration all your settings. However, as you correctly estimated these gain in performance using the denuvoless version of the game is more prominent is older CPU bottlenecked systems and where CPU is the limiting factor and not the GPU. For example rig has an old i5-4690 quad-core CPU at 3.9 GHz and a Nvidia 2060 Super grpaphis card. I run the game at high settings and a 720p monitor resolution an 75 Hz vertical and Vsynch ON and with FSR v2.0 "performance" it gives me a 65 FPS average score in the "Test Performance: benchmark. The funny but also logical thing is when I set the FSR to higher "Quality" option instead of "performance" then I get a higher 69 FPS score! This is logical because my system is CPU bound and therefore any lowering of the graphics resolution will stress even more the CPU and lower even more performance. My advise to similar CPU bottle necked system owners is to pump up your graphics settings and set FSR no lower than the "Quality" You will see actually an increase in your game performance compared to the FSR "Balanced" or "performance" settings. My conclusion is that denuvo is one way or the other a limiting factor on performance.
I noticed you changed your ram from the previous callisto protocol video from corsair 32 gb dual channel (im assuming u were using 2x16 GB kit) to teamgroup 32gb 8x4 kit. Just wondering if you had any problems with that config? Ive had kinda the same thing where I changed from corsair to team group as well and even the ripjaws one now cause they keep breaking. has this happened to you as well? its freakin annoying i dont know if its my motherboard thats the problem. ive changing every part of my rig since 2019 except for the motherboard and its driving me insane lmao
Finding a stable ram combo is equal to winning a lottery ticket xD, I see many people reporting multiple crash problems after changing their ram sticks. Luckily I don't have such a problem bro, I even turned xmp since the day I bought them. But yeah, for some unknown reason I can't overclock or undervolt my cpu anymore it starts giving me instability issues
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks lol all true bro ive got my 5700x undervolted right now to -20 in bios and RAM to 3533mhz cl18 instead of 3600mhz. pretty stable unless I change settings mid game in cyberpunk to like a higher res. then it crashes with no error message sometimes. also random crashes on ffxv. i hope its just the games problem but i never had these type of things happen on my 3700x 1070 build before. but yea it might be the games fault its unstable at max settings.
@@da3siiHow so clown? It has been prooved in RE Village and it's only logical that Denuvo VM hammers your IO and CPU by real time Encrypting / Decrypting contents. Clueless peasant!
This comparison is not accurate. GPU driver versions are different. Also, you are comparing launch version with latest version. You should've compared the latest Denuvo version which was released on Dec 20, 2023 (build 12514895).
Some flaws in the video, sorry for that. I don't have access to the latest denuvo release ( I think no one have ) as steamdb also removed the manifest of last denuvo version. Sorry if I made my audience upset🤧
Had no another option but it's not useless... gameplay performance is still very same even tho there was version difference. I expected denuvoless version to run much better
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks putting out pointless data is kinda pointless, what are you trying to show case here? That the game has improved from launch? This benchmark says Denuvo vs Denuvoless, which suggest a comparison of how Denuvo has impacted performance, however what your showing here is outdated data that does nothing.
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks no i would have sources other places because a difference like this would have spread like wildfire, thank fully most places that linked this also mentioned the comparison is pointless.
bro still no damn difference even between launch denuvo and latest version... except in the benchmarks ,, this game offering similar performance since launch thts what am seeing@@FilippoTarpini
*Guys sorry for my few mistakes😭
I don't have access to the latest last denuvo release ( I think no one have ) as steamdb also removed the manifest of last available denuvo version Therefore the only remaining option i had to make use of my old uploaded video of callisto protocol ( when denuvo was present in initial versions ) for left side comparison and right side am using latest steam denuvoless release. Please forgive if i hurt anyone, I'm not misleading anyone, just tried my best to make close to possible comparison between both.
no worries, I take the vid for what it is. The results would be exactly the same with any version.
@@HybOj here comes the accurate comment☺️🫡
pirates gonna pirate regardless, so making your game run worse to paying customers will never be a smart move
Facts bro 💯
Btw these both are original steam versions, one is new updated denuvoless version and other is old denuvo version 🫡
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Making your game worse with features like denuvo makes people want to pirate. If the legit copy ran flawlessly and it didn’t have trash monetization practices (in game shop for single player games), many people wouldn’t pirate. Besides poor people who also deserve to play.
Fact tho
the benchmark really ran much faster, ingame not so much. Was thinking why, and I think its because the ingame is GPU bottlenecked. So the CPU optimization caused by removal of denuvo, cant be seen. Would be interresting to test it in some very low resolution, so GPU bottleneck is removed. Thanks for a comparison. The results are indeed strange to me :)
Hi it's kinda strange for me as well, benchmarks have a much bigger performance gap. Which the gameplay doesn't. Talking about low resolution, my 5700x will cry 😂 this game is weird all I can say, check my earlier ( cracked vs original comparison video ) both are denuvoless versions ( one is repack and other is steam) and steam version giving better performance and again benchmark is opposite lmao .. btw thanks for the comment. I wasted tons of GB to download and test 3 versions XD
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks Hi, I report here that there are indeed large in-game performance gains similar to "Test Performance" results, not the "Benchmark" option that does run at all your personal settings. For example, "Benchmark" runs always with Vsynch OFF independent if you have Vsybch enabled on settings whereas "Test Performance" will benchmark you performance taking into consideration all your settings.
However, as you correctly estimated these gain in performance using the denuvoless version of the game is more prominent is older CPU bottlenecked systems and where CPU is the limiting factor and not the GPU. For example rig has an old i5-4690 quad-core CPU at 3.9 GHz and a Nvidia 2060 Super grpaphis card. I run the game at high settings and a 720p monitor resolution an 75 Hz vertical and Vsynch ON and with FSR v2.0 "performance" it gives me a 65 FPS average score in the "Test Performance: benchmark. The funny but also logical thing is when I set the FSR to higher "Quality" option instead of "performance" then I get a higher 69 FPS score! This is logical because my system is CPU bound and therefore any lowering of the graphics resolution will stress even more the CPU and lower even more performance.
My advise to similar CPU bottle necked system owners is to pump up your graphics settings and set FSR no lower than the "Quality" You will see actually an increase in your game performance compared to the FSR "Balanced" or "performance" settings.
Bro that is some golden information, thank you so much !@@Markoul11
This needs to be looked at with 4090 to remove GPU bottleneck(probably) and see if there any effect on CPU side. Despite being a cancer they managed to optimize Denuvo pretty good. Now we need to see loading time comparison.
Waiting for someone rich to test with their 4090 😂 loading time is almost very very same bro
Hi, I report here that there are indeed large in-game performance gains similar to "Test Performance" results, not the "Benchmark" option that does run at all your personal settings. For example, "Benchmark" runs always with Vsynch OFF independent if you have Vsybch enabled on settings whereas "Test Performance" will benchmark you performance taking into consideration all your settings.
However, as you correctly estimated these gain in performance using the denuvoless version of the game is more prominent is older CPU bottlenecked systems and where CPU is the limiting factor and not the GPU. For example rig has an old i5-4690 quad-core CPU at 3.9 GHz and a Nvidia 2060 Super grpaphis card. I run the game at high settings and a 720p monitor resolution an 75 Hz vertical and Vsynch ON and with FSR v2.0 "performance" it gives me a 65 FPS average score in the "Test Performance: benchmark. The funny but also logical thing is when I set the FSR to higher "Quality" option instead of "performance" then I get a higher 69 FPS score! This is logical because my system is CPU bound and therefore any lowering of the graphics resolution will stress even more the CPU and lower even more performance.
My advise to similar CPU bottle necked system owners is to pump up your graphics settings and set FSR no lower than the "Quality" You will see actually an increase in your game performance compared to the FSR "Balanced" or "performance" settings.
My conclusion is that denuvo is one way or the other a limiting factor on performance.
That's some golden information! Thank you so much bro 🫡
Temp difference is massive too. Drmless would be great on handhelds
this is why dragons dogma 2 runs like poop
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As expected. Denuvo eats ~20 fps or more. Depending on the scene.
Thanks for the effort.
whats the point of comparing launch version
This is the only option I have, sorry. There is absolutely no other way to get back the days before denuvo version. Or maybe I don't know how to do
What this proves to me is, that the performance was shit at release and it did not change one bit whole year later :D
Yes bro🤧🫡😅
I noticed you changed your ram from the previous callisto protocol video from corsair 32 gb dual channel (im assuming u were using 2x16 GB kit) to teamgroup 32gb 8x4 kit. Just wondering if you had any problems with that config? Ive had kinda the same thing where I changed from corsair to team group as well and even the ripjaws one now cause they keep breaking. has this happened to you as well? its freakin annoying i dont know if its my motherboard thats the problem. ive changing every part of my rig since 2019 except for the motherboard and its driving me insane lmao
Finding a stable ram combo is equal to winning a lottery ticket xD, I see many people reporting multiple crash problems after changing their ram sticks. Luckily I don't have such a problem bro, I even turned xmp since the day I bought them. But yeah, for some unknown reason I can't overclock or undervolt my cpu anymore it starts giving me instability issues
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks lol all true bro ive got my 5700x undervolted right now to -20 in bios and RAM to 3533mhz cl18 instead of 3600mhz. pretty stable unless I change settings mid game in cyberpunk to like a higher res. then it crashes with no error message sometimes. also random crashes on ffxv. i hope its just the games problem but i never had these type of things happen on my 3700x 1070 build before. but yea it might be the games fault its unstable at max settings.
Yeh bro
@@joshmg1494 if a game is crashing due to increased load, your overclock is not stable. Run some tests. RAM instability can take a while to manifest.
+1
This should be proof that DENUVO destroys performance! Mortal Kombat 1 has terrible performance dur to DENUVO. Every sheep must boycott them!
+1
liar
@@da3siiHow so clown? It has been prooved in RE Village and it's only logical that Denuvo VM hammers your IO and CPU by real time Encrypting / Decrypting contents. Clueless peasant!
This comparison is not accurate. GPU driver versions are different. Also, you are comparing launch version with latest version. You should've compared the latest Denuvo version which was released on Dec 20, 2023 (build 12514895).
Some flaws in the video, sorry for that. I don't have access to the latest denuvo release ( I think no one have ) as steamdb also removed the manifest of last denuvo version. Sorry if I made my audience upset🤧
Now compare with Last version with Denvuo
Can't go back to the previous version which included denuvo, reason is steam won't allow me to do that 🥲
You should not have updated until you made the test.
I made mistake 🤧🤧
Not really useful academically since it's comparing to the launch version and not the latest version before denuvo.
Pinned comment bro🤧😔
comparing launch version is kinda useless.
Had no another option but it's not useless... gameplay performance is still very same even tho there was version difference. I expected denuvoless version to run much better
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks putting out pointless data is kinda pointless, what are you trying to show case here? That the game has improved from launch? This benchmark says Denuvo vs Denuvoless, which suggest a comparison of how Denuvo has impacted performance, however what your showing here is outdated data that does nothing.
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@@ZomgZomg007 at least I didn't lie bro😔🤧 if I didn't mentioned the launch version then no one would have scolded me😔
@@gtxryzenbenchmarks no i would have sources other places because a difference like this would have spread like wildfire, thank fully most places that linked this also mentioned the comparison is pointless.
The title is misleading. It doesn't use the latest denuvo version for comparison, so the results are meaningless.
Not meaningless bro, game has denuvo since start you know that
There is no change in the denuvo version, once a denuvo always a denuvo 😂😂
What? The launch game version isn't as optimized as the last denuvo version.
bro still no damn difference even between launch denuvo and latest version... except in the benchmarks ,, this game offering similar performance since launch thts what am seeing@@FilippoTarpini
The game is still trash with or without denuvo
XD
No
😏 we got to see how it is hehe finally 😢
Temp difference is massive too. Drmless would be great on handhelds