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Happy thanksgiving. Usually I am very critical of the police but in this case, I thought the officer in question did a perfectly adequate job. The elderly women certainly gave me the impression she was in no state to be allowed to drive. The son started with his treats quite soon into the interaction and I thought the officer handled that quite well. The choice to release the elderly woman to the son I also think is perfectly reasonable and during the whole interaction with mother and son, I thought the officer was as respectful and patient as could reasonably be expected. I find no fault in his actions and demeanor so I would give an A. If the elderly woman indeed was neither chemically or physically impaired than she seemed extremely intentionally uncooperative.
@@daviddevries8242 Seems to be a language barrier too.. Her English was not very good.. He took that as being uncooperative... She is an 80 year old stroke victim.. No way she going to pass any of their tests...
I don't doubt the gentleman's story about being threatened with arrest for trying to file a complaint. It's not unusual for a citizen that attempts that to end up getting charged with ridiculous things like disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct, trespassing, public intoxication etc. Those charges could be dismissed later but the citizen will still have to post bail, hire an attorney and the incident will likely generate a record of arrest which can make it difficult to work in certain fields 💰👎
My elderly mother locked her keys in her car at the mall. The police were called. The doors were not locked and never were. They recognized her “impairment”. The cop drove her home and called us. We got to her house and found the fully equipped young cop sitting next to my mothers bed in a rocking chair waiting for us to relieve him. We asked him what can we do? She obviously should no longer be driving. He said he would take care of it. He filed the paperwork and that was her last day driving.
I'm sorry that your mom is now reliant on others to get around. Its independence and freedom that is something people don't want to give up. And I can't blame them. I hope she's doing okay and I know it can't be easy to be the one to tell her that she can't drive anymore. Probably heartbreaking. Bewell ❤️
Without the victim's car there, he really couldn't accuse her of having hit it. That must've been scary for her to have a cop pull up and start making demands and accusations. I'm surprised she wasn't crying. When an old person says they're tired, you don't demand them to submit to physically challenging tests.
I'm surprised that once her son said she had a stroke that was never considered as a possible source of the impairment. It seems clear to me that her driver's license should be revoked. But she does not belong in a cell.
Yeah I think our legal system needs a 3rd option here. A way for police to take her license but release her until a court or DMV can evaluate her ability to drive. I do agree the officer was correct in wanting to get her off the street tho. We give the elderly way too much latitude in driving
I was once arrested for failing a field sobriety test when i was parked at a rest area on my way home from work. Once i was taken to the station and administered the intoxilizer i blew a 0.0. At which time the cop finally listened to me when i said i was severly dehydrated, dizzy, and confussed because i had been working a 12 hour shift in 110 degree weather all day. When i started feeling dizzy i pulled over and parked after 10 to 30 minutes is when i encountered a sheriff. I was released, to go pay a towing and storage fee for my car. Field sobriety is used as a weapon more often than people think.
Yes, and there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. Like i said they use stuff like this as a weapon against us. It recently happened to a friend's dad in the same town when he criticized the police chief in a town meeting.
A mental evaluation by EMS is of little value in 99% of situations. They ask shit like, "how many quarters make a dollar?" "What year is it?" "Who is the president?"
@@arlandsr3385 while those questions CAN give insight into a persons level of sobriety, they are used to determine the persons mental orientation. It's called A&O - alert and oriented. There's 4 levels. Person- do they know who they are? Place-do they know where they are? Time-do they know the date? The final is situation. EMS typically only cares if they are oriented to three of those. Which is stupid because I dealt with a man the other day who knew what day it was, he knew his name, and he knew where he was. BUT he didn't know that he was completely bare assed in the middle of a park and he didn't know he was covered in his own shit. There was also no indication that he was intoxicated. So CLEARLY this man had some sort of mental episode occurring.
My grandmother, who I considered my very best friend, ended go with dementia. My mom and uncle didn’t want to have to be the ones to take her driving Privileges away, so I had to do it, I was in my early 20’s at the time. But it was terrifying knowing she could hurt herself or someone else. Anytime she needed to go somewhere I made sure I went with her, and “begged” her to let me drive: I told her I needed her input on if I was a good driver or not. This way it wasn’t a fight, and she didn’t know her driving privileges were taken away. She also got to “rate my driving” which gave her a sense of control over the situation. I miss my granny so much 😢
As I'm reading through the comments it hits me, how many of us have similar stories, and how little consideration is given to our elderly, your story warmed yet broke my heart. I fully believe that there comes a point in most people's lives when driving is a job better passed to someone more capable, a realization I'm dealing with now, after recently spending a few weeks with my Dad for the first time, post Covid. Although he's not that old (72) and is an extremely well - educated and intelligent man with no signs of slowing intellectually, several years of untreated AFIB, seems to have somehow damaged his ability to concentrate and react while driving. For example, slowing to 60kms/hr (limit 110kms/hr)on the highway simply because he saw a car approaching to merge into his lane, or getting sidetracked by a pedestrian and almost running a red light. My point, you took an incredibly brave position with your Grandmother, when those responsible were unable to make the decision, and your method of turning your outings into a mutually gratifying experience is something you should share with great pride, those memories with her, and receiving your regular driving reports, will be a fond memory and funny story you can cherish for a lifetime. Thank you for sharing it with us, I hope that I am able to approach this transition with my Dad, with half the class you had at such a young age!
Yeah with my mother someone had to be with her 24/7. Anything thing dangerous you could think of she would do it. Like turning on the stove and forgetting how to use a lighter and spending 3 min with the gas running. She wanted to help but everything she did was terrifying.
I give the Doctors office an F for not holding her and calling her son to come and pick her up to possibly take her to the ER. She could have been having a medical condition. Also the doctor can take away her license as well by sending a letter to the state DMV. If anything the son should go after the doctor for medical neglect and find her a new doctor.
Even if someone is impaired I don't think you can physically hold them in a place against their will. That's false imprisonment. Unless you can show me a law or statute that says you can do that, probably not a smart idea. I'm not talking about the morality, I think morally that would be a smart thing. But morals and the law don't always perfectly overlap
@@richardpowell4281you don't have to hold her against her will though. The Dr could have easily just taken an extra long time getting her appointment wrapped up and then bam the son is there and can take it from there. She would have no idea that he was holding her there. He could have easily gone and looked at her emergency contact info that all Drs offices ask and have on file in order to get her son or a different family members phone number. It would be whomever she put as an emergency contact.
If the Dr can be implicated, then so can the son. She lives with him, so he knows her condition and that she should not drive. She struck a vehicle and couldn't even put it in park, yet got away scot free
For once I think this officer handle things as he should not knowing if she had a medical condition or not it was his duty to make sure she was okay and other people were safe out on the road but thank God her son showed up and things worked out for the better I hope this woman gets the help that she needs but she definitely should not be driving and kudos to the police officer😅❤
😮why didn’t her doctor’s office step in? You would think that they would know if she was impaired or acting erratically because of a medical issue. They could have called someone to come pick her up. That’s irresponsible and weird to let her just leave like that.
@kimhayden4822 but we don't know if they tried to stop her. Chances are they told her not to drive but she refused. The Dr's office is not authorized to restrain her from leaving if she insists. They did the right thing by calling the police to step in to assess her.
My 74 year old mother, never had a ticket in her life, had 2 accidents in one day from dementia. I had to take her keys away. It was a hard and sad day.
As a stroke survivor, illnesses such as UTIs can cause the symptoms of the stroke to get worse. So if she had any impairment from her stroke, a simple infection could cause cognitive difficulties.
Yes very much true but you are asking too much for a simple cop. He may or may not be an educated cop and that is the chance departments take hiring someone with limited education or learning abilities and you give them authority over us
@@IamSCS it's usually my 1st symptom too. Believe it or not, this can happen with anyone. Idk why it isn't common knowledge. I guess people don't want to talk about it but it's kinda vital information.
@@jbroberts8807- Even if police determine that a driver is not under the influence of any chemical, but may be sick, may have suffered a stroke, is sleepy, they have authority to detain the person until a friend or relative can come drive them home, pick them up, remove the vehicle or park it in a safe place until it can be retrieved - with permission of any concerned private property owner or tenant.
I only got just shy of 50 years on my hips and knees.. shoe moves better than me ..punk ass kid she/him cop... treated that lady like she some common ass thug
@@KitchenOne-California The beginning signs of dementia is not like flicking on a light switch. It can take weeks to month before family can relize that something in wrong. In the early stage it comes and go
Exactly. They have very good coherent cognitive abilities then mins later...oblivious to surroundings. Then back to normal. In the beginning, families may not detect it if symptoms aren't showing consistently in front of them. I'm appalled this officer refused to consider the age and possible medical issue arising and calling for an ambulance. A medical professional. Smh this was absurd imo.
Glad they cuffed her. Granny probably would've done a double backflip over the cops head and snapped a neck or two with her elite ninja skills otherwise.
@@TomBrooklyn well it shouldn't be .she is an 80 year old lady who has suffered a stroke and had hip surgery .what threat did she pose to him or herself? He humiliated her I felt shame for him to behave this way, awful people skills.lets face it she wasn't going to attack him or run away she could barely walk.
I felt the same way. Here in Colorado the police often exercise discretion to cuff a person in the front rather than in the back based on how combative the person is. Age is also a consideration. With age comes stiffness and being cuffed in the rear is difficult. And of course, the level of the threat is a consideration. He must have felt she did have elite ninja skills. The cop is a jerk. He should hope he never gets this old otherwise he might just find out how hard it is.
@@farleyxwilbur655 Yes at the very least at the front as she was not showing any violent tendencies as this would put her at less risk of being harmed. However I believe he handcuffed her just because he did not have enough patience with an elderly person. Not an admirable reason.
The Policeman or her son should have called the Paramedics to take her to the hospital for further evaluation. She was acting like she was disorientated.
Sadly when you only teach an officer to see drug/alcohol impairment, they only see drug/alcohol impairment. I had a very disoriented elderly man park in our fire dept lot around 2am. Clearly he was unable to drive and we had to call law enforcement. The deputy who arrived was also a paramedic. He was the most professional deputy who could’ve responded. Not once did he do any sort of drug/alcohol tests. He tried contacting the wife and other family members. He wound up driving the man to a local hotel and arranged for the son the pick up the man in the AM. Not all cops are able to rise above basic training and common sense.
I would say most of her "non-compliance" is due to her trying to comply and agree with the officer, but the language barrier got in the way. When her was asking "have you been in an accident today?". She was hearing "have you ever been in an accident?" That's why she kept answering " No, never, not for 43 years!". I am glad he ultimately made the right call and didn't take her to jail.
Before big pharma came into every household many elderly drove. This should become a poster for driving licences, especially now that psychotropic drug's are repurposed for everything, pain, depression.
Coraleigh May-Dewitt blood pressure meds doesn’t cause people to not be allowed to drive. The cops jumped on it when he was trying to prevent the next stroke in jail. The fact that she had a stroke before proved the fst was unreliable because brain injuries cause the same failure while completely sober and able to drive
I’ve failed a field sobriety test before despite being sober. I have a terrible balance, my eyes are sensitive to the light, among other things. I requested a breathalyzer and was let go. The field sobriety test needs to be…reworked to say the least.
I agree... I PASSED a field sobriety test and STILL got arrested and put in jail for FIVE DAYS (got pulled over on a Saturday night and Monday was a federal holiday, so Saturday, Sunday and Monday "didn't count") I was released Thursday night, and left with a $1,000 bill to get my car out of an impound lot... I almost lost my job, my car, and my place of living. Why? Because the officer said I was "slurring my speech."
I've seen a college football player. Active. Was told he had failed. When he was sober. Designed to fail for sure. Better off just to refure them. Every cop that gets stopped for DUI always refuses them. From what I've seen
Me too. I was a traveling nurse in another state in the dead of winter when I became quite ill with a kidney infection. On my way to Walmart to pick up my prescriptions, I was stopped by an officer. As a wounded Veteran, I had surgery on my left foot which prevents me from balancing properly. Due to my infection, I also was sweating & looked 'sick'. Just a perfect storm of circumstances. I failed the sobriety test because I couldn't balance properly and was taken to the police station. Later, a DRE officer examined me and asked me what was going on. I showed him my prescriptions, explained my service-connected injuries, and passed his exam with flying colors. He left the room and I could hear him screaming at the officer who pulled me over. To this day I can't stand that guy who arrested me. Thankfully, the charges were dismissed, too! I would NEVER go to that state for another assignment. Never again.
I could be drunk and ace the tests. Been tipsy never full on drunk but i think my European biology would kick into high gear. Also her name is “Natalia” (Наталия) and her beautiful thick accent is a dead give away that there may be a slight translation delay.
I just said this to my 15 year old daughter the other day. I am Clumsy have no hand eye feet coordination. I think I’d be able to look at something without moving my head but who knows! The thought of getting tested gives me so much anxiety and I don’t drink!
You don't have to submit to the tests, for this exact reason. Any evidence they gather can and will be used AGAINST YOU, it will not be used FOR YOU. Never submit to field sobriety tests.
There isn't really a pass or fail, It's just a procedure that the city attorney or prosecutor requires to or prefers to have completed to charge with DUI. It just allows the officer to say that they performed their "tests" to determine that they're intoxicated. It doesn't matter how you do, if you're taking the test you are going to jail. You could be absolutely sober and you are going to "fail" the "test". It's best to not participate in the tests and refuse a breathalyzer. They will have zero evidence of any intoxication and it will most often be dropped in court, or never charged after a few days. You will lose your license for a year, but you will save $10,000 and a lot of time, you are going to be suspended for 90 days anyways.
My father-in-law had a stroke and wrecked his truck. He was somewhat incoherent when the cops arrived. But there were no sobriety tests- they took him to the hospital to have doctors check him out. He had no physical injuries but he didn’t smell like booze so they got him the help he needed- not a jail cell. And they called my wife to let us know what happened.
What a dumb cop. Robot. Common sense should have kicked in before giving her a sobriety test that he didn't ask her if she was willing to do. He just started instructing her to do those movements.
@@sheri4673 Not really... I am pro cops... but handcuffing an old lady without having the evidence that she is not allowed to drive is purely tyrany...
@esther fisher hitting the car wasn't really the issue, they were concerned about her ability to be able to drive safely. Allowing her to drive in an impaired state is a danger to herself and others. The handcuffs were completely unnecessary and what annoyed me most about this interaction, he could have simply got her to sit in the back of the squad car it's not like she was a flight or fight risk
@esther fisher I think that the officer had reasonable suspicion to consider that she may have been under some form of influence and initially opting to perform the field test was not really unreasonable. Her age alone shouldn't excuse her if she was not in a state to drive, especially given her denial of being on any medication and the multiple reports of concern that had been raised. So until the family member turned up he didn't really have another option. I'm not clear what lead the family member to turn up, but think the final outcome of her being released into his care was the right call. As I said my main fault with the officer was the use of restraints for an older more fragile member of society who had shown no threatening behavior and is obviously not a risk. I have an elderly mother who still drives, but is not 100% stable on her feet these days, she goes out of her way to make sure she uses her hands for balance as she has had a couple of falls previously and the consequences of a fall at that age can be fairly major.
Wow you have it all figured out don’t you! Impaired is impaired she could have easily went to jail for this. Educate yourself before you make ignorant come Chloe
It doesn't really matter whether the issue is from age or drunkenness though, if it impairs their thought process, it can cause crashes. And whether it was due to age or any other reason, the crash isn't any less dangerous. With all this said, the balance test isn't a good test for driving as you can drive competently without being able to balance, and elderly can struggle to walk etc. The reason I'd be worried about her is because of the pen test, if she couldn't even focus on the pen, how is she meant to focus on the pedestrian crossing the road, and if she isn't able to follow commands around parking the car, it's unlikely she has the reaction speed / dexterity to stop the vehicle before a crash. I think the best option would've been to take her home in the cop car, suspend her license in a way where she needs to do another test to show she is still capable of driving but can still get it back. This would help the son to feel secure because she isn't being imprisoned for being old (and potentially risking her own life), and it would help the cops because she isn't a risk on the road. (For all we know, she could've driven off after they left when the son bent to whatever she said.)
@@drumsticknuggets5123 I can see your point, it's a problem that the sobriety tests are ineffective for testing people with balancing problems. Since being unable to balance isn't a problem when driving (obviously), the test should be outside of these conditions to check for more real signs like the inability to understand and react to simple / medium scenarios and the ability to focus on what's occurring. The problem is that the woman in this video has clearly shown in both the communication beforehand that she was probably a hazard on the road as she didn't seem aware of what the officer was saying to her and wasn't able to focus on the pen test. This is all the officer had to go on, so it was definitely the right call to get her off the road. I also don't think releasing her to the son is a good idea because he seems to "suck up" to his mother and he might let her drive as soon as the police leave. This could cause a crash because (I don't think) she was fit to drive from what the video showed. In my opinion, the best solution would be to take her home (not to the police station), suspend her license until she has another driving test to check if she's still fit to drive (As this brings a more expert view on her current fitness instead of a policeman / son who has a less complete view). This both protects the mother from health risks in the police station and being overstressed causing potential health problems AND it reduces the danger on the road as we aren't letting a person who appears to be unfit to continue driving around.
Like the disastrous and unconstitutional "War On Drugs", cops should have nothing to do with medical problems. Tell me, cop, what is your "medical" opinion of this lady?
This is unconscionable, the level of disrespect for elders in America is ridiculous! Leave this poor elderly woman alone!!! The way he's talking to her is just unnecessary! Speak in a gentle voice to the elderly. There's no need to speak in such an intimidating way! I mean would you talk to your grandmother like that?!!! And she clearly didn't need to be threatened by saying she was going to be cuffed and taken to jail. I mean c'mon people! Cuffed?!!! Just ridiculous! If an older person says "I'm tired"... let them sit down for a moment to collect themselves and then begin again! That officer has no heart. She is clearly stressed. What is wrong with these people?!!!
Agreed... many of our elders are treated poorly and no longer seen as having any value because they are "old". Even the age at which someone is deemed old and over. Is it 50, 55, 65, 80...years-old? Many, not all, but many have so much they can teach us. Living history books!! This poor woman told him at the beginning that she had, had surgery on both her hips and had a balance issue...which was why she was leaning on her car for support. He seemlybfogot or just wasn't listening. This cop is an a-hole. He accuses her of playing games with him. Don't resist. He accuses her of trying to kick him. He accused her of refusing to participate with the test she was asked to perform. Instead of taking her age into account...he goes right to her being "drunk." The son didn't say that he knew for a fact that her medicine was causing an impairment. He now thinks that maybe it is the medicine. The doctor's office staff should have called the son...not straight to the police in this case. The officer could have called her son too. The charges aganist her were for going to be for being drunk. I agree that the officers need training and refresher courses in dealing with "elder policing" Seriously, they work where a large section of the population is elderly. Also, as demonstrated here a population of people that grew up in other countries and with different culture and social norms. Yeah, I know...they are here now and need to adapt to the United States culture and norms. There may be some that won't, but for those that do..adapting, especially older folks, may take a longer time period than it would be for younger generations.
Something that wasn't mentioned was that the research also stated when it came to field sobriety test. Also stated that people over a certain age that the accuracy falls off greatly and should not be preformed on senior citizens
@FrankieCallahan-nv3sy True, but they do not care and they will fail sober people based on field sobriety. You are at minimum, going to have your day ruined and have to go to the station If you refuse the field sobriety, you will still need to go to the station... If they deem you DUI... If you take a breathalyzer and pass, they can act like you are on drugs This can happen to anybody and does
In this particular case, the YOUNG Officer could have well served this citizen and himself by calling medical to evaluate the PATIENT as a skilled prudent officer would. As a trained officer in DUI investigation, this should have been evident that this was not a typically presented DUI and could have in fact been a life threatening event.
I completely agree. He was a total dick, she obviously had something going on and medical would have been a better call. Likely the same outcome too - she'd be off the road, but with the added benefit of better publicity for himself and his department. I mean come on, show people that you care about them.
I was given a field sobriety after I dodged a large animal and went off the road and into a ditch partly filled with mosquitoes. I hadn’t had a drink in probably over a month, so that wasn’t the issue. However, the trooper “smelled something” and I got the test. I’m over 60 now. The test wasn’t easy (yes, it’s hell getting old). He stopped it part way through and said I was fine. The smell, it turned out, was bug spray. As far as this incident, there’s little doubt that the deputy was going to take the elderly driver to the slammer until his supervisor, a cooler head, said to send her home with her son. The initial reason for the stop turned out to be bogus. No crime was committed. So what happened after was questionable. Granted, the elderly woman needed a medical evaluation, not jail.
From what I've seen and experienced myself, many, many cops are liars. They say that they smell alcohol anytime they think a person would have been drinking. They did that with a twenty-year- old athlete who didn't drink at all. He used that as an excuse, as well as a bunch of other lies that weren't true like fumbling with his registration. That one's on this channel. Then when he blew 0.0, the cop switched to saying that he could be on drugs. Well the smell of alcohol is quite different from the smell of any drug. I have personally experienced cops lying for their own benefit. We've also seen it many times on this channel.
Too tired to complete field sobriety test means way too tired to drive. I don’t care if she’s too tired either, I care that she’s prevented from endangering others.
But for real- who cares that some old woman is tired? She acted like that was a valid excuse for not doing the field sobriety tests. Sorry, but that’s not how it works. Plus her son is a POS, threatening a police officer that was just doing his job.
@@pinnsvein Right, but there are other ways to deal with that. Throwing an 80 year old lady in handcuffs and in jail because she's too dazed by her medicine to drive is just barbaric.
There are a large number of senior citizens living in Florida and it's turning into one big nursing home and highways are the hallways. I can see where conducting a field sobriety test in Florida would be a nightmare. She appears to be unfit to drive but her son was there to take her home. She needs to be evaluated to see if she should even have a driver's license.
@@wvrjl I doubt this woman was jailed. The handcuffs were likely used to try, and scare her to not drive until the paperwork was summitted to assess, and subsequently take her license away (for both Mom, and son!). The denial, and arrogance were significant, Sherrey
@Yes Sir! Well I'm sorry that you want to live in a world where officers abuse their powers because THEY think she's unfit to drive, but most of the rest of us do not.
@Yes Sir! You've missed my point entirely. Of course if she is unfit to drive she shouldn't be driving. However, it isn't the officers duty to judge whether or not she is fit to drive in general, but to determine whether he reasonably believes that she is a danger to herself or others at that point in time. "Hitting something last week, and maybe hitting something today (we're not sure because there's no evidence or witnesses), but she's old and difficult to communicate with" is not sufficient evidence of that. She would need to undergo a medical evaluation in order to determine if she is fit to drive. She did, and she passed. Running the same sobriety test over and over again accomplishes nothing, but it proves that the officer WANTED to find a reason to arrest her. It's a very common and underhanded tactic. If you're fine with having the police hassle you because they want something, more power to you, but we're fighting hard right this very second to combat this type of "vigilant" policing. Especially the kind where trying to file official complaints results in threats of arrest.
@@JK-ko6en the issue is not whether she is fit to drive MOST of the time, the issue is whether or not she was impaired at the time of the incident. If you watched the video, it's hard to believe she was not impaired. She was involved in an accident and her son even stated she takes numerous medications.
some drugs taken can cause the effects of a DUI, for example, sleeping medication can cause Burning or tingling in the hands, arms, feet, or legs Changes in appetite Constipation Diarrhea Difficulty keeping balance Dizziness Daytime drowsiness Dry mouth or throat Gas Headache Heartburn Impairment the next day Mental slowing or problems with attention or memory Stomach pain or tenderness Uncontrollable shaking of a part of the body Unusual dreams Weakness also if you have an allergic reaction this can happen Blurred vision or any other problems with your sight Chest pain Difficulty breathing or swallowing Feeling that the throat is closing Hives Hoarseness Itching Nausea Pounding heartbeat Rash Shortness of breath Swelling of the eyes, face, lips, tongue, or throat Vomiting
You were not there and thus cannot know her condition nor did you examine her as you obviously are not a physician. What you believe has no bearing on anything and you are unclear in your understanding of what "DUI" means. The officer here could easily have written her up on DWAI and also confiscated her drivers license if she lived in the state I reside. She then would have to appear in court later and also would have to post bail to be released from custody. Her son was very insolent and irresponsible and the officer was patient in the situation. I am not a fan of police and one bad cop on a force makes all others look bad, the "blue wall of silence" we hear about is a weakness and criminal. Do you think she was driving with ability impaired? Would you have ridden in her car that day or allowed your child to ride in her vehicle at the time depicted here? Her ability to drive a 2 ton vehicle was impaired as was her ability to comprehend what she was being told or to speak with cognitive thought. The poll on public understanding police work is low and by design. Society is fed propaganda about police work which is not dangerous and police have immunities that keeps them from prosecution for crimes you would do hard time for. I live in a city of a half million people. In 160 years 13 officers have died on shift, 6 of those were not from crime but accidents of their own fault, 6 were committed by criminals and one was an officer shot to death and no suspects were ever known or found so the truth will never be known. How many loggers die each year? Construction workers? How much do they make a year and do they get benefits? Police make about $100,000 a year, have ALL benefits and early retirement with partial pay and keep benefits for life. They can pursue another career without losing their police pension and still collect Social Security as well. You have heard them say "low pay police work" but that is just propaganda. Oh yeah, they get overtime as well plus are rarely challenged while testifying in court which they refer to as "testilying".
@@cravinbob Blood Pressure meds can cause confusion, her son was being a dick, and like the cop said, although I hate to say it he was right, "Why are you letting her drive?" She certainly looked confused, and she's 80 years old. Cop was being a dick with the "Don't resist!" BS.
@@settheshallow8913 Totally. Is that how cops are taught to treat elderly folks? Since when was it ok to treat everyone a dangerous criminal? Handcuffs?
@@grandpied she failed a dui test slurred he words and didn't follow basic commands the cop has every right to arrest her until the investigation is over and charge her with dui and no even if she is 80 you don't get away with driving went you can't
@@grandpied she wasn't asked to sing and dance she was asked to park the car very simple follow a own my 92 year grandpa can do that and walk in a straight line my grandpa can do that as well she also lied to the cops saying she doesn't take meds I don't care if your 18 or 80 you don't get let free of a dui
Cop is a prick. What would he do if his mother or grandmother was treated like that? He's a piece of shit. An order following robot-puppet with no morals.
They should’ve called in a DRE, that’s what I am. It’s a certified expert in non-alcohol related intoxication and would’ve made the call. Also, SFSTs are ineligible for people over the age of 65. They’re disqualified for this very reason. Tbh, I think you gave this officer a higher grade than he deserves…I’d never treat someone of that age in that manner ever. It was very disrespectful imo. The whole situation was bad for everyone.
How is a Digital Rectal Exam going to possibly help this woman in this situation? I mean, if they needed your help, it would have been before she left the doctors office and not when she was already driving the car. Of course they wouldn't call you at that point, it would be silly. And violate her privacy to boot.
@Yes Sir! .. With all due respect, look at the likes on my comment. And then.., there's you. I think that sums it up. Any further engagement will be considered harassment, according to TH-cam's standards. Have a wonderful day. ✌
@@ehoffart529 I agree 100%. What I meant by saying "she's 80 years old " is she is not strong enough to be standing around. Here in the UK we don't subscribe to sobriety tests, we would be breathalysed. Following on from that, a blood test would be required. In this instance doing both of these would have given clarity, eliminated confusion and to any discomfort. In my very humble opinion, I would suggest that from the age of 75 years (and then every 5 years) people ought to have to take a road test. Failure to pass or to agree to have the test would result in being disqualified. I say this because the older generation, of which I am near, have slower reflexes, appear to take more medications and can, sometimes, drive dangerously. I would be happy to re-sit my driving test. It would instil confidence to other road users and satisfy my own questions as to whether I am safe to drive. I am so very, very sorry for your dad and your family. Nobody should have to suffer the way you all have.
To do blood tests, a person has to be taken into custody. Blood (and urine) tests typically do not come back the same day. She ws not actually suspected of being drunk, so what would a Breathalyzer have clarified?
What boggles my mind is that this woman has a hx of stroke/TIA and EMS wasn't contacted for this interaction. Slurred speech, cognative impairment, and her hx with having a stroke alone would have me calling for a medical eval straight away.
Wade Hoover exactly. And even if the person drove off without knowing they got hit. Why wouldn’t the person that called the cops, inform the victim their car was hit
She has a cane, shes holding it tight with her right hand, should I pull my gun to make sure that she drops it? *Supervisor Yes make sure she removes the deadly stick that can take care of a unit of police officers that are armed with 9mm guns, we are sending a SWAT team right now.
Literally a week ago, an elderly woman turned into my lane and despite me honking to alert her I was there she continued to drive. I literally had to pull a Nascar esque move to avoid her crashing into my 1 year olds seat. This woman obviously doesn't need to be driving even if she's not impaired by anything. It's clear it's time to download uber.
She is impaired by age. Impairment should not depend on substances at all. Impairment depends on real time performance. Every individual is different and each metabolizes and reacts differently to substances. Some people are more impaired just by their lack of general ability, motivation, or discipline. Every person who is impaired for any reason should be required to take a driver training program and retake their license exam. So there is no double standard for someone who is young, sober, and still entirely incompetent. They deserve second chances; Not the right to endanger others. I think the government should start at age 65 automatically requiring drivers to take a license renewal test each year and every 6 months over 70. Likewise anyone demonstrating any level of impairment or incompetence should be subjected to the same scrutiny for a probation period of three years. That way we won't be relying on incompetent families, or individuals, to take away driving rights voluntarily. If insurance companies were smart that's what they would require in their policy. I'll support and voluntarily provide for anyone who is unable to provide for themselves. Provided they ask and their needs are made apparent. I won't trust the judgement of any individual with dementia or any other form of delusional thinking. Because their right to exist does not exceed the lives of animals, children, and other innocent bystanders that they are blindly putting at risk. Their intention could be as subtle as their own shadow. It's not relevant.
Just because an elderly lady cut you off doesn't mean this lady can't drive, doesn't make sense, your traumatized. Someone always wants to take someone freedom from them smh. her not being able to stand long has nothing to do with her driving abilities, they don't teach you how to walk the line when you get you're license.
@@josephfrechette9916 This is what I wondered, too, given the apparent lack of physical evidence. And had she just hit another car with that light, the damage would probably be on the driver's side, where the owner would most likely notice it before driving away. Someone saw two cars with minor damage and an elderly person, and decided they were ace sleuths.
In my experience with the elderly as a nurse they don’t usually register how impaired they are. Also the amount of impairment can vary day to day and even through out the day which can make it more difficult to determine when the time has come to take away the keys. If the elderly person’s ability fluctuates throughout the day and their family doesn’t live with them they might not notice how bad it is because they seem fine when they see them. The onset can be gradual too which makes such insidious changes difficult to recognize.
These people are obviously Russian or from another Slavic country, in which case Natasha and Natalia are the same name - Natasha being the familiar version of the name.
Giving a grade this high when officer discretion and human decency would say "okay she's old, she shouldn't drive in this state, maybe find family to call and pick up the car," not risk her dieing in custody and hand cuffing her from behind like wtf is this country
@tech 52 You missed my point entirely. You said she reached for the hood, implying she was impaired. I said even as an athlete i reach for things to rest on. So am i impaired?
EMS for what? Driving under the influence? Age is irrelevant, you don't get a free pass because your old! ZERO tolerance for driving under the influence.
She could have easily lost her balance hit her head on the pavement a died. The guy was a bastard. The woman clearly stated she does not drink. Apparently she understands English better than the turd in blue uniform.
@@grandpied Just because she said she doesn't drink doesn't mean she doesn't (good sentence, no?...there's a song in there somewhere). The cop did the important thing...he got her off the road. And he did another smart thing...he called his supervisor. I give him a B+. I give the son a D for threatening the cop.
@@joemarshall4226 There is a song there somewhere. The cop didn't smell alcohol on her breath. He had no right to take her off the road. Both he and his supervisor get a big fat F, and the son earned an honorable A+, for displaying self restraint above and beyond duty. I hope he sues the pants off of the city.
@@m42037 mental faculties decrease as you get older. That’s also a fact. The degree varies, and when it starts changes, but your mental abilities surely lessen as you age. Gramps.
@@m42037 who said they were? Work on your reading comprehension perhaps. It’s clearly lacking. Also, it’s funny you can call someone kid, but get all butthurt at being called gramps. If you live in a glass dummy house you probably shouldn’t throw stones. If you do, remember that special helmet you wear.
@@vanessamw1140 I can't figure him out,I maybe wrong, but I disagreed with him on different occasions,sometimes you says the cops are right but they shouldn't even be in that position in the first place to be right or wrong, it's just my thoughts
She was clearly a threat and could potentially harm the public. If someone is placed under arrest, the officers MUST cuff them, it's not a choice. The mistake is not calling EMS for the woman. Another mistake is the son allowing her to drive about town.
If someone is not safe to drive a car, that person indeed is a threat to everyone in that same road. It doesn’t need an intent to hurt, just slow reflexes or blurred vision.
It's obvious the officer has no respect for the elderly and no intuition when it comes to them. Sure, I know you need to follow the law, but common sense and compassion need to be utilized, too.
The old lady had no respect for other people's lives or vehicles, so NO ONE owes her respect. "Elderly" just means old, and everyone gets old eventually. He owes her NOTHING special because of her age, but he gave her EVERY chance. No fucking way I'd be handled so politely. So please, put that "respect" shit in your back pocket and sit on it. That son of hers was ANYTHING but respectful. Had he been black, he'd been in jail with his mother.
It's what happens when society gets generationally segregated. I'm willing to bet the officer didn't grow up with his grandparens in the same household or even somewhat close. There was clearly a cultural and generational barrier there and the officer wasn't able/willing to work around it. The way I see it she was fit to drive about as much as he was fit to do his job.
That bothered me as well. Also the fact that when she said she was tired, he responded with, "I don't care if you're tired" at least twice. A little empathy might've resulted in more cooperation. This guy needs heart surgery....so he can be given one.
@@leoroberts5044 perhaps not FULL cooperation since she didn't understand, but I have no doubt that kindness/empathy serve to making someone less fearful, and if less fearful and more relaxed, she might've been inclined to give "MORE" cooperation, which is what I said. Certainly telling her, "I don't care" will do little to reassure her that he means no harm.
@@trudivecchione9642 Even a tiny shred of empathy would’ve changed everything. The female officer was completely in the wrong and lied to the son about the situation.
@@leoroberts5044 the lady is 80. She is obviously Russian or Eastern European. I'll wager she has seen the communist goon squads American police are starting to become. I wouldn't want anything to do with them either
I think once you’re a certain age you should have to take some kind of evaluation to make sure you’re safe to drive. I’ve known about 3 elderly people who used to drive around and get lost and hit things. Every time they came back there was new damage to the vehicle. I started driving them around after I got my license but I had no clue why a 90 year old person who could barely walk and see could still be able to drive.
Here in Ontario when you turn 80 you have to take a cognitive test to make certain that you're still fit to drive. It's not terribly invasive and I think it's generally a good idea to have some kind of test
there are stipulations for that, by law at least in Nevada, every 5 years after the age of 60 of 65 senior citizens are suppose to get an eye exam and take a drivers test if i remember right
Any cop that handcuffs an old lady "hands behind the back" style because he's "afraid" or for officer "safety" ......is a coward ! If your scared of little old ladies ......you probably don't have the intestinal fortitude to be a cop !
My mother was acting the same way one time, she didn't drink, she was septic. The cop should probably figure out that if someone is older the way she is, there may be another problem, it doesn't mean she's drinking.
That's linguistic entrapment. You either answer "yes" and thereby admit you were in an accident. Or you answer "no" thereby admitting you're so impaired that you didn't notice. Either way, you're screwed. It's the equivalent of the "Do you still beat your wife?" question.
This one is a tough case. 1. You have older woman who may have been impaired due to mental illness (such as dementia), medication impairment, etc - which all indicates she shouldn’t be driving. 2. Without any written documentation (such as a written warning) this could possibly occur again which will make it harder to revoke her license if there another incident 3. I would assume the son is the caretaker, but my question is if he is aware of the danger she would be on the road- why let her have access to a vehicle?
My mother has been a danger to the public when she drives for as long as I’ve been alive. I’ve tried to keep her from driving, but she is extremely hard headed. Her doctors prescribe her too many benzodiazepines when she is a drug addict. I’ve threatened her doctors to try and keep them from prescribing them. Even without the drugs, she is a horrible driver. It’s a nightmare. You have no idea how difficult a mother can be. However, if I had custody of my mom, I wouldn’t let her drive. It’s only a matter of time before a video of her ends up on one of these channels.
He probably wants to stop her from driving but legally can't. Having a car is pretty freeing and as a grown person losing that would be devastating. I've had those talks with older parents and because they're my elder, refuse to listen to me. This is mostly on the cops for not calling an EMT to help them determine what is going on.
@@benjaminasmus3980 If he really needed to, he could request her license to be revoked by providing medical documentation stating she is unfit to drive a motor vehicle. If he going to be her personal care taker, then he should be providing alternate means of transportation. There are programs that transport the elderly to doctor appointments, stores, etc (most of these programs won’t cost anything, unless you want to hire personal transportation). I can understand not wanting to over step certain boundaries, but a care taker does have legal responsibilities to care for them (such as monitoring medication and providing mobility needs).
Honestly this officer wasn’t listening. Obviously it was more of a language barrier. I understood what she was explaining ,she did explained perfectly that 6 months ago she was hit,prior. Elderly have impairment speaking at times when nervous, this female cop kept going in more circles it’s extremely obvious this cop doesn’t have any experience w/elderly. I worked with elderly professionally for over 20 yrs. Seems like they are taking the “call” that it’s beyond obvious theirs no damage to neither car. This was definitely token way outta line .
"Ma'am, are you ok? Do you need any help? Is there anyone from your family we can call? We are just concerned about your well being" - That would be the way to go in this interaction. But hell no! This sociopath put an old lady in handcuffs......
You seem to forget that the police were called due to a car accident she was alleged to be involved in. Followed by Doctor's Staff noting her seemingly "drunk" behavior and expressed concern. The Officer is far from a sociopath and was justified in everything he did. I could give a fuck about compassion for anyone driving under the influence be they 16, 47 or 99. Don't care if they have illnesses or close to death. I don't care, especially that the son is pissed and scared. He specifically that she lives with him because she needs looking after, yet he lets her drive. Bullshit!!
@@cup_cuppy_cuppers5817 Amazing logic! Guilty until proven innocent right?!?! I couldn't care less if the Staff thought she was "drunk". Anyone can call the Police and make any claim. The Police is supposed to be neutral. To interact with the public in a respectfull manner. (I am pro Police! I am just against dumb and psycopath cops). Was she driving under the influence?!?! Can you please answer me that? If she has a valid driver's license and hasn't committed any crime, she is allowed to drive. There is no arguments agains that. Now, you can ask yourself if she is still able to do so. And that's where the police should've been a bit more careful in this interaction. But hey, you seem to be a smart fella, so, what do I know.....
@@nadominhoca in the state of florida merely being behind the wheel with access to the keys can land you a DUI. You could drop the keys outside the door, lay back and take a nap and STILL get a DUI. Why? Cause you have access to the keys.
@@cup_cuppy_cuppers5817 No the Drs office should have called her family they dropped the ball then the rent a cop didn't call her family the idiot cop never called her family and explained to them her medicine or medical contion she should not be driving because they probably didn't realize it. The officers job protect and serve. He should have protected her and the public not allowing her to drive and calling her family not freaking arresting her its called discernment and not being a freaking robot. Arrest and charge is all he could think.
Comes with the job. As with any public work. Compare a young 16YO cashier to one of her supervisors or managers. The difference is experience. They've seen and done it all at this point. They've heard every fake story. Especially in police work, I believe you have to be at least somewhat cold. Otherwise the honeyed words of a criminal could swoon you. It's also unfair to say that all officers should be cut throat. Finding a nice balance of when to listen and be compassionate, with when to cut the bullshit and just get to work. That would be best case scenario in a perfect world. But unfortunately, not everyone is going go do their jobs perfectly. We are human. Situations at home will affect us. When I worked for Walmart and had someone calling us and threatening me and my family (son was still an infant at the time, no more than 3mos) the managers I explained the situation to barely batted an eye. I didn't want them to pity me or anything. But understanding why I couldn't come to work that particular day would've been enough.
@@D3ATHCOR3_DAD At least when I am having a bad day at home, it does not affect the lives of people in any significant way when I goto work. That is the primary difference.
Cop had cause to have suspicion and conduct the field sobriety tests. When she failed he had cause for arrest. He didn’t have to let her go into her sons care but did. I think many of these commenters are just trained to hate cops tbh. There was a witness to an accident, which is why he was there. There was damage. What if the sweet old lady hit a care in motion? What if it was your family that she hit and injured? Is she still so sweet?
@@megamonkey852 point is, he used his discretion to even contact his supervisor for instruction, which he wasn’t required to do. He could have let his ego get in the way and just sent her to jail. He didn’t.
In my country cops are not cuffing on every arrest. Only when there is no cooperation. I don't understand why this is neccessary there. Especially a grandma.
23:20 why is the officer talking as if thats a fact? neither officer saw that take place and can only assume thats what happened. multiple times he states the accident as a fact even though he didnt witness it and the other driver didnt stick around. not to mention the car has no apparent damage from said accident.
Dude could’ve easily made her blow into a meter. And do the breathalyzer but her wanted to make an elderly woman who can barely stand, do circus tricks she couldn’t even understand. Edit: i now know that it could’ve been medicine. Being said that, i still think he should’ve done some other tests after she stated “i can’t stand well”. I honestly think if someone saw her hit someone then that person that called should’ve told the person that their car was hit
Team IgotNext yeah definitely! But i wouldn’t blame it on intoxication because she can’t understand English 100% and I’d ask if she could have someone pick her up
Team IgotNext and another thing. She could’ve put it into reverse in an effort to leave. And then put it back in drive because she didn’t want her car hanging half way out of the parking spot
@@JaxsynBunker she understood his english perfectly fine. she was on medication and thats illegal. she couldnt stand and you said it too so if you cant stand how is driving safe? she shouldnt be on the road in the first place.. she says she gets his instructions then she should be able to follow them as a sober person would.
Never even thought of giving her a ride home and just suspending her license till she was examined. Putting her in cuffs, intending to take her to jail and dealing with her in that manner is despicable.
The way that young officer treated the Older Lady is Unacceptable. He needs training or maybe just needs to get a New Job with the Same Police department But nothing higher than Janitor
My mom was just pulled over and accused of DUI from marijuana. They did a field sobriety test on her made her stand on 1 foot for over 30 seconds while counting from 1000 to 1045. My mother is 57 years old and has serious bone issues after surviving breast cancer. To subject these elderly women to field sobriety test is absolutely asinine. He did not end up giving her a DUI. He let me come and pick her up but still.
As if that makes it okay? Oh I see someone might have done something that I disapprove of, now they need to have someone come and pick them up…this makes no sense she could have driven herself and his worthless ass knew it
@@foremanjacobmiller3589 it’s definitely not okay! He knew she was fine he was just being a dick. But at least she didn’t go to jail. He kept threatening to take her to jail.
i am facing the same thing. on me! 70yoM in the past couple months i have started the tremors, poor vision, and reduced reaction times...i am afraid my driving days are over.
@@DesertRoseinLV bullshit....YOU want medicare for all young and old. trump only wants it for the ones who have earned it. OBAMAs cohorts couldn't swing medicaid for all with that fucked up affordable care act.
@@LegDayLas if it makes you feel any better, i have driven less than 100 miles this year. health issues, vision issues. but i am still aware of my failings and won't endanger my fellow drivers because of selfishness...EDIT..perhaps you don't plan on reaching old age by choice, thats fine but insulting the elderly isn't smart. you too will be there one day, facing the same issues as what we have.
If I were her family I would question the doctor's office on why they allowed her to leave if they thought she was intoxicated. Technically they could not keep her in their building but they could have called her emergency contact prior to her leaving to express their concerns. They should also have examined her if they thought this behavior was out of character as she could have been having a medical emergency. I worked in healthcare as a nurse for 38 years and that's what I would have done instead of just calling the police.
I've gone to the e.r. plenty of times hammered. I don't like pain killers they don't work. So I break a bone? To the store!!! Lol always people saying "but ugh you're shoulder is broken " to the store!!. I wait a bit get drunk enough to not feel feelings then I go. Never been kicked out. I just make them laugh. Point is I agree with you on this one. That was wrong.
I don’t think the son magically appeared for no reason, therefore likely the doctor office DID call him! Just realized that myself! They called police because SHE HIT A CAR.
You forget that not only was she reported hitting another vehicle, but the place of business she went into to do whatever business she was doing, observed her and determined her to be under the influence of something. Which they also called in. Even with lack of evidence, a report of an accident and a driver being impaired will be looked into. Specifically because they want to avoid accidents, they want to avoid casualties. If investigating little old ladies to see if they are safe to drive.
Wouldn't the witness count as evidence? Of course, you can't simply believe the witness, but that IS enough to start an investigation. Which is exactly what this cop did. The arrest was simply the result of that investigation.
@@93DavidJ he already didn't believe that statement which is why he continued with the DUI and excercises, so instead why not call for medical personnel?
I don't think English is her first language so people have to take that into account. She is also a little bit of an older age and when they were giving all these multiple instructions with her her brain has two translate every word into her native tongue to understand.
@@Jaji813 yeah and they asked her and she said NO! so... she was a criminal after that point, wasn't she. it is up to a jury to decide if she unknowingly lied to police or not. if she can't even comply with a police officer's commands then how in the hell is she able to drive a vehicle that could end somebody's life?
@@Lee-wg7en SHE’S EIGHTY FOR GOD’S SAKE! To make her do roadsides is absurd. She’s also physically impaired! The field tests are also nearly impossible for a normal person to do, much less an 80 year old! EMS should have been called to check her out. And HANDCUFFS? Really? She’s obviously a huge threat to that young, power tripping officer. SHAME SHAME SHAME.
@@gailmarie4039 she tried to get back in the vehicle and drive? so handcuffs are appropriate... sorry but I don't care if she is out walking about acting impaired, who cares, but if she is behind the controls of a metal cuboid on wheels then she does not deserve special considerations. wonder how much emotion would factor into your judgement of this situation if she ran over your loved ones? HMM? what about that? why don't you think about that.
I read "don't resist" as he was trying to make sure the cuffs were not uncomfortable and she wouldn't be hurt. There was no indication he was threatening or trying to overpower her.
@Lisa I don't think she was drunk, just passed the age where she's still fit to drive. I don't think taking her to jail is the right thing to do because she could've been is life threatening danger due to not understanding the scenario around her in prison. She could've been in danger because of medication as well. That is to say, I also don't think the police should've let her go with her son, the son clearly believes in his mother, and - while that's usually a good thing, this could mean he'd be willing to let her continue driving once the police are gone. Personally, I think the best solution would be to drive her to her home and suspend her license with a test to remove the suspension (as the driving test is standardized, and if she can pass it, she's probably fit to drive)
There was another video of a woman who was slurring her words and wasn't coherent. The cops suspected she was having a medical emergency. And it turned out she was having a stroke. They could have made things worse by wasting time having her go through field sobriety tests. But by sending her straight to the hospital she got the care she needed. I do agree more training needs to be done to separate medical issues vs. sobriety.
Plastic Police - with a gun? i can't think of many things worse than that. This encounter was always going to be a painful one as it comprises of a jumped up ego maniac and an older person who's first language is clearly not English.
@@ohmyblindman you saying that just reminded me of a funny little exchange in an episode of family guy. Where Louis is talking to a mall Cop, L: "excuse me sir" , C: "that's officer", L: "(laugh) oh please, it's barely even Sir", C: "(defeated) yes, I know"
Why is a civilian officer doing a field sobriety test? most states a civilian officer {reserve officer) has limited powers... and with her medical conditions, she needs her driving privileges revoked...
She exhibits the symptoms of intoxication, but it seems far more likely that she needs medical attention! I suggest a stroke? Should have called the son before humiliating her with the tests.
Yeah definitely language barrier had a roll I'm an imagrant and have family members that can't speak English and hearing people talk it's almost like fast forwarded, trying to understand to the first word while the other person is on the third that being said it does make sense why the cop would suspect dwi
I agree with you. She clearly did not fully understand what the officer's orders were, and I fully understand why the woman was tired. My mom is 88 and gets tired easily. I have had an Arterial desection and get tired also and I am only 59 years old.
This Cop was a jerk to this poor lady. He was totally in the wrong. First of all he did not read her Miranda Rights. And he should have ask her her age. And if he thought it nessisairy to put her in handcuffs then at least let her have her hands in front of her.I don't care what the stupid laws are you don't handcuff an 80 year old woman. If you think that she is drunk then give her a breathalyzer test you stupid cop. I'm sorry but I have no compassion for stupid.
What grade would you have given?
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Happy thanksgiving. Usually I am very critical of the police but in this case, I thought the officer in question did a perfectly adequate job. The elderly women certainly gave me the impression she was in no state to be allowed to drive. The son started with his treats quite soon into the interaction and I thought the officer handled that quite well.
The choice to release the elderly woman to the son I also think is perfectly reasonable and during the whole interaction with mother and son, I thought the officer was as respectful and patient as could reasonably be expected. I find no fault in his actions and demeanor so I would give an A.
If the elderly woman indeed was neither chemically or physically impaired than she seemed extremely intentionally uncooperative.
@@daviddevries8242 I'm with you all the way.
@@daviddevries8242 Seems to be a language barrier too.. Her English was not very good.. He took that as being uncooperative... She is an 80 year old stroke victim.. No way she going to pass any of their tests...
I don't doubt the gentleman's story about being threatened with arrest for trying to file a complaint. It's not unusual for a citizen that attempts that to end up getting charged with ridiculous things like disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct, trespassing, public intoxication etc. Those charges could be dismissed later but the citizen will still have to post bail, hire an attorney and the incident will likely generate a record of arrest which can make it difficult to work in certain fields 💰👎
My elderly mother locked her keys in her car at the mall. The police were called. The doors were not locked and never were. They recognized her “impairment”. The cop drove her home and called us. We got to her house and found the fully equipped young cop sitting next to my mothers bed in a rocking chair waiting for us to relieve him. We asked him what can we do? She obviously should no longer be driving. He said he would take care of it. He filed the paperwork and that was her last day driving.
THAT is a good cop. Unfortunately, most good cops don't remain in the police force. They're too disgusted by the average cop.
I'm sorry that your mom is now reliant on others to get around. Its independence and freedom that is something people don't want to give up. And I can't blame them.
I hope she's doing okay and I know it can't be easy to be the one to tell her that she can't drive anymore. Probably heartbreaking.
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Yes. But this son has no intention of stopping her from driving. So, hopefully she doesn't kill someone the next time she gets wonky.
As a physician, I can state that most people in their 80’s couldn’t pass a field sobriety test.
So, let's make them all presidents!
Then they shouldn't be driving 🤷🏼♀️
@@wvrjl 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, everyone over 65 has to do those stupid fall risk screens. 90% of them don't pass the heel to toe tests.
Without the victim's car there, he really couldn't accuse her of having hit it. That must've been scary for her to have a cop pull up and start making demands and accusations. I'm surprised she wasn't crying. When an old person says they're tired, you don't demand them to submit to physically challenging tests.
I'm surprised that once her son said she had a stroke that was never considered as a possible source of the impairment. It seems clear to me that her driver's license should be revoked. But she does not belong in a cell.
Yeah I think our legal system needs a 3rd option here. A way for police to take her license but release her until a court or DMV can evaluate her ability to drive. I do agree the officer was correct in wanting to get her off the street tho. We give the elderly way too much latitude in driving
@@Travisrogers87 well said
She can drive RETARD AFTER SHE RECOVERS FROM STROKE ...OMG...
@@Travisrogers87 A law to have common sense and respect in dealing with the elderly is a sad day
@@Travisrogers87 The sad thing is that they have that, but there's way too much incentive to arrest and imprison.
I was once arrested for failing a field sobriety test when i was parked at a rest area on my way home from work. Once i was taken to the station and administered the intoxilizer i blew a 0.0. At which time the cop finally listened to me when i said i was severly dehydrated, dizzy, and confussed because i had been working a 12 hour shift in 110 degree weather all day. When i started feeling dizzy i pulled over and parked after 10 to 30 minutes is when i encountered a sheriff. I was released, to go pay a towing and storage fee for my car. Field sobriety is used as a weapon more often than people think.
Absolutely!
So they still made you pay for towing and storage fees? That is so wrong.
Yes, and there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. Like i said they use stuff like this as a weapon against us. It recently happened to a friend's dad in the same town when he criticized the police chief in a town meeting.
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I hope your file a law lawsuit
Having her examined by EMS would make more sense than a field sobriety test.
And removal of the driver's license until it is proven that she is capable of operation of a vehicle.
A mental evaluation by EMS is of little value in 99% of situations. They ask shit like, "how many quarters make a dollar?" "What year is it?" "Who is the president?"
As I typed my previous my response he asked two of those questions in the video.
@@Shane-un8pe Which is exactly the questions the officer asked to determined her sobriety.
@@arlandsr3385 while those questions CAN give insight into a persons level of sobriety, they are used to determine the persons mental orientation. It's called A&O - alert and oriented. There's 4 levels. Person- do they know who they are? Place-do they know where they are? Time-do they know the date? The final is situation. EMS typically only cares if they are oriented to three of those. Which is stupid because I dealt with a man the other day who knew what day it was, he knew his name, and he knew where he was. BUT he didn't know that he was completely bare assed in the middle of a park and he didn't know he was covered in his own shit. There was also no indication that he was intoxicated. So CLEARLY this man had some sort of mental episode occurring.
My grandmother, who I considered my very best friend, ended go with dementia. My mom and uncle didn’t want to have to be the ones to take her driving Privileges away, so I had to do it, I was in my early 20’s at the time. But it was terrifying knowing she could hurt herself or someone else. Anytime she needed to go somewhere I made sure I went with her, and “begged” her to let me drive: I told her I needed her input on if I was a good driver or not. This way it wasn’t a fight, and she didn’t know her driving privileges were taken away. She also got to “rate my driving” which gave her a sense of control over the situation. I miss my granny so much 😢
As I'm reading through the comments it hits me, how many of us have similar stories, and how little consideration is given to our elderly, your story warmed yet broke my heart. I fully believe that there comes a point in most people's lives when driving is a job better passed to someone more capable, a realization I'm dealing with now, after recently spending a few weeks with my Dad for the first time, post Covid. Although he's not that old (72) and is an extremely well - educated and intelligent man with no signs of slowing intellectually, several years of untreated AFIB, seems to have somehow damaged his ability to concentrate and react while driving. For example, slowing to 60kms/hr (limit 110kms/hr)on the highway simply because he saw a car approaching to merge into his lane, or getting sidetracked by a pedestrian and almost running a red light.
My point, you took an incredibly brave position with your Grandmother, when those responsible were unable to make the decision, and your method of turning your outings into a mutually gratifying experience is something you should share with great pride, those memories with her, and receiving your regular driving reports, will be a fond memory and funny story you can cherish for a lifetime. Thank you for sharing it with us, I hope that I am able to approach this transition with my Dad, with half the class you had at such a young age!
@@steeveejee4647 same exact situation with me.
My gma (mom) even said the same to me
Nice approach
Yeah with my mother someone had to be with her 24/7. Anything thing dangerous you could think of she would do it. Like turning on the stove and forgetting how to use a lighter and spending 3 min with the gas running. She wanted to help but everything she did was terrifying.
@@quietinspirationcreations3448 yes until it happening to you do you hear form others going through or had done it.
I give the Doctors office an F for not holding her and calling her son to come and pick her up to possibly take her to the ER. She could have been having a medical condition. Also the doctor can take away her license as well by sending a letter to the state DMV. If anything the son should go after the doctor for medical neglect and find her a new doctor.
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Very salient points. If she was that confused, when she left, might not she have been having a stroke?
Even if someone is impaired I don't think you can physically hold them in a place against their will. That's false imprisonment. Unless you can show me a law or statute that says you can do that, probably not a smart idea. I'm not talking about the morality, I think morally that would be a smart thing. But morals and the law don't always perfectly overlap
@@richardpowell4281you don't have to hold her against her will though. The Dr could have easily just taken an extra long time getting her appointment wrapped up and then bam the son is there and can take it from there. She would have no idea that he was holding her there. He could have easily gone and looked at her emergency contact info that all Drs offices ask and have on file in order to get her son or a different family members phone number. It would be whomever she put as an emergency contact.
If the Dr can be implicated, then so can the son. She lives with him, so he knows her condition and that she should not drive. She struck a vehicle and couldn't even put it in park, yet got away scot free
So a doctor’s office called the police when one of their elderly patients was acting strangely? Seems like a MEDICAL issue to me!? 🤯
For once I think this officer handle things as he should not knowing if she had a medical condition or not it was his duty to make sure she was okay and other people were safe out on the road but thank God her son showed up and things worked out for the better I hope this woman gets the help that she needs but she definitely should not be driving and kudos to the police officer😅❤
😮why didn’t her doctor’s office step in? You would think that they would know if she was impaired or acting erratically because of a medical issue. They could have called someone to come pick her up. That’s irresponsible and weird to let her just leave like that.
@kimhayden4822 but we don't know if they tried to stop her. Chances are they told her not to drive but she refused. The Dr's office is not authorized to restrain her from leaving if she insists. They did the right thing by calling the police to step in to assess her.
@@drizzter1374 that could be true. They might have tried to stop her.
Begins with the medical facility called
Then it's changed to a bystander calling because she hit a car
So which one is it
Imagine how pissed off your grandma would be if you tried to give her a field sobriety test and expect her to pass it with flying colors 😂
This guy is an idiot. Someday he may be old, if someone doesn't do away with him.
Did they fire this idiot
I agree with your statement at that age they are probably NOT ever gonna pass 100%.
@@suckitdx okay? so leave this comment section. You Just commented the most useless information
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You could have put the cuffs on her in front . out of respect . the woman didn't pose any threat to you . She's 80 .
come on it's a power thing had to dominate her
This cop is an idiot.
this cop is motherless
Didn't need cuffs at all
@@nic.h Agreed .
“My fingers hurt.”
“Well now your back is going to hurt cause you just pulled landscaping duty.”
Hell yea. Great movie. No one gets it cuz if they did they would of gave you a thumbs up
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This is an absolute classic i spit my tea out laughing so hard !! Great comment!
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Haha, best comment!
My 74 year old mother, never had a ticket in her life, had 2 accidents in one day from dementia. I had to take her keys away. It was a hard and sad day.
As a stroke survivor, illnesses such as UTIs can cause the symptoms of the stroke to get worse. So if she had any impairment from her stroke, a simple infection could cause cognitive difficulties.
Eww
Yes very much true but you are asking too much for a simple cop. He may or may not be an educated cop and that is the chance departments take hiring someone with limited education or learning abilities and you give them authority over us
@@IamSCS it's usually my 1st symptom too. Believe it or not, this can happen with anyone. Idk why it isn't common knowledge. I guess people don't want to talk about it but it's kinda vital information.
@@gavinschulte3017 think it's gross all you want just remember the information.
@@studentforlife714 absolutely 💯
As a normal person. I can tell that there is a language disconnection.
everyone can tell
@badinstincts common sense isn't common there's days
Ganeration language disconnection
I do think the police did well by not letting her go though
@@jbroberts8807- Even if police determine that a driver is not under the influence of any chemical, but may be sick, may have suffered a stroke, is sleepy, they have authority to detain the person until a friend or relative can come drive them home, pick them up, remove the vehicle or park it in a safe place until it can be retrieved - with permission of any concerned private property owner or tenant.
This cop asking “why you standing that way”... bruh she 70 ( 80 my bad lol)
Nich Hollywood Like she hasn’t been through enough bs in her lifetime. Smh. He’s treating her as if she’s a young girl
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80*
I only got just shy of 50 years on my hips and knees.. shoe moves better than me
..punk ass kid she/him cop... treated that lady like she some common ass thug
This is america
My mom has advanced dementia. When she first started showing signs she would’ve behaved very similar to this ☹️
Then shame on people who let her drive
@@KitchenOne-California The beginning signs of dementia is not like flicking on a light switch. It can take weeks to month before family can relize that something in wrong. In the early stage it comes and go
Exactly. They have very good coherent cognitive abilities then mins later...oblivious to surroundings. Then back to normal. In the beginning, families may not detect it if symptoms aren't showing consistently in front of them. I'm appalled this officer refused to consider the age and possible medical issue arising and calling for an ambulance. A medical professional. Smh this was absurd imo.
Glad they cuffed her. Granny probably would've done a double backflip over the cops head and snapped a neck or two with her elite ninja skills otherwise.
Grandma was America's most wanted senior edition...
Cuffing is standard procedure for everyone upon arrest.
@@TomBrooklyn well it shouldn't be .she is an 80 year old lady who has suffered a stroke and had hip surgery .what threat did she pose to him or herself? He humiliated her I felt shame for him to behave this way, awful people skills.lets face it she wasn't going to attack him or run away she could barely walk.
I felt the same way. Here in Colorado the police often exercise discretion to cuff a person in the front rather than in the back based on how combative the person is. Age is also a consideration. With age comes stiffness and being cuffed in the rear is difficult. And of course, the level of the threat is a consideration. He must have felt she did have elite ninja skills. The cop is a jerk. He should hope he never gets this old otherwise he might just find out how hard it is.
@@farleyxwilbur655 Yes at the very least at the front as she was not showing any violent tendencies as this would put her at less risk of being harmed. However I believe he handcuffed her just because he did not have enough patience with an elderly person. Not an admirable reason.
The Policeman or her son should have called the Paramedics to take her to the hospital for further evaluation. She was acting like she was disorientated.
Sadly when you only teach an officer to see drug/alcohol impairment, they only see drug/alcohol impairment. I had a very disoriented elderly man park in our fire dept lot around 2am. Clearly he was unable to drive and we had to call law enforcement. The deputy who arrived was also a paramedic. He was the most professional deputy who could’ve responded. Not once did he do any sort of drug/alcohol tests. He tried contacting the wife and other family members. He wound up driving the man to a local hotel and arranged for the son the pick up the man in the AM. Not all cops are able to rise above basic training and common sense.
Seems like a lack of empathy for this woman, the paramedics would have been a better solution
Bubbe is a nice lady, but she should not be driving. Her son should have manned up and stopped letting her drive.
She was on her way to the doctor, they should have let her son drive her there
@@climber950 The poor woman was scared.
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"...her speech is slurred"
MFer shes 80 and English is NOT her primary language, that you are instantly aware of upon contact. Wow...
I would say most of her "non-compliance" is due to her trying to comply and agree with the officer, but the language barrier got in the way.
When her was asking "have you been in an accident today?". She was hearing "have you ever been in an accident?"
That's why she kept answering " No, never, not for 43 years!".
I am glad he ultimately made the right call and didn't take her to jail.
@@carlydavis6196 The cop only let her go home with her son, after he was told to do so by his Sargent when he called in for advise.
The cop was too stupid.
This isn't a language issue. She hit a parked car. Her speech is slow and she appears drunk.
Yes ...Bad Cop work..! They should have brought a linguist..! She is 80 ..At 55 I cant see the pen movement and I dont drink..! ! Blah ..Blah ..!
"Have you had any alcohol today?"
"Never!!"
She’s old, confused and feeble. She shouldn’t be driving because of that, but I don’t believe she was intoxicated!
Before big pharma came into every household many elderly drove. This should become a poster for driving licences, especially now that psychotropic drug's are repurposed for everything, pain, depression.
AGREE
Coraleigh May-Dewitt I’m aware that legal RX count for intoxication, but I don’t believe that is the situation here.
Coraleigh May-Dewitt blood pressure meds doesn’t cause people to not be allowed to drive. The cops jumped on it when he was trying to prevent the next stroke in jail. The fact that she had a stroke before proved the fst was unreliable because brain injuries cause the same failure while completely sober and able to drive
She's never had a ticket or been on an accident. That Trumps "old and feeble."
I’ve failed a field sobriety test before despite being sober. I have a terrible balance, my eyes are sensitive to the light, among other things. I requested a breathalyzer and was let go. The field sobriety test needs to be…reworked to say the least.
I agree... I PASSED a field sobriety test and STILL got arrested and put in jail for FIVE DAYS (got pulled over on a Saturday night and Monday was a federal holiday, so Saturday, Sunday and Monday "didn't count") I was released Thursday night, and left with a $1,000 bill to get my car out of an impound lot... I almost lost my job, my car, and my place of living. Why? Because the officer said I was "slurring my speech."
I've seen a college football player. Active. Was told he had failed. When he was sober. Designed to fail for sure. Better off just to refure them. Every cop that gets stopped for DUI always refuses them. From what I've seen
Never take field sobriety tests. That is not what you agreed to when you signed to get your driver's license.
Yep, I passed one with flying colors even though I was impaired. No guarantee
Me too. I was a traveling nurse in another state in the dead of winter when I became quite ill with a kidney infection. On my way to Walmart to pick up my prescriptions, I was stopped by an officer. As a wounded Veteran, I had surgery on my left foot which prevents me from balancing properly. Due to my infection, I also was sweating & looked 'sick'. Just a perfect storm of circumstances. I failed the sobriety test because I couldn't balance properly and was taken to the police station. Later, a DRE officer examined me and asked me what was going on. I showed him my prescriptions, explained my service-connected injuries, and passed his exam with flying colors. He left the room and I could hear him screaming at the officer who pulled me over. To this day I can't stand that guy who arrested me. Thankfully, the charges were dismissed, too! I would NEVER go to that state for another assignment. Never again.
He said that he's tired of these games. So is the American public.
Yeah the public SHOULD be tired of ppl who can't even put a car in park to fukn drive
Yes, I’m tired of old drivers killing innocent people also😂
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@@ploppill34 yeah i am so sick and tired of that also, even tho she didn't hurt anyone, and the person who drove the other car didn't stick around.
@@PHELTHY49plus20 - I think she actually knew what she was doing there.
"You don't care?", the old lady asked her incredulously...
Indeed.
I could be stone cold sober and fail these tests..lol.
I could be drunk and ace the tests. Been tipsy never full on drunk but i think my European biology would kick into high gear. Also her name is “Natalia” (Наталия) and her beautiful thick accent is a dead give away that there may be a slight translation delay.
I just said this to my 15 year old daughter the other day. I am Clumsy have no hand eye feet coordination. I think I’d be able to look at something without moving my head but who knows! The thought of getting tested gives me so much anxiety and I don’t drink!
You don't have to submit to the tests, for this exact reason. Any evidence they gather can and will be used AGAINST YOU, it will not be used FOR YOU.
Never submit to field sobriety tests.
There isn't really a pass or fail, It's just a procedure that the city attorney or prosecutor requires to or prefers to have completed to charge with DUI. It just allows the officer to say that they performed their "tests" to determine that they're intoxicated. It doesn't matter how you do, if you're taking the test you are going to jail. You could be absolutely sober and you are going to "fail" the "test". It's best to not participate in the tests and refuse a breathalyzer. They will have zero evidence of any intoxication and it will most often be dropped in court, or never charged after a few days. You will lose your license for a year, but you will save $10,000 and a lot of time, you are going to be suspended for 90 days anyways.
@@Walter_E_Kurtz Never take field sobriety tests. they’re designed to make you look drunk, even if you’re sober.
My father-in-law had a stroke and wrecked his truck. He was somewhat incoherent when the cops arrived. But there were no sobriety tests- they took him to the hospital to have doctors check him out. He had no physical injuries but he didn’t smell like booze so they got him the help he needed- not a jail cell. And they called my wife to let us know what happened.
Yes, that's proper.
What a dumb cop. Robot. Common sense should have kicked in before giving her a sobriety test that he didn't ask her if she was willing to do. He just started instructing her to do those movements.
The handcuffs were important. Imagine that 80 year old lady taking off.
@@sheri4673 Not really...
I am pro cops... but handcuffing an old lady without having the evidence that she is not allowed to drive is purely tyrany...
@@sheri4673 Indeed.... my apologies!!! My brain is not functioning properly today....
Well, most of the days as far as I aware....
@esther fisher hitting the car wasn't really the issue, they were concerned about her ability to be able to drive safely. Allowing her to drive in an impaired state is a danger to herself and others. The handcuffs were completely unnecessary and what annoyed me most about this interaction, he could have simply got her to sit in the back of the squad car it's not like she was a flight or fight risk
@esther fisher I think that the officer had reasonable suspicion to consider that she may have been under some form of influence and initially opting to perform the field test was not really unreasonable. Her age alone shouldn't excuse her if she was not in a state to drive, especially given her denial of being on any medication and the multiple reports of concern that had been raised. So until the family member turned up he didn't really have another option. I'm not clear what lead the family member to turn up, but think the final outcome of her being released into his care was the right call. As I said my main fault with the officer was the use of restraints for an older more fragile member of society who had shown no threatening behavior and is obviously not a risk. I have an elderly mother who still drives, but is not 100% stable on her feet these days, she goes out of her way to make sure she uses her hands for balance as she has had a couple of falls previously and the consequences of a fall at that age can be fairly major.
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God bless him for defending his elderly mother.
Officers could also be trained on recognizing medical issues with elderly or call EMS; someone who’s diabetic can appear “drunk.”
Wow you have it all figured out don’t you! Impaired is impaired she could have easily went to jail for this. Educate yourself before you make ignorant come Chloe
That would lower their arrest rate
My mom is this age... can drive but does have balance issues (can walk, but not like this sobriety test)
It doesn't really matter whether the issue is from age or drunkenness though, if it impairs their thought process, it can cause crashes. And whether it was due to age or any other reason, the crash isn't any less dangerous.
With all this said, the balance test isn't a good test for driving as you can drive competently without being able to balance, and elderly can struggle to walk etc. The reason I'd be worried about her is because of the pen test, if she couldn't even focus on the pen, how is she meant to focus on the pedestrian crossing the road, and if she isn't able to follow commands around parking the car, it's unlikely she has the reaction speed / dexterity to stop the vehicle before a crash.
I think the best option would've been to take her home in the cop car, suspend her license in a way where she needs to do another test to show she is still capable of driving but can still get it back. This would help the son to feel secure because she isn't being imprisoned for being old (and potentially risking her own life), and it would help the cops because she isn't a risk on the road. (For all we know, she could've driven off after they left when the son bent to whatever she said.)
@@drumsticknuggets5123 I can see your point, it's a problem that the sobriety tests are ineffective for testing people with balancing problems. Since being unable to balance isn't a problem when driving (obviously), the test should be outside of these conditions to check for more real signs like the inability to understand and react to simple / medium scenarios and the ability to focus on what's occurring.
The problem is that the woman in this video has clearly shown in both the communication beforehand that she was probably a hazard on the road as she didn't seem aware of what the officer was saying to her and wasn't able to focus on the pen test. This is all the officer had to go on, so it was definitely the right call to get her off the road.
I also don't think releasing her to the son is a good idea because he seems to "suck up" to his mother and he might let her drive as soon as the police leave. This could cause a crash because (I don't think) she was fit to drive from what the video showed.
In my opinion, the best solution would be to take her home (not to the police station), suspend her license until she has another driving test to check if she's still fit to drive (As this brings a more expert view on her current fitness instead of a policeman / son who has a less complete view). This both protects the mother from health risks in the police station and being overstressed causing potential health problems AND it reduces the danger on the road as we aren't letting a person who appears to be unfit to continue driving around.
Like the disastrous and unconstitutional "War On Drugs", cops should have nothing to do with medical problems. Tell me, cop, what is your "medical" opinion of this lady?
"im not gonna play this game anymore"
it wasn't a game to her..
This is unconscionable, the level of disrespect for elders in America is ridiculous! Leave this poor elderly woman alone!!! The way he's talking to her is just unnecessary! Speak in a gentle voice to the elderly. There's no need to speak in such an intimidating way! I mean would you talk to your grandmother like that?!!! And she clearly didn't need to be threatened by saying she was going to be cuffed and taken to jail. I mean c'mon people! Cuffed?!!! Just ridiculous! If an older person says "I'm tired"... let them sit down for a moment to collect themselves and then begin again! That officer has no heart. She is clearly stressed. What is wrong with these people?!!!
No heart at all.
Agreed... many of our elders are treated poorly and no longer seen as having any value because they are "old". Even the age at which someone is deemed old and over. Is it 50, 55, 65, 80...years-old? Many, not all, but many have so much they can teach us. Living history books!!
This poor woman told him at the beginning that she had, had surgery on both her hips and had a balance issue...which was why she was leaning on her car for support. He seemlybfogot or just wasn't listening. This cop is an a-hole. He accuses her of playing games with him. Don't resist. He accuses her of trying to kick him. He accused her of refusing to participate with the test she was asked to perform. Instead of taking her age into account...he goes right to her being "drunk." The son didn't say that he knew for a fact that her medicine was causing an impairment. He now thinks that maybe it is the medicine. The doctor's office staff should have called the son...not straight to the police in this case. The officer could have called her son too. The charges aganist her were for going to be for being drunk. I agree that the officers need training and refresher courses in dealing with "elder policing" Seriously, they work where a large section of the population is elderly. Also, as demonstrated here a population of people that grew up in other countries and with different culture and social norms.
Yeah, I know...they are here now and need to adapt to the United States culture and norms. There may be some that won't, but for those that do..adapting, especially older folks, may take a longer time period than it would be for younger generations.
Something that wasn't mentioned was that the research also stated when it came to field sobriety test.
Also stated that people over a certain age that the accuracy falls off greatly and should not be preformed on senior citizens
I'm 56 and there is no way in the world that I could pass that test
SHOULD,nt HAVE TO, iF YOU JUST DONT DRINK N DRIVE,
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True, but they do not care and they will fail sober people based on field sobriety. You are at minimum, going to have your day ruined and have to go to the station
If you refuse the field sobriety, you will still need to go to the station... If they deem you DUI... If you take a breathalyzer and pass, they can act like you are on drugs
This can happen to anybody and does
In this particular case, the YOUNG Officer could have well served this citizen and himself by calling medical to evaluate the PATIENT as a skilled prudent officer would. As a trained officer in DUI investigation, this should have been evident that this was not a typically presented DUI and could have in fact been a life threatening event.
I completely agree. He was a total dick, she obviously had something going on and medical would have been a better call. Likely the same outcome too - she'd be off the road, but with the added benefit of better publicity for himself and his department. I mean come on, show people that you care about them.
She told him otherwise.
@@bevintx5440 how so?
Should the officer call medial attention for every impaired driver, or just nice old white ladies?
Bill Cook naw, he should just arrest everyone and not use any common sense.
I was given a field sobriety after I dodged a large animal and went off the road and into a ditch partly filled with mosquitoes. I hadn’t had a drink in probably over a month, so that wasn’t the issue. However, the trooper “smelled something” and I got the test. I’m over 60 now. The test wasn’t easy (yes, it’s hell getting old). He stopped it part way through and said I was fine. The smell, it turned out, was bug spray.
As far as this incident, there’s little doubt that the deputy was going to take the elderly driver to the slammer until his supervisor, a cooler head, said to send her home with her son.
The initial reason for the stop turned out to be bogus. No crime was committed. So what happened after was questionable. Granted, the elderly woman needed a medical evaluation, not jail.
From what I've seen and experienced myself, many, many cops are liars. They say that they smell alcohol anytime they think a person would have been drinking. They did that with a twenty-year- old athlete who didn't drink at all. He used that as an excuse, as well as a bunch of other lies that weren't true like fumbling with his registration. That one's on this channel. Then when he blew 0.0, the cop switched to saying that he could be on drugs. Well the smell of alcohol is quite different from the smell of any drug. I have personally experienced cops lying for their own benefit. We've also seen it many times on this channel.
Fruit of the poisonous tree?
I’m 31 and I can’t pass it so I understand
Heart breaking. An elderly woman saying shes tired and the cop saying "they dont care"
I noticed that too. What a cold hearted thing to say. Some people were taught to show their elders some respect, some clearly weren’t. Sad.
Too tired to complete field sobriety test means way too tired to drive. I don’t care if she’s too tired either, I care that she’s prevented from endangering others.
If she's tired she shouldn't be driving either though
But for real- who cares that some old woman is tired? She acted like that was a valid excuse for not doing the field sobriety tests. Sorry, but that’s not how it works. Plus her son is a POS, threatening a police officer that was just doing his job.
@@pinnsvein Right, but there are other ways to deal with that. Throwing an 80 year old lady in handcuffs and in jail because she's too dazed by her medicine to drive is just barbaric.
When I have seen similar situations such as this, there is usually an ambulance also called to assess the patient/detained.
There are a large number of senior citizens living in Florida and it's turning into one big nursing home and highways are the hallways. I can see where conducting a field sobriety test in Florida would be a nightmare. She appears to be unfit to drive but her son was there to take her home. She needs to be evaluated to see if she should even have a driver's license.
That's reasonable. Taking her to jail and cuffing her arms behind her back wasn't.
@@wvrjl I doubt this woman was jailed. The handcuffs were likely used to try, and scare her to not drive until the paperwork was summitted to assess, and subsequently take her license away (for both Mom, and son!). The denial, and arrogance were significant, Sherrey
most people 80 and above are not fit to drive but they are all over the place driving . when u are that old u got nothin left to lose anyway .
This is the first DWI for a senior in Florida that I have seen. Most I have seen are young 20 year olds
@@bc5001 well they actually ended up letting her go with her son so technically she was not arrested and booked on a dui .
He did the pen test like 5 times. It's clear that she speaks how old people do AND she has a heavy accent. Context matters.
@Yes Sir! Allegedly.
@Yes Sir! Well I'm sorry that you want to live in a world where officers abuse their powers because THEY think she's unfit to drive, but most of the rest of us do not.
@Yes Sir! You've missed my point entirely.
Of course if she is unfit to drive she shouldn't be driving. However, it isn't the officers duty to judge whether or not she is fit to drive in general, but to determine whether he reasonably believes that she is a danger to herself or others at that point in time. "Hitting something last week, and maybe hitting something today (we're not sure because there's no evidence or witnesses), but she's old and difficult to communicate with" is not sufficient evidence of that. She would need to undergo a medical evaluation in order to determine if she is fit to drive. She did, and she passed.
Running the same sobriety test over and over again accomplishes nothing, but it proves that the officer WANTED to find a reason to arrest her. It's a very common and underhanded tactic. If you're fine with having the police hassle you because they want something, more power to you, but we're fighting hard right this very second to combat this type of "vigilant" policing. Especially the kind where trying to file official complaints results in threats of arrest.
@@JK-ko6en the issue is not whether she is fit to drive MOST of the time, the issue is whether or not she was impaired at the time of the incident. If you watched the video, it's hard to believe she was not impaired. She was involved in an accident and her son even stated she takes numerous medications.
She can't even put her car in park bro. She was obviosly impaired and can't drive. Age isn't an excuse.
She also doesn’t sound like English was her first language. So some of her confusion and frustration could be because of that as well.
She just under the influence of old age. If anything, that’s the reason we should be concerned about her driving but I don’t believe she’s DUI
some drugs taken can cause the effects of a DUI, for example, sleeping medication can cause Burning or tingling in the hands, arms, feet, or legs
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Constipation
Diarrhea
Difficulty keeping balance
Dizziness
Daytime drowsiness
Dry mouth or throat
Gas
Headache
Heartburn
Impairment the next day
Mental slowing or problems with attention or memory
Stomach pain or tenderness
Uncontrollable shaking of a part of the body
Unusual dreams
Weakness
also if you have an allergic reaction this can happen Blurred vision or any other problems with your sight
Chest pain
Difficulty breathing or swallowing
Feeling that the throat is closing
Hives
Hoarseness
Itching
Nausea
Pounding heartbeat
Rash
Shortness of breath
Swelling of the eyes, face, lips, tongue, or throat
Vomiting
Blood pressure meds are notorious for causing confusion.
You were not there and thus cannot know her condition nor did you examine her as you obviously are not a physician. What you believe has no bearing on anything and you are unclear in your understanding of what "DUI" means.
The officer here could easily have written her up on DWAI and also confiscated her drivers license if she lived in the state I reside. She then would have to appear in court later and also would have to post bail to be released from custody. Her son was very insolent and irresponsible and the officer was patient in the situation. I am not a fan of police and one bad cop on a force makes all others look bad, the "blue wall of silence" we hear about is a weakness and criminal.
Do you think she was driving with ability impaired? Would you have ridden in her car that day or allowed your child to ride in her vehicle at the time depicted here? Her ability to drive a 2 ton vehicle was impaired as was her ability to comprehend what she was being told or to speak with cognitive thought.
The poll on public understanding police work is low and by design. Society is fed propaganda about police work which is not dangerous and police have immunities that keeps them from prosecution for crimes you would do hard time for. I live in a city of a half million people. In 160 years 13 officers have died on shift, 6 of those were not from crime but accidents of their own fault, 6 were committed by criminals and one was an officer shot to death and no suspects were ever known or found so the truth will never be known. How many loggers die each year? Construction workers? How much do they make a year and do they get benefits? Police make about $100,000 a year, have ALL benefits and early retirement with partial pay and keep benefits for life. They can pursue another career without losing their police pension and still collect Social Security as well. You have heard them say "low pay police work" but that is just propaganda. Oh yeah, they get overtime as well plus are rarely challenged while testifying in court which they refer to as "testilying".
@@cravinbob Blood Pressure meds can cause confusion, her son was being a dick, and like the cop said, although I hate to say it he was right, "Why are you letting her drive?" She certainly looked confused, and she's 80 years old. Cop was being a dick with the "Don't resist!" BS.
@@settheshallow8913 Totally. Is that how cops are taught to treat elderly folks? Since when was it ok to treat everyone a dangerous criminal? Handcuffs?
Imagine if this guy ever walks into a nursing home. "All these people are drunk and disorderly!".
That dumb ass cop would have smelled alcohol on her breath had she been drunk. That blue turd of a cop needs to be put into prison.
@@grandpied the cop never said she was drunk though there's a difference between dui and drunk dui doesn't mean alcohol
@@simoncohen4264 She was old, just because she couldn't sing and dance, doesn't mean she was dui.
@@grandpied she failed a dui test slurred he words and didn't follow basic commands the cop has every right to arrest her until the investigation is over and charge her with dui and no even if she is 80 you don't get away with driving went you can't
@@grandpied she wasn't asked to sing and dance she was asked to park the car very simple follow a own my 92 year grandpa can do that and walk in a straight line my grandpa can do that as well she also lied to the cops saying she doesn't take meds I don't care if your 18 or 80 you don't get let free of a dui
Poor grandma you can easily tell she didn't understand the instructions and English isn't her first language and she's old
Cop is a prick. What would he do if his mother or grandmother was treated like that? He's a piece of shit. An order following robot-puppet with no morals.
She didn't understand because she was as impaired as a drunk at four times the legal blood alcohol content.
THEN SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE!
@@hoosierhyperwatch5884 I don't want her on the road jeopardizing the safety of others. She is unfit for operating a vehicle.
If she can't understand the instructions, she shouldn't be driving.
They should’ve called in a DRE, that’s what I am. It’s a certified expert in non-alcohol related intoxication and would’ve made the call. Also, SFSTs are ineligible for people over the age of 65. They’re disqualified for this very reason. Tbh, I think you gave this officer a higher grade than he deserves…I’d never treat someone of that age in that manner ever. It was very disrespectful imo. The whole situation was bad for everyone.
How is a Digital Rectal Exam going to possibly help this woman in this situation? I mean, if they needed your help, it would have been before she left the doctors office and not when she was already driving the car. Of course they wouldn't call you at that point, it would be silly. And violate her privacy to boot.
ok Dr DRE
Cop observing, thinking.., "Is this really necessary?"
@Yes Sir! .. If a toddler is in the street, that's a parental issue.
@Yes Sir! .. With all due respect, look at the likes on my comment. And then.., there's you. I think that sums it up. Any further engagement will be considered harassment, according to TH-cam's standards. Have a wonderful day.
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@@PBLongfoot Which likes? So far I count zero.
@@johanbruijnooge6818.. The 59 shown above. ^^^
Exactly. i would have gone straight to, "do you have a family member who can come to get you?"
4:43 "The vehicle that you hit" Dude decided she was guilty before even beginning to conduct a proper investigation
Yes that annoyed me so much!
Yeah, the guy was all over the place stating "facts" when many of those words should've had "allegedly", "according to witness" etc. near them
Exactly and no victim
This was too painful to watch.
She's 80 years old for goodness sake!
Your age doesn't exempt you from following laws though.
My dad was killed by an elderly driver. If she's starting to become impaired she needs to have her license taken.
@@ehoffart529 I agree 100%. What I meant by saying "she's 80 years old " is she is not strong enough to be standing around.
Here in the UK we don't subscribe to sobriety tests, we would be breathalysed. Following on from that, a blood test would be required. In this instance doing both of these would have given clarity, eliminated confusion and to any discomfort.
In my very humble opinion, I would suggest that from the age of 75 years (and then every 5 years) people ought to have to take a road test. Failure to pass or to agree to have the test would result in being disqualified.
I say this because the older generation, of which I am near, have slower reflexes, appear to take more medications and can, sometimes, drive dangerously.
I would be happy to re-sit my driving test. It would instil confidence to other road users and satisfy my own questions as to whether I am safe to drive.
I am so very, very sorry for your dad and your family. Nobody should have to suffer the way you all have.
SoCalKook that’s absolutely true but to handcuff her is a little over the top.
To do blood tests, a person has to be taken into custody. Blood (and urine) tests typically do not come back the same day. She ws not actually suspected of being drunk, so what would a Breathalyzer have clarified?
What boggles my mind is that this woman has a hx of stroke/TIA and EMS wasn't contacted for this interaction. Slurred speech, cognative impairment, and her hx with having a stroke alone would have me calling for a medical eval straight away.
Imagine witnessing a crash and calling the cops but not telling the person their car was hit💀
That becomes the cop's job. Most people can tell, when they get to their vehicle, can tell their car was hit.
@@OmniscientWarrior Most people don't walk around their car looking for damage every time they get in it, which is what you'd have to do.
Where's the witness, and the damaged property?
Wade Hoover exactly. And even if the person drove off without knowing they got hit. Why wouldn’t the person that called the cops, inform the victim their car was hit
Likwid: that doesn't matter as the cop finished with that investigation and moved to the next one.
"I've got an elderly woman here. Request for back up."
Hillarious. Thank you.
Witness.
She has a cane, shes holding it tight with her right hand, should I pull my gun to make sure that she drops it? *Supervisor Yes make sure she removes the deadly stick that can take care of a unit of police officers that are armed with 9mm guns, we are sending a SWAT team right now.
@@theMyouknow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@theMyouknow She removed her dentures................shots fired, shots fired!!!!!
Literally a week ago, an elderly woman turned into my lane and despite me honking to alert her I was there she continued to drive. I literally had to pull a Nascar esque move to avoid her crashing into my 1 year olds seat. This woman obviously doesn't need to be driving even if she's not impaired by anything. It's clear it's time to download uber.
A NASCAR move..... Did you turn left?
She is impaired by age. Impairment should not depend on substances at all. Impairment depends on real time performance. Every individual is different and each metabolizes and reacts differently to substances. Some people are more impaired just by their lack of general ability, motivation, or discipline. Every person who is impaired for any reason should be required to take a driver training program and retake their license exam. So there is no double standard for someone who is young, sober, and still entirely incompetent. They deserve second chances; Not the right to endanger others.
I think the government should start at age 65 automatically requiring drivers to take a license renewal test each year and every 6 months over 70. Likewise anyone demonstrating any level of impairment or incompetence should be subjected to the same scrutiny for a probation period of three years. That way we won't be relying on incompetent families, or individuals, to take away driving rights voluntarily. If insurance companies were smart that's what they would require in their policy.
I'll support and voluntarily provide for anyone who is unable to provide for themselves. Provided they ask and their needs are made apparent. I won't trust the judgement of any individual with dementia or any other form of delusional thinking. Because their right to exist does not exceed the lives of animals, children, and other innocent bystanders that they are blindly putting at risk. Their intention could be as subtle as their own shadow. It's not relevant.
Just because an elderly lady cut you off doesn't mean this lady can't drive, doesn't make sense, your traumatized. Someone always wants to take someone freedom from them smh. her not being able to stand long has nothing to do with her driving abilities, they don't teach you how to walk the line when you get you're license.
thank God your baby is ok. I'm so sorry that that happened to you both. Old people need to have their driving checked to save kid's lives
@@_Ericka she shouldn't be driving because she's elderly, just like this knucklehead
you're not your
Constitutionly, she has a right to face her accuser which she couldn't do if they weren't present.
The accuser was someone besides the alleged victim. Probably some Karen saw damage on her car and assumed she hit someone that day.
@@josephfrechette9916 This is what I wondered, too, given the apparent lack of physical evidence. And had she just hit another car with that light, the damage would probably be on the driver's side, where the owner would most likely notice it before driving away. Someone saw two cars with minor damage and an elderly person, and decided they were ace sleuths.
In my experience with the elderly as a nurse they don’t usually register how impaired they are. Also the amount of impairment can vary day to day and even through out the day which can make it more difficult to determine when the time has come to take away the keys. If the elderly person’s ability fluctuates throughout the day and their family doesn’t live with them they might not notice how bad it is because they seem fine when they see them. The onset can be gradual too which makes such insidious changes difficult to recognize.
She did tell him she had hip sergury.
plum loco *surgery**
She also claimed to not be on any medication
And if shes taking painkillers after surgery she would be.....driving under the influence.
Him: "What's your name?"
Her: "Natasha."
Him: "Okay, Natalia."
Am I the only one who noticed this?
Maybe he's the one under the influence
These people are obviously Russian or from another Slavic country, in which case Natasha and Natalia are the same name - Natasha being the familiar version of the name.
I mean if a driver makes one mistake she goes to jail this guy makes a mistake and it's oh no big deal
@@alexdel-valle4503 no
He clearly says Natasha back to her
Giving a grade this high when officer discretion and human decency would say "okay she's old, she shouldn't drive in this state, maybe find family to call and pick up the car," not risk her dieing in custody and hand cuffing her from behind like wtf is this country
I thought she was standing on her own pretty good
Impaired people don't put their hands on their hips either. She's just old, not drunk.
@tech 52 I'm an athlete and I'm always looking for something to rest on 😁
@tech 52 You missed my point entirely. You said she reached for the hood, implying she was impaired. I said even as an athlete i reach for things to rest on. So am i impaired?
@tech 52 and you are an idiot who can't follow a conversation.
How the hell have they not called EMS by now. This is insane. She's 80.
EMS for what? Driving under the influence? Age is irrelevant, you don't get a free pass because your old! ZERO tolerance for driving under the influence.
She could have easily lost her balance hit her head on the pavement a died. The guy was a bastard. The woman clearly stated she does not drink. Apparently she understands English better than the turd in blue uniform.
What she doesn’t need EMS
@@grandpied Just because she said she doesn't drink doesn't mean she doesn't (good sentence, no?...there's a song in there somewhere). The cop did the important thing...he got her off the road. And he did another smart thing...he called his supervisor. I give him a B+. I give the son a D for threatening the cop.
@@joemarshall4226 There is a song there somewhere. The cop didn't smell alcohol on her breath. He had no right to take her off the road. Both he and his supervisor get a big fat F, and the son earned an honorable A+, for displaying self restraint above and beyond duty. I hope he sues the pants off of the city.
"Her speech is slurred and she is slow to respond" that tends to happen when you're 80 years old
For real. Just another moron cop.
That's not true, lot of people don't act like that at 80 that's a stereotype kid
@@m42037 mental faculties decrease as you get older. That’s also a fact. The degree varies, and when it starts changes, but your mental abilities surely lessen as you age. Gramps.
@@mikea5923 Not everyone at 80 is senile jerkoff, and I'm Gen X far from grow tf up
@@m42037 who said they were? Work on your reading comprehension perhaps. It’s clearly lacking. Also, it’s funny you can call someone kid, but get all butthurt at being called gramps. If you live in a glass dummy house you probably shouldn’t throw stones. If you do, remember that special helmet you wear.
20:15 "Don't resist!"
This prick is a major DB.
I know fuck that impaired old lady
i dont know about you but im done with ATA i get mad listening his back and forth
Fuck her. She was resisting. Being simply TOLD something is not harmful. She'lls survive. Old doesn't mean you can't murder someone with your car.
@@Anthony-rs5jf what do you mean his back and forth? Like sometimes he gives cops good grades and other times bad grades?
@@vanessamw1140 I can't figure him out,I maybe wrong, but I disagreed with him on different occasions,sometimes you says the cops are right but they shouldn't even be in that position in the first place to be right or wrong, it's just my thoughts
The officer gets an F for attempting to put his clipboard on the lady's car hood.
Its cause he's on drugs.
Its called a white privilege high.
Same thing I noticed!!!
@@lilmsmischief69 haha love that
@@lilmsmischief69 Yikes. You've drank the kool aid.
Clip-side down, too.
She's clearly a threat that could potentially harm those two officers. Good thing they cuffed her. ROFL
She was clearly a threat and could potentially harm the public. If someone is placed under arrest, the officers MUST cuff them, it's not a choice. The mistake is not calling EMS for the woman. Another mistake is the son allowing her to drive about town.
@@jeffsmith825 You're wrong.
If someone is not safe to drive a car, that person indeed is a threat to everyone in that same road. It doesn’t need an intent to hurt, just slow reflexes or blurred vision.
@@Jiepers if only there was a way for her to get a ride home...
@@GreatLordJason you mean that son? To who officers released that lady to?
This is what you call a coward cop 👮♀️ bullying a 80 year old woman 👵
You gotta love a cop who follows “what’s her situation” with “I don’t care”
That's because he was fishing. Didn't give any shitz other than building a case.
@@brianchristopher8843 Right so he let her go.
It's obvious the officer has no respect for the elderly and no intuition when it comes to them. Sure, I know you need to follow the law, but common sense and compassion need to be utilized, too.
Exactly. At some point, you would think that their commonsense would chip in to evaluate the situation...obviously this bunch had none!
Totally agree
The old lady had no respect for other people's lives or vehicles, so NO ONE owes her respect. "Elderly" just means old, and everyone gets old eventually. He owes her NOTHING special because of her age, but he gave her EVERY chance. No fucking way I'd be handled so politely. So please, put that "respect" shit in your back pocket and sit on it. That son of hers was ANYTHING but respectful. Had he been black, he'd been in jail with his mother.
It's what happens when society gets generationally segregated. I'm willing to bet the officer didn't grow up with his grandparens in the same household or even somewhat close. There was clearly a cultural and generational barrier there and the officer wasn't able/willing to work around it. The way I see it she was fit to drive about as much as he was fit to do his job.
@@darkoleskovsek2558 yes, there was a better way of addressing her driving skills/ability though.
Surprised the SWAT team wasn't called in.
She's not black.
They should have called Rambo !
@@mikewil7571 stop with the freaking race card! your part of the problem with this kind of rhetoric...no better than the officer onscene
Lol if she was black they would’ve arrested them when they started walking away or when they looked away.
So being an elderly stroke survivor is now illegal?
How many times did the police officer threaten granny with "I will take you to jail?"
That bothered me as well. Also the fact that when she said she was tired, he responded with, "I don't care if you're tired" at least twice. A little empathy might've resulted in more cooperation. This guy needs heart surgery....so he can be given one.
@@trudivecchione9642 There was NO amount of empathy was gonna get her cooperation.
@@leoroberts5044 perhaps not FULL cooperation since she didn't understand, but I have no doubt that kindness/empathy serve to making someone less fearful, and if less fearful and more relaxed, she might've been inclined to give "MORE" cooperation, which is what I said. Certainly telling her, "I don't care" will do little to reassure her that he means no harm.
@@trudivecchione9642 Even a tiny shred of empathy would’ve changed everything. The female officer was completely in the wrong and lied to the son about the situation.
@@leoroberts5044 the lady is 80. She is obviously Russian or Eastern European. I'll wager she has seen the communist goon squads American police are starting to become. I wouldn't want anything to do with them either
I think once you’re a certain age you should have to take some kind of evaluation to make sure you’re safe to drive. I’ve known about 3 elderly people who used to drive around and get lost and hit things. Every time they came back there was new damage to the vehicle. I started driving them around after I got my license but I had no clue why a 90 year old person who could barely walk and see could still be able to drive.
Here in Ontario when you turn 80 you have to take a cognitive test to make certain that you're still fit to drive. It's not terribly invasive and I think it's generally a good idea to have some kind of test
In New Hampshire and Massachusetts you have to pass a driving test more often as you get older, it's been like that for many years.
there are stipulations for that, by law at least in Nevada, every 5 years after the age of 60 of 65 senior citizens are suppose to get an eye exam and take a drivers test if i remember right
There should be a road test as well. I got a least like her lives near me. Scares the shit out of me to see her driving
Any cop that handcuffs an old lady "hands behind the back" style because he's "afraid" or for officer "safety" ......is a coward ! If your scared of little old ladies ......you probably don't have the intestinal fortitude to be a cop !
My mother was acting the same way one time, she didn't drink, she was septic. The cop should probably figure out that if someone is older the way she is, there may be another problem, it doesn't mean she's drinking.
Sobriety test is not for determining someone ability to drive... it's to determine impairment by alcohol. They may even have breathalizer for that.
“Do you have trouble standing ma’am?” Yea buddy she’s 80 years old
Then maybe she shouldn't be driving
@@notanybetter5264 Exactly.
80 or 85
@@notanybetter5264 correct! If she’s not capable of understanding clear and simple directions from an officer, she should not be driving. Period
Then she shouldn’t be driving
"So you don't know that you got into an accident?" Thats an objectionable question. The question presumes the subject.
Exactly. I didn’t at any time see any evidence an accident occurred that day.
It is a made-up title from the 4 graders that run the city!
That's linguistic entrapment. You either answer "yes" and thereby admit you were in an accident. Or you answer "no" thereby admitting you're so impaired that you didn't notice. Either way, you're screwed. It's the equivalent of the "Do you still beat your wife?" question.
Nice observation, that's an achievement Agent.
This one is a tough case. 1. You have older woman who may have been impaired due to mental illness (such as dementia), medication impairment, etc - which all indicates she shouldn’t be driving. 2. Without any written documentation (such as a written warning) this could possibly occur again which will make it harder to revoke her license if there another incident 3. I would assume the son is the caretaker, but my question is if he is aware of the danger she would be on the road- why let her have access to a vehicle?
He threatening the cop with taking everything he has in a situation that he is the one on the wrong surely did not help. Dumb as hell.
@@categoricamente1753 he wasn't in the wrong
My mother has been a danger to the public when she drives for as long as I’ve been alive. I’ve tried to keep her from driving, but she is extremely hard headed. Her doctors prescribe her too many benzodiazepines when she is a drug addict. I’ve threatened her doctors to try and keep them from prescribing them. Even without the drugs, she is a horrible driver. It’s a nightmare. You have no idea how difficult a mother can be. However, if I had custody of my mom, I wouldn’t let her drive. It’s only a matter of time before a video of her ends up on one of these channels.
He probably wants to stop her from driving but legally can't. Having a car is pretty freeing and as a grown person losing that would be devastating. I've had those talks with older parents and because they're my elder, refuse to listen to me. This is mostly on the cops for not calling an EMT to help them determine what is going on.
@@benjaminasmus3980 If he really needed to, he could request her license to be revoked by providing medical documentation stating she is unfit to drive a motor vehicle. If he going to be her personal care taker, then he should be providing alternate means of transportation. There are programs that transport the elderly to doctor appointments, stores, etc (most of these programs won’t cost anything, unless you want to hire personal transportation). I can understand not wanting to over step certain boundaries, but a care taker does have legal responsibilities to care for them (such as monitoring medication and providing mobility needs).
Honestly this officer wasn’t listening. Obviously it was more of a language barrier. I understood what she was explaining ,she did explained perfectly that 6 months ago she was hit,prior. Elderly have impairment speaking at times when nervous, this female cop kept going in more circles it’s extremely obvious this cop doesn’t have any experience w/elderly. I worked with elderly professionally for over 20 yrs. Seems like they are taking the “call” that it’s beyond obvious theirs no damage to neither car. This was definitely token way outta line .
She dosent seem drunk she just seems old and confused my dad is like this hes kind of off and slow thats how it is when youre old!
Then don't drive we took my grandmas car away from her because she isn't good to drive
I'd be confused to if i got arrested for an accident i wasn't in.
@@Direwolf1166 A witness saw her hit a parked car. Next time it might be a child or slow moving pedestrian.
@@paddlefar9175 a witness could say anything you can’t always trust what a witness has to say, video proof or i don’t believe it
Which can impair your driving skills which is why he was concerned...
"Ma'am, are you ok? Do you need any help? Is there anyone from your family we can call? We are just concerned about your well being" - That would be the way to go in this interaction. But hell no! This sociopath put an old lady in handcuffs......
You seem to forget that the police were called due to a car accident she was alleged to be involved in. Followed by Doctor's Staff noting her seemingly "drunk" behavior and expressed concern. The Officer is far from a sociopath and was justified in everything he did. I could give a fuck about compassion for anyone driving under the influence be they 16, 47 or 99. Don't care if they have illnesses or close to death. I don't care, especially that the son is pissed and scared. He specifically that she lives with him because she needs looking after, yet he lets her drive. Bullshit!!
Exactly!!!!
@@cup_cuppy_cuppers5817 Amazing logic! Guilty until proven innocent right?!?! I couldn't care less if the Staff thought she was "drunk". Anyone can call the Police and make any claim. The Police is supposed to be neutral. To interact with the public in a respectfull manner. (I am pro Police! I am just against dumb and psycopath cops).
Was she driving under the influence?!?! Can you please answer me that? If she has a valid driver's license and hasn't committed any crime, she is allowed to drive. There is no arguments agains that.
Now, you can ask yourself if she is still able to do so. And that's where the police should've been a bit more careful in this interaction.
But hey, you seem to be a smart fella, so, what do I know.....
@@nadominhoca in the state of florida merely being behind the wheel with access to the keys can land you a DUI. You could drop the keys outside the door, lay back and take a nap and STILL get a DUI. Why? Cause you have access to the keys.
@@cup_cuppy_cuppers5817 No the Drs office should have called her family they dropped the ball then the rent a cop didn't call her family the idiot cop never called her family and explained to them her medicine or medical contion she should not be driving because they probably didn't realize it. The officers job protect and serve. He should have protected her and the public not allowing her to drive and calling her family not freaking arresting her its called discernment and not being a freaking robot. Arrest and charge is all he could think.
Cops shouldn't need extra training to act like a human, or treat others humanly, and that's embarrassing.
Comes with the job. As with any public work. Compare a young 16YO cashier to one of her supervisors or managers. The difference is experience. They've seen and done it all at this point. They've heard every fake story.
Especially in police work, I believe you have to be at least somewhat cold. Otherwise the honeyed words of a criminal could swoon you.
It's also unfair to say that all officers should be cut throat. Finding a nice balance of when to listen and be compassionate, with when to cut the bullshit and just get to work. That would be best case scenario in a perfect world. But unfortunately, not everyone is going go do their jobs perfectly.
We are human. Situations at home will affect us.
When I worked for Walmart and had someone calling us and threatening me and my family (son was still an infant at the time, no more than 3mos) the managers I explained the situation to barely batted an eye. I didn't want them to pity me or anything. But understanding why I couldn't come to work that particular day would've been enough.
@@D3ATHCOR3_DAD At least when I am having a bad day at home, it does not affect the lives of people in any significant way when I goto work. That is the primary difference.
Cop had cause to have suspicion and conduct the field sobriety tests. When she failed he had cause for arrest. He didn’t have to let her go into her sons care but did. I think many of these commenters are just trained to hate cops tbh. There was a witness to an accident, which is why he was there. There was damage. What if the sweet old lady hit a care in motion? What if it was your family that she hit and injured? Is she still so sweet?
@@pedromatos2631 Only after the Sergeant had him unarrest her.
@@megamonkey852 point is, he used his discretion to even contact his supervisor for instruction, which he wasn’t required to do. He could have let his ego get in the way and just sent her to jail. He didn’t.
In my country cops are not cuffing on every arrest. Only when there is no cooperation. I don't understand why this is neccessary there. Especially a grandma.
23:20 why is the officer talking as if thats a fact? neither officer saw that take place and can only assume thats what happened. multiple times he states the accident as a fact even though he didnt witness it and the other driver didnt stick around. not to mention the car has no apparent damage from said accident.
Yes several times.
I feel like he saw her walk out of the store and made up she supposedly hit another car
Dude could’ve easily made her blow into a meter. And do the breathalyzer but her wanted to make an elderly woman who can barely stand, do circus tricks she couldn’t even understand.
Edit: i now know that it could’ve been medicine. Being said that, i still think he should’ve done some other tests after she stated “i can’t stand well”. I honestly think if someone saw her hit someone then that person that called should’ve told the person that their car was hit
If I were an officer, I would question if someone were okay to drive too if I saw them struggling to put the car in park like that.
Team IgotNext yeah definitely! But i wouldn’t blame it on intoxication because she can’t understand English 100% and I’d ask if she could have someone pick her up
Team IgotNext and another thing. She could’ve put it into reverse in an effort to leave. And then put it back in drive because she didn’t want her car hanging half way out of the parking spot
@@JaxsynBunker she understood his english perfectly fine. she was on medication and thats illegal. she couldnt stand and you said it too so if you cant stand how is driving safe? she shouldnt be on the road in the first place.. she says she gets his instructions then she should be able to follow them as a sober person would.
Always Complains your just always complaining. Like your name😭
Never even thought of giving her a ride home and just suspending her license till she was examined.
Putting her in cuffs, intending to take her to jail and dealing with her in that manner is despicable.
Agreed
"Old people are above the law"
Cool story bro
The way that young officer treated the Older Lady is Unacceptable. He needs training or maybe just needs to get a New Job with the Same Police department But nothing higher than Janitor
Cop: "Who is the president?"
Woman: "Putin"
lol. i heard Putin Trump.
Maybe she misheard the question.
Who does the president answer to?
@@cerebrumexcrement You may have heard that but it's been proved otherwise. well the accusations have been proven false.
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@Rodolfo Benza Even if they meant the US Putin is pretty much the president since trump is his bitch.
My mom was just pulled over and accused of DUI from marijuana. They did a field sobriety test on her made her stand on 1 foot for over 30 seconds while counting from 1000 to 1045. My mother is 57 years old and has serious bone issues after surviving breast cancer. To subject these elderly women to field sobriety test is absolutely asinine. He did not end up giving her a DUI. He let me come and pick her up but still.
As if that makes it okay? Oh I see someone might have done something that I disapprove of, now they need to have someone come and pick them up…this makes no sense she could have driven herself and his worthless ass knew it
@@foremanjacobmiller3589 it’s definitely not okay! He knew she was fine he was just being a dick. But at least she didn’t go to jail. He kept threatening to take her to jail.
Given he didn't push it, I'd be grateful ..just saying
@@antistupidmalfrignegganlis1643 definitely!
@@antistupidmalfrignegganlis1643 right lol.
I remember when my parents came to the sad conclusions they could/ should no longer drive. It is devastating to give up one's independence.
@Wally Reyes how do brainwashed youth affect the elderly not coming to terms with the fact that it isnt safe for them to drive anymore?
i am facing the same thing. on me! 70yoM in the past couple months i have started the tremors, poor vision, and reduced reaction times...i am afraid my driving days are over.
@@DesertRoseinLV bullshit....YOU want medicare for all young and old. trump only wants it for the ones who have earned it. OBAMAs cohorts couldn't swing medicaid for all with that fucked up affordable care act.
@@BigSkyCurmudgeon Ok boomer.
(I had to say it) also don't drive, you sound dangerous.
@@LegDayLas if it makes you feel any better, i have driven less than 100 miles this year. health issues, vision issues. but i am still aware of my failings and won't endanger my fellow drivers because of selfishness...EDIT..perhaps you don't plan on reaching old age by choice, thats fine but insulting the elderly isn't smart. you too will be there one day, facing the same issues as what we have.
This kid has no empathy for the elderly. Hopefully hes nicer to his elderly grandma, but i doubt it.
If I were her family I would question the doctor's office on why they allowed her to leave if they thought she was intoxicated. Technically they could not keep her in their building but they could have called her emergency contact prior to her leaving to express their concerns. They should also have examined her if they thought this behavior was out of character as she could have been having a medical emergency. I worked in healthcare as a nurse for 38 years and that's what I would have done instead of just calling the police.
I've gone to the e.r. plenty of times hammered. I don't like pain killers they don't work. So I break a bone? To the store!!! Lol always people saying "but ugh you're shoulder is broken " to the store!!. I wait a bit get drunk enough to not feel feelings then I go. Never been kicked out. I just make them laugh. Point is I agree with you on this one. That was wrong.
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I don’t think the son magically appeared for no reason, therefore likely the doctor office DID call him! Just realized that myself! They called police because SHE HIT A CAR.
"There's witnesses saying you hit a parked vehicle"! Where's the evedence? None? Good by!!!
Exactly her light was broken there should still be plastic/glass on the ground where she hit this car.
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Glass?
You forget that not only was she reported hitting another vehicle, but the place of business she went into to do whatever business she was doing, observed her and determined her to be under the influence of something. Which they also called in. Even with lack of evidence, a report of an accident and a driver being impaired will be looked into. Specifically because they want to avoid accidents, they want to avoid casualties. If investigating little old ladies to see if they are safe to drive.
Wouldn't the witness count as evidence? Of course, you can't simply believe the witness, but that IS enough to start an investigation. Which is exactly what this cop did. The arrest was simply the result of that investigation.
They should have called an ambulance for a medical evaluation.
She said she was fine multiple times, he gave her the opportunity to ask for one, so who would be the one on the hook for that ambulance bill?
@@93DavidJ he already didn't believe that statement which is why he continued with the DUI and excercises, so instead why not call for medical personnel?
@@93DavidJ there's no such thing as an ambulance bill unless they actually drive someone to the hospital.
@@cm01 That's not true.. Ambulance can send a bill for just coming out.
@@93DavidJ not around here that's all I know about and I'm in the US
I don't think English is her first language so people have to take that into account. She is also a little bit of an older age and when they were giving all these multiple instructions with her her brain has two translate every word into her native tongue to understand.
This is painful to watch , there are many reasons why the elderly lady couldn’t pass a field sobriety test.
yeah but she tries to get back in the car and leave, like what are the police supposed to do.
@@Lee-wg7en They're supposed to understand that she's elderly and may be on medication. Not treat her like a criminal.
@@Jaji813 yeah and they asked her and she said NO! so... she was a criminal after that point, wasn't she. it is up to a jury to decide if she unknowingly lied to police or not. if she can't even comply with a police officer's commands then how in the hell is she able to drive a vehicle that could end somebody's life?
@@Lee-wg7en SHE’S EIGHTY FOR GOD’S SAKE! To make her do roadsides is absurd. She’s also physically impaired! The field tests are also nearly impossible for a normal person to do, much less an 80 year old! EMS should have been called to check her out. And HANDCUFFS? Really? She’s obviously a huge threat to that young, power tripping officer. SHAME SHAME SHAME.
@@gailmarie4039 she tried to get back in the vehicle and drive? so handcuffs are appropriate... sorry but I don't care if she is out walking about acting impaired, who cares, but if she is behind the controls of a metal cuboid on wheels then she does not deserve special considerations. wonder how much emotion would factor into your judgement of this situation if she ran over your loved ones? HMM? what about that? why don't you think about that.
“Don’t resist” says the cop to an 80 year old lady in handcuffs.
Real Tough guy he is
He's a POS. Wait until his mommabecomes like that
In Tennessee, the number 1 enemy of the poor who is elderly isn't dementia or hypertension it wears a blue uniform and is deadly,
I read "don't resist" as he was trying to make sure the cuffs were not uncomfortable and she wouldn't be hurt. There was no indication he was threatening or trying to overpower her.
@@enderdelphiki dont resist is FUCKING INDICATIVE of him having to overpower her. Otherwise it would go unsaid, yes?
Seems like she didn’t need to be driving, but arrest, cuffs, and the threat of jail is extreme.
We didn’t see her driving?
@@gregkasza1925 you are obviously misinformed. Do some research first before saying anything
@@Npileafs5 I don't get your response? like, we didn't see her drive, but the dui did kind of show she wasn't fit to drive imo.
@Lisa I don't think she was drunk, just passed the age where she's still fit to drive. I don't think taking her to jail is the right thing to do because she could've been is life threatening danger due to not understanding the scenario around her in prison. She could've been in danger because of medication as well.
That is to say, I also don't think the police should've let her go with her son, the son clearly believes in his mother, and - while that's usually a good thing, this could mean he'd be willing to let her continue driving once the police are gone.
Personally, I think the best solution would be to drive her to her home and suspend her license with a test to remove the suspension (as the driving test is standardized, and if she can pass it, she's probably fit to drive)
@Lisa You are just like this idiot officer. Your a prime example of this rot and decay happening to this country.
There was another video of a woman who was slurring her words and wasn't coherent. The cops suspected she was having a medical emergency. And it turned out she was having a stroke. They could have made things worse by wasting time having her go through field sobriety tests. But by sending her straight to the hospital she got the care she needed. I do agree more training needs to be done to separate medical issues vs. sobriety.
I can't get my head around the concept of a "civilian officer".... Sounds like an oxymoron.
I geuss he’s implying all officers aren’t civilians wtf
Plastic Police - with a gun? i can't think of many things worse than that. This encounter was always going to be a painful one as it comprises of a jumped up ego maniac and an older person who's first language is clearly not English.
Mall cop
@@ohmyblindman you saying that just reminded me of a funny little exchange in an episode of family guy. Where Louis is talking to a mall Cop,
L: "excuse me sir" ,
C: "that's officer",
L: "(laugh) oh please, it's barely even Sir",
C: "(defeated) yes, I know"
Why is a civilian officer doing a field sobriety test? most states a civilian officer {reserve officer) has limited powers... and with her medical conditions, she needs her driving privileges revoked...
Wtf he just sneak attacks and cuffed her cuffed he didn't want to play this game??? Clearly there was a language barrier.
She exhibits the symptoms of intoxication, but it seems far more likely that she needs medical attention! I suggest a stroke?
Should have called the son before humiliating her with the tests.
Yeah definitely language barrier had a roll I'm an imagrant and have family members that can't speak English and hearing people talk it's almost like fast forwarded, trying to understand to the first word while the other person is on the third that being said it does make sense why the cop would suspect dwi
I agree with you. She clearly did not fully understand what the officer's orders were, and I fully understand why the woman was tired. My mom is 88 and gets tired easily. I have had an Arterial desection and get tired also and I am only 59 years old.
Take a shot every time the officer says "if you give me the opportunity"
I better pop the headache medicine in advance.
This Cop was a jerk to this poor lady. He was totally in the wrong. First of all he did not read her Miranda Rights. And he should have ask her her age. And if he thought it nessisairy to put her in handcuffs then at least let her have her hands in front of her.I don't care what the stupid laws are you don't handcuff an 80 year old woman. If you think that she is drunk then give her a breathalyzer test you stupid cop. I'm sorry but I have no compassion for stupid.