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They broke into his car because of a two day late inspection sticker? I have rescued dogs, a trick dog, agility dog, and a therapy dog. I know dogs do make mistakes.
@@Cinzanos83 What's your deal? AtA needs to eat just like the rest of us, he works hard on his videos and gathers information, case law, etc. to inform the Auditing community on interesting stories, I hope he did make a lot of money but that doesn't change my opinion of him either way, I want good content creators to thrive and the only way many can is with Ads in their videos, if this means we can continue to get content then I'm more than happy to watch a minute ad so we can keep AtA around longer! It's not cops advertising on his channel, so it's nothing that's going to change his objective and subjective reasoning so let the man make some money to stay afloat and stop being sad a content creator gets to make something from their hard work!
that fine should be paid by the officers who conducted the traffic stop and not the citizens tax dollars. it seems ignorant to have this citizen essentially pay himself for the trouble caused by the officers.
What would happen if the K9s were declared "unfit" after exposing the car searched to have no drugs? Police K9 units would then PLANT drugs to insure their K9 was NEVER declared unfit...I KNOW FOR A FACT HOW CORRUPT MANY OFFICERS ARE ! ! ! I not only have current and former friends in law enforcement but also a few family members who told MANY stories of police abuse (this was in Philadelphia during the 70s & 80s) including suspects who needed serious medical attention after falling up elevator shafts...yes, up.
@@jeffrejr1 you mean illegal promissary notes that are devalued daily with occult symbolism ,one of them being Moloch ,deity that needs children sacrifice
@Ja Sa the all seeing eye is actually a visual representation of how the eye actually works. The field of view is how they trick us into believing there is a curve
As a teenager, a long time ago, was at a field party when several sheriffs came on the property. They lined us all up and had an obviously old dog walk the line. It alerted to nothing. Most of us had weed in our pockets. We didn't have the heart to tell them that their dog no longer worked.
I may be wrong but I thought they were trained to hit on objects and not actual persons. And that is why I’m school they ask people to leave their belongings on the desk along with bags etc.
@@WarPartyFitness So the dog wouldn't be able to detect drugs in a backpack while a person is wearing it, but would suddenly become able to detect them when the backpack is placed on a desk? Unless human beings emit some kind of dog interference pheromone, I'd have to question that logic.
@@adamwillis908 it’s not interference it’s training. If they are trained to not alert on humans they will not hit. It’s probably for the safety of the officer as a person could attack or run if the dog alerts on him.
I am over 70 years old, I have interfaced with police for decades. My experience is that about 75 to 80%of the officers should not be wearing a badge, bullies, thugs, idoits caring guns. These guys fit right in again.....
“ If a fast food employee exhibited the same unprofessional behavior, they would be fired immediately “ Ive never heard a statement so accurate. Law enforcement is literally the one of the only fields in which one can act like a complete jerk and get away with it. There are higher standards at McDonalds.
And, with a badge and a gun, they have the power of life and death and imprisonment for innocent people. I grew up in Atlanta and St. Petersburg, Florida with crooked Nazi cops. Even in my own family. Other than a child molester, there is nothing worse than a crooked judge, DA, or cop, who have power over us.
I say that hit all the time... Its like when they shoot the wrong person but deem it okay because they "followed proper procedure". If I didn't note someone's allergy when I put an order in at work It doesn't matter that I put the order in the right way they fuckin die... I know you killed someone but you know how to use the POS.
And they're going to start winning more and more and more and I'm going to see to it I'm starting a company called the pro se law firm and we only get 7% will take you by the hand and walk you through the courts we can't represent you but we can sure give you the tools to show you how to use them and I'm going to help the help a lot of people because 7% is way better than 37%
Ya. Not in West Texas. Jury finds you guilty no matter what. I guess they're all just excited to be part of something. I was foreman on a grand jury once... No matter how shady the case or evidence, EVERY SINGLE brief that was brought before us was approved for prosecution.
That and sit on there bum and shoo people away. Long story short I tried to file a report. They refused and kept sending me from department to department.
The dog might not have actually "alerted" as they each respond in different ways . The officer can SAY the dog alerted just to have "reasonable suspicion" and search a car without the owner's permission. With an officer with this attitude you can almost always bet the dog is going to "alert" and your car's going to be searched! And if they're REALLY dirty cops you can bet something you've never seen before is going to be found in your car. There's a video on here that a officer finds a white powder in a plastic bag and says it has tested for cocaine and arrests the man. The substance is sent to the drug lab for verification and it came back powdered sugar from a donut! Come on! Any cop can tell donut crumbs!
Had one hit at a border Patrol checkpoint. They lift dog up into my Semi truck and it ate my cupcakes and jumped down. Officer gave me 10 bux for the cupcakes. Appearently they were the dog's treat for a " job well done."
5:50 The officer deployed a K-9 unit claiming "officer safety". I'm sure hundreds of law enforcement officers are seriously wounded by expired license tabs every day.
They do caution against the mentally incompetent having sharp objects. License plates have very sharp edges and thousands die from paper cuts every year, they've really put their lives on the line. Have some respect! 😀🤣😃
They don't take those jobs to protect and serve they take it to harass and dominate and hopefully fulfill a kill fantasy. The perks of being able to drive drunk and armed are really limited now but they still have the power to turn the camera off and film only what benefits them. Until the camera is fixed to stay on and be public and available to anyone the corrupt cops are going to prosper and multiply
@N7_NahNo Proves the officers are "the enemy" war criminals, enemy combatants, and guilty of treason. The driver should have immediately demanded to go free or shoot the enemy dead. They are guilty of treason.
He did immediately amend his statement to clarify what he obviously meant. Clueless people constantly use the phrase "the law says....", to which the obvious counter-question is "what law?" In this case, the guy used the term "constitution", and the cop instinctively used the question "what ". It's no different than a clerk saying "enjoy the stuff you just bought" then you inadvertently reply "you too!" before realizing that made no sense in context. But really, you just expected them to say "have a nice day" and gave an appropriate reply.
@@watershed44 Sorry that it was necessary to explain the painfully obvious. But clearly there are plenty of people too intent on proving some ridiculous agenda to bother with pesky things like truth or reality.
The dude gets an A+ in my opinion. He did everything absolutely perfectly. I feel like you didn't give him that A+ for his lack of knowledge of the laws because he was legitimately concerned and had no idea if what they were doing was lawful and I wouldn't either. He was calm, challenged their statements but didn't go against anything they said, and when they gave him an ultimatum, he questioned if they were allowed to provide an ultimatum. Though I don't believe he should have questioned the officers as much and I think he should have complied as he puts himself and his dog at risk to these thugs but him questioning them was a legitimate concern and I believe this wouldn't have been taken seriously if he didn't do his due diligence as a citizen and properly questioned these thugs- i mean police officers. I am sure these thugs probably got a slap on the wrist and no actual repercussions though. Honestly, when I see a poor skinny white man like this driving with his dog being treated like a drug dealer/addict because he's in a cheap car and wearing a beanie, these police officers do not portray themselves as anything more than thugs and bullies with guns.
All that, but imagine the dude is black. Doesn't matter what he's wearing, doesn't matter what his car looks like, and suddenly there's a drastic increase in the odds of someone being arrested (or worse) for aggravated eye-rolling and public displays of disagreement.
For this young man to be charged with obstruction is ridiculous. He was incredibly polite and not once did he say he was refusing to do anything asked of him. At most, he said "under duress". This officer was way out of line. Reading his police report, you'd think this young man had to be dragged out of his car at gunpoint.
@@mrandersen6872 Yeah, man am I glad I live in a city where for the most part the police aren't corrupt. And they're pretty damn lenient tbh. And somehow they keep the gang and criminal activity to a minimum.
I've had a dog alert on my and they ultimately found nothing. After an hr or so on the side of the road with 5 cops, I ended up getting some bs ticket for having an out of state license after living there for 30 days. When I went to court the judge actually called on me ahead of everyone and told me I could just leave. Apparently he read whatever report and saw it for the crap it was.
@Kolya-The-Vodka-Guzzler Wow you're STILL one of the only people that gets it! The police are an UNconstitutional illegal standing army and also violate their oath. That makes them war criminals, enemy combatants, traitors, and guilty of treason. The penalty is death by hanging.
@Google LIES 2 f u There's a good movie from 1989 called "An Innocent Man" starring Tom Selleck. It's about crooked cops who plant drugs on people in order to obtain a "bust." The clothing and hairstyles may be dated, but the movie is worth a look.
@@ShadyS-2012 These dumbSh!t pigs (no offense to honest and servant officers) do not care one iota about costing the city / county / state the settlement amount, or for that matter, any payout. They justify their power trips with their egos. In their eyes, this guy was guilty before the dog arrived. Officer had no probable cause in that the young man reeked of drugs, alcohol or displayed any other signs of illicit / illegal activity. Cops like this are losers and give good cops bad reputations.
I don't think they had that mentality. But there are ways to go about "sticking up for your rights". This guy thought he knew the law, but didn't, and his behaviour certainly dind't help the situation. i.e. the locked container bs, not winding his window down, and the manner in which the questions were asked didn't help the situation. The police can ask you to exit the vehicle. You not winding your window down to talk, or to make it difficult to talk is a sure way to actually get pulled out. He could have asked the police, "are you asking, or ordering me to?" (rather than a particularly wordy, and what to most would seem as an antagonistic refusal under the guise of a question) at which point he would have probably gotten an answer and then he should have opened it. As has been stated before, the street is not where you argue the legitimacy of an order, or police conduct, it's in the courtroom. He wasn't up on the law, because if he were he'd know that a K9 alert gives probable cause to conduct a search warrantless. And that the SC ruled that the boot is part of the vehicle and that now that it had progressed to a full search that the boot was now able to be searched.
The more I watch ATA, the more I’m convinced the police are given too much discretion under the law. There needs to be clear and defined boundaries for the police to interact with average citizens. I think the most annoying thing about this interaction was that the cops stood there looking like M4 was wasting their time, when they were the ones who prolong it.
The cop who stopped him is a local "star" in that area and he's been well known for harassing people for petty things and generally abusing his authority.
@@erichkorman710 its called the thin blue line also 6 weeks of training to be a cop ... without a rather in debt psychological evaluation of the candidates CRAZY..
The stop was legal. He didn't have a current sticker on his vehicle. Everything else came from the fact that he questioned their authority. These officers should be suspended and retrained before they are allowed to go out on the streets again.
So I researched into this case, and the settlement was, it looks like, for $160,000, according to the headline from an online VA Lawyers Weekly article. Let's just appreciate that this Officer Hogan cost his city an amount that's worth over 22,000 of work to a minimum wage worker in VA in a single incident because of his carelessness, impatience, and disregard for the law in regards to other people's rights. 22,000 hours is over 900 days, so if somebody worked minimum wage 24/7 for 900 days, they still wouldn't have made enough themselves to pay off Officer Hogan's blunder.
VERY nice! I think that amount was justified. This again is why people HATE the police. Too many are thugs with a badge. All these ;police here should be fired.
If any officer searches your vehicle because a K9 makes an alert and finds nothing, that K9 should be relieved of any future drug sniffing duties forever and the police sued for invasion of privacy. I think this would end them queuing the dog to react. For those who think they hit on the smell of old drugs, isn't it true most American one dollar bills have residue on them?
@terry waller You actually trust the word of the cops to not falsify a "hit" or "alert" by the K9 because they don't like citizens refusing to comply with infringements on their rights?
@terry waller if you watch enough of these videos, you will see there are plenty of cases that clearly show the cops stating the dog made a hit, when in fact it was false or the cop used the excitement of the dog as a hit and probable cause to search the ........
Actually, police can "frisk" (protective sweep) areas of the motor vehicle where a weapon can be hidden (i.e. center console, glove box) with only reasonable suspicion.
Because this channel is the only police interaction channel (that I know of) that isn't posted by the citizen in the video, and presents an unbiased, logical and unemotional view of what is happening. This form of presentation encourages the viewer to listen to, and easily comprehend the content without getting defensive. Of course there will aways be some that refuse to understand and learn, and those people are just a lost cause.
Because all news media are pro law enforcement. They only cover violent interactions between police & the public. The media is just as corrupt as police departments.
@NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 Plus they have outsourced the training of the K-9's so the Officer is now trained by a 3rd party on how to handle the poorly trained (by others) dog. These searches should be required that 100% of the search is videotaped. So that Expert Witnesses for the defense can review the tapes for inconsistencies. Like giving the dog subtle commands to alert when there is no proof that there is anything there.
@NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 that's true but he had no right taking him out of the car to begin with, which would have stopped the rest until or if the dog signaled. It was the first violation of his rights that lead to the reat
NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 ya know he could had had a tiny touch of drugs on his hands or fingers and when he pointed to the driver side door he could had just briefly touched it, just enough for the scent of the drug to make him signal.
Considering where the dog alerted (the door handle) it may be the case that M4 does use a drug of some kind but just doesn't have it in his car or on his person, so his hands dirty with drugs may have dirty'd up the door handle with drugs and that is what the dog was alerting to. It's just weird that the dog didn't alert anywhere else except for the door handle.
@@Arjay404 Or, givem the name M4, which is the designation of a rifle, maybe he is a recreational shooter and had gunpowder residue. Or maybe it was legal CBD oil. There can be many reasons besides "drugs on his hands". My dad was a K9 officer and dog trainer. Dogs will alert for any number of reason including just to be told "good boy". They can be trained to alert... just to alert so cops can behave like we see above and use them as an excuse.
Officers need to carry liability insurance. If they are found guilty of anything while on the job, their insurance should pay out and there should be a high deductible.
@@oregondude9411 sorry, but i have ti but in on this. As a dispatcher, i had the option fir the insurance. Yearly cost was $5,000 out of a $35,000 income. Lets not forget taxes which is 20%. That does not include the other odds and end of dental, vision, healthcare, Social Security, unemployment ect. $35kx20%=$28k $28k-$5k=$23k (Odds and ends) Take home of $21,000 Thats $1750 a mount or $875 biweekly. Keep in mind, this is needed to live on which you simply cant in my area. The pathetic part, thats the highest paying job as a grocery store is only $1000 a month income.. With that said, the deductible its plenty high enough. Its not even insurance to say the least, but lawyers when required. The county/city pays for the end settlement not the officer. He does get reprimanded and it states on fike that transfers to every department he gets employed at. If a large enough hit, it goes to state files against his peace officer license.
That's what pissed me off the most. Taking away the guys freedom is bad enough, but sending the dog to a shelter instead of allowing a family member to come collect it? Go fuck yourself for that one.
How does M4 not get an A+? I think he's one of the most calm and collected featured civilians I've seen out of all the vids. He admits that he's not a legal expert and asks reasonable questions throughout. Most individuals don't have caselaw or other jurisprudence expertise. Exemplary behavior.
I spent 13 years training narcotics and explosive detector dogs for the military. Watching these type videos utilizing "drug" dogs is appalling. So many of these handlers seem to only have a basic knowledge of how to conduct a search, and many of these false responses you see are caused by the handlers either talking the dog into it or maintaining eye contact with the dog, which causes the dog to respond to please the handlers. It's quite obvious that civilian k-9 teams are not tested properly to ensure the teams ability to find any substance is kept at a high percentage.
I hope you see my response in 2020 yes it's old at this point. I suggest the idea to you that if you are a proper trainer and k ow tat this is wrong you must stand up for what is correct. Do not post your knowledge and stop there. As Americans we are all supposed to uphi!d the Constitution. You have a duty as a subject matter expert to CORRECT these problems as much as you can!
Please. Stop. The notion that this is just a result of 'poor' training is somewhat ambitious, sir. It is largely intentional. If it were just for poor training you wouldn't be getting the desired responses that the police prefer. This is intentional. So...just providing 'proper technique' is intellectually dishonest. That 'too' can easily be corrupted for corrupt ends. In fact, it is likely that these clowns 'were' trained properly and you are seeing the devolved form that the police required for their purposes. Naiveté is simply an obsolete response to the world we live in.
@@i.m.9918 - the person said: >It's quite obvious that civilian k-9 teams are not tested properly to ensure the teams ability to find any substance is kept at a high percentage. This statement is clearly pointing out that it is likely that the training is kept minimal/poor for the intent of maintaining a high percentage of unlawful searches under the guise of legality. They just said it with different words than you.
No, they need to loose their lives. Government officials abusing their power and braking the law should be treated as terrorists. Because that is what they are.
They are not trained in the Constitution and often are trained to arrest you if you mention it. Not that they know what it is. They spend more time training them to kill you and get away with it than they do Constitutional rights. The very word Constitution being mentioned in a stop diminishes your chances of surviving the harrassment stop.
Well although I think this whole thing is stupid on the police officers behalf, I believe he was asking wether M4 was asking about the U.S. Constitution or the state constitution.
Even when the charges are dismissed you still have to come up with the money for the tow, the impound and the fees for getting your dog out. Plus the time you missed work. I've never heard of them giving that money back without an additional court case.
@@joj4541 Yeah it's a fault in the nature of training dogs in general. To train them to indicate that they have detected a particular scent, they must be rewarded upon doing so. In the field this then can result in false positives given that theyre used to a positive being rewarded
This man knows the law. He's getting them to answer questions he already knows the answer to so he can collect. Nicely done! They are systematically writing the cheque and adding zeros to the amount.
@Rando I guess you haven't heard of asset forfeiture or how many cases where large amounts of money is taken and your forced to prove it wasn't obtained illegally
@Rando People transport money all the time. There was a case where a guy had his life savings in his pickup truck (not much, like ten thousand dollars) and was going to purchase a vehicle in cash. Cops stopped him on a minor violation and, without finding drugs, seized the money on suspicion of it being related to drug trafficking, because he couldn't produce a bank receipt on the spot for it. Had it taken and didn't have the money to pay for a lawyer to get it back. You need to pay for the lawyer because you aren't being charged with a crime, so no right to a public defendant. Asset forfeiture brings in billions of dollars a year to police departments, much of it from people without resources to fight it.
It's not the dogs fault though. They are trained to give false alerts. If this dog were dismissed, the same thing would happen with the new dog. The problem is systemic and dismissing the dog will not change that systemic problem
Sense008 I disagree. The dog is useful for SWAT and VERY expensive. If it were decommissioned for a civil rights violation case they would quit this practice
Won what? Cop isn’t punished. He still went to jail. His dog was taken and separated from him put in a strange shelter. His vehicle was towed. He had to invest time and money into fighting the arrest. None of it compensated. He didn’t win he just lost less then others.
@@jeremiahcaples963 If the whole process was illegal, the city will refund the amount of money that u paid, at least that's what AtA said in many of his vids
I’ve trained every dog I’ve ever had. I can tell you with 100% certainty that dogs are people pleasers. If they figure out there’s a reward, even a pat on the head, they will exhibit a behavior to get their reward. The dog knows if he alerts he gets praise, so he’ll alert every single time if the handler rewards them. Nothing complicated about it.
A K-9 got a false hit on my car once and after two cops tore my vehicle apart, the arresting officer told me “well you had something in there before.” Never had any kind of drug in that car the entire time I owned it. Had it towed and I was charged $25 a day but I wasn’t allowed to get my car back until 30 days had passed. So I was getting charged everyday even though I was ready to get it day 1. Land of the free!
I would have got the car out drove it right into the station and set the car alight and deal with what was coming after I am wrath and will not be fked over with out some payback and that's the bottom line
Montevallo police department in Alabama pulled this on me. I forwarded their revenue scam to the alabama department of revenue and got the chief to resign and alot of cops fired. Fast forward a few years montevallo police got caught in another scam and is no more. Very telling of the integrity of our so called "sheepdogs" as they like to call themselves. I suggest you fight back but do it smart. Don't file a complaint with them. Take it to someone higher that could get a nice promotion from someone else's downfall. This is the only language these thugs speak.
@@taylormcgill6643 They specifically targeted Latinos or illegal immigrants in a series of unlawful stops with sole purpose to impound vehicles then charge a ridiculous price to get their vehicles back. Tow company gave them their cut. Going as far as keeping some of the cars and selling them at auction. You will be hard pressed to find any reporting of the event but people who lived there know. Chief of police Sutherland. I went to school with his son when the shit went down.
This is the Hoax police are today. Traitor chiefs around the country say their number one priority is the safety of their officers. They are not only wrong but accessories to every crime commited by cops. These are criminals violating rights as spelled out in our constitution of laws they have never read. We need a shakeup that teaches them fear of police is not respect. Respect can only be earned; nobody repects these thugs, their accesory traitor chiefs or the criminally coward prosecutors who ignore crimes by law enforcement. Any crimes by anyone in these positions should recieve mandatory minimum jail sentences like they advocate for the citizens they SERVE
I’m still baffled by the fact that a free air sniff by a dog can invalidate your rights to unlawful search and seizures. This is a dog, the same animal that’s famous for licking its own butt. Yet the dog is granting access, something even a judge won’t do without probable cause or evidence. Then we have the fact that these dogs are typically wrong. I don’t know the numbers but if cops stop 100 cars and the dog alerts on 73 of those cars, but then of those 73 alerts contraband is only found 23 times. There’s never any record of those 50 times the dog was wrong and those people had their rights violated unnecessarily. Instead the thin blue line gang privilege gets extended to the dog, by the officers always claiming that there was drugs there, but they either couldn’t find them or they had been moved. It’s never a consideration that the dog was wrong. But wouldn’t statistics like that be very significant for to a lawyer defending a citizen accused of drugs after the results of the dogs sniff? Lie detector tests are not admissible in court because they are so often wrong. So why is a dog that is wrong way more often than not deemed ‘reliable’? The dog is just another revenue generating tool. A way to circumvent the constitution. A way to get people charges. The more people charged, the more revenue for the system.
My organization that I’m apart of decided to bring in dog trainers to show the kids the dogs and their behavior, they pulled out a dog named “speedy” and said he was training to be a police dog, they also said “speedy” got a Kong as his reward for finding stuff. “Speedy” started alerting to thin air and just alerting everywhere to get his reward, and they actually gave it to him!!
People are under the notion that dogs have some keen sense of smell. They dont they are trained to find the smell of narcotics but if something else has the same smell they are going to alert. Unreliable.
Just another reason why you should always film your interactions with the cops. If we all stood together against these unjust encounters, then maybe it will change how cops treat us.
"I don't want to - are you forcing me?" - "lright, he's not going to unlock the door..." - that's a federal felony, right there. He is lying under color of law to abuse a citizen.
It won't stop until police are help personally liable, financially & criminally. Of all citizens, police are held to the lowest standard. It's absolutely disgusting 🤮.
Did they find any drugs? That is the most absurd part. They accuse the citizen of something and while this original accusation turns out to be completely wrong, the citizen still gets arrested for "obstruction of justice".
This stuff enrages me. I have worked with k9's for a long time and that dog did not alert. Dogs respond quickly and strongly to scent as that is their primary sense. The dog reacted to scent on the driver door handle which was probably a reaction to the driver's dog's scent and/or food/treats. It was a complete fishing trip. They don't like it when there's no crime being committed so they go looking for something they can turn into a crime. On a professional level these guys are criminal. On a personal level these guys are bullies and just garbage humans.
I'm not mad, I'm happy. The system worked. M4 is significantly richer for his troubles. The only thing I want to know is what kind of disciplinary action if any did the idiot cop face?
If you want to get arrested then make $100,000s say these two phrases "I don't consent" and "I'm going to sue your department." Officers will immediately then treat you draconically and do everything they can to incriminate you, further increasing the chance you make crazy money when you do inevitably sue them. Petulant children.
All of this happened because he wouldn't tell the officer where he was coming from. A question that should have never been asked. It's irrelevant to the traffic stop.
@Lars Peanish, professional gift wrapper. You are so right. Absolutely no reason to make sure ANY car driving down the road has functioning brakes or working lights.
I live in Virginia as well and this happened to me. My friend was driving and speeding. The policy officer was a k-9 unit that pulled him over. There were no drugs in the car. I was 17 and I smoked my grandma's cigarettes. They were unfiltered pal malls (gross I know but you do what you got to when you're 17). The packs we're paper and tobacca fell out of the packs and lined the inside of my backpack. They said the dog hit on my back pack and said there was trace amounts of weed in the tobacco. There absolutely was not. The officer wanted to have me prosecuted as an adult since I was a month away from being 18. They sent the tobacco to be tested at a lab and it came back negative for any drugs and nothing happened. I was a horrible experience.
it came back negative for any drugs? So it didn't have nicotine in it? I'm being a smartass here, but my point is to show how arbitrary the drug laws are in our society. Cancer-inducing tobacco (with nicotine)? Go ahead. Liver/brain/kidney/heart/etc-rotting alcohol? Why not!... Physically close-to-harmless drugs such as cannabis, some weaker opioids, tryptamine/lysergamide-esque psychedelics etc - OMG the world is going to end. All. Drugs. Have. To be. Legalized and regulated so as to remove black markets, focus on treatment instead of imprisonment, and general personal freedom. When a state tells you that alcohol, a drug which is more harmful than heroin or meth, is fine, while criminalizing the rest... are you actually free, or are you a subject to hierarchy whose main goal is to make you into a complacent drone for the capitalist interest?
@@andreroy8141 thank you. I actually expected to receive a lot of backlash for going against the grain here. But yes, seeing as alcohol is a much more toxic drug than hard drugs such as heroin and meth, and is regarded by experts in the field as having comparable addictiveness and negative social effects (physical violence due to drunkenness, missed work due to hangovers, major healthcare costs due to alcohol-related health issues etc), it is illogical to have different regulations for them. In the US, they already tried making alcohol illegal and the expected happened - poisonings and overdoses from impure products, black markets and flourishing underground organisations. Mafias of that day made a significant portion of their money/power from alcohol sales. And it's no different now. Cartels killing people in Mexico, users accidentally overdosing on spiked drugs, users ingesting toxic additives? Direct effect of illegality. Like, look, I don't use such drugs. I wish humans didn't use recreational drugs (barring some useful ones like psychedelics and empathogens). But the reality is that they do, and we need to focus on making it as harmless to the individual as well as the society.
@@eduardovela7170 well, it's like this, while you have to sue the city as well, if the cops broke the law, they lose their liability waiver. You can take their own money, and whatever it takes to settle the judgement, their house, their cars, about anything of value. First you sue file criminal charges, cops always walk on those, that's a given, but in civil court, the cops usually get stung.
@Neila Pasa Ain't sayin that, just that you have to get their personal money too, or what have you taught them, nothing. So long as they think they're protected, they won't learn a lesson. Hell yes, take from the damn city, county or state too, but you gotta get the individuals as well.
@@tootall5559 Sadly taxpayers lost $160,000 here, that's what they settled for in court. No action was taken against any of the officers involved. It's crazy these cops can do this and just have taxpayers pay for it, I wish taxpayers would pay for my debt and stuff as well....
Was arrested for having "cannabis" in my car when it happened to me back in 2019 and let me tell you. The lawsuit was priceless and got two officers fired from the department on the fact im a medical cannabis patient which they refuse to search up and just immediately detain and threw me in the cell. The officers faces were priceless
Marijuana is still illegal in all 50 states so that is irrelevant, but if they made an illegal search then they they should be fired. The cops in this video needs to be fired.
Watching tons of these, it seems a very useful question people could ask in response to any officer request/order is "are you asking me, or are giving me a lawful order to do it?" If they say asking, the answer is always no, because if they have to ask, that means that they require consent and cannot order it, so the answer is obviously no. If it's yes, then you always do it, even if you think it's unlawful, and deal with it in court later. If they bark "yes or no" I would think the best response is to cover both scenarios forcing them to answer. in this example, i.e., "if you're asking because you require my consent to search the trunk, the answer is no. if you say it's a lawful order, then I'll open it. if it turns out you're wrong, that will come out in court. if you have the legal right to break into the trunk, then I'm not going to stop you. so you have your answer." If they repeat "yes or no?" then you just repeat everything you just said.
@@sparkyUSA1976 interesting but with cops I think it's simpler. they are always either asking or ordering. you need to know the difference. if you're not sure, ask, and expect them to get pissed off, but hold your ground. if they require your permission, that means they can't make you, which means you have a right (that people fought and died to give you) that says you don't have to and therefore should not, lest you dishonor those who died to give you those rights.
Why are cops still over weight? They’re suppose to be “crime fighters”. If they don’t have the discipline to maintain their weight they need to get off the streets.
In my experience most cops just want you to shut the hell up and do as you’re told and if it doesn’t go that way they will fish or look for a gray area to trap you.
A reasonable adult would never expect another adult to shut up and do as they're told. We're not toddlers or pets. Were people who pay taxes that provide them with employment. When they talk to us as such, then they will get the respect they seek.
The dog didn't even do a full alert though and alert means the dog makes a full sit or lays down The dog squatted didn't even sit down all the way and he was looking at the officer the entire time
M4 did great staying calm, locking his car and windows, asking reasonable questions, recording the event, and following up the legal actions! Best of all, M4 clearly said several times that he did not consent to the search!
An ex officer told me once that some cops would put drug residue on their glove, then touch the suspects vehicle to make it so the K9 alert to this. Literally dirty cops.
When you see shit like this it's no wonder people are calling for defunding the police. Just because they have a badge and a gun they think they are invincible and can do any thing they want.
Society certainly needs bigger assoles than real criminals but I dont want the traffic assholes treating me like Im a real criminal over a two day expired plate.
@@terryboot7777 Less assholes on the street. Police departments definitely need to have their funding cut to the point that there's only enough of them to execute warrants and they don't have time for harassing people.
I've been in a similar situation, going to Cali for a race from Oklahoma. Got pulled over in Arizona, declined search, K9 brought in and "hit." Have never once had drugs in the vehicle for the 7 years I had it, and observing the dog, it definitely didn't alert.
K9’s have been proven to alert based on absolutely nothing but their handlers micro-expressions and desire to make their handlers happy. A lot of would-be good K9’s quickly get corrupted by bad handlers. A “witness” that’s less reliable than a coin flip should not be admissible any more than a lie detector outcome is…
They dont care they have gotten away with it for so long it dont matter then if something does happen they ha e qualified immunity and still nothing happens to them they have the taxpayers to pay the judgment and they keep on keeping on it wiill never end unless we get rid of qualified immunity
Dude literally is mad because he wouldn't make small talk with him... Small talk that could be used to against him! This is crazy 😂 Get your money big dawg! 🤘🏿
It happens .ore than i care to say. Had PTSD, Siezure, and Anxiety trained dogs put into the pound as their owners where arrested for warrants, drugs ect. It ticks me off owners whiling out their dogs through this junk because of their bad choices. Granted. Skme haooen simply by accident. Had a guy who forgot about his ticket. Did mail in pay, but was stopped for speeding. He was hooked up and brought to jail just pay the fine again to be released. Took 2 hours and a major inconvenience as he was late to work in the oilfield. That job was a love hate thing. My deputy could have simply dismissed it and let it go as it was a class C warrant anyways.
@@brandoncaldwell95 jesus that's awful, I have a service dog but thank god I've never had any major issues like that yet. Only a stupid manager or odd insult. I wish people would do better. Thx for sharing btw.
@@sciencebeartimberwoods7610 and the "dude" representing himself in court against these keystone cops, won and won a $160,000 judgement that should have come out of these pathetic excuse for policemen, pockets.
Ya I got harrassed hardcore in colorado by the sheriff department deputy multiple times in one night while passing through pueblo colorado. If it wasn't for a constable, who only stepped in because I was veteran, It would have been a legal nightmare. All because I pulled over and the truck got stuck in the sand.
It's the same thing in Florida.. Don't have NY plates on your vehicle cause your definitely getting pulled over!! We went there on vacation and ended leaving on probation.. The officer said he pulled us over because our license plate light was out.. We have 2 on our bumper and only one was not working... My wife was arrested for DUI for prescription medication... Never drive your own vehicle, rent one!!
I had a dog hit on my luggage in the Atlanta airport. My mother in law had packed me some steak for supper when I got home. I asked the cop or whatever he was, if he wanted me to open it up. Nope. And I was on my way.
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They broke into his car because of a two day late inspection sticker? I have rescued dogs, a trick dog, agility dog, and a therapy dog. I know dogs do make mistakes.
@@Cinzanos83 What's your deal? AtA needs to eat just like the rest of us, he works hard on his videos and gathers information, case law, etc. to inform the Auditing community on interesting stories, I hope he did make a lot of money but that doesn't change my opinion of him either way, I want good content creators to thrive and the only way many can is with Ads in their videos, if this means we can continue to get content then I'm more than happy to watch a minute ad so we can keep AtA around longer! It's not cops advertising on his channel, so it's nothing that's going to change his objective and subjective reasoning so let the man make some money to stay afloat and stop being sad a content creator gets to make something from their hard work!
Update: M4 sued the city as a result of this false arrest and reached a settlement of $160,000
So cool
@@Capybaraking76 Ever heard of Google?
Fantastic!
This right here, is the best part of these videos. Thank you.
that fine should be paid by the officers who conducted the traffic stop and not the citizens tax dollars. it seems ignorant to have this citizen essentially pay himself for the trouble caused by the officers.
When a K9 unit is called and gets a "hit" and then finds nothing, that K9 unit should be deemed unfit for service and retired.
I hear the police can train their K9s to get false "hits" to search vehicles.
@@Anarchic1989 Naturally. It's just a legal workaround for them to search any vehicle they want at any time by signalling their dog to sit.
@@dexagalapagos That's just bullshit lol.
What would happen if the K9s were declared "unfit" after exposing the car searched to have no drugs? Police K9 units would then PLANT drugs to insure their K9 was NEVER declared unfit...I KNOW FOR A FACT HOW CORRUPT MANY OFFICERS ARE ! ! !
I not only have current and former friends in law enforcement but also a few family members who told MANY stories of police abuse (this was in Philadelphia during the 70s & 80s) including suspects who needed serious medical attention after falling up elevator shafts...yes, up.
@@paulrash7249 OK, I gotta ask, how does one fall up an elevator shaft? It seems to defy the laws of physics.
My dude representing himself and winning what a baller
😎
You keep all of the cash.
@@jeffrejr1 you mean illegal promissary notes that are devalued daily with occult symbolism ,one of them being Moloch ,deity that needs children sacrifice
@@brettmoore3194 Brett Moore I just mean lawyers are the ultimate hustlers. Moloch is a lawyer when in human form.
@Ja Sa the all seeing eye is actually a visual representation of how the eye actually works. The field of view is how they trick us into believing there is a curve
As a teenager, a long time ago, was at a field party when several sheriffs came on the property. They lined us all up and had an obviously old dog walk the line. It alerted to nothing. Most of us had weed in our pockets. We didn't have the heart to tell them that their dog no longer worked.
Lol dkm
Lol
I may be wrong but I thought they were trained to hit on objects and not actual persons. And that is why I’m school they ask people to leave their belongings on the desk along with bags etc.
@@WarPartyFitness So the dog wouldn't be able to detect drugs in a backpack while a person is wearing it, but would suddenly become able to detect them when the backpack is placed on a desk? Unless human beings emit some kind of dog interference pheromone, I'd have to question that logic.
@@adamwillis908 it’s not interference it’s training. If they are trained to not alert on humans they will not hit. It’s probably for the safety of the officer as a person could attack or run if the dog alerts on him.
I am over 70 years old, I have interfaced with police for decades. My experience is that about 75 to 80%of the officers should not be wearing a badge, bullies, thugs, idoits caring guns. These guys fit right in again.....
About my age too. I have posted previously of seeing a police academy class. I thought most of them simply appeared mentally deficient.
This is just the way the govt likes them too.
60+ years.0 positive reactions. I have been put in danger at least three times by office negligence.
thank you sir
larry andrews son you should cast the first stone then .
faultless.
“ If a fast food employee exhibited the same unprofessional behavior, they would be fired immediately “ Ive never heard a statement so accurate. Law enforcement is literally the one of the only fields in which one can act like a complete jerk and get away with it. There are higher standards at McDonalds.
And, with a badge and a gun, they have the power of life and death and imprisonment for innocent people. I grew up in Atlanta and St. Petersburg, Florida with crooked Nazi cops. Even in my own family. Other than a child molester, there is nothing worse than a crooked judge, DA, or cop, who have power over us.
I say that hit all the time... Its like when they shoot the wrong person but deem it okay because they "followed proper procedure". If I didn't note someone's allergy when I put an order in at work It doesn't matter that I put the order in the right way they fuckin die... I know you killed someone but you know how to use the POS.
Lmao look at our president bro
Yep
@@natenav8247 you sir are a asshat.
You know it's bad when a guy can represent himself in criminal court against the police and WIN.
I’ve gone to court and lost several times. Anybody can make a mistake. No big deal.
And they're going to start winning more and more and more and I'm going to see to it I'm starting a company called the pro se law firm and we only get 7% will take you by the hand and walk you through the courts we can't represent you but we can sure give you the tools to show you how to use them and I'm going to help the help a lot of people because 7% is way better than 37%
@@walterknight1550 It is a big deal when it’s costing citizens over 300 million
Ya. Not in West Texas. Jury finds you guilty no matter what. I guess they're all just excited to be part of something. I was foreman on a grand jury once... No matter how shady the case or evidence, EVERY SINGLE brief that was brought before us was approved for prosecution.
Lmao. Now that is funny foreal they went to school for this lol omg
Can you imagine how many hundreds if not thousands of people they've illegally detained and arrested before this video came out.
Fuck Ukraine.
serve and protect has become harass and collect
They only serve and protect corporations. Always have. Always will.
That and sit on there bum and shoo people away.
Long story short I tried to file a report. They refused and kept sending me from department to department.
To insalve and imprison.
@ApplePie That's a real shame. Sorry that happened to you and wish the cops were more helpful to us and those who need them.
Exactly right!!!!
I've had a dog "alert" on my car twice, when I've never had drugs in my car. Shows how accurate those dogs are.
K-9s are trained to show the same alert when the cop wants them to
The dog might not have actually "alerted" as they each respond in different ways . The officer can SAY the dog alerted just to have "reasonable suspicion" and search a car without the owner's permission. With an officer with this attitude you can almost always bet the dog is going to "alert" and your car's going to be searched! And if they're REALLY dirty cops you can bet something you've never seen before is going to be found in your car. There's a video on here that a officer finds a white powder in a plastic bag and says it has tested for cocaine and arrests the man. The substance is sent to the drug lab for verification and it came back powdered sugar from a donut! Come on! Any cop can tell donut crumbs!
Had one hit at a border Patrol checkpoint. They lift dog up into my Semi truck and it ate my cupcakes and jumped down. Officer gave me 10 bux for the cupcakes. Appearently they were the dog's treat for a " job well done."
The dog did it's job.
His owner wanted to search and dog made his master happy.
@Jacob Thompson haha. you are witty
5:50 The officer deployed a K-9 unit claiming "officer safety". I'm sure hundreds of law enforcement officers are seriously wounded by expired license tabs every day.
Very nicely put!!!
"Officer safety" after being asked 2 questions lol.. What a waste of times and resources. Yep we pay for this lol
They do caution against the mentally incompetent having sharp objects. License plates have very sharp edges and thousands die from paper cuts every year, they've really put their lives on the line. Have some respect! 😀🤣😃
@@KamikazeELF forced to pay for even
Yup! Tim Mcvay was caught by a broken taillight. Doesn’t matter the reason for the stop. Comply
Minor offense -- the officers escalated the stop into an arrest. Clear example of Tyrant behavior......Must all be removed from law enforcement.
"What Constitution?" Question from a police man?? I believe he should be fired just for that one statement.
Yeah, like the other commenter said, there are multiple. Each state has its own constitution, as well.
He meant which you dingbat
It’s Buena Vista VA…where they put the “H” in Hick.
And fired for being morbidly obese so unable to perform required duties...
If he needs to know which constitution, he should be fired. Obviously the guy is talking about the 4th Amendment to the United States constitution.
Just admit it cop. Your being rude because he wouldn’t bow down to you.
Isn't that always the case?
Most of them are on an ego trip.
Would you rather be happy, or right?
They don't take those jobs to protect and serve they take it to harass and dominate and hopefully fulfill a kill fantasy. The perks of being able to drive drunk and armed are really limited now but they still have the power to turn the camera off and film only what benefits them. Until the camera is fixed to stay on and be public and available to anyone the corrupt cops are going to prosper and multiply
@@barneybrown7543 you are completely detached from reality. Please don't procreate.
When that officer said "what constitution" is when this went from reality to comedy central
9:15 Officer: "What Constitution?"
Everybody knows that the Constitution is fake news. Just ask Trump all about that "fake" Emoluments Clause. 🙄
@N7_NahNo
Proves the officers are "the enemy" war criminals, enemy combatants, and guilty of treason. The driver should have immediately demanded to go free or shoot the enemy dead. They are guilty of treason.
He did immediately amend his statement to clarify what he obviously meant. Clueless people constantly use the phrase "the law says....", to which the obvious counter-question is "what law?" In this case, the guy used the term "constitution", and the cop instinctively used the question "what ". It's no different than a clerk saying "enjoy the stuff you just bought" then you inadvertently reply "you too!" before realizing that made no sense in context. But really, you just expected them to say "have a nice day" and gave an appropriate reply.
@GeekOfAllness
Oh looky we found the piggy...look at the "copsplaining".
@@watershed44 Sorry that it was necessary to explain the painfully obvious. But clearly there are plenty of people too intent on proving some ridiculous agenda to bother with pesky things like truth or reality.
The dude gets an A+ in my opinion. He did everything absolutely perfectly. I feel like you didn't give him that A+ for his lack of knowledge of the laws because he was legitimately concerned and had no idea if what they were doing was lawful and I wouldn't either. He was calm, challenged their statements but didn't go against anything they said, and when they gave him an ultimatum, he questioned if they were allowed to provide an ultimatum. Though I don't believe he should have questioned the officers as much and I think he should have complied as he puts himself and his dog at risk to these thugs but him questioning them was a legitimate concern and I believe this wouldn't have been taken seriously if he didn't do his due diligence as a citizen and properly questioned these thugs- i mean police officers. I am sure these thugs probably got a slap on the wrist and no actual repercussions though.
Honestly, when I see a poor skinny white man like this driving with his dog being treated like a drug dealer/addict because he's in a cheap car and wearing a beanie, these police officers do not portray themselves as anything more than thugs and bullies with guns.
All that, but imagine the dude is black.
Doesn't matter what he's wearing, doesn't matter what his car looks like, and suddenly there's a drastic increase in the odds of someone being arrested (or worse) for aggravated eye-rolling and public displays of disagreement.
@@exarch404 stats do not support your claim.
Drug laws need to go. All drugs need to be handled like alcohol. This is dumb
@@exarch404 My God, trust someone to turn it into the oppression olympics.
@@SavageRoosterOnThaLooster hhah ahhh yes they do!! Maybe not fox opinion stats but obviously those are not based on realty’
You're right. "it is irrational for officers to expect citizens to unquestionably bend to their will" and yet every officer wants you to
And so do many citizens who believe that if you don't comply, you deserve to die.
nazi pigs
For this young man to be charged with obstruction is ridiculous. He was incredibly polite and not once did he say he was refusing to do anything asked of him. At most, he said "under duress". This officer was way out of line. Reading his police report, you'd think this young man had to be dragged out of his car at gunpoint.
“Every” implies all. That vast generalization isn’t helping.
Police need to be seriously defunded and scaled way down
M4 released a video showing his settlement was $160k
Damn, let me go get pulled over real quick.
good for him
Link please?
Hopefully, he didn't blow it on boats and hookers.
@@goodone8041 And even if he did, all that would happen is he would be left exactly where he started.
False alerts should come with consequences.
Diji, there was absolutely no reason for this. Not only was the search unwarranted, they taught the dog to lie.
@Larry Chandler Yep.
Thay DO. You have to file the charges or nothing happens.
Then the police would plant drugs to make sure theres never a false alert
@@mrandersen6872 Yeah, man am I glad I live in a city where for the most part the police aren't corrupt. And they're pretty damn lenient tbh. And somehow they keep the gang and criminal activity to a minimum.
I've had a dog alert on my and they ultimately found nothing. After an hr or so on the side of the road with 5 cops, I ended up getting some bs ticket for having an out of state license after living there for 30 days. When I went to court the judge actually called on me ahead of everyone and told me I could just leave. Apparently he read whatever report and saw it for the crap it was.
Good !!!
"What Constitution?"
The one you swore to uphold and protect.
Hang all traitors. Sic semper tyrannus
I'd like to think that the cop was smart, and he was asking as the state or federal constitution. That's probably not the case.
"What constitution?" Clearly the officer is large enough to qualify as his own principality.
Right, where a written constitution doesn't exist, just the mood of the tyrant.
Mans his own country
@@mkp1214 He is kind of large.
🤣😂
Did you order a Large Farva?
Officers like this are a disgrace to the badge.
All officers are disgusting
@@tesseract1877 I was about to comment the same thing.
Still waiting for someone to show me IN THE CONSTITUTION the dog exception to basic fourth amendment rights. I'll wait.
@Kolya-The-Vodka-Guzzler
Wow you're STILL one of the only people that gets it!
The police are an UNconstitutional illegal standing army and also violate their oath. That makes them war criminals, enemy combatants, traitors, and guilty of treason. The penalty is death by hanging.
This day and age they are all a disgrace
"It is irrational for officers to expect citizens to unquestioningly bend to their will"
*Best quote of the video* 💯
This guy is lucky they didn’t plant the drug in his car. It is not uncommon.
Corrupted pigs only want to destroy normal ppls lifes. They are uselesw to get any real crimminals
he's white
@Google LIES 2 f u There's a good movie from 1989 called "An Innocent Man" starring Tom Selleck. It's about crooked cops who plant drugs on people in order to obtain a "bust." The clothing and hairstyles may be dated, but the movie is worth a look.
@@brittanylawless680 I assure you cops don't give a fuck what color you are
@ALex Klassing True, but I think it's a good movie
I have a lot of respect for this guy...he genuinely seemed like a nice guy and didn't behave like an idiot. I hope he makes them pay.
And his dog was so well trained and behaved lol. They were both perfect gentlemen about it.
@panda44r the unfortunate reality is that is the tax payer's money.
@@kabloosh699 And the department says he acted within guidelines. Standard line. Makes me want to vomit.
Regrettably, that's taxpayer money and not from the officer's own loss.
It seems like he knew that everything the police were doing was wrong and used that in his favor.
Those cops seem like they had the mentality of
"We stopped him, We need to find something or provoke him to do something just so we can get an arrest"
slow days in bum fuck nowhere, gotta get their jollies somehow...so glad it ended in a nice big payout for the guy and his sweet little pup!
@@ShadyS-2012 These dumbSh!t pigs (no offense to honest and servant officers) do not care one iota about costing the city / county / state the settlement amount, or for that matter, any payout. They justify their power trips with their egos. In their eyes, this guy was guilty before the dog arrived. Officer had no probable cause in that the young man reeked of drugs, alcohol or displayed any other signs of illicit / illegal activity. Cops like this are losers and give good cops bad reputations.
I don't think they had that mentality. But there are ways to go about "sticking up for your rights". This guy thought he knew the law, but didn't, and his behaviour certainly dind't help the situation. i.e. the locked container bs, not winding his window down, and the manner in which the questions were asked didn't help the situation.
The police can ask you to exit the vehicle. You not winding your window down to talk, or to make it difficult to talk is a sure way to actually get pulled out.
He could have asked the police, "are you asking, or ordering me to?" (rather than a particularly wordy, and what to most would seem as an antagonistic refusal under the guise of a question) at which point he would have probably gotten an answer and then he should have opened it. As has been stated before, the street is not where you argue the legitimacy of an order, or police conduct, it's in the courtroom.
He wasn't up on the law, because if he were he'd know that a K9 alert gives probable cause to conduct a search warrantless. And that the SC ruled that the boot is part of the vehicle and that now that it had progressed to a full search that the boot was now able to be searched.
@@ShadyS-2012 What was the payout?
@@PBMS123 “the guy” sued the city for the false arrest and won, he handled everything perfectly
The more I watch ATA, the more I’m convinced the police are given too much discretion under the law. There needs to be clear and defined boundaries for the police to interact with average citizens. I think the most annoying thing about this interaction was that the cops stood there looking like M4 was wasting their time, when they were the ones who prolong it.
The cop who stopped him is a local "star" in that area and he's been well known for harassing people for petty things and generally abusing his authority.
Do you know this to be true?
@@Shogomockid Based on this video do you know it's not? He's guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion.
If so his chief should be fired and prosecuted as an accesory to his crimes. Both are traitors to America and our laws
@@erichkorman710 its called the thin blue line also 6 weeks of training to be a cop ... without a rather in debt psychological evaluation of the candidates CRAZY..
@@PaulDo22 you mean in the court of officer opinion.
They knew he didn't have drugs so they made up a charge to justify stopping and searching his vehicle.
Corruption.
The stop was legal. He didn't have a current sticker on his vehicle. Everything else came from the fact that he questioned their authority. These officers should be suspended and retrained before they are allowed to go out on the streets again.
So I researched into this case, and the settlement was, it looks like, for $160,000, according to the headline from an online VA Lawyers Weekly article. Let's just appreciate that this Officer Hogan cost his city an amount that's worth over 22,000 of work to a minimum wage worker in VA in a single incident because of his carelessness, impatience, and disregard for the law in regards to other people's rights. 22,000 hours is over 900 days, so if somebody worked minimum wage 24/7 for 900 days, they still wouldn't have made enough themselves to pay off Officer Hogan's blunder.
VERY nice! I think that amount was justified.
This again is why people HATE the police. Too many are thugs with a badge. All these ;police here should be fired.
I wish you would have supplied a link to what you found. $160K is a rather high payout - seldom seen for even violent unlawful arrests.
Perspective is a powerful thing. Thank you.
So, they have to pull over and write a bunch more tickets to generate an extra $160,000.
Were any of the officers involved fired?
I can't believe they arrested this guy because they were upset they didn't find anything
They do it all the time. There is nothing more frail then the average cops ego.
If any officer searches your vehicle because a K9 makes an alert and finds nothing, that K9 should be relieved of any future drug sniffing duties forever and the police sued for invasion of privacy.
I think this would end them queuing the dog to react. For those who think they hit on the smell of old drugs, isn't it true most American one dollar bills have residue on them?
Excellent idea. 👃👃👃
@NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 OMG you may be right, good thought.
@NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 True
@terry waller You actually trust the word of the cops to not falsify a "hit" or "alert" by the K9 because they don't like citizens refusing to comply with infringements on their rights?
@terry waller if you watch enough of these videos, you will see there are plenty of cases that clearly show the cops stating the dog made a hit, when in fact it was false or the cop used the excitement of the dog as a hit and probable cause to search the ........
Officer safety is not grounds for probable cause to search a vehicle.
They are 9bviously on drugs or have serious mental issues
Actually, police can "frisk" (protective sweep) areas of the motor vehicle where a weapon can be hidden (i.e. center console, glove box) with only reasonable suspicion.
@@assdkasdjfidsajfdsi3 didn't you just watch the video?
@@darinjones9959 Michigan v. Long, 463 U.S. 1032 (1983)
@@assdkasdjfidsajfdsi3 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Why hasn’t this channel gained a lot of news attention of all the bad or right with law enforcement. Thank you for having a channel like this.
Because this channel is the only police interaction channel (that I know of) that isn't posted by the citizen in the video, and presents an unbiased, logical and unemotional view of what is happening. This form of presentation encourages the viewer to listen to, and easily comprehend the content without getting defensive. Of course there will aways be some that refuse to understand and learn, and those people are just a lost cause.
Because all news media
are pro law enforcement.
They only cover violent
interactions between police
& the public.
The media is just as corrupt
as police departments.
@@Logan-or5qw damn straight!
Police cameras are perhaps one of the best things to happen in recent years
Still think it should be automatic dismissal of court case and jail time if an officers camera is interrupted or turned off at any time
@@devenmacintosh4124 That would just mean it’s better to attack the police officers camera
“It’s yes or no”
This is the language of cops who are excited and have you near cornered. When they start speaking like this you are in danger.
Ol' Boy represented himself and still got it dismissed! BEAST!!!
These cops had motives beyond the stop. A bad inspection doesn't give any right for this nonsense
@NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 velcom to nazi Germany.
the fact that Hogan had a break in kit in his trunk gives that away. a break in kit in his trunk????????
@NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 Plus they have outsourced the training of the K-9's so the Officer is now trained by a 3rd party on how to handle the poorly trained (by others) dog. These searches should be required that 100% of the search is videotaped. So that Expert Witnesses for the defense can review the tapes for inconsistencies. Like giving the dog subtle commands to alert when there is no proof that there is anything there.
@NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 that's true but he had no right taking him out of the car to begin with, which would have stopped the rest until or if the dog signaled. It was the first violation of his rights that lead to the reat
NotoriousProfessorChaos #99669966 ya know he could had had a tiny touch of drugs on his hands or fingers and when he pointed to the driver side door he could had just briefly touched it, just enough for the scent of the drug to make him signal.
I can't believe they arrested the dog and put him in dog jail.
Haha! That cop just cost the department 160,000. Sad for the taxpayers, I just signed the change. Org petition to get Hogan fired.
Where’s the link
Link please?
yeah actually I'd also like to know where to sign for that.
What happened to his dog? Was he able to get him back before shelter killed it?
Guler Ozgenc the answer to your question was provided in the video
So they never found drugs? So they lied about the dog.
They always lie about the dog.
Well to be fair they may not have lied, k-9 units are just not very reliable in general.
Considering where the dog alerted (the door handle) it may be the case that M4 does use a drug of some kind but just doesn't have it in his car or on his person, so his hands dirty with drugs may have dirty'd up the door handle with drugs and that is what the dog was alerting to. It's just weird that the dog didn't alert anywhere else except for the door handle.
@@Arjay404 Or the dog is more intelligent than you think given its previous experience.
@@Arjay404 Or, givem the name M4, which is the designation of a rifle, maybe he is a recreational shooter and had gunpowder residue. Or maybe it was legal CBD oil. There can be many reasons besides "drugs on his hands". My dad was a K9 officer and dog trainer. Dogs will alert for any number of reason including just to be told "good boy". They can be trained to alert... just to alert so cops can behave like we see above and use them as an excuse.
When a court case has been thrown out the officer in question should be fined for misuse of the badge
Officers need to carry liability insurance. If they are found guilty of anything while on the job, their insurance should pay out and there should be a high deductible.
@@oregondude9411 sorry, but i have ti but in on this.
As a dispatcher, i had the option fir the insurance. Yearly cost was $5,000 out of a $35,000 income. Lets not forget taxes which is 20%. That does not include the other odds and end of dental, vision, healthcare, Social Security, unemployment ect.
$35kx20%=$28k
$28k-$5k=$23k
(Odds and ends)
Take home of $21,000
Thats $1750 a mount or $875 biweekly. Keep in mind, this is needed to live on which you simply cant in my area. The pathetic part, thats the highest paying job as a grocery store is only $1000 a month income..
With that said, the deductible its plenty high enough. Its not even insurance to say the least, but lawyers when required. The county/city pays for the end settlement not the officer. He does get reprimanded and it states on fike that transfers to every department he gets employed at. If a large enough hit, it goes to state files against his peace officer license.
@@brandoncaldwell95 others do it,so can you
They SHOULD be charged with Corruption. That should carry minimum 7 years.
For sure....
I’d be most upset that the good boi had to go to the shelter, even for a few hours. Poor baby, that was probably traumatic.
That's what pissed me off the most. Taking away the guys freedom is bad enough, but sending the dog to a shelter instead of allowing a family member to come collect it? Go fuck yourself for that one.
How does M4 not get an A+? I think he's one of the most calm and collected featured civilians I've seen out of all the vids. He admits that he's not a legal expert and asks reasonable questions throughout. Most individuals don't have caselaw or other jurisprudence expertise. Exemplary behavior.
i agree
That's something m4 would say on their own behalf... hm...
He had no clue what his actual rights were.
The grade of A was an error and has been upgraded to A+.
@@MrDesertPinhead how can you get an A when you have no idea what the answers to the test are?
"What's the Constitution?" OMG, what a waste of skin - all of them. Typical cop behavior...
“I don’t need your consent” you say that to your wife too, officer?
If your wife says no, and you continue then a rape has actually happened.
@@playgroundofsound7683 go fuck yourself
Or his boyfriend😂
Nope - she runs the home, that's why he must use his 'authority' while he's away from home
@@esreimi 🙄
imagine someone asking you a harmless question and your first logical thought being “im gonna arrest this man and possibly ruin his life”
I spent 13 years training narcotics and explosive detector dogs for the military. Watching these type videos utilizing "drug" dogs is appalling. So many of these handlers seem to only have a basic knowledge of how to conduct a search, and many of these false responses you see are caused by the handlers either talking the dog into it or maintaining eye contact with the dog, which causes the dog to respond to please the handlers. It's quite obvious that civilian k-9 teams are not tested properly to ensure the teams ability to find any substance is kept at a high percentage.
I hope you see my response in 2020 yes it's old at this point. I suggest the idea to you that if you are a proper trainer and k ow tat this is wrong you must stand up for what is correct. Do not post your knowledge and stop there. As Americans we are all supposed to uphi!d the Constitution. You have a duty as a subject matter expert to CORRECT these problems as much as you can!
Dude will be sending you a subpoena for your testimony in his civil case. Thank you for your time.
Please. Stop. The notion that this is just a result of 'poor' training is somewhat ambitious, sir. It is largely intentional. If it were just for poor training you wouldn't be getting the desired responses that the police prefer. This is intentional. So...just providing 'proper technique' is intellectually dishonest. That 'too' can easily be corrupted for corrupt ends. In fact, it is likely that these clowns 'were' trained properly and you are seeing the devolved form that the police required for their purposes. Naiveté is simply an obsolete response to the world we live in.
@@i.m.9918 - the person said:
>It's quite obvious that civilian k-9 teams are not tested properly to ensure the teams ability to find any substance is kept at a high percentage.
This statement is clearly pointing out that it is likely that the training is kept minimal/poor for the intent of maintaining a high percentage of unlawful searches under the guise of legality. They just said it with different words than you.
Check, LOD. Perhaps a bit precipitous on my part. The outrageous presumption and abuse of these badged clowns is perhaps eroding my reserve.
These kind of cops need to lose their job and pensions
No, they need to loose their lives. Government officials abusing their power and braking the law should be treated as terrorists. Because that is what they are.
@@andrzej2501 same with politicians. Aaaaand now I'm on a hit list :)
@@andrzej2501 agreed
@Micheal Mouse you right cause we live in a racist society
They need to be done up like Marie Antoinette, in front of an audience
Cop: "What Constitution" - and he's dead serious.
They are not trained in the Constitution and often are trained to arrest you if you mention it. Not that they know what it is. They spend more time training them to kill you and get away with it than they do Constitutional rights. The very word Constitution being mentioned in a stop diminishes your chances of surviving the harrassment stop.
Well although I think this whole thing is stupid on the police officers behalf, I believe he was asking wether M4 was asking about the U.S. Constitution or the state constitution.
WHAT CONSTITUTION..?? WTF? Is that dude still an Officer?
I can’t lie. That was funny.
That’s scary
Even when the charges are dismissed you still have to come up with the money for the tow, the impound and the fees for getting your dog out. Plus the time you missed work. I've never heard of them giving that money back without an additional court case.
Their dogs are trained to make false positive detections
Not exactly, there’s just faults with the dogs detecting something simply bc they want to please their owner
Yes, giving them reasons to harass people.
@@joj4541 Yeah it's a fault in the nature of training dogs in general. To train them to indicate that they have detected a particular scent, they must be rewarded upon doing so. In the field this then can result in false positives given that theyre used to a positive being rewarded
I had food trash in my work truck an was told that the dog had a hit.
@@coolnoah8183 they're rewarded even if they don't detect anything
“Did you tell him to alert”?
“No I did not”! (Closes his eyes because he can’t even look at him while he lies straight to his face.)
This man knows the law. He's getting them to answer questions he already knows the answer to so he can collect. Nicely done! They are systematically writing the cheque and adding zeros to the amount.
This was one of the best real life situational videos I seen in a long time and an accurate account of what can and dies go down. Thanks for sharing.
Driver -"what if I don't consent?"
Cop - "You don't have........ I mean you don't..... that's not part of it"
BP, that says it all, uh?
"wwwhaaat... trying to retain your personal freedom in a police state? That's not part of it!"
@@SMPKarma I love your profile picture... true liberation!
@@gallifreyandefense didn't even need to see the profile picture to see a true libertarian because of the term "police state"
@@gallifreyandefense Anarchy leads to eventual tyranny.
They're not looking for drugs. They're looking for cash. This is "for profit policing"
yep
Yep. Its been well documented.
@Rando I guess you haven't heard of asset forfeiture or how many cases where large amounts of money is taken and your forced to prove it wasn't obtained illegally
@Rando I'm worried you might not be joking...
@Rando People transport money all the time. There was a case where a guy had his life savings in his pickup truck (not much, like ten thousand dollars) and was going to purchase a vehicle in cash. Cops stopped him on a minor violation and, without finding drugs, seized the money on suspicion of it being related to drug trafficking, because he couldn't produce a bank receipt on the spot for it. Had it taken and didn't have the money to pay for a lawyer to get it back. You need to pay for the lawyer because you aren't being charged with a crime, so no right to a public defendant.
Asset forfeiture brings in billions of dollars a year to police departments, much of it from people without resources to fight it.
There should be a way to decommission a dog that gives false flag. This would render the animal useless and reduce this type of abuse
They give the k9 a signal to alert. They are trained that way. Creates probable cause and they can search ur car.
catlady RN
I’m saying someone should get a lawyer and petition the court to declare this dog decommissioned, since it gives false alerts.
I agree
It's not the dogs fault though. They are trained to give false alerts. If this dog were dismissed, the same thing would happen with the new dog. The problem is systemic and dismissing the dog will not change that systemic problem
Sense008
I disagree. The dog is useful for SWAT and VERY expensive. If it were decommissioned for a civil rights violation case they would quit this practice
This is retaliation for not answering the cops questions.
I love that he fought it in court AND WON!!!!
you can beat the rap but you cant beat the ride.
Still went to jail had his car towed prob paid for it and his dog in the shelter. All this should be compensated. If not its a lose in the end.
Me too. Cop should lose his job and police certification.
Won what? Cop isn’t punished. He still went to jail. His dog was taken and separated from him put in a strange shelter. His vehicle was towed. He had to invest time and money into fighting the arrest.
None of it compensated. He didn’t win he just lost less then others.
@@jeremiahcaples963 If the whole process was illegal, the city will refund the amount of money that u paid, at least that's what AtA said in many of his vids
I’ve trained every dog I’ve ever had. I can tell you with 100% certainty that dogs are people pleasers. If they figure out there’s a reward, even a pat on the head, they will exhibit a behavior to get their reward. The dog knows if he alerts he gets praise, so he’ll alert every single time if the handler rewards them. Nothing complicated about it.
A K-9 got a false hit on my car once and after two cops tore my vehicle apart, the arresting officer told me “well you had something in there before.” Never had any kind of drug in that car the entire time I owned it. Had it towed and I was charged $25 a day but I wasn’t allowed to get my car back until 30 days had passed. So I was getting charged everyday even though I was ready to get it day 1. Land of the free!
Should've sued or made a case
I would have got the car out drove it right into the station and set the car alight and deal with what was coming after I am wrath and will not be fked over with out some payback and that's the bottom line
Montevallo police department in Alabama pulled this on me. I forwarded their revenue scam to the alabama department of revenue and got the chief to resign and alot of cops fired. Fast forward a few years montevallo police got caught in another scam and is no more. Very telling of the integrity of our so called "sheepdogs" as they like to call themselves. I suggest you fight back but do it smart. Don't file a complaint with them. Take it to someone higher that could get a nice promotion from someone else's downfall. This is the only language these thugs speak.
@@mucura1 what "scam" did you report? Just them using k9s to access a vehicle?
@@taylormcgill6643 They specifically targeted Latinos or illegal immigrants in a series of unlawful stops with sole purpose to impound vehicles then charge a ridiculous price to get their vehicles back. Tow company gave them their cut. Going as far as keeping some of the cars and selling them at auction. You will be hard pressed to find any reporting of the event but people who lived there know. Chief of police Sutherland. I went to school with his son when the shit went down.
He was arrested for not helping the police search his car??? What is wrong with these people?
You know there's a problem when cops are finding way to circumvent rules that are to protect people from unlawful searches.
You mean attempt to or actually succeeding in subverting the laws for which they took an undeniable oath to uphold, then yes.
This is the Hoax police are today. Traitor chiefs around the country say their number one priority is the safety of their officers. They are not only wrong but accessories to every crime commited by cops. These are criminals violating rights as spelled out in our constitution of laws they have never read. We need a shakeup that teaches them fear of police is not respect. Respect can only be earned; nobody repects these thugs, their accesory traitor chiefs or the criminally coward prosecutors who ignore crimes by law enforcement. Any crimes by anyone in these positions should recieve mandatory minimum jail sentences like they advocate for the citizens they SERVE
We are on our way to becoming the USSA
It's not uncommon. Victors found a way to circumvent Geneva Convention prisoner of war rules.
And when they can’t find valid reasons, the law presents enough loopholes to allow them do do this ish
I’m still baffled by the fact that a free air sniff by a dog can invalidate your rights to unlawful search and seizures. This is a dog, the same animal that’s famous for licking its own butt. Yet the dog is granting access, something even a judge won’t do without probable cause or evidence.
Then we have the fact that these dogs are typically wrong. I don’t know the numbers but if cops stop 100 cars and the dog alerts on 73 of those cars, but then of those 73 alerts contraband is only found 23 times.
There’s never any record of those 50 times the dog was wrong and those people had their rights violated unnecessarily. Instead the thin blue line gang privilege gets extended to the dog, by the officers always claiming that there was drugs there, but they either couldn’t find them or they had been moved. It’s never a consideration that the dog was wrong.
But wouldn’t statistics like that be very significant for to a lawyer defending a citizen accused of drugs after the results of the dogs sniff?
Lie detector tests are not admissible in court because they are so often wrong. So why is a dog that is wrong way more often than not deemed ‘reliable’?
The dog is just another revenue generating tool. A way to circumvent the constitution. A way to get people charges. The more people charged, the more revenue for the system.
Yeah we need a serious nationwide reconsideration of the practical applications of police dogs
Drug dogs false alert 80% of the time. Truly astonishing that any court has upheld that they are legitimate.
@@andrewmaddennn courts are always reluctant to get rid of anything that helps police because of concerns that they will catch less bad guys
My organization that I’m apart of decided to bring in dog trainers to show the kids the dogs and their behavior, they pulled out a dog named “speedy” and said he was training to be a police dog, they also said “speedy” got a Kong as his reward for finding stuff. “Speedy” started alerting to thin air and just alerting everywhere to get his reward, and they actually gave it to him!!
People are under the notion that dogs have some keen sense of smell. They dont they are trained to find the smell of narcotics but if something else has the same smell they are going to alert. Unreliable.
Those police officers, especially officer Hogan, make me sick.
All fucking tyrants need a revolution on them
Just another reason why you should
always film your interactions with
the cops.
If we all stood together against these
unjust encounters, then maybe it
will change how cops treat us.
"I don't want to - are you forcing me?" - "lright, he's not going to unlock the door..." - that's a federal felony, right there. He is lying under color of law to abuse a citizen.
“It is irrational for officers to expect citizens to unquestionably bend to their will”. Absolutely true.
This officer should be fired, he would have made a good Nazi.
And yet officers do expect citizens to unquestionably bend to their will because of their egos and power trips.
It won't stop until police are help personally liable, financially & criminally. Of all citizens, police are held to the lowest standard. It's absolutely disgusting 🤮.
Did they find any drugs?
That is the most absurd part. They accuse the citizen of something and while this original accusation turns out to be completely wrong, the citizen still gets arrested for "obstruction of justice".
They need a law for cops that gets them fired for "spontaneous evidence production" or something like that.
Yeah he was arrested for contempt of cop that's all these clowns are pieces of s***
@@couldntmixapotnoodle ..
No. He is an amazing 1A auditor. The name of his channel is James Freeman.
Evertime
This stuff enrages me. I have worked with k9's for a long time and that dog did not alert. Dogs respond quickly and strongly to scent as that is their primary sense. The dog reacted to scent on the driver door handle which was probably a reaction to the driver's dog's scent and/or food/treats. It was a complete fishing trip. They don't like it when there's no crime being committed so they go looking for something they can turn into a crime. On a professional level these guys are criminal. On a personal level these guys are bullies and just garbage humans.
Well said
I cannot agree more!
100% true and correct
I'm not mad, I'm happy. The system worked. M4 is significantly richer for his troubles. The only thing I want to know is what kind of disciplinary action if any did the idiot cop face?
They are bullies.
If you want to get arrested then make $100,000s say these two phrases "I don't consent" and "I'm going to sue your department." Officers will immediately then treat you draconically and do everything they can to incriminate you, further increasing the chance you make crazy money when you do inevitably sue them. Petulant children.
Always file for RESTRAINING ORDERS as these cops will want revenge.
All of this happened because he wouldn't tell the officer where he was coming from. A question that should have never been asked. It's irrelevant to the traffic stop.
wv does same crap with inspection stickers especially wv state police ,they also check unintended vehicles in parking lots
yonder
@Guido Hahaha I always say, "just driving around."
cop; where ya going?
guy; your moms house
@Lars Peanish, professional gift wrapper. You are so right. Absolutely no reason to make sure ANY car driving down the road has functioning brakes or working lights.
I live in Virginia as well and this happened to me. My friend was driving and speeding. The policy officer was a k-9 unit that pulled him over. There were no drugs in the car. I was 17 and I smoked my grandma's cigarettes. They were unfiltered pal malls (gross I know but you do what you got to when you're 17). The packs we're paper and tobacca fell out of the packs and lined the inside of my backpack. They said the dog hit on my back pack and said there was trace amounts of weed in the tobacco. There absolutely was not. The officer wanted to have me prosecuted as an adult since I was a month away from being 18. They sent the tobacco to be tested at a lab and it came back negative for any drugs and nothing happened. I was a horrible experience.
So sorry you had to go through that 😔
They went out of their way to give a 17 year old a criminal record for a trace amount of weed.
That's bullying.
it came back negative for any drugs? So it didn't have nicotine in it?
I'm being a smartass here, but my point is to show how arbitrary the drug laws are in our society. Cancer-inducing tobacco (with nicotine)? Go ahead. Liver/brain/kidney/heart/etc-rotting alcohol? Why not!... Physically close-to-harmless drugs such as cannabis, some weaker opioids, tryptamine/lysergamide-esque psychedelics etc - OMG the world is going to end.
All. Drugs. Have. To be. Legalized and regulated so as to remove black markets, focus on treatment instead of imprisonment, and general personal freedom. When a state tells you that alcohol, a drug which is more harmful than heroin or meth, is fine, while criminalizing the rest... are you actually free, or are you a subject to hierarchy whose main goal is to make you into a complacent drone for the capitalist interest?
@@SMPKarma 100% Agreed
@@andreroy8141 thank you. I actually expected to receive a lot of backlash for going against the grain here. But yes, seeing as alcohol is a much more toxic drug than hard drugs such as heroin and meth, and is regarded by experts in the field as having comparable addictiveness and negative social effects (physical violence due to drunkenness, missed work due to hangovers, major healthcare costs due to alcohol-related health issues etc), it is illogical to have different regulations for them.
In the US, they already tried making alcohol illegal and the expected happened - poisonings and overdoses from impure products, black markets and flourishing underground organisations. Mafias of that day made a significant portion of their money/power from alcohol sales. And it's no different now. Cartels killing people in Mexico, users accidentally overdosing on spiked drugs, users ingesting toxic additives? Direct effect of illegality.
Like, look, I don't use such drugs. I wish humans didn't use recreational drugs (barring some useful ones like psychedelics and empathogens). But the reality is that they do, and we need to focus on making it as harmless to the individual as well as the society.
All that for a expired tag...
I hope he sues the cops for everything they've got or ever will have.
toot tall the sad part is if he won it would probably be from taxpayers money 😢
@@eduardovela7170 well, it's like this, while you have to sue the city as well, if the cops broke the law, they lose their liability waiver. You can take their own money, and whatever it takes to settle the judgement, their house, their cars, about anything of value. First you sue file criminal charges, cops always walk on those, that's a given, but in civil court, the cops usually get stung.
@Neila Pasa Ain't sayin that, just that you have to get their personal money too, or what have you taught them, nothing. So long as they think they're protected, they won't learn a lesson. Hell yes, take from the damn city, county or state too, but you gotta get the individuals as well.
@Neila Pasa my preferred system well... can't get away with that these days.
@@tootall5559 Sadly taxpayers lost $160,000 here, that's what they settled for in court. No action was taken against any of the officers involved. It's crazy these cops can do this and just have taxpayers pay for it, I wish taxpayers would pay for my debt and stuff as well....
Was arrested for having "cannabis" in my car when it happened to me back in 2019 and let me tell you. The lawsuit was priceless and got two officers fired from the department on the fact im a medical cannabis patient which they refuse to search up and just immediately detain and threw me in the cell. The officers faces were priceless
Nice one glad to hear you got 2 tyrants of your streets a good cop is a dead cop and if I was in trouble they would be the last twats I would call
Oh man, that must have been a sight to see! Congratulations!
Marijuana is still illegal in all 50 states so that is irrelevant, but if they made an illegal search then they they should be fired. The cops in this video needs to be fired.
@@common_c3nts "illegal in all 50 states"... except the ones where it's legal
@@ajc1080 False, marijuana is illegal in everywhere in the USA.
That is reality. You pretending it is legal does not make it so.
The cop asks, "what Constitution." Lol. Did he ask that question when taking his oath? Smfh.
You are implying he took an oath.. and didnt just sign x at the end of the single page contract he was too lazy to read
@@MarkOfTzeentch ughh why I believe this is what happened sadly :/
Based on the context I’m sure he was asking between the US Constitution or the constitution of whatever state this was in.
He has no idea. He obviously doesn't even remember that he took an oath.
If the cop read this comment, he'd probably ask "what oath?"
Watching tons of these, it seems a very useful question people could ask in response to any officer request/order is "are you asking me, or are giving me a lawful order to do it?" If they say asking, the answer is always no, because if they have to ask, that means that they require consent and cannot order it, so the answer is obviously no. If it's yes, then you always do it, even if you think it's unlawful, and deal with it in court later. If they bark "yes or no" I would think the best response is to cover both scenarios forcing them to answer. in this example, i.e., "if you're asking because you require my consent to search the trunk, the answer is no. if you say it's a lawful order, then I'll open it. if it turns out you're wrong, that will come out in court. if you have the legal right to break into the trunk, then I'm not going to stop you. so you have your answer." If they repeat "yes or no?" then you just repeat everything you just said.
@@sparkyUSA1976 interesting but with cops I think it's simpler. they are always either asking or ordering. you need to know the difference. if you're not sure, ask, and expect them to get pissed off, but hold your ground. if they require your permission, that means they can't make you, which means you have a right (that people fought and died to give you) that says you don't have to and therefore should not, lest you dishonor those who died to give you those rights.
Why are cops still over weight? They’re suppose to be “crime fighters”. If they don’t have the discipline to maintain their weight they need to get off the streets.
That's why the are called P I G S.
hard agree. this is why they gun people down so quickly, they are utterly physically defenseless otherwise. it's shameful.
Wrong. In the US, they just need to stand, scream, and shoot point blank.
Well to be fair a lot of olympic athletes are “fat” but insanely strong. Check out weightlifters, shotput throwers, water polo...
@@Guesswork01 fat and strong isn't going catch a fleeing suspect.
In my experience most cops just want you to shut the hell up and do as you’re told and if it doesn’t go that way they will fish or look for a gray area to trap you.
Very true
A reasonable adult would never expect another adult to shut up and do as they're told. We're not toddlers or pets. Were people who pay taxes that provide them with employment. When they talk to us as such, then they will get the respect they seek.
And even if you are polite, courteous and helpful, they’ll still look for a gray area to trap you.
Walking Man indeed
Yeah, that's S.O.P.
this dude was so chill, I can't imagine what they're like with other people.
4:20 best part is the cop not expecting the guy not to consent and then struggling harder than a toddler to articulate
“My dog did an alert on your car.”
Oldest trick in the book. The dog got a big treat.
Many Scooby snacks, lol!
It is the oldest trick in the book. Dogs will alert on command so if the dog doesn't alert the cop will make it alert.
dog alerted on a same spot where another dog was just minute prior,what a shock.
bet you the dog just smelt the other dog and was like hey buddy
The dog didn't even do a full alert though and alert means the dog makes a full sit or lays down The dog squatted didn't even sit down all the way and he was looking at the officer the entire time
I like this guy, he knows his rights and is calm
M4 did great staying calm, locking his car and windows, asking reasonable questions, recording the event, and following up the legal actions!
Best of all, M4 clearly said several times that he did not consent to the search!
An ex officer told me once that some cops would put drug residue on their glove, then touch the suspects vehicle to make it so the K9 alert to this. Literally dirty cops.
Fire that cop I bet he ruins people’s lives.
That Hogan is no hero!
"What constitution?"
Oh boy…
the donuts was on his mind and the greasey chicken instead of knowing the law
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@leeroger1471 Are you referring to the embarrassingly and severely obese cop?
@@MrThisIsMeToo yes
My next statement would have been, so what Party City did you get your costume from?
When you see shit like this it's no wonder people are calling for defunding the police. Just because they have a badge and a gun they think they are invincible and can do any thing they want.
Society certainly needs bigger assoles than real criminals but I dont want the traffic assholes treating me like Im a real criminal over a two day expired plate.
Anyone legitimately calling for a defunding of the police is a moron, such would only worsen this kind of behavior at minimum.
@@SinnerD2010 I got your moron dude 12'' of it wanna back?
How can defunding help with this?🙄
@@terryboot7777 Less assholes on the street. Police departments definitely need to have their funding cut to the point that there's only enough of them to execute warrants and they don't have time for harassing people.
I've been in a similar situation, going to Cali for a race from Oklahoma. Got pulled over in Arizona, declined search, K9 brought in and "hit." Have never once had drugs in the vehicle for the 7 years I had it, and observing the dog, it definitely didn't alert.
K9’s have been proven to alert based on absolutely nothing but their handlers micro-expressions and desire to make their handlers happy. A lot of would-be good K9’s quickly get corrupted by bad handlers. A “witness” that’s less reliable than a coin flip should not be admissible any more than a lie detector outcome is…
This man said "What Constitution?" Y'all...
To be fair he might have meant state or federal Constitution. Sometimes state constitutions can provide greater rights to the accused.
He said "What amendment?" He knows driver means US. But he didn't connect the dots and know the amendment about searching.
They dont care they have gotten away with it for so long it dont matter then if something does happen they ha e qualified immunity and still nothing happens to them they have the taxpayers to pay the judgment and they keep on keeping on it wiill never end unless we get rid of qualified immunity
That dude has be related to the police chief or mayor.
Pretty sure he meant what amendment and was testing to see if the citizen knew. Still was wrong as settlement showed
Dude literally is mad because he wouldn't make small talk with him... Small talk that could be used to against him! This is crazy 😂 Get your money big dawg! 🤘🏿
"Put his dog in the local shelter" (me contemplating how pissed I am)
It happens .ore than i care to say. Had PTSD, Siezure, and Anxiety trained dogs put into the pound as their owners where arrested for warrants, drugs ect. It ticks me off owners whiling out their dogs through this junk because of their bad choices. Granted. Skme haooen simply by accident. Had a guy who forgot about his ticket. Did mail in pay, but was stopped for speeding. He was hooked up and brought to jail just pay the fine again to be released. Took 2 hours and a major inconvenience as he was late to work in the oilfield.
That job was a love hate thing. My deputy could have simply dismissed it and let it go as it was a class C warrant anyways.
@@brandoncaldwell95 jesus that's awful, I have a service dog but thank god I've never had any major issues like that yet. Only a stupid manager or odd insult. I wish people would do better. Thx for sharing btw.
Well, the dude went to jail. Worrying about the dog might be a bit first world problem like.
@@sciencebeartimberwoods7610 nope. Dogs are like children. Police are corrupt
@@sciencebeartimberwoods7610 and the "dude" representing himself in court against these keystone cops, won and won a $160,000 judgement that should have come out of these pathetic excuse for policemen, pockets.
M4 knows his rights so the officer doesn’t need to explain them. This is the best part of street lawyers they know it all
Cop: "What Constitution?" That tells you all you need to know about this tribe. "You're hindering me." Really?!?
Unfortunately out here in Colorado about 75% of the cops are like this..
go to Colorado on vacation
Leave on probation
Return on revocation! 🤢🤮
Ya I got harrassed hardcore in colorado by the sheriff department deputy multiple times in one night while passing through pueblo colorado. If it wasn't for a constable, who only stepped in because I was veteran, It would have been a legal nightmare. All because I pulled over and the truck got stuck in the sand.
This happened to me in Colorado as well, in the court system.
It's the same thing in Florida.. Don't have NY plates on your vehicle cause your definitely getting pulled over!! We went there on vacation and ended leaving on probation.. The officer said he pulled us over because our license plate light was out.. We have 2 on our bumper and only one was not working... My wife was arrested for DUI for prescription medication... Never drive your own vehicle, rent one!!
Proof? Sources on this?
You can't have a valid k9 alert when there was just a dog in there.
I had food trash in my work truck an was told the dog had a hit of course I had nothing.
I’m sure drug dogs can actually smell drugs. I’m also sure drug dogs are trained to “alert” on command. Don’t trust these assholes at all.
I had a dog hit on my luggage in the Atlanta airport. My mother in law had packed me some steak for supper when I got home. I asked the cop or whatever he was, if he wanted me to open it up. Nope. And I was on my way.