Zelda: Wind Waker HD vs. GCN - Music Head-to-Head Comparison Video
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How does The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD's music compare to that of the original GameCube version? We pitted the two side-by-side in a head-to-head comparison to find out using Windfall Island's theme.
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I prefer the GC version BUT maybe because I have listened that song all my childhood. The new version is pretty good. I like the fact that Nintendo used real instruments, it really sounds awesome.
Awesome! I didn't know they updated the music! Sounds excellent!
How can people prefer synthesized sounds over organic instruments?
The NGC version was a very good piece of synthesized music, but when I came around Windfall Island for the first ime on Wii U, my first words were "Oh, they remade the music with actual instruments! This is so good!"
I'm pretty sure the Wii U version is using MIDIs too...just higher quality. It feels less game-ish though.
I prefer the GameCube soundtrack because it sounds much more consistent with the style and sound of previous games (Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask)
I think it might just be a higher quality recording of the same MIDI. Obviously Kondo and Minegishi would have all their MIDI data backed up or stored somewhere, so it’s possible they dug up the old MIDIs and reassigned the compressed samples to uncompressed versions of the sounds.
They're still midi
As an audio engineer i can really appreciate this move. I'm sure if they put in some of the orchestrated tracks from their symphony of the goddess tour they would've been out of place but remastering the original tracks for higher quality and binaural surround outputs was brilliant idea. I wonder if this will support 5.1 and how that'll sound on such a system.
Omg that flute in there is just so amazing~
The GCN version uses analog Dolby based audio. The Wii U version uses PCM digital audio.
that's not how that works bro
Pretty sure he's comparing direct file rips, the changes of that are only barely noticeable on the consoles
The music was one of the first things I noticed!
I think they remixed it because of the shitty speakers that hdtv's come with nowadays, old crt tv's had better acoustics, as well as more space for the bass to shine.
Isaac Ness you serious? All companies remix their past music in remakes.
there is a thing called headphones or better speakers
Why is this channel so awesome??
I really hope there will be more music comparisons!
The new flute articulations are done very nicely...puts me even thinking, that they might not be samples at all, but then again the interactive nature of Wind Wakers music wouldn't work with just static recording. Perhaps they have really put a lot work into their synthesizer, at least there was also real time effects in some of the new arrangements
I was going to suggest the same mate, I love that theme
I started noticing a difference while fighting the third boss and it became clear to me while fighting the giant birds. They added some weird sounds to it and don't specifically like that one, but overall I'm pretty cool with the change.
It's a new audio mix that gives the music a significantly improved sound. A welcome change regardless what you consider a "remaster".
Wow, I had heard some of the remastered tracks before and thought they were pretty good, but this is a lot better than I expected!
That looks BEAUTIFUL!!!
I haven't heard Dragon Roost, but the Ocean theme and Outset Island theme, going by what I've heard so far, have been greatly improved. :) Much like this, they both have a better audio mix, giving the music a more natural sound. Beautiful!
They both sounds amazing
I love the quality of the new version... It sounds amazing! Can't wait to play this game
The GC one sounds happier D:
I love both versions very much! However, I'd have to agree that the Wii U's version is much deeper and richer and really allows you to hear each individual instrument better.
Fun Fact:
Windfall Island's theme is actually a slightly faster remixed version of Kakoriko Village's theme.
Holy shit I love you Andre! But how do you stay so tuned to find all these things and edit and upload! Do you get any free time for hobbies?
Having never played the original one I have no feelings towards it. I'm definitely liking the Wii U version more, the strings just sound so much brighter and it's overall more vibrant. It does seem that the original does have some more reverb and feels a little more whole.. but with the new graphics and brighter appearance of the game, I think the new music will fit better.
I'm definitely picking up the bundle when it's released.. really looking forward to playing this game.
The Wii U version has much more crisper sounds. I'm looking forward to see what other kinds of other changes they may do to improve the music.
The percussion does seem to be mixed a little low in WWHD, but just from what I hear the song in the gamecube version sounds mono, or flat. Like every instrument is set front and middle of the track while the Wind Waker HD sounds they they took the time to give every instrument some acoustic space.
Brings back memories
I have this song stuck in my head all day and I just realized what it was.
I wasn't expecting such a drastic change, but overall it sounds better. The way the instruments are played makes the track sound much more like something tropical, matching more of the other pieces in the game.
One o the best sound tracks ever + remade version, thats FREAKING AWESOME!
All great tunes...and I must admit, the Zelda soundtracks always have been, and likely always will be, amazing ones! Hopefully, the same will be said of A Link Between Worlds, as well.
The biggest difference I detected with headphones was that the original mix had the percussion panned hard to the sides and the melody instruments were bunched up in the center. This is not typical for most stereo recordings, but I can guess that it might have been done to support more TVs without 5.1 home theater systems. In the Wii U version, the mix was reversed to put the main percussion in the middle and the instrumentation was spread out, which gives a more natural feel to the end result.
Ah, I never thought of that!
Windfall Island is a neat track, along with Dragon Roost Island, Tower of the Gods, and, of course, the sailing theme. Andre, what are your favorite Wind Waker tracks?
This was my game when I was 5 so I personally love the original better but they did a mighty fine job with the new one.
i like both just fine and will enjoy the WW HD remake for sure. but the GC music sample felt more pleasing to my ears in more sections than the other. But i've always liked old video game music alot. Of course this is one quick video swapping between the two.. given more time and hearing them both fully i may change my mind. Either way a good track and excited to play~
HD not only has far better samples(yes in percussion too, they are just mixed lower for better balance), it also has real time effects now, and improved synthesizer allows more realistic articulations.
The improvements on the synthesizer is super exciting for me, as it allows Nintendo to continue to make interactive music, like what Wind Waker has. Music is infinitely more absorbing, when the music follows game play and describes your actions. Check Phantom Ganon fight for example.
OMG IT'S BEAUTIFUL!
I like the GC one more, lol. Just sounds less empty, compared to the HD one.
As a transcriber and game music composer, I must say that I think Nintendo did a really GOOD job remastering this track. I think why so many feel the original is better is because it is what we remember. As for how "empty" the revision may or may not sound, keep in mind that the original is slightly muddier from the sample rate and possibly equalisation, filling in the frequencies more. A clear and crisp sound is generally better, though.
I actually prefer the GC version! :o
I like them both.
now where did you get the hd track? I would love to give it a good listen!
Does anyone know where can I find any music tracks from the HD Version? I'm dying to hear the Boss Themes!
I disagree with popular comment opinion. I prefer the Wii U version, mainly in terms of gameplay.
Can you select it at the beginning or does it unlock when you finished the game once?
When it comes to sound chips, GameCube/Wii has a 16 bit Macronix DSP with 64 ADPCM compressed voices and Stereo base Pro Logic II virtual surround sound while Wii U Has a 32 Bit Macronix DSP with 128 Linear PCM voice's although 64 of them can also be ADPCM for Backwards Compatibility and has 5.1 channel discrete sound sound.
It's not just a theory. If you overlay TWW map on top of the OoT map, you'll see that various landmarks are in the same place. Forest Haven is in the same place as the Kokiri Village, the Deku Trees are in the same place, Windfall is in the same place as Kakariko, etc. :D
When are you doing the review and the game & watch? Some youtubers allready have it.
The percussion part in the gamecube version has more of a punch to it. It's the little details that make the GC one my favorite of the two.
AWESOMEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There both amazing
I love it!!!
and the faster sailing and the more convenient item switching and the much better triforce hunt were you only have to find 3 in the sea and only 3 you have to give tingle to make it readable
Music is really one of these little, yet big thing that make a game.
I can't wait to hear the molgera battle theme.
I like the freshness to the new theme
I asked the rep at PAX, but he didn't know. How do you know where the Tingle Statues are this time around? He DID say you just use normal bombs to reveal them, but how do you know where they are in the first place?
And before anyone asks, I played the original Wind Waker when it came out in 2003, got it for my 13th birthday and I freaking love the game, but now I'm 23 years old and frankly I'm getting sick of people who's decisions on what they think is "better" is based solely on nostalgia and nothing more. This is why I also really hate this "90s kid" phenomena I'm seeing around the internet, it's just sad to see a bunch of people from my generation who can't learn to just move on with life...
Is this game coming out September 20 on virtual console? download? or something?
I really like the upgraded music samples, but they took out some of the percussion samples that made the original so fun and peppy. The new version isn't bad, but the tune doesn't have the same upbeat feel as before.
Where did he get the HD version of the songs? I can't find them anywhere.
It hard to creat interactive music that changed on the fly like for the battle theme's with recorded streamed orchestra. That why on Skyward Sword which had prerecorded orchestra they simply added a simple bland drum beat when close to an enemy instead of an orchestral battle theme cause if this problem.
i didn't know such a great song could get any better.
even if not by much
Windwaker sounds more bassy? More trebble / hollow sound in the HD?
Old is gold. You know which one sounds better
everyone compares the graphics. so really cool that you decided to compare the music! nice idea man! and yes, its one fine music track! great video GameXplain. i recently made an unboxing of the wind waker hd with ganon figure. if you or anyone else wants too see it, enter my channel and see the videogames playlist
The difference here is that this is actually a remake with significant improvements over the original, those collections are just ports with minimal changes from the originals, personally I want to see more like this, I'd love for Nintendo to make HD versions of other Gamecube games like Mario Sunshine, Smash Bros. Melee, and maybe even some third party games like Baten Kaitos and Skies of Arcadia, and speaking of Metal Gear they should make an HD version of Twin Snakes as well.
I love how both hold up (3
That would be great.
i dont expect a lot of music changes.,but, is Dragon Roost a little updated? :3
1:07 that flute is magical
So, since you guys have it early, would you consider maybe uploading the full song from the Wii U version, and perhaps other songs with significant improvements? You'd be the first to do so, and I really like the sound of the Wii U version.
I think the GC definitely sounds better, but the Wii U version is also good (I like the new woodwind instrument samples). If you have time Andre, could you possibly do a few more of these? It's interesting to see how the music has changed.
The HD version sounds more crisp, but also kind of hollow as a result.
The E 10+ rating wasn't part of the ESRB rating until 3 years(2004) later after Wind Waker's release.
Can't wait to get the Wii U version of this game!
Does anyone know if they changed dragon roost island's music at all?
I like it. Makes me feel nostalgic. :"D
I like the new version of OutSet Island. The flute sounds beautiful!
I think the music in the hd remake actually fits better with the scenery. The original music kinda stands on its own and fits the tone of the island, and in the hd remake the music fits with the visuals and the calm feeling and tone the island has.
That was cool
Also for everyone complaining, they only made a remake in order to fill the long time that it will take to make a new wiiu Zelda. Idk about you but when I hear a good remix of a nostalgic song I feel even more nostalgic than hearing the original i.e. brawls remix of stickerbrush symphony
Well, Windfall Island's theme is a remix of the Kakariko Village theme if u listen
Man I'm actually glad they redid some of the music. It's not a half assed thing like Ocarina of Time 3D where they just bumped the midi.
I like how the Banjo sounds in the HD version and that the Drum doesn't pound my left ear.
I must admit, I much prefer the sound of the original version. It just has a much cheerier, upbeat tone to it.
The Wii U version seems to have crisper instrument sounds, though the mix they're using (or perhaps the equipment they're playing it through) sounds a bit muffled, in my opinion. It's as if the mid-range is far too present, and the instruments can't ring out as much as they should, even though they're trying so very hard to do so. The instruments themselves, if you can pick them out individually, sound far greater than before.
I cannot for the love of god wait for this game! I've always wanted to play this game, but I don't have a GameCube and my Wii stopped reading discs :( Luckily, I have a Wii U to play this beastie!
Can't wait for wind waker hd :D
BTW i saw a comment of urs saying ur 10 zelda games and it showed wind waker at 6.!can u explain that please?because if u hate wind waker i whould of exepted it to NOT be on such a list =I
The instrumentation is the same, but with the improved mix there are one or two instruments that come through better. It's a much better sound, and it makes me extremely happy. :)
I really want this game because i never beat the first and a wii u would be cool, but i might not see myself getting one until next year maybe
is there any other big differences other than just music and graphics?
Never played this game (I was like 8 when it came out and by the time I got into Zelda, we were like a year away from Skyward Sword) so I'm super exicted for this. I'm going to try to get the Wii U bundle, but I won't get it till x-mas. Does anyone know if there's a time frame for downloading the game after purchas, because I don't want to wait until x-mas to try and download it and find that it, like, expired or something (nothing would surpise me, honestly)
Still love it though
When Super Smash Bros. borrows music directly from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, the GCN version is used for that.
Gamexplain, do you perfer this version, or the classic?
How much does it cost in Brazil currency compared to US and CAN dollars?
The Wii U version sounds more pirate-like and seems to give you a more robust feeling of adventure than the GCN version. I know there will be a lot of purists out there who will not like the Wii U version as much, and I was actually on the same boat for a while until I looked more into it. There is one thing I know for certain...I'm going to have twice as much Wind Waker music on my MP3 player now!
Yeah, I'm going to need a dragon roost island mix ASAP.