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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2016
- See how the Wii U port of Zelda: Twilight Princess stacks up against the original release on GameCube and Wii. TP HD's normal mode is based off the GameCube version of the game. Hero mode is based off of the Wii version, so the graphics are flipped to make Link right handed.
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The textures look great in the remaster, but the lack of any polygon upgrades make the textures stick out in a bad way.
Agreed.
Oh so true
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True. In fact, the "blurriness" of the GC version, kinda hide the polygons. HD, in exchage, made 'em more visible.
I literally can still see that link's arm is still a rectangle
Of course it is better but Nintendo could have done a lot more
+angel2901 Did a hell of a lot more than most companies that do HD releases.. This looks like they're redone the textures for the most part.
+Alex Hartley you don't see it now, but if you go back and play the Wii or GameCube version you'll see how jagged and blurry everything looks, not to mention the god awful anti-aliasing. There are plenty of improvements.
+Michael Wadsworth Yeah but i think what the other guys were trying to say was that its no windwaker hd
+angel2901 For a remaster this is as good as it can get. If you were expecting a remake thats another story.
+Andreas Kalvet Wind Waker definetely looked stunning. Then again, I wonder if it's not because of WW's cel-shaded style, which ages a lot better, as even IGN mentioned in one of their videos.
Wind Waker HD, Skyward Sword HD, Twilight Princess HD for the Switch
Another Twilight hd? Don't think so
Noe Cases porting
ScrubMaster64 and NOW!
Twilight and windwaker gets ported from gamecube to wii u to switch, thatd be actually kinda cool since everyone has thrown away there wii u already
I fucken wish🤧🤧🤧
This will happen to Skyward Sword in 5 years, I'm sure.
+sonicbluray or 2
+sonicbluray true I have been thinking that it will happen soon
+nudl3Zz All Nintendo remakes are from games that are, at least, 10 years old. So no, SS will not have a remake on 2 years, maybe in 6.
+sonicbluray It would be awesome, but how would they adapt the controls? The whole game was made with the Wii's motion controls in mind (which I had absolutely no problem with, but a lot of people complained about)
+Xhesz m2
it'a a remaster not a remake
+ShadowRave Is a remaster..HD, New textures, new modes, more polygons.
+ShadowRave The last of us remastered have new character models?
ShadowRave Is not a simple port, it has new textures... That alone make it a remaster...
Julian Howze And what that means? Is the game is based on a old version is a remaster... If is made from 0 again is a remake... Is simple.
ShadowRave Yes the Last of Us for PS4 is a remaster, is not a game built from ground up for the PS4. Even Naughty Dog says is a remaster.
does anyone else think that the Wii u version looks a lot less saturated compared to the others??
Most likely HDR.
I actually find the low res to compliment the game's visuals way better.
It's weird. The Wii u sometimes looks less saturated compared to the Wii, and the Wii sometimes looks less saturated compared to the Gamecube.
It was a retexture not a remaster
When upscaling textures for rereleases, it quickly gets to the point where the lack of any bump mapping makes it look worse than the original.
Whats the point of high res textures if the object itself is flat and frequently has light hitting it? Alot of things start to look like giant flat shiny things at some point. When you get to HD, bump mapping makes a huge difference.
+MotionTransformer Dude, it looks way better than the original, anyone with eyes can see it.
+Good Night Moon have eyes and I don't see it looking "way better". its an improvement, yes. but way better is giving it more credit than it deserves.
I've noticed 2 changes. resolution and texture quality. the Wii u is capable of more than this.
Xerazal This game is 1080p. Few WiiU games are 1080p native, and thats for good reason, WiiU can do more but is not a specially good 1080p machine, this game is probably more demanding than it looks just for that.
Good Night Moon I know that its not a 1080p powerhouse, but even something as simple as bump mapping could be implemented without much hit on performance, at least i'm pretty sure based on the gpu that it could. The fact that something like Wind Waker HD can run at native 1080p yet have much more detail in lighting, shadows, and multiple filters shows the hardware is capable of doing more than TP HD is letting on. Both titles run at 1080p at 30fps, yet TP HD looks drastically worse. Then again, WWHD is technically a remake while TP HD is just a remaster.
Xerazal But WW has way less detail in textures, on this games there is like 10 times more diferent textures and they are like 10 times more complex too, in WW the textures are completely flat because the (wonderful) cell-shaded and simplistic artstyle.
When you see the original you realize how Wind Waker aged much better
Windwaker had so much personality that was missing from the previous games. Personality in the expressions of the NPCs, how they moved, walked, talked, what they wore. They all felt like they had different personalities. This was a massive improvement to the Ocarina of Time where the NPCs felt lifeless and forgettable. Kind of like a disney animatronic ride.
Ugh Zelda Twilight Princess iš much better than wind waker
what r u talking about the philips cdi games are the best
@ChouzetsuDynamic Okami?
Wind Waker is the most humorous, stylish in animation, textures, effects, and color than any other Zelda game. Everyone had to wait almost 2 decades to finally get a Zelda game similar to Wind Waker's glorious style. I went ahead a got WW HD because it is a fantastic remaster. The original WW GC has more texture than TP HD. TP HD doesn't look much different than the GC version. Now, if a Nintendo could run the unreal engine settings on TP with lighting, texture, sound, animation, echo, and detail, then I would buy it, but that will never happen because a Nintendo can't run it...a super computer does.
After this release, I noticed a trend
All 64 Zelda games were rereleased on 3ds
All GameCube games were rereleased on Wii u...
SKYWARD SWORD NX CONFIRMED
*4 swords released on to DSi:* Am I a joke to you
This comment aged like red meat
a part of me says the original fuzzy graphics of the twilight realm is better
You can switch to 480p through System Settings if you prefer the fuzzy, blurry look.
Definitely
Because they made the mistake to brighten colors in addition to improve graphic. Look at link’s hair and green suit.
In my opinion, the Wii/GameCube version looks darker and exciting.
Jonimari Zebra really? Idk, looks more colorful and playful to me unlike how it's absolutely in no way whatsoever supposed to be. Just saying
True, its more dark
It adds a grimmy auroa to the world. It adds another layer of character to the game
You are totally right
The hd makes the details much better, but I really miss the glowing aura that gave the game, especially in twilight areas, a more mystical feeling. When I first played TP years ago its graphics were mind blowing to young me. Without the glowing hue around it's much more obvious where its limited technology lies (unlike windwaker, with a more unique style that continues to work in its favor).
they really loved bloom in the mid 2000s.
That’s what I’m saying! The gold glow was great! And the lighting effects in general are amazing, almost like early ray-tracing haha.
@@ianswift3521 You say mid-200s as if it's not a common thing today. It never went away.
the footage at 2:15 perfectly show why I prefer the Wii version. Look at how much more ominous the Wii version looks, as if the world is accurately wrapped in shadows.
they messed up with the lighting system it seems
Lone Star also because the low res
I think a big part of it is this game was developed with old tvs in mind. Those were able to create a greater sense of darkness, while new tech needs to make things brighter to compensate inability to process dark pictures.
Travis Gladue yeah
based
hd and no grass? lol
Zelda Wii U stole it all :P
+gac3la They just improved textures, nothing more, so no grass.
+gac3la Well it should have new grass! this honestly doesn't look much better. Nintendo is such a money grab company! Your seriously trying to tell me that they couldn't just totally remaster the game? Add some NextGen assets, put some friggen grass on the ground for crap sakes. Watch guys... next year they will release this game again, but with a fully remastered version, just to money grab again. Nintendo needs to just die already.
+matthew west and yet micro soft remade gears of War with just new textures and Sony did the same for God of war with new textures and at least Nintendo added a new dungeon with less tears of light so I applaud nintendo
+Michael Wadsworth lol XD
Man, that moment where Midna gets corrupted still gives me goosebumps. That scene looked better in the Wii version, though. The hazy appearance really complemented the game's style.
You can switch to 480p through System Settings, you know?
@@itstrayantula7082 it's not a resolution problem, it's a shading, coloring, and filtering problem
Gahoole You can also change the brightness of the game, you know.
@@itstrayantula7082 doesn’t help anything
Oh wells! That depends on how you see the game and how it’s displayed on your TV.
I liked the blurriness of the Wii and Came Cube much more because it adds to the atmosphere.
Chen Yakumo im glad someone also agrees with me
Chen Yakumo agree.
It isn't "blurry" anymore because its now on 1080p and the wii and gamecube version runs on 480p
That's exactly why I play my PC games and watch TH-cam videos at 240p
Chen Yakumo eewwwwww, blurryniss.
I really like how this video was edited. It really allowed you to make the close comparisons
They took out the heavy blur effect of when inside twilight. It made things harder to see but makes it feel like scenes inside that environment lost something of its composition.
The upscaling looks nice and the new textures are pretty good. Can't help but feel like they could have done better though, for the most part it doesn't look THAT much better.
+KryptiicGames well its not in house nor as closely overlooked as the passed remaster and the remakes, they are busy with zelda u
My only problem with the Wii U version (from what I've seen of it, since I don't have a Wii U and can't play it myself) is that it's brighter and less saturated than the original version. I really like the 'dark' kind of effect in the original and the Wii U version just kind of ruins that. Other than that, though, the Wii U version is absolutely beautiful.
Just like Majora's Mask 3D, they make it so shiny that it lose that dark atmosphere
You can adjust the brightness and resolution, you know?
@@itstrayantula7082you do realize the color differences is down to the game itself, not the TV. Direct capture from emulation of both GameCube/Wii and Wii U with rendering at 1080p shows there’s a difference in lighting.
I prefer the gritty, disgusting look of the Wii version over the HD version. Idk, it just feels better to me
Makes it more creepier, but cooler!
@@Mekiza it has bolder colors but less detail
@@fabienzaca True... but it gives it a more... gloomy feeling... matches with the story LOL
I actually don't mind the older look, but they did a fantastic job adding detail.
Thank you for the comparison. Did finish TP on my Wii and now evaluating a replay in HD on my WiiU, this helped me a lot.
All it is, is a HD texture pack. This game with a dynamic lighting system would be freaking amazing.
We need The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for Nintendo Switch!
This game is just such a masterpiece
The original looks more mystical. Like it lives up to its title
2:34 you can really see an improvement here
I dunno, I like the original graphics better, chests looked more faded, characters looked darker, things like that.
How are "faded" graphics BETTER?
+GameScape certain things look better faded, like treasure chests, makes it look like they've been there a long time
+Timothy “SparkyDood” Mury No, it just looks ugly.
***** I'm not saying the graphics upgrade is bad, I'm just saying, things like parchment, to me personally look better faded, it makes it look like the map had been waiting for eons for a chosen hero. Again, that's just my opinion.
Random1567 what he's trying to say is that there were certain details in the original that weren't meant to be in HD, therefore ruining the effect.
To all those whining about the graphics? It's a remaster! Other remasters of older games did the same thing! They didn't change the graphics up much. Plus Nintendo wouldn't want this to outshine the real Zelda game coming out for Wii U in 2016 unless for some reason they delay it again. If you don't like it don't drop the $60 and just wait for Zelda U. I mean there's more to gaming than super hyper realistic graphics. One game proved this and it was called Minecraft on the PC!
+Moka Kun And your statement it's fallacious.
One, because remasters have the improved visuals as one of the main draws(your comparison to Minecraft is totally irrelevant on this ground).
Two, because $60 is a criticizable price for a game you can already play on the Wii U.
Some complaints are poorly formulated but the criticisms aren't groundless.
Minecraft is the worst "video game" I have ever "played"
And that... is your opinion
Which game is "Zelda U"?
S. O. Morales We know it as Breath of the Wild now
They need to get this on Switch like yesterday.
It looks better and worse at the same time what the hell
The light, and color's are worse.
And also has that annoying white overlay
I'm going to come late to the party and say this. I was initially very excited about TPHD, then I was a little skeptical when I started seeing comparison videos and all that.
When I got TPHD home and loaded it up, my 7 year old son said it looks the same as the old one, and was very unimpressed. Then when I popped in the original, and my feelings changed.
The original looks like somebody smeared vaseline all over my TV screen. I think what happens is that when we first played the original, our imagination helped us to see it looking better than it did in reality. Now, playing through the HD version, the game looks like I would have wanted it to back in 2006.
Also, the intro, which I never really minded to begin with, seems to go by a bit quicker so you get to the action sooner.
Could it have been better? Sure, but we would probably have had to wait another 8-10 years for a complete rebuild of the game.
Bro learned what 480p resolution is
I really like how they fixed the weird side-effect of the bloom effect where it made borders super dark.
I didn't even play the original, and I honestly think the original looks better most of the time. Yes, the HD one is more objectively good and more realistic, but something about the GameCube version's art style has more charm and magic.
What, because it's blurrier..? XD
+MajesticWolf Well, no.... but upon revisiting this video, I HAVE noticed that the blurriness may have helped. See, the world itself is built for GameCube, so things like hills and mountains, which on a more current system would be realistically rendered, are quite... angular. This is less obvious with blur, because it rounds out edges and stuff. When the blurriness is removed, the pointless and jaggedness of landscapes become easy to spot, leading to a less pleasing aesthetic overall for me. There's also the fact that the HD versions seems to have desaturated a lot of the colours and stuff. Things that were attractively red are now a more believable but less charming bronze, and so on.
+Lloyd Rhodes-Brandon Agreed. They should have kept the "bloom" effect as strong as in the original. They toned it down because a lot of people complained it was too heavy in the original... but those people didn't realize it looked better with the bloom than without.
+Lloyd Rhodes-Brandon I agree... When it came to the grass... I feel like the blurriness helped me to imagine the grass textures better.
In the HD version it looks like they took the land and just splatted it with green paint. The flatness turns me off.
I already have the original game anyways... So I don't really see a good reason in buying it a second time.
i strongly agree
1:32 shows exactly what this is meant to be
they did an amazing job, its a very big jump from even the Wii version
it's the same models with higher resolution output and much MUCH better textures
Meh Mario galaxy should of got a HD remaster
Maybe, but honestly I don't think it needs it. Looks beautiful already
That it does
lol
+J Riley Nah. Super Mario Galaxy is accessible and already looks great. It's Super Mario Sunshine that needs the love and attention now.
That would be nice too.
Colors look way better in the old Versions
Ok you gotta admit it looked really nice for a gamecube game at it's time
It’s not GameCube.
@@esper5323 Yes it is.
2:11 Those eyes
Wii U definitely has more detail, but only slightly.
it's remaster, not remake
Николай Козлов They definitely didn't just raise the resolution for this. It looks like they actually did work on improving it. Just very minimal work. They did the same thing for Ocarina of Time 3D, but the difference was greater.
+Chewiejds ocarina was the n64 game, and thee console was very primitive comparing to 3ds, while wii is just the previous generation. its games still look quite nice.
***** I suppose the workload wasn't slight, but the overall effect just seems slight to me. I hear it looks better in person though.
So it's basically like playing the Gamecube/Wii version on a Dolphin emulator... cool.
exactly, with an hd texture pack lol.
Does anyone know if the GC and Wii versions are being shown with composite or component cables?
Fantastic comparison! More of these please!
i don't think its worth it imma huge zelda fan, but this is a money milking, TP deserved a proper REMAKE
At least the fixes and added content make the game worth picking up again. It’s all about gameplay, not graphics. Also, you will realize the graphical improvements when jumping from HD to SD. And also, this is a remaster. Remaking the game again would take a while.
wow the wii u version actually looks way better
+Nick Notice that the portal was looking good on wii version.(I have gc version)
+Nick Yeah it does,but I don't own a Wii U so I am happy playing it on the Wii instead after I've almost finished Skyward sword.That's right I like Skyward sword come at me.
Does the GameCube have more texture?
The details are there, instead of the blank color, and Midna looks less blurry, so does the fused shadow
Valtrass69 There reason a surprise is justified is because a lot of "HD" versions of old games have hardly looked different from their original version. I'm afraid it was your comment that was stupid.
This needs to come out on the switch
I'm gonna be the only one saying this, but I actually like how everything is lighter in the Wii U version. This is for a specific reason though: My eyesight is starting to go, which makes it harder to see the things around me, especially in places that are darker. The last time I played Twilight Princess I struggled in some areas, and when I played the remaster at a friend's house I enjoyed being able to be aware of my surroundings again.
There's nothing wrong with thinking Twilight Princess looks best when it's darker, I thought that a long time ago. Just appreciate the fact you have good eyesight.
I for one think the remaster looks great and am pretty impressed by the redone textures. Never got the chance to play this when I was younger and I'm really looking forward to it :)
I just love the way the Hylian shield looks in the Wii U version lol
Does the normal wii have the hero mode from the start and the extra dungeon where link is in wolf form or only the wii U version?
Pls answer
Hero mode and extra dungeon (As a Wolf) is a exclusive to Wii U.
i dont get it, you can chose between the mirrored version and the gamecube version?
alredy have gamecube version not worth the upgrade
That 4:3 aspect ratio tho unless you're playing on an old SD CRT it doesnt look great on modern displays.
wtf is that name
I hope they re release this for this switch! I never got to go back and replay the HD version. I would love that and skyward sword. I hope nintendo keeps the tread going with re-releasing all there games in history on there newer systems
When they inevitably get to skyward sword, it's going to look pretty amazing with its water pastel like styling.
Did you captured directly throught WII and GC or used emulator ?
It's very important since with a emulator we can see the game texture quality at it's best, unlike when they're played on the consoles.
Looks like they fixed a lot of aliasing issues 👍🏼
Those polygons stand out in a bad way when the texture is so clear.
Esto si es un remaster que esta bien hecho, retexturizan todos lo escenarios, gran parte de los personajes y mejoran la calidad visual, últimamente los remasters solo se tratan de que la calidad de imagen llegue a 1080p y 60 fps pero los personajes aveces lucen pixeleados, los fondos prerendizados y de baja calidad y solo retexturizan algunas cosas. Bien hecho nintendo, usted si sabe como hacer un excelente remaster, ojala usted haya sido el encargado de remasterizar re4 y que si se viera como debe ser en HD asi como lo hizo aqui y rn Zelda Windwaker
Gamecube looks the best of all three.
Why don't we just ditch the Wiis and bring Gamecube back?
I know there's a difference
but I was hoping there was an extreme difference
like windwaker hd , the lighting.
of course I never played this game on any console, but I'm hoping to get a wiiu some time in my future
i hope this game and wind waker hd make it to the switch
I'm not sure which I would like to play hero mode or normal mode. I want the extra challenge but I also want to play the gamecube version of the game. ( i played the wii version so i was really looking forward to playing this in a different perspective ) Any suggestions, should I play the new hero mode or play it in normal mode with a new perspective?
Es tan dificil poner el emulador dolphin con ztp con los graficos al maximo?
I love the gamecube version so much never was a big motion control fan
All I care about is that Midna’s sinister evil smile is scarier in the Wii version
This really helped in terms of debating whether or not I wanted a classic look or not
Came back to witness all the comments from people now saying “Skyward Sword looks the same they should have made actual upgrades like with Twilight Princess” and it’s the same thing but replacing SS with TP and TP with WW
Looks superb on the Wii U
Now just imagine on the switch
...
HD remastered sure is great, but misses this 2004 vibe that this game had!
I actually like how IGN made this video comparison. And as for the game, excited for this! Really liked TP.
Switch port when?
There's a charm to the Gamecube graphics which I really love! But the HD does look nice too
I've been waiting for someone to do this
Will LOZ TP be coming soon to the switch? I hope so :/
game cube version is better than wii u version
not really honestly, still good, but the wii u is better
No matter what I still usually recommend the GameCube version to friends over the wii or wiiU. mostly* because of the controls but also because the orginal GC release has a hazey.. dreamy.. kinda look.
Nonetheless, Twilight Princess is Timeless. I really think they could have made a sequel featuring Colin as the new playable hero.
Imagine seeing Link and Ilia slightly older ... the other Ordon residents too w few new ones. A whole new plot to the Twilight except now... it is Colin .. given the green tunic and the ancient sword to face evil and prove himself. Have some of the same music too... but w few new tunes. Have Link offering Epona to Colin for one last adventure. Wow they really could have done something w Colin. seeming as he was so adamant about becoming brave like Link someday.
I agree wasted opportunity on Nintendo's part
seeing the HD version in person is crazy good,this video doesn't do it justice.
I feel the blur or “smoothing” in the original version when in the twilight realm adds to the “darkness” of this entry to the series. I have a 480p Plasma Monitor and Gamecube HDMI out so I’m getting the best digital representation I believe possible. This game looks fantastic both ways, the lack of AA on the cube is distracting though. The controls on the original GC version are much better, and the prompts for midna with link wolf as well as his attacks are more responsive. The overall “clean” look of the Wii U version with the tablet controller do make this my preferred version, but the GC controller is so in-tune with the original. Toss up for sure, worth to buy now as you can get for around $20 if you never played, or want a HD version.
The Wii U version looks good, but in my opinion it was just an excuse for the TP amiibos, specially since they introduced Wolf Link in BotW, with as many hearts in health as you have in your TP HD. They knew they were gonna sell a lot just for having Wolf Link in botw
I also bought it for cave of shadows
is it just me or does GameCube look more colourful
It's just you.
+Tyler Camp the colors are better, especially better than the wii
Component cables have more vibrant, but less accurate color.
+Tyler Camp Yep they are. The only people disagreeing must be color blind.
Yeah,
Because it was purple and the WiiU was black. 😂
Now this is more like it. You can really see the upgrade to landscape detail and textures.
How do you get it on PC?
why is the saturation/gradient so much worse on the wiii U
The WiiU version is almost too clear, I can see everything whereas before there was always a shadow or gold tinge to everything that made it feel more "twilight" spookish.
i think they did a really good job at updating the textures from the low res wii and gamecube version, you can see the details on everything now
Midna's smiles really creeped me out when I was a kid, but now I find a little funny and sad
Would be sweet to get a Metroid Prime Trilogy HD, maybe I'd finally beat one haha
am i literally the only one who thinks the HD one is better
chøndriteamber Who doesn't see that it's clearly better (no pun intended) lol?
I honestly don't remember the textures looking like that on my wii version
Will it be playable on the switch tho
The original game looks better in the twilight segments. The HD re release looks too flat and desaturated
Cleaned up plenty of the aliasing from the originals. so that's cool. Also glad to enjoy the 16:9 ratio. Still nit a complete overhaul like Wind Waker, though that's just a nitpick on my part. Part of me is hoping that they reorchestrated the soundtrack. And that they kept the Wii control scheme as an option, I liked that scheme imo.
+MrVince329 wind waker didnt really have a total overhaul. its already simple style and bloom is what made it seem so. js
+voltrainer yeah. true
Wind Waker also had the same treatment as this, except this game has even more treatment. You're comparing two different art styles. Don't do that.
So when can we get a remake for the switch with upscaled polygons/textures
Oh.. the nostalgia. I grew up on this Zelda...
I'm just gonna say the gamecube version is the best looking one.
I was thinking this was going to be the laziest remaster in the franchise ... I was wrong
Even if they didn't update the polygon count, they should've atleast done some depth of field blur to sorta cover that up. The bloom lighting helps a bit with that
I feel like the lack of high(er)-poly models would've helped to this game's advantage. I love how crisp and clear the new textures look compared to the previous ones, but it seems very alienating to see these detailed landscapes with (somewhat) low-poly models. Though, I can't really blame them as they're working hard on the Zelda title for the Wii U, and I'm really looking forward to that.