it's pretty amusing watching manufacturers releasing the all-new this and that with an insane base price and wondering why their inventory remains sitting at dealer lots
Price of this one is just way higher due to it being the '1st edition' that they're only making like 5000 of. Not too surprise as it's an 'exclusivity' thing
@@km_loop 56k as a base price for anything is pretty high, especially for a Toyota. 56k had more buying power 3 - 5 years ago in the new-truck market. Inflation is crazy man
Just bought a 1958 edition in Denver, put 33" KO3s on it, and drove it home to San Diego hitting a few unpaved mountain passes on the way. That's the package that makes the most sense on this, base spec everything, cloth seats, with the only extra money going to better tires and floor mats. I love it!
@@nemomilo333 I found a dealer that didn't charge anything over sticker and they price matched Tire Rack (including the local Denver warehouse pickup discount) on the tires
These sell well in Australia (Prado 150) because there are lots of unsealed roads. We like softer suspension for touring on less than ideal road surfaces. Not many people rock crawling in OZ like you do in America. If you don't like the suspension just lift it and go firmer etc, there will be LOTS of suspension kits available. Toyota know their market and the suspension is spot on being soft! Toyota don't need to offer factory options for suspension, there are huge aftermarket options here in Australia, heaps of people change tyres and suspension to suit their personal needs. Marketplace is littered with brand new wheels and tyres and suspension that people swap out.
And for a very competitive price you can get the better in every way, Lexus GX550. V6, nicer inside, nicer exterior imo, and likely more aftermarket support in the future.
@@evanshireman5644 funny I test drove the GX 550 and I just got done checking out a Land Cruiser although I wasn’t able to test drive it today and I actually think the land cruiser looks nicer outside and inside so different strokes for different folks I guess
They should’ve called this the FJ Cruiser, made it more off road capable and priced it at $50k-$60k. The current pricing for all of Toyota’s new body on frame vehicles is terrible.
@@cheintz091 Improve the ground clearance, approach/departure, and break over angle. Added some actual off-road capable tires as standard, and improved water fording depth. They could’ve given us things like some competition has where there is drain holes in the floor so you can wash it out with not issues. Instead, we got a 4Runner+ for 20-30k more with not much more capabilities than the next generation 4Runner. They really just wanted use the Land Cruiser name really bad, but with this pricing it makes no sense, i feel like a lot of the cost is going towards the Land Cruiser name. I am really confused on the pricing because this uses the same platform as the upcoming 4Runner, shares the same hybrid system as some of the 4Runner trims, and you can even get the 4Runner with a full time AWD system like the LC, 4Runner can even be had with 3rd row seating as well.
@@Fadic4 Well it's kind of a no brainer. You either want a Land Cruiser or a 4 Runner. I want a Land Cruiser not a 4 Runner. And someone will want a 4 Runner not a Land Cruiser. Me personally I'm not cross shopping the two.
@@Fadic4 They did price it at $50k-$60k. All the press cars are the “first edition” versions that are $20k more expensive than the base trim for some leather and a roof rack. If you see one of these in the wild, you’re seeing an absolute mark driving it.
The price is insane, even the base 1958 edition. Haven't driven one yet, but love what I see from the reviews. Love my Jeep, but eventually I'll need to replace it and this is in the running. The new Jeep Wranglers are also outrageously expensive so...
Nope, it ain’t just you. Coming a Toyota technician: the new ones are pretty iffy. The tundras had a ton of recalls and the newer autos in their trucks are pretty iffy
Premium fuel for a 4 cylinder hybrid??? Where is the fuel savings ?? To top it off this thing is $77k and it’s smaller than the old Land Cruiser. Toyota what happened here??
Price of this one is just way higher due to it being the '1st edition' that they're only making like 5000 of. Not too surprise as it's an 'exclusivity' thing for the first year
Had a TRD Tacoma rental with knobby tires that kept howling through corners…. Feeling out the (low) grip limit and playing/balancing with gas pedal in 2WD was honestly a ton of fun (at modest speeds)!! I had way more giggles than driving my own Audi. Oh and I can totally disregard potholes too.
Toyota knocked it out of the park with this new Land Cruiser. The LC Premium Package is a great package. The engine is one of Toyota's most bulletproof. It has been used in various models for years as well as Toyota's commercial truck line, Hino. They get decent fuel mileage, are quick, reliable, very sharp, and the resale is second to none with a Land Cruiser.
This car starts at almost 60k$ in Saudi Arabia and even the top trim doesn’t have half as many options as shown in this video thanks to the monopoly of one singular greedy dealership across the country
That 2500-3000RPM oomph experience is something my 2023 4Runner's 4.0L V6 could only dream of. I get 22+ mpg highway in my 4.0L. I'd probably get close to 30 in this with how I drive, and that's with the economy penalty of full-time 4WD. I entirely disagree with that comment that you couldn't offroad these in stock form. Yes, you should put offroad focused tires on any thing that doesn't come on them, even in the same diameter. My 4Runner TRD Offroad came on total highway tires. But 9" of ground clearance is enough, and the entire underside of this thing is well-protected against bashes. 9" protected (Land Cruiser) and 9" unprotected in a Subaru Wilderness are two different things. Can't count how many times I've landed on the tow hitch on my current and previous 4Runners. Or the rear axle. Or even the front suspension. It's all tough. This thing has much more useful power than my 4.0L. My 4.0 moves well when you kick all the way down and redline it. It does not move well in any other situation, anywhere south of 4500RPM. The LC250 is usable power everywhere, high end and low end.
This guy knows. I owned a 2018 4Runner for 100k miles and am now nearly 100k in on an Outback Wilderness. have test driven a Land Cruiser 1958 trim. Can confirm all the above, from how much better the LC250 feels power-wise than the 4Runner (or the Wilderness with it's extra-mushy CVT) to the difference in measured ground clearance and *what* is 9 inches off the ground. On the one hand, I've taken my Outback more places than most 4Runners will ever go. On the other, I've damaged my Outback doing so more than I ever did while taking my 4Runner to similar places. I wheel my vehicles HARD. Not for sport, but to get to extremely remote trails, canyons, and points of interest in the American Southwest. While I'll never build a wheelin' rig for sport, I certainly use my vehicles as-intended (and then some). The Land Cruiser 250 is going to be the right vehicle for a lot of people once they get over the hypothetical boogeyman of "reliability" and "repairing things with twine and duct tape in the Australian Outback" while in reality they off road no more than myself or many other outdoors enthusiasts who view off-road travel as a fun perk of our primary hobbies rather than our entire personalities.
A 4-cylinder with 300+ hp & 400+ ftlb of torque? A hybrid motor also attached? Those are specs you usually see in a german car but the difference is that Mercedes puts it in a c-class and not a big off-roader like this. The engine also sounded raspy and like it was struggling, and the fans were overtly loud throughout the entire idle. It may be that it’s just a press car but I do question the long-term reliability of this 🤔
You've demonstrated why I never, ever, buy a first edition. Every car needs a year or two before they make it the way it's meant to be. I am NOT gonna volunteer bring a guinee pig at 80k, 105k here in Canada I believe. Hellz nah.
So you're the one I always hear around my neighborhood with the outrageous tire squealing 🤣 Currently have a 2013 Dodge Journey, though the Land Cruiser has supremely caught my eye, thanks for the vid!
everytime you make a right turn im freaking out that i cant see traffic on my screen hahahah. my accord has the blind spot camera and its changed my life... will be the hardest thing to get use to when buying newer cars without it.
Chris, I am relieved you were not hit by the guy running the red light at 19:48. Getting back to the Land Cruiser, the 'problem' of excess power is solved in some markets with the old school 2.7 4 cylinder engine. That slow and steady motor will certainly not overwhelm the tires. 😉
The Tudor BB Pro is an outstanding watch. Rolex produces the most accurate and well-built watches in the business. Very sharp. The GMT Pepsi is also a very good looking watch.
Price of this one is just way higher due to it being the '1st edition' that they're only making like 5000 of. Not too surprise as it's an 'exclusivity' thing for the first year
Listening to those shifts on the 0-60 run sounds exactly like what I experienced (and felt) during my test drive of the new LC. Definitely needs some more refinement in the transmission department.
The Land Cruiser is great. But the "regular" Land Cruiser has an MSRP of approx. $68k and the GX550 has an MSRP of approx. $69K.....I think I'd go for the GX....(and Tudor Black Bays are the most underrated watches, the "Land Cruiser" of the watch game!)
Some guys just took their 2024 LC in stock form and stock tires down Black bear pass in CO, so not sure that your comment is accurate that it doesn't have the clearance or tires to do anything other than moderate trails.
I’m an owner of a 200 series. I test drove a ‘24 today and I really wanted to like it but I was disappointed. There is a lot of hunting between the IC and battery at low speeds and the 4 sounds ROUGH. If you jump on the gas this isn’t as noticeable but stop and go traffic would be tiresome. The visibility is also compromised compared to the 200 series. The WS is 50% as big and the rearview mirror/rain sensor section plunges halfway down the glass. The beltline is higher too. I’m guessing the author of this video hasn’t driven a 200 series because the new version handled like a BMW in comparison. Much less roll and much tighter steering. The new LC looks fantastic and I like the back to basics approach but I doubt it will appeal to prior LC owners. A minority view but thought I would share.
Finally a useful & honest review on this truck. The jury is still out though on getting one. New edition of anything, the bugs have to be worked out first. Still too new. Just wait and see what goes wrong first with it.
Landcruiser buyers typically do not take loans on their vehicles. Or take loans for any purchases for that matter. The Landcruiser is designed for a very selective buyer. The Landcruiser is produced in a limited quantity and are not designed nor intended to be sold to the masses. The buyer of the Landcruiser is in a different league.
The whole drive was filled with the constant reminder that you just paid 3/4 of a hundred grand and get the same aural 4 banger quality of a cheap corolla.
76k and you get 4 cylinders.... I don't care about the power numbers... that 4 banger is going to unalive itself being maxed out every single day pulling this behemoth....
I am very curious to how the 25 4Runner will compare to this LandCruiser...Appreciate how the Topher consistently tests these much harder than most of the YT folks.
It's such a shame that the US market and TH-camrs are being fooled by the Land Cruiser Prado. In a lot of markets around the world, it's just Toyota Prado. I hope the US market gets the real full size Land Cruiser that is a complete different SUV.
I’m a bit confused by the complaints here… we’ve got an off-road focused vehicle doing 56mph around a corner marked 30mph and we’re complaining about tiring squealing and handling capabilities? Land Cruisers shifted slowly from off-road centric vehicles to luxury SUVs and PEOPLE STOPPED BUYING THEM! The decision to go back to a more basic vehicle that excels off-road, allows for aftermarket modular upgrades, and comes in $20k under the previous luxury model is going to make Toyota an insane amount of money. And on the terms of money, they are expensive but in 1994 an 80 series was equivalent to $80k in today’s money. A person not being able to afford it doesn’t make it a bad vehicle.
At $80K I'm getting a a new X5 40i Xdrive on air and buy a set of offroad wheels. My BIL wheeled no problem with his '18 X5 diesel with stock all season tires
Having owned a BMW, I can only say enjoy the fun while it lasts. My 33 year old Land Cruiser is still on its original drivetrain, I’ll never go back to a German car as long as I have more sense than money.
That’s fair, but for comparison we bought a 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara with the 6 speed manual for $51k out the door. It’s loaded too! We spent another $4k on a 3 inch lift, 35s and nice rims, also added a cold air intake. It has 50k on it and it’s been flawless. I understand jeeps can be very expensive too, but it’s hard to justify $88k cdn for a Land Cruiser.
@@christophermckee4022 lmao Toyota uses BMW's B58 powerplant + ZF transmission in the Supra. The new LC uses injectors on the valve cover, plastic intake manifold, plastic cooling reservoirs, an enormous amount of control modules. This new LC is vastly different from the old LC. Your opinion on BMW is as dated as that 33 year old LC. Modern BMWs still have issues, but the headache and complexity is no longer exclusive to BMW. So if I'm spending almost $80k for the same assessed risk and longevity for both modern vehicles, I'm going with a B58 powertrain.
I really like the new Land Cruisers, but the mark ups right now are insane. And the crap handling on the road is disappointing. Congrats on the watch acquisition though. Their GMT’s are some of the coolest GMT’s out there I think. Thanks for taking us on the drive!
So isn’t this like the updated prado Land Cruiser and not the big ones were all used to here in the states? Man the older prado/GX seemed so much better.
@17:56 the lack of ground clearance is what's most baffling about this product. lots of reviewers are bottoming this out on easy trails, which is embarassing.
Mainly, minor things like a roof rack, rock rails, skid plate, and mud flaps. The LC trim with the Premium Package is a much better value for almost $10k less.
@@TXJ232 1958 (base) gets the round headlights but doesn't get some of the features of the mid trim (land cruiser trim). Land cruiser trim doesn't get round headlights but the square ones. The 1st edition is the only way to get round headlights + features
How does Landcruiser handling compare to 4Runner Limited and TRD sport that have x-reas suspension and handle quite well for large suv. I also like hydraulic steering on my 4runner.
Hmm, this 18" wheel squeek is there and it is concerning... I wonder if it's the tire type or the high 18" wall? Maybe 20" rim would not exhibit the same behavior?
Really nice Tudor watch, its a great diet Rolex and I don't mean that disparagingly. Its got a pretty nice sweep as well. Just not in love with the band.
@@TheTopher I am cross shopping the two. I love the GX460 on paper, but the LC is styled so much better. I wonder if the turbo hybrid engines will prove to be reliable.
Awesome video as always Topher! Can someone please tell me why does the engine have at least 2 overflow tanks? is it because it's hybrid? so one for the electric motor and the other one is for the combustion engine or what's the deal? Thanks!
I do think this vehicle is priced 4-5k to high across all trim levels when you compare it to the new 4 Runner coming and the GX just above it. Lexus GX550 Premium might be nicer and cheaper.
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Mention TheTopher and ask for D.K. he'll take great care of you guys!
See if Grand Seiko will sponsor you, nicer watches and they have partners in Bloomfield and AA
Tudor, a Rolex for the price of what a Rolex should cost. The rest is nothing but hype! Nice watch.
What's the exact boot space size on this specific model?? Also, what was the ride exactly like, and what was 0-60 like
Rocking a Tudor Pelagos in my FJ Trail Team right now. It also rides quite nice in the GT4.
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@@TheTopher I have three Tudors! I will check out their store for next time 😄
In love with all those physical controls inside - knobs, buttons, switches, actual gear selector. Sweet
Sadly missing the transfer case shifter
Agreed, I love the presence of a tablet style screen in a car, but i want some tactile feedback when i make an adjustment in the car
The constant tire squeal makes it sound like you're in an 80s chase scene lol
It feels like it in every parking lot 😂
My jaw dropped when you went around the first corner hahahahahha
I was coming down to make this same comment
Love it! unfortunately 75k is the new 55k : /
Cutting costs on everything and its still expensive. welcome to the new normal
it's pretty amusing watching manufacturers releasing the all-new this and that with an insane base price and wondering why their inventory remains sitting at dealer lots
Price of this one is just way higher due to it being the '1st edition' that they're only making like 5000 of. Not too surprise as it's an 'exclusivity' thing
I mean it starts at 56k, this is a special edition. But yeah, prices are crazy these days.
@@km_loop 56k as a base price for anything is pretty high, especially for a Toyota. 56k had more buying power 3 - 5 years ago in the new-truck market. Inflation is crazy man
Just bought a 1958 edition in Denver, put 33" KO3s on it, and drove it home to San Diego hitting a few unpaved mountain passes on the way. That's the package that makes the most sense on this, base spec everything, cloth seats, with the only extra money going to better tires and floor mats. I love it!
And re: 12:17, with these 33s, I had zero issues getting up and over Imogene Pass, so I might gently push back on the additional need for a lift :)
This is how I would spec mine probably.
If you don’t mind me asking, how much was that combo total out the door?
@@nemomilo333 I found a dealer that didn't charge anything over sticker and they price matched Tire Rack (including the local Denver warehouse pickup discount) on the tires
How did you cover your $58,000 cloth seats?
58k for cloth seats, all plastic exterior, interior and a tiny 8” screen. This LC shouldn’t be much more expensive than a bronco sport.
These sell well in Australia (Prado 150) because there are lots of unsealed roads. We like softer suspension for touring on less than ideal road surfaces. Not many people rock crawling in OZ like you do in America. If you don't like the suspension just lift it and go firmer etc, there will be LOTS of suspension kits available. Toyota know their market and the suspension is spot on being soft!
Toyota don't need to offer factory options for suspension, there are huge aftermarket options here in Australia, heaps of people change tyres and suspension to suit their personal needs. Marketplace is littered with brand new wheels and tyres and suspension that people swap out.
Nearly 80k and all you get is a 4 banger with a small battery pack and skinny 31” highway tires. Insane.
And for a very competitive price you can get the better in every way, Lexus GX550. V6, nicer inside, nicer exterior imo, and likely more aftermarket support in the future.
@@evanshireman5644 funny I test drove the GX 550 and I just got done checking out a Land Cruiser although I wasn’t able to test drive it today and I actually think the land cruiser looks nicer outside and inside so different strokes for different folks I guess
that 4 cylinder sounds like its working its arse off
I'm willing to bet it's not going to be as reliable as a V6
@@TheUnreadableUserThat's gonna be the case. It will need timely, regular maintenance, but I think we can expect Toyota's reliability.
no its not lol!!! ford uses even much smaller engine displacement in their truck a 2.3l petrol and a 2l twin turbo diesel in foreign markets.
@@carholic-sz3qv That has nothing to do with how it sounds.
As a v6 4Runner owner I can tell you the v6 works its ass off harder. Literally no power compared to the I force max😅
As a resident of the area you drive around, it's always cool recognizing your usual route, great vids as always though my friend!
Always gotta be there for a new topher video
75k for a 4 cylinder is insane
326hp/465tq and reliable
@@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA reliable? This is the first year of production.
Since when does a higher price equate to more horses?
@@Toe_Knee_69expect reliability because these Prados are built in Japan not the US
They should’ve called this the FJ Cruiser, made it more off road capable and priced it at $50k-$60k.
The current pricing for all of Toyota’s new body on frame vehicles is terrible.
What would you recommend they change to make it more off road capable?
@@cheintz091 Improve the ground clearance, approach/departure, and break over angle. Added some actual off-road capable tires as standard, and improved water fording depth. They could’ve given us things like some competition has where there is drain holes in the floor so you can wash it out with not issues.
Instead, we got a 4Runner+ for 20-30k more with not much more capabilities than the next generation 4Runner.
They really just wanted use the Land Cruiser name really bad, but with this pricing it makes no sense, i feel like a lot of the cost is going towards the Land Cruiser name.
I am really confused on the pricing because this uses the same platform as the upcoming 4Runner, shares the same hybrid system as some of the 4Runner trims, and you can even get the 4Runner with a full time AWD system like the LC, 4Runner can even be had with 3rd row seating as well.
@@Fadic4 Well it's kind of a no brainer. You either want a Land Cruiser or a 4 Runner. I want a Land Cruiser not a 4 Runner. And someone will want a 4 Runner not a Land Cruiser.
Me personally I'm not cross shopping the two.
@@Fadic4 it's not really a 4runner+ when it has less ground clearance than a 4runner and no trim levels or options for more.
@@Fadic4 They did price it at $50k-$60k. All the press cars are the “first edition” versions that are $20k more expensive than the base trim for some leather and a roof rack. If you see one of these in the wild, you’re seeing an absolute mark driving it.
The price is insane, even the base 1958 edition. Haven't driven one yet, but love what I see from the reviews. Love my Jeep, but eventually I'll need to replace it and this is in the running. The new Jeep Wranglers are also outrageously expensive so...
is it me or toyota has lately been dipping in quality but rising in price?
Nope, it ain’t just you. Coming a Toyota technician: the new ones are pretty iffy. The tundras had a ton of recalls and the newer autos in their trucks are pretty iffy
Like every other car company lol?
$75k?? FMV: $55k
Premium fuel for a 4 cylinder hybrid??? Where is the fuel savings ?? To top it off this thing is $77k and it’s smaller than the old Land Cruiser. Toyota what happened here??
Tacoma has the same powertrain in it's hybrid and takes regular
The first edition is 77k… they start at 56k. Same engine in all trims
It's a turbo 4, it requires premium because high compression turbo motors need the cleaner more consistent burn of higher octane.
@@ofacefan to prevent detonation
@@ofacefanMaybe 30 years ago. Turbo engines can do just fine with regular. The Tacoma takes regular and it’s the exact same engine
That tire squeal is CRAZY
That Tudor 🤤🤤 Came for Yoda but that 5 second Tudor stole the show lol
Dude my wife and I test drove one of these and loved it
76k for a 4 cylinder land cruiser? No. Just no.
Price of this one is just way higher due to it being the '1st edition' that they're only making like 5000 of. Not too surprise as it's an 'exclusivity' thing for the first year
@@chibbyylol the interior looks cheap. Wouldn't pay 45k for it.
@@SamLed1111 4runner sits right under it if one wants something in that price range
Okay Boomer
@@SamLed1111Really doesn’t matter because you can’t afford it anyways. You couldn’t afford a doghouse.
Had a TRD Tacoma rental with knobby tires that kept howling through corners…. Feeling out the (low) grip limit and playing/balancing with gas pedal in 2WD was honestly a ton of fun (at modest speeds)!! I had way more giggles than driving my own Audi. Oh and I can totally disregard potholes too.
As a resident of the local area you record in, it's always cool seeing familiar places on your routes, great vid as always though!
I hate the low fuel light comes on when you have 1/3 tank still left. Drove me crazy 🤪
Constant tire squealing, Sounds like a Geo Metro. Costs 75k. HARD pass.
Toyota knocked it out of the park with this new Land Cruiser. The LC Premium Package is a great package. The engine is one of Toyota's most bulletproof. It has been used in various models for years as well as Toyota's commercial truck line, Hino.
They get decent fuel mileage, are quick, reliable, very sharp, and the resale is second to none with a Land Cruiser.
What a gem you are. Pure gentleman vibes here. Only reality
This car starts at almost 60k$ in Saudi Arabia and even the top trim doesn’t have half as many options as shown in this video thanks to the monopoly of one singular greedy dealership across the country
A spectacular and mighty Toyota painted in a pretty edgy color! Great to see the Topher back.
That 2500-3000RPM oomph experience is something my 2023 4Runner's 4.0L V6 could only dream of. I get 22+ mpg highway in my 4.0L. I'd probably get close to 30 in this with how I drive, and that's with the economy penalty of full-time 4WD.
I entirely disagree with that comment that you couldn't offroad these in stock form. Yes, you should put offroad focused tires on any thing that doesn't come on them, even in the same diameter. My 4Runner TRD Offroad came on total highway tires. But 9" of ground clearance is enough, and the entire underside of this thing is well-protected against bashes. 9" protected (Land Cruiser) and 9" unprotected in a Subaru Wilderness are two different things. Can't count how many times I've landed on the tow hitch on my current and previous 4Runners. Or the rear axle. Or even the front suspension. It's all tough.
This thing has much more useful power than my 4.0L. My 4.0 moves well when you kick all the way down and redline it. It does not move well in any other situation, anywhere south of 4500RPM. The LC250 is usable power everywhere, high end and low end.
This guy knows. I owned a 2018 4Runner for 100k miles and am now nearly 100k in on an Outback Wilderness. have test driven a Land Cruiser 1958 trim. Can confirm all the above, from how much better the LC250 feels power-wise than the 4Runner (or the Wilderness with it's extra-mushy CVT) to the difference in measured ground clearance and *what* is 9 inches off the ground.
On the one hand, I've taken my Outback more places than most 4Runners will ever go. On the other, I've damaged my Outback doing so more than I ever did while taking my 4Runner to similar places. I wheel my vehicles HARD. Not for sport, but to get to extremely remote trails, canyons, and points of interest in the American Southwest. While I'll never build a wheelin' rig for sport, I certainly use my vehicles as-intended (and then some).
The Land Cruiser 250 is going to be the right vehicle for a lot of people once they get over the hypothetical boogeyman of "reliability" and "repairing things with twine and duct tape in the Australian Outback" while in reality they off road no more than myself or many other outdoors enthusiasts who view off-road travel as a fun perk of our primary hobbies rather than our entire personalities.
Tire squeal makes this a complete no go in my opinion
You're going to judge a car based on a wear item that has clearly already worn out?
You can’t afford one anyway 😂😂😂
I really like you true and accurate honest review. Thank you.. I will watch all of your video's from now.
This thing deserved a V6
A 4-cylinder with 300+ hp & 400+ ftlb of torque? A hybrid motor also attached? Those are specs you usually see in a german car but the difference is that Mercedes puts it in a c-class and not a big off-roader like this. The engine also sounded raspy and like it was struggling, and the fans were overtly loud throughout the entire idle. It may be that it’s just a press car but I do question the long-term reliability of this 🤔
The mud flap strap it to reduce the chances of the mud flap getting pulled up into the tire when reversing
I kept trying to see what the watch was. Paused and zoomed and figured it out - only to see you posted info about it in the first post! They’re great.
My best guess is its a Tudor Black Bay Pro 39mm
Hey T, now that you have drive time between all of these, I’m am still stuck on the 460. Do you think the previous gen GX is still a better buy?
Aside from power and ride comfort the GX 460 is still the better vehicle imo
excellent video explaining the short comings of the land cruiser, I purchased the gx550
You've demonstrated why I never, ever, buy a first edition. Every car needs a year or two before they make it the way it's meant to be.
I am NOT gonna volunteer bring a guinee pig at 80k, 105k here in Canada I believe. Hellz nah.
Considering, would a set of tires solve most of your negatives?
So you're the one I always hear around my neighborhood with the outrageous tire squealing 🤣
Currently have a 2013 Dodge Journey, though the Land Cruiser has supremely caught my eye, thanks for the vid!
everytime you make a right turn im freaking out that i cant see traffic on my screen hahahah. my accord has the blind spot camera and its changed my life... will be the hardest thing to get use to when buying newer cars without it.
If I;m never going off road with it. I'll get the Pilot
Chris, I am relieved you were not hit by the guy running the red light at 19:48. Getting back to the Land Cruiser, the 'problem' of excess power is solved in some markets with the old school
2.7 4 cylinder engine. That slow and steady motor will certainly not overwhelm the tires. 😉
The Tudor BB Pro is an outstanding watch. Rolex produces the most accurate and well-built watches in the business. Very sharp. The GMT Pepsi is also a very good looking watch.
It's amazing but I can't get over the price. Combine that with dealer markups and it's a very hard pill to swallow.
At my dealership, they are going for msrp
Price of this one is just way higher due to it being the '1st edition' that they're only making like 5000 of. Not too surprise as it's an 'exclusivity' thing for the first year
No v8= no sale for me. I will keep my 2023 GX 460
So you bag on the Golf R for having a manual hood struct but no comment on a 75K premium crossover?
It's a Toyota, you don't need to open the hood.
@@musguelha14 Get on with the times, Toyotas aren’t what is once was.. It’s a typical disposable appliance.
Crossover? You mean SUV being body on frame and all?
@@SandmanV3 it was a joke.
How does the on road driving experience of this differ from 1)GX550 Overtrail with EKDSS? 2)Luxury Plus with 22in wheels and no EKDSS?
Great video, Toph!
Loved the surprise watch content.
Listening to those shifts on the 0-60 run sounds exactly like what I experienced (and felt) during my test drive of the new LC. Definitely needs some more refinement in the transmission department.
The Land Cruiser is great. But the "regular" Land Cruiser has an MSRP of approx. $68k and the GX550 has an MSRP of approx. $69K.....I think I'd go for the GX....(and Tudor Black Bays are the most underrated watches, the "Land Cruiser" of the watch game!)
Some guys just took their 2024 LC in stock form and stock tires down Black bear pass in CO, so not sure that your comment is accurate that it doesn't have the clearance or tires to do anything other than moderate trails.
I’m an owner of a 200 series. I test drove a ‘24 today and I really wanted to like it but I was disappointed. There is a lot of hunting between the IC and battery at low speeds and the 4 sounds ROUGH. If you jump on the gas this isn’t as noticeable but stop and go traffic would be tiresome.
The visibility is also compromised compared to the 200 series. The WS is 50% as big and the rearview mirror/rain sensor section plunges halfway down the glass. The beltline is higher too.
I’m guessing the author of this video hasn’t driven a 200 series because the new version handled like a BMW in comparison. Much less roll and much tighter steering.
The new LC looks fantastic and I like the back to basics approach but I doubt it will appeal to prior LC owners. A minority view but thought I would share.
Finally a useful & honest review on this truck. The jury is still out though on getting one. New edition of anything, the bugs have to be worked out first. Still too new. Just wait and see what goes wrong first with it.
How I wish Toyota would bring this engine Down Under here in Australia.
Nice Tudor. Very similar to Explorer 2. Good vid too bud.
In Vietnam, we have Land Cruiser Prado 2024 like this
Great watch! Every bit as nice as an explorer without the stupid high price. Pairs well with that Land Cruiser, which I guess is also pretty nice. 😉
Love the Black Bay!
youve got a nice taste in watches, have been noticing a few in your videos. is that an explorer 2?
or tudor?
The OEM tires are probably for EPA fuel economy testing.
lol , like it when you introduce your watch lol
Landcruiser buyers typically do not take loans on their vehicles. Or take loans for any purchases for that matter. The Landcruiser is designed for a very selective buyer. The Landcruiser is produced in a limited quantity and are not designed nor intended to be sold to the masses. The buyer of the Landcruiser is in a different league.
The whole drive was filled with the constant reminder that you just paid 3/4 of a hundred grand and get the same aural 4 banger quality of a cheap corolla.
That wind noise… I was disappointed how loud it was on the highway.
76k and you get 4 cylinders.... I don't care about the power numbers... that 4 banger is going to unalive itself being maxed out every single day pulling this behemoth....
why are people acting brand new to turbo 4’s? toyota lexus has been using them for a long time now.
I am very curious to how the 25 4Runner will compare to this LandCruiser...Appreciate how the Topher consistently tests these much harder than most of the YT folks.
It's such a shame that the US market and TH-camrs are being fooled by the Land Cruiser Prado. In a lot of markets around the world, it's just Toyota Prado. I hope the US market gets the real full size Land Cruiser that is a complete different SUV.
I’m a bit confused by the complaints here… we’ve got an off-road focused vehicle doing 56mph around a corner marked 30mph and we’re complaining about tiring squealing and handling capabilities? Land Cruisers shifted slowly from off-road centric vehicles to luxury SUVs and PEOPLE STOPPED BUYING THEM!
The decision to go back to a more basic vehicle that excels off-road, allows for aftermarket modular upgrades, and comes in $20k under the previous luxury model is going to make Toyota an insane amount of money. And on the terms of money, they are expensive but in 1994 an 80 series was equivalent to $80k in today’s money. A person not being able to afford it doesn’t make it a bad vehicle.
At $80K I'm getting a a new X5 40i Xdrive on air and buy a set of offroad wheels. My BIL wheeled no problem with his '18 X5 diesel with stock all season tires
Having owned a BMW, I can only say enjoy the fun while it lasts. My 33 year old Land Cruiser is still on its original drivetrain, I’ll never go back to a German car as long as I have more sense than money.
That’s fair, but for comparison we bought a 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara with the 6 speed manual for $51k out the door. It’s loaded too! We spent another $4k on a 3 inch lift, 35s and nice rims, also added a cold air intake. It has 50k on it and it’s been flawless. I understand jeeps can be very expensive too, but it’s hard to justify $88k cdn for a Land Cruiser.
@@christophermckee4022 lmao Toyota uses BMW's B58 powerplant + ZF transmission in the Supra. The new LC uses injectors on the valve cover, plastic intake manifold, plastic cooling reservoirs, an enormous amount of control modules. This new LC is vastly different from the old LC. Your opinion on BMW is as dated as that 33 year old LC. Modern BMWs still have issues, but the headache and complexity is no longer exclusive to BMW. So if I'm spending almost $80k for the same assessed risk and longevity for both modern vehicles, I'm going with a B58 powertrain.
I really like the new Land Cruisers, but the mark ups right now are insane. And the crap handling on the road is disappointing. Congrats on the watch acquisition though. Their GMT’s are some of the coolest GMT’s out there I think. Thanks for taking us on the drive!
Wait, the 3 ton land cruiser understeers when cornering aggressively. Thats crazy
So you complain about the tires being too chatty on the road, but not trail enough for the trail? hmm
So isn’t this like the updated prado Land Cruiser and not the big ones were all used to here in the states? Man the older prado/GX seemed so much better.
omg that tire squeal is a deal breaker….
@17:56 the lack of ground clearance is what's most baffling about this product. lots of reviewers are bottoming this out on easy trails, which is embarassing.
What options are the difference between first edition and the Land Cruiser Land cruiser model? Thanks
Mainly, minor things like a roof rack, rock rails, skid plate, and mud flaps. The LC trim with the Premium Package is a much better value for almost $10k less.
@@TXJ232 1958 (base) gets the round headlights but doesn't get some of the features of the mid trim (land cruiser trim). Land cruiser trim doesn't get round headlights but the square ones. The 1st edition is the only way to get round headlights + features
What would you recommend for new tires and clearance then! TIA for your answer.
New land cruiser , Lexus TX, new Gx550, wow there are too many new models already market but they cost too much
Even with base trim starting at $55k with tax title and whatever markups they got you are in Lexus territory so just get the GX.
How does Landcruiser handling compare to 4Runner Limited and TRD sport that have x-reas suspension and handle quite well for large suv. I also like hydraulic steering on my 4runner.
Now here’s the real question Mr. Topher…. This, or the new GX 550 in the Overtrail/Overtrail+ trim?
GX
@@Damen0530 my thoughts as well. V6 is fun, though it does have its recalls. Next years will be perfect
@@dzonin.8403 mine is supposed to deliver in 2 weeks, fingers crossed!
Hmm, this 18" wheel squeek is there and it is concerning... I wonder if it's the tire type or the high 18" wall? Maybe 20" rim would not exhibit the same behavior?
The tires squeals with traction control active?😮
I’m buying the Lexus overtrail before I even consider this. Cheers!
Are you related to the TopherDrives yt channel? That channel almost had the same contents as you.
Really nice Tudor watch, its a great diet Rolex and I don't mean that disparagingly. Its got a pretty nice sweep as well. Just not in love with the band.
22 seconds ago is crazy
2.4 turbo? Why is so hard driving?
Do you like this better than a 2023 GX460?
GX 460 still holds my heart!
@@TheTopher I am cross shopping the two. I love the GX460 on paper, but the LC is styled so much better. I wonder if the turbo hybrid engines will prove to be reliable.
Once again, the Land Cruiser will leave the US market due to high prices. And this is just the Prado. It’s like the 4Runner and GX make it irrelevant.
the motor just sounds like its being strained out to the max. also imagine working on one of these in 5-10 years
Just a reminder to everyone: USD vs JPY is at its highest point, and this car is Made in Japan…
Sand? Thought that was Trail Dust? Anyway, wow effect for sure!!!
Awesome video as always Topher! Can someone please tell me why does the engine have at least 2 overflow tanks? is it because it's hybrid? so one for the electric motor and the other one is for the combustion engine or what's the deal? Thanks!
hybrid system has separate cooling system
@@chibbyylol copy that, thank you !
I do think this vehicle is priced 4-5k to high across all trim levels when you compare it to the new 4 Runner coming and the GX just above it. Lexus GX550 Premium might be nicer and cheaper.
Frankly a poor value for what it is. Not great at anything. GX makes more sense.
Imagine this with a B58 and better tires. Best car ever?
Is the rear locker engaged bc that squeal tells me so 😂