Thanks to the following people for help with research! Be sure to check their channels out: BillyJoe66: www.twitch.tv/billyjoe66 DiamondcrafterA: www.twitch.tv/diamondcraftera FadeVanity: www.twitch.tv/fadevanity NateCC14: twitter.com/natecc14 Pidgey: www.twitch.tv/pidgey And check out the New Super Mario Bros Wii leaderboard to keep up with other top runners: www.speedrun.com/nsmbw#Any
Hey salt, you may already know them but based on the music in your videos you might enjoy "Boards of Canada". Their album "music has the right to children" is a good starting point if you haven't heard of them. Also thanks for the video, it's always a treat.
At 34:13, talking about saving frames with the goomba, did you accidentally say you lost or saves time backwards? Or did I just misunderstand what was being said? Not criticizing either, it's a legitimate question. Thanks also for these awesome videos!
Honestly, when he was about to mention Pidgey for the first time I was like "omg here comes the Matt Turk..." but it never came... Until the credits, at least. Bursted laughing in my bedroom at 4am XD
I truthfully can’t explain the feeling I get whenever SS goes, in all seriousness, “..and that runner’s name… was BlazeTurds420”. It is a unique sensation.
"And then we'd see a new runner emerge. Someone so talented they'd put all other world record holders to shame. Someone who'd develop many insane skips in the years to come. Their name: ScoobyDoofus420"
SS has a gift. He takes a (let’s be honest, unimportant, inconsequential) speedrun and makes it seem like the most epic thing ever. By the end most of us are like, “Screw the moon landing! These guys beating this other guy’s record in Mike Tyson’s Punch Out is obviously the greatest achievement of mankind!”
The summoning salt bit I’m never gonna get tired of is going “this was undoubtedly a once in a lifetime accomplishment” and then showing the runner do it again. Love this vid
"This run topped the previous run by 0.0002 seconds. It would clearly stand for a long time. But the very next day, a new runner that no one's ever heard of did the impossible... They beat the record, by fifteen seconds."
He's like the dude that has been fucking with computers since the early 80s, there's a level of understanding you get in something from doing it at the ground floor that cannot be replicated
Just want to point out, Pidgey has reclaimed his record since this video came out, and currently holds the wr spot for every single category for this game. Including things like 100%, cannonless, and no world 5
I love how he moves through chronologically and gives credit to the incredible runs that are obsolete these days. It’s easy to look at old runs and not be impressed because of some later exploit. Love these videos so much.
It's what makes these videos legitimately good endeavors. Going from the start and seeing the gradual progress within the game's community really puts it in perspective.
I also like how he includes some near-misses - the record itself is an amazing achievement, but there's something to be said for second place, which so often gets overlooked
Repent to Jesus Christ “Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.” Hebrews 4:16 NIV
I love the addition of the "where are they now" slides. It's the perfect closure to the narratives that you're able to create between these near-total strangers playing an okay Mario game competitively.
Update, they’re sub 22 now. There’s a big skip in bowser’s castle. They guide one fireball up and then run over the top of the level, skipping that part.
That's the thing that sucks about making these videos. It's like, when is the right time to do it? Because once it's uploaded it's too late to edit in later WRs. Now one person gets all the TH-cam glory but there have since been 2 people with faster times.
@@Corn0nTheCobb Every person on that list gets their own share of glory, they were all monumental at some point and it's their reward for being there on the ground floor Every video released generally leaves off with the air of 'who will be next', it's a dive into it at its peak of popularity or just after Excluding things like the original mario bros, any video will become outdated with time but that doesn't make it any less good or insightful - if you want the latest news on anything, you'll have to be a part of that community itself - the rest is history
Yes. Definitely. Absolutely. The final look at the runners' current whereabouts is a great addition which i truly hope we get to see in other videos, not just here or just speedrunning but histories of sports like these in general.
@@EvErLoyaLEagLE Who's Matt Turk, if I may ask? This is my first full Summoning Salt video I've watched, so I may not be familiar with many inside jokes.
46:10 for those who don’t know, Dave Stieb was a pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays in the 1980s. His most infamous accomplishment, and what Salt is referring to here, occurred in September 1988, when he had a no hitter broken up in the 9th inning with 2 outs and 2 strikes (basically the baseball equivalent of Pidgey’s motion control mishap) in back to back starts. The odds of this happening are around 1 in 240 million
The addition of the graph and the ending section of "Where are they now" just add SO MUCH to these already ridicioulusly good videos The quality of this content just feels unmatched. Can't wait for the next one, keep up the great work
The way Summoning Salt builds up every story, making it seem like any time save would require super human precision, making it feel like the climax of the story is about to unfold, but then you realize you're not even half way done with the video. It's magical.
@@B.anan.a no I meant here is also a TH-camr that talks like summoning salt and also made a video about the history of super Mario bros wii speedrunning
That addition at the end with how the runners are doing since then is a really nice touch. Specially just mentioning Matt Turk for the hell of it! Thanks for always being incredible and improving every time, Mr. Salt
@@THEchakkid He was a legendary Punch Out runner from years back, who had basically impossible times with the understanding of the game when he played (all since beaten, of course) and, if I remember correctly, made a sudden appearance in a second video as well unrelated to Punch Out
I love that every runner that breaks the record gets their own little moment to shine in your videos. Briefly, you present them as the coolest, most skilled person in the world. And they all deserve that! They all accomplished something never before done. Yeah it's a silly little game, but it's pushing human reflexes, memory, and coordination to an absolute limit, and I think it's so cool how you give it so much gravitas. Fantastic vid as always!
concentration as well, having to do runs again and again which each individually require utmost concentration for the entire 20 minute duration to preform such precise movement
The inclusion of Matt Turk made me laugh. Imagine leaving such an impactful mark in the speedrunning community that people keep thinking “I haven’t seen his name yet but I know this man’s gonna show up out of nowhere. I just know it”.
It feels absolutely unreal seeing myself in this video. Although I never quite held a WR, I’d like to think that my personal best time proved to the community that Fade could indeed be contested with, as I made a mistake of about 5 seconds in 8-2 and still came within 3 seconds of his run. It’s awesome to see how much further the community has taken the game since then. BillyJoe is such a talented runner and I’m so happy to see his hard work paying off. Watching this was so nostalgic for me and definitely makes me more inclined to make a return to Mario Wii in the near future and leave my mark for good. >:)
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The fake outs you pull like at 44:46 gets me everytime. You have the music, the near-perfect gameplay and then it all goes to shit as you watch the runner sadly fail in the worst way. It makes watching them finally succeed satisfying. You surely know how to invoke emotion with your method of editing. ❤️
pidgey whiffing the record bc of the propeller genuinely felt like a crushing defeat, even if he did it soon after and i think that speaks to SummoningSalt's ability to weave the narratives and timelines of these records always a treat when you upload, man
Your storytelling ability is incredible. You’ve made the incremental progress in a single Super Mario game compelling enough to make me watch an hour of colored dots and Bowser escapes.
One thing I always appreciate in these videos is when Salt says "this happened" and stays quiet to allow the clip of the player to speak for itself. He knows when he doesn't need to explain.
46:12 Clever name drop there :D For those who don't know, Dave Stieb was a pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays in the 80s and 90s who was notoriously unlucky in being able to finish no-hitters, losing four or five of them in the ninth inning.
The use of a chart to plot out the world records and pan over them immediately reminded me of a Jon Bois video, and having him name drop Steib clearly shows that he watches his videos. Crazy to think that SummoningSalt might somehow manage to increase his production level to match Jon Bois. Hard to imagine this series of World Record Progression videos getting any more legendary, but it’s safe to say that we’re about to see some once in a generation videos soon.
When Pidgey whiffed the ending cause of the motion controls i audibly gasped. I can't imagine how crushed they must have felt. To come back from that in less than 2 weeks AND clutch it must have been the most wonderful feeling of relief and joy!
I have a fairly good mentality, but I can’t imagine not retiring on the spot in that situation. Insane level of grit to be able to pull out a record so shortly after that.
Hey, I’m sure this will just get lost in the comments, but it would be super cool if you did a WR progression for Celeste. It’s one of the coolest speed runs IMO.
I really love how when the runners are streaming, a lot of them celebrate by saying “WE did it!” It’s really refreshing to see communities where people are friendly rivals or are working together to beat records set by them or other people. It’s not nasty and people don’t get a big head about it.
@@simonmagus2199 Content creation has its own community which shares optimizations just like speedrunning. While you're looking for tips on how to improve audio quality you'll come across all sorts of, let's call them "audience optimizations". Take the video we just watched: there are a lot of comments praising Salt for making an entertaining video which kept them interested for 31 minutes while talking about a game which the commenter has never played. He has really optimized his content creation process in order to consistently deliver a high quality product. But where do you draw the line between optimizations like re-doing your voiceovers to remove mistakes, false starts, stuttering, weird slurping noises, etc, etc ,etc and so called "sociopathic" optimizations? That is a question every content creator has to face on their own. On one hand, saying "we did it" helps the friends you've made in chat during your journey feel involved, and recognizes their contribution....on the other hand, doing stuff like that helps viewer retention and increases revenue for your stream. So is it humble or sociopathic? I personally like to think that it depends on the streamer themself, and comes on a spectrum. Some streamers may feel 80% humble and 20% entrepreneurial, others may have those numbers flipped. You can't really know from the outside how another person feels, or what their true intentions are, so I have often found it best not to even try to find out, and to only focus on how a person makes you feel on the inside.
@@phaolo6 What is said is true, but I dont necessarily think the motive is to trick.. the runner is performing for the audience. Without being observed and admired, theres almost no point in a record. And they are there for the 1000s of runs that DONT succeed too. So I'm sure the runner starts to feel like the effort is a "we" thing.
The coloured timeline and "where are they now?" at the end are excellent additions. How messy would the timeline be if the times were written? Or if the top three (instead of only WR) were shown?
I swear, every time Summoning Salt holds off on giving a runner's name, I'm bracing for AndrewG or Matt Turk to crash the party. Edit: ... Watch the ending.
The mention of Matt Turk was so unexpected I actually cackled. This was an amazing video, Salt. I love your content so much, you're an incredible storyteller. I get chills every single video.
@@boldoberan One of the greatest speedrunners of all time, mainly known for his domination of the NES Mike Tyson’s Punch Out leaderboard for years. Check the video about this game on summoningsalt channel to understand
"He beat the existing record by one second and didn't record it. The community accepted this at face value." Props to the community for putting that level of trust in someone.
Reminds me of the Quest to Beat Matt Turk. None of his times were filmed, but all were believed, to a point where the community knew he had tricks they didn't, & set out to find the tricks themselves purely based on his times, & they were generally successful. Matt is such a legend.
It’s amazing how bad proof standards used to be sometimes, I was looking back at old Perfect Dark leaderboards and some players are recognised as the first to get formerly prestigious records despite not posting any proof and describing outdated strategies.
The runners recap at the end is such an amazing idea, I guess it was possible because there are just a few record holders in this game, but I hope you can implement it in future videos. This was a great video as always
For those who are interested, the current record holder is Sharpruns with a 21 minute 52 second run. The only other two people to hit sub 21 is BillyJoe and Cads.
Holy shit Pidgey's sequence near the end literally nearly made me tear up. Those kinds of mistakes can be sooo demotivating and devastating, but he bounced back from it and through his efforts managed to achieve the victory he was so close to before. Honestly I feel like I'm practically about to cry even now just thinking about it, this video as a whole was surprisingly powerful.
IIRC in the last video, something like this happened and the runner never recovered from it. So all the more impressive Pidgey bounced back in so short a time.
Choke? Choking is not performing. He celebrated too early and lost it. Like a football player thinking he has a walk in touchdown only to be caught from behind. And 100% agreed. Remarkable recovery!
@@sephie8681 I know, and summoning explained that. Regardless, choke is not the right adjective. He performed admirably and then set the control down early and made a simple honest mistake. Choking would have been having the world record "all but in hand" and then not performing to get it. To me that wasn't the case here.
Bro I could literally hear myself gasp at 20:40 when the timeline showed how much FadeVanity shaved off THAT much time from the previous wr from Auchgard. Your storytelling for these speedrunning videos has been a marvel to witness but adding in the timeline visuals truly does transcend it to whole another level of presentation that I could not imagined before. Man what a roller coaster of emotions I swear...
The WR records timeline and all the current /former WR player recaps at the end are fantastic visual additions to your videos Salt. Love seeing the evolution of your videos along with the speedrunning narrative you put together.
It’s a real credit to the creator of this channel that I was able to sit through a 51 minute video about a game I’ve never played. The story telling is unreal. Kept me glued. Keep up the awesome content.
@@ninaddemaio I've been a Mario fan well over 30 years and I haven't played it either, because I never had a Wii. I have put countless hours into the Wii U game though, and just about every other game in the main series.
@@ninja_tony ive never had a wii u, i bought the wii when it came out so i never was interested in the wii u, it didnt sell good either. so im glad i purchased the wii HAHAHA the best games are on there. but you can still play this super mario bros wii on wii u if you havent played it yet
I mean by that logic, nobody would care to learn anything at all about things they haven't already experienced unless a creator of some sort frames it a certain way to keep a large audience engaged, which is a pretty sad thought. The story of this game's world record has always been interesting, I think Summoning Salt is simply helping us see what was always there! I do agree that the storytelling is amazing lol. I feel like the first sentence of your comment just feels uncomfortably similar to something like "I'm never going to space but I just spent an hour learning about Mars lol" which is depressing because lots of people act like everything they learn has to have some kind of immediate practical use, otherwise it's a waste of time. That's such an awful and destructive way to view information and knowledge lol :( I'm sorry, I'm just thinking out loud, I'm not accusing you anti-intellectualism or anything, but you got me thinking! This is a sentiment I see expressed far too often, the "Lol why did I just spend an hour watching a video about (insert legitimately interesting topic here)" like I dunno dude, because it's interesting? xD
i think it's a great addition in its simplicity. the video is a history of world records for a category, not a history of speedrunning in that category. but the chart is such a good implementation that i think it's got to be a staple from here on out
"He had pulled a Dave Steib" With that line I thought he was about to blow the record chance AGAIN at the last minute. Good to see you like the Secret Base videos though @summoning salt
Well done! Others have said it, but there are some really good additions to your format in this one. I can feel the Jon Bois inspiration with those pixelated turbo zoom ins on dots on a graph.
Agree - and @bismuth - your channel also rocks man! Such great content for the speed running community!!! (From not a runner, but a bad nostalgic gamer) Much love!
Bismuth, I was listening to your voice the other day and I realised you must be the Saturn V rocket. If not then congratulations, you have the same voice as a famous space explorer.
Man this video makes me think of me and little brother, 11 and 8 at the time, beating Bowser for the first time. We didnt know he was gonna have a second phase, we were too young, and the surprise and joy was electric. We played, and played, and played, dying over and over. The determination must have been apparent in our faces and voices since our mom let us keep playing. Once we finally made it to the end, you should have heard the yelling and screaming. The running and jumping on furniture. Man what a time :,)
Please never stop using the song “we’re finally landing” by home, it’s synonymous with your channel and everytime it plays I know it’s a good part coming. Secondly I love the timeline addition, you’re rocking it man keep it up bro, in the top three all time favorite channels right here, much love ❤️
I absolutely adore that you mentioned Dave Stieb after your comment on the Jon Bois documentary. That series brought tears to my eyes, and this game being one of the most important of my early childhood made the out-of-nowhere reference to that monumental feat to describe the speedrunning achievements of this game was just the creme de la creme. Thanks, Summoning Salt.
I always love it when his love of baseball gets a chance to shine, and when he mentioned Dave Stieb i honestly couldn't tell if that was his baseball fandom talking or if he'd seen the Bois series about him and never, ever forgot about it like the rest of us.
46:42 Pidgey’s second chance after the motion fail was so stressful for me! I was worried that the previous fail may affect him especially towards the end of the run, when pressure is the highest (and when coming close to where he previously failed).
I love this new format! The timeline plot paints such a great picture and the "where they are now" segments in the end for all the world record holders is such a nice wrap up to the story (and honestly it really does justice for those people who grinded the game and were able to etch their name as the few into speedrunning history). ALSO that Matt Turk thing in the end LMFAO
Something I'm liking about this game's runs is they're pretty much entirely dev-intended mechanics, just executed very well. Even the autoscroller skip is just clever application of the Propeller Suit's intended uses combined with wall jumps. I know glitched runs take a lot skill too, but sometimes it's nice to speedruns of a nostalgic platformer that don't glitch the game into oblivion.
I was just thinking this, totally agreed. I love a glitch-ridden run as much as the next person but man, it is fun to see such intensely optimized regular gameplay
small pixel perfect glitches for small optimized time saves is what I love most, stuff that are so hard to pull off that not even the world record holder is necessarily using them Then there's the dark side of glitches in runs, like elden ring any% lmao
Jon is unquestionable but in terms of production and writing I have to put LEMMiNO and EmpLemon, at least, above SS, whose writing is honestly starting to get a bit formulaic by comparison. It's serviceable, and he finds interesting twists to put on what is essentially the same story every time, but...it doesn't hold a candle to the things Jon Bois has made me feel.
@@selenamertvykh6481 Emp's videos are good, but his production isn't the greatest. The Jack the Ripper Lemmino video has some of the best production on YT tbf.
****Update**** As of the time of this comment post, Sharpruns is the current record holder at 22m 05s 667ms (LRT). This was set 10 days ago, as of this comment (Mar/15/2023) (the reign lengths of this record have been considerably short recently, so except this record to change sooner than later)
“Pidgey had pulled a Dave Stieb.” Dorktown Secret Base viewer confirmed. I was _just_ thinking during this, “you know what? There’s a lot of similarity here to Dorktown, which is _definitely_ not a bad thing.” It’s a pretty masterful way to present statistics and records, and I applaud you for bringing that level to speedruns!
In his Rainbow Road WRs video, he said that there may not be many athletes named Bob, but there’s one that holds the Rainbow Road WR in reference to another Secret Base video about athletes named Bob
This man has created such an intense cult following that we all stop whatever we're doing to sit down and watch. This is the stuff that people who upload every day can't replicate.
I am so glad I randomly stumbled on this channel. The fact that I can watch long form videos about playing games I’ve never played, in a way which I’ve never been interested in playing them and be totally glued to my screen is a testament to your storytelling ability. I feel like I’m watching a tv show or anime arc with these stories I’m so invested.
Yes I myself found his Mario kart and super Mario 64 because I was searching TAS Mario 64 runs and happened upon Salt's video. His story had me actually crying at points.. so immersive the storytelling is.
Man...history is literally being made everyday, and its beautiful. That wiimote movement was heartbreaking to watch. That Matt Turk though XD A part of me was waiting for that name to pop up and you picked the best time to do so.
The childlike joy that overcomes me upon hearing the very first chord being played in HOME's unforgettable classic at the start of each Summoning Salt video catapults me back to a feeling of innocent bliss that I prized even as a child
@@xanaxwizard You have time right now to change that. The world is headed towards damnation but you can escape it. The last 3000+ years have been a testimony in favor of God's word. Contemplate how to Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome. From this part of scripture we can conclude that A) The God of Israel is the one true God, and He can predict the future or make it happen or B) The Nations and governments have been conspiring together for the last several millenia.There is a video here on youtube titled "From Babylon To America" by SchoolForProphets that covers this. You don't really need to speculate because you can start a relationship with God. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. Our time here is short so i would take full advantage of every moment you have. Have a great day!
“The community considered it the perfect speed run, with no need to defend it. It would be humanly impossible to proceed further” *checks time, 20min out of 51min, chuckles*
The thing I love about summoning salt is the emphasis you put on the emotions surrounding these things. A love held by few, dedicated entirely to their games. Because at the center of it all, people speedrun because the games are fuckin sick.
Excellent video, definitely approve of the timeline/ "where are they now" segments. Merch looks nice too! But I feel like the one thing that would sell the best would be a Summoning Salt shaker.
For anyone curious watching this years later, sub-22 has been now achieved by 8 players. As of writing this, the record holder is a new player, Cads, with 21:49:100. BillyJoe66, Pidgey, and Skippy are all part of that sub-22 group as well.
I really enjoyed the influence Jon Bois has had on Summoning Salt, specifically this video. The gradually building graphic, slow zooms, and sudden terror of the motion controls ruining a run just ooze with that classic Jon Bois style. It would be really cool to see the two do a collaboration some day. Perhaps on some world record history in baseball or something similar.
You’re actually so right. Foolish baseball has a fun video about really fast baseball games that a pitcher has pitched. There’s definitely space for it
I remember Christmas of 2009, waking up early and opening the present that I knew was this game, and playing it until midday on a squeaky wooden chair right in front of the TV while my other presents waited. These videos always give me chills, but because I know this game so well the chills are chillier.
I absolutely adore that he explains literally every single speed running trick used by the world record holders and then 45 MINUTES in he mentions the motion controls. Made me laugh out pretty hard. Excellent video!
when u were talking about how unbeatable Pidgey's last run was, the sudden realization hit me... i hadnt heard *The Song* yet... and then i see that theres more time on the video- *instant chills* -i already know this is about to get rlly impressive
I really love the inclusion of a 'where are they now' type moment at the end of the videos, that and the graph are such major improvements to videos I alreadythought were near perfect. Keep up the amazing work Salt!
I was subscribed to FadeVanity’s TH-cam channel back in 2019, and I’m pretty sure the reason he quit speedrunning was because of mental issues, which really sucks. But also, besides regular speed runs, he actually also did ONE-HANDED versions which at the time and still to this day I think were really impressive. I hope he’s doing well now, and all the best.
Raiker, Auchgard and Fade are the holy trinity of NSMB Wii. Fade might not be speedrunning Mario Wii anymore, but he certainly left a HUGE impact on the NSMBW Speedrun timeline by pulling off Double Bombless in a run and getting that 24:45.
@@JoJo-ke5yz I'd tend to disagree, since the runners are colour-coded. If it wasn't zoomed in, we would also see the far past, which is not what the focus is.
Thanks to the following people for help with research! Be sure to check their channels out:
BillyJoe66: www.twitch.tv/billyjoe66
DiamondcrafterA: www.twitch.tv/diamondcraftera
FadeVanity: www.twitch.tv/fadevanity
NateCC14: twitter.com/natecc14
Pidgey: www.twitch.tv/pidgey
And check out the New Super Mario Bros Wii leaderboard to keep up with other top runners: www.speedrun.com/nsmbw#Any
Incredible video as always!
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Best content on TH-cam by far
Hey salt, you may already know them but based on the music in your videos you might enjoy "Boards of Canada". Their album "music has the right to children" is a good starting point if you haven't heard of them. Also thanks for the video, it's always a treat.
At 34:13, talking about saving frames with the goomba, did you accidentally say you lost or saves time backwards? Or did I just misunderstand what was being said? Not criticizing either, it's a legitimate question. Thanks also for these awesome videos!
"If he could pull that off, it would be an essentially unbeatable speedrun."
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Finally it’s here ,
I literally checked the length of the video when he said that!!! lololol
my exact reaction
Noooo I cant believe it wasn't unbeatable
If there is anything trackmania vids have taught me, it just takes a new method to change the game
The timeline and “Where Are They Now?” are such great additions. This series gets better with each new video
My thought exactly.
I concur.
yeah exactly, we get a bit more of their current info even if they stopped speedrunnin, its really cool
This comment needs more likes. I almost clicked away to a different video at the end but really appreciated the out-tro
Honestly, when he was about to mention Pidgey for the first time I was like "omg here comes the Matt Turk..." but it never came...
Until the credits, at least. Bursted laughing in my bedroom at 4am XD
I truthfully can’t explain the feeling I get whenever SS goes, in all seriousness, “..and that runner’s name… was BlazeTurds420”. It is a unique sensation.
"And then we'd see a new runner emerge. Someone so talented they'd put all other world record holders to shame. Someone who'd develop many insane skips in the years to come. Their name: ScoobyDoofus420"
"And ShiveringEroticKingBanana" is still my favorite. From Ninja Gaiden if I remember right
SS has a gift. He takes a (let’s be honest, unimportant, inconsequential) speedrun and makes it seem like the most epic thing ever. By the end most of us are like, “Screw the moon landing! These guys beating this other guy’s record in Mike Tyson’s Punch Out is obviously the greatest achievement of mankind!”
...maybe we just call him Salt for short instead lol
@@misteryA555 Oh yeah, SS is...um...that other thing. Maybe "Salt" is best lol
>Pulls off an impossibility in a run
>Destroys the record with that run
>Disappears from the internet
>refuses to elaborate
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@@shhyeehaha Nah i was just addicted to greentexts on Kym at that time.
@@spimuru5040greentexts are fun quite often
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The summoning salt bit I’m never gonna get tired of is going “this was undoubtedly a once in a lifetime accomplishment” and then showing the runner do it again. Love this vid
"This run topped the previous run by 0.0002 seconds. It would clearly stand for a long time. But the very next day, a new runner that no one's ever heard of did the impossible... They beat the record, by fifteen seconds."
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True, but the thing that Salt does that always makes me laugh is when he mentions Matt Turk. And yes, towards the end he does it.
The timeline is my favorite addition to videos. It's visually pleasing.
It's DAT HOTNESS
I like it too ... wish it was a little higher res though ngl, especially when zoomed in. Buncha blurry dots
It'd be nice if there was data points for record times and dates, as well.
Agreed. Besides the story telling.
It reminds me a lot of some of the effects that JonBois uses in his visual storytelling if you know any of his stuff
Always remember: Matt Turk is never too far behind your world record, even if he has never ran the game before.
God, that bit killed me.
We're gonna need Matt Turk on this game, just so he can lower the record to sub-22 within a week or so.
We need the legend Andrew G. as well
Insert Chuck Norris joke here.
He's like the dude that has been fucking with computers since the early 80s, there's a level of understanding you get in something from doing it at the ground floor that cannot be replicated
Just want to point out, Pidgey has reclaimed his record since this video came out, and currently holds the wr spot for every single category for this game. Including things like 100%, cannonless, and no world 5
Fucking legend
Pidgey is easily the most skilled runner to date
Yet again, Pidgey loses the World Record.
As of August 12th, 2022, the World Record is 22:07.100 by Cadens225
@@mudkipsr5663 he’ll most likely take it back again. He’s done it before 🤷🏽♂️
@@qcbj16 nope. Unfortunately he died today
I love how he moves through chronologically and gives credit to the incredible runs that are obsolete these days. It’s easy to look at old runs and not be impressed because of some later exploit. Love these videos so much.
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
It's what makes these videos legitimately good endeavors. Going from the start and seeing the gradual progress within the game's community really puts it in perspective.
I also like how he includes some near-misses - the record itself is an amazing achievement, but there's something to be said for second place, which so often gets overlooked
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.”
Hebrews 4:16 NIV
Yes sir
I love the addition of the "where are they now" slides. It's the perfect closure to the narratives that you're able to create between these near-total strangers playing an okay Mario game competitively.
It also alleviated a lot of stress personally cause I always get super anxious when people stop being mentioned in these videos haha
I was glad they were there. Throughoit the video I thought the runners were trying to beat Matt Turk but turns out he hasn't speedran the game... yet
In MASSIVE agreement. Old movies that did this were the best. The only thing salt has to add now is a hidden preview at the end of the credits...
The Matt Turk slide got me good
*Spoilers.*
Plot twist: the loading times are different because the frame rule bus randomly gets flat tires
I could hear those tires screeching just by reading the comment.
That doesn't seem realistic at this point.
No it's a Uber pool bus it's got more passengers...he should sell shirts with the framerule bus schedule. I'd buy that for a dollar
I swear ss only does Mario videos for us to talk bout the damn bus in the comments...now with commercials to buy shit
based on mario's sub pixel position
Update, they’re sub 22 now. There’s a big skip in bowser’s castle. They guide one fireball up and then run over the top of the level, skipping that part.
Who was the first to get sub 22?
That's the thing that sucks about making these videos. It's like, when is the right time to do it? Because once it's uploaded it's too late to edit in later WRs.
Now one person gets all the TH-cam glory but there have since been 2 people with faster times.
@@garrettcarmichael1119 Cads, in June 2023. Then Sharpruns beat it almost a month later.
@@Corn0nTheCobb Thanks bro
@@Corn0nTheCobb Every person on that list gets their own share of glory, they were all monumental at some point and it's their reward for being there on the ground floor
Every video released generally leaves off with the air of 'who will be next', it's a dive into it at its peak of popularity or just after
Excluding things like the original mario bros, any video will become outdated with time but that doesn't make it any less good or insightful - if you want the latest news on anything, you'll have to be a part of that community itself - the rest is history
The timeline, the "where are they now" ending sequence... if this is the future of Summoning Salt videos, then consider me VERY excited for it.
FUCKING YES
also Matt Turk had me laughing
@@kolkoki Agreed
Yes
Yes. Definitely. Absolutely. The final look at the runners' current whereabouts is a great addition which i truly hope we get to see in other videos, not just here or just speedrunning but histories of sports like these in general.
I was going to be saying the exact same thing, but I'll simply voice my FULL support of that here, instead. All of my yes!
The "Where are they now" ending segment is amazing and I hope it stays like the timelines did.
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
When he mentioned Matt Turk, I immediately laughed! A good inside joke for this series.
@@EvErLoyaLEagLE I found that funny too
Agreed, great adddition.
@@EvErLoyaLEagLE Who's Matt Turk, if I may ask? This is my first full Summoning Salt video I've watched, so I may not be familiar with many inside jokes.
"matt turk - he has not speedran this game.... yet" had me cackling. what a real rollercoaster of a ride. absolutely fantastic
same, it finished off the vid beautifully
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
if matt turk submits a run now, even if it isn't record, the category has peaked
That was a good inside joke of this series
46:10 for those who don’t know, Dave Stieb was a pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays in the 1980s. His most infamous accomplishment, and what Salt is referring to here, occurred in September 1988, when he had a no hitter broken up in the 9th inning with 2 outs and 2 strikes (basically the baseball equivalent of Pidgey’s motion control mishap) in back to back starts. The odds of this happening are around 1 in 240 million
Thanks for this. I’m still just as confused but I would be much more confused without you
Can't believe I've never heard of this, it's actually astounding
There was also Harvey Haddix who threw 12 perfect innings and was one at bat away from a completed perfect game
The Secret Base references are growing!
@@MistressBlah theyve both mentioned each other in multiple vids. the Jon Bois Summing Salt collab is inevitable
The addition of the graph and the ending section of "Where are they now" just add SO MUCH to these already ridicioulusly good videos
The quality of this content just feels unmatched. Can't wait for the next one, keep up the great work
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Finally it’s here ,
I hope this becomes a recurring thing
I'm just waiting for the video where some crazy run gets discovered, and the line just goes straight downwards
only mumkey jones can do it better
I second this notion. The graph is a beautiful new addition.
Amazing work as always
The way Summoning Salt builds up every story, making it seem like any time save would require super human precision, making it feel like the climax of the story is about to unfold, but then you realize you're not even half way done with the video. It's magical.
Unreal God level youtuber
some youtuber like summoning salt also made a speedrun history of super mario bros wii. and he said it exactly like summoning salt
@@B.anan.a no I meant here is also a TH-camr that talks like summoning salt and also made a video about the history of super Mario bros wii speedrunning
i was 19 minutes into the video thinking it was almost over, when it was only just beginning
That addition at the end with how the runners are doing since then is a really nice touch. Specially just mentioning Matt Turk for the hell of it! Thanks for always being incredible and improving every time, Mr. Salt
Ohh, as a newbie to this culture, could you please explain the "Matt Turk" reference to me? Thank you!
@@THEchakkid Watch another one of Salt's videos called "The quest to beat Matt Turk". I personally think it's his best video yet.
@@THEchakkid He was a legendary Punch Out runner from years back, who had basically impossible times with the understanding of the game when he played (all since beaten, of course) and, if I remember correctly, made a sudden appearance in a second video as well unrelated to Punch Out
@@Bubbly_Dragon Contra. He's primarily a NES/SNES runner afaik
@@elijahpadilla5083 i believe Turk is actually now a fairly prominent MK8DX runner. Not 100% on that
I love that every runner that breaks the record gets their own little moment to shine in your videos. Briefly, you present them as the coolest, most skilled person in the world. And they all deserve that! They all accomplished something never before done.
Yeah it's a silly little game, but it's pushing human reflexes, memory, and coordination to an absolute limit, and I think it's so cool how you give it so much gravitas. Fantastic vid as always!
concentration as well, having to do runs again and again which each individually require utmost concentration for the entire 20 minute duration to preform such precise movement
The inclusion of Matt Turk made me laugh. Imagine leaving such an impactful mark in the speedrunning community that people keep thinking “I haven’t seen his name yet but I know this man’s gonna show up out of nowhere. I just know it”.
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
@sxc 🔞👇 Begone, Bot.
He was truly a legend, and a key player in the beginnings of this channel
It feels absolutely unreal seeing myself in this video. Although I never quite held a WR, I’d like to think that my personal best time proved to the community that Fade could indeed be contested with, as I made a mistake of about 5 seconds in 8-2 and still came within 3 seconds of his run. It’s awesome to see how much further the community has taken the game since then. BillyJoe is such a talented runner and I’m so happy to see his hard work paying off. Watching this was so nostalgic for me and definitely makes me more inclined to make a return to Mario Wii in the near future and leave my mark for good. >:)
I'm sure you can pull another great time, good luck mate!
Thank you for your contributions to the NSMBW speedrun community!!!
Love the little "where are they now" at the end! The timeline was real nice, though the zoomed pixellated circles were a bit rough to watch.
Also probably would have been fine if it didn't have that anti-aliasing blur.
I actually like it - it adds to the retro aesthetic of the videos 😊
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Agreed, I would love to see the "where are they now" bits reappear in more videos.
(0:08) HOME - We’re Finally Landing
(1:37) Chris Doerksen - Perhaps Something More
(2:50) Chris Doerksen - Bon Voyage
(5:46) HOME - Byzantium
(7:33) Chris Doerksen - Summoning Salt
(9:05) Chris Doerksen - Perspective
(10:20) Chris Doerksen - Next In Line
(11:56) Chris Doerksen - Flashback
(13:13) Amie Waters - KAWAAKARI
(16:50) Amie Waters - SN 1054
(19:08) HOME - Abandon Planet
(20:07) Chris Doerksen - The Polyhedron
(21:46) HOME - Sunshower
(22:58) Chris Doerksen - Loading Screen
(24:48) TheOfficialLobst - Cosmos
(25:57) HOME - Still Life
(27:49) HOME - New Machines
(30:03) HOME - The Moment Before
(32:10) HOME - Before The Night
(34:43) Chris Doerksen - We Made It
(38:46) Chris Doerksen - Night Running
(40:28) HOME - Head First
(42:25) HOME - Odyssey
(43:55) HOME - 4
(45:29) Amie Waters - ALAMORT
(46:06) HOME - 4
(48:28) HOME - We’re Finally Landing
44:46 my jaw actually dropped. That one even HURT to watch so I cant imagine how it must have felt for him in that precise moment. Yikes.
It's the NSBW version of missing the final star jump in Super Mario 64. You know exactly what jump I'm referring to.
SAMEE
@WebBrowser yes. These last second things screwing people over!
i actually felt my heart skip a beat /srs
I threw my phone in heartbreak. I felt that pain
That ending where you said where the world record holders are now are an excellent touch, and I hope they become a regular ending to your videos!
The matt turk addition was class lol
Yeah, I really really liked this addition. Hope it's here to stay.
"The community felt he had a perfect run, that it was virtually unbeatable"
**checks timer** 1/2 way through video
ohhh this is gonna be good.
Glad I am not the only one who did that. lol
the summoningsalt classic
The fake outs you pull like at 44:46 gets me everytime. You have the music, the near-perfect gameplay and then it all goes to shit as you watch the runner sadly fail in the worst way. It makes watching them finally succeed satisfying. You surely know how to invoke emotion with your method of editing. ❤️
pidgey whiffing the record bc of the propeller genuinely felt like a crushing defeat, even if he did it soon after
and i think that speaks to SummoningSalt's ability to weave the narratives and timelines of these records
always a treat when you upload, man
fr i audibly gasped at that
You either let it break you, or become unbreakable. So dam cool
I actually gasped at 44:46
Tomatoa speedruns when???
Me too!
Ayyy Schaff
Watching this at 3:30 am and almost woke my family up cause I screamed "NO!!!!"
me too
Your storytelling ability is incredible. You’ve made the incremental progress in a single Super Mario game compelling enough to make me watch an hour of colored dots and Bowser escapes.
I just realized how long the video is, truly greatly crafted!
One thing I always appreciate in these videos is when Salt says "this happened" and stays quiet to allow the clip of the player to speak for itself. He knows when he doesn't need to explain.
Also "And then, he did this...".
"...and that runners name... is Matt Turk"
meat rider
46:12 Clever name drop there :D For those who don't know, Dave Stieb was a pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays in the 80s and 90s who was notoriously unlucky in being able to finish no-hitters, losing four or five of them in the ninth inning.
and the latest muse of a mr. jon bois
The use of a chart to plot out the world records and pan over them immediately reminded me of a Jon Bois video, and having him name drop Steib clearly shows that he watches his videos. Crazy to think that SummoningSalt might somehow manage to increase his production level to match Jon Bois.
Hard to imagine this series of World Record Progression videos getting any more legendary, but it’s safe to say that we’re about to see some once in a generation videos soon.
@@Tyler-dw4zy he and jon bois have tweeted at each other a few times if you follow them both
@@Tyler-dw4zy
He's referenced The Bob Emergency in a video previously as well.
@@GoodGarret777 when did he do that?
When Pidgey whiffed the ending cause of the motion controls i audibly gasped. I can't imagine how crushed they must have felt. To come back from that in less than 2 weeks AND clutch it must have been the most wonderful feeling of relief and joy!
vouch
Haha I did the same thing
I have a fairly good mentality, but I can’t imagine not retiring on the spot in that situation. Insane level of grit to be able to pull out a record so shortly after that.
Really strong mindset, impressive
I was like: "What just happened?"
Hey, I’m sure this will just get lost in the comments, but it would be super cool if you did a WR progression for Celeste. It’s one of the coolest speed runs IMO.
I legit came to the comments section to leave this exact comment.
REAL
^^ this!!
here's hopium that it happens
true
I really love how when the runners are streaming, a lot of them celebrate by saying “WE did it!” It’s really refreshing to see communities where people are friendly rivals or are working together to beat records set by them or other people. It’s not nasty and people don’t get a big head about it.
Mm.. that's just a super common streamer trick to engage viewers and not appear full of themselves. I'd frankly prefer if they said "I did it".
@@phaolo6 if that's a "common trick" that really seems sociopathic. either that or you're overly cynical.
@@simonmagus2199 Content creation has its own community which shares optimizations just like speedrunning. While you're looking for tips on how to improve audio quality you'll come across all sorts of, let's call them "audience optimizations".
Take the video we just watched: there are a lot of comments praising Salt for making an entertaining video which kept them interested for 31 minutes while talking about a game which the commenter has never played. He has really optimized his content creation process in order to consistently deliver a high quality product. But where do you draw the line between optimizations like re-doing your voiceovers to remove mistakes, false starts, stuttering, weird slurping noises, etc, etc ,etc and so called "sociopathic" optimizations?
That is a question every content creator has to face on their own. On one hand, saying "we did it" helps the friends you've made in chat during your journey feel involved, and recognizes their contribution....on the other hand, doing stuff like that helps viewer retention and increases revenue for your stream. So is it humble or sociopathic? I personally like to think that it depends on the streamer themself, and comes on a spectrum. Some streamers may feel 80% humble and 20% entrepreneurial, others may have those numbers flipped. You can't really know from the outside how another person feels, or what their true intentions are, so I have often found it best not to even try to find out, and to only focus on how a person makes you feel on the inside.
@LateNightTableCo
ok jr
@@phaolo6
What is said is true, but I dont necessarily think the motive is to trick.. the runner is performing for the audience. Without being observed and admired, theres almost no point in a record. And they are there for the 1000s of runs that DONT succeed too. So I'm sure the runner starts to feel like the effort is a "we" thing.
The coloured timeline and "where are they now?" at the end are excellent additions.
How messy would the timeline be if the times were written? Or if the top three (instead of only WR) were shown?
I think the top three idea is great, with #3 just fading out when a new point is added
I swear, every time Summoning Salt holds off on giving a runner's name, I'm bracing for AndrewG or Matt Turk to crash the party.
Edit: ... Watch the ending.
Or 420 blazeit lmao
Watch the end of the video...
@@OneOneTwo112 Literally just finished.
He's like a boogey man that pops up when you least expect him
😂
Oh god I haven't go to the end yet and this comment is so fucking menacing
Edit: I almost did a spit take
The mention of Matt Turk was so unexpected I actually cackled. This was an amazing video, Salt. I love your content so much, you're an incredible storyteller. I get chills every single video.
Who is Matt Turk?
@@boldoberan One of the greatest speedrunners of all time, mainly known for his domination of the NES Mike Tyson’s Punch Out leaderboard for years. Check the video about this game on summoningsalt channel to understand
Matt Turk has become an inside joke and I love it so much
I was fully expecting his name to drop at 10:48.
I was partially expecting andrewg way earlier on in the video
"He beat the existing record by one second and didn't record it. The community accepted this at face value."
Props to the community for putting that level of trust in someone.
Reminds me of the Quest to Beat Matt Turk. None of his times were filmed, but all were believed, to a point where the community knew he had tricks they didn't, & set out to find the tricks themselves purely based on his times, & they were generally successful. Matt is such a legend.
@@jojoversus1100 Well, his times and his notes. Turk was easy to believe because he had extensive notes on the mechanics of the fights.
It’s amazing how bad proof standards used to be sometimes, I was looking back at old Perfect Dark leaderboards and some players are recognised as the first to get formerly prestigious records despite not posting any proof and describing outdated strategies.
@@justanotheryoutubechannel to be fair that's not really the same thing as an established skilled runner not recording a run once
The runners recap at the end is such an amazing idea, I guess it was possible because there are just a few record holders in this game, but I hope you can implement it in future videos. This was a great video as always
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
Reminds me of the end of movies when they show where all the characters ended up
Came here to say this. Great addition!
I love how Matt Turk has truly become something of a legend in the Speedrun community. 51:16
Dread him. Run from him. Matt Turk still arrives all the same.
@@IanMustafa he is, inevitable
Hey the man had to get into something after his time in the NFL lol
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Turk
@@JWex-jy7sk That is actually hilarious. I hope so much that that is the actual Matt Turk. Would be hilarious
The dude who convinces salt to do Jesus Christ RPG will be one too
Reasons for getting a record in speedrunning:
Respect from the community
Getting that sub-barrier
*You get to be in a Summoning Salt video*
For those who are interested, the current record holder is Sharpruns with a 21 minute 52 second run. The only other two people to hit sub 21 is BillyJoe and Cads.
Pidgey is getting close
sub 21 means a 20 minute run.
that's not sub 21 its sub 22...
Holy shit Pidgey's sequence near the end literally nearly made me tear up. Those kinds of mistakes can be sooo demotivating and devastating, but he bounced back from it and through his efforts managed to achieve the victory he was so close to before. Honestly I feel like I'm practically about to cry even now just thinking about it, this video as a whole was surprisingly powerful.
IIRC in the last video, something like this happened and the runner never recovered from it. So all the more impressive Pidgey bounced back in so short a time.
Motion control moment
All I have to say is... never celebrate early. Shit happens so unexpectedly like that.
My heart sank the moment I saw Mario fly into the air just before hitting the button
I love the color coding on the timeline and the "where are they now" segment at the end. Your videos continue to be amazing, keep at it!
"Matt Turk - He has not run this game"
@@twally87 … yet
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@@twally87 ok pool
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Finally it’s here
That was probably the most heartbreaking choke I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot of them. Amazing how quickly he recovered from that.
he didn't even press any buttons too
Choke? Choking is not performing. He celebrated too early and lost it. Like a football player thinking he has a walk in touchdown only to be caught from behind. And 100% agreed. Remarkable recovery!
@@gregkrueger4212 it wasn’t an early celebration, he wanted to split and those motion controls are sensitive
@@sephie8681 I know, and summoning explained that. Regardless, choke is not the right adjective. He performed admirably and then set the control down early and made a simple honest mistake. Choking would have been having the world record "all but in hand" and then not performing to get it. To me that wasn't the case here.
@@gregkrueger4212 agreed!! A choke would be more like having a terrible overall final escape run rather than just the final propeller mistake
Bro I could literally hear myself gasp at 20:40 when the timeline showed how much FadeVanity shaved off THAT much time from the previous wr from Auchgard. Your storytelling for these speedrunning videos has been a marvel to witness but adding in the timeline visuals truly does transcend it to whole another level of presentation that I could not imagined before. Man what a roller coaster of emotions I swear...
Same. It was insane
Yessss that moment was so cool and I loved it too haha
I think I gasped too the first time😂
The music playing there as well… Chilling
I saw that line and I was like "WHAT"
The WR records timeline and all the current /former WR player recaps at the end are fantastic visual additions to your videos Salt. Love seeing the evolution of your videos along with the speedrunning narrative you put together.
It’s a real credit to the creator of this channel that I was able to sit through a 51 minute video about a game I’ve never played. The story telling is unreal. Kept me glued. Keep up the awesome content.
u never played ?? ive been playing since i was 8 and completely finished it with i was 14 😭😭 took me so long
@@ninaddemaio I've been a Mario fan well over 30 years and I haven't played it either, because I never had a Wii. I have put countless hours into the Wii U game though, and just about every other game in the main series.
@@ninja_tony ive never had a wii u, i bought the wii when it came out so i never was interested in the wii u, it didnt sell good either. so im glad i purchased the wii HAHAHA the best games are on there. but you can still play this super mario bros wii on wii u if you havent played it yet
I mean by that logic, nobody would care to learn anything at all about things they haven't already experienced unless a creator of some sort frames it a certain way to keep a large audience engaged, which is a pretty sad thought. The story of this game's world record has always been interesting, I think Summoning Salt is simply helping us see what was always there!
I do agree that the storytelling is amazing lol. I feel like the first sentence of your comment just feels uncomfortably similar to something like "I'm never going to space but I just spent an hour learning about Mars lol" which is depressing because lots of people act like everything they learn has to have some kind of immediate practical use, otherwise it's a waste of time. That's such an awful and destructive way to view information and knowledge lol :(
I'm sorry, I'm just thinking out loud, I'm not accusing you anti-intellectualism or anything, but you got me thinking! This is a sentiment I see expressed far too often, the "Lol why did I just spend an hour watching a video about (insert legitimately interesting topic here)" like I dunno dude, because it's interesting? xD
SummoningSalt makes excellent history videos
"This was very close to being a perfect speedrun"
*checks time*
*still over half an hour left*
"Oh was it now?"
13:38 absolutely stellar editing here. love how the chart not only helps visualise the statistics, but also helps with moving the story along too
The WR history chart is a good idea. I'm interested to see it improve, maybe showing the other competition above it.
i think it's a great addition in its simplicity. the video is a history of world records for a category, not a history of speedrunning in that category. but the chart is such a good implementation that i think it's got to be a staple from here on out
I would had liked to see the second and third place as dotted lines
Tbh another good idea would be Jesus Christ RPG, such a nice speedgame
"He had pulled a Dave Steib"
With that line I thought he was about to blow the record chance AGAIN at the last minute. Good to see you like the Secret Base videos though @summoning salt
I was looking for @jon_bois in the comments
Glad someone commented on it. I loved it.
Love the reference.
I lost it when he said he pulled a Dave Steib. I love Jon Bois.
I actually had to rewind it like 3 times to make sure I'd heard it right
Well done! Others have said it, but there are some really good additions to your format in this one. I can feel the Jon Bois inspiration with those pixelated turbo zoom ins on dots on a graph.
Yeah
Not to mention the Dave Stieb reference at 46:11
Agree - and @bismuth - your channel also rocks man! Such great content for the speed running community!!! (From not a runner, but a bad nostalgic gamer) Much love!
Bismuth, I was listening to your voice the other day and I realised you must be the Saturn V rocket. If not then congratulations, you have the same voice as a famous space explorer.
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Finally it's here ,
Man this video makes me think of me and little brother, 11 and 8 at the time, beating Bowser for the first time. We didnt know he was gonna have a second phase, we were too young, and the surprise and joy was electric. We played, and played, and played, dying over and over. The determination must have been apparent in our faces and voices since our mom let us keep playing. Once we finally made it to the end, you should have heard the yelling and screaming. The running and jumping on furniture. Man what a time :,)
Please never stop using the song “we’re finally landing” by home, it’s synonymous with your channel and everytime it plays I know it’s a good part coming. Secondly I love the timeline addition, you’re rocking it man keep it up bro, in the top three all time favorite channels right here, much love ❤️
i second this, wholeheartedly
I third this, wholesomely!
i fourth this, completely!
I sixth this, absolutely!
that being said, please publicly credit it more as I swear some people don't even know it exists outside of Summoning Salt
I absolutely adore that you mentioned Dave Stieb after your comment on the Jon Bois documentary. That series brought tears to my eyes, and this game being one of the most important of my early childhood made the out-of-nowhere reference to that monumental feat to describe the speedrunning achievements of this game was just the creme de la creme. Thanks, Summoning Salt.
I always love it when his love of baseball gets a chance to shine, and when he mentioned Dave Stieb i honestly couldn't tell if that was his baseball fandom talking or if he'd seen the Bois series about him and never, ever forgot about it like the rest of us.
46:42 Pidgey’s second chance after the motion fail was so stressful for me! I was worried that the previous fail may affect him especially towards the end of the run, when pressure is the highest (and when coming close to where he previously failed).
SAMEEE
The graph is a nice addition. Really helps visualize the timeline. Especially in the 3 consecutive day part
Ya unless you get a dong 13:45
I love this new format! The timeline plot paints such a great picture and the "where they are now" segments in the end for all the world record holders is such a nice wrap up to the story (and honestly it really does justice for those people who grinded the game and were able to etch their name as the few into speedrunning history). ALSO that Matt Turk thing in the end LMFAO
I can't even imagine how it'd feel losing the record because their cutscene was faster than yours.
if it was cause of doritos and ketchup I wouldn't be as upset
It always annoyed me how things that are fully uncontrollable aren't cut from the time. Like the cutscenes in Wii sports
Something I'm liking about this game's runs is they're pretty much entirely dev-intended mechanics, just executed very well. Even the autoscroller skip is just clever application of the Propeller Suit's intended uses combined with wall jumps. I know glitched runs take a lot skill too, but sometimes it's nice to speedruns of a nostalgic platformer that don't glitch the game into oblivion.
I was just thinking this, totally agreed. I love a glitch-ridden run as much as the next person but man, it is fun to see such intensely optimized regular gameplay
small pixel perfect glitches for small optimized time saves is what I love most, stuff that are so hard to pull off that not even the world record holder is necessarily using them
Then there's the dark side of glitches in runs, like elden ring any% lmao
I don't know how summoning salt got the power to summon everyone on the earth whenever he uploads but he did
He uses high quality salt for his summoning circles.
Well he is called SUMMONING Salt, after all
he summons everyone every time thanks to that wonderful beginning music of course
The trick is the salt
Yes
46:01 was the most relieving moment in summoningSalt history, if not all time
Mad respect to pidgey. I know myself well enough to know. If that was me, I would have quit the speedrunning scene of that game altogether after that
46:58 be like
Idk man I think 51:13 might have it beat
with the droning in the background, masterpiece
I would give you a Like, but since you have 666 of them, I won't be moving the counter
46:10 "Pidgey had pulled a Dave Stieb"
I'm living for this TH-cam crossover universe.
whenever summoning salt uploads it feels like a holiday
So True
fax
Amen to that :3
it is a holiday. celebrated by me anyway
That intro music warms my heart.
"Pulled a Dave Steib" I love how the two best story tellers on YT acknowledge each other despite not making videos on the same topic!
Idk, we got his punch out speedruns and fighting in the age of loneliness (I think that's the title). That's the same thing, right?
Jon is unquestionable but in terms of production and writing I have to put LEMMiNO and EmpLemon, at least, above SS, whose writing is honestly starting to get a bit formulaic by comparison. It's serviceable, and he finds interesting twists to put on what is essentially the same story every time, but...it doesn't hold a candle to the things Jon Bois has made me feel.
@@selenamertvykh6481 Emp's videos are good, but his production isn't the greatest. The Jack the Ripper Lemmino video has some of the best production on YT tbf.
When did Jon bois mention summoning salt
@@benmorales2005 twitter
No Andrew G appearance?? We really have entered a new age of Mario here
Welcome to the Future, Old Man.
True
13:21 very subtle Salt, very subtle
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At least there's a brief appearance from Matt Turk.
****Update****
As of the time of this comment post, Sharpruns is the current record holder at 22m 05s 667ms (LRT).
This was set 10 days ago, as of this comment (Mar/15/2023)
(the reign lengths of this record have been considerably short recently, so except this record to change sooner than later)
at time of this comment (6/10/24) Cads is the first (and only) person the break the 21:50 barrier with a time of 21m 49s 100ms (LRT), the current WR
I like the new ending talking about what the key runners are up too. Hopefully Salt continues to do that in the future.
The one game I've ever submitted a run for, looking forward to watching this!
Ok
if theres ever a complete RNG strat discovered in this game, you should totally run it again, its the most free wr known to man for you
Gratz on 100k toad love your ironman series!
BIG SLUGGIN, HULKING WANKIN BOPPIN BAWWWLZZZZ
Too bad salt didn't say your name
“Pidgey had pulled a Dave Stieb.” Dorktown Secret Base viewer confirmed. I was _just_ thinking during this, “you know what? There’s a lot of similarity here to Dorktown, which is _definitely_ not a bad thing.” It’s a pretty masterful way to present statistics and records, and I applaud you for bringing that level to speedruns!
hey man. some of us are just old blue jays fans
I instantly recognized this as well, the timing was just too perfect!
SS and Jon Bois have payed homage to each other multiple times lol
@@murakii Game recognize Game. Literally.
In his Rainbow Road WRs video, he said that there may not be many athletes named Bob, but there’s one that holds the Rainbow Road WR in reference to another Secret Base video about athletes named Bob
playing this game as a kid has to be one of the best memories
@@MoweepOwO Lmao I had the exact same thought. As a kid I was playing and struggling to complete Super Mario 1 for NES.
It truly was one of the memories of when i was a kid.
as a kid i was in arcades trying to get Asteroids high scores
Agreed but I don't think it beats as a kid having played the classics that laid the foundations for everything we see today
Yeah I used to play this with my dad when I was younger great game
Pidgey’s accidental spin is one of humanity’s greatest tragedies
Nah. It was good. It brought him to new levels
This man has created such an intense cult following that we all stop whatever we're doing to sit down and watch. This is the stuff that people who upload every day can't replicate.
quality vs quantity
Hurrah for Summoning Salt, Long May he Ever Upload.
Fax I literally logout of twitch and said bye to the streamer at the moment that I saw that summoningsalt dropped a video.
@@robert.adamek would be nice if youtube valued quality more often than quantity
44:44 Physically hurt to watch.
But man the redemption was nothing short of glorious.
I am so glad I randomly stumbled on this channel. The fact that I can watch long form videos about playing games I’ve never played, in a way which I’ve never been interested in playing them and be totally glued to my screen is a testament to your storytelling ability. I feel like I’m watching a tv show or anime arc with these stories I’m so invested.
Yes I myself found his Mario kart and super Mario 64 because I was searching TAS Mario 64 runs and happened upon Salt's video.
His story had me actually crying at points.. so immersive the storytelling is.
Man...history is literally being made everyday, and its beautiful. That wiimote movement was heartbreaking to watch.
That Matt Turk though XD A part of me was waiting for that name to pop up and you picked the best time to do so.
Matt Turk comment made me laugh hard. I liked the little "What are they doing now?" bit, but that one was not expected at all.
He is an absolute legend, he deserves mention, even if he never ran the game!
The childlike joy that overcomes me upon hearing the very first chord being played in HOME's unforgettable classic at the start of each Summoning Salt video catapults me back to a feeling of innocent bliss that I prized even as a child
It truly is like the hype we got for a game as a kid, only now it's not about playing it but watching it
Off topic but have you accepted Jesus as your Savior?
@@JuicyJenitals no mate sorry
@@xanaxwizard You have time right now to change that. The world is headed towards damnation but you can escape it. The last 3000+ years have been a testimony in favor of God's word. Contemplate how to Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome. From this part of scripture we can conclude that A) The God of Israel is the one true God, and He can predict the future or make it happen or B) The Nations and governments have been conspiring together for the last several millenia.There is a video here on youtube titled "From Babylon To America" by SchoolForProphets that covers this.
You don't really need to speculate because you can start a relationship with God. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. Our time here is short so i would take full advantage of every moment you have. Have a great day!
@@JuicyJenitals I'm sorry but hacking accounts trying to push religion is dystopian as fuck
“The community considered it the perfect speed run, with no need to defend it. It would be humanly impossible to proceed further”
*checks time, 20min out of 51min, chuckles*
th-cam.com/video/IQEGzucsN40/w-d-xo.html
Finally it's here ,
I always look when he says anything like that. He never says it at the end, I guess in case some new strat is discovered in the future.
Excellent as always. The Dave Stieb reference/comparison was perfect.
Summoning salt Jon bois fan confirmed
I love the "where are they now" ending, a great addition to a fantastic series!
Especially the one for Matt Turk! xD
The thing I love about summoning salt is the emphasis you put on the emotions surrounding these things. A love held by few, dedicated entirely to their games. Because at the center of it all, people speedrun because the games are fuckin sick.
Jesus loves you
th-cam.com/video/IQEGzucsN40/w-d-xo.html
Finally it's here ,
Excellent video, definitely approve of the timeline/ "where are they now" segments. Merch looks nice too! But I feel like the one thing that would sell the best would be a Summoning Salt shaker.
Omg YES
oh my god i legit need this now
I will try and 3D model some. If you know someone with a printer I will printed them out
For anyone curious watching this years later, sub-22 has been now achieved by 8 players. As of writing this, the record holder is a new player, Cads, with 21:49:100. BillyJoe66, Pidgey, and Skippy are all part of that sub-22 group as well.
I really enjoyed the influence Jon Bois has had on Summoning Salt, specifically this video. The gradually building graphic, slow zooms, and sudden terror of the motion controls ruining a run just ooze with that classic Jon Bois style.
It would be really cool to see the two do a collaboration some day. Perhaps on some world record history in baseball or something similar.
You’re actually so right. Foolish baseball has a fun video about really fast baseball games that a pitcher has pitched. There’s definitely space for it
th-cam.com/video/6TJpMjZ18pw/w-d-xo.html
Finally it’s here ,
And 46:09 “pidgey pulled a Dave Stieb” lmao
@@ClayMurray8 Foolish Baseball GOAT
I had to pause the video I laughed so hard
I remember Christmas of 2009, waking up early and opening the present that I knew was this game, and playing it until midday on a squeaky wooden chair right in front of the TV while my other presents waited.
These videos always give me chills, but because I know this game so well the chills are chillier.
Got this game for my birthday when I was younger 😂😂
I absolutely adore that he explains literally every single speed running trick used by the world record holders and then 45 MINUTES in he mentions the motion controls. Made me laugh out pretty hard. Excellent video!
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
wann machste selber n speedrun? :p
Among us
Candian?
It was def smant
a 10 sec improvement seems insane ! were new strats discovered?
Sharpruns just did a new WR yesterday at 21 : 56 400ms!
someone beat him already
This is definitely one of the best stories with all types of emotional roller coasters. Thank you for bringing this to us Summoning XD
Average summoning salt w
Summoning Salt is one of the biggest W in history
@@melontoad what does that mean
his name is Summoning Salt, not Summoning XD
@@secretjazz93 i hope you are joking lmao
when u were talking about how unbeatable Pidgey's last run was, the sudden realization hit me... i hadnt heard *The Song* yet... and then i see that theres more time on the video- *instant chills* -i already know this is about to get rlly impressive
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
It's amazing that Pidgey also currently holds the world record for both cannon-less and 100% completion as well. His runs are incredible to view.
Shout out Billyjoe66
When Pidgey put down the controller and Mario flew up causing him to lose the record is the definition of don't celebrate too early.
I really love the inclusion of a 'where are they now' type moment at the end of the videos, that and the graph are such major improvements to videos I alreadythought were near perfect. Keep up the amazing work Salt!
just like the speedruns themselves
th-cam.com/video/bev-dLoM4lc/w-d-xo.html finally it's here..
I was subscribed to FadeVanity’s TH-cam channel back in 2019, and I’m pretty sure the reason he quit speedrunning was because of mental issues, which really sucks. But also, besides regular speed runs, he actually also did ONE-HANDED versions which at the time and still to this day I think were really impressive. I hope he’s doing well now, and all the best.
Same here
He was one of my favorite TH-cam channels and it's sad he is gone but I hope he's doing well
i wondered about that, because it sounds like a case of mental health problems, since he wiped them too.
i really hope he's all right out there.
lol playing nsmbw one handed sucks (i love doing it but it's bad)
Thank you
I can't put into words how much this video means to me.
Thank you, Salt :')
You're an absolute legend dude!
legend
champion
Wow, a legend here.
hey, its u !, im your new fan lol
Raiker, Auchgard and Fade are the holy trinity of NSMB Wii. Fade might not be speedrunning Mario Wii anymore, but he certainly left a HUGE impact on the NSMBW Speedrun timeline by pulling off Double Bombless in a run and getting that 24:45.
The addition of the graph is really neat. I’d like to see more like that in the future!
The color coding is also a really neat upgrade as well
good idea, bad execution. Maybe add the times/runner to each point? Had no references. And maybe don't zoom in on it tell its a blurry mess?
@@JoJo-ke5yz I'd tend to disagree, since the runners are colour-coded. If it wasn't zoomed in, we would also see the far past, which is not what the focus is.