AGREED. i was fully in support of trans activism as of about 2 weeks ago, before i realized what was actually happening with the trans community. i wasn't up to date...i don't follow random SJW twitter battles even though i consider myself a liberal. there is so much misogyny in many of the ideas as well.
Thank you! I have been wondering the same thing. And they are in denial of any science that refutes their ideology. And if you don’t agree with them, you are automatically treated as a bigot. I was in a 24 hour discussion about the whole Potato Head thing with one “ally”, and then the “ally” saw that I had shared another post about trans women criminals, said it was “transphobic as f*ck”, unfriended me and I am now being branded as a terf...all because I don’t agree & have concerns for the safety of women & kids. It’s insane!
Reality is transphobic, according to their religion/ideology. No one outside their cult matters, not even the most vulnerable people,- children, women who have been victims of male violence, etc. In their deceived minds, people who express concerns about these others are evil, which just makes them look crazy to all the sane people outside the cult. The whole movement is narcissism writ large. Every fact, statement, person, or institution they encounter is seen through that paranoid lens. To quote M. Scott Peck, "For the narcissist, there ARE no others." The bad thing is that cults with political power can do a lot of damage before society realizes that they are dangerous and course corrects.
I'm not even 10 seconds in, I am gonna watch, just wanted to say that I've been aware of and pointing out the glaring similarities between these two subsets for a long time, so thank you for this.
Back in the old days we found our 'identity' by being a Mod or Rocker. We didn't ask the rest of society to accept our identity. In fact we didn't want accepted into society we were the Mods... or the Rockers
@@TheFiddle101 Mods like Bowie and Bolan directly influenced gender theory via boomer academics. I have a video on my channel about this, comments welcome.
There is also a parallel with Scientologists and transactivists striving to win over famous, high status, and wealthy members of society to sympathize with their agenda in order to magnify and finance their operations
@@annarboriter One of my favorite actors, and one who has brilliantly played lesbians, recently posted a pic in a "Stand By Your Trans" t-shirt and all I could think was, fucking hell. And then Sophia Bush, who has a massive following, finally left her husband for a woman, and declared she was "queer". I just wanted to cry. They have huge hearts and think they're doing the right thing, but it just makes me realize what we're up against and it's depressing.
“...there’s this thing called rehab. Maybe you might want to look into it.” 🤣😂
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‘Politics and the English language’ is a great little pamphlet by Orwell. Would recommend to anyone who enjoyed this video. It’s quick and easy to read
ooooh yes you get it! you totally get it, thank you for breaking this down ...its everything i have noticed as well, to a T!! especially watching cult documentaries, holy hell the parallels!!
Hi Arty! Found your channel by way of The Mess We're In (which is also fantastic). I'm barely 10 minutes into this video and it's so good already. I had previously thought about the connection between Scientologists and trans and the whole gender/thetans comparison. But you've broken it down so many more levels! I don't know if you'll get to this later in the video but I have always thought of Dr John Money as the L Ron Hubbard of gender identity. Just this weird guy who in retrospect and from the outside was obviously not to be trusted.
Thank you Arty ❤ I'm relatively new to this insanity and am learning so much from your videos. Please keep them coming, I'm in awe of your knowledge. ✊ 💪
As much as I vibe with the overall message here, you definitely said that psychologists and sociologists are using 'hard, cold science' to disagree with these views, which is patently absurd. Not only are the fields of psychology and sociology soft sciences to begin with, but the methodologies typically employed by professionals within these fields are almost never what you would think of as comprehensive or purely mechanistic when it comes to illustrating their hypotheses. None of this should be taken to mean that I disagree with their findings, but calling it 'hard, cold science' is fucking wild.
It is hard, cold science to deny the existence of a gendered soul, as Arty said, because it's a non-falsifiable hypothesis. We can't devise an experiment to establish conclusively that there isn't a soul or a soul has no gender, because these concepts exist independently from the physical, measurable universe. While you are right about the softness of a lot of psychological and sociological research, as evidenced by the replication crisis, this is not a problem for these subjects alone. Even physics, supposedly the hardest of sciences, has been rather speculative lately.
I had no idea that they had mass social media block tools! Now I understand why so many social commentary channels (GC people, health channels, etc.) always talk about how activist influencers always have them blocked even though they've never even interacted with them.
Rather not use his full name but a British man named David C., cross-dresser, trans activist and adult-baby diaper enthusiast, and his young (male-bodied) trans daughter, who was briefly a rising star in UK left-wing politics (trans tokenism and all that) until it was revealed they was living and working with their father in what was essentially a sex-fetish-torture shack. (Although to be fair I'm googling and there's some confusion around which particular block list was developed by them. So, you know, big asterisk on that. But I remember lefty people defending the decision to use such a block list even if it were developed by a sadistic child predator.)
@@ArtyMorty Oh fuck! I used to repress the fuck out of all my concerns, throughly examining myself to check my anti-trans bias. Until I couldn't anymore. I can't anymore. I am now speaking up and my friends actually agree with a lot of what I say, so I can see how many of us actually see the cultish behavior, we've just been shamed into silence. No more. It is not the right side of history to support the "right" of a fifteen year old kid to have a double masectomy. Fuck that. That could have been me. That would have been me. That's my picture right there. GNC lezzy, at least when it comes to clothes and hair, I'm not really butch when it comes to other stuff. I actually wouldn't claim to be "butch" if it weren't because it is now a dying culture and I feel for my butch sisters. I also feel for awesome GNC gay guys who get so much flack from all sides. You are amazing the way you are, guys. You don't need to be non-binary, it is more than fine to be an effeminate man. So thank you for speaking up, Artie. Take care. :)
Sharing you on twitter. Pleased you mentioned Kathleen Stock. She has been there since the beginning for me.. if you are on twitter let me know. I’m @STILLTish, so pleased to have found your work. ✊️
@@tish3092 I'm not sure what Mewe is but it sounds lovely. I'm a fan of Miranda Yardley! And I have plenty of free time right now thanks to coronavirus. :)
Arty Morty mewe.com/myworld. I’m easy to find. I admin MYs group and I am sure you would find it interesting, we are various different brands of feminists ,transsexuals & gay males. We don’t always agree but we share information sources. Also many of us have met in real life.
Arty Morty I will find you. Benjamin Boyce is asking if I can get contact info for you. . I told him I think he should interview you. You would be fabulous. I don’t think he’s interviewed any gay males who are speaking up for gay rights and pointing out the incompatibilities. (I could be wrong).
It's interesting how trans people's hatred of psychiatry is 'justified' by framing it as conversion therapy. They see people exploring this body dysmorphia and trying to find a way to treat it, having the patient work on themselves and accept their body instead of trying to change it - as suppressing their true trans identity. Like an existential attack on the self, they see this as the same thing as people trying to change a person's sexual orientation to fit a norm. It's interesting to see how the awful practice of conversation therapy has been flipped around to support this pseudoscientific ideology. Strange, since they are trying to convert people into their own unsubstantiated ideas...
Very much liked how you address gender non-conforming kids. Please make that video you speak of that addresses trans-identifying kids, particularly girls, ROGD, and how different the reasons girls identify as trans compared to the reasons boys do.
Thank you Arty that was really interesting. I knew of Scientology but I didn’t know much about it and you’ve explained it really well. It’s as if gender ideology is using the exact same template 💁🏼♂️
Check out a show called The Aftermath. It's about people who have left Scientology and the hell that rains down on them. It's hosted by Leah Remini and Mike Rinder, who was a high up in the organization. The parallels will be eye opening. The more of us that see this the better we can expose gender ideology for the abusive cult it is.
Thank you very much for this very informative video. The parallels are so creepy & sinister and finally so obvious as you put them out. It's so sad to see as a gay men - who could have been sucked into it in the 90s during his coming-out and being gender role non-conforming, yung, naive, ashamed - how this cult like gender ideology destroys so much of the achievemnets the LGB and women's movements have fought for for decades :( Take care. Greetings from Germany
I'm hoping my Trans Widows Testimonies at Ute Heggen channel will also reveal the cult characteristics these "affirming therapists" reveal to us, the ex-wives of men who ideate female personae.
Is the definition of a man through the still "adult human male"? Not through the transactivist/gender ideologue lens. An ideologically possessed acquaintance of mine who styles himself as a counsellor/therapist working in the field of gender/sexuality tells me I'm a transphobe because the idea of sex with a trans man is unappealing. Don't you know trans-men are men despite having vaginas or non-functional penises? Even Owen Jones & Mayor Sadiq Khan say so!! (The former is an infamous regressive leftist 'journalist' and the latter is Mayor of London for non-UK people).
Really interesting! You might be interested in the series Charlie Rae is doing about the similarities between cults and transgender ideology. Here's the link to the first part: th-cam.com/video/l4HD0QvJIlc/w-d-xo.html
His name is dave chanellor. His son, masquerading as a woman was briefly in politics in the uk being heralded as a lefty woke saviour until daddy got banged up for torturing an 11 yr old
They’re similar because they come from the same place - as well as the Cathars in the Middle Ages, and the Magna Mater cult in ancient Rome - the place is “not here.”
I want to marry you. Not only are you gorgeous, you're intelligent, witty and just perfect lol. I could watch you all day. Ps, I'm a biologically born male... just in case you're interested 😂
Just people like this trying to intellectualize and justify dehumanizing attitudes towards a marginalized group they don't want to accept as human or understand. With this much bias who would actually "choose" to be so vehemently despised?
It's more like anti-trans activists versus scientists. Transgender phenomen has biological basis, and it's a proven fact. Try to read Robert Sapolsky's works or to listen to his lectures. Also your body language is just inappropriate.
AGREED. i was fully in support of trans activism as of about 2 weeks ago, before i realized what was actually happening with the trans community. i wasn't up to date...i don't follow random SJW twitter battles even though i consider myself a liberal. there is so much misogyny in many of the ideas as well.
Many of us were fooled by it for a long time until we realised what's really going on. Horrifying, isn't it?
We were all there at one point before we questioned absolutely anything and became instant terfs by their say so!
I know three Trans-Activists who are deeply committed Scientologists • It’s a remarkable collision of ideologies •
Thank you! I have been wondering the same thing. And they are in denial of any science that refutes their ideology. And if you don’t agree with them, you are automatically treated as a bigot. I was in a 24 hour discussion about the whole Potato Head thing with one “ally”, and then the “ally” saw that I had shared another post about trans women criminals, said it was “transphobic as f*ck”, unfriended me and I am now being branded as a terf...all because I don’t agree & have concerns for the safety of women & kids. It’s insane!
Reality is transphobic, according to their religion/ideology. No one outside their cult matters, not even the most vulnerable people,- children, women who have been victims of male violence, etc. In their deceived minds, people who express concerns about these others are evil, which just makes them look crazy to all the sane people outside the cult. The whole movement is narcissism writ large. Every fact, statement, person, or institution they encounter is seen through that paranoid lens. To quote M. Scott Peck, "For the narcissist, there ARE no others." The bad thing is that cults with political power can do a lot of damage before society realizes that they are dangerous and course corrects.
I'm not even 10 seconds in, I am gonna watch, just wanted to say that I've been aware of and pointing out the glaring similarities between these two subsets for a long time, so thank you for this.
Thank you for being a voice of reason in a world that is getting more and more insane.
Back in the old days we found our 'identity' by being a Mod or Rocker. We didn't ask the rest of society to accept our identity. In fact we didn't want accepted into society we were the Mods... or the Rockers
And you just combed your hair differently once you grew up. That was pretty easy, though you could still love the music.
@@TheFiddle101 Mods like Bowie and Bolan directly influenced gender theory via boomer academics. I have a video on my channel about this, comments welcome.
Same with the punks, that too seems to be completely inverted now.
Arty Morty RULES! Keep 'em coming' Arty. We need your content so badly.
Fantastic presentation! Once people are invested in these cults, it becomes hard for them to admit that they may not be on the right path.
There is also a parallel with Scientologists and transactivists striving to win over famous, high status, and wealthy members of society to sympathize with their agenda in order to magnify and finance their operations
Very good point.
@@elizabethwhite1068 I appreciate the positive feedback
@@annarboriter One of my favorite actors, and one who has brilliantly played lesbians, recently posted a pic in a "Stand By Your Trans" t-shirt and all I could think was, fucking hell. And then Sophia Bush, who has a massive following, finally left her husband for a woman, and declared she was "queer". I just wanted to cry. They have huge hearts and think they're doing the right thing, but it just makes me realize what we're up against and it's depressing.
@@elizabethwhite1068 It's hard to avoid a social contagion when all the kids are doing it
@@annarboriter Hm, yeah, that's a really good way of looking at it.
omg thank you so much for this video, speaking out, and caring about lgb people and women
I've been trying to voice the similarities between scientology and tras for ages. Thanks for this x
“...there’s this thing called rehab. Maybe you might want to look into it.” 🤣😂
‘Politics and the English language’ is a great little pamphlet by Orwell. Would recommend to anyone who enjoyed this video. It’s quick and easy to read
ooooh yes you get it! you totally get it, thank you for breaking this down ...its everything i have noticed as well, to a T!! especially watching cult documentaries, holy hell the parallels!!
Hi Arty! Found your channel by way of The Mess We're In (which is also fantastic). I'm barely 10 minutes into this video and it's so good already. I had previously thought about the connection between Scientologists and trans and the whole gender/thetans comparison. But you've broken it down so many more levels! I don't know if you'll get to this later in the video but I have always thought of Dr John Money as the L Ron Hubbard of gender identity. Just this weird guy who in retrospect and from the outside was obviously not to be trusted.
Thank you Arty ❤ I'm relatively new to this insanity and am learning so much from your videos. Please keep them coming, I'm in awe of your knowledge. ✊ 💪
both groups also took psychology and twisted it to suit their own purpose
Keep doing what you're doing Arty, peace & love 💕
As much as I vibe with the overall message here, you definitely said that psychologists and sociologists are using 'hard, cold science' to disagree with these views, which is patently absurd. Not only are the fields of psychology and sociology soft sciences to begin with, but the methodologies typically employed by professionals within these fields are almost never what you would think of as comprehensive or purely mechanistic when it comes to illustrating their hypotheses.
None of this should be taken to mean that I disagree with their findings, but calling it 'hard, cold science' is fucking wild.
It is hard, cold science to deny the existence of a gendered soul, as Arty said, because it's a non-falsifiable hypothesis. We can't devise an experiment to establish conclusively that there isn't a soul or a soul has no gender, because these concepts exist independently from the physical, measurable universe.
While you are right about the softness of a lot of psychological and sociological research, as evidenced by the replication crisis, this is not a problem for these subjects alone. Even physics, supposedly the hardest of sciences, has been rather speculative lately.
I had no idea that they had mass social media block tools! Now I understand why so many social commentary channels (GC people, health channels, etc.) always talk about how activist influencers always have them blocked even though they've never even interacted with them.
Thank you. You put it so eloquently.
Well done. Thank you for your clear (!) thinking and pinpointing of the gender-identity phenomenon.
Ride on my friend.
Excellent arguments! I'm saving a link to this video in case I have the chance to change someone's mind in the future.
Who was the trans-activist who developed that app and then kidnapped the girl? This is all brilliant, by the way. You are dead on!
Rather not use his full name but a British man named David C., cross-dresser, trans activist and adult-baby diaper enthusiast, and his young (male-bodied) trans daughter, who was briefly a rising star in UK left-wing politics (trans tokenism and all that) until it was revealed they was living and working with their father in what was essentially a sex-fetish-torture shack. (Although to be fair I'm googling and there's some confusion around which particular block list was developed by them. So, you know, big asterisk on that. But I remember lefty people defending the decision to use such a block list even if it were developed by a sadistic child predator.)
@@ArtyMorty Oh fuck! I used to repress the fuck out of all my concerns, throughly examining myself to check my anti-trans bias. Until I couldn't anymore. I can't anymore. I am now speaking up and my friends actually agree with a lot of what I say, so I can see how many of us actually see the cultish behavior, we've just been shamed into silence. No more. It is not the right side of history to support the "right" of a fifteen year old kid to have a double masectomy. Fuck that. That could have been me. That would have been me. That's my picture right there. GNC lezzy, at least when it comes to clothes and hair, I'm not really butch when it comes to other stuff. I actually wouldn't claim to be "butch" if it weren't because it is now a dying culture and I feel for my butch sisters. I also feel for awesome GNC gay guys who get so much flack from all sides. You are amazing the way you are, guys. You don't need to be non-binary, it is more than fine to be an effeminate man. So thank you for speaking up, Artie. Take care. :)
@@ArtyMorty 14:32 Aimee boasted of adding people to TERF Blocker, but I guess there's no WiFi in prison.
thank you this is brilliant
Sharing you on twitter. Pleased you mentioned Kathleen Stock. She has been there since the beginning for me.. if you are on twitter let me know. I’m @STILLTish, so pleased to have found your work. ✊️
Thank you so much for sharing! I don't have access to twitter at the moment (you can probably guess why) so I appreciate the share very much.
@@tish3092 I'm not sure what Mewe is but it sounds lovely. I'm a fan of Miranda Yardley! And I have plenty of free time right now thanks to coronavirus. :)
Arty Morty mewe.com/myworld.
I’m easy to find. I admin MYs group and I am sure you would find it interesting, we are various different brands of feminists ,transsexuals & gay males. We don’t always agree but we share information sources. Also many of us have met in real life.
@@tish3092 Fabulous! I just signed up!!
Arty Morty I will find you. Benjamin Boyce is asking if I can get contact info for you. . I told him I think he should interview you. You would be fabulous. I don’t think he’s interviewed any gay males who are speaking up for gay rights and pointing out the incompatibilities. (I could be wrong).
It's interesting how trans people's hatred of psychiatry is 'justified' by framing it as conversion therapy.
They see people exploring this body dysmorphia and trying to find a way to treat it, having the patient work on themselves and accept their body instead of trying to change it - as suppressing their true trans identity. Like an existential attack on the self, they see this as the same thing as people trying to change a person's sexual orientation to fit a norm.
It's interesting to see how the awful practice of conversation therapy has been flipped around to support this pseudoscientific ideology. Strange, since they are trying to convert people into their own unsubstantiated ideas...
Awesome analysis. Thank you.
Sam Smith would be the equivalent of Tom Cruise in this religion...
Very much liked how you address gender non-conforming kids. Please make that video you speak of that addresses trans-identifying kids, particularly girls, ROGD, and how different the reasons girls identify as trans compared to the reasons boys do.
This is an excellent video
Thank you Arty that was really interesting.
I knew of Scientology but I didn’t know much about it and you’ve explained it really well.
It’s as if gender ideology is using the exact same template 💁🏼♂️
Check out a show called The Aftermath. It's about people who have left Scientology and the hell that rains down on them. It's hosted by Leah Remini and Mike Rinder, who was a high up in the organization. The parallels will be eye opening. The more of us that see this the better we can expose gender ideology for the abusive cult it is.
@@elizabethwhite1068 Thank you I’ll look for it now!
Thank you very much for this very informative video. The parallels are so creepy & sinister and finally so obvious as you put them out. It's so sad to see as a gay men - who could have been sucked into it in the 90s during his coming-out and being gender role non-conforming, yung, naive, ashamed - how this cult like gender ideology destroys so much of the achievemnets the LGB and women's movements have fought for for decades :( Take care. Greetings from Germany
Facing reality without an authoritative structure that makes harsh reality make sense n feel better - who wants that?
Thanks Arty.
That was great! Enjoy your content👍
I'm hoping my Trans Widows Testimonies at Ute Heggen channel will also reveal the cult characteristics these "affirming therapists" reveal to us, the ex-wives of men who ideate female personae.
This is SO GOOD!!!
25:34 😂 I love the way you delivered that little fyi
Excellent
Has anyone got a link to any sources re: the TERF blocker guy?
Look up David Challenor
Really great. You should teach
A clever and obvious parallel.
brilliant
You and Benjamin Boyce need to talk
th-cam.com/video/YSakGaTN_rw/w-d-xo.html
Professor Morty Arty?
Elementary! Or should I say, Mental Ellary!
Omg why didn’t I get it. Benjamin Boyce said it was your name, “Or so he would have us believe,” and I STILL didn’t get it.
Omg why didn’t I get it? Benjamin Boyce said it was your name, “Or so he would have us believe,” and I STILL didn’t get it.
Truth.
Excellent, a much needed explanation of the clear similarities. I've been calling it Gendertology, but doubt it will catch on lol.
Sounds like Manichaeism.
I also recommend reading William James’ Varieties of Religious Experience
Is the definition of a man through the still "adult human male"? Not through the transactivist/gender ideologue lens. An ideologically possessed acquaintance of mine who styles himself as a counsellor/therapist working in the field of gender/sexuality tells me I'm a transphobe because the idea of sex with a trans man is unappealing. Don't you know trans-men are men despite having vaginas or non-functional penises? Even Owen Jones & Mayor Sadiq Khan say so!! (The former is an infamous regressive leftist 'journalist' and the latter is Mayor of London for non-UK people).
Really interesting! You might be interested in the series Charlie Rae is doing about the similarities between cults and transgender ideology. Here's the link to the first part: th-cam.com/video/l4HD0QvJIlc/w-d-xo.html
shared on reddit to a gender critical sub. sorry if you get trolled.
oh? hahaha i found it on my own.
edit: and arty was featured on benjamin Boyce's channel, so likely to get a lot of views from that.
fseesauras why would gc women troll this guy?
@@Sebastian-pl3xm - The trolls that hate GC women would troll. It is in their DNA
Deanna St. Croix oh okay I didn’t read that right. Makes sense now, thanks
Deanna St. Croix whoa whoa whoa, don’t bring up dna, that’s transphobic
Arty Morty, who are you referring as the TERF blocker creator?
Yeah, does anyone know?
His name is dave chanellor. His son, masquerading as a woman was briefly in politics in the uk being heralded as a lefty woke saviour until daddy got banged up for torturing an 11 yr old
@@rubbleofempires David Challenor, although Aimee Challenor implied they were maintaining TERF Blocker also.
They’re similar because they come from the same place - as well as the Cathars in the Middle Ages, and the Magna Mater cult in ancient Rome - the place is “not here.”
Lol the subs translated thetans as satans
I want to marry you. Not only are you gorgeous, you're intelligent, witty and just perfect lol. I could watch you all day. Ps, I'm a biologically born male... just in case you're interested 😂
So which is worse? Nazis or Scientologists? What else can one make such comparisons to? What kind of person cares?
Just people like this trying to intellectualize and justify dehumanizing attitudes towards a marginalized group they don't want to accept as human or understand. With this much bias who would actually "choose" to be so vehemently despised?
nice
what about the gay cults?
You are so handsome;)
watching your video really makes me doubt the potential of human societies :/
@Echoplex Media lmfao yes bud transphobes like this dweeb are so fucking smooth up there inside their skull and stuff
Homosexual people are same sex attracted only. I have yet to meet a transgender person that accepts this fact.
@yollam bro don't make me be ableist against you just keep your shit locked down please
@yollam rude.
@yollam know what?
A good laugh, another kooky conspiracy from tin foil hat Morty.
It's more like anti-trans activists versus scientists. Transgender phenomen has biological basis, and it's a proven fact. Try to read Robert Sapolsky's works or to listen to his lectures. Also your body language is just inappropriate.
Xddd
Also very similar to Mormons/FLDS.