Lead Rope Solo with Silent Partner - Tom Thumb 5.8

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  • This is a lead of Tom Thumb, a traditional climb in the South Saint Vrain Canyon outside of Lyons, CO with a rating of 5.8 done rope solo style with a silent partner. This was an after-work climb, done in one take from various angles and nothing cut out.
    This crag is alongside the road and creek, plus it was a windy afternoon, so please pardon the noise.
    00:00 - intro and setup
    02:57 - climbing
    06:26 - top out
    10:10 - toproping to clean cameras

ความคิดเห็น • 34

  • @TheDyscontinuum
    @TheDyscontinuum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That rappel hurt me a lil, but I suppose "safety nerd" is an apt term. Nice climb!

  • @bazcardinal1176
    @bazcardinal1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very smooth. I really like the commentary.

  • @iloveadventures6710
    @iloveadventures6710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't worry what others think... unless they are being courteous and reiterating a safety tip brother! You obviously know what you are doing. Subscribed.

  • @Phoenixhunter157
    @Phoenixhunter157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like such a fun climbing route.

  • @fredpastuh7518
    @fredpastuh7518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great thank you!

  • @rmd4698
    @rmd4698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    well made climbing video, liked commented and subscribed

  • @TennisEuphoria
    @TennisEuphoria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No back up knot?

  • @IanLConnors
    @IanLConnors 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this MUST be a play on tom thum, the beatboxer who made a ted talk. haven't yet watched the video but appreciate the pun.

  • @calebmeador3039
    @calebmeador3039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vudeo

  • @ananda_miaoyin
    @ananda_miaoyin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ooohh.
    The Dark Art of rope solo.
    Nice climb. We have a guy at Buck's Bar that uses a silent partner. They look pretty reliable. I like TR solo on shunt but I will want to get a few more (thousand) trad miles on before even trying this.

    • @ananda_miaoyin
      @ananda_miaoyin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Malcolm Hansell I back the shunt up with a ropeman - but ONLY on TR solo. I would never use that setup on a self belay. The shunt is clearly listed as a fall prevention device, not a fall arrestor. I have seen some failure videos of the shunt, even though Dave McLeod uses it in his self belay, I would not.

  • @branko36
    @branko36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, don't think you mentioned it, but can I ask the reasoning behind clipping the silent partner through the tie-in-loops versus the belay loop? Genuinely curious as it seemed you had the tie-in-loops held close with a sling on a larkshead/cowhitch?

    • @stilldavid
      @stilldavid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good question! A few reasons to use the tie in loops, starting with: that's what the manual says to do :) I also like it because it holds it closer to my body, so in the event of a fall it's still waist level and not closer up to my chest. Tying in via the belay loop would also rotate it 90 degrees, and I appreciate having the rope on the "left" and "right" rather than front/back, if that makes sense.
      The girth hitch/larkshead/whatever you see is not for the integrity of the harness at all - that is my PAS that I use to tie in to the anchor when I know I will need to get myself off belay at the anchor.

  • @bman6065
    @bman6065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So does it really matter as much how much pieces are extended? Isn't more or less always the same friction minus the weight of the slack end below?

    • @stilldavid
      @stilldavid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure exactly what you're asking, but I didn't extend every piece because it's a short climb and pretty near a straight line up. For routes that wander I definitely keep draws and runners on hand! For the anchor it doesn't matter how extended the pieces are, so long as it's set for an upward pull and there's a piece at the top to keep slack out of the system.

  • @ASNIV_
    @ASNIV_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! You use a cache loop on longer pitches? Curious about feeding since I just picked up a SP to replace an upside down gri gri

    • @stilldavid
      @stilldavid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely, and that has the benefit of built-in backup knots! Sometimes I use a bag with the rope coiled in it on my person as well. Both have the benefits of carrying less weight the higher up you go.

  • @andrewp.9541
    @andrewp.9541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need some sturdy shoes for that approach

    • @ananda_miaoyin
      @ananda_miaoyin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And lots of water. That trail looks like a real bear.

  • @soaringibex
    @soaringibex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's your backup for the Silent Partner?

    • @stilldavid
      @stilldavid  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On longer routes (especially multipitch!) I tie figure 8 backup knots every 20-30' and clip them to my harness with individual mini locking D carabiners. This particular climb I didn't use that system, which adds risk no doubt. Andy Kirkpatrick is working on a new edition of Me, Myself, and I which I'd highly recommend if you're interested in rope solo technique, especially on bigger walls.

    • @soaringibex
      @soaringibex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stilldavid Cool. I read the first edition. Can't wait to see the new one. I believe slip knots are another option so you can undo them with one hand.

  • @Papershields001
    @Papershields001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh man, I want a silent partner SO bad. How did you get yours?? I’ve been rope soloing on a grigri for about a year now and I’d totally pay a thousand bucks for one.

    • @stilldavid
      @stilldavid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just lucky, I guess! I bought it almost 10 years ago before they got super popular. I bought it from its first owner for $150.

    • @ananda_miaoyin
      @ananda_miaoyin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's good cause you totally will pay about 1000 bucks for one!

    • @sendfestderick7847
      @sendfestderick7847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just paid $1700 for mine! Let me know if you see one for $1000...

    • @user-pm8dc4sr7d
      @user-pm8dc4sr7d ปีที่แล้ว

      당신은 멋진 등반가입니다. 사용하신 장비 모델은 무엇입니까? 알고싶습니다.

    • @Lucasthomasperrier
      @Lucasthomasperrier 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just bought one for 1000 cad. My faith in fellow climbers has been reaffirmed after years of waiting 😂
      I’ll still stick to a grigri for freezing temps though

  • @timmilner1432
    @timmilner1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see how the Silent partner works but you should have extended your runners and backed up the rap! Others who might follow your example could fall.

    • @stilldavid
      @stilldavid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree 100% I should have backed up my rap, I mention this in the video :) As for extending runners, this line is pretty plumb up and down and the pieces placed were not at risk of walking. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @palminator73
    @palminator73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All good except the single bolt clip in at the anchor. At around 7:15 you are on only one of the anchor bolts. People have died when a single anchor point blows. Looks like you are having a blast otherwise.

    • @MrLyckegard
      @MrLyckegard ปีที่แล้ว

      Please tell me more

    • @palminator73
      @palminator73 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As he removes the silent partner before the rap, he is clipped into only one bolt. This is not redundant. There have been incidents where singe bolt anchors have failed resulting in catastrophe. Always clip into both anchor bolts if you can.

    • @LiamWilsonisbeastly
      @LiamWilsonisbeastly 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@palminator73 this happens like once a decade on really old bolts. given that he isn't weighting it, has a bomber stance, and he'd risk a factor >=1 fall on a static PAS anyway, this is super good enough imo