In case you guys weren’t aware, some gy6 (really any cdi equipped engine) are setup to use an ac cdi and some use dc cdi. The difference being obvious, the ac is for alternating current and the dc for direct current. What does that mean though, simply, the ac models generate their own electricity (ac voltage) to power the cdi whereas the dc requires 12 bolts dc power from the battery for the cdi. The ac equipped bikes will run even with a dead battery. How to tell the difference easily? If you turn the key on with the engine off, if the headlight comes on then you’ve got a dc cdi typically. This of course assumes the battery is charged so in cases of a dead battery then hook up jumper cables to a car first before the key on light test. Also a dc cdi is typically about 1.5 physically larger than an ac cdi because it has more circuits inside for the dc portion. Most 50cc are ac cdi. It’s a toss up on 150 gy6. Most kymco are dc except for the two stroke kymcos are ac. Most all two strokes are ac for that matter. Some rules of thumb regarding clutch and cvt. Roller weight controls when the variator (front pulley what you guys called clutch) “shifts” from low “gear” to high. Lighter rollers aren’t thrown out by centrifugal force as easily so the variator won’t shift as soon/in other words the engine will rev higher before it shifts. The opposite for heavier weight rollers. Top speed is a function of horsepower and final drive gearing (there’s a small gear set behind the rear pulley/centrifugal clutch ) unless you’ve got the cvt all out of wack/engine running poorly/extremely low on power. For optimum performance you will need to tune the roller weights and the clutch springs that hold the clutch shoes from engageing the bell. There’s also a “conta” torque spring under the clutch in between it and the rear pulley sheaves. A slightly stiffer contra spring usually helps it stay in low gear longer and keeps the belt from slipping too. The ideal setup (once all tuned right with rollers and those springs) would be clutch springs that let the engine rev up to peak torque (think stall converter in an automatic trans race car) before they engage the clutch, and light enough rollers in the variator to let it wind out (use all of it low gear) then shift into high and let it rev till top speed (gear ratio determined/rev limiter determined)! As far as Amazon stuff goes, the yellow contra and clutch springs are usually a step stiffer and quite noticeable improvement for $10-20. If you go brand name like Malossi or Polini then the colors may or may not be the same. There’s clutch springs available that will stall anywhere from 1500 for those yellows up to some full race 8000rpm springs. Cvt tuning is the first place you want to get right! Night and day difference. Those Tao Tao 50s in your other video will go 40 mph with yellow contra and clutch springs so long as the engine is running right which 90% of the time is just making sure the pilot jet is clear (there’s a tiny hole thru the center not just the four holes going sideways ) and the rest of the carb is spotless. Those engines are simple. Those racing cdi don’t truly do anything except they run full advance at all times (in other words they don’t have less timing advance at low rpm to make the engine easier to start like the stock ones have). That’s why it felt snappier off the line but once revving the are identical after the timing curve kicks to full advance. It’s been proven on the dyno and with timing light and ossilliscope. Actually with a big bore kit with high compression the stock starter won’t be able to start it cause it’ll have to much advance at idle/start rpm. Welcome to the addicting world cheap scooter mods! It fun asf isn’t it😂
This might be the most comprehensive and helpful comment I have seen! Thank you so much for this. We still have a lot to learn and you laid this info out perfectly. Thank you so much🤘 as for the addiction... I have 3 scooters in my garage now... lol
I've been messing around with mopeds for over ten years now and it's a blast watching you do stuff that I did way back when (and remember why....?). Keep up the great work!!!!
This is my first of your videos and I subbed so fast! I was a scooter mechanic for 2.5 years and after a few years of driving cars I'm ready for like my 10th scooter. Gonna get a 2021 Peace Sports 808-7G from the dealer I worked for. First upgrades: Serviceable carb with a 114 main jet. Performance clutch, cdi, air filter and exhaust. Ankle bitter. Under glow.
I just got an ‘87 Honda Elite 150 I stripped down to the frame, opened the air box up a little and chopped the giant OEM muffler off and rewelded the actual pipe, to save on buying a muffler lol. Rolling wrench has some good products for sale to help dial in the carbs after mods, so you don’t have to buy a whole bunch of jets you’ll never use. I’m gonna add a tube across the front forks to tie them together and weld two pipes from steering neck back to passenger peg frame to add stiffness and better corner handling. As these scooters around corners feels like a water weenie trying to hold a straight line/curve
Just installed a 47mm 80cc BBK on my Tao Tao, things got well over 10k miles on it but runs like a champ. went from 30 MPH when i first got it to 40 after some basic derestriction and tuning, to 50 MPH after the BBK. Still got some fine tuning to do on the carb and CVT upgrades on the way.
Just bought a cheap 150cc scooter. $200 and it’s a 2020 with 1.7k miles. No spark but everything else looks good. Cleaned up the pickup and waiting on a new CDI box and plug wire, very excited to get this thing back on the road
People hate on Chinese scooters, but I've owned a dozen bikes, and nothing has been more fun than working on, tuning, learning from my cheap piece of junk(when I got it) "Chooter". They're tons of fun, and if you drop it, slide it, wreck it, whatever, everything's cheap af, and easy to fix with basic tools. people that, are just late to the party imo :)
That was awesome to do! So many people, including myself use TH-cam for their business, to find similar issues, and to see before they buy. Thanks for the video and that was a very nice thing to do for A9Five. I know he appreciated it.
Just rebuilt a tgb r50x not one of the best bike but just starting small , watching you guys on getting bike to go faster I put a sports cdi on it going to try 6 gram weights see how that goes , great show guys
I just bought a 2001 Honda reflex 250 which we call a Honda Forza here in Australia. I just bought an aftermarket performance exhaust that I had to order from japan and can't wait to do it up.
I have a dongfang DF50SXR with a 50cc gy6 and yall have helped so much with my fine tuning and everything I plan on watching more of yalls videos I just need to buy rollers and a ac cdi box to get it up to 60mph oh and by the way I'm Charles this is my mother's account since I broke my phone working on a vehicle story of my life and may God continue blessing you all my brothers
I've got the same moped, but in blue and modded a bit more, I took the head light off and some other dumb plastics, and it's been one of my favorite wheelie rigs I've ever owned
I'm looking at different scooters and I learned what got to be done to Chinese scooters and watching your channel helped me but now I have to what type thank you for the video
I love your videos. I have. 2017bTao Tao. I installed an 80cc big bore kit... Cylinder and piston with gaskets only. Unused my existing head,valves, and valve cover. I had 10g and 14g weights (alternated in varistor) my bike was slower on take off but my top speed was 56mph. I couldnt believe it. The kit cost me 26$ with shipping. But 2ith the bike riding faster I began to experience a wobble in the handle bars and the vibration of the 80cc was making bolts and nut loosen. Was weird but kept eye on them. My 200$ ride could go 50-55mph easy as hell for under 30$
I have a purple 08 Roketta with the same body plastics. 50cc with a BBK, CDI, 20mm carb, open exhaust, and 6.5 gram weights. I get 47 MPH all day. I'm building a new bike out if a free junker. 50cc with a BBK, CDI, A9 cam, 18mm carb, open exhaust, 8gram weights. Also 47 MPH, but quicker.
If you actually wanna wheelie properly it's about throttle control and you need to keep your hand on the rear brake. Give it gas to get it up and brake to get it down then balance it out to hold the wheelie. Scooters a pretty big in the Netherlands since everything's close by here and there's scooters with some real street cred. Nice to see you Americans getting into them.
Friends, Haha 16:47 My wife saw this and said, “Is he disabled?” Next question, “That is how he cleans his shop, with his pants?” Hahacha great video. I would like to see top speed comparison of the different weights. Thank you, Kenny
Definitely a little late seeing this video but I've got 3 mopeds 2 are 2 wheelers and 1 is a trike. I'm getting a high performance clutch for the trike so I'll have to see how that goes but Definitely nice seeing scooter content.
bought what i thought was a 50cc and it turned out to be a 125cc!! it has been totally overhauled inside and out and i would love to share what you guys inspired me to do and it to become ;)
I bought a clapped moped for 75 bucks, blew up the top end didn't get all the metal out and blew the bottom end, just replaced the moped and still don't even have 300 in to it lol things are great to beat on
Bros, y'all are hilarious, I have a 150cc gy6 and I have the performance rollers and I get the same type of response off the line. But I'm going to have to get that CDI box you guys I got so I can dial it up. Thanks!!!
Thanks we appreciate that a lot!🤘🤘 make sure to check out our other content too! Our scooter videos do great, but we have some great stuff with our other toys as well
Dr pulley 8.5 gram. I'll put a new belt on it and after I put a new belt on I ended up taking the doctor pulley rollers out and just using normal rollers. For some reason it gets me a better top speed
This week I’m officially buying my first 150 cc moped and I am definitely gonna buy CDI a fox and a really nice carburetor for it I encouraged myself to get a 150 mL moped I was writing to 50 but no I thought I’d go ahead and bump up and have some more manpower
I am in Michigan. I've been following these videos as I work on De-restricting my Wolf RX50. I have not found any genuinely low restriction muffler and headpipes. I ended up fabricating both an intake and a muffler system. I didn't see any point to upsizing and rejetting a larger carb until the restrictions were removed. I don't want a 55mph scooter. But one that is better off the line and has a bit more mid range torque. I'm trying to avoid doing a "big bore" kit and a cam. But, it's within my capabilities. But this scooter doesn't have a good suspension for 50mph and Michigan's shitty roads.
@@throttle_therapy with fuel prices going sky high, you guys could gain a huge number of subscribers by doing a focused, four part series on de restriction on a 49cc, 4 stroke scooter. The basic stuff required to get 49cc scoot improved just enough to make it a more balanced performer instead of the slightly oversized toy that it is when we pull it out of the box.
@@scottbrown7415 that is a really good idea! Thanks. Unfortunately it's getting pretty cold here in Minnesota.. makes it hard to ride. I bet we could figure something out though
That was awsome i have a 150 gy6 taotao lancer do u kno how to make it go faster by taking the little screw out of the top of the carburetor cap I heard someone else mentioned that just don't know how to do maybe you can help
One easy and simple way to get a whole lot more power and RPM's out of it is to do away with the whole spark plug wire and coil and CDI box get a coil on plug from like a four-cylinder car that has individual coil built on top of the plug and it just has three or four wires running into each run your power wire to your power switch and then your ground and third wire you run it to your signal wire from your stator it's parked just like it would tell your CDI to make the plugs spark in that will free up a lot of restriction and it actually sparks a whole lot stronger and some people say that you can't get timeing advance that way but timeing advance doesn't exist on these mopeds because it only sparks when the flywheel magnet passes the sensor so no matter what RPM you're going it still takes 360 degrees for that magnet to pass the sensor again have done this with almost every one of mine with coils off of a BMW
I'm just messing with you guys but I'm doing so much work on my own to make it go faster watching rolling wrench getting good ideas you guys are doing the same thing but I don't know what state you guys are in let's rendezvous this summer and I'm going to show you how fast my GY6 scooter is
Does it use the gas faster or the same? Thank u help me on changing the speed faster. My Tao Tao 150cc 2012 goes 60 no problem. So now I'm going to try this. Going to try this now on mine. loved the videos. Thank u Tina
Any recommendations for a Vitacci Clash 200 EFI? Hoping for the best, have heard some recommended modifications and found one in decent condition. Thank you guys for the vids!
@@throttle_therapy i will. i have a piaggio x8 and a benelli k2 100. been trying to figure out how to make them both go a bit quicker so hoping vids like these will help
@@throttle_therapy well, would you know how to make the Benelli quicker? It’s a 100cc 2 stroke no mods at all and id like around 60 out of it. I was thinking about an exhaust but don’t know if it’d do much
I got that same cdi I guess it works good couldnt tell the difference with just that but when I fully built or put on all the bolt ones I notice a bigger difference now I just put a bbk and new gears so I wanna see what's the difference
I have a 50cc TaoTao it wants to bog down at top speed. Put new carburetor on and removed pet cock put on shut off valve directly from tank to carb. Also removed air box put on the air pod that came with carburetor. Any suggestions? Could it be something in my tank restricting gas flow.
lighter rollers maybe diff exhaust if it is a two stroke but if it is a four stroke it doesn't matter if you got an exhaust on with a pot just a short pipe works fine
So this is my first video with you guys and I have to say I loving it cuz I couldn't find any videos when the weights was change and I got to see the change so thank you guys for that I just got a 2019 pcx150 and it's tune up time and I was wondering what rollers to put in it dr pulleys I hear are great want a lil more torque but way more top end
@@throttle_therapyget a bigger variator. That way you can put in really light weights without losing much top end if any. I got 9g sliders in mine at it does around 70 and I am at a very high elevation
The cdi link in the description, goes to the blue $9 AC cd Not the uellow $20 dc cdi, I'm thinking about trying the yellow dc cdi in my 2008 Zen 150T Rebel/Rowdy, yes mine is an early model , it has Rebel 150 on the side covers, instead of the current ( Rowdy ), same scoot different name, Its a heavy beast 290# large tubilar frame, makes for a good town & country Cruiser,, riding solo top speed is 56 -58 ,Its a copy of the Honda Big Rukus, maybe some day I'll get a big bore kit for it, About 2010 i installed s 70cc bore kit on a Honda 2 stroke Urban Express, and a expansion exhaust I purchased from Hawaii, these are very light NoPeds, the first time opened the throttle on this setup it popped a Wheelie and dragged the tip of the exhaust on the street and made s screaping mark, boy was i surprised
Do you know if the cdi box you used had the male or female hookups? Does it matter? I’m new to this but I order one already that wouldn’t hook up to my scooter
I have a Rockford Tora with no engine and have a lead on a Taotao 150cc GY6. Could I put a 420 sprocket on the output shaft, mount the engine forward and put a chain from the output shaft to the rear sprocket?$30 for the engine but I don't want to waste the time on a non productive project.
how are you all , i have been watching your video on your 150 cc gy6 scooter your scooter looks fun with the mods you have done , i am going to put a 150cc top end on my scooter , have you added a performance rear clutch on your scooter or only added the rollers , what rollers would you recommend for my gy6 150 cc thanks fro byron
I am having issues with the engagement of my clutch it works but grabs weird and hear a rattle a little bit. My exhaust cracked around the weld I want a performance setup. Thank have the x pro x-19 150cc succored 20201 model. Please lmk what I can and should do I would really appreciate it 🙏 I only have 1k miles on her!!! I am looking for more top end. Goes 52 like this one!!!
Make sure you are very familiar with the machines you are flipping. Start with 1 or two Mopeds/scooters and see how that goes. It should be pretty straightforward and simple. Good luck!👍👍
i got scooter look like ur 150cc red and black on a basic black one i can hit speeds of 50 it putter for first few sec befor start moving up to 50 and i belive almost 60 with basic black one mine only have a maby 1000 miles on it or still in the 900 just seem to have proplems with hair coming out the oil yes i said hair coming out the oil rubbery black stuff from spark plug and dead battery good thing only cost 140$ and little tlc and running great
The only torque increase Is gonna come from a bore kit. Everything else is just making it respond faster. A cdi is not gonna increase spark... only allow a better spark. Weights will make ur rpm change. Not add low end.
I seen a kid battery powered dirt bike somebody was throwing away of course the battery is bad and it was one of the better dirt bikes have front and back shocks and brakes took the batteries out of it put four 20-volt drill batteries in it note the little box for the throttle is only rated for 36 volts but it would peel tires with me on it I'm 186 lb
I have a custom made 150cc moped great bike but I want to go way faster I want to be able to hit 75 on it so that I can go on the highway to get to places Icant get to without a car any ideas on what I could do I already spent 2k on the bike any ideas
I just put my transmission together on my 50cc summer and I've got six and a half gram rollers mixed with eight and a half gram rollers and it's maxing out at about 45 on it straight away I want more torque what kind of spring should I put in the clutch I want the needle to bury 50 mph it's going about 40 42 mph I'm not going to say 45 because I let off the throttle when it was about 42
I bought a Big bore kit but I haven't put it on because I don't feel like I need to do that it's running damn near more than perfect actually it is because the book only calls for 25 miles an hour top speed brand new I've got it going 42 miles an hour and that's the bottom number that's not the top number it's f****** nice
It can probably be done! We haven't gotten a chance to play with a 250cc tho. If we can get our hands on one we will definitely make some videos with it. But unfortunately we don't know enough sorry we couldn't be more helpful
I'm curious. For some reason I can't fathom you guys call scooters 'mopeds' a name that has been used for years in Europe to describe (usually) 49cc bikes that have both a MOtor and PEDals either of which can propel the vehicle. Think about the millions of Mobylettes, Puchs, Velosolex, Peugeots, Zundapps, NSUs that are around (and to a lesser extent Hondas, Yamahas and Suzukis). So what do you call actual, well, mopeds?
In case you guys weren’t aware, some gy6 (really any cdi equipped engine) are setup to use an ac cdi and some use dc cdi. The difference being obvious, the ac is for alternating current and the dc for direct current. What does that mean though, simply, the ac models generate their own electricity (ac voltage) to power the cdi whereas the dc requires 12 bolts dc power from the battery for the cdi. The ac equipped bikes will run even with a dead battery.
How to tell the difference easily? If you turn the key on with the engine off, if the headlight comes on then you’ve got a dc cdi typically. This of course assumes the battery is charged so in cases of a dead battery then hook up jumper cables to a car first before the key on light test. Also a dc cdi is typically about 1.5 physically larger than an ac cdi because it has more circuits inside for the dc portion. Most 50cc are ac cdi. It’s a toss up on 150 gy6. Most kymco are dc except for the two stroke kymcos are ac. Most all two strokes are ac for that matter.
Some rules of thumb regarding clutch and cvt. Roller weight controls when the variator (front pulley what you guys called clutch) “shifts” from low “gear” to high. Lighter rollers aren’t thrown out by centrifugal force as easily so the variator won’t shift as soon/in other words the engine will rev higher before it shifts. The opposite for heavier weight rollers. Top speed is a function of horsepower and final drive gearing (there’s a small gear set behind the rear pulley/centrifugal clutch ) unless you’ve got the cvt all out of wack/engine running poorly/extremely low on power. For optimum performance you will need to tune the roller weights and the clutch springs that hold the clutch shoes from engageing the bell. There’s also a “conta” torque spring under the clutch in between it and the rear pulley sheaves. A slightly stiffer contra spring usually helps it stay in low gear longer and keeps the belt from slipping too. The ideal setup (once all tuned right with rollers and those springs) would be clutch springs that let the engine rev up to peak torque (think stall converter in an automatic trans race car) before they engage the clutch, and light enough rollers in the variator to let it wind out (use all of it low gear) then shift into high and let it rev till top speed (gear ratio determined/rev limiter determined)!
As far as Amazon stuff goes, the yellow contra and clutch springs are usually a step stiffer and quite noticeable improvement for $10-20.
If you go brand name like Malossi or Polini then the colors may or may not be the same. There’s clutch springs available that will stall anywhere from 1500 for those yellows up to some full race 8000rpm springs. Cvt tuning is the first place you want to get right! Night and day difference. Those Tao Tao 50s in your other video will go 40 mph with yellow contra and clutch springs so long as the engine is running right which 90% of the time is just making sure the pilot jet is clear (there’s a tiny hole thru the center not just the four holes going sideways ) and the rest of the carb is spotless. Those engines are simple. Those racing cdi don’t truly do anything except they run full advance at all times (in other words they don’t have less timing advance at low rpm to make the engine easier to start like the stock ones have). That’s why it felt snappier off the line but once revving the are identical after the timing curve kicks to full advance. It’s been proven on the dyno and with timing light and ossilliscope. Actually with a big bore kit with high compression the stock starter won’t be able to start it cause it’ll have to much advance at idle/start rpm.
Welcome to the addicting world cheap scooter mods! It fun asf isn’t it😂
This might be the most comprehensive and helpful comment I have seen! Thank you so much for this. We still have a lot to learn and you laid this info out perfectly. Thank you so much🤘 as for the addiction... I have 3 scooters in my garage now... lol
I've been messing around with mopeds for over ten years now and it's a blast watching you do stuff that I did way back when (and remember why....?). Keep up the great work!!!!
HEY I JUS GOT A 2022 50CC GY6 CHINNESSE SCOOTER N IM LOVING IT!! IM DOING MY OWN WORK ON IT CUZ OF U GUYS!!!! RIDE SAFE AND BLESS U ALL!!! MOPAD LIFE
Thanks! good to hear!
This is my first of your videos and I subbed so fast!
I was a scooter mechanic for 2.5 years and after a few years of driving cars I'm ready for like my 10th scooter.
Gonna get a 2021 Peace Sports 808-7G from the dealer I worked for.
First upgrades:
Serviceable carb with a 114 main jet.
Performance clutch, cdi, air filter and exhaust.
Ankle bitter.
Under glow.
Hey that's awesome to hear! Glad you enjoyed our vid. That sounds like it's going to be a fun machine!!
Happy to see a channel doing scooter stuff in 2021.
139qmb and 157qmj owner, these little motors are awesome.
Glad to hear you're enjoying them! We agree they are a blast
I just got an ‘87 Honda Elite 150 I stripped down to the frame, opened the air box up a little and chopped the giant OEM muffler off and rewelded the actual pipe, to save on buying a muffler lol. Rolling wrench has some good products for sale to help dial in the carbs after mods, so you don’t have to buy a whole bunch of jets you’ll never use. I’m gonna add a tube across the front forks to tie them together and weld two pipes from steering neck back to passenger peg frame to add stiffness and better corner handling. As these scooters around corners feels like a water weenie trying to hold a straight line/curve
Just installed a 47mm 80cc BBK on my Tao Tao, things got well over 10k miles on it but runs like a champ. went from 30 MPH when i first got it to 40 after some basic derestriction and tuning, to 50 MPH after the BBK. Still got some fine tuning to do on the carb and CVT upgrades on the way.
Change the final drive gears. Hoka sells the best
Just curious does anyone know what gram weights he did for this tune?
I went from 8.5 to 5.5 n taller gear went from 30 to 45 mph saving money for a bbk
@@paulsmithjr2305 Hey mate are you referring to the weight of the rollers
Just bought a cheap 150cc scooter. $200 and it’s a 2020 with 1.7k miles. No spark but everything else looks good. Cleaned up the pickup and waiting on a new CDI box and plug wire, very excited to get this thing back on the road
Heck yeah! You are going to have a blast rippin on that🤘🤘
People hate on Chinese scooters, but I've owned a dozen bikes, and nothing has been more fun than working on, tuning, learning from my cheap piece of junk(when I got it) "Chooter". They're tons of fun, and if you drop it, slide it, wreck it, whatever, everything's cheap af, and easy to fix with basic tools. people that, are just late to the party imo :)
we wish we would have bought them sooner!
Ahh man i looked forward towards installing that cdi too. Thanks for the shout-out, I'll dm you guys.
🤘🤘
A9Five is the GOAT
That was awesome to do! So many people, including myself use TH-cam for their business, to find similar issues, and to see before they buy. Thanks for the video and that was a very nice thing to do for A9Five. I know he appreciated it.
Just rebuilt a tgb r50x not one of the best bike but just starting small , watching you guys on getting bike to go faster I put a sports cdi on it going to try 6 gram weights see how that goes , great show guys
I just bought a 2001 Honda reflex 250 which we call a Honda Forza here in Australia. I just bought an aftermarket performance exhaust that I had to order from japan and can't wait to do it up.
That is going to be a fun unit!
I have a dongfang DF50SXR with a 50cc gy6 and yall have helped so much with my fine tuning and everything I plan on watching more of yalls videos I just need to buy rollers and a ac cdi box to get it up to 60mph oh and by the way I'm Charles this is my mother's account since I broke my phone working on a vehicle story of my life and may God continue blessing you all my brothers
Hey Charles. Glad to hear that our vids are helping! thank you for the kind words
I've got the same moped, but in blue and modded a bit more, I took the head light off and some other dumb plastics, and it's been one of my favorite wheelie rigs I've ever owned
Good wheelinging
I have a 150...cam ..slide carb pipe gearing. Big bore kit...cdi....62 mph flat ground.... Willets 😮 California....71 year old
Yahoo
🤘🤘 heck yeah
I'm looking at different scooters and I learned what got to be done to Chinese scooters and watching your channel helped me but now I have to what type thank you for the video
I love your videos. I have. 2017bTao Tao. I installed an 80cc big bore kit... Cylinder and piston with gaskets only. Unused my existing head,valves, and valve cover. I had 10g and 14g weights (alternated in varistor) my bike was slower on take off but my top speed was 56mph. I couldnt believe it. The kit cost me 26$ with shipping. But 2ith the bike riding faster I began to experience a wobble in the handle bars and the vibration of the 80cc was making bolts and nut loosen. Was weird but kept eye on them. My 200$ ride could go 50-55mph easy as hell for under 30$
That's awesome to hear!
I have a purple 08 Roketta with the same body plastics. 50cc with a BBK, CDI, 20mm carb, open exhaust, and 6.5 gram weights. I get 47 MPH all day. I'm building a new bike out if a free junker. 50cc with a BBK, CDI, A9 cam, 18mm carb, open exhaust, 8gram weights. Also 47 MPH, but quicker.
Sounds like a fun machine!
I bought myself a moped based on your videos. And I upgraded my moped based on your videos. And I love your content and moped art.🙌
If you actually wanna wheelie properly it's about throttle control and you need to keep your hand on the rear brake. Give it gas to get it up and brake to get it down then balance it out to hold the wheelie. Scooters a pretty big in the Netherlands since everything's close by here and there's scooters with some real street cred. Nice to see you Americans getting into them.
We have a lot to work on in the wheelie department lol. Thanks for the tip tho! We will keep practicing
Bro thank you so much, my 50 has been stuck at 28mph for ages and now I’ve just orders a cdi,exhaust and carb
Glad we could help!
i got a kymco agyility 50 this summer and its a blast around town lol. ive been watching to learn how to do some basic tuning
Hey man been watching throttle therapy. And decided “well hell” now I bought a dongfang super 200
Friends,
Haha 16:47 My wife saw this and said, “Is he disabled?” Next question, “That is how he cleans his shop, with his pants?” Hahacha great video. I would like to see top speed comparison of the different weights.
Thank you, Kenny
Definitely a little late seeing this video but I've got 3 mopeds 2 are 2 wheelers and 1 is a trike. I'm getting a high performance clutch for the trike so I'll have to see how that goes but Definitely nice seeing scooter content.
bought what i thought was a 50cc and it turned out to be a 125cc!! it has been totally overhauled inside and out and i would love to share what you guys inspired me to do and it to become ;)
That sounds like a good surprise lol more power is never bad🤘🤘
@@throttle_therapy Paul Walker
I just got me a 2021 vip 150cc for free and I could not be any happier..these things are awesome
They put a smile on your face!
Following for more. Just bought my first 1p57gmj powered ruckus knockoff and am in love with scooter life.
Heck yeah! Gonna try to pick up a icebear in the future for the channel so hopefully someday we can get some specific content out for you
Hell yeah! Im for sure going to stick some fresh weights on my GY6, your bike looks hella fun now!
We didn't expect it to work that well! You are going to have a blast
I bought a clapped moped for 75 bucks, blew up the top end didn't get all the metal out and blew the bottom end, just replaced the moped and still don't even have 300 in to it lol things are great to beat on
Dang that's awesome!
Bros, y'all are hilarious, I have a 150cc gy6 and I have the performance rollers and I get the same type of response off the line. But I'm going to have to get that CDI box you guys I got so I can dial it up. Thanks!!!
Thanks we appreciate that a lot!🤘🤘 make sure to check out our other content too! Our scooter videos do great, but we have some great stuff with our other toys as well
What gram of performance rollers you are using bro?
Dr pulley 8.5 gram. I'll put a new belt on it and after I put a new belt on I ended up taking the doctor pulley rollers out and just using normal rollers. For some reason it gets me a better top speed
This week I’m officially buying my first 150 cc moped and I am definitely gonna buy CDI a fox and a really nice carburetor for it I encouraged myself to get a 150 mL moped I was writing to 50 but no I thought I’d go ahead and bump up and have some more manpower
I am in Michigan. I've been following these videos as I work on De-restricting my Wolf RX50.
I have not found any genuinely low restriction muffler and headpipes. I ended up fabricating both an intake and a muffler system.
I didn't see any point to upsizing and rejetting a larger carb until the restrictions were removed.
I don't want a 55mph scooter. But one that is better off the line and has a bit more mid range torque. I'm trying to avoid doing a "big bore" kit and a cam. But, it's within my capabilities. But this scooter doesn't have a good suspension for 50mph and Michigan's shitty roads.
that is awesome! the cool factor goes way up with custom fab parts.
@@throttle_therapy with fuel prices going sky high, you guys could gain a huge number of subscribers by doing a focused, four part series on de restriction on a 49cc, 4 stroke scooter.
The basic stuff required to get 49cc scoot improved just enough to make it a more balanced performer instead of the slightly oversized toy that it is when we pull it out of the box.
@@scottbrown7415 that is a really good idea! Thanks. Unfortunately it's getting pretty cold here in Minnesota.. makes it hard to ride. I bet we could figure something out though
@@scottbrown7415 YES 💯!!
That was awsome i have a 150 gy6 taotao lancer do u kno how to make it go faster by taking the little screw out of the top of the carburetor cap I heard someone else mentioned that just don't know how to do maybe you can help
One easy and simple way to get a whole lot more power and RPM's out of it is to do away with the whole spark plug wire and coil and CDI box get a coil on plug from like a four-cylinder car that has individual coil built on top of the plug and it just has three or four wires running into each run your power wire to your power switch and then your ground and third wire you run it to your signal wire from your stator it's parked just like it would tell your CDI to make the plugs spark in that will free up a lot of restriction and it actually sparks a whole lot stronger and some people say that you can't get timeing advance that way but timeing advance doesn't exist on these mopeds because it only sparks when the flywheel magnet passes the sensor so no matter what RPM you're going it still takes 360 degrees for that magnet to pass the sensor again have done this with almost every one of mine with coils off of a BMW
I'm just messing with you guys but I'm doing so much work on my own to make it go faster watching rolling wrench getting good ideas you guys are doing the same thing but I don't know what state you guys are in let's rendezvous this summer and I'm going to show you how fast my GY6 scooter is
Does it use the gas faster or the same? Thank u help me on changing the speed faster. My Tao Tao 150cc 2012 goes 60 no problem. So now I'm going to try this. Going to try this now on mine. loved the videos. Thank u Tina
Any recommendations for a Vitacci Clash 200 EFI? Hoping for the best, have heard some recommended modifications and found one in decent condition.
Thank you guys for the vids!
i honestly don’t get why you don’t have more subs
we don't get it either... spread the word. We will get there some day! Thanks for watching
@@throttle_therapy i will. i have a piaggio x8 and a benelli k2 100. been trying to figure out how to make them both go a bit quicker so hoping vids like these will help
That's awesome! If you do get them to go quicker/faster you should comment with an update! we would love to hear about it
@@throttle_therapy well, would you know how to make the Benelli quicker? It’s a 100cc 2 stroke no mods at all and id like around 60 out of it. I was thinking about an exhaust but don’t know if it’d do much
I will be over to give you guys a wheelie lesson soon.
We need a college level course in wheelies
I got that same cdi I guess it works good couldnt tell the difference with just that but when I fully built or put on all the bolt ones I notice a bigger difference now I just put a bbk and new gears so I wanna see what's the difference
Cool! We're going to have to do more this summer with ours. We have barely scratched the surface of mods
@@throttle_therapy i live in Los Angeles Cal
I watched this vid like 3 times. You guys are mad funny!!
🤘🤣🤣
I'm looking for the links to the CDI box and the bearings!! I need those ASAP!!
Did yall ever do a clean air mod on this one? I finally started ripping proper wheelies and every time I do, theres oil Everywhere.
I have 200cc tyien chonese beast.. did carb and exhaust what variator/belt/weights to get over 70 hits 69 and moves
I wanting my scooter to get a little more power. I have put on a new breather. Helped a little. But I still want more power.
I have a 50cc TaoTao it wants to bog down at top speed. Put new carburetor on and removed pet cock put on shut off valve directly from tank to carb. Also removed air box put on the air pod that came with carburetor. Any suggestions? Could it be something in my tank restricting gas flow.
You might have to tune the carb a bit or re jet it. I'd take the carb off and check it and clean it first tho.
Do you add heavier weights or lighter weights to get better torque out of the scooter?
How to get to top speed faster on a moped
lighter rollers maybe diff exhaust if it is a two stroke but if it is a four stroke it doesn't matter if you got an exhaust on with a pot just a short pipe works fine
So this is my first video with you guys and I have to say I loving it cuz I couldn't find any videos when the weights was change and I got to see the change so thank you guys for that I just got a 2019 pcx150 and it's tune up time and I was wondering what rollers to put in it dr pulleys I hear are great want a lil more torque but way more top end
Awesome to hear! Dr pulleys are good. for more speed you will want a little heavier roller! like a 14 or 15g maybe
@@throttle_therapy I'll definitely give them a try and let you guys know thanks
@@throttle_therapyget a bigger variator. That way you can put in really light weights without losing much top end if any. I got 9g sliders in mine at it does around 70 and I am at a very high elevation
The cdi link in the description, goes to the blue $9 AC cd
Not the uellow $20 dc cdi,
I'm thinking about trying the yellow dc cdi in my 2008 Zen 150T Rebel/Rowdy, yes mine is an early model , it has Rebel 150 on the side covers, instead of the current ( Rowdy ), same scoot different name,
Its a heavy beast 290# large tubilar frame, makes for a good town & country Cruiser,, riding solo top speed is 56 -58
,Its a copy of the Honda Big Rukus, maybe some day I'll get a big bore kit for it,
About 2010 i installed s 70cc bore kit on a Honda 2 stroke Urban Express, and a expansion exhaust I purchased from Hawaii, these are very light NoPeds, the first time opened the throttle on this setup it popped a Wheelie and dragged the tip of the exhaust on the street and made s screaping mark, boy was i surprised
When you are putting the cover back on, put the kick start on and push it down a little so the spring comes out . Bosh
what is the rpm of your clutch spring and torque/center spring?
Stock center spring, 1500 rpm clutch springs
@@throttle_therapy thanks a lot from ph, stock center I believe that's going to be 1000rpm
Yeah throttle therapy rules. I love all gy6
what kind of scooter is the yellow one. Im looking for body parts for mine but cant find any
Awesome video. Will it work on the 49cc gy6?
My dad has a lance pch50 that I started tearing into sat for 2 years was filled w. Water
how many grams are the original weights? i'd like to get a scooter and make it more powerful
Do you know if the cdi box you used had the male or female hookups? Does it matter? I’m new to this but I order one already that wouldn’t hook up to my scooter
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Watch this video! It helped us when we needed to figure out our cdi box questions.
I have a Rockford Tora with no engine and have a lead on a Taotao 150cc GY6. Could I put a 420 sprocket on the output shaft, mount the engine forward and put a chain from the output shaft to the rear sprocket?$30 for the engine but I don't want to waste the time on a non productive project.
how are you all , i have been watching your video on your 150 cc gy6 scooter your scooter looks fun with the mods you have done , i am going to put a 150cc top end on my scooter , have you added a performance rear clutch on your scooter or only added the rollers , what rollers would you recommend for my gy6 150 cc thanks fro byron
Can you use this on any mopad or dose it have to be a certain type?
I own a 2013 Kymco Super 8 150. How do I start making it faster? What mods?
I am having issues with the engagement of my clutch it works but grabs weird and hear a rattle a little bit. My exhaust cracked around the weld I want a performance setup. Thank have the x pro x-19 150cc succored 20201 model. Please lmk what I can and should do I would really appreciate it 🙏
I only have 1k miles on her!!!
I am looking for more top end. Goes 52 like this one!!!
Cool will it work on a 50cc with the big bore with full mods as about do one what do for think good fun. Jeff in UK
Keep the vids coming
Ice bear 150cc with that style cdi box went to 13g and thinking of a 24mm carb maybe different clutch set up
my neighbor moved out and gifted me a free 2005 schwinn moped with 49 original miles. ill be buying a new carb and posting off road videos on it
Wow! That's awesome🤘 you are going to have a ton of fun with that! Good luck
Not sure how to DM but came across your channel researching. I am thinking of flipping mopeds any advice for starting out
Make sure you are very familiar with the machines you are flipping. Start with 1 or two Mopeds/scooters and see how that goes. It should be pretty straightforward and simple. Good luck!👍👍
My 50 cc tao with full exhaust cdi box upgraded carb an air box can do 40 but I'm only 150 lbs
i got scooter look like ur 150cc red and black on a basic black one i can hit speeds of 50 it putter for first few sec befor start moving up to 50 and i belive almost 60 with basic black one mine only have a maby 1000 miles on it or still in the 900 just seem to have proplems with hair coming out the oil yes i said hair coming out the oil rubbery black stuff from spark plug and dead battery good thing only cost 140$ and little tlc and running great
I have a scooter 50cc but I have a 100cc big boy kit but it's still a 50cc I do have the kit on
The only torque increase Is gonna come from a bore kit. Everything else is just making it respond faster. A cdi is not gonna increase spark... only allow a better spark. Weights will make ur rpm change. Not add low end.
It matters which way the rollers go in too don't forget to mention that in your next video
Y'all the reason I want to get that orange muffler for my Tao Tao 50cc scooter. I want to talk to y'all bout my scooter.
I seen a kid battery powered dirt bike somebody was throwing away of course the battery is bad and it was one of the better dirt bikes have front and back shocks and brakes took the batteries out of it put four 20-volt drill batteries in it note the little box for the throttle is only rated for 36 volts but it would peel tires with me on it I'm 186 lb
Efi for about three hundred and probld cylinder piston cam kit.
I have a custom made 150cc moped great bike but I want to go way faster I want to be able to hit 75 on it so that I can go on the highway to get to places Icant get to without a car any ideas on what I could do I already spent 2k on the bike any ideas
Do all of the mods lol. It can be done! Just gatta put more money into it
really good content
Thank you!!!🤘🤘
I put a cdi on my new chinese gy6 from amazon and the exhaust manifold gasket blew out lol.
I go to the cdi box link and it says page not found … is it still available???
So I just cleaned my jets out but now it stutters to get up to 30mph its a 50cc gy6 thanks in advance
I just put my transmission together on my 50cc summer and I've got six and a half gram rollers mixed with eight and a half gram rollers and it's maxing out at about 45 on it straight away I want more torque what kind of spring should I put in the clutch I want the needle to bury 50 mph it's going about 40 42 mph I'm not going to say 45 because I let off the throttle when it was about 42
We have the 1500 rpm small springs in the clutch. those seem to make the most difference
What if you just take out and lave out the weights!?
What would be a good digital speedometer for a 2022 Tao Tao 50cc
i have a 150cc gy6 yamaha scooter , im thinking of slapping a fat carb on it and a nice exhaust with maybe a cdi?
Sounds like a party!!🤘
@@throttle_therapy quite , only difference is mine is a big wheel scooter/moped so it hits 70mph stock , but im looking for some 0 to 30 acceleration
@@emperor_xsara holy crap!! Haha that's awesome. What brand is it? Or did you do a big wheel conversion of some kind?
Just saw yamaha duhh... lol
@@throttle_therapy yeah it came like that xD
My carb needle broke at the skinny part will the bike b ok to ride
You guys should try to get anything with a gy6 to do 100mph!
I agree!
I want to buy a V150Ss it has the GY6 engine but they are very not reliable and getting is used one is garenteed to brake down
That's part of the fun tho!! Learn to love working on it👍👍
I got a 150 cc VIP bc of yall
heck yeah🤟
Watching again sitting in my living room with my scooter to hot 🤣🤣
I bought a Big bore kit but I haven't put it on because I don't feel like I need to do that it's running damn near more than perfect actually it is because the book only calls for 25 miles an hour top speed brand new I've got it going 42 miles an hour and that's the bottom number that's not the top number it's f****** nice
Thats awesome! they are fun when they run perfect!
The baring inside my clutch for the clutch side drive shaft to messed up when shaft broke what can I do
F lmao you guys having a blast buying me one today lolol🤣
Do it! They are so fun it's awesome
I'm trying to put a 250cc motor on a 150cc how do I go about that
It can probably be done! We haven't gotten a chance to play with a 250cc tho. If we can get our hands on one we will definitely make some videos with it. But unfortunately we don't know enough sorry we couldn't be more helpful
My scooter whont start bit I'd sounded like it was the starter but I switched it and was not the problem
Does that part work for tao Tao 150
It should work
Yup, should be all different body/frame variations of the same gy6 motor.
I'm curious. For some reason I can't fathom you guys call scooters 'mopeds' a name that has been used for years in Europe to describe (usually) 49cc bikes that have both a MOtor and PEDals either of which can propel the vehicle. Think about the millions of Mobylettes, Puchs, Velosolex, Peugeots, Zundapps, NSUs that are around (and to a lesser extent Hondas, Yamahas and Suzukis). So what do you call actual, well, mopeds?
you guys are awesome ....i want some stickers
What app you used to see how fast you was going
Gps speedometer. There are a few options on the app store
hi guys you guys are fun. sweet.
Thanks!