Grass/Gravel/Snow mode - designed to inspire safe and confident driving on off-road slippery and uneven surfaces Mud/Sand mode - tuning vehicle responses for optimum traction and momentum in deep, deformable surfaces like loose sand and mud Rock mode - specifically for low-speed rocky terrain where smooth controllability is key. Put it in the right mode guys
You guys can say anything about the Hilux... but if both have to go through this kind of road on a regular basis, there's no doubt which one will last much longer. And, if both do need repairs you can bet the Hilux will not be as bad on your pocket.
Hilux is obviously better with true walk in the park ability plus when you look at price. Hilux is definitely value for money. No frills and gets the job done
If you are going to test two 4WD's then make sure you don't have any bias towards a brand in doing so. Carrying more speed in the hilux is an obvious issue in the tests to point out and then also what tyre pressures where you running in the raptor? The tyres did not look as low in pressure as the hiluxes did. Also get the right drive mode for the conditions. You seemed more happy in a lower tech 4WD than the more high tech system found in the ford but then you should be fully learning and understanding both before testing them. What works on a lower tech system is not what works best on a more updated hightech system.
Driving a hilux daily it holds gears in LowRange quite well. Especially in down hill. The ride is average and has no balls for overtaking etc. flex is pretty good. Good to see factory rear lockers finally. Only 8 years after Mitsubishi offered it on the Triton.
We went for an off-road course with ford when we bought one and they explained all the features and how to correctly use them These guys don’t know how to drive it correctly
Just need to point out that the Rangers traction control disengages as soon as the 4x4 Low is engaged. Also the Raptor there looked like it had ALOT more air in the tyres and was being driven ALOT slower. Not a very good comparison.
Martin Judd it was being driven slower because it had less traction. Hilux is a lot more capable immediately from factory where as raptors aren’t AS capable but still okay, especially if you have money to get the right modifications
Not true. The Ranger (2016 onwards) maintains traction control when in low AND when rear locked. The Toyota doesn't. Big difference when it gets a little harder than this, the Rugged X simply can't keep up. Mind you, stick a front locker on the Rugged X and... (Then all you need to worry about is the dodgy DPF!);-)
So the raptor has 33” bfg tires and a fox lift, and it’s worse than the on road tires on the stock hilux. Plus the rugged x is almost $20;000 cheaper. No brainer decision
Chief Wiggum everyone complains about the hilux “having a bumpy ride” but I truely think that the bumpy on road ride is due to its outstanding off road performance ! You can’t have the best of both worlds and so I think it’s all buyers preference! I personally own a hilux and yes it’s bumpy unloaded but once I have my tools loaded into the back which is almost every day for work it settles down quite nicely !
A good overview there. I have the stock Ranger (well, almost stock- lifted and 33's) and have taken it on tracks with a Rugged X. The traction control on the "Yota is significantly better. The problem for the Rugged X comes when you get the next stage harder and need to put the lockers in. The front traction control on the 'Yota turns off and it is behind the Ranger by a long shot. THIS is where cv's are broken. The maintenance of front traction control with the rear locker in is the main reason I chose the Ranger over the Toyota. So far, I haven't regretted the decision but if you don't at least occasionally play hard, the Rugged X is a great vehicle and, as you noted, still quite capable. Whack a front locker in the Rugged X (& better tyres) and you'd be well pleased.
These test don't let the raptor do its thing. Raptor will do this trails, but its strong suit is elsewhere like being confortable, able to drive fast offroad, etc.
Just saying this because your a Ford raptor fan if you haven’t seen the conquest the raptor is crushed by it the Toyota conquest is like the Toyota hilux but better and more reliable.
Warning: essay This video was made 2 years ago, and I just got my Ranger Raptor 5 months ago. This is my first time watching this video. I just got back from tracking a trail we're planning to develop into a road (I'm a contractor). There's a lot of deep ruts like in this video, and a lot of loose mud over base course on the flats we just graded. It was raining hard that time. All I have to say is, whoever was driving that Raptor is too affected by Ford's questionable reliability. To be honest, I'm just waiting for my 10 speed to grenade. Idgaf, though, because I'm covered by a 555 promo (5 year warranty, 5 years free maintenance, 5 years free roadside assistance.) I've dealt with shitty Ford aftersales before, but I can definitely make a claim for the gearbox because it really is made out of glass and I can prove it's Ford's fault lol. So how did I go about the trail? I said fuck it and used the Fox shocks and Baja mode for what they're meant to do. I didn't use Rock or Mud mode on the ruts anymore because I was confident enough not to need them, plus the BFG K02 tires gripped fine on the first try so I didn't bother. instagram.com/p/CZqs2sRPPAF/? Here's some shitty pictures of the Raptor on the flats. We couldn't take good pics anywhere else because we just took advantage of a small window when the site security wasn't looking. I gotta say, no other truck on site could perform as effortlessly as my Raptor. We've got Stradas (Triton), Hiluxes, and Navaras, but none of them had the Raptor's straight-up control. All of us slid on the mud, and even the on site PM who was our guide to our designated lot in a Navara Pro-4X would rather go around the ruts than go straight through them. I just went through no problem. We roamed the land for about 2 hours to discuss site schedule and all that jazz while traversing ruts, loose mud, and some muddy puddles that would sink an unsuspecting truck. After the site inspection, my team still had to go back to the office to report, so I drove 40km back on asphalt with dried mud still on the body and wheel wells. It looked pretty cool. The best part, though, is that after all that abuse, there were no rattles, no vibrations, no alignment issues, nothing. It was like I never went through the trail at all. What about the Hilux, though? Let's just say the 2017 suspension upgrade so that it passes the moose test did absolutely nothing. It's still the truck that I see toppled at the side of the road all the time. That title used to belong to the 1st gen Ford Everest. Not anymore. Personally, it's also rather ugly and spartan. It's not reliable anymore, too. I'm getting a lot of nightmare stories about DPF failures and straight-up shit ride quality. The window controls are the first thing to break, and on brand new units too. It's weird seeing somebody in a Hilux Conquest, for example, opening his entire door just to get a toll ticket. It happens a lot. I wouldn't comment on it if it didn't happen so much. I've driven a Hilux Conquest before. It doesn't have a bash plate nor snorkel but otherwise it's the same truck. It's not bad at all. It just isn't the almighty indestructible ISIS transporter that it used to be. In the end, even the Ranger Wildtrak severely outperforms the Hilux. All the latter has going for it is brand loyalty. The Ranger Raptor is absolutely a league above all of them, and actually has a better payload than the Rugged X (750kg RR vs. 738kg HRX). Oh, and about the price, I live in the Philippines, so we got the Ranger Raptor for an equivalent AUD54300. You guys with your taxes got it rough. If you were patient enough to read this, congrats, we both wasted time lol. I just can't fathom how a driver can waste so much potential with all the best stock equipment in the midsize truck category.
Great review. I know there were a few unhappy reviewers feeling it’s biased towards the Ruggered, however still found the test useful. Out of interest, has anyone purchased one they didn’t have their heart set on at the beginning and why? My heart was set on the Ford but I keep coming back to the Toyota. I have no allegiance to either and believe both are excellent overall. Let me know if you were in similar position and what changed your mind.
I bought the Ford Ranger XLT. I'm a little disappointed with the auto gearbox. Takes a bit of getting used to and feels a bit slippy. Plenty of tuning options available to change that but it will void the drive train warranty. To be fair I did come from a manual. Apart from that it's a really good car. Great on road. Very comfortable interior and the tech is really good with adaptive cruise and lane assist. For off road it's a lot easier to fit 33s or larger on the Ranger compared to the Hilux which makes a big difference when modded. The PX3 has the bump stop in the shock which limits front wheel travel to a degree but IFS has pretty poor articulation no matter what. Options to change that too with hydraulic bumpstops etc if you have the dollars.
Why not lock the rear diffs of the utes? This comparison seems worthless without doing that because that's how everyone will use the utes in the situations shown in the video.
@@willcarvolth6171 Hilux generation VII 2006-2016. They are notorious rust buckets, made from cheap chinese steel. 750k recalled in the US and given extended corrosion warranties. My 2010 rusted out in 8 years Toyota didn't want to know. My neighbours was even worse. Get rid of yours quick!
So the HilLux on standard road tyres got up the last rutted hill with less wheel spin and quicker. Yet the Raptor took a bit longer and had more wheel spin.
Rock mode was the wrong mode for that and he stopped the Ford several times, making it jerky while maintaining the momentum in the Toyota. From a Toyota guy....
I think the raptor badge is focused on offroad baja. Thats why it couldnt perform well on those tracks. The ranger raptor is certainly on a different category. So its actually a bad comparison.
I read the comments and some people having a mistake about Ford Ranger Raptor and Ford F-150 Raptor They both are different truck. Ford Ranger Raptor Engine Turbocharged 2.0-Liter Four-Cylinder Diesel 210HP. Ford F-150 Raptor twin-turbocharged high-output 3.5L EcoBoost V6 450HP
My opinion, both cars are Capable for this job. It all depends on what the drivers drivingstyle is. Anyhow I got a Ranger Wildtrack with an off-road 4X4 pack and it does good to my likings.
I think the Wildtrak is an amazingly comfortable and versatile Ute, but I choose Hilux to avoid the endlessly irritating safety features of the Wildtrak. Lights all over the dash, sensors buzzing at me all the time. I don’t buy a Ute so it can tell me how to drive it. I’d get a Tesla if I wanted that
@@unknown5827 Haha have a go at it, We use them at work for everything! We tow massive machines, tools trailers, and we towed my bosses 8m boat and big caravan with out a problem! The new 2021 models are great. 👍🏽
The massive difference between these two.is the Ford will thrash it with its superior suspension at pace. Which means it can keep momentum where the hilux can not.
Ahh no it won’t. The raptors suspension is not as heavy duty and is made more for comfort whereas the hilux has leaf springs made for heavy duty work. So the raptor will handle better on road and go faster but will not outlast the ruggedx. The Toyota will have less repairs and will be cheaper to maintain which is exactly what Toyota is well known for.
Roberto M. Squillaci Filho and how often will the typical raptor owner enter a Baja race with his raptor? Never or at least incredibly rarely unless they have a lot of money. If you want to design a 4wd in Australia you need to make it capable for slow articulate driving, not Baja racing’s like raptors were made in mind of. And anyway it would be a pretty even race anyway, raptors will last longer, but when it breaks will take ages to get parts, ruggedx last nearly as long, parts a lot easier accessible and get going again faster. Australian designed 4wds are made for practicality not race trucks
For Me, Both are impressive, they are well engineered... but they are bit differ in a certain road condition... Raptor is extremely good fast in a plain straight rough road whereas, Hilux is good in a rough mountain because of a bigger .4 or .8 engine compare to raptor which is 2.0...
Good traction control test! Once the magic button DL is pressed the playing fields are even except in this case the Raptor has front EDL which the Lux doesn’t have. Fit recent Tyres and a 50ml lift and the Lux becomes unstoppable.
Of course its easy to pass the offload tests. Even a suzuki jimny can easily traverse those obstacles. But the Raptor's test of durability against time and is yet to be known against the invisible Hiluxes.
WOW just wow! My dream car....... how i wish someday i could have one of those.. when i was a kid i was deeply inlove with pick up trucks. Ford raptor is a beast! But then after seeing hilux ohh man.. twin brotha of raptor beast! Gift me pleaseeee lol
This seems a little bit biased. In my opinion Hilux was driven with more momentum. Also if the rear locker is used ranger keeps tc upfront while the Hilux doesn't. Why not use the lockers if the hill obviously called for it? Anyways I enjoyed the video. Overall good job!
Be good if you could get the NTrek Warrior and test that alongside these two vehicles then compare all three against BT50, Triton, and Amarok. The point being whether paying the extra dollars is worth it or are you better off buying a standard model and upgrading it.
Need the same tires to tell about the grip with each system. The hilux will slip easier while the ranger with bigger tires are grabbing harder makes it bounce more.
The hilux is obviously a more reliable and all around better 4WD than the ford raptor. Hilux wins even though it was running on shitty small highway tires
Some people commenting why ranger have no rear diff lock and not fair cos there is load in the back. Load in the back tray gives a truck more traction. And ranger have bigger off-road tyres. And ranger have diff lock. Both cars diff was switched off. In other words. Ranger is an over priced truck Wich requires alot of maintenance In the long run.
Now, you clearly couldn't blame the tires for this. The Toyota Hilux did better despite having disadvantages of those stock h/t tires and lack of advanced off road tech like the Ford's terrain selection system etc.
But it was dry so more rubber on the trail wouldn't hurt it. Actually might be an advantage. Trust me my LR3 on street tires is better on dry climbs than my locked f150 with mud tires.
F Henry hilux seemed more capable imo, raptors suspension was made in thought of Suspension that’s Baja capable, meaning faster response time and smoother suspension at speeds not necessarily slow articulation, where as hilux suspension is made for Australian tradies, so boggy worksites, weekenders etc. Meaning hilux, good for basically anything Raptor good for corrugated roads etc but just as capable off-road if you’ve got the money to spend on modifications I’m not biased at all, in fact I like raptors more but hiluxs are capable rigs from factory and always have been
@@thatsgangsta2450 Not when it gets harder. Put the lockers in both vehicles and the Raptor (and the standard Ranger) maintain their traction control. Very different story.
F Henry...if the tires are more "Big and Flat" it will have better traction so it's actually more capable. The Hilux had standard factory tires. So the ford should be more capable but it's not LMAO
Hahaha i got hilux rugged x and even i know you guys are biased asf. And raptor clearly in wrong mode and psi seem higher than the hilux! Hahaha, its okay but you should also tell the viewers with the true cons on the hilux, all good though i still enjoyed vid. Thumbs down for the untold truth though
I don’t have a Hilux, as iv got a 200. But all I can say is iv been more then impressed then being in my mates. Iv been in my brothers mate Raptor and I was very disappointed. I just don’t think there is any comparison sorry Ford fan not trying to be disrespectful. 👍🏽
What is even more impressive is the cost- considering 1 Thai Baht is worth zip in AUD these vehicles are real money spinners (pun intended) as you can't lock the cost differential! Both Toyota and Ford followed by Mazda and Nissan make exorbitant profit more like a car and a half per vehicle sold.
If you do your research the new hilux’s are having heaps of trouble mechanically. I’m in regional WA a Toyota dominated place and people are jumping ship left right and centre to many problems.
I’ve owned a sr5 2015 for 8 months my family have been Toyota people and I also worked for Toyota workshop for 3 years (quit in 2015). My hilux has been in the workshop 4-5 times for the same issue DPF, first they cleaned it, second they installed a burn switch, 3rd, 4th, clean and 5th DPF replacement mine wasn’t the only one. On top of that it had really bad fuel consumption I sit on 10.5l/100 and I do 80% highway also tail shaft has no nipple to re-grease so it kept making a thud at every stop got that replaced too. So I traded the car in.
SubaBuu emission requirements have killed reliability and performance. That is why the 80/100/75 series 4.2TD cruisers and even Pootrols have skyrocketed, people want performance and reliability.
Deezy and I don’t think Toyota has properly fixed this issue as it’s a design flaw, they would probably need to redesign the whole thing that would take a lot of bucks to do... I really don’t understand how they would not come across this issue before production... 🙄
SubaBuu every “Toyota man” I know here in NW WA is jumping off them and getting into Isuzu’s as they have the “Toyota” like reliability and fundamental performance.
Deezy yeah been hearing that the Isuzu has been killing it lately, I don’t know I like my WRX I have now no issues at all, but I do miss having a 4x4. I don’t know I might go for a ranger XLT or just go all out for the Raptor.
not a good comparison. Raptor's got a 4x low mode, I can tell because none of the other wheels were spinning, (forgot to do the lock diff) they already have a traction control. the 2nd part is that they probably have it at 4X high and a bunch of weights in the back ( maybe some tow bar). Very bias video..
The ford traction control system is certainly a more reactive over proactive system, that said, it still is an amazing system, much better then other dual cab systems (HiLux aside) Though in rock mode traction control is off. The thing with rangers is that, if your loosing traction, keep your foot in it, then it works it out and acts kind of like a front locker
How good is it seeing a video, where the vehicles are the focus, not the presenters trying to recite specs.
Traction control is turned off when rock mode is turned on in the raptor.
When it comes to comfort during long, bumpy rides, I'd go for the Ford Ranger any day.
very right
The ford had off-road tire where as the hilux had road tires but still performed better just shows how much better Toyota is
Grass/Gravel/Snow mode - designed to inspire safe and confident driving on off-road slippery and uneven surfaces
Mud/Sand mode - tuning vehicle responses for optimum traction and momentum in deep, deformable surfaces like loose sand and mud
Rock mode - specifically for low-speed rocky terrain where smooth controllability is key.
Put it in the right mode guys
You guys can say anything about the Hilux... but if both have to go through this kind of road on a regular basis, there's no doubt which one will last much longer. And, if both do need repairs you can bet the Hilux will not be as bad on your pocket.
Hilux is obviously better with true walk in the park ability plus when you look at price. Hilux is definitely value for money. No frills and gets the job done
Yes you're right. But it's butt ugly no matter what off road limited edition package they throw on it...
I have driven both, and I'm not biased,,but, the raptor is the car I'd buy...more grunt from a smaller motor
And that's not a good thing
If you are going to test two 4WD's then make sure you don't have any bias towards a brand in doing so. Carrying more speed in the hilux is an obvious issue in the tests to point out and then also what tyre pressures where you running in the raptor? The tyres did not look as low in pressure as the hiluxes did. Also get the right drive mode for the conditions. You seemed more happy in a lower tech 4WD than the more high tech system found in the ford but then you should be fully learning and understanding both before testing them. What works on a lower tech system is not what works best on a more updated hightech system.
Tamiya Fan THIS!!
That and it sounded like the park brake was pulled on in the raptor, listen to the brake squeel all the way up the hill climb
@@HighTowerAU brakes control traction , thats how it works
Very aptly said brother....
Tamiya Fan *4WDs were* you *hilux's
I love the look of the raptor but will always take the hilux.
It’s that badge Toyota, you know you are always going to get home.
yep, no wonder hilux is the best selling utes in almost every countries it's available..
@@Bodonism even the t3rr0r1st using it
Dumb
Toyota, the king of mediocrity 🥱
Driving a hilux daily it holds gears in LowRange quite well. Especially in down hill. The ride is average and has no balls for overtaking etc. flex is pretty good. Good to see factory rear lockers finally. Only 8 years after Mitsubishi offered it on the Triton.
They had the raptor in totally the wrong mode. And they have no idea what they are doing
Ikr
We will never get a proper comparrison
We went for an off-road course with ford when we bought one and they explained all the features and how to correctly use them
These guys don’t know how to drive it correctly
I had the same feeling..not a good comparison
Agree..
Hilux didnt even try hard nice and smooth 👌👌
Just need to point out that the Rangers traction control disengages as soon as the 4x4 Low is engaged. Also the Raptor there looked like it had ALOT more air in the tyres and was being driven ALOT slower. Not a very good comparison.
Hilux disengages when in low aswell just a FYI. They also said tyres were at 18 psi, would assume they set them both low?
Martin Judd it was being driven slower because it had less traction. Hilux is a lot more capable immediately from factory where as raptors aren’t AS capable but still okay, especially if you have money to get the right modifications
Not true. The Ranger (2016 onwards) maintains traction control when in low AND when rear locked. The Toyota doesn't. Big difference when it gets a little harder than this, the Rugged X simply can't keep up. Mind you, stick a front locker on the Rugged X and... (Then all you need to worry about is the dodgy DPF!);-)
@@thatsgangsta2450 No, get out and try in the real world.
So the raptor has 33” bfg tires and a fox lift, and it’s worse than the on road tires on the stock hilux. Plus the rugged x is almost $20;000 cheaper. No brainer decision
Chief Wiggum everyone complains about the hilux “having a bumpy ride” but I truely think that the bumpy on road ride is due to its outstanding off road performance ! You can’t have the best of both worlds and so I think it’s all buyers preference! I personally own a hilux and yes it’s bumpy unloaded but once I have my tools loaded into the back which is almost every day for work it settles down quite nicely !
Yes especially if you are self employed writing everything off tax showing zero income you can always afford the latest gizmo and hot chicks.....
its a biased review....
@@millardkeyes5187 huh?
Chief Wiggum the hilux has a poor ride quality fuxk that
Nice vid, both are impressive vehicles, would like to see the raptor do the last hill in other modes tho to see the difference.
Just two Australians having fun in thier back yard xD
A good overview there. I have the stock Ranger (well, almost stock- lifted and 33's) and have taken it on tracks with a Rugged X. The traction control on the "Yota is significantly better. The problem for the Rugged X comes when you get the next stage harder and need to put the lockers in. The front traction control on the 'Yota turns off and it is behind the Ranger by a long shot. THIS is where cv's are broken. The maintenance of front traction control with the rear locker in is the main reason I chose the Ranger over the Toyota. So far, I haven't regretted the decision but if you don't at least occasionally play hard, the Rugged X is a great vehicle and, as you noted, still quite capable. Whack a front locker in the Rugged X (& better tyres) and you'd be well pleased.
Great advice...
On the uphill part, why did you go so much slower in the raptor? Redo the test, stay at a constant speed in both trucks
i know you are ford guy,,,but hey you can't beat a hilux lol
They was being very careful with the Raptor. The probably just borrowed it and was afraid to scratch it.
@@ronyalefaio Lol Hilux is a joke in front of ranger , just taxi fankid things
i want to buy the Ranger Raptor, but cant..... 😔😔
These test don't let the raptor do its thing. Raptor will do this trails, but its strong suit is elsewhere like being confortable, able to drive fast offroad, etc.
Jose M one thing a pick up truck always has. Off-road capabilities
Jose M agree, passed a whole bunch of utes bogged on Frasier island while the raptor was playing in the sand like toddler with a new toy 😉
Jose M This* test *doesn't
Just saying this because your a Ford raptor fan if you haven’t seen the conquest the raptor is crushed by it the Toyota conquest is like the Toyota hilux but better and more reliable.
Warning: essay
This video was made 2 years ago, and I just got my Ranger Raptor 5 months ago. This is my first time watching this video.
I just got back from tracking a trail we're planning to develop into a road (I'm a contractor). There's a lot of deep ruts like in this video, and a lot of loose mud over base course on the flats we just graded. It was raining hard that time.
All I have to say is, whoever was driving that Raptor is too affected by Ford's questionable reliability. To be honest, I'm just waiting for my 10 speed to grenade. Idgaf, though, because I'm covered by a 555 promo (5 year warranty, 5 years free maintenance, 5 years free roadside assistance.) I've dealt with shitty Ford aftersales before, but I can definitely make a claim for the gearbox because it really is made out of glass and I can prove it's Ford's fault lol.
So how did I go about the trail?
I said fuck it and used the Fox shocks and Baja mode for what they're meant to do. I didn't use Rock or Mud mode on the ruts anymore because I was confident enough not to need them, plus the BFG K02 tires gripped fine on the first try so I didn't bother.
instagram.com/p/CZqs2sRPPAF/?
Here's some shitty pictures of the Raptor on the flats. We couldn't take good pics anywhere else because we just took advantage of a small window when the site security wasn't looking.
I gotta say, no other truck on site could perform as effortlessly as my Raptor. We've got Stradas (Triton), Hiluxes, and Navaras, but none of them had the Raptor's straight-up control.
All of us slid on the mud, and even the on site PM who was our guide to our designated lot in a Navara Pro-4X would rather go around the ruts than go straight through them. I just went through no problem. We roamed the land for about 2 hours to discuss site schedule and all that jazz while traversing ruts, loose mud, and some muddy puddles that would sink an unsuspecting truck.
After the site inspection, my team still had to go back to the office to report, so I drove 40km back on asphalt with dried mud still on the body and wheel wells. It looked pretty cool. The best part, though, is that after all that abuse, there were no rattles, no vibrations, no alignment issues, nothing. It was like I never went through the trail at all.
What about the Hilux, though? Let's just say the 2017 suspension upgrade so that it passes the moose test did absolutely nothing. It's still the truck that I see toppled at the side of the road all the time. That title used to belong to the 1st gen Ford Everest. Not anymore.
Personally, it's also rather ugly and spartan. It's not reliable anymore, too. I'm getting a lot of nightmare stories about DPF failures and straight-up shit ride quality. The window controls are the first thing to break, and on brand new units too. It's weird seeing somebody in a Hilux Conquest, for example, opening his entire door just to get a toll ticket. It happens a lot. I wouldn't comment on it if it didn't happen so much.
I've driven a Hilux Conquest before. It doesn't have a bash plate nor snorkel but otherwise it's the same truck. It's not bad at all. It just isn't the almighty indestructible ISIS transporter that it used to be.
In the end, even the Ranger Wildtrak severely outperforms the Hilux. All the latter has going for it is brand loyalty.
The Ranger Raptor is absolutely a league above all of them, and actually has a better payload than the Rugged X (750kg RR vs. 738kg HRX). Oh, and about the price, I live in the Philippines, so we got the Ranger Raptor for an equivalent AUD54300. You guys with your taxes got it rough.
If you were patient enough to read this, congrats, we both wasted time lol. I just can't fathom how a driver can waste so much potential with all the best stock equipment in the midsize truck category.
i think he said "no difflock engaged" on the last run. why not engage the lock
Great review. I know there were a few unhappy reviewers feeling it’s biased towards the Ruggered, however still found the test useful. Out of interest, has anyone purchased one they didn’t have their heart set on at the beginning and why? My heart was set on the Ford but I keep coming back to the Toyota. I have no allegiance to either and believe both are excellent overall. Let me know if you were in similar position and what changed your mind.
The Ford would be better as a daily driver and be nicer to drive as well. Toyota will be more durable than the Ford.
I bought the Ford Ranger XLT. I'm a little disappointed with the auto gearbox. Takes a bit of getting used to and feels a bit slippy. Plenty of tuning options available to change that but it will void the drive train warranty. To be fair I did come from a manual. Apart from that it's a really good car. Great on road. Very comfortable interior and the tech is really good with adaptive cruise and lane assist. For off road it's a lot easier to fit 33s or larger on the Ranger compared to the Hilux which makes a big difference when modded. The PX3 has the bump stop in the shock which limits front wheel travel to a degree but IFS has pretty poor articulation no matter what. Options to change that too with hydraulic bumpstops etc if you have the dollars.
Why not lock the rear diffs of the utes? This comparison seems worthless without doing that because that's how everyone will use the utes in the situations shown in the video.
Which one will last longer? and also the one with the best resale value will be the winner.. drive safe😇
New Hilux has bad rust problems. Chassis fall apart after 5 years.
@@agt155 They havent even been out 5 years... weve had our 2015 Hilux for 4 years and it pretty much lives on the beach and no rust at all...
@@willcarvolth6171 Hilux generation VII 2006-2016. They are notorious rust buckets, made from cheap chinese steel. 750k recalled in the US and given extended corrosion warranties. My 2010 rusted out in 8 years Toyota didn't want to know. My neighbours was even worse. Get rid of yours quick!
agt155 your obviously not in australia... not a problem here
agt155 Hilux is japan made , how can it have Chinese body you big con hater 😂😂😂
It’s a pleasure seeing some reasonable men exploring without playing ARB TJM roulette for their own insecurities. Well done.
So the HilLux on standard road tyres got up the last rutted hill with less wheel spin and quicker. Yet the Raptor took a bit longer and had more wheel spin.
Have you ever thought about becoming a detective?
Raptors are built to dominate desserts and Hilux are built for the amazons.
Rock mode was the wrong mode for that and he stopped the Ford several times, making it jerky while maintaining the momentum in the Toyota. From a Toyota guy....
What the heck is that high pitched whine from the raptor from 9:08?
Hand brake is on to make the car look and sound worst than the Hilux
Piston rings failing 😂
Its probably the TC slowing one wheel from spinning and its the brakes squealing
At only 2.0 liter the engine needs higher revolution to achieve highest torque.. thus earlier demise.
That is an awesome bar on the hilux! where can I get one of them or does anyone know the make of it?
stock on the rugged x
I think the raptor badge is focused on offroad baja. Thats why it couldnt perform well on those tracks. The ranger raptor is certainly on a different category. So its actually a bad comparison.
Yea I feel the Raptor was hamstrung with the incorrect mode and not having the TC on.
I read the comments and some people having a mistake about Ford Ranger Raptor and Ford F-150 Raptor
They both are different truck.
Ford Ranger Raptor Engine Turbocharged 2.0-Liter Four-Cylinder Diesel 210HP.
Ford F-150 Raptor twin-turbocharged high-output 3.5L EcoBoost V6 450HP
Ranger Wildtrak would be more appropriate for this comparison..maybe Tacoma TRD Offroad vs Ranger Raptor
My opinion, both cars are Capable for this job. It all depends on what the drivers drivingstyle is.
Anyhow I got a Ranger Wildtrack with an off-road 4X4 pack and it does good to my likings.
Hilux has more superior technology like the KDSS technology that's why for skids more and hilux doesn't
@@Mu5tyLaghmani only the 200 series Landcruiser has KDSS.
I think the Wildtrak is an amazingly comfortable and versatile Ute, but I choose Hilux to avoid the endlessly irritating safety features of the Wildtrak. Lights all over the dash, sensors buzzing at me all the time. I don’t buy a Ute so it can tell me how to drive it. I’d get a Tesla if I wanted that
@@AggregateUser I agree, but now even the new 2019 Hilux has Toyota Safety Sense.
Mmmmm….. can really see why the Hilux is king and that with highway terrain tyres. Imagine what it will do with a set of descent tyres!
Adrian D yeah might be good if they turned on the traction control for the Ford.
Adrian D *decent
Rock mode on a slippery surface?
so what mode do you use for river crossings for the ford raptor?
any opinions on the 2016 hilux models? or bite the bullet and splash an extra $20k for the
rugged?
Haha, good little vid.
I have a '17 hilux with a two inch lift and 33 muddies, massive upgrade in capability to these two stockies.
Love the Raptor I'm dying for one
Clearly the guy holding the camera is a Hilux lover, only had good comments foe the Hilux and pretty much nothing good for the raptor lol
Ben Nisnoni because the hilux did that just fine mate , you don’t have to hate , common now
I do give Fords credit for towing capability. Toyota...not sure but at least offroad looks fun
yanglue611 couldn’t tow an empty 6x4 trailer
@@ianstape7970 Really?! I didn't know that.
Can't tow shit on a lux
I’ve got that hilux rugged rig, can tow my 8 metre boat easy, don’t know what half these people are on
@@unknown5827 Haha have a go at it, We use them at work for everything! We tow massive machines, tools trailers, and we towed my bosses 8m boat and big caravan with out a problem! The new 2021 models are great. 👍🏽
The massive difference between these two.is the Ford will thrash it with its superior suspension at pace. Which means it can keep momentum where the hilux can not.
Ahh no it won’t. The raptors suspension is not as heavy duty and is made more for comfort whereas the hilux has leaf springs made for heavy duty work.
So the raptor will handle better on road and go faster but will not outlast the ruggedx. The Toyota will have less repairs and will be cheaper to maintain which is exactly what Toyota is well known for.
@@Nohandle4me2 ranger has fox freaking shoks xd
Roberto M. Squillaci Filho and how often will the typical raptor owner enter a Baja race with his raptor? Never or at least incredibly rarely unless they have a lot of money. If you want to design a 4wd in Australia you need to make it capable for slow articulate driving, not Baja racing’s like raptors were made in mind of. And anyway it would be a pretty even race anyway, raptors will last longer, but when it breaks will take ages to get parts, ruggedx last nearly as long, parts a lot easier accessible and get going again faster. Australian designed 4wds are made for practicality not race trucks
@@thatsgangsta2450 umm me for a start
@@warrenheslip692 lol whatever mate
You guys are just making noise, Hilux is the king! You know it...you accept it then you live without stress
Toyota Hilux sucks bro can’t even beat Ram Rebel
King of the bin you delusional peanut, you’re rusted into the Toyota badge. Raptor all the way.
For Me, Both are impressive, they are well engineered... but they are bit differ in a certain road condition... Raptor is extremely good fast in a plain straight rough road whereas, Hilux is good in a rough mountain because of a bigger .4 or .8 engine compare to raptor which is 2.0...
Please can you tell me what colour this ranger is. I love it
Gray
can you guys test other pick ups on the market in comparison to these
Good traction control test! Once the magic button DL is pressed the playing fields are even except in this case the Raptor has front EDL which the Lux doesn’t have. Fit recent Tyres and a 50ml lift and the Lux becomes unstoppable.
Sidesteps will be torn off by afternoon.
Of course its easy to pass the offload tests. Even a suzuki jimny can easily traverse those obstacles. But the Raptor's test of durability against time and is yet to be known against the invisible Hiluxes.
For an invisible truck, it isn’t hard to spot ;)
@Gary97204 lol no
Nice! What running boards Ranger Raptor has?
They are both insanely amazing utes
Adjustments should be traction control off and rear locker on
I’ve heard a lot of people that have bought one of these have had problems with the gearboxes??
I thinks that's only the auto ones. I've got a manual and it's fine
diff lock guys? and use the mud and snow mode, tsk2x
WOW just wow! My dream car....... how i wish someday i could have one of those.. when i was a kid i was deeply inlove with pick up trucks. Ford raptor is a beast! But then after seeing hilux ohh man.. twin brotha of raptor beast! Gift me pleaseeee lol
lenovo garen Mate you dream low these cars are bricks if you want a real 4bie get a GQ
Its a ford ranger raptor not a ford raptor
That hilux did much better but it seemed the ford stade a bit more on the center of gravity
Can you guys test the X class 350d?
Are there any more test grounds besides like sand and high speed desert or big red climb or is this only a articulation wheel slip test?
This seems a little bit biased. In my opinion Hilux was driven with more momentum. Also if the rear locker is used ranger keeps tc upfront while the Hilux doesn't. Why not use the lockers if the hill obviously called for it? Anyways I enjoyed the video. Overall good job!
Yes they seemed to always have more momentum with the hilux vs going slower and even stopping in the ranger.
Be good if you could get the NTrek Warrior and test that alongside these two vehicles then compare all three against BT50, Triton, and Amarok. The point being whether paying the extra dollars is worth it or are you better off buying a standard model and upgrading it.
Walk in the park for the hilux
It's like a tractor. Also it will break if you jump it hard.
@D_No with dpf?
Why Rock mode not Baja mode 🤔
Need the same tires to tell about the grip with each system. The hilux will slip easier while the ranger with bigger tires are grabbing harder makes it bounce more.
this review is based on stock from a dealer. probably the most honest and well performed review of the two.
The hilux is obviously a more reliable and all around better 4WD than the ford raptor.
Hilux wins even though it was running on shitty small highway tires
Some people commenting why ranger have no rear diff lock and not fair cos there is load in the back. Load in the back tray gives a truck more traction. And ranger have bigger off-road tyres. And ranger have diff lock. Both cars diff was switched off. In other words. Ranger is an over priced truck Wich requires alot of maintenance In the long run.
By the looks of it Hilux and GTR are shared the same thing "it's like walking in the park"
in both trucks was the rear differential lock activated?
On the way down both were not activated. But coming back up the track they both had the rear diff lock on
@@Unsealedu should turned off the traction control for the Raptor and rear diff on
Im surprised and happy to see people over seas love their Hilux as much as we love our Tacomas even when the competition has some nice flashy toys🤙🏽
You ding dongs, the traction control is turned off in rock mode...... SMH
What a camera for the record this video?
the Hi-lux is the best quality is above the rest we have 2 and will be buying a third one
But diesel have a turbo how do you maintain it?
Les deux models sont en boîte automatique ?
yes
I own hilux revo and I could'nt pick better😎
Lol
Am not an expert . Which is the best?
so.. simplicity much better than complex hi-tech.
I would like to point out that he went far slower in the Ranger than the Hilux. Both great trucks.
He afraid that the ford might break. After all, American cars are garbage.
@@JattAnmoli at the toyota is a garbage taxi
@@JattAnmoli haters be like
Can you guys test the New RAptor please! without activating lockers to see traction control at work in rock mode ;)
Now, you clearly couldn't blame the tires for this. The Toyota Hilux did better despite having disadvantages of those stock h/t tires and lack of advanced off road tech like the Ford's terrain selection system etc.
But it was dry so more rubber on the trail wouldn't hurt it. Actually might be an advantage. Trust me my LR3 on street tires is better on dry climbs than my locked f150 with mud tires.
A little unfair, Raptor's tires more big and flat than Hilux.
F Henry hilux seemed more capable imo, raptors suspension was made in thought of Suspension that’s Baja capable, meaning faster response time and smoother suspension at speeds not necessarily slow articulation, where as hilux suspension is made for Australian tradies, so boggy worksites, weekenders etc.
Meaning hilux, good for basically anything
Raptor good for corrugated roads etc but just as capable off-road if you’ve got the money to spend on modifications
I’m not biased at all, in fact I like raptors more but hiluxs are capable rigs from factory and always have been
@@thatsgangsta2450 Not when it gets harder. Put the lockers in both vehicles and the Raptor (and the standard Ranger) maintain their traction control. Very different story.
F Henry...if the tires are more "Big and Flat" it will have better traction so it's actually more capable. The Hilux had standard factory tires. So the ford should be more capable but it's not LMAO
Yea they shouldn't have used the stock tires on the hillux if you buy one you should put on offload tires immediately if you are going off road
Hahaha i got hilux rugged x and even i know you guys are biased asf. And raptor clearly in wrong mode and psi seem higher than the hilux! Hahaha, its okay but you should also tell the viewers with the true cons on the hilux, all good though i still enjoyed vid. Thumbs down for the untold truth though
So which do you think is better
@@sharms888 both, except when it comes to turning hilux is the bad vehicle when it comes to turning
roman luck Yeah I’m almost 100% certain that the raptor didn’t have traction control on.
@@ian_lambert-knight Yes, traction control is disabled when in "Rock Mode"
I don’t have a Hilux, as iv got a 200.
But all I can say is iv been more then impressed then being in my mates.
Iv been in my brothers mate Raptor and I was very disappointed. I just don’t think there is any comparison sorry Ford fan not trying to be disrespectful. 👍🏽
Both cars did good, but toyota is just built for that kind of obstacle. The ranger raptor will excell in dirt racing though.
Ems until the 10speed shits itself
Why don’t they modify these. And take the to hard 4wd tracks and not the highway
What is even more impressive is the cost- considering 1 Thai Baht is worth zip in AUD these vehicles are real money spinners (pun intended) as you can't lock the cost differential! Both Toyota and Ford followed by Mazda and Nissan make exorbitant profit more like a car and a half per vehicle sold.
If you do your research the new hilux’s are having heaps of trouble mechanically. I’m in regional WA a Toyota dominated place and people are jumping ship left right and centre to many problems.
I’ve owned a sr5 2015 for 8 months my family have been Toyota people and I also worked for Toyota workshop for 3 years (quit in 2015). My hilux has been in the workshop 4-5 times for the same issue DPF, first they cleaned it, second they installed a burn switch, 3rd, 4th, clean and 5th DPF replacement mine wasn’t the only one. On top of that it had really bad fuel consumption I sit on 10.5l/100 and I do 80% highway also tail shaft has no nipple to re-grease so it kept making a thud at every stop got that replaced too. So I traded the car in.
SubaBuu emission requirements have killed reliability and performance.
That is why the 80/100/75 series 4.2TD cruisers and even Pootrols have skyrocketed, people want performance and reliability.
Deezy and I don’t think Toyota has properly fixed this issue as it’s a design flaw, they would probably need to redesign the whole thing that would take a lot of bucks to do... I really don’t understand how they would not come across this issue before production... 🙄
SubaBuu every “Toyota man” I know here in NW WA is jumping off them and getting into Isuzu’s as they have the “Toyota” like reliability and fundamental performance.
Deezy yeah been hearing that the Isuzu has been killing it lately, I don’t know I like my WRX I have now no issues at all, but I do miss having a 4x4. I don’t know I might go for a ranger XLT or just go all out for the Raptor.
Cause with halix you cept your momentum and with the ford you kept stoping and not using any momentum
No momentum because the tyres where spinning.
pittbull Jones *hilux *crept *stopping
@@simmo6035 *were
@@stfuplsok Thank you. You must be bored.
@@simmo6035 are you? You are very welcome!
toyota not yet lifted right?
que no se note que le bajan el aire a las llantas de la ford para que tenga mas agarre
I love hiluX❤️❤️👍👍
Try driving both and then u decide
For exterior&interior i will choose ford.. But aftersales and service i will choose toyota
not a good comparison. Raptor's got a 4x low mode, I can tell because none of the other wheels were spinning, (forgot to do the lock diff) they already have a traction control. the 2nd part is that they probably have it at 4X high and a bunch of weights in the back ( maybe some tow bar). Very bias video..
The ford traction control system is certainly a more reactive over proactive system, that said, it still is an amazing system, much better then other dual cab systems (HiLux aside)
Though in rock mode traction control is off.
The thing with rangers is that, if your loosing traction, keep your foot in it, then it works it out and acts kind of like a front locker
Whats with the clunking suspension of the cummins hilux
David Duthie Cummins?
Where did you get that from?
@@SLADE330 Oh leave him alone , he's in shock !
I was going to ask the same thing about the Raptor haha
ranger raptor is built for offroad speed not like that just flexin it's suspensions. built fpr baja
*its
I’ll chose the hilux any day, it’s $15k cheaper, and if you put the monetary diffrenecw into the hilux it would for sure beat the ford raptor
is this where we're headed? auto trans and "modes"? where's the good old manual with high and low range?
raptor is well overpriced compared to the hilux rugged x !!
The Hilux and the Raptor all cost just about the same. So seriously SFU
but one is garbage.. Ford... raptUre.