I gave Maaco $3000, Here's what I got
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Painting over dents, runs in the paint and overspray are trademarks of MAACO reputation.
Facts!
No it's not if you pay for a 300$ paint job that's what you get of you pay for it done right they will do it right
@hernandezmarkie7382 i paid for the most expensive paint service they had and it was horrible! Runs everywhere, paint all over the rubber window trim, and they didn't even paint the bottoms of the mirrors, and they refused to make it right. Never again.
@@Jackmerius_TacktheretrixThat's when you file a charge back on your card. You have no obligation to pay for work that was done poorly.
@dayjeremy this was way back in 1999 ish. I paid cash if I remember correctly.
If you paid for body work it's unacceptable. I used maaco and did the body work myself before I dropped it off. Very happy with their work
Yeah I think that was my big mistake.. should have worked it first
I've always sprayed my cars, but I know a couple who also flip cars and they do their own body work and have maaco spray it. Their first experience was the only bad one, and they made right, and in the end, and got two repeat customers.
Only look at location specific customer reviews and not national reviews. Especially for body work.
For $3000, didn't pay for "body work." Paid for prep and paint.
Their painters are most of the times really decent.
@tomwesley7884 My buddy just paid $1700 down in League city, TX for them to spray it. He prepped most of it himself though.
Man, take that back! They need to make good.
Yeah it looks like that may need to happen
@@BUILTOFFICIAL I've seen better work at my local community college auto body program. Heck, you only pay for supplies at the community college.
It is a well-known fact that they suck! A quick internet search confirms it. So if you take your car there, you have no right to be angry about the results. Caveat emptor!
@@BUILTOFFICIALis there a problem with the paint?? Did they put the dents in it???
Maaco sucks so why take there? I mean it doesn't make sense.
I’ve had about 5-6 cars painted at maaco over 10 years ago, I’ve learned the hard way, with Maaco, get it in writing and don’t pay until everything is done that you paid for
Slow learner huh? Just playing man. Had to say it though after 5 or 6 cars.
@@johnspartan3405 oh no haha I learned after the first one, point of what I said was GET IT IN WRITING, the 4-5 cars I had painted AFTER the first one turned out great
Maaco will always tell you it’s ready for pickup on a rainy day if they can. ALWAYS. 😂
Put a surfboard on the roof for all those waves
lol..surf board would look sick for real
That would actually look rad bro ... kinda give it the old woody wagon vibes 😅
The only waves he sees in the south-eastern us are accompanied by a warm "Howdy".
@@BUILTOFFICIALand a 5th wheel
Twenty years ago the shop I worked in wouldn’t have touched it for less than 10k.
As far as Maaco goes, if you do all the work, the prep for painting it, to where they just have to squirt it, they can do great work.
I am so glad to see you finish this project and keep this channel going. Having restored more cars, trucks and vans then I can count I have never ever tackled a Range Rover. I did a Rover 350 once and that project almost killed me. The fact you finished that Range Rover is frankly pretty astonishing. You really need to congratulate yourself big time!!! So glad your channel is going to go on!!!!!!
This is actually really encouraging haha This project has destroyed my soul XD
Your content actually inspired me to start doing actual bodywork to my projects. Still not the best (no garage, painting panels in a storage closet cause every time I try to paint it’s windy, etc). Always love to see your videos pop up. I’m hoping in the next few years to be able to find a space of my own to really take on larger projects than rusty quarter panels and dented fenders.
I laughed😂 so hard when you leave and your girl toss them in between the deck opening😂😂
she just laughed at me when I told her not to XD I'm in for it with this kid man
Dunno how they remain in business. The last paint job I saw from them was when a friend had their red Miata repainted. About a month later we were washing it and they just sprayed over the old paint on the car and the red was coming off on our wash mits.
Whatever you do, Don't eat cereal while driving that Rover.
(Dennis knows what I'm talking about)
Amazon sells a self adhesive 11mm chrome strip kit for about $15. That is the correct size to put back on the side strips. Also, you can use polishing compound to take off the oxidized layer of rubber and put a couple heavy coats of any type of dino oil then let the strips sit over night. Wipe off the excess residue and they will look like new. Thats how I restored the ones on my RRC. Now they look like I just took them out of a wrapper. Oh...the headlights are standard 7" Jeep headlights....LED units are dirt cheap and will throw a bunch of light compared the the originals. Make sure you get the H4-H13 adapters with them and it will be plug and play.
I truly dig your videos. I leaned a lot looking for someone to paint my project. I couldn’t afford the prices they wanted so I did it myself. Probably not a good as your maacoo paint job but total cost me almost as much once I bought the sprayer and everything I needed. So I think your price wasn’t horrible but do think they could have done a better job.
That sunroof leaks due to clogged drains. It has two in front and two in back.Use a rigid piece of wire and compressed air to clear them. That should stop most if not all leaks.
I don’t know how much a typical paint job with body work costs, so I don’t know whether body work was included in the $2,900. But I do love that cool deep green.
He said body work was included. It was about about half of the 2900. I'd say that's a decent deal.
Sad to say I worked for maco here in Phoenix Arizona for about 4 hours and walked because they wanted me to use a red scotch pad to prep a vehicle for paint after I used a DA sander on 50%of the vehicle
Take in to consideration that even a cheap paint and all supplies will cost up to and over $1000. 2900 is cheap and you get what you pay for.
I remember taking my first car to Earl Schieb for one of those affordable paint jobs. What they did was spend time with me circling all of the imperfections on the car prior to body work. The body work came out great but their prep work sucked and the paint started to flake on my bumper. They didn't primer the bumper.
MAACO use to have a $99 paint job and a $400 premium paint job in the 90's
A friend of mine suffers from C.P.I.S.; he has a 1972 Mercedes Unimog he's been restoring for 5 years & counting. That Range Rover looks great, you should be very proud!
I've can't seem to find your merch page; I've got a BUILT 'jet-tag' hanging from my rear-view mirror that's been there for a few years & it's faded from the sunlight, so I need a new one!
Maaco is great, if you do your own prep work. I have used them before, but I always do my own body work and make sure the panels are straight before having them paint it.
If you can do all that, then why not do the least hard thing and paint it yourself? $1,000 for a blow up paint booth you can use anytime. If you do all that body work & then there's orange peel, waves & runs id be so upset
@@coldchickenwings9437 Painting is not the least hard thing. Yeah, $1000 for a blow up paint booth, $1000 for a compressor up to the task of running a spray gun for an entire car, $500 for an air dryer and desiccant system, $150 for a decent gun, $2-300 for fans that can pull a good enough draft through air filters in said booth, not to mention to cost of paint, clear coat, catalyzers, and proper storage. There is alot more to painting than just a booth homie. If I had it like that, I would paint my own cars.
@@wickedkustumz well, you seem to know what your talking about. I have most of that because I like to restore old vehicles. Other than the propper storage of paint and fluids all that expense can't be looked at like an every time expense because it's not. A $1,000 compressor, the paint booth, paint gun & other things that will be used for a year/years more projects, more justified. That being said I cant do body work. Ya, sloppy stuff, sure. Not stuff that is seamless. I can paint really well so it seems easy to me. Body work takes real talent.
@@coldchickenwings9437 Well hell, I'll send my cars your way then. I can do body work no problem, I can also paint a driver quality paintjob, I just can't justify the expense yet. Maybe when my children start driving I will take the plunge and invest.
@@wickedkustumz lucky you man, thats an art. I have to have body guy that comes to my house & knocks it out here. I actually paint better than him but he's been doing body work most of his life. I've got too many vehicles to justify taking things to paint shops. I've found its cheaper to hire a guy cash to get it done. Plus no kids, no bills helps collect tools. If you're good at body work, theres $ to be made on the side. Hang out at auto paint stores, thats how i found the guy that does all my stuff.
I’m a long time subscriber. Ever since I paid for premium, about 2 years ago. You tube stopped sending me your videos. This is the first video I watched in a long time. Kinda forgot about you. Hopefully they keep sending me your videos. Was always a fan. Keep up the good work.
Caleb, you had me laughing so hard in this episode with the oscillating tool sound and I too am struggling with C.P.I.S.! Keep going man! Love your follow through on this one!
I’m looking forward to more wide MGB GT content. 😉
I remember about 30 years ago I had a middle school teacher who went to a maaco and taught us all a valuable lesson way back when. ❤
In Australia, you could do this project for around $2400.
You can buy these for $600 each, take all the good parts, build a half-decent one, and then a nice man in a very old, very dented, very dirty tilt tray will drag the husks away when you're done with them.
Keep up the good work, Kaleb! We'll watch anything you do!
Thanks so much! More coming this week
I think you got what you paid for, Marco is what I call a scratch and shoot paint shop and I'm impressed that they took the trim off instead of painting over it. FWIW, I paid $1700.00 to have a fender and hood repaired and painted on a small Honda accord from a small fender bender ctrash.
"I think I paid for that" says a lot
Hey man, Great video! I hope this one takes off! If I was you I would contact Maaco, I think they did so so with laying down the paint besides the runs, but you did pay for body work, it doesn't look like they did much or any at all. They better give you some sort of refund or or make it right for you for the hassle & stress. I hope the best! Keep up the hard work.
I will definitely keep you guys posted on the maaco stuff.. the good news is I do know how to paint so worst case scenario I'll fix the egregious issues
@@BUILTOFFICIAL Thank you!
That location is particularly bad, me and Eric worked next door for awhile until we moved to our new shop.
If you paid for body work, the obvious stuff should have been fixed 100%
Not so much the wavy stuff though.
Shouldn’t have runs in the paint either.
I feel like they could have put in not much more effort and you would have been pretty happy at that price point.
Having said all that if they don’t take care of you, hit up Eric and we’ll cut and buff the runs out and fix that one really obvious dent on the quarter.
If you want to try to PDR it first Bill Gewalt is the MAN, and local, usually will come to you.
I can definitely relate to the “wasnt fun but I’m proud of it” statement lol. But for sure should be proud of it!
great update, cant wait to see the new build
We feel your pain. Working on Landrovers is tough. But looks awesome! 🇬🇧
Damn
I got my entire scion xb painted for 6 hundred bucks at Maaco 3 years ago.
It's still shiny. No orange peel. No issues
Could have been worse you could have taken the home of "I will paint any car any color fot $99.99!" Actually it started at 29.99 here's tge original sales pitch "I'm Earl Scheib, and I'll paint any car, any color for $29.95. No ups, no extras" is a phrase that became nationally recognized in the late 1960s. Earl Scheib was a celebrity who appeared on late-night television programs and was known for his low-priced paint jobs."
also, hate to break it to you. depends on if that's a corporate maaco or a franchise maaco, they are going to fight you tooth and nail for that money if you ask for a refund or to fix the terrible work they've done. I would start the sentence with "So i showcased the car on my youtube channel with 315,000 subscribers"....
Ive had a bunch of paint jobs done by them back in 80s,always satisfied,but you have to make clear what you expect before work is done.then eyeball before paying.most expensive cost for whole car was 400.00 lol long time ago!
I'm thinking that you got a prep and paint,If they did all the body work on all those dents it probably would've been double........As far as sunroof leaking on a Rover,mine had broken and clogged drain tubes for the sunroof.
Maaco is fine as long as you do the body work and prep yourself. Lessons for anyone that goes to maaco or any autobody shop. Don't accept your vehicle if its freshly washed. Its amazing how much water on a car can hide. And before you get the job done take pictures of all the dents and areas you'd like repaired. And have everything written down. Not just with Maaco but any shop.
You saved a RR from the dead. It looks more than fine to me. Good job.
I’ve had Maaco do a few full paint jobs. Based on the price $2900 you’ve said that does not include body work in my experience. Best way to get your moneys worth from maaco is to get the body straight and smooth and then drop it off 😂
yeah I wish I would have learned that before dropping it off XD lesson learned
Id take it back the dents and waves in that thing are terrible. But it does look decent with the trim back on.
yeah I think all in all it looks alright, I was just disappointed in the bodywork (dents mainly)
Do NOT settle for less than a great job. You got ripped off. DEMAND they make it right!
@@BUILTOFFICIAL Should have done all the body work that needed to be done before paint. Those dents on a Maaco paint job even if PDR would probably flake off what they painted. Its too late to cry over spilled milk now. I think it will look not as good as you got right now.
Those guys don't get enough body work experience.
The two other flippers I know who will actually gamble on maaco *_always_* do their own body work. Then gamble on them to spray it.
Some locations are better with the resprays than others. So always check location specific customer reviews.
Showing how bad their body work sucks doesn't shock any car person over the age of 25.
LOL
to anyone who cares to understand the opperation at maaco, the one painter on each site is very limited on the paint supplyed for each job, they want a average of 10/12 cars per 8hr shift, the body guys(atleast 5 per site) cant keep up with the demand in the front office. the painter usually knows and has plenty of experiance but when shoved shit in your face day after day, its just another color. before i started painting i payed maaco to do three cars of mine. i knew the shop and had zero issues with anything. i did my own body work after figuring out there rush system. to pay that price they shoulda sent in a guy over the weekend to dial it in. not all maacos are equivelant
If you paid for bodywork, it's not acceptable. I learned my lesson with MAACO: when they do the estimate, make sure you point out EVERY SINGLE DING AND DENT that you want repaired, and make sure they circle each one on the vehicle itself with their yellow marking crayon AND have written it down on the estimate - "dimple in left rear quarter panel," "dent in right front door," etc etc.
I use Maaco about 10 years ago in Pensacola Florida and they did a Excellent job in my ford truck
In my mind, $3000 is for paint. One would hope a lot of labor was spent in paint prep, prep needs to be done and takes time. "Body work," the cost would go up towards $10,000. MAACO's a paint shop, can't expect great body work from them unless the particular shop happens to have a talented body tech. If your eyeballs are falling on those runs, that's something to bicker about and should be fixed for no cost.
I would DEFINITELY take it back
seems to be everyone's sentiment
The build looks great!
thanks man!
That paint is on par with the dad jokes I inundate you with at GRIP.
Holt the dad jokes are way higher quality
@@BUILTOFFICIAL nah, they have just wore you down and you are use to them.
i live in switzerland and i paid 2300 chf (2611 dollars) for repairing and painting both sides(the corner from the rear fender and sideskirt) and the front fender. its done very nice. the apprentice did the bodywork so i saved a bit there, but it turned out perfect.
if you paid for bodywork and it was included in the price its bad in terms of the dents... but the wavey things are ok for that price in my opinion. its a lot of work and for 3000 i would not even start to sand anything at all for someone else....
Always loved the look of a range classic.
I and friends of mine have recently been getting quotes for body work and full repaint on project vehicles. Depending on how nice you want your rig to look the quotes have been $8,000.00 to $15,000.00. $3,000.00 and 5yr warranty is not a bad deal. Your Land Rover looks good to me.
Elevator, Elevator you got the shaft!
For 3k I would not expect the glass removed for painting, but I would expect the dents to be fixed. Runs should have been wet sanded and polished at minimum.
I bet less than 5 hours prep was done.
Just laughing watching your daughter throw those trim pics under your trailer!!🤣🤣🤣
Mako has always done a decent job as long as you find the ones that do a good job they're usually independently owned franchise style and I always find who is going to do the bodywork on my car usually it's a grunt I always talk to him and flipping at least a 20 or a 50 extra in cash to do a little better job than he normally would and I can get a $600 job look like a $1,500 one pay the lowest guy on the totem pole because he's the one that does most the prep work and the lowest amount of money it does the biggest amount of improvement because he is the least paid
thats a good tip actually. I think this will be my only maaco trip, I'll just stick to painting my own stuff.. that way its my fault when it gets messed up
Had a similar issue at the Maaco in Tempe where I had a Jeep that had lots of little paint chips and I paid extra to get them all fixed and it was like they did absolutely nothing. Guy was a jerk about it too and only redid half of the Jeep (the front half).
You can get the ole Sailor Fred Roller paint job. Sailor Fred is a guy I knew who used to paint cars on his front lawn with a roller. Or Earl Schieb comes to mind.
I've always heard to do your own body work beforehand if going with a maco job
If I ever have to use them again I definitely will
lol. that scene is my alarm clock
CPIS😅😅😅😂😂😂 Love it! I'm getting better at it and TH-cam helps me complete things.
This used to be the $150 special in the early 90s
It was better when it was "1 day auto" before Maaco bought them. I had Maaco do one of my cars , i got the same as you with the top paint job and good UV protection andddd the UV protection is just not good. Dont care if its in your garage but it tore through it. I wet sanded the car myself ( i used to own detail shop yearssss ago) since they half a$$ it leaving anywhere from a 1/2 to 1 inch around all body lines and edges. The same location when it was 1 day paint and auto actually did a better job, i asked for extra coats of paint and to this day, the UV coat is still solid. I wet sanded that car and it was like glass. Everyone thought it was a $5k paint job or more. $2900 dollars and they didn't do body work , take it back. Also, the paint always looks thin. It doesn't look thick.. I would take it back. If you paid for the dents and bodywork and they didn't do it and its on your order / receipt, take it back.
There’s even paint runs, definitely need to go back and fix it
Not being in you country, it's a little hard to know what the average paint and bodywork job costs from other panelbeaters as to value for money side of things. Through TH-cam channels though, I have gotten the picture that Maaco is sort of a hit-and-miss result kind of place - sometimes it works well, other times not so much, so I get that its not a high-end, bespoke shop that you'd send a priceless Lamborghini to. In saying that, there is a rule in any western country that if you have PAID for something, you should get it.....and given that the rather expensive two-stage paintwork was less than half the cost of the final bill, something doesn't add up.
The rippling effect can be caused by two things (usually) - a) overheating of the panel by sanding too heavily in one area or b) bad technique when skimming the bodyfiller and / or primer layers during prep. In an industry that has learned and changed much in the last 40 years and now has a lot of options during prep to hide places containing heavier amounts of filler - and where guide coats are routinely used to show up high and low spots in the prep - that crap level of finish is no longer acceptable. Similarly, the high and low spots (ie: dents from external or internal sources) in the panel work SHOULD have been taken care of as part of the "bodywork" component of the labour cost. In every job, a prior walkaround and agreement on what is taken care of is usually done if there are any questions about what the bodywork labour component will cover. The runs in the paintwork (and I'll put money on the fact there will be more) are again unacceptable as a "finished and ready for the customer" result. Yes the customer may be able to tidy them up if they know how, but it would be MY expectation as a paying client that they do not exist to begin with.
In a recent repair from a panelbeater for my wife's car after being in a minor shunt from behind, the bodywork and prep was good but it was like they had painted it next to the bloke sandblasting the next job. There was so much crap sitting in the paint - and being a silver car, it looked like we had reversed at speed into a huge swarm of mosquitoes. I told them I was not accepting it and it had to be redone. What came back was so perfect that - as well as thanking them personally and acknowledging how great it looked - I gave them a rave review on their social media and website pages, although I did mention that they didn't get it right first time.
If you do not complain, you do not get an opportunity for a change in the result you've been given and the company does not get a chance to right the wrong or put steps in place to stop it happening again (if they care at all about repeat business, customer service and their name / reputation in general). If you complain and they basically tell you to shove it where the sun don't shine, well, social media is a pretty good platform for getting the word out, isn't it? Or...at least you know where not to take a vehicle next time if you want it to look good and get what you pay for.
The lesson I think is to convey or manage expectation and always make sure you know what work will be done for the money you will be handing over BEFORE they start the job by walking around the car and either noting or marking areas to be addressed. If you did this, then you have grounds to go back and demand either a full refund or that they correct the work - whichever suits best. Also if you did not ask them to remove the side mouldings, then they should NOT have removed the side mouldings and any damage cause by said removal is on THEIR time and dime to repair, not yours.
In saying all that, I think the vehicle looks great from a distance, will be awesome inside once completed and was worth the paint job to make it look better.
Looks like something a golden God would drive
did it get you good tape lines?
Bro you should have asked the especific body repair you wanted, went with a paper with the problematic spots to be repaired.
yeah I definitely should have
an excellent finisher car for a golden god
I was looking for this comment 😂.
Looks okay, maaco is cheek city brother
Do people understand how much money it costs to do a real paint job? A good one is three times that price he paid. He got exactly what he paid for.
U picked it after they drive it through the woods and hit every tree lol
WOW and they didnt use double side take to reinstall the moldings!
That thing has more runs than a baseball game
For a paint shop even though it’s Macco that looks terrible bossy not even done clear coat drips that’s bs that could easily taken down with a razor blade and buffed out idk how thick the clear coat is but it could easily be wet sanded as well and cut buffed and polished with swirl remover.
Run Forest, run.
I could have done spa bad ass paint job for five hundred you got took my man
Idk I brought a few cars in there to get them painted and what I’ve learned Atleast for the stores here is the reason they get such a bad reputation is because they do cheap paint single stage jobs when a lot of people won’t. Then people get upset that their cheap paint dosnt last. It’s like paying a tire store to put on dry rot tires. But if you spend more like I have they do great work. But that’s the store where I live. Every stores different with different people and different standards.
The first response is right. I would take it back to macco and dispute the finish. The paint and the body repair is good but could've been better for: $3000.00, their is always a few collision places that could do outstanding work for the same price as macco. It's just a matter of finding those gems that believe in their work. These are the same places that break down on paper whatever they'll charge you for. I'm thankful for your video (thumbs down only because macco use to be better) the way they painted your vehicle it may encourage rust sooner than before your paint job. Hopefully they did the prep work properly before the paint job. Hope for the best for you and Land Rover.
Was that with filler etc and flatting as these aren’t the straightest from factory the ding though is a bit shit
Jees - thats a lot for that outcome.
I will get the rattle can out for that.
Looks good !
The paint is good from far, but far from good! You do great work, please do it again, maybe an international Scout!
Looks like you made a big discovery!
With 3000 dollars/euros paint job in my country you get top top notch quality xD (Portugal)
Yeah paint jobs here are insanely expensive
Welcome to America Frances
Great job!
thanks man!
Sounds like they charged you by all the drips in that paint job, Lots of drips!!!
Always a good day when you upload 😎
gonna be a good one tomorrow too!
She's having fun
Damn i had a car painted by maaco back in 2012. I paid $2k for their top of the line paint with some body work. It turned out great except i opted to paint the door jams. They didn't mask off the door jam stickers very well so theres a ton of overspray on them. Oh well. Now in 2024 the car looks 80% as good as it did when it was first painted. But its been garaged for most of that time.
i have had 6 cars painted by maaco,only one bad job and that was just overspray,i had my buick gn painted there and was satisfied with the job,it also depends on the maaco location
I had a car repainted by Earl Schibe once, looked great except for they painted over a litte mud on the rear quarter panels but otherwise well worth the $200.
Honestly, I kinda like the battle scars and would leave them but they charged too much IMO.
I wish I could send you a picture so you can see what 10 years later looks like
Earl shiez(shieb) will paint any car for 99.95. Lol
what kind of paint is he using lol the ppg i use is 300 by itself XD
@@BUILTOFFICIAL Probably an ounce of testers for models and then water to make up the difference
You can't expect a range rover of that age to look perfect and it just looks like a love tap on the side of the car so I wouldn't worry about it.
Did you pay for wet sanding, compound and polish? That will remove the waves.
Holy crap. You can see the runs in the paint in a separation of metallics. I would take it back and have them respray it let them know you're a TH-camr and that you will post another video of how they treated you
Good job on old girl!!😊
Yes take it back it is bad dude
I may have to