Can You Fix a $1600 MAACO Paint Job? (Extremely Satisfying)
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- A few weeks ago we got our $1500 Eclipse painted at MAACO for only $1600. It turned out decent, but had a lot of imperfections like orange peel, pitting, and fisheyes. Today, we attempt to fix those issues by wet sanding and buffing the entire car. Does it work? Can you fix a cheap MAACO paint job? #maaco #paintcorrection #satisfying
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It's awesome they let you film and showed you how to do some of the work
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I was quoted $1500 for a similar job for my Miata, so about the price of the maaco job
@@joshhalterman5701 damn, im really undercharging, ive been charging $1000-$1200 for full car re-sprays and polishing... i guess that's what i get for not advertising and getting my client base and demand up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@calebb5106 Man you either need to rethink your prices or reevaluate your skill level in painting cars xD
@@Cynsham my base price is cost of materials + $15 per hour, with all receipts saved and handed to the customer and hours tracked online
Gotta say, it's been great seeing all your progress over the years. Always been a fan of detailing so I'm very happy to see this episode
Right I remember when it was just the Miata
Honestly, I think it turned out really well. Maaco is fine as long as you do one thing: moderate your expectations. You're not getting a $20k paint job for $2k. You're getting a $2k paint job for $2k. I had my 93 Firebird Formula painted by Maaco last summer and people wouldn't know it was a Maaco job because I took the extra time to remove stuff when I dropped it off. I pulled up and started stripping the car. I pulled all of the exterior lights (tail lights, side marker lights, everything), pulled the exterior weatherstripping and metal tracks that the weatherstripping fits into (so no hard line at the edge), removed the door handles and fixed up some coat hangers so they could pull them and open the doors, pulled off the plastic cowl and wiper arms, pulled the windshield surround molding (the windshield had a crack anyways and was replaced after the paint job), put on some junk wheels and tires, pulled the inner plastic fender wells, removed the antenna base and back masked the hole, removed the side mirrors (and pulled the glass from the housing), removed the trim that the side mirrors bolted on to. Tons of small stuff like that. Took the trim home with me, scuffed it all up and painted them either gloss or satin black and when the car came back from paint I wetsanded it and put all the new trim back on. Looks like a much higher quality paint job, but I did more of the work myself and took it upon myself to fix the deficiencies that Maaco is known for (orange peel, hard paint lines, etc). If you moderate your expectations on what Maaco will do for cheap and put forward the extra effort, you can wind up with a good driver quality paint job.
Hey man fellow f body firebird owner, I got a question? would u recommend on paying for a thumb size dent removal on the rear fender panel an extra $500 or $200??? The reason why I'm asking is because I'm going to get my trans am painted this week and I'd like some advice from a fellow firebird owner.
P.s thanks
@@htown0288 Depending on the type of dent, it would probably be worth it to let them handle it. I had a few dents / dings in my passenger side rear quarter panel and was able to massage most of them out and skim / sand it myself and then hit it with some primer. I would ask them upfront how they propose to fix the dent and have them spell the repair out in writing. That way they don't do something stupid and stuff it full of body filler and paint over it without actually trying to fix it correctly. Not saying they would, but you never know. Some people are shady!
What “stage” did you go with?
@@itsjussjerry I went with the base coat / clear coat package. I kept the factory color so the door jambs and engine bay wouldn't have to be touched and I could keep the cost down a bit.
I 100% agree
The survivor look is always a good look in my book. I would hate to have something perfect for fear of messing it up.
Very well put 👏👏
I’ve had bad luck with perfect rare cars. One of my cars got hit 3 times in 1 year. I have many stories
Wow so shiny! It really is satisfying to see it all come together. One of these days I need to learn how to do body work and detailing and fix up my F150. It probably has just about as much rust than your Previa had lol.
detailing won't fix rust ;)
@@StanleyKubick1 bodywork will though.
Don’t say the forbidden Previa name
@@StanleyKubick1 No but every time I hit it with a hammer some of the rust falls out. In theory it should be rust free at some point right? :P But yeah I'd need to do serious body work to it.
Dude it’s a PIA but the finish product is usually worth it
As a professional painter and DSM owner, that paint job hurts my soul.
My question is 1600 for the paint job + what would what was just done to the cars paint = what ? Is it really cheaper to get a macco paint job or would it actually been cheaper to go to a better paint shop ?
now this is the real question, id hope it would be cheaper if you're just looking for a good enough/well done vs a professional paintjob
Yeah I think you're right. The small amount of time the Maaco saved by cutting some corners turned into a huge time investment to fix those issues. It would have saved a lot of effort in total if they had just taken an extra hour to do things more correctly. But there is also a third factor involved that we don't know the effect of, which is what was the state of the car going into Maaco? I've heard that if you do the prep work yourself and bring it to them just for finishing and paint then they do a great job. If you spend the hours needed for sanding and taping off glass and lights carefully and bring it to them ready to put paint on then they don't have much to fix so they can just do a good job putting on paint. It's the prep work they skimp out on when you just bring them a car totally unprepared for paint. At the same time though you can definitely see that Maaco made some mistakes during the actual painting process too and it wasn't totally a case of just skimping out on prep. They vary in quality by location too, I think the Maaco on Hoovie's garage does a great job.
So a full body wet sand, compound and then polishing would run about $2,000 starting for a vehicle. So then after the $1600 paint job plus $2,000 minimum for the wet sanding and al that done in this video you’re looking at $3,600 minimum. So it may be better to pay more for a better quality paint job.
Unless you have the time, skills and experience to do the wet sanding and all of the other work. But that’s a multi day process.
@@El_Chompo Also, I watched another video and if you do the prep work yourself and take it to Macao it voids their warranty….. so another reason I wouldn’t use them because you have to let them do crappy prep to have a warranty that they probably have a lot of loop holes to begin with, so it may be worth doing the prep work yourself anyways.
@@deporterdetailing Yeah it seems like a losing battle either way at least at the particular Maaco from this video, or maybe the workers just had a bad day. Because if you figure even if he had done all the prep work himself saving Maaco hours of tedious sanding and masking, there was still solvent pop in the paint. Actually I'm not sure now if that is from the prep process or not. Does that mean there was solvent left over from the cleaning and degreasing processes before the paint was laid down? And the fact that some paint was textured and other wasn't. There are just too many questions with ugly answers. Either they didn't sand the car flat to begin with or their painting process itself was flawed by having a bad mix or timing or application thickness. I would say do your research and if you can find a good Maaco like from Hoovies garage then go for it. It's a lot of work no matter what you do at the end of the day you can't get around it. Competent jobs cost a ton of money and doing it yourself takes a ton of time, maaco you are rolling the dice and understanding it won't be perfect but hey that's still way better than old faded chipped paint (normally, depending on the car and style preferences of course. Like old chipped paint on a classic muscle car is kind of cool but on a more modern car it just kind of looks bad).
That’s got to be a $3k detail job.
To be fair you can’t really blame Maaco you payed 1600 dollars you get what you payed for if you would of gone somewhere else probably would of been better but more expensive
Maaco still does high end jobs you just gotta pay. His car still looked good for $1600
@@karlclements7642 they have higher priced jobs that look better but the cheaper you
Choose the quality gets worse but still good for the price 🤷
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Good god man! That Maaco has one shitty painter. That painter should be fired! They sprayed dry. That's why it looked textured. At least they hit it with enough clear to to wet sand, buff, & polish.
Night and day. Looks great. Wonder if the total cost of the MAACO + wet sand is less or more than just paying for a better paint job up front
This.
It depends. As with any paint work, surface prep is going to be the key and if MAACO did any worse at this on this particular red, the cost of correcting it vs spending $5000-$6000 and having 2-3% defects that are unremovable (instead of 20-30% here) might make you think about shelling out the extra $1500 - $2000. I personally would not have touched this car for less than $1200 (with a ceramic coating application also).
Personally I'd pay more to save time and labor on my end.
@@jritechnology he paid 1600 for this crap? its a 300 dollar paint job.
I love the series, but still think it looks like a celica.
Should we try to convince him to replace it with a Celica jk jk
I promise it's not
@@thiswasakwardbob4370 unless? 😳
@@fizzisoda7113 I mean why not am I right
A celica is round
A DSM is straight lines
With an extra couple grand in detailing, you turned your $1600 paint job into an OEM job. Well done guys.
Nice work! Glad to see you were down to dabble in some detail work. Really think detailers are under appreciated. Been doing the work for 15 years myself and can say that a detail can totally transform a car. Props.
It's looking so good now, can't wait to see what wheels you put on it
Heck yeah!
Some 5 spokes would look gooood
@@VonD00M900 no. Spinners.
Its really interesting to see this. I had my Renault Clio mk1 painted in that same red and it cost me 600€ in a garage that I usually go to. The paint has a better look before it got detailed. I'm waiting for the paint to cure 100% to do so. Great results!!! Gotta love red cars (and I used to hate red cars except for Ferrari 😅)
To be fair, MAACO paints by candle light so its difficult to see the imperfections.
Looks so odd without the black roof and mirrors. Makes it look a lot closer to a starion/conquest.
Nice work..The Talon/Eclipses look better with a black roof and pillars
Yeah, the red door window frames look weird.
I could make it 10%-15% better with a can of Satin Black and 20 minutes.....get that window trim matching and the overspray on the radiator support and frame blacked out. Maybe those mirror mount panels too....
1,600 paint jog you pay too much my friend macco is a line production line,,,,600 is what you sure pay,,,,with a straight body,,, do they took u to the bank
For the quality maaco delivered for $1600 a diyer could’ve done better with $200 in supplies, same elbow grease and a weekend
ngl im kinda surprised how shitty at $1600 paint job is. i'd be mad with the results even after the wetsand, i mean the 30 yo paint on my mx5 has less imperfections...
"It looks like oem paint"
I'm sorry but no oem paint job looks that good unless it's from like a luxury or high end car company
How I spent $2000 fixing a $1600 paint job.
Why didnt you tell us How Much This Cost? Im thinking another $800-$1000 !
There's a whole bunch of reasons the paint didn't come out correctly? Yeah its maaco. They don't know how to paint. Im sure the people getting paid there started and said they knew what they were doing and had no clue. Learned on every car that looks like shit. Once they got good they rolled out to a shop that's going to pay them what they're worth. Then the cycle continues.
That's another $1000 detailing job on top of the macco paint.
At least. More in South Florida I think.
So with the amount that a none sponsored person would pay to wet sand, polish and paint protect the paint after the macco paint job would it have been cheaper to just pay macco more to do a more premium job to start off with?
Cheers Pat
I think this was a premium job no? When I got my car painted the premium job was the one with the clear coat
A service like this would cost $1500-$2000, so if he had paid out of pocket for it he would be nearly $4,000 into this "$1600 paint job". Then you still have fisheyes, overspray everywhere, and dents and dings throughout the car, which were supposed to be fixed by Maaco. Should have gone to a reputable shop and paid more money upfront to have it done right.
Yup. The professional color sanding defeated the purpose of going the budet paint job route.
This is just what all good paint shops would do for a car. Maaco is like spirit airlines in that you get flown somewhere, but every additional service or amenity will cost you extra.
Looks pretty dang good now!
Oh I am absolutely stoked to see how this turns out! I love getting to your videos early
Yesss! Gorgeous work, what a fantastic bit of paint correction!
I can't wait to see what wheels and tyres you get for this old girl, I had a Peugeot 405 wagon with 14" TSW alloys on it, and they weighed a freaking tonne. I chucked a steel spare on the front and the steering got 200% lighter lol
My only critique is you tend to complain a lot in your videos. Nobody wants to hear you complain 🙈
Omg dude. This car is looking epic. You've gotten this car looking amazing. Thank you for bringing this old DSM back to looking better than new. :)
Please man. Pull the bumper off and paint the front crash structure black, so it can't be seen through the nose of the car.
Maaco has to be a front for some huge drug cartel because not a single store anywhere has done even a remotely decent paintjob ever.
Man that car and especially the dash is giving me flashbacks LOL I'm 40 when I was 20 I had a 94 Plymouth Laser.. the laser eagle talon and eclipse we're all pretty much the same car
So how much did the detailing cost? Another 1600.00 lol.
Curious what a professional would charge to fix that paint to this level
Thanks bro I needed this. I painted my car a month ago and it's time for me to wet sand and buff it.
this should be labeled “unfucking a paint job”
The car looks about as close to perfect as anyone could achieve, but I’m curious. After the sanding/buffing/detailing, was this process still less expensive than a professional paint job? By how much (percentage-wise)?
I bet he got a deal for advertising the place
good point...but this way lends for more/better content.
@@nigelmcclean4166 very true lol
You can very easily spend a Saturday and do this yourself, maybe 200-230 bucks in materials and tools if you buy a polisher. just did this on my Miata for all in maybe 1000 because I did the bondo work and took all the lights, mirrors etc off when I dropped it off at Maaco. Cut and buffed it over 1 full Saturday and it’s 90% of the paint job any other place would do. I just painted the door jams myself
with a harbor frieght paint gun, d/a sander and buffer plus some ebay paint and clear you can do all of this for under 500 bucks the whole thing paint and polish
You are definitely my favorite car youtuber. May not be a millionaire with 25 built cars and a shop with 17 lifts, but you are incredibly smart and talented! Awesome video
Adam lz lol
So most of the failures during paint is mostly gone, but the flaws that do remain are mostly lack of prep work and body work? Just curious
Yes. And no, if they really mess up the paint technique.
looks great but alot of shrinkage. hopefully it doesn't continue to shrink.
I work for shine supply! Love to the products at work!
2 helpful hints.they make a thin flexible rubber block that works great on curved surfaces.also if you use a little dish soap with your water,the sandpaper slides easier.still,you are doing a good job.
My 84 mustang gt got a $500 maaco paint job back in 01 (previous owner). There was orange peel but not to your extent. With a 2 hour wash, buff, and wax, it came out as good as that.
You should have complained and asked for them to respray.. that’s totally unacceptable for a paint job. They literally sprayed over a wax and greased surface. After a cut and buff the finish should be be 9-10 from 1-10.. after cutting and buff it’s a 4 or 5. For 1600 it could have been much better that wouldn’t even need a a deep cut
The cost of wet sanding, and detailing, was probably as much or more than MACO charged for the paint job! By the time you pay for both the MACO and detail...you could almost have a first class paint job!
True. Easily 1000 in sanding, polishing, and detailing!
Damn that made such a big difference. Absolutely loved the process 🔥💯
Watching a professional detailer work is always really cool. Great video
I can't wait to see it in person! My homie did an awesome job❤
Same bro thats my brother yano
yeaaaa shine supply. thats my local shop!!
Most of that looks like little air bubbles in the paint. If Maaco would have slowed down and not apply so much paint so fast along with using less hardener/activator you wouldn't have any of that (you'd just have typical factory style orange peel). Judging by how most of that is coming out, it suggests it's just the top layer which means they waited to long between coats too. . . . . AMATEURS! TOTAL AMATEURS! For $1600 I was expecting much more.
To South Carolina? What part? I live over here. Cool hearing people just say it since there isn’t much over here. Just a bunch of dumb squatting trucks.🤣
Car looks great, paint came out amazing bud. Keep up the great work. I’ve been inspiring me to start a channel and uploading. My buddy wants to do the same and we’ve got enough little projects going to maybe get someone’s attention.
A great detailer can save your a$$ all day long. Those guys don’t get enough love. I have much respect. A detailer made my 2016 Tundra look like a new truck. All for under $300. Heck of a deal!
what's the name of the song at 12:59?
Big difference
Whoever sprayed that clear coat should be embarrassed. That's really really bad for having a professional booth (assuming Macco has a nice booth) ... Tons of dirt and contamination...not to mention the ungodly amount of texture.
Nice work though, looks great 🤙
Awesome video, just out of curiosity to see which is more of a bargain, how much did you pay to get it detailed? Did I miss the total?
I'm in a similar situation with one of my cars and I have a great detailer but no good shops to repaint the car. I was debating doing this exact same route, however my detailer charges about $1500-2000.
1600 for paint job, 500 to sand and buff; better to use that 2100 and get an Eclipse in better condition. Also, Maaco uses the least expensive paint base and clear coat...paint not going to last. clear will fade and/or peel in no time. That paint job looks like rattle can done in a garage.
dayum dude! making me want to go to this extent on my Z. poor bastard hasnt had a wash in a year haha
wow! that's pretty bad paint job. Looks like it was sprayed outdoors.
I send at least car a month or so to macco and use there $1000 paint job for my used cars, I do some of my own minor prep, but the end result comes out 10 times better right from the paint booth with no need to wet sand and polish than what you ended up with after all the wet sand and polish work,bottom line is the original paint and prep you started with was junk because the macco' shop you dealt with their paint and prep process sucked. It's not the cheap paint job you paid for it was the low quality work of that macco shop
As a maaco employee, I have to give you props. We've really butchered some cars in that shop lol. Patience goes a long way with wet sanding and polishing.
I got my maaco paint jobs for under $400 and had very few imperfections. Fish eye here or there but the one here sprays pretty well if you actually let them know your somewhat particular. I did all my own prep and they just had to mask off windows and spray.
$1600 seems pretty hit's pretty high for something that looks like it was is this painted with a shaker can. I thought a company like That would have some type of guarantee
A lot of people don’t even know what a bad paint job looks like or can’t see it’s not as glossy as it could be
MAACO can be good. 1. Shop around, there are usually a few MAACO shops in your area. Go to all of them, look at cars in process, and finished cars. Im in SoCal. Costa Mesa MAACO bid over $3000 just to strip down old paint and body work... before he would even make a estimate on the paint. I went to MAACO of Orange and got the whole thing done, 2 stage paint, color sand and buff for $2800. I complained to MAACO Corporate and the just said every shop is independently owned, nothing they would do about it. So.. SHOP AROUND... SECOND... if you are handy at all with tools, or get help from a friend, remove as much trim items that you can. Headlight bezels, grills, side trim, once at the shop, remove the tail lights, maybe even bumpers, if they are chrome. You will get a much better job.
I dread to ask.... how much did it cost to fix the $1600 MAACO paint job? Its definitely a kick in the shorts to have to spend even more money to fix something that was supposed to be great to begin with....
hey caleb at 9:41 you can hear the sandpaper "zipping" when that happens its time to either clean the paper or replace it
-sincerly
Race car, sports car, and supercar body&paint guy
Looks great. All tho usually when the buff and polish after wet sanding. Usually it's a 2step process. 1st buff with wool pad then use a 2nd polishing compound. But it looks like every one does it different. It turned out good.
I wonder why he is sanding by hand. A DA would would much faster. And is totally safe on a low speed setting
$1600 MAACO paint job + $2500 worth of correction and ceramic = the cost of a regular good paint job not from MAACO.
Can’t believe you wet sanded the entire car by hand. Wow!
It's kind of creepy that no one has noticed... I know the sky has a decent amount of followers but he's really not that popular... Yet he's single-handedly cornered the TH-cam car market on what 99% of people are going to do and to be practical with at the same time.... This is literally the cheapest bang for buck stuff going on... He's not repainting a Bugatti or doing something that requires tons of money out work but he's getting almost just as good of an outcome as what the rich people do... Like this guy has figured it out He solved the problem I feel like we've reached the end of car detailing/presentation abilities... He's restored a car to about as good as possible with some elbow grease and less than 5 grand
Can you fix a $1600 Maaco paint job? Spend more money, time and labor. You do not need to spend 15 minutes watching this to know the answer.
Question: How much did it the paint correction cost?
I would like to know too, 2 days 2 men 20 hrs total? $2400?
Remember when they would paint cars like this for $100? Was just 10 years ago… inflation be crazy
Why would someone choose a 1600$ MAACO paintjob in the first place? That price alone is a red flag.
That is every bit as big a difference as from when you got the paint job done in the first place. It loos so much better.
And the dings? Who cares, that's what happens when you drive a car man. You build them to drive them, not to put them away.
How much does it cost to paint a car at Earl Scheib?
Not too many Southern California residents in the 1960s and 1970s went without viewing a Scheib television commercial or hearing the slogan: “Hi, my name is Earl Scheib and I will paint any car for $29.95.”
So how much was actually spent on this car between MMACO and detailer? Considering a top-quality body shop would probably charge $$$7-10K, this video offers an intriguing alternative.
I wouldn’t have paid MAACO the full $1,600.00 if they presented me my car with all those flaws. They were lazy and sloppy. Lousy prep and application is obvious. I would’ve asked the shops owner if he would be proud to say “This is what MAACO does.” Furthermore, I’d put the MAACO owner/Mgr on the spot and ask, “do you find this paint job acceptable?”
What's the point of going to Maaco and spending $1600, if you then have to take it to a detailer for what is probably another day...? And how much was that detail job anyway... another $800..?? Why can't Maaco just get it right in the first place.. like any other body shop...??
Looks better but i cant stand that you didnt have the roof painted black. Just looks wrong on a first gen
MAACO should be ashamed of themselves for this type of paint job. $1600 plus whatever amount you paid for the detailing you could have had a really good paint job on that DSM. Just saying.
I’m sorry but I’m a purist and the a and b pillars as well as the roof and the window trim and mirrors NEED to be black.
13:39 I'm getting some serious Dr. Evil Vibes!!! Scott!You're Just Not Evil Enough!!
I've been told by one shop that put a video on youtube that they always always completely spray their paint area with water and keep the entire floor wet. They're so serious about it that they have assistants constantly dripping small cups of water around the floor. Why? It attracts and traps the dust and keeps it to an absolute minimum. Of course, they do have installed air filters in the spray area that can suck up incredibly tiny particles of dust. This is so expensive that it's only used by a real paint shop, not amateurs like Maaco. But this is one way they get their paint jobs looking so smooth and glassy. Of course, the other vital step is compound polishing every square inch of the car. That's why you'll wind up with a bill for $5,000! And I've seen a video of a Porsche being repainted and they billed the owner $15k!! To their credit, you absolutely cannot tell that the car was repainted even with the camera inches from the surface.
So your $1,600 paint job cost $2,600? A detail like that has to cost at least $800-$1,000. Maaco does offer a color sand and polish service for about $800 extra.
The take away is that 1600.00 dollars is way too much to pay for a Maaco paint job. Can you fix a 1600.00 dollar paint job from Maaco, yes, if your standards for the definition of "fix" are appropriately low.
So it was $1600 for the paint job, but how much is for the sanding and buffing, im guessing around $600 to 800??? So for a total of $2200 to $2400 is it still worth it???
Let this be a lesson for you mate ... cheap is NEVER a better solution. I wonder when people finaly gonna realise that a MAACO paintjobs might be cheap but you will NEVER end there if you want it to look good.. you should have gone to a bodyshop and spend the money and work in one go instead of cheaping out mate ... dont do cutting corners cuz you know, just like everyone else, those corners will come around and bite you in the ass... love how it turned out tho, great job!
I'm unsure of the cost he would charge a normal customer for the same job but let's say 1000 dollars, that's 1000 added to the 1600 so 2600 together, how much for a quality basic red paint job at a paint shop ? Alot of time invested but you probably saved some cash in the long run ...
I found a guy that did rust repair correctly,and minor dent repair with paint.
The job was done in a tiny one car garage that the mini van barley fit in.
The job was so good it didn't need cutting.really.
Maco want 3200-4000.
awesome transformation man!! but the thing that i loved the most is the music.. just perfect!
Have your like sir! and cheers from Argentina!
If you sand and buff the clear coat too thin, it is going to break down in the sun. What makes you think Macco would put enough clear on to allow for this procedure. Also, you might be putting a lot of work into a finish that is going to eventually peel off anyway due to Macco's poor surface prep. These problems may never occur but it's something to keep in mind.