How Much Power Does The 2019 Honda Super Cub C125 ABS Make?
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- How much horsepower and torque does the 2019 Honda Super Cub C125 ABS make on the Cycle World Dyno? Hear the sound of the 2019 Honda Super Cub C125 ABS.
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Anyone with half a brain knows Honda are more than capable of dragging more power from the engine if they wanted to. The reason they don’t is to ensure great reliability and MPG, the very things that made the Cub the best selling bike of all time. Some people just don’t ‘get it’ at all 😩
Yamaha is even more Reliable and more powerful
@@SuperiorNo1 Bollox
@@blackbird69xxx How's it Bollocks iv Had 4 Yamaha there are Superior at Engine Tuning they even make Musical instruments for christ sakes 😈
@@SuperiorNo1 yeah and honda makes jet engines, motorbikes, mopeds, F1 engines, lawn mowers etc. Just because Yamaha makes instruments doesn't mean that they make superior engines....
@@Wilma5532 Yamaha make Electric Bike motors and Batteries Where's Honda? 😈
So much hate? Rode sub 3 sec 0-60 bikes for many years. Cured me of ever wanting $100K+ cars. This is super affordable transportation. Get over yourselves.
I ride Supra X 125 FI (it got similar engine to this) for daily ride and it is comfortable and i enjoyed the mileage. I got 55-60km/liter or 130-140 mpg if i not wrong. I only refill the tank within 8-9 days. Yeah i know the power isnt the best part, some bikes faster than this but still i can make count for the mileage. I like it
Thanks for the video . 8 hp is more than enough too cruise around town
Hell nah, that thing needs a turbo
Come on people. It's not a performance machine. It was built for commuting in tight asian cities. I had one while living in asia. In the city I only put about 15 miles per day on it so the fuel capacity was no problem. The super thing about it was the endurance; I got mine used with 29,000 miles. I sold it with 42,000 and only did basic maintenance. Super cheap reliable transportation.
The cub was literally built for US markets...
@@whiteninjazx6r i don think so because there are many moped in south east asian country like RAcoming say its cheap,reliable especially in rural area
@@sayfolman7752 I don't care if you "think so" or not. Honda stated years ago that the Cub and SuperCub were made for US Markets...and that's where they sold the best.
@@sayfolman7752 At least it has style, right?
@@whiteninjazx6r i'm from southeast asia and yes, this bike is rare bc it's expensive compared to other underbone motorcycle. The older one however, is more common but still kinda rare.
I'm amazed Mr. Dyno managed to hold on.
funny cause i used to think i needed a big engine then I remembered that I live in a town where the speed limit is 35mph to 40mph on all roads. so a 125cc or a 150cc will be just fine.
I love watching the sport bike guys get to second gear only to have to down shift back to one every block lol are they really enjoying the ride on these roads? if you are in Tucson, AZ you will understand. not really a sportbike kinda town. you would be lucky to hit 3rd gear lol
What if you want to leave town? On the highway, these suck.
I had the C90's as a kid, ragging and thrashing them around the woods! They just did not break! I've just bought a Supercub and cannot wait for it's delivery! I use a Piaggio Liberty for commuting (Cheap to run) and I love it, but it's 18 years old and showing signs of struggling up hill's! I think the Supercub will be slower but this will last and last, in fact it is probably the last commuter I buy! My other Scooter is a Vespa 300GTS, which is a totally different ball game and my weekend toy!
That's 8.12 hp at the rear wheel. Accounting for some drive train loss it's probably putting out close to 10 hp at the crank. More than enough.
2020 Honda Super Cub C125 ABS Dyno Test
I have this same bike. Completely stock with almost 900 miles on it so I'd say it's pretty well broken in. Been seeing between 99 and 127 mpg driving normal running premium unleaded. Speeds pretty consistently 55-60mph occasionally 62-63mph. I'm only 160 lbs though. Someone bigger may not see the same mileage or speeds. On a really windy day I have had a hard time staying above 50 mph though. Other than that stupid center stand and the tiny little 1 gallon fuel tank and zero cargo area... I love this bike. Perfect little bike to get to and from work and beat around town on. I had to build a rack and add a little box on mine to carry my lunch box and hard hat for work.
Emission control killed it; the Thai made Honda Wave and Honda Future 125cc are much peppier.
@@tdgdbs1 Yup I live in SE Asian and I can confirm, it's normal to see Honda's Wave 125s on the road blasting past 60mph easily without full tuck 😂
I got 55-60km/l or 130-140mpg with Supra X 125 FI (it got similar engine). I like it👍
Luggage rack: The trail model has an excellent rack. Honda seems loathe to sell that rack separately, though it will mount on the street model. I hoped that a third party vendor would make one, but have been unable to find one selling within or to the U.S. i bought Honda’s itty bitty rack, and affixed a circular charcoal grate to it. (“Would you like fries with that?”). And, I hung saddle bags off of the grate. Looks “unique”, and works great (grate?).
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Get a small windshield
The chain guard is admired by owners.
Yes, it makes the chain a sprockets last so much longer
It produces more power than I do. The question is, at 6'-5" and 300# how many dumb looks will I get riding to the beach with a long board strapped on the side? 10 beach trips to the gallon instead of one or two, or one mountain stream fishing trip per gallon rather than burning a 1/4 tank in my truck. After seeing the video of a guy driving one off a multi story roof, only to start the motor at the bottom... I'm about willing to pull the trigger on the purchase of one of these. If not for me, for a smaller person in my family.
The thing is with weight + wind resistance the real world figure if 62-65 seems to be enough for around town and dual carriageways in the UK so ideal as a shopper with the old crate on the back.
The new supercubs will still be running in 30 plus years time as are their predecessors. One would take you around the world without breaking.
Lets see a bbk and some tuning. Isn't it basically a grom engine? I'd love to be able to hit 55.
Now turbo it with a leaf blower and see what you can make 😁
Or one of those electric supercharger. Those are useless on a car, but I bet they would add a few hp to a small engine like this.
@@awdrifter3394 kid, they are amazing on a car and can add 80hp without the need of a large intercooler the problem is you don't have a tesla battery to supply it power.
These pull huge trailers in south east Asia and they almost never have a problem . Ive see one pulling lumber.
How many miles were on the engine? Wondering if it was broke in yet?
70mph on a bike like this... Incredible
With wind resistance maximum is mlre like 60-65. Still great though. I love mine
@@ryanwatson911 that would be scary
If you know how to tune and do engine modification event small motorcycle like this can be a monster like in thailand and malaysia
@@leonardlitanius7517 it’s not actually. I had one before I passed my test. It handled remarkably well. I hit 70mph many times on a slight decline with no wind. Engine screaming but never complaining. I have a 2012 Triumph Street triple which costs a fortune to run fuel & maintenance wise & also now the novelty of power is waining I fancy another Cub again. Bags more fun.
The bike fought the dyno and the bike won. Whoo hoo 👍👍
Theres more potential on it. But. To get some kinda long term use out of it they detune little budget motors like crazy. A suzuki 250 enduro motor. Whatever it does from the factory. U get some work on it. Head cam exhaust. Big difference. But it will always tear up sooner. The supercub in stock form will run for a while if u leave it alone. Mess with it...who knows.
Honda has really kept the super in Super Cub.
My 82 Yamaha RX50 Midnight Special made 9.5hp, I was hoping for more from this.
Every dyno is different, you'd have to do them back to back to get a real comparison.
Also that’s a 2 stroke
2 Stroke and you need tested in this dyno to compare.
The poor dyno guy must have drawn the short straw.
The Honda Grom with the same engine makes 10hp, but that's with a manual gearbox. So it's probably the auto trans sapping some power.
How? Once the clutch reaches it's lockup rpm, there should be no power loss.
You're right. The quoted 10hp for the Grom is not actually at the wheel. So a Grom would actually get the same power reading as the Super Cub on this dyno.
We ran the 2013 Grom on the Dyno - th-cam.com/video/DRDueDafFuo/w-d-xo.html
The cub has a manual clutch, you use your foot instead of your left hand. I own a 2020 SC i know!!!
@@michaelj.kastner5165 all bikes you use your foot. The super cub has no clutch so it’s pretty much automaric
Thats really cute :D
Is that clutch weak enough??
Too weak. I need to change stiffer spring clutch and it do better
Enough to last 50000 miles? yes.
It needs a little more ooomph. Give it the rs 150r engine and you're set.
75 mph? the 1964 cub I learned on did maybe 50
Nope does like 62mph or so.
NAHBRUVITAINTCOOL
Old ones barely cracked 35
It doesn't have the added drag of the atmosphere.
Why so much concern about power of 90-125 cc motorcycles and DIY attempts to increase performance? Why not start out with larger displacement more versatile bikes that can keep up with traffic easily and safely?
Mr fish makes his seem more like 20bhp!
MPH DAFUQ.
BE METRIC
@William Harvey you are stupid
Awesome dyno figures don't reveal the true story of this bike's reason for being. As any canny Scot will tell ye - it's frugal, convenient urban transport. It's miles per gallon/kilometres per litre we're interested in!
And it makes plenty of power for its size and intended purpose..These 125 dirt bike guys need to get off their high horses.
@@techmaven5900 Yeah, they're completely missing the point. That super cub will probably do 50,000 miles no problem. A 125 highly tuned dirt bike engine would be scrap long before that.
Yeah and you'll pull like damn near 100 mpg probably
@@drumanaut Honda say 150mpg (us gallon).
Notice that at 1:17 of the video the blue line (torque) flattens out at about 5100 rpm and then drops below the red line (horsepower). This is a very mildly tuned engine that doesn't trade low and midrange torque for top end power.
Also, the horsepower shown here was at the wheel, not at the engine. The power had to go through the transmission, the chain, and the axle bearings. Shaft horsepower at the engine is higher.
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I'm not sure what to think here.....7 hp? I thought sure it'd have more...
Agreed! Was expecting twice that
@@jonc1901 HOW? It's listed as 11.5 HP at the crank Which is comparable to every other 125 cc motor from any manufacturer that is allowed in the United States. It is what it is. It's a very reasonable price for this kind of quality, which has more than enough horsepower for city use but if you start trying to justify $3600 for something with this little horsepower you will drive yourself crazy.
@@jonc1901 WTF honda says 10bhp max u on crack ?
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So slow that the dyno video is 33% longer than normal haha
I heard on FB that can bore the engine out to 750cc.
It's pretty much just a Grom.
Fix that hud, it's not even readable for those with 20/20
That's 50% of what a 125 made in the late 70's, Emissions and regulations have killed motorcycles, time for Electric.....
A 70's 125 would've also likely been a 2T. Not a fair comparison...
@@Winthrop787 It is. Because engine building technology is far more advanced these days. It would be no problem to build a 125 with 20+ HP. But impossible to pass emissions with an engine like that. (high compression, lambda 0.85, open air filter, low resistance exhaust etc.)
A fair few 4 stroke 125's made 17hp, a 2 stroke would obviously not be a fair comparison @@Winthrop787
Agreed, throttled by emissions, time for electric ....@@Chris-yy7qc
The government will suck the fun out of electric bikes too.
8 hp... Even for a 125 that's pathetic. That's like getting 38 hp out of a 600 engine.
It's in a mild state of tune for a commuter bike..status quo power for the intended purpose. All of you power mongers need to get a clue.
My 1670cc Warrior would make 106hp in this same state of tune..Mine makes 77.
I own a c125 and have been tooling around town on it, in the 0-30mph range it's very peppy and able to keep up with traffic just fine if not pull away, above 30mph it's sluggish, feels like you need a runway to reach 50mph. For City driving it's great but if I had to do even 50mph roads all the time I would take literally anything else. Maybe people will up-bore their bikes and we'll see what that does.
@@drencrum add an Intake, exhaust, tb cam, and reflash the stock ecu from dh motoring. Pickups up a couple of hp well worth the $.
I guess most of you guys, particularly from the US market, don't know what I'm talking about. But I guess there's still people reading this. That are old enough to remember the latest generations of two stroke 125cc. Just prior to the emissions "implosion". (Cagiva, Gilera, Aprilia...)
Yeah! You could enter a dealer and ride out a 125 topping at the magical 29/30hp number! On an absolutely road legal and OEM "pocket rocket" that hit >170km/h without breaking a sweat.
Yes they were showcases of technology, cost an arm and a leg. Had a maintenance schedule similar to a competition client bike and an stratospheric fuel consumption. Reliability was an unknown word and durability sometimes was measured in months or single digit years. But damn they were fun. ;-)
Now the curious detail, their short live was along the Honda's CG's & Cub's 125 with their 10/11hp. Guess who are still around . ;-)
With this said anyone remember the scooter Peugeot 125 Turbo? ;-)
Also its a scooter. What more do u expect from it. ? Get a motorcycle then. Stop complaining.
Its a motorcycle, not a scooter
Underbone.
Now I know why Honda doesn't publish the HP and Torque. That's pathetic.
Only on US i think. In Asia we got all spec published by them.
The 'NOT SO' supercub
What's the point of this video? No one cares about dyno'ng a Honda Cub. I mean, these are all about fuel efficiency and reliability, not raw horsepower and torque. Smh..
So why u here then lol, wtf
You want more power buy it and bring it to south east asian country like thailand and malaysia we make it more powerful because we have long history with moped motorcycle from japan