Undertale - Death By Glamour / Battle Against A True Hero | Reacting To Video Game Music!
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"That sounds exactly like Touhou!"
Toby Fox: " :) "
these two are seemingly best buds anyway, what would I give to have a beer with ZUN..
*"🐶"
"Smorgasbord is something Undertale would say" This sentence is literally true
it literally is, tho I remember it from Deltarune specifically, same franchise tho
technically deltarune, it's from the chess area in chapter 1 i believe when all 3 enemies are different it says "smorgasboard"
@@nileprimewastaken also chapter 2, is says "smorgasbord 2", same conditions too
@@mariotheundyingXD I love that
Toby is very much inspired by Zun and in August of 2023 it was announced that they are working together making "U.N. Owen Was Hero?" which is a mash up of "Battle Against A True Hero" and "U.N Owen Was Her?"
It’s already been released
@foggy8298 "In August of 2023, it was *Announced* that they are working together".
@@hazelbagels024 "Are" implies that they're still working lol
It's actually out and it's amazing!
i love how he recognised the touhou trumpet at 10:56
How could you not???
@@JessesAuditorium the ZUNpets
"Can you detect everything that's happening". A very fitting description for this battle.
My favorite comments are these vague quotes I say lol.
Very "wait til he.." vibes
2:12 "You can groove and can really dance at the same time"
10:11 "It's a lot man, it's a lot"
Jesse continues to show off his uncanny ability to sum up the context of the song without actually knowing the context.
Not only is Toby heavily inspired by Zun, but he and Zun collaborated to make a remix of this very song
Also: the "Chrono Trigger piano" you hear is literally the Chrono Trigger piano, like the exact same soundfont and everything. He uses it multiple times throughout the OST, as well as many other SNES soundfonts, especially from Earthbound.
04:40 What you are thinking about is Undertale Yellow. For clarification, Undertale Yellow is not DLC, it is a fangame (a very popular one at that).
Set around the time of the 6th child. (e.g. the one before Frisk dropped down)
The sunglasses during Death by Glamour killed me
Toby was indeed inspired by Touhou and Battle against a true Hero is his most Touhou-esque song he did for the game. It's funny, cause ZUN himself said it was his favorite from the Undertale soundtrack and recently they collaborated together and made a mashup of Battle Against a True hero with Un.Owen was her?, the most famous Touhou track.
I know you've got a lot on your plate, but Undertale is one of those games where the music is made all the more powerful by the context. it's already incredible music, but with the game context on top of it? magnificent. and a full playthrough is under six hours for most people, if you were to give it a go on stream, it and Deltarune are justifiably lauded by millions of people.
just go in with like, one friend/mod/whoever who you can ask for help rather than chat because chat will ABSOLUTELY pull you in a dozen different directions and One Guy you to frustration or try to railroad you into a specific ending.
Hopefully this year, I'm tempted by the length of the game.
genuinely though, undertale is a terrible stream game. People will backseat INCREDIBLY hard and will also spoil things by criticizing people for playing the game "incorrectly." Literally best idea is to play it alone and not read any comments before finishing it lmao
@@hachikuji_mayoi I'm pretty sure Jesse doesn't look at the chat while playing.
It is genuinely recommended to at least listen to the broadest advice of "try not to kill anyone" which the game itself also happens to try to tell you early on
@@themustardman219wow immediate backseating when he hasn't even started playing the game, I would recommend to delete this
I totally get what you are saying by "he has his influences and then goes in his own direction" toby displays his passions and then goes "and were going this way now good luck" but it's that spontaneous, recognizable, "bold" as you described it that makes the undertale community live and die by its soundtrack.
I love the contrast in the 2 OST’s you chose to react to this time. In the game Death by Glamour is probably one of the most fun and cool battles, where Battle against a true hero is one of the most intense and serious moments of the story. So much nostalgia in a 15 minute span
You said you weren't sure what kind of game Undertale is... It's a turn-based RPG, but the enemy turns are bullet hell segments to avoid attacks and the player's turns are more about choosing the right action to progress based on context and a list of text options provided. The world itself is full of puzzles to solve.
Death by Glamour: this is what they mean when they say a song f*cks
I love it when Jesse gets distracted mid-sentence by a song transition.
Battle Against A True Hero might be my favorite track, both because of the context in which it plays, but also how powerful and meaningful it sounds as a song.
Toby is, in fact, inspired by Touhou and Zun, Battle Against a True Hero is his main Touhou reference song in Untertale. Those Zunpets are unmistakable XD.
Also, Zun and Toby have actually done a collab! They did a remix for a rhythm game that combined two of their songs, and Battle Against a True Hero was one of those songs (U.N Owen was Her was the other one).
Also, you should play Undertale, it's good :).
Oooh, that's super cool! Thanks for the info! ^^
And I agree, Undertale is awesome! ^^
The “Yellow” you mentioned is actually an Undertale fangame called Undertale Yellow. It’s meant to be a “what if” prequel set before the events of Undertale
So glad you covered Battle Against A True Hero, my favorite song from Undertale! And since you asked, Toby Fox's songs always seem so short because, as you probably noticed, their official OST versions do not loop. This is unlike the seeming industry standard of OST versions of songs looping twice and then fading out on the top of the third loop, though naturally there are many exceptions to this.
You are completely correct that Toby Fox wears his musical influences on his sleeve, and is able to blend these seamlessly in the most wonderful melting pot. One way Toby uses his myriad influences is straight up utilization of their soundfonts; like in this song where you heard the ZUNpets. Using all these soundfonts gives the Undertale OST a feel that it is a true love letter to the soundtracks Toby grew up with.
The soundfonts the Undertale soundtrack utilizes includes:
- The NES's sound chip (this is particularly done in an effort to emulate Chip Tanaka's Earthbound Beginnings/Mother 1 OST)
- The Genesis/Mega Drive's sound chip
- The Earthbound/Mother series soundfonts (too many examples to list here, but most come from Earthbound and Mother 3)
- Chrono Trigger's soundfont (you picked up on the piano in particular in Battle Against A True Hero)
- Secret of Mana's soundfont (the percussion is particularly notable)
- Mario Paint's sound effects (the game is full of jokey Dog songs all made from the Dog sound effect from Mario Paint in particular)
- Touhou soundfont (ZUNpets and tubular bells)
- Star Fox SNES and 64 soundfont (the "doo" voice effects in the Temmie Village theme from 64, the SNES games sounds are used for a song included in the files but not in the game)
- Mega Man X, X2, and X3 soundfonts (particularly their brass, string, percussion, and guitar sounds)
- Final Fantasy VI soundfont (one moment particular is an extremely elaborate reference to a sequence in FFVI, complete with its soundfont)
- The Amen Break (not a soundfont per se but its inclusion is notable)
- Glover 64 soundfont (its choir apparently)
- The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap soundfont (specifically its panflute)
- Super Mario World soundfont (used only a song on the Playstation 4 and Vita releases)
This might be one of my favorite comments I've ever read on TH-cam, due to how thorough and interesting the assorted references are! That's so ridiculously cool!
@@liamm113 What a kind thing to say, thank you so very much!
@@AREAlhero my pleasure! This stuff is so cool to learn about to me, and so huge kudos from me to you for posting all of that info!
To answer some questions, Toby Fox did make some songs for Pokemon Scarlet and Violet (and one from Sword and Shield). Notably, the Area Zero theme & Area Zero Battle theme, Toby did the original compositions for those and Go Ichinose then arranged it. I mention those specifically, cuz those are still in queue! So you'll hear them someday, hehe. Youve also already did the reaction to the Area Zero Lab Battle theme, which Toby also did on his own.
As for Undertale Yellow, that is a fangame, not a DLC. However, the script of the game was read through by Toby and given the green light. So while it isnt technically canon... it is at least compliant? Probably? Its also pretty faithful for a fangame!
As for gameplay, Undertale is an RPG of sorts where the goal is to talk your way out of fighting instead of killing (although that /is/ always an option...). Main gameplay mechanic is dodging the enemies attacks while you figure out how to make them happy, so its similar to a bullet hell in a way. Perhaps the Touhou comparisons are apt!
Especially since, only about a month ago, Toby Fox teamed up with Zun to make a mashup of Battle Against a True Hero and UN Owen Was Her called UN Owen was Hero?, which is a very cool idea!
I always loved Battle Against a True Hero, as even without context you can tell the situation it plays in sounds way more "desperate" and "Final Fight" essence to it. I especially love the instrument change to the trumpet near the end, then during the second half of the ending sequence it doubles up the trumpet notes to make it even more grandiose. Love it, whole OST is Goated
God damn, not even 5 seconds in and he figured out one of the 2 inspirations for battle against a True hero. Like you said, it has mitsuda elements with the chrono trigger piano and the mitsuda lick and zunpets
That's the ear of a musician for u
YOOO UNDERTALE *AND* HOLLOW KNIGHT AROUND THE SAME DAY?! And I'm so early for this one, too! XD
Thanks a ton for the reactions, Jesse, and for requesting them, requesters! ^^
13:18 You can actually take that statement and generalize it into most of Toby's works, not just his music. He's basically frankensteining fanworks, the man is a fan and consumer of so much media that he has nigh infinite stuff to pick inspirations from (he even steals from himself since this man is practically married and in a healthy relationship with his own leit motifs) and somehow still leaves his own mark on the final product. Half time the man does or makes something it feels equally as much a showcase of his raw creativeness, as it is a love letter to the stuff he likes. That's why I find it fitting that the guy also has one of the most passionate fanbases who do the same with his work, the content creator reflects the content consumers, it's like his fanwork creativity and passion is contagious to anyone who consumes his media or smth.
One Undertale track that I think is really interesting musically is called "Amalgam." It's one of those songs where I have no idea what genre it could possibly be. Worth checking out.
Here we are is also cool because its in 5/4, but yeah hopefully Jesse reacts to Amalgam or maybe even Another Medium eventually (if he doesn't just up and decide to play the game lol)
Death By Glamour is my favorite track from Undertale because of all the different places it goes and layers added onto it 1 by 1. It reminds me of The Extreme, my favorite FF track lol
Have you seen the FF14 remaster of "The Extreme"? Its cool
@@dafire9634 yep, it's great! Still love the original better personally
Undetale Yellow is a fangame that took 7 years to make, i very much recommend you check out the ost, specially "A Mother's Love" "Remedy" And "AFTERLIFE + specimen tracks" (they're the final boss themes for the different routes)
Undertale being an enigma to Jesse is amazing. I hope he hears the whole soundtrack before ever seeing footage
Love both of these! Battle against is my favorite of the two (just did a cover actually!), but man does Death by Glamour SLAP!
Picking out all the old school composers is very accurate as a lot of his inspiration comes from old rpgs. The game itself looks like it would be from the Earthbound series (which fun fact Megalovania was composed for a fan made Earthbound project)
So if you ever see connections youre probably right
9:19 The obviousness of some influences was very intentional. One of Undertale’s core themes is nostalgia and its many different positive or negative aspects.
one thing i love abt undertale/deltarune is the musical motifs. you cant play the games without wading through motifs up to your eyeballs its SO COOL especially when discovering a callback that i hadnt noticed before
I love how I just found Death by Glamour myself recently and have been hooked to it for days now. Just yesterday I checked if you had it on your channel and was slightly disappointed you didn't react to it. And now here you are, one day later, posting this.🙂
Suprised you haven't done these already. Love your content!
Jesse keeps getting better and better at this! You love to see it!
The songs are short because they’re supposed to be played on loop in game, which is why the end of a song typically flows into the beginning really well
yeah, hearing the undertale ost evokes the memory of what we think the old games we played sounded like
and that is bc he is inspired by classics but he also captures what we think they sounded like when we think
I'm pretty sure the piano sample in True Hero is literally just the sample from Chrono Trigger. And the Touhou sound is completely intended too! Undertale is definitely a mixture of a number of pretty specific influences that it wears on its sleeve, but all at once it's something entirely unique and of itself.
If it is from Chrono Trigger, it is heavily rearranged. Maybe it's using the CT instrument set.
Toby Fox is some kind of mad genius for sure. Making whole games as a platform for his composing, and somehow doing an amazing job on both parts.
Toby's wild song construction has a lot to do with his love of motifs. The way Undertale is constructed is essentially like this: you go into an area. You are introduced to The Guy (gender neutral) for that area. The Guy will proceed to follow you around finding various ways to pester you while you proceed, learning about the world and The Guy in the process. During this process, Toby will introduce several different musical motifs in wildly different contexts. And then, at the end of the area, you finally face off against The Guy, at which point all the motifs associated with them and their areas come together Voltron-style to form their boss theme, which is what Death By Glamour is. If you ever play Undertale, I'd love to see you try and identify all the pieces of DBG as they come up in game.
I'm pretty sure Toby has said that for almost all his songs, he just slapped them together and called it a day.
The funny thing about undertale imo is how you could technically miss some of the most popular tracks in the game completely. The game railroads you into 1 ending the first time you play, so if you leave it at that thinking "what a nice lil package" you actually miss out on a couple of the iconic songs lol. Megalovania (the song you couldn't remember the name of) and Battle against a true hero are two cases of songs a player may never naturally hear in game. Heck some players who go for multiple endings may never hear those two because of what you need to do to trigger the scenarios.
These are unironically 2 of my favorite songs in the ost
Read the Hashtags first and got excited for more omega strikers… still fun to see undertale
No clue if you’ve already gotten this request, but Your Best Nightmare + Finale is my favorite song for people to react to. One of my favorite Undertale songs, and well worth it.
Have a nice day!
Just wanna point out:
"It feels like every song is alive. Like if they were a character on their own."
Every song you've heard, and most songs in the Undertale OST are character themes for when you encounter or fight them.
Death by Glamour belongs to a pop-Idol who dance-fights you.
If you carelessly kill everyone you meet you will hear Battle Against a True Hero...
Doesn't belong to you, the player. That's all I'll say about that.
It's one of the most depressing songs.
The song you're thinking about in the beginning is Megalovania which plays when facing Sans
you say this sounds like chrono trigger, and that makes sense since toby fox actually sampled the chrono trigger soundfont for some of this game's music. not sure if battle against a true hero is one of them, might be. but either way it is a very logical conslusion.
the song you're thinking of is opposing bloodlines, aka richter's theme, there is a slow version as Castlevania 64's title screen music
if you ever beat the game, we would really love to hear a review/emotions/thoughts of yours! The entire soundtrack is a jam and even if you don't like the game (which I doubt), you will have a great time!
I do like how you mention Mitsuda for Battle when the Mitsuda lick is in that song
The fact the you described Undertale OST as a character in its own right is quite accurate in fact. The game is great. But the music makes every great moment an amazing one. You need a fun fight, against a dancing and extravagant robot? Death by Glamour. You need an epic and intense, yet tragic, fight where you are the bad guy? Battle Against a True Hero. The music perfectly mirrors characters and moments from the game, that is why each of them feels like a character in its own right. Great video!
2:36 this is true and you actually listened to one of his songs which was the Zero Lab Battle theme from Scarlet & Violet.
The context of the true hero song makes this song feel so bittersweet to me. Constantly shifting between sadness and hope. Undertale and Deltarune are such great games
Undertale OST really reminds me of Chrono Trigger OST in which the songs are really short and the richness of the soundtrack comes from how often the song change in game. The music is absolutely a character in the game and the sounds used (Sega Genesis vibe, Chrono Trigger vibe, ZUN vibe) is apart of the story telling!
I hope you play sometime :D.
An interesting thing I noticed is that around the time Toby was about to release Undertale to the world, he was playing a game called Ghost Trick. A capcom game, by the team who made Ace Attorney.
He mentioned Ghost Trick a few times as a game that people should play. It's mostly just a point and click game, but it's got good characters and a short and sweet story.
I bring it up because the song "Four Minutes Before Death - Variant" sounds fairly similar to Battle Against a True Hero. So that might be another inspiration people haven't pointed out much yet.
The songs are distinct, but I am fairly convinced that there was some inspiration there.
One of the best boss battle songs ever made, probably.
No one gonna mention the8bitdrummer as the most recent subscriber?
Gifted sub :p
This video fills me with DETERMINATION!
Oh damn it's bunnytails :O
i love battl against a true hero, my favorite undertale song
That Castlevania song you wanted is.. Divine Bloodlines i believe!
I never realized it till now but Battle Against a True Hero does remind me a bit in some spots like Love-Colored Master Spark from Touhou.
undertale is amazing, mind blowing how well he did with this little game considering
LOOK AT THOSE RATINGS!!!!!!
Undertale is a somewhat subversive, meta, puzzle JRPG with bullet hell battle mechanics... Or something like that ^_^; In some ways it's quite straight forward and basic... In other ways it does numerous interesting things... The soundtrack itself is one example of this... One thing you might miss by listening to only two or three tracks and not the whole soundtrack at once, is that the soundtrack uses a bunch of Leitmotifs or whatever... You will hear a bunch of the melodies multiple times, in different forms and possibly mixed with others on certain tracks... I would recommend experiencing them in context and maybe listening to the whole soundtrack together afterwards even, noting where themes are used or whatever.
If you do decide to play the game (which I think you would potentially enjoy a lot), I would highly recommend trying to play the first playthrough without any outside contact at all... No input from anyone else... People like to push for a certain play style, even more so than people might for other game, but I'd argue that it's best to play however you like for your first try...
... After that I recommend getting guidance to find any cool stuff you may have missed though... Depending on how you played for the first time, this may be possible without starting a new game... But if you do need to start over, there are ways to speed through, so no need to worry about it taking a long time either way.
If you really want a proper challenge and are really feeling the game after that, it might be worth playing one more time, in a specific way, to get different content... But that'd be to decide later ^_^;;
I really hope you play Undertale one day, that way you can understand why these songs are so good. Like fighting an undying knight or a full tilt diva of a drag queen.
UGH!! I love Death by Glamor so much!
Favorite boss theme.
I’ll mention that most boss songs in undertale, which both of these are, are mash-ups of various area themes from the game, which is part of the reason why these songs feel like a “smorgasbord”
Death by glamour contains the hotel theme, core theme, regular mettaton theme, and I believe a few others, while true hero has waterfall and spear of Justice
There are a bunch of really popular videos which are just a big mashup of all of the leitmotifs in undertale andhow you can string them together
Edit: also, Toby fox takes a lot of inspiration from ZUN, as every comment so far has mentioned, and has produced a mash-up single with ZUN of battle with a true hero and UN Owen Was Her?
Also, Undertale Yellow isn’t DLC, it’s a fanmade non-canon prequel. Toby Fox just loves promoting fan works. The closest thing to an expansion of undertale is Deltarune, which is made by Toby fox and is vaguely a spin-off sequel, even though it’s already longer than undertale despite only having 2 out of 7 chapters complete and it being completely free currently
Some absolute banger requests lately! If you ever get through most of this OST, the Japan orchestral performance is phenomenal. And the game is an easy recommend to play, because it has a short run time but packs a lot into that time. Totally not biased or anything
i love how he thinks yellow is a DLC so nobody directly tell him
This is such a banger🕺
Omg my fave games back to back! My crops are watered and my skin is clear
Also, i'm sure someone has said this already, but these songs are so short because they're designed to loop!
Battle Against a True Hero isn't Undyne's boss theme, it's yours. You are the unkillable demon child who is bent on total universal destruction. The only way you can lose is if you give up.
Death By Glamour honestly sounds like a runway show kind of music to me, and it makes more sense with the part in the game that it accompanies.
I wish Jesse listened to Metal Crusher too. It's another banger track that goes hand in hand with Death By Glamour.
Undertale Yellow is an unofficial fangame prequel, hope you listen to their OST sometime too! They’re bops as well.
The day I see hojo jamming on a funky organ is the day I help sephiroth blow up the planet. That man doesn’t deserve to jam
If he doesn't play Undertale after hearing this, I'd be shocked
Undertale is more of an experience you should go through than a game you must play.
Undertale's an RPG like Earthbound in the overworld, but with only one way to attack, different act options if you don't want to kill things, and enemy attacks are bullet hell style rather than typical RPG style.
David Bowie Bot Boss Battle (Normal / Pacifist) first and then it's the battle against the sushi chef's nightmare (Genocide)
2:30 - Sword and shield, certainly the Battle Tower theme.
Personally I think both of Undyne's themes should always be done together for reactions to Undertale music
"Battle against a true hero sounds a little calmer" Boi if only you knew the context to get this song to play XD
You gotta make a stream reacting to Undertale/Deltarune soundtrack, not only is it great, but also when something like that happens, the whole fandom conglomerates, and the stream gets a tonne of views.
Fun fact: you can guess megalovania at 2-4 first notes, without knowing its megalomania or even its undertale at all.
After watching all of these reactions, I have one thing to say. Undertale OST is more than anything an adventure of leimotifs. Whenever there is a connection between the songs in the context of the story, they almost always share a leimotif. From what I've learned, people always recommend to hear the most popular and liked tracks in the soundtrack, but separating them like that does not feel right to me. What do I think wound be best? To listen the whole album at once! By doing this, you will also notice the changes in the complexity of the melodies throughout the time.
Yes, it would take more than two hours. It's up to you to decide if it's worth it.
4:43 - Undertale Yellow is the fangame you think about, it's very good, rivals original game in quality. And the OST is just phenomenal, you should give it a try if you want to hear some great non-Toby Undertale music
they tend to be quite short or end abruptly since most of the songs in the game are designed to loop 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Toby did indeed do some pokemon music, one of his latest is "Ruinous Quartet" (or something similar to that) from Pokemon Scarlet and Violet
I don't think he did that specific track. He did the leitmotif for the overworld but not the actual track, he did the raid battle, and the Area Zero music
@@BJGvideos His first contribution to pokemon was actually is Sword/Shield, and it's the Battle Tower battle theme.
He also did music for Game Freak's original game, Little Town Hero.
@@Arkouchie Yeah but I'm saying he didn't do the Ruinous Quartet theme
@@BJGvideosYeah, no, I was just sharing other things he did do
"U.N. Owen Was Hero?" is the name of the mashup Zun and Toby Fox did!
Toby sorta brokedown the ZUN style one time on tumblr and made a Touhou-like theme for a made up character called Apple Girlington. Considering some mechanics of Undertale, you would say he's definitely looked at Touhou
Hey Jesse, The best way I can summarize Undertale as a game would probably be that it's a lot like Earthbound, with heavy focus on the storytelling and the exploration and development of the characters in the story. And the battle system is also very similar to that old-school RPG era, except when the enemy makes their attacks, you play a bullet hell and can (potentially) dodge all of it.
Or die instantly if you aren't ready.
The wind howls...
Undertale is an rpg with a turn-based bullet hell battle system where you can choose to be a pacifist or a genocidal maniac. The choices you make heavily affect the story, and the game responds and reacts to the player through the gameplay as well.
It's also not very long, you could finish it in a few days.
He really should look at "What The Internet did To Undertale", he will be so shocked :D
plus - there are many remixes worthy of his attention, like 'Reality Check Through The Skull', a really good remix.
I think he had a song in Pokemon Sword and Shield post game battle tower?
I wonder if anyone has rewuested Toby's improv Touhou music with Apple Girlington
Death By Glamour going full Rainbow Road is my favorite part
Undertale music is so damn good