A Cheap Bambu P1P? - TwoTrees SK1 Review
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Thank you, Finally. You are my people! I don't want to be a 3D printer Hobbyist! I want to be a hobbyist that uses 3D printing. That's why Bambu Labs was such a revelation over my Ender 3v2. Please proudly do reviews for people like us! I'm successfully learning onshape because I'm not messing with my 3D printer.
"That's why Bambu Labs was such a revelation over my Ender 3v2." ... Ouch. What was the price difference between those two?!
I mean ... you probably could have bought that same experience when you originally bought your Ender 3v2 with something like a Prusa Mk3. But you didn't, because the Ender was much, much cheaper!
What I am saying is: it's unrealistic to compare in two totally different price ranges afterwards. When you invest like 3-4 times more than a 250 bucks Ender machine ... you do get more in return, of course.
It always has been that way. Not only with Bambu Lab.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 Creality sold a ton of printers like my 3v2. Prusa sold a bunch of printers. During the 5 years I owned my 3v2, those same companies barely innovated anything. So yes, when I bought my $699 P1S, I was amazed. Out of the box the thing worked, connected to my internet and computer, yielding a customer experience neither one of those companies even approached. You still had to build the dumb Prusa. They touted the build process is getting to know the printer. I don't want to get to know my printer, I want to print! And now I do! Those are companies are playing catch up, Maybe Bambu will fumble their lead, but meanwhile, I'm learning to draw and print things of my own design rather than getting to know my printer!
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I owned the Ender 3 V2 for nearly 5 years. During that time it was unreliable. Constantly needed upgrades to just work. Creality never innovated despite selling a ton of printers. Prusa innovatived a little bit more, but they still make you spend hours assembling your printer, to be at a decent price. They even brag that you'll get to know your printer by assembling it. I didn't want to get to know my printer, So I bought a Bambu 699 P1S, and they actually innovated. The customer experience is amazing, out of the box ready, connects to Wi-Fi and my computer seamlessly, and works so well. It just works! So the other companies have to play catch-up only because they didn't innovate. Bambu is the best thing to happen to Prusa and Creality! And as far as it goes for me, I've learned 3D CAD software since I bought the P1S and I'm printing my own designs nearly every day.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738Because why should dude be able to have his own opinion based on his own experience, when he could just use yours?
Same, looking for a printer based on its use as a tool and as such if my tool is more trouble than it’s worth I’ll look elsewhere
I am a 3d printer hobbyist and have been buying machines for over a decade.
That being said, the printers coming out now are like magic compared to where I started, and I could not be happier. I also just want printers that just work without needing to mess about, and it seems like we are getting closer and closer to that reality, FINALLY.
Totally agree with this comment. I left the FDM printing community a couple of years ago in favor or resin printers, and recently got interested on FDM again. The change compared to back then is massive!
"I also just want printers that just work without needing to mess about, and it seems like we are getting closer and closer" ...
ehm ... we are already there for like years! You could already buy a Prusa Mini or MK2s/ 3 like ages ago. Unbox it, run a well guided setup and just print.
It's no big deal for years! Only the print speeds have been elevated since than thanks to Klipper.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 the printers you listed were not set up and run. They had tons of issues and upkeep required
I've had an OG solidoodle 4 for years, and upgraded it a bit. I'm tempted to get a new printer because these new ones blow it out of the water in features lol. The gap is getting bigger and bigger. The tech has come a long way. My stupid thing literally had plastic that just slid on the rails with no bearings. Made V wheels look amazing. What bugs me is all these new printers feel like money cutting cash grabs. Every printer I look up has so many issues. My printer sucked but with new rods and bearings and a good hot end it seems moe reliable than a lot of the 'new' printers that have more features but seem to fall apart or suck 24/7. But the internet also makes things hard, negativity travels faster. So I have no idea if buytingh a new printer is actually going to be nice or garbage.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738yea, but prusas are like a thousand dollars each, plus mod kits for them and whatnot, extra parts you will inevitably replace and have to adjust, etc etc. People want printers within a certain affordability range to also work without question at least most of the time
That UI is the spitting image of the Creality OS - that is a mangled Klipper installation.
I don't know whose idea was to use a Nextion display (which isn't compatible with any form of klipperscreen) and why they decided to make the motherboard pinout a "company secret".
Im proud of you how you pronounced Lüfter!
There is nothing to complain about!
I would say these wobbles have nothing to do with input shaping but just a bent z-leadscrew. both front rails are more or less fixed to the frame but the back lead screw holds everything without a linear rail. If you look carefully in minute 16:30 you can clearly see how severe this issue is. this leadscrew has to be replaced. the pattern is way too "perfect" to be software related. And the fact, that your first benchy already looked this bad, means that you didn't crash it xD
I agree, that was my thought also 👍
nice catch
Review really needs to re-shot after a chitchat with the manufacturer. In general, I've found that this guys reviews come across as very whiny, especially when there's the least bit of resistance in some way. And yes crashing the machine like that is indeed his fault and he should stop trying to deflect the blame. If the printer does not have features that detect such crashes, then it is his fault and his fault entirely. (Besides, I wouldn't trust the AI features on any printer just yet, it's still early days in that regard and even the Bambu printers seem to fail to recognize spaghetti or other things anyway) He would do well to at least try to deep-dive into this subject and gain some kind of deeper understanding of how the machines work, I know some are not interested in that and want the thing to "just work", but even things that "just work" eventually fail and thats where a deeper understand comes in. I.e. if you have a problem, you can fix it yourself. And this comes into play in just about every other facet of life, lest you want to become that old grandma who needs help with her smartphone or computer all the damn time.
I watched reviews of this printer yesterday, for 5 hours, the display is crap add Klipper screen while they work out the fact that serial-based screens suck. None of the reviews I watched had the printing issues he had, after the first print I'd be on the phone, as you said, that is a mechanical problem. The machine looks solid, has linear rails everywhere, three Z axis independent motors, the CPU controller is running an open-source version of Linux and can be updated and maintained with a downside being no HDMI out from the controller. I figured worst case would be a replacement of the controller to get full access to all of Klippers features, I ordered one last night, be here Saturday. I installed Cartographer3D on a K1, it lost it's mind, parked the Cartographer3D device over the rear by the nozzle cleaning area dangling the cartographer3D device off the bed and then ordered Z to raise, needless to say I spent some time fixing that software mistake., Creality custom python klipper modifications.
@FuttFel not everyone is a tinkering freak like you are. Bambu does it well, why can't these second-rate copycats do it as well?
As always an honest review, cheers chap !
Lol “taking the P1Ss”, well done 😂
Nice video, thank you. I really like your way of making this reviews. And mistakes can happen ;)
You are the best 3d printer reviewer ever. You tell it like it is.
Thank you so much for all your reviews!
I am one of the people you talk about, that wants to 3D print and not tinker with 3D printers.
You made me decide so save up a bit more and buy a Bambulab P1 series next month for my birthday (definetly using your link!)
I love printing, and still have a mostly stock original Ender 3, and having to babysit it everytime I want to print something, and
spending so much time changing filaments and re leveling the bed has gotten annoying over the past 5 years, and I just want something that works most of the time, with little input from me (and that's coming from a person who generally loves tinkering with machines)
Yeah, I hear you. I used to love tinkering and tweaking but with FDM printing, there’s so much faff, I’m like. Nah, just work please… P1’s do that
Brutally honest review. Thanks!
I agree with ya. I basically gave up 3d printing because of the issues I kept having with an ender 3 v2. Now I have a p1p and I've fallen back in love with 3d printing.
more printing, less diagnosing. I feel that.
@wonderbread6100 yeah exactly. Like Ross I'm not interested in tinkering I just wanna print.
I just replaced 5 SP3s and 2 SP5s with Qidi printers. Those two trees printers were an absolute nightmare until I spent many hours on the internet and learned how to write my own firmware. When I saw this wave of klipper printers coming out, and saw that the SK1 was coming, I had a feeling that the user experience would probably be similar to my other two trees printers. Which is why I went Qidi. And I honestly, partially, went Qidi because I didn't really like the fan boy mentality that is growing up around Bambu lab. But I did break down and buy a Bambu lab A1, and I love it. I guess my point is, I thought the SK1 would have issues and you have confirmed that. Thanks for the review!
Your opening statement is 100% spot on!!!!!
Thank you for sparing me and no doubt others from getting caught up with this one. As for just having printers that work, I'm with you. I built my first printer, a delta, from parts around 10 years ago. I have tweaked and fiddled and klipperized multiple creality machines. I built a VMinion - total pain in the butt to build but an excellent and very reliable and repeatable printer. I even know what most of the settings mean in slicers. And I got fed up with every print on any printer other than the VMinion being a crap shoot, having to watch the first layer super closely because the printer that was carefully aligned and tweaked two days earlier no longer knows it's freaking Z offset. I had a real problem getting consistent (or any) prints using a 0.2mm nozzle even on the VMinion.
So... I just bought an A1 Mini. I have come so close to buying Bambu for almost a year now, and I finally just got so fed up that I figured what the hell, it's only $300, other closed architecture stuff works well, I've spent more and ended up with a printer that sucks, give it a go. It's great. It just works. I'm printing more stuff for my HO scale and other model making interests. I just printed 10 things in a row using a 0.2 mm nozzle at 0.08 mm layer heights without a single glitch. No clogs. It's great. The quality is good enough that things I would have done in resin before getting the A1Mini can in some cases be done via FDM. Swapping nozzles in under a minute, no fuss no muss, just swap the nozzle, change the slicer printer to reflect the new nozzle size, print the thing. Swap back to a 0.4 mm nozzle, fire up another set of prints. Walk away, no worries. How wonderful. I'm just having a hard time telling myself to wait for the A1 to be available again rather than springing for a P1S. I almost never print ASA or anything besides PLA varieties, so the cost difference will buy a lot of filament :-)
It's very nice after years of fiddling with printers to have a couple I can just use!
I most definitely appreciate honest review's, damming or not. And I am 100% in the market for a printer that works out of the box with little or no messing about, I do not have the time or stress levels to deal with that nonsense.
this was a great review and I think it highlights something I have been pointing out for a very long time: that a truly good product is made by the very people who actually USE said product. It doesn't matter how good you are at design or engineering, if you do not understand what the end user experience is like you cannot possibly account for the things they are going to want. It would seem that the people designing this printer have not actually sat down and used it and then asked themselves what they would want to see changed to make it better for THEM. If enough of them had their wish lists pulled together I would expect that many of their wishes would overlap and they would get a really good picture of that they could change to take it from ok to good and then to excellent.
Thank you again sir. Regretfully, I missed the opportunity to watch this on the toilet. Maybe next time. 😊. Cheers
Watching on the toilet now. 10/10 recommend
Been very happy with my p1s. Not just the printer but the whole bambu ecosystem. It makes joining the 3d printer community very easy and pleasant experience
Oof!! That is one of the major issues with remote printing, as you said very easy to fix via sensors but does seem to be a very concise showing of how little thought appears to have been put into the user experience of the machine. Great review, keep up the honest work. I would love to see a chill print and paint video from you soon, maybe an hour long livestream.
I did the same with my Bambu it stop and sent me a message. Use it as a give a way someone will love it or use it as a boat anchor, modern art etc.. lol
Awesome unbiased review as always, please do the K1C next and compare it to the P1S. It's ok to compare printers to the gold standard, people did that with the prusa mk3 back in the day, it show us what should we aim for.
You made so many very fantastic points regarding the nuances this printer has. The UI has some translation errors, the "quick start guide" is useless, etc.. etc.. and I 100% agree with you on all of those points. They definitely add a stale feeling to this printer. I would be terrible to say otherwise. As well, given your physical issues with the printing process, I can totally understand you having a very bad experience with the printer. In my experience, the printing was SUPER easy, prints were flawless from the first print, not issues with calibration, etc.. so the other tiny bits didnt offend me too much. I think it also helps that I prefer klipper based machines just due to inherent nature. All of that said, if I want a printer to JUST WORK and JUST GET MY PRINT DONE perfectly, the bambu has never failed me. I love my SK1, and in fact I actually really like its build quality as well, but again, for someone just wanting a printer to function without issues, calibrate automatically and correctly every time, etc.. the bambu is the way to go. I think you hit the nail on the head with this review, but even saying that, it's crazy to see how two different people had wildly different user experiences with it.
When you mentioned the icons I couldn’t help but think of the Tartan Prancer!😂
I'm 100% with you. I built a reprap and love building and tinkering.
But even then I want a printer that just works.
I don't want to spend half my life tweaking and maintaining my printers
I think it will be interesting to see what the community will do to improve this printer. It looks like it has a lot of potential if some of the small issues get ironed out. I can see the hotend housing becoming an easy to print model w/ magnets right away once more folks get their hands on it.. Kind of curious if it could be retrofitted for other hotends too that way it's not reliant on two trees' hotend. I think i'm still keeping my eye on the Phrozen Arco for now though. It seems like the closest thing to the p1s/p1p alternative and they are really working on bringing a higher-end machine for around the same price.
I've done the calibrating & optimising bit... I finally figured out that my hobby's 3D Printing, not 3D printers...
This is literally the only honest review of this printer I've ever seen. Every review I watched on this machine didn't bring up anything at all and just said its the best printer ever made (buy from my affiliate link!). Bambu doesn't get a perfect score -- but they do a whole lot right, especially on the little details. Honestly, when you buy a cheap knock off, you can't be too surprised when you receive a cheap knock off. The SK1 is a cheap knock off, what you'll save in terms of money you'll just lose in terms of time and effort. Good review, you sassy young lad.
I'd say the whole process of that mistake is a great way to test the error detection and reporting function, which is crucial. And honestly, could or should even be included in reviews in the future. I thought I could get over with the janky interface, but this was the final nail in the coffin.
The flashforge 5m, in the recent sale, is pretty good. Buddy pi ked it up and using orca it's doing well
Loved Ur review really
I love 3d printing, it is amazing and I am now addicted, that said I really do not enjoy when I have to take apart the extruder or print head on my K1 Max to fix a clog or other issue, I am always worried I am going to break something, I do not know how to build a printer from the ground up and I do not wish to learn. I LOVE my Bambu A1 for letting me change a nozzle so easilly.
Brother YOU are 100 percent right I though i was the only one that was saing the same thing >>> Why can i 3d print without been a freaking robotics expert SOO thank you bro LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!
I almost bought this printer, but decided to go with an adventurer 5M. I waited too long on buying the 5M and the price jumped from 299 to 399, so I passed and bought a factory refurbished Ender 3 V3 SE. Other than it wants to stick a little too well to the bed and I had to start using hair spray to make it easier to remove prints, it's a nice printer. I have a sonicpad new in the box that I had never gotten around to using due to none of my printers being stock. I am thinking hard about making the switch to klipper after I do a firmware update on the sonic pad.
You're not wrong on the 'it's a tool, not a toy' aspect. If you want to fiddle with a printer, that's what Vorons and DIY builds are for. I've done my time with building and upgrading a printer at this point; now I have backlogs to deal with and things need to be done where a quality machine comes in. Hell, I still have a six year old Delta that I'm considering refurbing for the third time, but it's working so well as a critical pillar for my crap corner...
Well, that, and the whole free time quotient being -1.
Thanks for doing a review on this printer. I like that it's open source and don't like Bamboo for the opposite reason. I've seen a few reviews of this printer and it looked pretty good in them but that wobble is a worry! I wonder if you received a faulty machine? I hope they adress the issues with this machine and I hope they bring out a bigger one. Cheers!
I hope that these hold up over time, one of the biggest reasons to go Bambu is reliability so if these last it’ll be great competition
I guess time will tell
Two trees sent me a printer for review several years ago, and my experience was so similar to yours. Decent hardware, corners cut, and a joke of an overall customer experience.
Cool review 👍
You're in good company Uncle Jessy went viral with his door swinging on the Creality K1 review.
The terrain reminds me of the Space Marine Central command structure (Chapel Barracks?) from Dawn of War.
Great review!
Yes! I am in that camp! I love to invent products. I want to model it in 3d and send it to the printer without having to do a damn thing to make it print perfectly the first time! Exactly why I just ordered a Bambu P1S.
Yeah, It's hard to do any review now without mentioning the Bambu Lineup
FYI when I was contacting TwoTrees support for what kind of nozzle they are using and whether it was a standard volcano. They said yes.
There is a reason I own a x1c with ams and several diy printers including a few vorons. The bambu lab printer is a push print and go. It also calibrates all filaments for me.
You are absolute right 👍🏻 and you were even lucky that your SK1 prints at all, mine doesn't work out of the box because it drives hard into the front and right frame struts during mesh leveling and the print head is far outside the center of the print bed. Help from TwoTrees? not even remotely :-(
Are you returning the printer?
Did you try printing slower to see if the vertical lineup improves?
Just "for fun" of course. I wouldn't own a Lamborigini to drive it slow (unless on Sundays of course, lol)
Lots of good reviews on TH-cam for that printer when it has absurdly obvious flaws, it's getting a bit ridiculous. Thanks for your integrity.
There are too many gift printers in those reviews, so you can't say what you want as you want t more review units.
It doesn't change the argument, but the 256^3 build volume is an even number (2^8) not something random.
Yeah, I’m done soldering to the printer board, and other tinkering to make things go. I want to focus on my 3D designs, printing them, making videos and learning to paint them.
Very nice touch with the slow rewind in the end. You sure had a hard time finding anything positive to say about this machine. I have lately been more and more puzzled over the fact so many manufacturers keep trying to make copies, to fail miserably since it’s nowhere near the original. Seems there’s no assessment process at all or; ok, it’s shit but we’ll release it anyway since we put all this effort into it and we might fool someone into buying it. 🙈
I have the predecessor to this machine, the Two Trees Sapphire Pro and its just bewilderingly bad when it didn't need to be. They couldn't be bothered to even position the steppers in the correct alignment to the gantry and so the print head over travels in some coordinates and under in others. It seemed such a steal for something that so heavy duty and feature packed, but it feels like it was designed by someone trying to reverse engineer a printer but who've never actually built or even used one before.
Attack of the clones (genetic anomalies appearing) - Great video once again! Great production values as always!
Luvd the video.
Love your content, thank you.
But I have to ask, what's that model/ link/file for that dragon/demon beer can holder? Please😅
How did you know! I was watching this on the toilet 😅
Glad Faux wasn’t impressed by it being a cheaper attempt at a clone and did a very particular probe of the printer. You’re buying more of a project printer here…than an actual reliable product.
Spot on out of the gate, the user experience is absolutely what keeps BL eating everybody's lunch. It's unfortunate this one seems like another "looks the same, most of similar features" without that, and some QA issues to boot w that z lead screw issue. The wait for a viable BL alternative without the BL baggage continues.
thanks for the video
Mine printed from box without any issues. Just standard calibration
Other reviews show perfect corners, such curvatures are either issues with the slicer or horrendous lead screws on the z axes, i tend to believe is something with the slicer and the settings. Linear rails are way more accurate and reliable than the carbon fibre rods babulab uses in the p1p and p1s. not to mention it does not need a poop shut so wastes very little filament. Basic hardware and motion system using linear rail makes ialmost as good as a Voron, on top that is open source makes it a better choice for me, What I need to confirm is how real is the vertical distortion shown here.
I tried to share this on the Phrozen Arco Facebook group as an example of where good spec on paper doesnt always translate into a decent whole machine. I got banned immediately hahaha touched a nerve!
Nah. I have p1s with just one AMS. It's totally worth every penny. Zero error machine. Literally for 3 month of almost daily abuse I only once pulled out ptfe cuz I pulled the filament mid print manually 😵💫
With my head injury I would not even touch this machine, the Bambu x1 carbon is easy to use. Basically it’s a Kiss machine that even a dummy like me can run. I’ve had ender 3 clone, any cubic cr-6 se and others. I don’t want to always being doing maintenance on one or two machines, after my experience of upgrading most of them I will never get a machine that you have to do that. I’ve worked as a machinist running manual and CNC machines all of them require maintenance and additional upgrades as they become available. But dang all these 3d FDm printers expect the bambu that I own is a maintenance hell, I’m dumping 4 FDm and 1 resin printers. On my resin printers my gk Two just works like the bambu. On the Resin printer had the mars 2p great little printer got rid of it just run out of space, got rid of a non working Anycubic mono 6 k, the mono is so so, the M5s I hate. the elegoo mars 3 is good and the 4dlp size wise work great as a substitute for small parts when the gk is in use. I just want a printers that works I can go in and hit print. Looking at the Voron for FDm printer I look at them they are work, print great than you have to build it. This machine looks like you are always going to be working on it no thank a good boat anchor. As always great video. With my head injury everyone I feel your pain in reading posts. Lol
The hotend may not be a 1to1 bambu clon but you can just put the bambu clone hotends into it. But beware they use different sized connectors than the p1p and technically a different tempsensor.
You are our 'poet'...but not theirs....and yet I'm still interested in this machine
Honestly I feel like the "Did the printer warn about a previous print on the bed" should almost be a test you run for FDM printing. My wife and I both use our printer, it's happened that one of us thought the bed was empty and started something up remotely from the other room and caused an issue. Once it happens I have to redo all my bed leveling and it's a pain.
One the ecosystem side, I absolutely despise the locked down systems. I want the option to just grab whatever damn thing I want, to use 3rd party stuff, to fuck up if I want. But you are 100%, most 3d printers really need to have a better out of the box "Just works" experience. I might be fine with fiddling with settings, but most people want to hit Print and have it done. People only have so much time.
The enclosure is available now. 546 Euro Printer incl the enclosure, you can compare it to bambu, but the price...
My kit comes in today with the enclosure, not sure yet if the camera is included.
Aux Fans. Top and side panels, filters and external air fan
But my Sapphire Pro was exactly the same, it comes as an working machine, with plenty of room to mod.
And Hardware is good, but this is aimed at people who know their 3d printing, it is not a brand for starters.
From the brief glimpse at the user manual, they appear to have done a better job at translating the letter in French than in English.
You are not alone at all. The whole direction of the modern 3d printers is towards being an appliance . I Know enough to do some work but id prefer the Company does all that for me instead of leaving it to the community or ME. I'm paying or getting an appliance from you, company, you have far more time and resources then I do, so do all the R&D and tests before you send it to me or take my money. That's your job Period.
A printer that is EXACTLY like this and the P1P but costs less than both AND is fantastic right out of the box with no issues: Flashforge Adventurer 5M $299 and it actually prints cleaner and better than the Bambu P1P and P1S
I hate that the one time I'm on the toilet, I'm called out for it 😂😂
Wait, they made what they think is a direct P1P competitor but you still need to use paper for the Z offset? At 5:00.
Dodged the proverbial bullet. Thank you!
The French version of "A letter to a client" at 5:33 seems to have a better translation than the English one. All the sentences make sense, and the title has even been changed to "Letter to our clients".
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Have you seen the mess that is the Phrozen Arco Kickstarter?
Really expected better from an experienced company.
Having bought a printer from TwoTrees before, their SP-5 v1.1 unit. It looked to be an alright machine, however the customer service of TwoTrees was abyssmal. There were some stripped threads on the parts that came pre-assembled (among other issues, like cables ripped from the print bed, that had to be resoldered, their QA is just terrible). The customer support basically went in a hazing ritual, where first they wanted images, then they wanted videos of the issue, then they wanted me to prove that there is no oil on the screw (however that is supposed to work), then they accused me of using the wrong size of screwdriver bit, then the video is not well lit enough, and so on and so forth.
If they work out of the box and everything is great, sure, but since the support is terrible and they don't sell spare parts for the mechanics of their machines, I'd never consider purchasing from them again.
Hello! can you do the Creality K1C~? they say the K1C is light years from the K1
I was expecting one, let me chase them
@@FauxHammer Oh nice! thank you sir!
as you spoke german, this comment section is now EIGENTUM DER BUNDESREPUBLIK DEUTSCHLAND!
saw this printer on fb and thought it might be a good cheaper alternative to the p1p till i saw the price was almost the same. From a consumer stand point i don't see the sense of buying a lesser worse printer over a known superior product unless the price is significantly cheaper.
I saw this printer on 3D Printer Deals and I thought it was a Bambu Labs clone. Turns out I’m not the only one who thought this.
Edit: man this leaves a lot to be desired in terms of UI or design. Could have been nice but there’s a few tweaks that need to be made.
This really just means that Bambu labs' factory in china had its tooling leaked out or they are selling parts on the black market to resellers. This is actually a good thing because it'll force them to update to differentiate themselves from the cheap clones.
Toilet posters rise up
Cool
i would say look at flashforge adventurer 5m only 220mm but i would say it is better then TwoTrees sk1
Yeah, probably true.
yea my only gripe with this printer is the use of the linear rail as a gantry. ratrig community has proven that the linear rails arent rigid enough so you end up with some flex
The wobble is a bent leadscrew, printer is trashed.
If the printer had v6 nozzles and plain klipper UI it would be significantly more useful than a p1p, theoretically the linear rails would even give better print quality
Mistakes happen. Tinkering isn't for everyone. Yet It shouldn't be assumed a specific feature is just on a printer unless its advertised as such. I do enjoy your content though as an aside.
Didn’t TwoTrees make some sort of controller for the X1C and P1P ? Multi Printer controller ? I have to wonder how that worked out seeing this horrible interface.
That was bigtreetech.
Those nozzles aren’t really proprietary. They’re the standard Ali Express nozzle for the knockoff Bambu hotends. They’re easy to source. Solid review though.
It's ok, a guy online told me Phrozen is going to put Bambu out of business next month...
Ross, theese wobbles looks like typical Z-wobble. It's not about the belts tension, but a problem with one of three of the t-rod nuts. The entire rod might wobble when bed goes up and down. It needs that problem nut's holding screws to be unscrewed and screwed back. It is a printer assemble problem from what I see.
Dam bro.
I haven't jammed a print into the bed... That looked painful.
I just want to point out that using a spray can indoors is *_NOT_* safe, whether you use a spray booth or not. Stick an air quality monitor in the room and you can see for yourself. Those booths are simply not calibrated for such a high volume, plus the content of the cans tends to be far more toxic than airbrush primers and such.
i semi agree with you that you shouldnt have to tinker with a 3d printer or any hobby dealing with fun/electronics, but i came from computer building and drone building and flying. i personally think its important for anyone if not everyone to know general basics about stuff to fix things yourself and know the general know how to troubleshoot and get things working. theres no need for excuses. if youre not using your brain,.... what are you doing?
The tech behind is more like an Creality Ender 5 that want's to look like a Bambu Lab P1P or Voron 2.4.
Long story short: buy a Creality K1, Sovol SV07 or Ender 3v3 instead. Those 330 - 450 bucks are invested much better. Because they work out of the box.
I find it amusing how companies will start copying popular printers. For years everyone was copying the Prusa MK bed slinger. And now they copy the Bambu coreXY with frame for enclosure.
How did you know i'm sitting on the toilet? 😂
Expectation Management and rushing to get something out are probably the biggest culprets here, that's squarely on TwoTrees.
This is clearly not a printer for beginners, but it doesn't feel like its a bad printer (or at least, has the *potential* to be a good one). I feel if they hadn't been so aggressive in attempting to clone the Bambu (even down to the price) it would have been easier to forgive, and reccomend.