What Is An Air Suspension?

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    An air suspension simply replaces the springs of a vehicle (whether it be coil, , etc) with air springs. Instead of a coil spring, you have a rubber membrane which is inflated with air, which the vehicle is resting on. The pressurized air is what is holding the vehicle up. This video will compare rolling lobe air springs versus convoluted springs, open versus closed air spring systems, and look at the advantages and disadvantages of air suspension systems.
    The benefits of an air suspension include:
    1. Ingress/Egress: Ram 1500 has a specific mode which lowers the truck as much as possible for getting in or out. It doesn’t drive at speed at this ride height.
    2. Off-road use. There are two modes for raising the suspension, which is great for off-road use as it increases the ground clearance, approach angle, breakover angle, and departure angle of the vehicle.
    3. Better aerodynamics. The Ram 1500 will automatically lower when driving on the highway to reduce drag and improve fuel economy.
    4. Load-leveling. If you put a significant amount of weight in the truck bed, steel springs means the rear will now ride lower. With load leveling the truck will automatically raise the truck bed to the targeted ride height.
    5. Improved ride quality. This is a byproduct of how the system behaves. As you increase payload, the system increase pressure to maintain a set ride height. By increasing the pressure, it increases the spring rate. This maintains a fairly constant ride frequency, which means the truck will feel pretty much the same from a comfort standpoint regardless of how much weight it’s carrying. In this scenario, the volume within the airbag remains constant, while the pressure increases with added load.
    6. Prevent getting high-centered. Some off-road vehicles equipped with air suspensions will have a mode that lifts the vehicle further than it’s highest ride height in order to allow it to not get stuck. In the event of getting high centered, the vehicle will raise to attempt to allow you to back up off the obstacle.
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  • @NevinWilliams71
    @NevinWilliams71 8 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Another pro for auto-leveling air suspensions: headlight remained properly aimed, and do not blind oncoming drivers when bed is loaded.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ahh, good call! Some trucks will have adjustable lights to compensate for this, but certainly best if no compensation is ever needed.

    • @otaverhagem
      @otaverhagem 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hi, nice video.
      Could you make a video explaing how air brake system (like the truck brake) works?
      Thanks

    • @Valen46442
      @Valen46442 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +otávio augusto verhagem would love to watch that video..

    • @Modelero
      @Modelero 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The main problem are morons who drive during night always with hi beams on

    • @Shepard_AU
      @Shepard_AU 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm glad that you consider the blinding of other road users from headlights as opposed to many motorists.

  • @Nonamenever557
    @Nonamenever557 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My Land Rover Discovery 2 has air suspension at the rear. 17 years old and i only had to replace the two rear bags after 15 years of use. Never had any other problems and the bags were £80 each. When they did fail it was just a slow leak, so in the morning the car would be sitting on its ass. Towed a 3 ton trailer and the car was completely level. Great system!!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Very cool! Land Rover has also implemented a system that will raise to its limit if the vehicle is high centered (beyond its limit for driving), giving you slightly more ground clearance than usual to attempt to let you back up off whatever obstacle you were stuck on. Once you're back to moving around, it returns to a drivable ride height.

    • @Nonamenever557
      @Nonamenever557 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah they have certainly taken it to new heights (excuse the pun) in the later models. What i find even more impressive is the way they take an independent suspension system (LR3 onwards) and use air suspension to mimic the off road characteristics of a solid axle setup. When one wheel is pushed upwards, it sends pressure to the corresponding wheel, actively pushing it downwards for better articulation. Very clever!

    • @batard
      @batard 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 2004 Disco 2, and many people convert the rear suspension to springs because these actually aren't terribly reliable. LR itself recommends replacing them every five years. If you're doing anything approaching serious offroading/overlanding, the reliability advantage argues for springs and shocks. It's one less thing that can break. If you're towing a lot, having the air suspension is worth it despite the maintenance. It all depends on what you do with the vehicle, if you ask me.

    • @Nonamenever557
      @Nonamenever557 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      batard Yeah that's a fair point. But to be honest I think its overkill to convert to coils on these. The parts for the air suspension are not expensive. I have taken mine off-road quite frequently and its very useful to have that extra ride height, especially with a giant towbar that acts like a plough. I know people with P38s and if i were them i would convert to coils as those things are nightmares. The system on the Discos is much more simple. Have you had any issues with yours?

    • @c0r5e
      @c0r5e 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      D Gilbert u were lucky with that land rover unit

  • @man_on_wheelz
    @man_on_wheelz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have a strong love/hate for air suspension systems, especially on household cars. Lets take a Lincoln Navigator for instance. When working properly it provides a nice comfy, cushy ride and the fact it can automatically adjust with load preventing any squatting with weight is pretty awesome! But I've driven one where the system has failed and the whole truck was sitting on the suspension bumper stoppers. All I had to do was pull it into a shop stall for the mechanic from the parking lot, and hands down that was the most rough and uncomfortable ride I have ever experienced! And that was only about 300 ft... I could only imagine this happening to a customer on the road and having to drive it all the way to the shop. I'm sure most people would prefer to get a tow.

  • @evan937
    @evan937 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My fathers 96 Lincoln Continental has air suspension . Such a comfy ride.

  • @chengcui8339
    @chengcui8339 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Well explained! material-wise how long can the rubber membrane last? Any idea?

  • @texan176
    @texan176 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's worth the extra $ to get air suspension when you get a new vehicle. On luxury cars the air suspension will lower the car 1-2 inches at highway speed for better aerodynamics. At low speeds the driver can adjust the height in a heavy rain to ride higher if needed. The ride quality is also better. When it goes out of warranty it's time to sell the car. From Lexus to Mercedes Benz one air shock/strut can cost anywhere from $500 to $1500+. You can also go insane/broke chasing down leaks in the system when the failure is not in the bag part at all.

  • @Hydrospx
    @Hydrospx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, as always!! Another con is that it adds weight. The Ram with an air suspension has a lower payload and towing capacity than one with out it.

  • @DoubleYouPee1
    @DoubleYouPee1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You should do one on hydraulic suspension found on older Citroens and Rolls Royce :)

    • @MianeLoL
      @MianeLoL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its used on the current c5 also. I feel so cool driving an old ass xantia right now

    • @DoubleYouPee1
      @DoubleYouPee1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, the system is awesome. The latest version on the Xantia Active is really complicated... but all of them from DS/CX are so great to drive.
      While he's at it he can cover DIRAVI steering system as well ^^

    • @gadgetboy38
      @gadgetboy38 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd also like to see a video based on the Citroen system, its a lot more advanced than what ford are using.

    • @h8u4ever
      @h8u4ever 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I second that, I want a video about that! :)

    • @Nikoxion
      @Nikoxion 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seconded, he could cover it in sections: conventional, "Hydroactive" and "Activa".
      Mentioning Diravi would be a bonus ^_^

  • @austintimm1784
    @austintimm1784 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Additionally, on the subject of air power, I would love to see a video on heavy duty air brakes.

    • @joshs6405
      @joshs6405 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @Motorsports7
      @Motorsports7 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey guy, heavy duty diesel mechanic here, They're super boring.
      all it is without getting technical is a kind of air bag pressing on a slack adjuster which is pretty much just a lever, the presses on a S-cam that spins inside a drum and moves the brake shoes apart

    • @joshs6405
      @joshs6405 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Motorsports7​
      I'm apprenticing at a HD Mechanic shop, and one of the guys showed me an open brake pot that they have on display. It seems rather simple, but I wouldn't mind a video on the subject.

  • @HaloToday
    @HaloToday 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work in a shop with several diesel pickups and do have aftermarket airbags installed on some of our trucks. Having the airbags makes a huge difference when towing/hauling things with a good amount of weight. If I ever purchase a truck I would definitely want airbags installed

  • @shobud7943
    @shobud7943 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    now u made me wanna learn about buses now

    • @kevinhornbuckle
      @kevinhornbuckle 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a look at the iconic GMC highway coach suspension. It has air beams, two "air bellows" at each wheel. The coach feels like it is floating down the highway. The leveling system compensates when cornering. It was then a pioneering technology.

    • @man_on_wheelz
      @man_on_wheelz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'll also likely learn that most of the buses and big trucks with an automatic transmission all run the same Allison transmission. That transmission company is kind of a monopoly lol

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MAN_ON_WHEELZ Allison, Aisn and Eaton Fuller

    • @man_on_wheelz
      @man_on_wheelz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      jfsa380 I've heard of Eaton Fuller but not Aisn. But to my understanding all of the transit busses here in Chicago run Allisons and most school busses and garbage trucks do too.

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +MAN_ON_WHEELZ i have two jobs and am volunteering with a fire department. The buses (coach usa) and fire apparatuses (spartans) have allisons, the trucks (penske) generally have eaton fullers.

  • @peanuts2105
    @peanuts2105 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Land Rover has this system nailed. Stunning piece of engineering that accomplishes all roads

  • @DyingToLive12
    @DyingToLive12 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    dude your like the Driftor of the car world. very smart.

    • @potion7410
      @potion7410 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is huh

    • @Z6D4C4
      @Z6D4C4 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahaha, oh my god.

    • @zameernizam3825
      @zameernizam3825 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's 100x better because there is so much information because it's allll engineering

  • @martingarza8551
    @martingarza8551 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I do know firsthand is the larger the bag the smoother the ride especially when well loaded. The major drawback is when off-roading which is typical in Texas the bags make the axles act like basketball being dribbled. Letting the suspension down helps if you aren't bottomed out. Small bags are a bummer. On a pickup it would seem overkill considering the quality of the ride versus what the air system would provide. But then again most modern day trucks have one to two airbags under the cab as well and under the seat. A $1000 seat is like sitting on a living room couch compared to a $500 which after a few hours your lower back will be talking to you in pain lol.

  • @Aksm91ManNavar
    @Aksm91ManNavar 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you please do a video about dually trucks?

  • @boostedlife6778
    @boostedlife6778 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey great videos. I watched both part 1 and 2. Two questions I do have. 1. How does it effect the camber while changing the ride hight ? 2. What about alignment ? Since there is a get in and out mode like you said what do you do for an alignment ? I appreciate your time

  • @mrfrech2191
    @mrfrech2191 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wouldn´t it be another con that it is more prone to damage or malfunctions as a spring is a single basic physical part while you need a whole system to get the air suspension working and if it were damaged or you lose power (it uses power doesn´t it?) one would wind up with no suspension? I recon as you didn´t mention it that this system is durable enough so it doesn´t make any difference but that rolling lobe system at 2:26 looks kinda open to me especially when off roading isn´t there a danger of leakage due to damage from harsh terrain/ branches etc?

  • @choppersbriskets1277
    @choppersbriskets1277 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you explain the airbags which are placed inside of the spring please?????????? Thanks for all your work.

  • @jacobrodriguez3296
    @jacobrodriguez3296 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if you have a closed air system reusing that air wouldn't that air get hot and how do they cool it down as the system reuses it

  • @rrssmooth6643
    @rrssmooth6643 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the suspension air bags on my Volvo truck, the rear use to bob up and down while driving along, but now the rear seems to sit at the same level and feels like a rougher ride on highway.

  • @chrispridemore5562
    @chrispridemore5562 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I tell my homies how cool this channel is. :)

  • @suncitybooks5542
    @suncitybooks5542 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Constant headlight aiming,not bottoming out and consistent handling are also nice

  • @mrithun15
    @mrithun15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a video on the Audi Air suspension. the A6 was the best ride quality i have personally experienced

  • @ktadamsII
    @ktadamsII 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I second what Nevin Williams said. Keeping the headlights level, and not blinding especially with the newer HID and LED lights. Level headlights are important. Even with headlights that can adjust themselves to compensate for the angle of the body, the increased air pressure in the air bags will stiffen the ride, making the load handling safer, but also help with headlight bouncing over bumps

  • @voilemontagne
    @voilemontagne 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Apart from raising your vehicle when you add weight in a precise place, what are the advantages of these compare to magnetic suspension? And isn't the weight of these a bit too much?

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +lelegume1635 you wouldn't choose between air and magnetic. Air is for the springs, magnetic is for shocks, you can have both, as some sports cars and luxury SUVs do.

    • @voilemontagne
      @voilemontagne 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Engineering Explained oh okay thanks. sorry for my mistake.

    • @rileywilson7935
      @rileywilson7935 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Engineering Explained I'm 14 and a car guy but I need to learn more and it's nice since I've found your channel because I can learn more every video

    • @ST-actual
      @ST-actual 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you'll want to keep watching engineering explained as well as chrisfix, eric the car guy, and scotty kilmer. theres alot more "car guys" on youtube, but those 4 will be plenty for you to learn. also, if you own a car, sign up for a forum dedicated to that make or model and you'll get a ton of valuable information too. last tip, if you own a car, buy a service manual for your specific make model and year. all invaluable tools in self teaching.

    • @DragonKnightX12
      @DragonKnightX12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other than that you can lower the truck to get out of it easier or raise it up to get over something

  • @ElvisCarrilloelvi5man
    @ElvisCarrilloelvi5man 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge. When I have my car I will tune it with a Convulted Air Suspension.

  • @hmdz150
    @hmdz150 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the ride comfort compared to spring suspensions? Do air suspension systems absorb road shock better than spring suspensions? Can they absorb shocks of higher frequencies?
    And how does the ride elevation from sea-level affect these suspension systems?

  • @nazzainee3477
    @nazzainee3477 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when a car goes over a bump does the air bag stretch? how is the energy absorbed, what i mean is like how a normal coil spring will get squished, whats the equivalent to the airbag?

  • @miigaaerdenetsogt7456
    @miigaaerdenetsogt7456 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it is definitely much better and more expensive suspension. i wonder how durable and reliable it is - i mean if it is about twice as expensive and it lasts with the vehicle also twice more time, there should not be a problem. Does anyone know its reliability and durability vs the traditional ones?

  • @TheDaltonmichaels
    @TheDaltonmichaels 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    not sure if air suspension is really much more expensive. initial cost yes. but i wouldn't bother replacing airbags with factory replacements since there are tons of aftermarket options. i work at a plant as an engineer and there is pretty much infinite sizes of air bags and styles available. airlines are easy to replace. pumps can be replaced by aftermarket as well as tanks. pressure sensors, solenoids, ride height sensors is all available in the aftermarket world. IMO air ride is superior for the every day truck compared to the coil or leave spring.

  • @boci_levu
    @boci_levu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is another con the air spring can be 'punctured', like a tire? This would be important off-road if driving over sharp twigs or branches.

  • @thegreatempire3882
    @thegreatempire3882 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the air suspension in my RAM 1500. Smooth ride with great handling, for a Truck.

  • @FlyDontLandOnFlowers
    @FlyDontLandOnFlowers 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't thank you enough for making these videos. You answer a lot of the questions that I ponder and now I have decided that I should get air suspension on my car. Because I will be using my car for daily driving, as well as a show car, it would be nice to switch between the two at a push of a button as opposed to spending an hour or so adjusting the coilovers

    • @gillund27
      @gillund27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Volvo xc90 air suspensjon

    • @gillund27
      @gillund27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Volvo 2019 XC 90 Air Suspension

  • @jimcole5359
    @jimcole5359 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the down sides to air ride suspension is limited suspension travel unless very large bag systems are in place. Nice explanation of the system though, keep up the good work.

  • @Your2nddaddy
    @Your2nddaddy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now can you please explain to me why people install air ride on a car like the Subaru STI or BMW M3? Of course ride height but how does it affect handling while cornering at high speeds and overall the performance of the vehicle?

  • @DslrSkateFilms
    @DslrSkateFilms 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would air suspension change cornering characteristics? Because it would seem like there would be an increase in body roll or something, right?

  • @mrfolkblues
    @mrfolkblues 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the difference in weight versus standard springs and shocks? For example, if you had a car that had springs and you replaced that with an air suspension because you wanted adjustable ride height, how much additional weight would you have with the bags, compressor, and reservoirs (if needed)?

    • @derkdude4
      @derkdude4 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can only comment on the RAM as I've worked on many of those, but the weight difference from air to steel springs in these trucks are nearly the same. Just a huge ride quality difference

  • @thedarkknight4243
    @thedarkknight4243 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Engineering Explained,
    Thank you so much for that information. Some few questions: -
    1. Can the air suspension work with traditional coil springs or magnetic suspension for better ride feel and comfort (thinking of the BMW X5 SUV suspension for leveling and ride feel), or it is a must they work as separate systems.
    2. If you had a, say other SUV/truck irrespective of the manufacturer, can you add the air suspension to stock suspension or will the manufacturer oppose it? please include technical reasons.
    3. Please explain how is it that the air bag can handle the sprung (vehicle's) weight, what material is it made of, can it handle road debris and other shrapnel that can puncture it (expensive to repair/replace), and does the air suspension system add too much weight costing fuel efficiency to the vehicle. (point of consideration)
    4. Can one obtain the air suspension from a third party manufacturer, or do you have to get the overpriced one from the manufacturer. On a side note, if possible, please state compatibility issues with vehicle model, suspension technicalities/design (preferably double-wishbone suspension or McPherson suspension, if it will work), and manufacturer preferences.
    Thank you.

    • @ootdega
      @ootdega 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1. No. The air springs replace your coil springs. There are also air bags that go inside existing coil springs, such as some Air Lift systems.
      2. It's your car, you can do what you want with it.
      3. Standard air springs are constructed similarly to a tire, and would behave as such. The aforementioned bag inserts are probably the same thing with silicone instead of rubber. The difference in weight between air springs and standard metal springs is negligible. Rubber is of course lighter than steel, but you also need a compressor and air system, so there's no significant difference.
      4. Air Lift is the main source for dedicated air suspensions. There are some kits specifically for certain cars, such as Mustangs, but otherwise you just find something that fits. No, there will not be problems. It just goes where your springs are. Who cares what the manufacturer prefers and why would the manufacturer care in the first place? You know what you need your car to do, it's none of their business.
      5. Google is your friend. Don't expect anyone else to respond to a several-part essay in a TH-cam comment section. Do it yourself, it's not hard.

    • @thedarkknight4243
      @thedarkknight4243 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you ootdega for the information, I will consider the price and specs if I ever decide to replace stock suspension with air suspension.

  • @viniciusmbatalha
    @viniciusmbatalha 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does The air bags reduce the shear force comparing with a normal spring? Does it have any dangerous effect if it is to much shear like when drifting?

  • @kurtz2718
    @kurtz2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Could you clarifh one important point please, with air suspension, does compression rate change at various settings or it only adds functionality of ride height?

  • @Bobbybeb
    @Bobbybeb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All I know about air ride is it is extremely comfortable and expensive to replace lol. My only question is how do they keep moisture out of the system?

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +Bobby0345 desiccant packets ;)

    • @shaunmasters3881
      @shaunmasters3881 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi Bobby0345 . I work on buses that use air suspension . To keep out moisture they use a unit called an air dryer .

    • @man_on_wheelz
      @man_on_wheelz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was gonna say I remember learning in class about an air dryer unit but this guy beat me to it.

    • @derkdude4
      @derkdude4 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I work at a dodge dealer, and these systems are filled with 99.9% pure nitrogen and are completely closed system (with a port to help maintain height during a leak)Without any oxygen in it, corrosion cannot happen. If a leak does happen, it will take in 10 litres of air at a time, then sit for a couple seconds, then dump out 5 litres. This is done to drain/spray out any moisture that may come it with the fresh air (due to pressure change). It will then display a message in the cluster to have the suspension system serviced. Where after the leak is repaired, the system will be filled with nitrogen again.

    • @javeronh.3996
      @javeronh.3996 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jason Cronje, that makes sense.  all air compressors end up getting the water molecules to bunch up.  that is why garage air compressors are supposed to have a drain (well all air compressors are supposed to).  some are automatic, some are manual.  I am really thinking about doing an all around air ride suspension for my diesel truck to soften the ride but still be able to haul a lot when needed. I will leave my rear leaf springs, taking out a few because it is almost like a rock with how stiff it is at the moment

  • @Mattjew098
    @Mattjew098 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question unrelated to this video on air suspension. I used to drive a 2015 Dodge Dart and now I drive 1999 vw Jetta. One of the features I really enjoyed on the dart was the hill start assist. Here's my question: Could you explain the hill start assist system and how one might be able to replicate the system and install it on a car?

    • @derkdude4
      @derkdude4 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quick explanation, the Dart uses onboard computers to monitor vehicle angle (like sitting on an incline), sees vehicle speed is stopped and foot on brake, uses ABS to hold the brakes for about a second after brake is released. You might or might not have noticed that if you took your foot off the brake and didn't engage the clutch, the car would roll back when the brake is released.

  • @timothy__tt
    @timothy__tt 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it is implied that if the city buses (using the example in the video) used closed air systems, there would be no hissing noise? Then where does the air pressure go? Back to the reservoir tanks?

  • @Valen46442
    @Valen46442 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so, did all the modern car with button that raised the ride height is using air suspension?

  • @flyby613
    @flyby613 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you use this on a really low car so you can get over speed bumps and drive ways?

  • @redneckphysics
    @redneckphysics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you loose low speed articulation( travel) when at max ride height/ max high pressure?
    Also do you know what system the hummer ev uses?
    -thanks

  • @magicpoptartz1436
    @magicpoptartz1436 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a difference between the kind for trucks and what people use to lower their cars

  • @xeno126
    @xeno126 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if it fails? Compressor, hoses, valves, membranes, reservoir, sensors, isn't that too many failure points?

  • @renatorqg
    @renatorqg 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video and explanation Jason. But I am wondering if there is any consideration upon damage of the rubber membrane if you drive in gravel pretty fast or even if you drive in the mud a lot like the scenes of your video at 08s. For example, the rolling cobe type suspension covered by dirt, if you lower and raise several times I think it will wear out the rubber. Is there a recommendation to wash under the car more often to avoid that wear? The steel springs don't have this concern.

  • @nejckra
    @nejckra 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One question comes to mind: How much more likely is air suspension to fail (break) compared to normal suspension?

  • @devaturbo3623
    @devaturbo3623 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, if the pressure increases, the suspension will be stiffer, will it not lose all the comfort? It just keeps the height, but the car gets stiffer the more weight I carry, like the normal spring and shock suspension. Is that right?

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Deva Turbo my next video on air springs will answer this in great detail! :)

  • @munmunyee
    @munmunyee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about performance and track facts as opposed to something like Bilstein's inverted monotube system? Specifically looking at cornering speed.

  • @Yashkhambayat
    @Yashkhambayat 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    how are the rebound rates , shock absorption capacities and durability; when compared to a conventional spring damper setup?

  • @robbiemiller2334
    @robbiemiller2334 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I checked the channel for your part 2 and couldn't find it. I was hoping you covered air helpers. It seems like a pretty obvious ideology but wanted to see a more visual video before I bought one.

  • @ZaydEdits
    @ZaydEdits 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    On aftermarket systems what’s the hissing sound come from when the bags air out? Is it from the lines, bags, manifold etc?

  • @jordyn444
    @jordyn444 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do a video about different types of gasoline, like ones with detergents vs ones that don't and if there's really a difference in fuel economy, wear, etc.

  • @skeptaaintyourcousin4560
    @skeptaaintyourcousin4560 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the difference between aftermarket Air Suspension systems, such as AirLift, compared to those used in the RAM?

    • @thegreatempire3882
      @thegreatempire3882 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ram's is designed for the application? Aftermarket is kinda a catch all?
      That's a good question.

  • @rileywilson7935
    @rileywilson7935 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you were to add a big pay load, and the air suspension was to add pressure to increase ride hight. wouldn't that give to driver a higher risk of potentially blowing an air bag if rough terrain were to come in their path?

  • @CarsandtheirParts
    @CarsandtheirParts 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how these trucks are common in the US, in England if you see one it's a once in a lifetime experience "whoa no way an American truck that's huuuge" lmao

  • @maveriky43
    @maveriky43 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have air ride on my Cuda, it is such a good system and always nice to be able to raise the ride height for those speed bumbs! Nice to see you break this down and looking forward to the other video.

  • @abhinavchinmai9890
    @abhinavchinmai9890 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    does it raise only through manual work or how?
    i mean only driver should press the button to raise the vehicle or how?

  • @Spinal2111
    @Spinal2111 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Generally curious, why would you still need shocks in addition to the air spring, wouldn't the ability to change the air pressure inside the membrane be able to do compensate for both?

    • @derkdude4
      @derkdude4 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You still need shocks to control the dampening, the air springs only replace the steel springs

  • @ebinbelji7381
    @ebinbelji7381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will it get punctured while going off-road if it hits something like sharp strong wood or something. ? What will happen if it gets leak or puncture ?

  • @aljazzizek7496
    @aljazzizek7496 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im wondering if he ever explained blow trough vs. draw trough induction system in cars ? if he didnt, that would be great :) peace.

  • @joesheehan5540
    @joesheehan5540 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about heating of the air as the suspension moves? would that affect the ride quality significantly?

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you asked! :) I'll be covering this in my next video on air springs.

  • @kennethhuber3658
    @kennethhuber3658 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way you explain things. You make it easy to understand. Being a liberal arts major I appreciate that. I talk up your channel whenever I can.

  • @thomasjohn5133
    @thomasjohn5133 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am just wondering. How do they increase pressure at a constant volume? Is the air heated?

    • @shi01
      @shi01 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just press air with an even higher pressure in?

    • @joshs6405
      @joshs6405 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +shi01 Yeah but the bag thing is expanding in order to lift the truck... Idk, I bet it just increases the volume of air

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Thomas John this only happens when you increase load on the vehicle (you increase pressure but maintain ride height). More weight means the car is pressed down. More weight means you do in fact increase volume, and pressure, but ride height returns to your target.

    • @shermengineering5730
      @shermengineering5730 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think him saying constant volume was a mistake - I would think the pressure would be increased by increasing the volume of compressed air from the reservoir.

  • @SkandaguruMusix
    @SkandaguruMusix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to identify the air release sounds between a air suspension and a air brake

  • @Imort-vb6yo
    @Imort-vb6yo ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is better cdc suspension or air suspension?

  • @ArxenZaonox
    @ArxenZaonox 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the air suspension only lift the body similar to a body lift or is it actually lifting the whole frame as a suspension lift would do?

    • @aryapradhanad186
      @aryapradhanad186 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      whole body for unibody, I don't know for ladder frame air suspension set up

  • @merigalhortussi7666
    @merigalhortussi7666 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it possible to add air suspensions to monocoque chasis

  • @GundamAngelicDevil
    @GundamAngelicDevil 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If one or more of these fails, do they have a fallback system so they don't just crash and sit on the base?

  • @KILO993
    @KILO993 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect timing as I'm looking at the RAM EcoDiesel with air suspension. I'm looking forward to the next part. As usual Great video!

  • @WhyteLis21
    @WhyteLis21 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    would air suspension become cheaper on the long once the cost comes down that is?

  • @kevinguabaco
    @kevinguabaco 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great, but with examples it would be much better if you would identify what we're looking at, like with the last example after the pros and cons

  • @aryapradhanad186
    @aryapradhanad186 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How high will air suspension be able to raise the vehicle? Over 100 mm?

  • @alexandertouchdown8737
    @alexandertouchdown8737 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the video, very informative.
    hydropneumatic suspension next? I'd love to understand my BX 💕💕

  • @1lilalain
    @1lilalain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent explanation..👍

  • @TheKEVIN3151
    @TheKEVIN3151 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love My 1997 Lincoln Town Car

    • @ChimneyFish
      @ChimneyFish 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. I regretfully did a spring conversion on one of mine. You definitely feel the difference and it's basically just a Crown Vic now. Handles great around turns but that's obviously not the point of the Lincoln. So glad to have a new TC with airbags again.

    • @man_on_wheelz
      @man_on_wheelz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You took the airbags out of your TC?!?! How dare you! I love the TC every year model of it! It's probably the most comfortable riding car I've ever driven. There are some Grand Marquis' with the air-ride rear suspension option too and they ride just as smoothly as a Town Car (as expected)

    • @ChimneyFish
      @ChimneyFish 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      MAN_ON_WHEELZ
      I know man I feel terrible about it. Had listened to too many people saying it wouldn't make a difference, easier, no more hassle, etc. HUGE mistake. And really most of the time all you need is new bags. Solenoids, lines, height adjustment, and compressor seem to hold up pretty well. I have 312k on the executive and everything else on it still worked.

    • @man_on_wheelz
      @man_on_wheelz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chimney Fish Oh man, yeah, never swap from air to coil. The air system isn't that complicated, its best to keep it as you've learned lol. You're taking some of the heart and soul out of it being a Lincoln.

  • @murillo.l4tc
    @murillo.l4tc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need your help. I have the 2013 Ram Longhorn and the right rear air bag keeps dropping and inflating randomly sometimes the whole trucks suspension drops and randomly inflates I dont know why? My question is could you have an explanation? If not do you know what I need to replace it with regular suspension and removing the air bags?.

  • @thegreatempire3882
    @thegreatempire3882 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So far I love the air suspension in my 2013 RAM 1500. It has the best ride quality when compared to the competition. Ford's is nice but it can be rough. GM is soft but isn't stiff enough. Toyota just needs to stand in the corner since its suspension is garbage when it comes to uneven pavement.
    Basically, when I was test driving a 2014 Tundra SR5 TRD the sale's man stated that the Tundra had the smoothest ride in its class. Which was true until the truck started bouncing over the paved road. It was the same section that I drove a RAM 1500 Big Horn over and it didn't even noticed the road imperfections with the coil springs.

  • @Mak12368
    @Mak12368 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man i was wondering what would happen if you downshift too soon or at redline. Does the car have computer system to protect the car. Is the car going to over rev and destroy it self. I am asking this question because i am about to buy a used paddle shift car. Thanks. Really love this channel.

    • @danesebruno
      @danesebruno 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cars with paddle shift (automatic gearbox) will not downshift if the revs are too high.
      So if your car is an auto with paddles, there is no way to over rev it.
      You'll be safe!

  • @fr3ddyfr3sh
    @fr3ddyfr3sh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In think adujsting the ride height of an air suspension is more comparable to preload adjustment of a steel spring.
    Because to increase the ride hight, you only increase the volume by putting more air in it, the pressure in the air spring will not increase.
    AND additionally an increased volume of an air spring, reduces it's spring rate!

  • @caribbeanman
    @caribbeanman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty sure I saw you in the Simpsons selling burgers

  • @stefanslater8342
    @stefanslater8342 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a video on why cars just randomly want to fly/ plan on making one?

  • @edwardpurkis1084
    @edwardpurkis1084 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video as allways. My mk2 Range Rover has the roling type on a closed system, with the pros you mentiond, self levling, 4 hights acsess, motorway, road and off road, it will also detect if highcentered and lift to max to get you over, the system makes the live axels and body on frame desigen very comftorbly to ride in, not bad for a 20 year old car. :)

  • @PS3Cooooooool
    @PS3Cooooooool 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you explain the hybrid system then? (Its air + Coil overs) companies like SCALE suspensions use this innovation

  • @rohithnair9249
    @rohithnair9249 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do mean by response time in suspension as meantioned in the video ?

  • @abhinav9561
    @abhinav9561 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would request you to upload a video describing drivetrain, gears, FWD, RWD etc for an electric car and why we don't need a gearbox for electric cars, just like the way you have done gas cars.

  • @user-ue7vb1bw1g
    @user-ue7vb1bw1g 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you make a video about rear electronic rack and pinion?

  • @jayaneyon9316
    @jayaneyon9316 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should do a video about air shox that hold oil. like the ones used in high level rock crawlers.

  • @rashaad93
    @rashaad93 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you know if the grand marquis has a system like this. I know I have had 2 so far and changed to coil springs. though the air bags are a bit better in my opinion.

  • @gauranshjuneja8855
    @gauranshjuneja8855 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you're putting more goods so will it require more air to be lifted every time u put the load?

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, more stuff in the bed means more air in the springs.

  • @borisdemelo
    @borisdemelo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do cars which change ride quality (soft vs stiff) use air pressure changes or is this something related to dampers?

    • @lockederbass90
      @lockederbass90 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      they use special dampers....some are filled with magnetic fluids, the more common ones just have valves wich adjust the oil pressure in the dampers.

  • @steveortez2613
    @steveortez2613 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve read that in cold weather the air ride option on the Ram 1500 failed and the dealer can’t figure out why

  • @garyvanremortel5218
    @garyvanremortel5218 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason, for BMWs with air springs, are there any considerations needed for hydraulic lifting where the wheels are unsupported?

  • @11jet1331
    @11jet1331 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So those bagged cars that you see with aftermarket systems, do those generally use a closed or open system? You can hear the pshh noise when it's actuating the airbags which would lead me to believe that it's open. Is that correct?

  • @evankaiser3109
    @evankaiser3109 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which type of air spring is in the 2500s?

  • @TheCassidyjoelpope
    @TheCassidyjoelpope 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a different max load weight with air vs springs?

  • @HarryVoyager
    @HarryVoyager 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    As I recall, didn't Citreon used to have a hydro-pneumatic suspension for a long time?