Wow. after a year and a half of not enjoying my RAM's full potential, all I had to do was enable Expo 1 from advanced settings rather than just enabling expo from the home screen. Thats fantastic
You saved me so much hassle. I wasn't too sure about what EXPO/DOCP would do and had to kept to auto on a 7800X3D with 32GB 6400 ram. It was extremely unstable and at times it would black/blue screen. I had only recently read about how 6000mhz was the sweet spot for Ryzen 7 chips and I guess I made the mistake of grabbing 6400 without too much research. Now set to DOCP I, 6400 but set it the value lower at 6000. It loaded much better and fingers cross it stays this way. Thank you so much!
we made the same heard the higher the better but well that was wrong i have 6400mhz gskill trident z and going from 5200 now higher until i spot issues and go down
Oh..This worked for my desktop. 7800x3D, 7900XT, Asus Tuf B650plus wifi, my ram listed in the QVL but couldn't load all the EXPOs(I, II and tweaked) it provided. It lead to the forever black screen and had to have the bios reset every time. I raised up the CAS latency by 2 so it made 32 from the 'EXPO I' load and lowered the clock to 5800 from 6000. Then, My computer started to boot up. I started to play game-The Division 2 with ultra options for all day. No issue so far. With the memory context restore and Power down enabled, the booting speed is 6sec. Thanks for your valuable information. Actually, your suggestion was my last resort. I almost gave up playing with ram over clock as the manufacturer's EXPOs didn't work which was listed in the QVL. Thanks again,.
Currently running a Asus Tuf B-650plus, Ryzen 7 7800x3D and gskill trident ram 7200mhz. It was on the QVL with serial number match on ASUS tried DOCP-1 booted but got constant blue screen Critical process died, disabled memory context restore and it’s been running on 7200mhz so far, thank you! If the error persists I’ll come back to this
Yo thanks man that was very useful. Thanks to your video with just a little bit more voltage i was able to hit my Rams standard timings AND have it boot up in less than three minutes
I Purchased Ryzen 7 7800x3d and pre ordered a Corsair Dominator Platinum 6200 Mhz CL36 to upgrade my Am4 system to Am5. but lately I discovered that the Ram I bought was for Intel, SKU: cmt32gx5m2x6200c36w Question is: Will it work? or what will happen if I combine these two? I hope to get answers from you! Big Thanks!
@@ronjezernunez3870 Have a look into your board QVL to see if the kit was tested. If its a non EXPO kit you will need to use XMP/DOCP profile. 6200 maybe a little too much but try it. The sweet spot for 7000 Ryzen is around 6000. If you can't achieve a stable system I would RMA the kit for a certified EXPO one. Good luck
I'm having a strange problem, every time I activate EXPO the videos play with the sound out of sync (onboard audio via HDMI). I have no system problem or blue screen, just slow boot which I fixed by disabling memory context restore. My RAM is not in the motherboard QVL, but it is EXPO and XMP compatible according to the manufacturer. I wrote to motherboard support reporting this problem and the explanation for a possible cause would be that this problem where the AM5 processors were being physically damaged was directly linked to the amount of voltage sent to the memories, which overloaded the DRAM module present in the CPU and damaged it. To solve the issue, AMD developed an AGESA update for the entire AM5 platform, which prevented this occurrence by not sending such a high voltage to the DRAMs (so as not to overload the CPUs). With this, the voltage for the RAM was limited to 1.3V. This solved the problem but had a direct impact on the functioning of RAM that need more voltage to work stably. Which is possibly the case with my RAM that seem to need 1.45V. Possibly, when enabling EXPO and the system is unable to send the 1.45V that the DRAMs originally need, the CPU may have a small systemic delay to process the setup's audio information since the DRAMs are the direct auxiliaries of everything that the CPU processes. I'm not sure if this is correct, I need to do some testing. I ended up on this video because I was searching to see if anyone else was having the same problem. My setup is new, it hasn't even been a month since I assembled it. - Ryzen 9 7900 - ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO - XPG LANCER RGB - 32GB (2x16GB) - 6000MHz - DDR5 - CL30
The idle is a bit high I must say, but if you are having 70C maximum while stress testing the CPU you are good to go! You even have margin to bump up performance with Curve Optimizer. PS: Curve Optimizer can drop the idle a bit but it will raise performance and maximum temps. Have a look at this short 😉 Don't forget to Like and Subscribe 😀 th-cam.com/users/shorts0iyja9yQ-tM?feature=share
Hello sir! I have Asus 650M-K, Ryzen 5 7500f and GSKILL FLARE 5 | (F5-6000J3636F16G) (32GB) 6000Mhz 36CL RAM. When I configured to 6000Mhz, sometimes the BIOS/Windows does not start(I cannot see anything on the monitor), sometimes it does, but when I reboot it does not turn on again. I thought it was fixed last time, but when I was working on the PC again, it suddenly showed a blue screen, gave 2 beeps, the windows and bios did not appear, then when I turned off the PC and turned it on, it reduced the RAM to 4800mhz automatically again and it started up automatically. Is there no solution to this problem? Will it be a problem if I try your guide?
I recently bought a cyberpower pc r5 7600 rx 7600 16gb ddr5 this came with expo enabled I have had driver timeouts since I got the pc I have done clean install of drivers and even tryed the pro drivers I read ware board doesn't even support 6000mhz ram so imma try turning expo off to see if I will still have issues any suggestions I also disabled mpo and ulps
Memory errors normally end on a BSOD, a driver time out can have other culprits. But yes, do try disabling EXPO and if all goes well, you need to fine tune the memory. Good luck
Saludos prende el traductor me has salvado la vida tenia unas 5600 oloy blade rbg cl36 compre unas gskills 6000 cl30 prendi todo bien prendo expo y sube la pruebo por una hora y todo bien el problema empieza cuando la apago para prenderla que no bootea o cuando iba a bootear daba pantallazo azul lo resolvi desactivando el memory contest restore tarda en bootear pero sube estable 0 problemass vine a comentar pq llevaba dias tratando de que funcionara graciass❤
Boas, comprei uma MSI B650 Thomahawk e 2x 16gb corsair EXPO e quando ativo o expo na bios o PC simplesmente não reinicia. Fiz load defaults na BIOS e já reiniciou, mas estou a correr as memorias a 4800MHz. Devo tentar esta solução ou 4800 é o suficiente?
Viva, verifica se as memórias que compraste estão no QVL da board. Pode acontecer não serem totalmente compatíveis. Aconteceu me o mesmo com corsair, tive que modificar timings e voltagens na minha anterior B450. Entretanto mudei para G.Skill. não só funcionaram desde o primeiro dia como estou a baixar os timings. Tenta seguir algumas das dicas do video que geralmente são suficientes para colocar alguns a funcionar. Como o MCR enabled. Boa sorte.
Hi, with my old 2700X and a corsair kit,to keep DOCP stable, I had to increase vSoC a little bit plus lowering the timings to 16-19-19-40. After that it was peachy. Thank You for the comment and don't forget to subscribe.
@@illufisch there should be on the board vendor site a Qualified Vendors List, which include which memory kits are fully supported. 7min 30 of the video.
I am Running T-Force Delta DDR5 6000mhz CL30 (4x16GB) on Asus X670E with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and I cant seem to get EXPO to run at any speed. Just will not boot. Is there any thing else I can try? If I disable it the pc boots and runs fine. I have latest chipset and drivers, bios as well.
I have an asus tuf x670e ryzen 7800x3d 2x32gb ram 6000 cl30. Can't get it to work in expo either, but i remember a video that may help you with 4x16. "How to get 4 Sticks of DDR5 to work on AM5 | 6000mhz CL30 Manual Timings using AMD Ryzen 9 7950X" I hope it helps if you haven't got it working now
I've got a x670e-a and 7 7800x3d with two 16g ram 6400 corsair dominator and I've If i turn it on my pc doesn't run but I've manually turned my ram to 6000 and my machine is fine just don't get why if I turn it on my pc doesn't post
I'm sorry to hear that you had to lower the speed of it. Have you tried disabling Memory Context Restore like I said in the video? Worth a shot even if the long boot times can be a pain. Thank You for the comment
@@LocalIT yes i tried nothing changed. I have cl30 Corsair 6000mhz. I tested ram, there is no production error. Using it with ryzen 7900 and asus b650e-f. Sometimes i face with sudden windows crashes. Maybe w11 compability issue.
@@CharlieLiuPhotography I'm sorry to hear that too. Many people are still facing issues with EXPO, that is why I did the vídeo, to help some at least. I would try other BIOS versions as well or messing even more the timings. But sometimes, the CPU integrated memory controller is really bad that I would consider RMA. Thank you for the Feedback.
Oh, An RoG B650 F version. Latest BIOS releases haven't been nice. I would try older BIOS versions if possible. I'm still using an old BIOS just because EXPO is running so smooth that I won't risk updating.
Sure, Curve Optimizer will lower average temperature of your CPU but can produce temperature spikes. Example, you have a normal idle/browsing/gaming average of 40/50/60, after curve optimizer you can get a couple of Celsius lower. But since PBO relies on some limits, like temperature, PBO will try try to boost longer because average temps are lower. When boosting, there will be some temperature spikes. Performance will be generally better too. Make sure you have a good cooling solution, watercoolers are great because they can absorb more heat than tower coolers. Not all CPUs are silicon winners, I cant do - 30 all core but you can start low like - 5 all core then check stability if all is good go for - 10
ok thanks for the answer, i have a deepcool ak620 and the temperature does not exceed 70 degrees in a game (ryzen 7800x3D with expo II), i would like to know if i am supposed to undervolt my processor or it's just an option
Sorry for the delay. Its an option, but a good option. It will lower the CPU temperatures a bit during GPU intensive games. Always had my CPU's undervolted. ;) The downside is, too much undervolt and may cause some instability and crashes.
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Wow. after a year and a half of not enjoying my RAM's full potential, all I had to do was enable Expo 1 from advanced settings rather than just enabling expo from the home screen. Thats fantastic
You saved me so much hassle. I wasn't too sure about what EXPO/DOCP would do and had to kept to auto on a 7800X3D with 32GB 6400 ram. It was extremely unstable and at times it would black/blue screen. I had only recently read about how 6000mhz was the sweet spot for Ryzen 7 chips and I guess I made the mistake of grabbing 6400 without too much research. Now set to DOCP I, 6400 but set it the value lower at 6000. It loaded much better and fingers cross it stays this way. Thank you so much!
I'm so glad I could help. Thank you for the comment.
we made the same heard the higher the better but well that was wrong i have 6400mhz gskill trident z and going from 5200 now higher until i spot issues and go down
man you're a genius. i couldn't get rid of this issue with double RAM just not booting OS or blue screens, now everything works perfectly thanks a lot
So glad I could help.
Oh..This worked for my desktop. 7800x3D, 7900XT, Asus Tuf B650plus wifi, my ram listed in the QVL but couldn't load all the EXPOs(I, II and tweaked) it provided. It lead to the forever black screen and had to have the bios reset every time. I raised up the CAS latency by 2 so it made 32 from the 'EXPO I' load and lowered the clock to 5800 from 6000. Then, My computer started to boot up. I started to play game-The Division 2 with ultra options for all day. No issue so far. With the memory context restore and Power down enabled, the booting speed is 6sec. Thanks for your valuable information. Actually, your suggestion was my last resort. I almost gave up playing with ram over clock as the manufacturer's EXPOs didn't work which was listed in the QVL. Thanks again,.
Thank you for the kind reply!
Currently running a Asus Tuf B-650plus, Ryzen 7 7800x3D and gskill trident ram 7200mhz. It was on the QVL with serial number match on ASUS tried DOCP-1 booted but got constant blue screen Critical process died, disabled memory context restore and it’s been running on 7200mhz so far, thank you! If the error persists I’ll come back to this
7200? That is awesome!
Thank you for this very helpful video.
Yo thanks man that was very useful. Thanks to your video with just a little bit more voltage i was able to hit my Rams standard timings AND have it boot up in less than three minutes
Glad I could help 😉
@@LocalIT certainly! Keep it up my guy!
I Purchased Ryzen 7 7800x3d and pre ordered a Corsair Dominator Platinum 6200 Mhz CL36 to upgrade my Am4 system to Am5. but lately I discovered that the Ram I bought was for Intel, SKU: cmt32gx5m2x6200c36w
Question is: Will it work?
or what will happen if I combine these two?
I hope to get answers from you! Big Thanks!
@@ronjezernunez3870 Have a look into your board QVL to see if the kit was tested. If its a non EXPO kit you will need to use XMP/DOCP profile. 6200 maybe a little too much but try it. The sweet spot for 7000 Ryzen is around 6000. If you can't achieve a stable system I would RMA the kit for a certified EXPO one.
Good luck
Thank god for this video! Expo wasn’t stable even with very low clock speeds! Thanks to you I changed the cl timing a little bit and now it works!
I'm happy I could help. Its becoming very frequent, even in my older system I had to do it. Thank you and don't forget to subscribe.😉
I'm having a strange problem, every time I activate EXPO the videos play with the sound out of sync (onboard audio via HDMI). I have no system problem or blue screen, just slow boot which I fixed by disabling memory context restore. My RAM is not in the motherboard QVL, but it is EXPO and XMP compatible according to the manufacturer.
I wrote to motherboard support reporting this problem and the explanation for a possible cause would be that this problem where the AM5 processors were being physically damaged was directly linked to the amount of voltage sent to the memories, which overloaded the DRAM module present in the CPU and damaged it. To solve the issue, AMD developed an AGESA update for the entire AM5 platform, which prevented this occurrence by not sending such a high voltage to the DRAMs (so as not to overload the CPUs). With this, the voltage for the RAM was limited to 1.3V.
This solved the problem but had a direct impact on the functioning of RAM that need more voltage to work stably. Which is possibly the case with my RAM that seem to need 1.45V.
Possibly, when enabling EXPO and the system is unable to send the 1.45V that the DRAMs originally need, the CPU may have a small systemic delay to process the setup's audio information since the DRAMs are the direct auxiliaries of everything that the CPU processes.
I'm not sure if this is correct, I need to do some testing. I ended up on this video because I was searching to see if anyone else was having the same problem.
My setup is new, it hasn't even been a month since I assembled it.
- Ryzen 9 7900
- ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO
- XPG LANCER RGB - 32GB (2x16GB) - 6000MHz - DDR5 - CL30
will these settings low 7700x idle temps? im having 58-60c idle, with some spikes to 70c, on a Noctua NH-D15 with 4 Bequiet 120mm fan. is this normal?
The idle is a bit high I must say, but if you are having 70C maximum while stress testing the CPU you are good to go!
You even have margin to bump up performance with Curve Optimizer.
PS: Curve Optimizer can drop the idle a bit but it will raise performance and maximum temps.
Have a look at this short 😉 Don't forget to Like and Subscribe 😀
th-cam.com/users/shorts0iyja9yQ-tM?feature=share
Hello sir! I have Asus 650M-K, Ryzen 5 7500f and GSKILL FLARE 5 | (F5-6000J3636F16G) (32GB) 6000Mhz 36CL RAM. When I configured to 6000Mhz, sometimes the BIOS/Windows does not start(I cannot see anything on the monitor), sometimes it does, but when I reboot it does not turn on again. I thought it was fixed last time, but when I was working on the PC again, it suddenly showed a blue screen, gave 2 beeps, the windows and bios did not appear, then when I turned off the PC and turned it on, it reduced the RAM to 4800mhz automatically again and it started up automatically. Is there no solution to this problem? Will it be a problem if I try your guide?
Do you have any solution?
@@iamvyanky I enabled "Memory context restore " and "power down enabled" on BIOS. It has worked for me.
I recently bought a cyberpower pc r5 7600 rx 7600 16gb ddr5 this came with expo enabled I have had driver timeouts since I got the pc I have done clean install of drivers and even tryed the pro drivers I read ware board doesn't even support 6000mhz ram so imma try turning expo off to see if I will still have issues any suggestions I also disabled mpo and ulps
Memory errors normally end on a BSOD, a driver time out can have other culprits. But yes, do try disabling EXPO and if all goes well, you need to fine tune the memory. Good luck
Saludos prende el traductor me has salvado la vida tenia unas 5600 oloy blade rbg cl36 compre unas gskills 6000 cl30 prendi todo bien prendo expo y sube la pruebo por una hora y todo bien el problema empieza cuando la apago para prenderla que no bootea o cuando iba a bootear daba pantallazo azul lo resolvi desactivando el memory contest restore tarda en bootear pero sube estable 0 problemass vine a comentar pq llevaba dias tratando de que funcionara graciass❤
Boas, comprei uma MSI B650 Thomahawk e 2x 16gb corsair EXPO e quando ativo o expo na bios o PC simplesmente não reinicia. Fiz load defaults na BIOS e já reiniciou, mas estou a correr as memorias a 4800MHz. Devo tentar esta solução ou 4800 é o suficiente?
Viva, verifica se as memórias que compraste estão no QVL da board. Pode acontecer não serem totalmente compatíveis. Aconteceu me o mesmo com corsair, tive que modificar timings e voltagens na minha anterior B450. Entretanto mudei para G.Skill. não só funcionaram desde o primeiro dia como estou a baixar os timings.
Tenta seguir algumas das dicas do video que geralmente são suficientes para colocar alguns a funcionar. Como o MCR enabled. Boa sorte.
yea i have Blackscreens and random restarts with DOCP. Guess ill have to tweak it manually
Hi, with my old 2700X and a corsair kit,to keep DOCP stable, I had to increase vSoC a little bit plus lowering the timings to 16-19-19-40. After that it was peachy. Thank You for the comment and don't forget to subscribe.
I have DDR5 it seems that it has some problems
@@LocalIT
@@illufisch vSoC is not amazingly good to increase on AM5 CPUs. Is the memory kit on the QVL?
QVL?@@LocalIT
@@illufisch there should be on the board vendor site a Qualified Vendors List, which include which memory kits are fully supported. 7min 30 of the video.
I am Running T-Force Delta DDR5 6000mhz CL30 (4x16GB) on Asus X670E with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and I cant seem to get EXPO to run at any speed. Just will not boot. Is there any thing else I can try? If I disable it the pc boots and runs fine. I have latest chipset and drivers, bios as well.
I have an asus tuf x670e ryzen 7800x3d 2x32gb ram 6000 cl30.
Can't get it to work in expo either, but i remember a video that may help you with 4x16.
"How to get 4 Sticks of DDR5 to work on AM5 | 6000mhz CL30 Manual Timings using AMD Ryzen 9 7950X"
I hope it helps if you haven't got it working now
I've got a x670e-a and 7 7800x3d with two 16g ram 6400 corsair dominator and I've If i turn it on my pc doesn't run but I've manually turned my ram to 6000 and my machine is fine just don't get why if I turn it on my pc doesn't post
My gskill is on the list. Not working with expo until I lover it to 5600... Leave it there of send it back?
Hi, have you enabled MCR?
@@LocalIT no, just default bios with expo. I think it's off by default. Hm I think it's auto by default. Let me try this!
@@LocalIT did some more tweaking. Got it running at 5800 expo2 with some more voltage. I'm happy with that!
@@wboumans Did you raised vSoC or VDDQ?
@@LocalIT both the dram voltages
Expo is not stable. Using at 5200 mhz.
I'm sorry to hear that you had to lower the speed of it. Have you tried disabling Memory Context Restore like I said in the video? Worth a shot even if the long boot times can be a pain.
Thank You for the comment
@@LocalIT yes i tried nothing changed. I have cl30 Corsair 6000mhz. I tested ram, there is no production error. Using it with ryzen 7900 and asus b650e-f. Sometimes i face with sudden windows crashes. Maybe w11 compability issue.
Didn't work for me either. Meh
@@CharlieLiuPhotography I'm sorry to hear that too. Many people are still facing issues with EXPO, that is why I did the vídeo, to help some at least. I would try other BIOS versions as well or messing even more the timings. But sometimes, the CPU integrated memory controller is really bad that I would consider RMA.
Thank you for the Feedback.
EXPO 1 and 2 refuse to post. I guess im stuck with 4800 :/
Hi, is the memory stick on the QVL?
@LocalIT HI, yes it is, F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR on a ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI. Thanks for responding!
Oh, An RoG B650 F version. Latest BIOS releases haven't been nice. I would try older BIOS versions if possible. I'm still using an old BIOS just because EXPO is running so smooth that I won't risk updating.
@@LocalIT Thanks for the tip! I'll try that
I am also facing the same issue. Using the latest bios 1807. Any updates from you?@@JohnPloskina
Still waiting for curve optimizer video 😅
Still learning and writing the script. But if you need any help right now just shout 😉
@@LocalIT ok i have a question does the curve optimizer reduce the temperature of the processor? Also with a performance boost?
Sure, Curve Optimizer will lower average temperature of your CPU but can produce temperature spikes.
Example, you have a normal idle/browsing/gaming average of 40/50/60, after curve optimizer you can get a couple of Celsius lower. But since PBO relies on some limits, like temperature, PBO will try try to boost longer because average temps are lower.
When boosting, there will be some temperature spikes. Performance will be generally better too.
Make sure you have a good cooling solution, watercoolers are great because they can absorb more heat than tower coolers.
Not all CPUs are silicon winners, I cant do - 30 all core but you can start low like - 5 all core then check stability if all is good go for - 10
ok thanks for the answer, i have a deepcool ak620 and the temperature does not exceed 70 degrees in a game (ryzen 7800x3D with expo II), i would like to know if i am supposed to undervolt my processor or it's just an option
Sorry for the delay. Its an option, but a good option. It will lower the CPU temperatures a bit during GPU intensive games. Always had my CPU's undervolted. ;) The downside is, too much undervolt and may cause some instability and crashes.
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