Sorry but you forgot to show us what was an actual performance drop by scrolling to hwinfo cpu tab where it shows frequency and core multiplyers. In my short experience, curve optimizer is already enough to make cpu go faster and cooler due to more thermal headroom. Its basically an undervolt as if its were a gpu.
thanks for the great video..... I've got a 7600x and B650e-f and I recently enabled PBO and set it to 'Enhancement' and then 'Level 2 - 80c' and my PC wouldn't boot/BsoD windows repair. It booted again when I cleared the settings. The only other setting I have changed prior to this is the DDR to 6000mhz in EXPO1, which is stable. Did my PC not boot because I didn't change the 'curve optimizer' as well? I'm a bit nervous to try again as I don't want to corrupt my Win11 Install / Nvme Drive. You mention the 'sweet spot' in the curve, I'm not really sure what that means. What does 30/15 etc relate to? Sorry for the questions, Thank you
This was greatly helpful. Im running a 7700x and a MSI Mobo. I was watching YT videos and my CPU would start ramping up to 67 degrees celsius with my fans ramping up loudly. After doing this im running constantly around 40 C with quiet fans. Much appreciated.
Definitely do this people.. it will drastically reduce fan noise, and also help keep your other components cooler, Definitely worth losing a couple % in performance
@@gontzalcaig That may depend on the "silicon lottery"; exceptional parts could perform better even undervolted, while bad parts could perform worse. But either way it's a good idea. Save power and extend the lifespan of your parts, take the few % hit if necessary.
With my 7600x a negative 30 offset alone brought the cpu temps down 10°C and my cinebench and 3d mark results got better too. The best thing is though that when i open games like Cyberpunk or Metro Exodus now, my fans don't ramp up for a short time as high as before, its really pleasent now. Thanks for making this video!
thank you for mentioning to low the Curve Optimizer at 25,20 and below if we have problem with windows, i actually did at 30,25 and 20, but at 15 everything works fine now
You should also decrease SoC voltage, 1.35V is way too much. Based on my vast experience with a total number of two Ryzen 7xxx CPUs, going as low as 1.15V is pretty much risk free (with EXPO enabled), while reducing uncore power to a significant degree. This way you get lower idle consumption (and temps) and "more power" for CCDs (if TDP is what limits you, which will be the case for all non-X CPUs running more than two-three cores at full load).
I'm thinking of buying the x670e aorus master with 7700x. Is the issue of VSOC voltage resolved with the new bios revisions in Gigabyte? I couldn't find anything on this topic neither on Reddit nor Buildzoid's videos. Thanks in advance for answering.
I have the exact settings from the video copied apart from setting the curve optimiser from 30 to 20 because I think that it is stable. I am running an AMD Ryzen 5 7600x and have lowered the SoC voltage to 1.15v. However, my PC runs fine, it's just once or twice, I do encounter application crashes. I don't know what to change to prevent this? Either increase/decrease my voltage or increase/decrease the curve optimiser? Other than that, I definitely do recommend people to do this as overall temp lower, power consumption lower and in some cases performance increases. This has happened to me in my case with my CPU.
@@isxmiyulll this is how I do it - it might take couple of days, but it's necessary if you want your system stable: 1. BIOS settings to default, restart 2. Upgrade BIOS to latest 3. BIOS settings to default, restart 4. Enable EXPO, boot to windows, run OCCT stress test (1h CPU, 1h RAM), or equivalent. If there are errors, there's problem with RAM modules. 5. Decrease SoC voltage and stress test, until you find stable minimum 6. (optional) Decrease VDD IO and run memory stress test - the difference here isn't huge and some boards (MSI latest bios) don't even allow this, when I forced it via ryzen master, I ran into issues. 7. Increase negative Curve Optimizer value and test for CPU stability. You might want to use varying load at 1-2 cores so they're pushed to the max. Stable minimums will depend on multiple factors, so it's hard to recommend specific values. I don't recommend using "memory context restore", though. It makes boot almost instant, but it might impact stability quite significantly.
THANK YOU! I usually dont comment alot but my temps went from 95C when trying to run a specific game down to 60C! Anyone with a AMD 7700X consider this before making any hardware changes. I almost bought an AIO cooler thinking that my PC was running too hot!
Yo bro this is what I’m literally going through right now , I stream & play warzone but my cpu hits 95c which makes my whole pc run hot ash & I keep lagging & dropping fps , I know it’s my cpu cuz that the only thang heating up , my gpu stays 65 or less so idk what to do ?
How did you do it brother , I need help , I stream & play warzone but I hit 95 idk if I need a new cpu cooler or just do this but I don’t wanna lose performance
With a 7900x my score at first was 25k but the temps where also at 95C the limit. After doing the steps here It went to 24.5k, but the temps dropped dramatically all the way to 55-60C!
@@Daveed2407 I'm planning to do the same for my 7900x, but noticed that hes running a 7700x. Did you ever find the right settings to prevent the blue screen while booting?
It worked very fine! I played around a little bit and set it on PBO 30 with the PPT limit on 100 watts (7700x). Now i got smooth 69C with the AiO (Arctic Freezer 3 - 240) set on 27%. Its so quiet and cool. Lovely! Cinebench R23 score is 19241 (90 watts was 18894 and stock was 19160) Thanks a lot!
After changing silicon paste several times and being disappointed with 95 degree temperature, this tutorial helped me to reach 75 degree temperature at peak load.. r5 7600x processor and prime b650m-k motherboard... I did according to the video, but I changed the ppt to 95.. Now I am on frequency 5.4 and the temperature is very good.. Thank you❤️
i hate how comapnies say “that is normal”. in the car word manufactures will say 1 quart of oil per 1k miles is “normal” just so that they can get away with the flawed design behind low friction piston rings. Then a true solution arises and they try to spin the change in their favor.
Thank you so much! i'm using ryzen 5 7600(non x) and my temp was rising to 75-80 ° during cpu intensive games like cyberpunk and battlefield 2042.after doing this i'm getting 55-60 ° with almost the same performance
Your comment was made 6 months ago. I am using the same processor. I am also considering implementing it. Have you experienced any performance degradation or unexpected problems with your system so far?
Had the same issue with my 8600g, my cinebench went to 89ºC, so I used to disable turbo to bring down temps. But that cost me a good chunk of performance. Thanks to this video my temps are lower and I'm able to use turbo mode again, thank you very much
Thanks for the video. On looking at the hardware info voltages your soc voltage is 1.35. With the recent reports of burnt cpu's would be better to reduce this down manually to 1.25 or put a newer bios version on to hard lock it at 1.30v. Thanks man.
Anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe. Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with. What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.
@@Forty2de when mining monero what would be the ideal undervolt? i want to get maximum efficiency where i mine with the least amount of power consumption. how do i do that on a gigabyte motherboard? there are no guides on the internet so i dont know how to do this. im new to these things and has zero experience with gigabyte motherboards
The 7600x are designed to work at 95C and then it throttles its performance according to how good cooling you provide it with. Misunderstood reaction to a non existing problem. You might get some extra performance by a bit undervoltage.
Great stuff, I readjusted with cpu 5800x3D -- temps max is 10 degree lower and 3Dmark rezults for Time Spy -- on cpu 500 score higher ! From 9800 to 10300 ! and temps to be excat from 92 to 82.4
Thanks. I built my 7600x new PC yesterday, I was frightened to see that at only 50% load, the temperature instantly went up to 80+° , even with a quite good Assassin 120 SE. resulting in lots of noise from the cpu fan!
U can use fan speed software and adjust ur fan speed to reasonable speed cause ryzen 7 has a normal high temperature, it was meant to be like that but ur pc wont think it normal so u gotta adjust the fan
Putting maximum processor state in windows power plan to 99% instead of 100% will largely reduce termals on CPU, and a bit of performance. r7 7800xd3 went from 84C to 55-65C under load with this simple change. It is also worth mentioning that UE 5 likes to push amd products beyond it's limits, going over 100C on both CPU and GPU. You have to limit it.
Please consider making a very detailed video on updating BIOS. This video was awesome, and I know there are loads of people like me who are totally lost when it comes to this. A detailed, step by step video would be extremely helpful! Asus new bios release says something about using bios renamer? I'm already lost there.
Format a flash drive Download your EXACT motherboards BIOS. Make sure it’s also the correct version of the board. Extract the bios download and copy and paste only the main file (about 30mb in size usually) to the formatted flash drive. Plug that flash drive into a USB port and boot into BIOS. Find the BIOS flash option and then select that 30mb file and proceed with update. Make sure to not mess with the pc during update until it states it completed. Usually about 1-3mins to update. Then reboot into BIOS page and check to see if the newer version is installed.
I went from 85 degrees to stable 55 degrees, but there was a dramatic performance reduction. I really don't see how this would be useful at all because you might as well get a less powerful chip instead of just decreasing performance like this.
@@soumyachatterjee2603sometimes it is cheaper and you don’t need the cooler if you’re going aftermarket, plus results may vary and every user’s needs are different, especially if you’re building for someone else and not yourself. My two cents tho.
People should know that anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe. Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with. What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.
what is "throttling" exactly? also im using the 7700 and boy this thing loves to go straight to 90 when i do any gaming or downloading at all and i have no idea why, it usually mellows out around 85 after a while but im not sure why it does this
@@The_Panda62 90 is nothing. It's design to run in beast mode every chance it gets. I don't think these CPUs can thermal throttle by design. I did a manual oc and it just shut off when I accidentally let it over heat at 105c. Clocks never throttle, just shut off.
@@The_Panda62 so change your fan curve, also if your gpu is running open air cooling having better case flow could help or setting a custom fan curve on the gpu to help keep temps down a bit. the cpu is not that power hungry to need lots of cooling. its just auto boosting to give the best performance. you could also set the cpu to eco mode and it would reduce temps / fan noise.
@pwningpanda3826 uses fan speed software and adjusts its curve to ur liking. the sudden fan noise is due to ur computer thinking the 70c on ur cpu is bad and it need to run it in high speed fan but in reality 70c to 80c is normal for ryzen 7 when gaming to transferring file to installing game etc etc
Just finished my new build with a 7600X and damn does it run hot! It likes to spike a ton and it has plenty of thermal paste. I am seriously about to send this air cooler back and get an AIO to help bring the noise down.
Great stuff! I had issues using Ryzen master but this way seems to be stable so far. Using a 7600X with a noctua nhd15 I'm maxing out at 67°C during a R23 all core test.
I've changed my settings of my 7600X exactly to the example in this video, and it's stable after 2 hours of prime95. The temp went from 95 to 60 under stress, but the CPU benchmark score went from 10.5k to 8.5k. Which setting does affect performance the most? I want to crank up the performance to around stock level..
X670e tomahawk mobo Thermalright Frozen Prism 360 Black Liquid Cooler r7 7700x went from 127w-87.165w, max temp 89c-64c, bench score 1108 4th on cpu list very happy tyvm
@altiboxtv9570 try finding a video on TH-cam. Basically you can dial down the system clock 5% or so and drop the voltage on the CPU 5-10%, also the memory voltage a few percent. You dial down and then test for stability, maybe run Cinebench for 10 minutes and see if it's stable. With the clock speed and voltages reduced you may get a 20% decrease in power for a small reduction in clock speed
I'm glad I watched this. I'm selecting components to build a robust mid-range gaming system and was considering AMD for my CPU, currently I'm running an i5-4590 with a Radeon HD 7900 graphics card and the temperature is 31° C... according to Crystal Disk 8. A lot has changed in ten years and the learning curve is steep... but now I have the time to research.
The people that have problems will never tell you, what they are bios setting or how they are cooling the CPU. 1 guy is running ram at 6200 so the soc is running at 1.45 volts all the time on the old Bios. The new bios runs the soc at 1.3 volts at max
I think one can get more optimal results tinning negative voltage by core. -30 on all cores might not work for all. And one should run a battery of tests before assuming a tune is stable. On my 7900X, curve optimizer values vary from 0 to -20 depending on cores. That with eco mode +10% gives me a lot of performance never getting overly hot.
make sure you get a good cooler and update the BIOS as soon as you can. i heard stories of peopIe frying their CPUs, especially the ones with the X3Ds. even my low end 7600 can get quite hot for some strange reason. RAM instability is also a common issue. my motherboard had the old 2022 BIOS. freezing and crashing stopped after i updated BIOS
This is awesome video, Thank-you. I was running my 7950X on 105 ECO and it worked grate, but your way boosts my clocks higher with the same power and temps are 70s. I'm curious, I see you running Asus Strix B650E-I, do you still have that board and how is it doing. I was thinking on getting one for my next ITX build. Thank you
I've never had problems with high CPU temperatures, but I did have an old Dell Latitude laptop that did get very warm, unusually hot, even when only doing basic tasks. I found out it's cpu thermal paste had gotten pretty dry, maybe it needed a thermal repaste. I don't have experience doing that sort of thing though.
I have extensive experience doing that sort of thing having worked in a computer repair shop for 7 years. Avoid it if you don't know what you're doing as you can cause more harm than good.
@@technoWZ5598 Well, usually the whole laptop has to come apart and depending upon the orientation of the board the board may have to come out. From there it's usually about 4 screws that hold in the heatsink. You pop them out and apply a pea sized amount of quality thermal compound and spread it out with a credit card over the surface of the chip then tighten the screws back up. Here's where a lot of people screw up-they apply too much torque on the screws. All that does is cause the sink to bend and squeeze out the paste. Just tighten to slightly over finger tightness in a star pattern and you're done. Eventually your Dell will overheat without fresh thermal compound-at the very least the longevity of the device will be shortened due to the heat and performance affected. Heat creates entropy in the system which results in performance degradation. But Latitudes are old and no longer produced I believe so your best bet is to buy another laptop anyways. Yep.
My 7800x3D idles around 43-48c when I game it goes up to 63c to 82c is that normal? I haven’t use the steps in this video yet. My gpu stays around 48-54c.. Edit: I tried this and now my pc idles at 34-44 degrees and GPU stays at 34 idle after doing some tweaks to the gpu as well. Now gaming my max is ~50-77 degrees and the clock speed stays at 5GHz in all cores now for some reason! So this is very nice
Thanks for this video i tried doing a negative 30 on my 7700xand it worked first try. I'm playing bf2042 and in 128 player maps i was getting a temp of 84-85 and now it stays around 70-73. In baldurs gate 3 and cyberpunk I'm seeing about a 15c drop as well. My cinebench 2024 score also went from 1062 to 1104. I'm using a peerless assassin for my cooler.
@@joelkaufmann1601 I just set the curve to negative 30 like he did and that's it. I tried setting it to eco mode but it caused noticable fps drop in bf2042 conquest 128 player
7800x3d... checked my temp while gaming 59C.. and i only have 1 case fan so far because i've been too lazy to put the others in. Cheapest possible air cooler i could find for the CPU btw ( Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2, like 32 euro / 32 usd)
yeah i dun get it, I'm running the same 7700x he is and temps under heavy load push 78-79 degrees C with no knee-capping. I'm running a cheap 360 rad but I guess it's working.
To make sure the curve optimizer won't make the system unstable, i suggest using the auto curve optimizer in ryzen master and put the result in the bios.
@@altiboxtv9570hit delete on startup to enter bios. There should be a fan optimizer option that'll do it for you automatically. Then toggle your curve manually from there if you wish.
It worked thank u, but my cinebench points are lower at max my cpu is at 95C but only get 17900 points and after I did the settings at 70-85C I only get 16900 points. I’m using 7700x as well
I did this for my new build, ASUS B650E-F with 7700X, and it ran okay for about a week, then my ASUS B650E-F motherboard starting getting BIOS boot failures (CPU and VGA lights on). Turned the power off and restarted and it passed the BIOS successfully, but then failed the same way on the next reboot. Changed the setting back to the way they were and NO more BIOS problems. No thanks. Funky.
Guys modern cpus don't work like old ones. They are designed to run like this, when they get close to 95 they cool off by letting you use less power etc. It's fine, so just let them run like they are designed, you're just adding trouble to something thats not an issue.
145w to 87w, or 66% more power consumption for only 3,5% more points on cinebench. 100% worth controlling those temperatures. And most likely longer life.
I just disabled Precision Boost Overdrive. It doesn't make a huge difference in performance, but keeps the CPU cool and stop the fan speed thrashing up and down..
I don't care about the temperature, but Incare about the power consumption. Great video. I would have appreciated a more in depths explanation on what the settings actually do, but it was good enough and i can just use Google.
Easiest is to bump the amps and wattage in the eco from 65W to 80W, for a total of 105W (vs the stock 105W with a real usage of ~150W). The temp limit sometimes don't work, and still will allow the CPU to do above the set limit.
Curve ball, but that first run, within 5k on cinebench of that w-3265m - 24 cores and hyper threaded, and only 4 ish years old, AMD are absolutely smashing it
I always reduce the voltage on my Ryzen processors. It makes little difference in day to day business operations. I do Audio, video editing and I also am a programmer and gamer.
My 7700x cant handle -30 it is almost stable at -10 and my temps are not going down it is still 75 degrees at desktop and at cinebench i get 18300 point with 95 degrees with -10
19k in Cinebench on factory defaults? My 14700k with -0.015V undervolting and cutting all boost power from 253/135 watts to 110/110 and all core boost ratios from x55/56 to x40 making 26000 in Cinebench with temperature not over 65-68 degrees Celsius. And it was 30400 on default settings.
I have a 7950x, I did this with optimizer curve -40 and PPT 85w and the temp is 48°c in cinebench 2024 and 1722 pts in multicore, idle is 31watts of ppt
Cookbook approach with no explanation of WHY doing these things would help (or why you should apply these limits rather than any other of the vast range of limits available through the BIOS).
I have a 7800X3D and a NZXT Kraken 360 Elite aio cooler. Using stock thermal paste that came on the aio, my temps are 40-50 idle, and 45-65 while gaming. Under a hour stress test in OCCT at 100% load, highest temp I saw on the CPU was 78C. Is this considered good?
ok.. what happened here is you changed the settings and now 7700x has frequencies like his slower brother 7700. Its 336€ vs 354€.. is it not better to buy the 7700??
Конечно лучше. Если вы готовы экспериментировать, имеете хорошую систему охлаждения(очень хорошую), то берите 7700x. Если хотите меньше температуру взамен производительности, то смотрите в сторону менее производительных и более холодных процессоров
7800 x3d cooling under an air Assassin 120 cooler E, single fan. On a cool morning such as today 8/3/2024 sits at 47.5 C, a hot afternoon (95) sits at 51.3 C - 55.4 C. Seems normal under air cooled set up.
I went on full PBO manual and set up -30 on the 2 preferred cores (noted them in Ryzen master) and -22 on all other cores because full all cores -30 was not full stable. You can also limit downwards vour VDD Core voltage to ease on the CPU (1.20v instead of 1.3v auto) on my silicon piece. Thank's.
Well I set this to 40 and to my surprise system works fine ran a cinebench23 30 min stress test with a result of 19300approx while on stock it was around 19700 other settings I did was i set the power draw to 115watts and temperature limit to 85. I am running a ML240 cooler from Colermaster , Oh yeah boost clock goes to 5.1ghz and stablizes around 5.06ghz
On the curve optimiser, you said some people can get away with - 30. When I run ryzen master curve optimiser it sets mine to - 50 after it's 30min test. I get a max boost just shy of 5.5ghz. Is that good? This is my first build since the fx days. I have a 7600x currently.
I have a 7600x that I have the PBO offset set to 80 and the max temp at 80C, it draws 65w usually. Bought it when they were new and have been running it like this for almost a year now.
I set mine to the same but I don't seem to get reduced temps, it just limits it to the 85 on load. Strange, I guess theres something I'm not understanding
Not until I was 49 in 2007 did I finally Cave in and bought my first Acer laptop with Vista preinstalled and the books I read. At that time I was inundated with PC Nerds insisting XP was better and even into when Windows 7 first came out. That being said, Does start menu x include a windows 11 default option? Thanks for right click context menu but again, how do I go back to the default context menu if I want to stay in practice? I always recommend people should watch your videos if they want to improve after purchasing Windows 11.
Hello there i have a 7800x3d and on Tcl and Cpu die am getting on maximum 89temps sometimes and the current is 79 and 76 when i play pubg on 2k is it good i also undervolt the cpu
My cpu runs 71,6 Celsius using cinebench with an air cooler (Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO) out of the box. Should I still make the bios changes?
Same cpu, same settings. In cinebench, cpu never went past 59c. In helldivers 2, cpu went up to 69c. Considering it was going up to 90+, pretty good improvement.
From someone who makes guides, you should install your AiO properly. Right now you have all the air at the top of the reservoir by the hoses which makes the system run hotter. Hoses down!
"7000 series" is pretty vague. My 7800X3D never goes above 63 (core) / 75 (package) Celsius even under full load (8 cores maxed out, running at around 4800 MHz), and is typically 35 to 45 ºC when idle. That's with a PWM cooler / case fans, so idle could be even lower (it's just that the motherboard is hardly bothering to spin the fans at that point).
@@TheTroll-fj7wg - Full load, 3D rendering with Vray or Maxon, 75 ºC. If yours is getting hotter, maybe your cooler just isn't keeping up. Also, the 7800X3D's Tj max is 89 ºC, so you should never see 95 ºC, period. It will lower its own speed automatically to stay under 89 ºC.
Hey everyone , I have watched 50+ videos re arranging bios settings and tried many softwares but nothing worked for the past 3 weeks as i person who has received a new pc i was worried but after wasting my time on all of these videos , I went to my guy who build my pc and he changed the orientation of my cpu cooler fan. My cpu on idle ( 60°C ) and under load ( 100°C ) went to 25°C on idle and 60°C under load . Hope this helped ❤❤❤❤
It's always better to run @ lower temps if no other reason than to increase component longevity. Another thing you can do is use either AMD's toolkit or maybe your motherboards software ex: (MSI or evga) to under-volt the CPU/APU you can lookup online what safe voltages are & this will also decrease your temps while usually improving your base & boost clock speeds & will also prevent thermal throttling. If your unsure both Gamer's Nexus & Linus Tech Tips have extensive vids oh the how & why this works with both benchmarks & real-world application testing as proof.
i don't know. If it's design to run at 95c 24/7, I don't really care about the temps. I'll use co to get higher clocks but that's about it. Most people like myself will hardly ever full load anyway. It'always in the 50s during my gaming sessions.
@@MrC8025 I think the problem that we've been seeing with "ASUS burning out AMD chips" though is exactly related to this issue. The way AMD designed it is that if it's not going past 95c then we can give it more power, so the chipset itself may be designed to run at 95c however that says nothing about the interface with the LGA and the chipset. But you're right, if you don't use 100% load then the CPU isn't getting that high, and that benchmarking tools like this are designed specifically to run it at 100% load, however there are the case where it may get to full load and if it doesn't get as hot as you want you could get arcing occurring which again fries your chip and MB. If your primary usage is gaming, there's no real negative to just throwing it into eco mode and not have to ever worry about the power issue.
I am hoping for The Division 3 or similar, then i am gonna do this undervolting thingy, but for now Ryzen is my editing rig, couse they do this thing. Kinda like them open world ones, cba with Battlefield or COD. Fallout titles are more my taste. I have Intel i5 9400 for older games, works perfectly fine. Think the newer Intel chips have heating issues too ?
No more screaming fans after making these changes in the bios. With my 7900x I set it to curve 25 since 30 crashed it on boot up. Thermal limit set to 85. Cinebench score is currently 26241 20 pass test multicore.
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Let me know in comments did it work for you.
Sorry but you forgot to show us what was an actual performance drop by scrolling to hwinfo cpu tab where it shows frequency and core multiplyers.
In my short experience, curve optimizer is already enough to make cpu go faster and cooler due to more thermal headroom. Its basically an undervolt as if its were a gpu.
thanks for the great video.....
I've got a 7600x and B650e-f and I recently enabled PBO and set it to 'Enhancement' and then 'Level 2 - 80c' and my PC wouldn't boot/BsoD windows repair.
It booted again when I cleared the settings.
The only other setting I have changed prior to this is the DDR to 6000mhz in EXPO1, which is stable.
Did my PC not boot because I didn't change the 'curve optimizer' as well?
I'm a bit nervous to try again as I don't want to corrupt my Win11 Install / Nvme Drive.
You mention the 'sweet spot' in the curve, I'm not really sure what that means. What does 30/15 etc relate to?
Sorry for the questions, Thank you
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
i dont understand, we got the same CPU but my cinebench score is 1102. crazy yours was 19000
@@altiboxtv9570 I had this one and had to return it... there was no way to flash any other bios version after flashing once to the newest.
This was greatly helpful. Im running a 7700x and a MSI Mobo. I was watching YT videos and my CPU would start ramping up to 67 degrees celsius with my fans ramping up loudly. After doing this im running constantly around 40 C with quiet fans. Much appreciated.
Did you lose performance after this or it stills being the same?
@@SaulPeralta218 Still the same!
I can’t find the curve optimizer in my MSI BIOS. Did you?
Never mind. IGNORE
Can I do the same seeting with 5950x?
Definitely do this people.. it will drastically reduce fan noise, and also help keep your other components cooler, Definitely worth losing a couple % in performance
its called underclocking.
I'm just playing CODM in Gameloop. do you think this is okay?
I did this and my % performance even increased, so yeah, just do it.
@@ayayotoko yes
@@gontzalcaig That may depend on the "silicon lottery"; exceptional parts could perform better even undervolted, while bad parts could perform worse. But either way it's a good idea. Save power and extend the lifespan of your parts, take the few % hit if necessary.
With my 7600x a negative 30 offset alone brought the cpu temps down 10°C and my cinebench and 3d mark results got better too.
The best thing is though that when i open games like Cyberpunk or Metro Exodus now, my fans don't ramp up for a short time as high as before, its really pleasent now.
Thanks for making this video!
Damn, my same CPU can only do a negative offset of 10. I guess you won the silicon lottery
@@Quinsterrr mine is shit as fuck, negative of 5, and i get random restart....7600x fucking shit, that's my luck
@@motorkr2857 mine stable at -25, -30 crash 1 and never try 30 again.
5600x, same thing! temperatures even better
After a month i had random restart but no bsod, so it’s not stable?
Thank you so much, the temps got a lot better and the performance was strangely BETTER.
I wanted to thank you, i have changed a bit the settings you showed in this video, and now my pc works greater than ever!!
thank you for mentioning to low the Curve Optimizer at 25,20 and below if we have problem with windows, i actually did at 30,25 and 20, but at 15 everything works fine now
Sorry dumb but is going lower better?
same as mine
You should also decrease SoC voltage, 1.35V is way too much. Based on my vast experience with a total number of two Ryzen 7xxx CPUs, going as low as 1.15V is pretty much risk free (with EXPO enabled), while reducing uncore power to a significant degree. This way you get lower idle consumption (and temps) and "more power" for CCDs (if TDP is what limits you, which will be the case for all non-X CPUs running more than two-three cores at full load).
I'm thinking of buying the x670e aorus master with 7700x. Is the issue of VSOC voltage resolved with the new bios revisions in Gigabyte? I couldn't find anything on this topic neither on Reddit nor Buildzoid's videos. Thanks in advance for answering.
@@hititsenpai7615 it was "resolved" with F10 BIOS in May. Latest version is F13d with the latest AGESA.
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
I have the exact settings from the video copied apart from setting the curve optimiser from 30 to 20 because I think that it is stable.
I am running an AMD Ryzen 5 7600x and have lowered the SoC voltage to 1.15v. However, my PC runs fine, it's just once or twice, I do encounter application crashes.
I don't know what to change to prevent this? Either increase/decrease my voltage or increase/decrease the curve optimiser?
Other than that, I definitely do recommend people to do this as overall temp lower, power consumption lower and in some cases performance increases. This has happened to me in my case with my CPU.
@@isxmiyulll this is how I do it - it might take couple of days, but it's necessary if you want your system stable:
1. BIOS settings to default, restart
2. Upgrade BIOS to latest
3. BIOS settings to default, restart
4. Enable EXPO, boot to windows, run OCCT stress test (1h CPU, 1h RAM), or equivalent. If there are errors, there's problem with RAM modules.
5. Decrease SoC voltage and stress test, until you find stable minimum
6. (optional) Decrease VDD IO and run memory stress test - the difference here isn't huge and some boards (MSI latest bios) don't even allow this, when I forced it via ryzen master, I ran into issues.
7. Increase negative Curve Optimizer value and test for CPU stability. You might want to use varying load at 1-2 cores so they're pushed to the max.
Stable minimums will depend on multiple factors, so it's hard to recommend specific values.
I don't recommend using "memory context restore", though. It makes boot almost instant, but it might impact stability quite significantly.
THANK YOU! I usually dont comment alot but my temps went from 95C when trying to run a specific game down to 60C! Anyone with a AMD 7700X consider this before making any hardware changes. I almost bought an AIO cooler thinking that my PC was running too hot!
I did buy an big aio thinking it ran hot just to get the exact performance that I got from my pearless assassin air cooler
Yo bro this is what I’m literally going through right now , I stream & play warzone but my cpu hits 95c which makes my whole pc run hot ash & I keep lagging & dropping fps , I know it’s my cpu cuz that the only thang heating up , my gpu stays 65 or less so idk what to do ?
@@Thatdemon01 its just how the am5 cpus operate but you can do a slight undervolt to fix fps drops
@@Yung_CL4Y what bios setting should change cuz these didn’t work out for me
@@Thatdemon01 I’ll put a video up on my channel later tonight to show a nice undervolt for good temps it’s pretty easy to set up
Thank you for the tips I have the 7700x and when I was gaming my temps would of gone up in the 80 now it stays cool
Did you apply this same settings? Mine could not handle -30 I set it to -25
What are you averaging?
@@AuburnMan on games i average around high 60
How did you do it brother , I need help , I stream & play warzone but I hit 95 idk if I need a new cpu cooler or just do this but I don’t wanna lose performance
With a 7900x my score at first was 25k but the temps where also at 95C the limit. After doing the steps here It went to 24.5k, but the temps dropped dramatically all the way to 55-60C!
Same settings? Mines boots to blue screen with the 7900x
@@Daveed2407 I'm planning to do the same for my 7900x, but noticed that hes running a 7700x. Did you ever find the right settings to prevent the blue screen while booting?
@@buffalowxngs1512 PPT 230, TDC 160, EDC 225 for 170W AM5 Processors.
@JoseDanielGonzalezGil what about the 7800x3d rated at 120w
In 7:26 u have no notification about you have change your Curve Optimizer Negative turn to 30. How can't be notified ?
It worked very fine! I played around a little bit and set it on PBO 30 with the PPT limit on 100 watts (7700x). Now i got smooth 69C with the AiO (Arctic Freezer 3 - 240) set on 27%. Its so quiet and cool. Lovely! Cinebench R23 score is 19241 (90 watts was 18894 and stock was 19160) Thanks a lot!
After changing silicon paste several times and being disappointed with 95 degree temperature, this tutorial helped me to reach 75 degree temperature at peak load.. r5 7600x processor and prime b650m-k motherboard... I did according to the video, but I changed the ppt to 95.. Now I am on frequency 5.4 and the temperature is very good.. Thank you❤️
i hate how comapnies say “that is normal”. in the car word manufactures will say 1 quart of oil per 1k miles is “normal” just so that they can get away with the flawed design behind low friction piston rings. Then a true solution arises and they try to spin the change in their favor.
Thank you so much!
i'm using ryzen 5 7600(non x) and my temp was rising to 75-80 ° during cpu intensive games like cyberpunk and battlefield 2042.after doing this i'm getting 55-60 ° with almost the same performance
Your comment was made 6 months ago. I am using the same processor. I am also considering implementing it. Have you experienced any performance degradation or unexpected problems with your system so far?
Had the same issue with my 8600g, my cinebench went to 89ºC, so I used to disable turbo to bring down temps. But that cost me a good chunk of performance.
Thanks to this video my temps are lower and I'm able to use turbo mode again, thank you very much
This helped alot. It also helped my gpu usage go up because for some reason my cpu was trying to be the star of the show.
Thanks for the video. On looking at the hardware info voltages your soc voltage is 1.35. With the recent reports of burnt cpu's would be better to reduce this down manually to 1.25 or put a newer bios version on to hard lock it at 1.30v. Thanks man.
Isn't that what the curve optimizer does? Undervolting?
I copied your bios settings and went from 91.3C to 71,1C MAX temp, I didn't know this was a problem until I saw my temp numbers... Thank you!
Anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe.
Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with.
What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.
@@Forty2de when mining monero what would be the ideal undervolt? i want to get maximum efficiency where i mine with the least amount of power consumption. how do i do that on a gigabyte motherboard? there are no guides on the internet so i dont know how to do this. im new to these things and has zero experience with gigabyte motherboards
@@Forty2de🤡
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/@@Forty2de
or dont i need to toanything
The 7600x are designed to work at 95C and then it throttles its performance according to how good cooling you provide it with. Misunderstood reaction to a non existing problem. You might get some extra performance by a bit undervoltage.
I want to thank u for this video! My 7900x3d was running at high 80s during cinebench, but after this I got Max 69C
Great stuff, I readjusted with cpu 5800x3D -- temps max is 10 degree lower and 3Dmark rezults for Time Spy -- on cpu 500 score higher ! From 9800 to 10300 ! and temps to be excat from 92 to 82.4
Thanks. I built my 7600x new PC yesterday, I was frightened to see that at only 50% load, the temperature instantly went up to 80+° , even with a quite good Assassin 120 SE. resulting in lots of noise from the cpu fan!
U can use fan speed software and adjust ur fan speed to reasonable speed cause ryzen 7 has a normal high temperature, it was meant to be like that but ur pc wont think it normal so u gotta adjust the fan
i have a 7600x with aio cooler idle at 38C and while gaming for like 6h its only hit around 50C
@@450__TP yes, but you can only achieve this with undervolting as explained in tutorials. With stock motherboard settings/voltage, it's a mess 🙂
@@MrCrrispy nope when mine was stock I hade those temp
@@450__TP yeah sure, it's a special one... 😅
Putting maximum processor state in windows power plan to 99% instead of 100% will largely reduce termals on CPU, and a bit of performance. r7 7800xd3 went from 84C to 55-65C under load with this simple change. It is also worth mentioning that UE 5 likes to push amd products beyond it's limits, going over 100C on both CPU and GPU. You have to limit it.
Please consider making a very detailed video on updating BIOS. This video was awesome, and I know there are loads of people like me who are totally lost when it comes to this.
A detailed, step by step video would be extremely helpful!
Asus new bios release says something about using bios renamer? I'm already lost there.
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
ASUS manual literally explains BIOS update? Renamer is in the file that you download for the bios.
Format a flash drive
Download your EXACT motherboards BIOS. Make sure it’s also the correct version of the board.
Extract the bios download and copy and paste only the main file (about 30mb in size usually) to the formatted flash drive.
Plug that flash drive into a USB port and boot into BIOS.
Find the BIOS flash option and then select that 30mb file and proceed with update.
Make sure to not mess with the pc during update until it states it completed. Usually about 1-3mins to update.
Then reboot into BIOS page and check to see if the newer version is installed.
I went from 85 degrees to stable 55 degrees, but there was a dramatic performance reduction. I really don't see how this would be useful at all because you might as well get a less powerful chip instead of just decreasing performance like this.
Exactly, just buy a lower tdp processor. What is the point of buying the x variant.
@@soumyachatterjee2603sometimes it is cheaper and you don’t need the cooler if you’re going aftermarket, plus results may vary and every user’s needs are different, especially if you’re building for someone else and not yourself. My two cents tho.
People should know that anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe.
Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with.
What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.
what is "throttling" exactly? also im using the 7700 and boy this thing loves to go straight to 90 when i do any gaming or downloading at all and i have no idea why, it usually mellows out around 85 after a while but im not sure why it does this
@@The_Panda62 90 is nothing. It's design to run in beast mode every chance it gets. I don't think these CPUs can thermal throttle by design. I did a manual oc and it just shut off when I accidentally let it over heat at 105c. Clocks never throttle, just shut off.
@@MrC8025 yeah I ended up undervolting it and capping it at 85, it’s just annoying because my fans are loud as shit
@@The_Panda62 so change your fan curve, also if your gpu is running open air cooling having better case flow could help or setting a custom fan curve on the gpu to help keep temps down a bit. the cpu is not that power hungry to need lots of cooling. its just auto boosting to give the best performance. you could also set the cpu to eco mode and it would reduce temps / fan noise.
@pwningpanda3826 uses fan speed software and adjusts its curve to ur liking. the sudden fan noise is due to ur computer thinking the 70c on ur cpu is bad and it need to run it in high speed fan but in reality 70c to 80c is normal for ryzen 7 when gaming to transferring file to installing game etc etc
Helped me out alot thank you had finished my build aand thought my cooler was bad
Went from 90 c to 50 to 60 under gaming loads
Got mine to 100%load 60deg on 1st try, might tinker with it later on. great guide!
I'm trying to follow the video instructions but I cannot see the "Curve Optimizer" menu anywhere. CPU: Ryzen 5 7600x, MOBO: TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS WIFI
Just finished my new build with a 7600X and damn does it run hot! It likes to spike a ton and it has plenty of thermal paste. I am seriously about to send this air cooler back and get an AIO to help bring the noise down.
Great stuff! I had issues using Ryzen master but this way seems to be stable so far. Using a 7600X with a noctua nhd15 I'm maxing out at 67°C during a R23 all core test.
@@Kolestroll-cg1hx my temps were down from about 92°C to 67°C after following the process in the video...
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@@altiboxtv9570 nah, I'm not familiar with Asrock bios's sorry.
Google it
What are your idle temps before nd after?
I've changed my settings of my 7600X exactly to the example in this video, and it's stable after 2 hours of prime95. The temp went from 95 to 60 under stress, but the CPU benchmark score went from 10.5k to 8.5k. Which setting does affect performance the most? I want to crank up the performance to around stock level..
X670e tomahawk mobo
Thermalright Frozen Prism 360 Black Liquid Cooler
r7 7700x went from 127w-87.165w,
max temp 89c-64c,
bench score 1108 4th on cpu list very happy tyvm
Great video. Small performance hit and a large improvement in temps!
Exactly
7.3% drop in temperature (-27K) and 40% drop in power consumption (-58W) for a 3.4% drop in performance. Not bad. Definitely worth it in this case.
Agree 100% well worth doing with high power chips.
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@altiboxtv9570 try finding a video on TH-cam. Basically you can dial down the system clock 5% or so and drop the voltage on the CPU 5-10%, also the memory voltage a few percent. You dial down and then test for stability, maybe run Cinebench for 10 minutes and see if it's stable. With the clock speed and voltages reduced you may get a 20% decrease in power for a small reduction in clock speed
I'm glad I watched this. I'm selecting components to build a robust mid-range gaming system and was considering AMD for my CPU, currently I'm running an i5-4590 with a Radeon HD 7900 graphics card and the temperature is 31° C... according to Crystal Disk 8.
A lot has changed in ten years and the learning curve is steep... but now I have the time to research.
Thanks for watching
The people that have problems will never tell you, what they are bios setting or how they are cooling the CPU.
1 guy is running ram at 6200 so the soc is running at 1.45 volts all the time on the old Bios.
The new bios runs the soc at 1.3 volts at max
I think one can get more optimal results tinning negative voltage by core. -30 on all cores might not work for all. And one should run a battery of tests before assuming a tune is stable. On my 7900X, curve optimizer values vary from 0 to -20 depending on cores. That with eco mode +10% gives me a lot of performance never getting overly hot.
make sure you get a good cooler and update the BIOS as soon as you can. i heard stories of peopIe frying their CPUs, especially the ones with the X3Ds. even my low end 7600 can get quite hot for some strange reason. RAM instability is also a common issue. my motherboard had the old 2022 BIOS. freezing and crashing stopped after i updated BIOS
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
This is awesome video, Thank-you. I was running my 7950X on 105 ECO and it worked grate, but your way boosts my clocks higher with the same power and temps are 70s.
I'm curious, I see you running Asus Strix B650E-I, do you still have that board and how is it doing. I was thinking on getting one for my next ITX build.
Thank you
I've never had problems with high CPU temperatures, but I did have an old Dell Latitude laptop that did get very warm, unusually hot, even when only doing basic tasks. I found out it's cpu thermal paste had gotten pretty dry, maybe it needed a thermal repaste. I don't have experience doing that sort of thing though.
Thanks
@@Britec09 Great video by the way 👍
I have extensive experience doing that sort of thing having worked in a computer repair shop for 7 years. Avoid it if you don't know what you're doing as you can cause more harm than good.
@@jTheDigitalDoctor Ok. Interesting. I would love to learn how to do a thermal repaste someday.
@@technoWZ5598 Well, usually the whole laptop has to come apart and depending upon the orientation of the board the board may have to come out. From there it's usually about 4 screws that hold in the heatsink. You pop them out and apply a pea sized amount of quality thermal compound and spread it out with a credit card over the surface of the chip then tighten the screws back up. Here's where a lot of people screw up-they apply too much torque on the screws. All that does is cause the sink to bend and squeeze out the paste. Just tighten to slightly over finger tightness in a star pattern and you're done. Eventually your Dell will overheat without fresh thermal compound-at the very least the longevity of the device will be shortened due to the heat and performance affected. Heat creates entropy in the system which results in performance degradation. But Latitudes are old and no longer produced I believe so your best bet is to buy another laptop anyways. Yep.
My 7800x3D idles around 43-48c when I game it goes up to 63c to 82c is that normal? I haven’t use the steps in this video yet. My gpu stays around 48-54c.. Edit: I tried this and now my pc idles at 34-44 degrees and GPU stays at 34 idle after doing some tweaks to the gpu as well. Now gaming my max is ~50-77 degrees and the clock speed stays at 5GHz in all cores now for some reason! So this is very nice
good temps, nothing to worry about
Thanks for this video i tried doing a negative 30 on my 7700xand it worked first try. I'm playing bf2042 and in 128 player maps i was getting a temp of 84-85 and now it stays around 70-73. In baldurs gate 3 and cyberpunk I'm seeing about a 15c drop as well. My cinebench 2024 score also went from 1062 to 1104. I'm using a peerless assassin for my cooler.
Did you copy all his settings? Or something else? I run the 7 7700x aswell and it gets very hot
@@joelkaufmann1601 I just set the curve to negative 30 like he did and that's it. I tried setting it to eco mode but it caused noticable fps drop in bf2042 conquest 128 player
7800x3d... checked my temp while gaming 59C.. and i only have 1 case fan so far because i've been too lazy to put the others in. Cheapest possible air cooler i could find for the CPU btw ( Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2, like 32 euro / 32 usd)
yeah i dun get it, I'm running the same 7700x he is and temps under heavy load push 78-79 degrees C with no knee-capping. I'm running a cheap 360 rad but I guess it's working.
This helped a lot Thank you very much. My pc no longer sounds like a jet engine when starting a game and temps are 70 instead of 85 🎉🎉
To make sure the curve optimizer won't make the system unstable, i suggest using the auto curve optimizer in ryzen master and put the result in the bios.
I have never got a stable result using Ryzen master, doing it this way in the bios has worked great for me!
I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/
@@altiboxtv9570hit delete on startup to enter bios. There should be a fan optimizer option that'll do it for you automatically. Then toggle your curve manually from there if you wish.
But ryzen master can change the values in the bios right? why you want to input them into the bios then??
It worked thank u, but my cinebench points are lower at max my cpu is at 95C but only get 17900 points and after I did the settings at 70-85C I only get 16900 points. I’m using 7700x as well
I needed a faster way of frying some eggs. Time to buy Ryzen 7000
lol nutter
95c is fine.
Edit- also, Guess you know no one with a 13900ks. Weird.
@@96kylar I know a few with them. Guess you never seen sarcasm before
Pretty odd I run @ 4k never go over 75-80 c norm 76c
get a 9k series and you get an air fryer
Is there any major performance impact when gaming using this "workaround" ? Cheers
Definitely shaved a few degrees on average on my 7800x3d. Thanks
Isnt it ironic that he bought a 6-10% faster CPU just to throttle down it by 5%?
1% stonks is 1% stonks
I did this for my new build, ASUS B650E-F with 7700X, and it ran okay for about a week, then my ASUS B650E-F motherboard starting getting BIOS boot failures (CPU and VGA lights on). Turned the power off and restarted and it passed the BIOS successfully, but then failed the same way on the next reboot. Changed the setting back to the way they were and NO more BIOS problems. No thanks. Funky.
that 0-30 thingie is not 100 % stable, and thse bench tests doesnt show . if soemthing doesnt work try lovering your number by 5 .
if I follow this setting, will my PC performance also decrease?
Did you ever find that answer?
Guys modern cpus don't work like old ones. They are designed to run like this, when they get close to 95 they cool off by letting you use less power etc.
It's fine, so just let them run like they are designed, you're just adding trouble to something thats not an issue.
Your walkthrough probably didn't update the curve optimizer part because you keep changing the precision boost Overdrive value.
145w to 87w, or 66% more power consumption for only 3,5% more points on cinebench. 100% worth controlling those temperatures. And most likely longer life.
I just disabled Precision Boost Overdrive. It doesn't make a huge difference in performance, but keeps the CPU cool and stop the fan speed thrashing up and down..
I'm running a Ryzen 5 7600x. I'm just using a humble Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE. Never passes 90C when running Cinebench.
Hello ty for vid, did u touch anything on Ryzen Master?
I’m using 7800x3d and able to do a -30 curve but my temps never go down. Even after applying the 85 PPt limit. Why’s that?
the x3d chips are just gonna be hot no matter what. so unless youve got good water cooling or aggressively undervolt, expect high temps to be the norm
Is the PPT limit necessary if you're happy after just the negative curve optimizer and throttle limit?
I undervolted my i5 once so it could run boost clocks indefinitely, this old trick definitely can make a hot processor much more efficient under load.
I don't care about the temperature, but Incare about the power consumption. Great video. I would have appreciated a more in depths explanation on what the settings actually do, but it was good enough and i can just use Google.
Easiest is to bump the amps and wattage in the eco from 65W to 80W, for a total of 105W (vs the stock 105W with a real usage of ~150W).
The temp limit sometimes don't work, and still will allow the CPU to do above the set limit.
@ProDigit80 how would you do this? Eco mode is 65 but then how do you change it to 80
Curve ball, but that first run, within 5k on cinebench of that w-3265m - 24 cores and hyper threaded, and only 4 ish years old, AMD are absolutely smashing it
I always reduce the voltage on my Ryzen processors. It makes little difference in day to day business operations. I do Audio, video editing and I also am a programmer and gamer.
My 7700x cant handle -30 it is almost stable at -10 and my temps are not going down it is still 75 degrees at desktop and at cinebench i get 18300 point with 95 degrees with -10
19k in Cinebench on factory defaults? My 14700k with -0.015V undervolting and cutting all boost power from 253/135 watts to 110/110 and all core boost ratios from x55/56 to x40 making 26000 in Cinebench with temperature not over 65-68 degrees Celsius. And it was 30400 on default settings.
I have a 7950x, I did this with optimizer curve -40 and PPT 85w and the temp is 48°c in cinebench 2024 and 1722 pts in multicore, idle is 31watts of ppt
Cookbook approach with no explanation of WHY doing these things would help (or why you should apply these limits rather than any other of the vast range of limits available through the BIOS).
I have a 7800X3D and a NZXT Kraken 360 Elite aio cooler. Using stock thermal paste that came on the aio, my temps are 40-50 idle, and 45-65 while gaming. Under a hour stress test in OCCT at 100% load, highest temp I saw on the CPU was 78C. Is this considered good?
Good temps
Were these temps with stock settings or after applying the changes shown in the video?
mine are about the same too and i have the exact same setup
Ew kraken, money dump
I tried -30 to my 7600x & boy now it runs at 75°C max while playing Cyberpunk. There have been no crashes or anything like that I think it's stable.
ok.. what happened here is you changed the settings and now 7700x has frequencies like his slower brother 7700. Its 336€ vs 354€.. is it not better to buy the 7700??
Конечно лучше. Если вы готовы экспериментировать, имеете хорошую систему охлаждения(очень хорошую), то берите 7700x. Если хотите меньше температуру взамен производительности, то смотрите в сторону менее производительных и более холодных процессоров
De-lid the badly done interface plate. Not exceptably done by Amd. Go custom. Nice work with this one's settings, Britec09.
7800 x3d cooling under an air Assassin 120 cooler E, single fan. On a cool morning such as today 8/3/2024 sits at 47.5 C, a hot afternoon (95) sits at 51.3 C - 55.4 C. Seems normal under air cooled set up.
I went on full PBO manual and set up -30 on the 2 preferred cores (noted them in Ryzen master) and -22 on all other cores because full all cores -30 was not full stable. You can also limit downwards vour VDD Core voltage to ease on the CPU (1.20v instead of 1.3v auto) on my silicon piece. Thank's.
Well I set this to 40 and to my surprise system works fine ran a cinebench23 30 min stress test with a result of 19300approx
while on stock it was around 19700
other settings I did was i set the power draw to 115watts and temperature limit to 85.
I am running a ML240 cooler from Colermaster , Oh yeah boost clock goes to 5.1ghz and stablizes around 5.06ghz
Thank you for your work creating this video. Could you make the same video for an Intel based computer?
I can do
On the curve optimiser, you said some people can get away with - 30. When I run ryzen master curve optimiser it sets mine to - 50 after it's 30min test. I get a max boost just shy of 5.5ghz. Is that good? This is my first build since the fx days. I have a 7600x currently.
I’ve had zero issues on my 7950x build. Run eco mode just cause I can but without that, no problems.
I have a 7600x that I have the PBO offset set to 80 and the max temp at 80C, it draws 65w usually. Bought it when they were new and have been running it like this for almost a year now.
Can you use the same PBO settings for ryzen 7700 non X variant? or should change the PPT limit etc?
I set mine to the same but I don't seem to get reduced temps, it just limits it to the 85 on load. Strange, I guess theres something I'm not understanding
Not until I was 49 in 2007 did I finally Cave in and bought my first Acer laptop with Vista preinstalled and the books I read. At that time I was inundated with PC Nerds insisting XP was better and even into when Windows 7 first came out. That being said, Does start menu x include a windows 11 default option? Thanks for right click context menu but again, how do I go back to the default context menu if I want to stay in practice? I always recommend people should watch your videos if they want to improve after purchasing Windows 11.
You're welcome
Hello there i have a 7800x3d and on Tcl and Cpu die am getting on maximum 89temps sometimes and the current is 79 and 76 when i play pubg on 2k is it good i also undervolt the cpu
If you want lower temps limit the PPT to 60W. I dropped another 20 degrees by doing this with only 1-2% performance loss.
My cpu runs 71,6 Celsius using cinebench with an air cooler (Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO) out of the box. Should I still make the bios changes?
does this effect performance? lower fps or something?
Same cpu, same settings. In cinebench, cpu never went past 59c. In helldivers 2, cpu went up to 69c. Considering it was going up to 90+, pretty good improvement.
Does this decrease performance while gaming? Any loss in FPS etc?
From someone who makes guides, you should install your AiO properly. Right now you have all the air at the top of the reservoir by the hoses which makes the system run hotter. Hoses down!
"7000 series" is pretty vague. My 7800X3D never goes above 63 (core) / 75 (package) Celsius even under full load (8 cores maxed out, running at around 4800 MHz), and is typically 35 to 45 ºC when idle. That's with a PWM cooler / case fans, so idle could be even lower (it's just that the motherboard is hardly bothering to spin the fans at that point).
@@TheTroll-fj7wg - Full load, 3D rendering with Vray or Maxon, 75 ºC. If yours is getting hotter, maybe your cooler just isn't keeping up.
Also, the 7800X3D's Tj max is 89 ºC, so you should never see 95 ºC, period. It will lower its own speed automatically to stay under 89 ºC.
Hey everyone , I have watched 50+ videos re arranging bios settings and tried many softwares but nothing worked for the past 3 weeks as i person who has received a new pc i was worried but after wasting my time on all of these videos , I went to my guy who build my pc and he changed the orientation of my cpu cooler fan. My cpu on idle ( 60°C ) and under load ( 100°C ) went to 25°C on idle and 60°C under load . Hope this helped ❤❤❤❤
i dont get it.
Tldr his guy wrongly faced the CPU fan
Dont understand why AMD decided to go for the max possible perf for the max possible temp....
Followed the guide.... It's nice and quiet but using barely anything of the processor.... Less than a GHZ.
Can someone advise a different setting?
7700x on air (NH-14s) on a Asus TUF B650 (thrash motherboard) same settings, -30, 85 w, 85 degrees - 19246 CB23 with 80 degrees and 86 w .
It's always better to run @ lower temps if no other reason than to increase component longevity. Another thing you can do is use either AMD's toolkit or maybe your motherboards software ex: (MSI or evga) to under-volt the CPU/APU you can lookup online what safe voltages are & this will also decrease your temps while usually improving your base & boost clock speeds & will also prevent thermal throttling. If your unsure both Gamer's Nexus & Linus Tech Tips have extensive vids oh the how & why this works with both benchmarks & real-world application testing as proof.
I agree
i don't know. If it's design to run at 95c 24/7, I don't really care about the temps. I'll use co to get higher clocks but that's about it. Most people like myself will hardly ever full load anyway. It'always in the 50s during my gaming sessions.
@@MrC8025 I think the problem that we've been seeing with "ASUS burning out AMD chips" though is exactly related to this issue. The way AMD designed it is that if it's not going past 95c then we can give it more power, so the chipset itself may be designed to run at 95c however that says nothing about the interface with the LGA and the chipset. But you're right, if you don't use 100% load then the CPU isn't getting that high, and that benchmarking tools like this are designed specifically to run it at 100% load, however there are the case where it may get to full load and if it doesn't get as hot as you want you could get arcing occurring which again fries your chip and MB. If your primary usage is gaming, there's no real negative to just throwing it into eco mode and not have to ever worry about the power issue.
@@Britec09then why buy a 7950x. Buy a 7800xt and over clock it. Why are you even scared or worried ?
@@Mike__Band wrong. ASUS x670e-e since November been fine . I bought another one.
Is your cpu effected by the recent news of cpu burning out?
It's not the CPU.
It's the voltage settings for the ram
I am hoping for The Division 3 or similar, then i am gonna do this undervolting thingy, but for now Ryzen is my editing rig, couse they do this thing.
Kinda like them open world ones, cba with Battlefield or COD.
Fallout titles are more my taste.
I have Intel i5 9400 for older games, works perfectly fine. Think the newer Intel chips have heating issues too ?
I have a ryzen 7700, this values that you use for 7700x will work for my processor?
Great video. Followed this and got great results
No more screaming fans after making these changes in the bios. With my 7900x I set it to curve 25 since 30 crashed it on boot up. Thermal limit set to 85. Cinebench score is currently 26241 20 pass test multicore.
Great video. Many thanks. Which is best Intel or Ryzen? 👍👍
Depends really