The New 2023 Toyota Crown Is a Weird Decision
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2023 Toyota Crown review! The 2023 Toyota Crown is a totally new and weird sedan. Today I'm reviewing the new Crown, and I'll show you all of its quirks and features. I'm also going to drive the new 2023 Toyota Crown, and I'll review the driving experience and show you what it's like behind the wheel.
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00:29 CARS & BIDS!!!
01:25 Quirks & Features
03:53 Powertrain
05:41 Rivals to the Crown
06:40 Interior
09:37 Touchscreen
11:26 The Backseat
12:31 The Cargo Area
13:39 Exterior Styling
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Theory, The Crown is made specifically for old people, it’s raised height is not for clearance but for seat height to make it easier to get in and out of for the elderly
And for the 70% of obese/overweight American population
And for those who has arthritis , bad knees, or are taller than four feet high. 😊
@@EvaSlash lmao🤣🤣
in that case it kinda makes some sense i guess? easy for the olds to get in and out of, slow because you know they're gonna be going like 63 in the left lane regardless, and big car to cash in on the nostalgia they have for their 1976 buick whatever the fuck. all that combined with the fact that the segment has basically evaporated at this point and it has virtually no competition and i could actually see this car being modestly successful for a while.
My thoughts exactly. Old people were mostly who bought the outgoing Avalon anyway.
Here is my reason for this car: Since this is to replace the Avalon which is mostly bought by older buyers who wanted a softer ride and not really care too much about power and speed. So this seem to actually make sense to me (I know my idea isn't going to be a popular one), the older buyers normally do have issues with their legs and knees, etc. My parents for example likes driving CARs, and not SUVs, but with their bad knees, it is really hard for them to get in and out of their cars, so having the Crown as a Car, but with higher seating position, it means it would be much easier for older buyers to get in and out of the vehicle. Also give it a car feel and not an SUV that many may not want to own. One thing I starting to notice more and more is that as we advance in technology and sell more high tech gadgets, it is harder and harder for old consumers to use. Many aren't good with smart phones, many aren't good with new techs in cars, etc. Even some covid tests are depending on apps. While I understand the focus is younger people, but something should still be considered for the older consumers. Just my 2 cents.
You have cooked and it's well served
that was the whole reason the Venza existed, ride height for older folks, SUV styling, and was suppose to also steal outback customers
My exact thought. The wife's DD is a Kia Cadenza. We are both 50 yrs old and it is getting more and more difficult to exit the car.
This makes perfect sense to me, older folks that want easy access but also still want a sedan. If you look at the B segment crossovers, the ones meant to appeal to 20 something's as a "beginner" car, they have been historically been bought by older people. Why? Because they are small enough to live with but tall enough to get into. Your KIA Souls, Jeep Renegades, Chevy Trax... All of those are meant, except maybe the Trax, to appeal to a youthful market and yet most of the time when you pass them I bet the occupant isn't younger than 50.
@@AHungryHunky I am old and my bones hurt.
It's not weird, it's bringing back the proportions cars had back in the 50s and 60s as opposed to modern sedans. People like the comfort of sitting upright in a seat rather feeling like they are on the floor, and they like a view of the road and head room. This car is a happier balance for someone who wants a more comfortable sedan rather than an SUV.
Best answer!
I have a Tesla Model 3 and I love it because of the ride height!! I can see the front hood!!
I think this is one of the most appealing design choices Toyota has made in a very long time.
I agree. I didn't really get Toyota's designs for their sedan line-up until this!
@@TopStrikerMaverick no he just doesn’t have the same opinion as you …
@@eazydoesit276 that’s grounds for insanity, under my kingdom
@@TopStrikerMaverick off with his head ?
@@eazydoesit276 that’s the spirit 🥲
That's a car to drive and relax. Why does everything need to be fast and dynamic? It seems to be an amazing car for it's purpose.
All it needs is a lift back trunk and I’m sold
Everything needs to be breaking the sound barrier nowadays in order to be considered "dynamic"
The thing is crown was a completely different car than this is, crowns used to be a large sedan with luxurious interior and they could go fast and be fun if you wanted
If you want someone to review cars as an appliance, Doug isn't the guy for that. There are other channels who look at cars from that lens. Check out Motorweek.
With hard sports suspension that’s not easy on older backs
Getting 40mpg in a fairly large, comfortable 'sedan' is pretty impressive. I can see its place in the market.
Not really when a corvette gets 35 highway
Except it looks ugly
And isn’t priced right at all
@@Littlegoblinfatface yeah it should be cheaper
@@MrPland1992 and a Geo Metro gets 50. And my moped gets 100. But none of them are going to comfortably haul 4-5 adults.
As a person who isn't elderly (lol), I can appreciate this model. I personally have a 2020 Corolla night shade SE. I've test driven a Rav-4 which I thought I wanted to purchase. For me, it was way too large and felt clunky. I want to trade in my car but wasn't sold on a different model car as I felt the Camry is over saturated and I want something a little taller and roomier. Answered prayers! I want to test drive this asap
Exactly. This is just what I want. Not everyone wants a SUV. O also like different and this different 😉
Never get SE. I made the mistake tires are expensive and no comfort
Good to see a non-SUV alternative, I like it. Not everything has to be tall and ponderous on the road
The fact that it’s not a hatchback is a mind boggling decision. It’s literally shaped like one
That is a "missing piece" for me too.
Cutting costs
Ford Pinto sedan (raising hand): Um, over here.
Hatchback definitely unlocks more cargo room but you give up rear end structural rigidity. Perhaps Toyota wanted to preserve some of that for the Crown, it was never meant to be the most practical car anyway-they have the RAV4 for that.
@@MateuszZwierzycki Nope, there is a hatchback version, but they won't sell it in the U.S. because the average American is allergic to hatchbacks/wagons.
I live in Japan. The Crown is one of the most iconic Toyota brands in terms of its history, so the SUV-like styling was a big shock to the car scene here when it was announced. But honestly, after seeing a bunch of these new Crowns on the street, I think it looks rather elegant and certainly worthy of the Crown moniker, especially on the trims where the plastic wheel arches are body-coloured and not black plastic, like the new Subaru WRX.
I lived in Japan for a few years. The Crown was a luxury model. Always thought it was nice.
The new crown looks horrible. The last generation was elegant.
Maybe you forgot toyota land cruiser that an iconic toyota suv
This car is stupid. For a little over $59k you can buy the Lexus ES hybrid and have a luxurious sedan. They should have keep the Avalon.
Stupid decision Toyota.
That should be $50 k above.
It's NOT an SUV. It's what a good sedan should look like.
I feel like most car critics said this car would fail, but... I see them popping up all over. It is rather snowy where i live, and the raised sedan is becoming quite popular!
It's fantastic that there's still a car that's not hopping onto the obligatory performance wagon. Comfort is king for many people frustrated why their car has to perform on track that exists nowhere in daily life rather than on the potholes that do. And it's a nice looking, practical niche car. Glad it exists.
Well Toyota has been selling the crown for decades now and it's the Rolls of japan..so no sporty doesn't work
The top trim has 340hp. That's quite a bit!
@@bradygiltz5160 I believe the Century is even more luxurious, though the Crown is commonly used as a cop patrol car in Japan too
This guy is good!😊
What? Less than 20% of vehicles released are performance minded in any way.
Very, very intrigued by this. Utterly bizarre. But that Sportcross is 10000% times more intriguing.
Review has been out for 3 months...
@@johndc2998 where? It hasn’t came out yet
@@johndc2998 yeah, that's exactly why he teased the video in the Cars and Bids section.
@John Dc2 are your referring to the prius video from 3 months ago? Cuz op is referring to the Lexus in the carsandbids section...
I've got a Lexus is300 sport cross and I love it. Only has 45k miles.
I bought one in August and so far I’m loving it and get lots of compliments from strangers. Yes the SUV has taken over for years and is a very useful body style but it is also so common to the point of boring at this point. I probably fit into that older person category but this is a beautiful car and everyone wants better mileage these days.
I think this car is beautiful
Thanks for your review! I want to trade my Corolla and I think this is perfect for me
What color did you get?
White!@@tbld2827
I agree 100% The SUV is boring. They all look the same.
This car is beautiful!! My entire family own Toyota’s my father is a retired Toyota mechanic, my two brothers own a Toyota dealership, Toyota’s are the best and most dependable vehicle you can buy 💙
Nice review. Platinum Crown actually doesn’t use a planetary gear set aka Toyota E-CVT, but use a new 6 speed torque converter automatic transmission and uses a different RWD bias full time all wheel drive system.
thank you. glad somebody said it. his reviews are getting less factual. he just glazes over stuff a lot it seems.
@@evdanielsson7 Doug makes a lot of videos, I don't think he has time to get every last detail right. plus most people probably don't care, they just want to see the quirks and features
@@pauldzim yeah but he is super thorough with some cars. I get he’s busy. but why even bother if it’s just gonna be a half ass review.
Toyota sedan owners dont care about transmission
In Japan, mature drivers buy the Crown, younger folk buy the Venza (or Harrier as it is named in Japan) So in terms of the driving experience, it's perfectly suited to the target market...in Japan. In other markets, it appears to be a harder sell.
In europe we only receive the boring models
The middle east still love large sedans. Basically All the chrysler 300 sales are there.
Vensa is an suv. Crown is a sedan.
Off topic ... I love the Sienna...whether it's a suv van minivan whatever
@@M.sami12 just learned the 300 was still in production
I really like the look of it a lot. All the SUVs look the same, regardless of the manufacturer and it’s nice to see something that looks different!
It’s a chubby bubble that reminds me of agenda 2030
The lines are good but that “grille” situation up front looks like crap. 💩
So far based on the reviews I love the Ltd trim of the Crown, what appeals to me is the seat height (easy in and out) and the overall build but for a $50K car that is supposed to be Toyota's flagship I wish they had a tendered to 3 simple items. 1. lack of HUD, 2. lack of a blind spot camera which is available even on a CRV, 3. The trunk lid should be on struts rather than a bar that you have to manually put in place to keep it open. I hope Toyota Engineers will look into these simple fixes for the next model year. It is the middle of 2023 and unfortunately I have yet to see a single Crown on the road.
Trunk is spring loaded. not sure where you saw a bar.
I saw a gray Crown about two weeks ago here in the Midwest. It looks very good in person.
I think the exterior styling of this vehicle really stands out a lot from other full size sedans on the market when you look at the two-tone paint version. If you opt for this option the entire rear including the trunk is painted black while the rest of the car is the main color. Not saying it looks great but it's definitely a head turner.
I actually agree, even though Doug clearly dislikes it I think this is a good looking one and could even achieve some level os success.
@@MilanStier 2023 Toyota Crown imo looked like a little downgraded NASCAR GEN4 STOCK CAR.
@@purwantiallan5089 oh agressive hehe! It's your pov then, it's fine.
Actually some of that 2 tone color isn't paint, it's molded plastic. I was shocked when I saw it in person. It looks better in the video and photos.
@@MilanStier it's fucking hideous. the last gen crown looked way better. this is such a downgrade
This seems like an amazing car though. Not every car has to be fast and well-handling. The crown has loads of rear passenger room, a massive trunk, modern tech, what more could you ask for? It uses the interior space very efficiently
I never got the "fast" part. Maybe what? 10% of the people really want a car that goes 0-60 under 5 seconds, but probably 90% of drivers dont care if it breaks the sound barrier or burps loud exhaust sounds. Does any of that even matter when stuck sitting in rush hour traffic, driving to work, taking the kids to school, soccer practice, grabbing groceries ?
I think most want decent safe performance and handling, nice quiet ride and good mpg. IMO.
Same for off road use. Id bet 80% drivers dont go off road beyond occasionally parking on a grass lot or lawn. Now thats not saying AWD is not needed, I love awd especially in snow or rain, but how many really use it to crash through desert valleys or bust a creek trail in the deep woods ?
@@damham5689 yep. They forget about accelerating parts.
If you're not really into cars, that's fine. But this is at least $41,000 (+dealer markup) for something unexceptional; if unexceptional modern tech and space for passengers and cargo is all you want, many other cars have these very ordinary features, so just buy a used whatever for way less. Personally if I was going to throw that sort of money down I'd want the moon on a stick.
Besides, one of the major problems with the design of this car (there are many) is that the silhouette is sporty and sleek, but the gigantic wheels and sheer bulk are definitely not; it looks like it is supposed to be fast, but it definitely isn't.
@@damham5689 most people I know who lease a Porsche Cayenne or some type of a BMW NEVER floored it. They don’t know what engine or which axle is powering it.
What more could I ask for? A TOYOTA D4-D diesel engine in a station wagon with a manual transmission, that's what. Actually if I could really get what I want, I'd want a 6+ liter V8 direct injected turbo diesel in a station wagon, with a Tremec six speed manual transmission. If I'm really honest.
I’m 45 and nearly half a century…so I guess that qualifies me as OLD! 😂. I just traded in my 2 inch lifted 2019 Jeep Moab wrangler for this Crown in a gorgeous Pearl color. Best decision ever! I’m getting older and my knees were tired of taking a beating hopping in and out of my lifted Jeep. I consider myself a Queen and the name of this ride is so fitting (CROWN). 😂😂😂The ride is smooth, unlike the JEEP and I’m in love with the mileage. Full tank of gas 590-630 miles. My new every day driver! ❤❤❤
5:01 Small correction here, the Platinum's Hybrid MAX powertrain has a 6-Speed Automatic, while the XLE and Limited's standard Hybrid setup has a CVT.
I caught that too.
I'm an Avalon owner, former Venza owner. I'm highly interested in this car because as someone from Denver, the biggest complaint with my Avalon hybrid is the lack of AWD.
Subaru for you?
I from asia and toyota crown very love in my place. Pls, read history about this is car. Back generation Toyota Crown better.
I don't know like to create crown for usa market, but in japan market crown is Luxery sedan
Lexus offers ton of awd sedans. Loved all 3 of mine so far
2021 Avalon sedans had available AWD.
@@franko8572 Subaru 360 and Daihatsu Midget 1963 both are better than 2023 Toyota Crown despite both are far slower.
0:30 sore throat ain't stopping Doug from promoting C&B like usual, much respect 🙌
his game plan is build it up to the point that he can sell for big $$$..
I think the best comp for this car is the Honda Crosstour (originally the Accord Crosstour). The slightly buffed up AWD sedan with a nice interior and more space than a typical sedan and a more SUV interior/seating feel is pretty much all fall in line with the crosstour.
I personally own a Crosstour and I love it. I can trust it in snow and off road with minimal obstacles but it is still a fun driving experience on roads. From my reading about it when it was in production, a lot of the same things were said about it being confusing but I think it makes a lot more sense in today's market than before.
Good comparison actually… i love the crosstour always wanted one.
I saw one of these on the road today in red! The back styling is very noticeable and I like it
I love the styling. Not every car needs to be built for “performance” and “canyon-carving”. 99.9% of the time people are commuting, not trying to push the limits, but just getting around town.
Plus, it is a Toyota. I love it. A+
Thanks for doing this one. We're thinking of this for a replacement for our Accord. It's not an "exciting" car but seems like an practical upgrade to the Accord we have. More interior room, better fuel efficiency, and a bit more luxury. Styling is a bit odd and will be polarizing I'm sure, but I kinda like it.
Do yourself a favor & keep the Accord.
Look into the turbo model, the Platinum
This new Crown reminds me a lot of the 2010-2015 Accord Crosstour, but it's much easier on the eye, so there may be a market for it as some people seemed to love their Crosstours. It's certainly more original than the myriad of generic SUVs one encounters on the daily commute.
@@mfaris4467 Why do you say that? An issue with this model in particular or with Toyota in general?
Better looking than most cars out there.
7:43 FYI it''s on Toyota Hybrids. It's not just for "braking" but its a form of regenerative braking that uses that energy to recharge the hybrid battery, instead of just charging it through the gas engine.
I’m 66 and recently discovered that I’m not getting any younger. I like the raised height and the quasi SUV look. Works for me. Reminds me a bit of the Honda Crosstour which I really liked.
It is actually sweet!! It feels like the GT line of BMW except it won't break up! It also looks quite decent!
Or the Honda Accord Crosstour
bmw doesn’t break, i do nothing but buy a brand new BMW every 3 years and i never had 1 issue with any of them
I love that Toyota is starting to focus on the styling of their cars
@@montyui133256 it’s far from going down 💀
Maybe they finally hired someone who likes cars as the head of design?
Dude, the Avalon looked great compared to this thing.
The current gen Camry XSE looks so much better than the clown sedan. And it has more features for less. And the performance from the v6 matches the performance of the fastest crown
why is styling regarded as so important for a daily car? usability, practicality, and efficiency should be the priorities
RE, at the 10:02 mark-If you connect and turn on Android Play (and Apple I believe), you can split the screen and show the navigation and music at the same time. And interchange seamlessly which side each displays on.
We love our NEW Crown, especially my wife. She doesn't have any difficulty getting in or out. We love the style, the ride, the MPG, just an overall great car...
I don’t know if all knows but this Crown actually will be “Crossover” version instead of “Sedan”.
Crown series will be in 4 different types as this “Crossover”, the original “Sedan”, actual SUV version “Estate” and coupe style hatchback “Crown Sport” which design is really similar to Ferrari Prosangue frankly.
Other 3 types will be for sale around this Autumn in Japan so I’m looking forward for it.
The Coupe Sport, IMO, is by far the best looking. Hope to see it in in the USA.
I'm just going to assume that this will not sell well and Toyota will not bring the other models to America since it was a "failure", even though the Crossover is literally the worst one out of all of them.
The Crown badge is Greatly respected in many parts of Asia for its astonishing reliability. Together with the Land Cruiser n Hilux, they are Toyota 's workhorses. In Malaysia at one time , taxi drivers used to purchase these Crowns second hand after they had been used as taxis for 10 years n they still run better as taxis than most other new cars n outlast them.
i like the way it's lifted and also a hybrid and also a conservative sleek sedan. i would love this in a smaller package like that of a Yaris or Corolla
I had never heard of this car until I saw one on my way home tonight. I am not normally a Toyota person, but this is a good looking vehicle.
This is the kind of car i would like to buy. I really like Toyota and their reliability is proven here even with our harsh climate. But i don't like SUV's. I've been in the Crown lately, and it confirmed that it would be a perfect daily for me. By the way, i follow closely this channel since 2014 and still very satisfied with the content to this day.
I actually think it's a great decision. Avalon and Camry have been almost identical for years, with the Avalon being a little longer. That's a lot of building for something just a little bigger. Kind of like Altima and maxima. Been very similar for years and the maxima is about the same length so even weirder to make. But the Crown is similar to bmw X6. Kind of in-between sedan and crossover.
Nice video. We are a 2 car senior family. I have a Ram hemi pickup to tow our Travel Trailer. My wife did not want another Truck, no SUV'S. We've had a couple of mini vans and the driver seat height were perfect for us! Hence the Crown purchase. It's a very nice riding Car, a Toyota and I drove 538 miles and filled it up with 11.5 gallons. We are happy with the Limited. Enjoy, Gill
I see this car everywhere in Japan, it's clearly not made for the US market where people prefer SUVs. In Japan full sized vans are the equivalent of SUVs, so this car makes a lot of sense.
Is this just me or did that LS430 on cars & bids have 628,000 miles?? Wow that's amazing
I think a better comparison would be with the BMW GT or the Honda Accord Crosstour both of which seemed to have done relatively well in sales numbers
Was confused by why the comparison wasn’t made when they look so similar. This thing is $5-10k too high for me when the new Prius is an option but realize the Prius might not work for some but this thing at it’s price is an odd combination for even faux luxury
The crosstour has SUV clearances though. I imagine same with the GT. We’ve got a crosstour and were surprised when we realized it has the same clearance as a Jeep Cherokee. Also, the fact that it’s a hatchback is a big convenience.
@@blakehenderson8828 the Prius is so narrow. Anyone with a fat ass would hate the Prius.
@@NathanKenyon Toyota Crown GT maybe better than the old 2023 Toyota Crown.
The cross tour did well? It was discontinued in 2015.
So basically the way it was worded to me by the other techs while I worked at Lexus was B was for active braking. You will notice it more around the city but it basically activates the regenerative braking without actually applying the brakes. The regenerative braking is the electric motor being swapped in polarity to be a generator and not a motor. This converts mechanical energy into electric energy and uses the momentum of the car to spin a generator. The car naturally does this while braking but with the B mode in use it becomes active without using the brake pedal slowing you faster and using the momentum of the car to stop it instead of the brake pads. This is particularly handy for downhill driving.
I bought an Crown LXE in July. This car has nice styling. I get many compliments and questions on my feelings after owning it for several months.
I saw one of these in person for the first time this past Friday. At first glance it is very bold and striking, and does look far better in person than pics online. Also, dark colors like black make it look better. I find that it reminds me a lot of the Ford Mustang Mach-E in it's overall shape/design.
I saw one in pearlescent white, it looked kinda cool
The only thing I don’t like is the side molding otherwise it looks really good to me.
I saw one in person in grey with the grey 21 inch wheels and it looks amazing
agreed on mach-e good point
I loved the seating position of the 2015 Venza. Great for us old heads. Looks like Toyota implemented this into the Crown .
I love seeing Toyota release a new hybrid car in an electric and SUV world.
Idk, I feel like this car was made to make me want it. It's like a fancy Honda Crosstour. I love it.
The Ford Five Hundred was also a sedan that made a point of being taller than average. I remember the commercials where they showed someone drawing a line above it like when you're measuring your kids, showing it was taller than the competition, ending with the slogan "Elevating the sedan."
I never see those on the road anymore. My son bought one and it was trash... worst car ever
@@ohioplayer-bl9em I bought a 2007 Ford Five Hundred used a few years ago and mine was fine. Boring car but got up to I think 160-170k miles before I traded it in when I was finally able to buy a new car. But yeah I never see them anymore where I live either.
I'd had 2 ford five hundred, first one fwd, second one awd w ctr. Sold the awd n got a 2017 Ford taurus sho..
Didn't they just rename it Taurus after a couple years?
@@DanTheMailman330 Yeah after 2008 I think.
As weird as it is, I like it. It feels to me like a large sedan, and I kinda like it.
Good videos!
Can you get car startup sounds and some helmet camera clips added to future videos?
So many Lincoln town car features. The cluster with center display square, the double flipping console, big old trunk, comfort suspension. Pretty great car, if they can get costs down it would be a fantastic livery car. And old folks too. But $$$$$
I like this thing - the styling is underrated... It is simple, but the surfacing itself, the subtle curve of every inch of it - is smooth and organic and really far better than almost anything out there for under $100k - almost like an older Jaguar. It's unique, it's weird, it's very Japanese. It seems like a cool, comfortable cruiser for the stealth wealth crowd (Lexus money for a Toyota badge) - it's almost like a sedan Land Cruiser.... Clearly not in terms of intent or capability, but in vibe and who might actually buy one.
i thought of the jaguar too.
No and no. This is generic looking. Every design element is done and done by others several years ago. The end result is ok, nothing more, same for the interior; ok...Next. Probably a excellent car for someone who wants something reliable and comfortable without breaking the bank. But saying it's a unique design piece is a poor understanding of design.
I wish the sedan version was here, my dad would buy one then lol
I know you said you may feel differently about the Crown’s sportiness if you drive the highest trim level, but I’m glad you got a Limited for this review since most people are only going to buy the XLE or Limited trims anyway. I actually like this car based on this review and I’d likely be getting an XLE or Limited.
I want a Limited for the 360 parking cam. Don’t care for the huge 21” wheels but will probably need to live with them.
Most people watching a Doug review probably won’t be buying this car if we’re being honest. I’m just here for the quirks and features 🤓
@@canto_v12 You can get the limited with 19 inch wheels instead of 21, just need to say no to an extra package.
@@alemarba I read somewhere that the 360 cam comes with the 21” wheels. If it’s not so, even better. Don’t want fragile thin tires.
@@canto_v12 I am in the same page than you. The Platinum lost me in the 21 inch only option.
We have only had ours a couple weeks but so far, we are loving it. We are currently avg 41.9 MPG.
To tell you the truth, I like it. I am 62 years old with arthritic knees and very short legs. Getting into an SUV is a challenge. I owned a 2007 RX350 which was killed two years ago in a car wreck. Thank God it protected my wife. For those with my challenges it is easier to get into and out of something that doesn't sit up so tall. And, I don't need to travel at the speed of light anymore, I'd much rather have an outstanding audio system to excite me. Oh, and the gas mileage doesn't suck!
The crown is so interesting because of the amount of Toyota models through history that have sported it’s name. Even still, camry and Corolla’s names are both derived from the name crown. Throttle House’s video on the crown does a great job explaining it’s history
yea throttle house did a pretty humorous explanation of its history
@@beanapprentice1687 what about to talk about this when I saw your comment.
There used to be Corona, before becoming Camry
@@lucky889s9 Which is also latin for crown. Just like Camry and Corolla.
I remember that back in 2020 stupid people making fun of the Toyota Corona name saying that Toyota "foreshadowed coronavirus" BS
@@automation7295 Technically, all the names do mean "crown," but "Camry" comes from the Japanese for "crown": kanmuri.
On paper and in the boardroom, this model makes a lot of sense. Will be interesting to see how well it sells in the first couple of years.
Seen one on the road the other day it actually looks pretty good in person.
Doug, the original high clearance sedan and wagon was the AMC Eagle in the early 80's. Subaru was a decade later.
Seen one in person the other day in white, and can tell you that it certainly stands out amongst other cars on the road. Broke my neck and a couple of other drivers i noticed staring as well.
My grandfather would have been all over this vehicle. He owned an Avalon for the soft ride, interior space and reliability. The crown levels up all of these features. And you can’t overlook the elevated seat, very convenient.
Wrong, the Crown is not a level up over the Avalon. No tilt and telescope, no HUD, Avalon was a better car.
I think it looks slick. I commute and will have some trips here and there. I don’t need a massive engine or muscle. Give me comfort. All day, everything, comfort is king.
To be honest, the Crown nameplate has always been one of elegance and comfort.
Personally, this Crown is absolutely beautiful.
Owning a S210 Crown has been amazing, reliable and comfortable.
This model is not perfect, it's a Camry not a Crown, the Crown insignia used to make you feel like you weren't even driving a Toyota.
Everywhere a Toyota sign is used to be a Crown
Uhhh no its a crown, it's the same internationally
I have the Heavy Metal Limited. Solid dark colors are the best looking. 42-45MPG. Large sedan with that kind of gas mileage is insane. I came from an Impala LTZ. Getting double the gas mileage. Go see it in person. It's badass. I love it.
I've already seen one before this review, so I have a feeling it will actually be relatively successful. I certainly like the styling better than the outgoing Avalon.
I do too, and people are getting bored with crossovers, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a break out success like an Explorer
Just an FYI the Platinum comes with a Direct Shift 6 speed automatic transmission not a CVT as stated at about the 5 minute mark.
One one hand, I do like it. But the two tone option is only available for the most expensive trim, and has less MPG then the lesser trims. And I want better mileage and storage space, with the addition of being able to use that space. So Im kinda dissapointed they didnt bring the estate version over first.
I think the high riding sedan concept will work with the crown. The issue the Volvo, Subaru counterparts had was you had to pay a premium to get it. It didn’t make sense to pay that much more when for almost the same money you could get the wagon body. With this, you don’t have to make that decision. If you want a full size Toyota, you get a full size Toyota. The only thing that may hold back crown sales is dealers tacking on ADM due to its nameplate.
I saw one of these the other day and it looks pretty good in person. Certainly different but in a good way.
Very nice got to see one in person today, I'd put one in my driveway.
My first car in 1977 was a 1969 Toyota Crown wagon. I had it for a week or 2. Couldn’t get it to run. Best car I ever had was 2011 Chrysler 300. Hemi, quiet, great looking, uncommon, And heated /cooled cup holders. Gotta drive a pickup now to get a V8 rear drive vehicle now.
In my opinion it lost a lot of the elegance of the earlier 90s models used to have by trying to make it so modern and updated. As someone whose family owns a crown majesta and as someone who sees them very often on the roads here in Bangladesh this new model would be very easy to miss because it doesn't make you say "Wow that's a Crown!" anymore. No offense to anyone who loves this new design but just giving my opinion.
11th, 12th, 13th gen Crown models are the most elegant and humble looking Crowns Toyota has ever made. It used to be very popular in Asian market.
And now , I can't even see it as a Crown. It's a weird looking, with a wide mouth face hatchback.
I've not seen any other Crown's in person, but the Crown Athlete sold elsewhere was a fantastic looking car.
I actually like the way it looks. If it’s not a hot seller, that will be good for me when I turn in my current vehicle next September!
It looks amazing
3:48 PM The gear selector is for D when you pull it back, and for R when you push it forward! Odd!
I kinda like it, lol. But I like my 2022 Avalon XSE Nightshade Hybrid better with 44 MPG. I am curious tho, does it have a Sport mode and did you use it? The difference between Normal mode and Sport mode on my Avalon is pretty significant. I leave it in Sport and still get 40+ MPG (summer...38 in winter).
FYI, the Platinum is the only model that does not come with a CVT. On the previous Avalon you could get the map in the middle to add. Also the gauge cluster is customizable. You can change the tech to digital or show the RMP gauges. Doug need to do more research on this car really.
"RMP gauges"? What the hecc are those? You mean RPM, like Tachometer? If so, why a plural version?
@@PetesCreativeRecycling critiquing people’s grammar is very mean spirited. It’s pretty obvious what the original person meant. Your comment just comes across as incredibly snarky.
6 speed automatic . Good point , that should be a big story , that Toyota is making a 6 speed automatic hybrid
@Spearmint / Latios Pete's own punctuation is incorrect by placing the second set of quotation marks inside the question mark. Also, capitalizing the word tachometer wasn't necessary. I totally agree with you, but generally, I believe we should be correct if we feel we must correct others. What he did was unnecessary.
@@psychiatry-is-eugenics 6 Speed AT Hybrid Transversal Gearbox?
Looks like a decent option for people who miss the Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis.
I rode in one the other day and he averages 45mpg and that thing was so nice, quiet, and comfy. I was blown away!
Saw it in Japan several months ago, it is actually a bold leap for the brand and is an interesting car
It's bizarre, but also really interesting. Still, kinda odd for a resurrection of the classic Toyota Crown. But I'm into weird cars like this, so I liked it
(Looks like we have an upcoming review of the Lexus IS300 Sportcross Wagon)
Or the Mazda Protege wagon
This is one of those cars that the shareholder meeting goes like…
“We either win big or fall flat for this one folks”
Maybe its the drab gray that makes the interior rather, uh, drab. Some two tone dash or contrast seat insert coloring would help. With its polarizing exterior styling (aren't most exteriors polarizing?) And as Doug points out Toyota has cars that already fit the overall purpose for the class wo will it just be cannibalizing those models? I'm interested to see if it makes Toyota's sales projections.
I honestly would love to travel in this thing, seems like really good tourer with tons of space and good fuel economy. It may not become a top seller but I think it's great that Toyota is trying something different. Vehicles are becoming so boring these days, at least they're offering some interesting options.
I drove past one in that same color the other day going in the opposite direction and was astonished at how cool it looked (granted, my glimpse of it lasted less than two seconds).
Agree, xianshep.
I think that small front sunroof has to do with the rake of the windshield as that bar is above the B pillars, where it should be.
You got it!
The Crown has always been a luxury car in Japan, positioned below only the Century. It's a very strange change of direction. Also, the Camry is the Americanized pronunciation of kanmuri which means crown in Japanese, so now they have two Crowns selling in the US. I don't know what to think about this.
Toyota used to sell the Corona too
I like it. Reminds me of the earlier Subaru legacies with that lifted look. Increased ground clearance makes a lot of sense in my city.
The Platinum model has a 6spd auto and not a CVT. Great video as always!
That would be reason alone to pick it
6 speed? In 2023? Come on Toyota, 8-10 speeds are the standard now. Although, they still have the last 5 speed auto in the 4Runner so maybe they're bucking the trend.
@@bwofficial1776yea but this one is a hybrid, and 6 speed auto makes sense in a hybrid now. The current gen Kia Sorento has a 6 speed auto with a hybrid.
This car takes me back to when car manufacturers didn't know what people wanted out of a crossover and tried to make trucks that look like cars instead of cars that look like trucks. It makes me think of the accord crosstour.
Accord Crosstour came to my mind as well, but this model seems better executed
Always, and still, liked the crosstour. Still see a ton out there. Seemed super cool, and utterly miserable sales wise
Pontiac Aztek vibes anyone?
Visiting Japan and just saw one of these on the road. Looks great!
Toyota is a hit or miss. My 2015 Camry had major problems around 120k miles. I traded it in for a Toyota Rav4 and it's been great so far
I actually saw one of these parked at a plaza near my house a few days back. It took me a good few minutes for me to figure out how to react to the design…a few minutes later I was still confused and I hopped into my little Corolla and took of confused!
Finally! I've been waiting for this Doug review forever. Lifted sedan is best sedan AND best SUV. Has been since the AMC Eagle back in the day. Love it.
I still have my 2014 Avalon Hybrid Limited with 100K miles. Never had even one problem. Very comfortable and good on gas.
I would consider this car if it is ad comfy as my Avalon. Will go to get a test drive soon.
love you Doug, in a good sense of course. Greetings from Chiapas Mexico.