Toyota's New Crown Shocks the Entire Car Industry
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If the new Toyota looks like that...they'll sell one car. To the museum for posterity. Most cars are look alike and now it seems the designers have gone back to basic ugliness...the cycle continues.
How many more shocks can the car industry take before it gives out, Scotty?
At least 4 a week for 15 more years! 🤣
He’s taking out his followers with all this shocking news!
I'm so sick of him using that line..
@Thomas, don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.
@@allan9603 I don't think Thomas can hold his breath for long.
Whoever wrote the script for this video needs a raise. This has to be the most informative video I have found regarding the Toyota Crown.
We love our 2023 Toyota Crown, especially ALL the safety features. Easy in n' out seating, great gas mileage, definitely a keeper for many years to come.
Had two Camry Hybrids that I took to 160k miles and 150k miles respectively. 1st was totaled when I got rear ended. 2nd I traded in when my wife wanted something new. Both were wonderful cars and incredibly reliable. That is ZERO problems. And not a hint of reduced efficiency due to battery wear, although I realized I was probably getting toward the end of battery life. Another thing to mention on those cars (2009 and 2012) while Toyota called their transmission CVT, it was for lack of a better term. The transmission was actually one set of planetary gears that stayed engaged all the time. No wear components like you’d get in a traditional transmission (CVT or otherwise) so I saw that as a reliability trade off with the battery. The best cars I’ve owned.
I still drive my 2012 Camry Hybrid and have had much the same experience. The battery drives like it’s new and I’ve never done more than basic maintenance and replaced the front shocks. I’m getting ready to pass it to my son for his first car.
@@Egalitarianism_Secularism They really are the best for fuel economy without range anxiety. I”ve since passed on my Camry and picked up a Toyota Crown. It’s a hybrid and a real fuel sipper, as well. I have just over 1,300 miles on it and I’ve used about two and a half tanks of gas. I really don’t think I will ever own a non-hybrid again.
Thanks, Scotty! We bought a Crown in march and so far, we’re very pleased.
We recently purchased a 2024 Toyota Crown in the platinum trim level and we love it! It definitely has a unique look and in the bronze two tone it’s a classy look. Glad there is a distinctive sedan on the market that’s not boring. Love your channel Scotty keep up the great work.
I'm vacationing in Japan at the moment, I saw one of these new Toyota Crowns in Yokohama city just three days ago. A fine looking car, if you can come to terms with the "unique" body paint scheme. It's a Toyota so it'll be a good'un. Many years ago, (1975), I owned a 1963 Crown wagon with the 2.0 litre 3R engine, then a 1969 Crown wagon with a 2.3 litre straight six they were both "brilliant" vehicles and were great to drive.
vacationing in Japan? I need to consider that for myself
As a watcher of the car industry, I was not only shocked, but bewildered, dismayed and quite frankly, flummoxed at this new revelation.
Scott I remember researching Toyota hybrid batteries before I bought my first prius in 2014. I believe it was a Consumer Reports study that showed prius batteries are extremely reliable and long lasting as they had tested numerous batteries with 200,000 to 300,000 miles and still retained like 98% of their efficiency. I was immediately convinced to buy a prius. I'm hoping to enjoy my 2018 for hundreds of thousands of trouble free miles 😊
Why don't you still have the 2014?
@@ADDwithJTCour2014 prius cost more now then when we bought it in 2017. Insane
Was that 200-300k on the battery or the car overall?
Stuff the consumer report - the majority of taxi drivers drive Auris/Prius/Corollas. That’s why I bought a Lexus CT200 - now 10 years old with 100% perfect reliability.
I think the NYC Taxis are a testament to Toyota's hybrids being reliable.
I know it takes alot to edit videos like this but I really do love them. Thank you.
It would be interesting to have you compare technology, efficiency and the cost the Rav4 hybrid, the Camry hybrid and the Crown hybrid.
Scotty, your content should be course material for a high school/college elective. You could license the vids in several series to universities and students could learn about, and fix their own automobiles, and earn credits. Publish more books. I have two of them, but for the schools to sell students. They should give you an honorary "Mechanical Engineering Degree", because you have taught and informed me about auto stuff I was hazy on. You clear it up, and it saves me money. This is good stuff. Very ineresting and focused correctly. Good clear production as well.😉
Lol
You realize this video was produced by Toyota...right. You think he can make those graphics. He is literally reading a script. lol
We had a Crown for 25 years in Japan. Wife didn’t like the new Crown and it’s difficult to get in/out of. Our Japanese dealer told us Toyota will produce a 2024 Crown sedan in late 2024.
As for us we ordered a Toyota Harrier (Venza) and should be available in early November.
Harrier is no longer the Lexus Rx didn't know that it's now the venza.
I just got a Venza here in the US. It's by far the nicest car I have ever owned. It's a limited trim, and has every feature Scotty mentioned that the, "Crown", has. I'm getting 46-47+ mpg, not the 39 he mentions. It will switch to EV mode anytime it doesn't need a lot of power, I've seen it happen at 75 mph.
I saw the new Crown in Japan recently. It's absolutely magnificent in the flesh. I want one.✅️
Though it isn't my kind of vehicle , it looks pretty cool and modern. .
Thank you so much. I was researching about the crown history, and no one explained it as well as you did. Very informative and educational. Thank you so much.
I like the look of the Crown!
The rear looks unfinished though. All they did was put a line, they could have done more with it
I love the Crown. It looks like no other. My brother bought one on my recommendation and everywhere he goes Tesla owners are overcome with awe and envy.
Scotty has no "OFF SWITCH".🤣
The crown looks pretty sweet. That may be the biggest selling point. Sweet class A combined with other selling points like mpg and extra space
I saw one of these the other day and I thought it was very interesting and impressive looking!
I think the battery is going to be the issue with these cars when looking at the second-hand car market. People will keep them from new, then around the battery life expectancy, trade them in.
As with all used cars, you're buying someone else's problems but knowing possibly $1000s of dollars right off the bat. I know I wouldn't.
From what I understand, with the hybrid set up, you don't really rely on the high voltage battery to operate the vehicle. This is a great advantage over other set ups because your engine will just run more if the battery is pooched. No biggy.
Big deal. You probably have bad credit anyway.
What the hell, did I miss something here? What's so shocking about this vehicle, my guess is nothing at all.
That is what’s shocking! A car that’s supposed to shock the industry has nothing shocking is very shocking
Only 6k cars sold. Shocking
⭐️ crossovers are just sporty station wagons... 😅
There were other Crowns not mentioned. Anyone who has been to Singapore knows the durability and longevity of the Crown Diesel used as taxis. These are full sized 6 pass stately cars that run for decades. Toyota has lots of great cars that never made it to the US. Id pay double if I could have a Toyota full sized van.
Thank you Scotty. Very informative as always especially about the Crown.
i rented a hybrid a few years ago when my lexus was in for service. i was surprised how nice it was. i would have no problem buying one, but knowing about the battery issue scotty brought up is good to know, as i always buy used cars. let someone else pay for the new car smell.
The money you save on other maintenance will go most of the way towards paying for the hybrid battery replacement. Toyota batteries are designed to last for the life of the car, though. If you take care of them, it’s not a problem.
I think Crown will sell well because it still drives like a car with greater performance, has plenty of room and great gas mileage. That's my kind of a car!
I’m seriously considering getting one.
I think the thing that turns me off about the hybrids is the added complexity. As an engineer, I'm well aware of the fact that a product that has more components & complexity is inherently less reliable...
The hybrid does have some advantages, at least Toyotas do. The transmission is a planetary gear set connected to a hybrid motor and the engine, so there are no clutches to wear out. There’s no torque converter, starter, or alternator (those are functions of a hybrid motor), and the A/C compressor and water pump are both electric. They only operate when needed and their mechanical components are spared a lot of wear when they aren’t. Maintenance costs are also significantly lower. My 2012 Camry Hybrid still has the factory brake pads thanks to the regenerative braking system.
@@PrinceAlbertsomg factory brake pads
@@sherwannasradin I know, right? Wear and tear on a hybrid in general is substantially lower than on an ICE vehicle.
@@PrinceAlbertsHow do you think your 2012 Camry Hybrid would stack up against the Toyota Crown?
The crown is replacing the Avalon, not the Camry....
No s real crown and I rather have a Avalon
No the crown is being shipped to Western markets. It's Toyota's longest standing model. I have an 2005 S180 series Crown Athlete. A sedan.
Finally seen one in CA. It is hidious.
The "replacement" for the classy Avalon. Not A Chance.
Yep, the front end is truly awful
100% agree! Otherwise, would purchase the Platinum. However, the front end of the now-extinct most-recent Avalon was also a mess in my opinion.
I wish Toyota would offer a non hybrid version of the crown. Then I would probably buy one.
Great production quality Scotty!
Awesome information video! 🤩
The Crown really does check all the boxes for my needs. All wheel drive, great gas milage, Toyota reliability and it's lifted for the occasional dirt roads. I love it and I'm hoping to get one soon.
Thanks for another great video, Scotty! My wife loves her 2018 Avalon Limied. I love my 2021 Venza Limited. Both are comfortable to drive and get around 40mpg. So if we decide to trade in our two "loves" for a single vehicle, the Crown has the best features of the Avalon and Venza.
This was a really good one Scotty 👌🏾
Wow I like how Scotty Mentioned the Crowns that were made before entering the US and the ones brought to the US & then just like most US reviewers, totally skipped out/ ignored all the other Crowns that were made in the 80s, 90s, 2000s ~ up til 2019 ;D
I was smiling and chuckling as I watching the video. I drive a 19 year old Avalon. My next ideal Toyota described: manual transmission, not driven off road, no 4 wheel drive, no computer on each tire, no need to hook up to electricity at home or on the road, no heated seats.
Just got the crown in July...we love it, drives awesome. Great 9n gas. We dtove it from Austin Texas to Rapid City S. Dakota....drove awesome. People always comment on how the car kooks.
Great review/ comparison
I can't wait for The Car Care Nut to do a full review!
Thank you for the history lesson, Scotty. I wish I could meet you in real life as you are my hero. I like you for your honesty and no sugar coating opinion.
Great post. My wife drove her Celica GT-S for 18 years. I may take a serious look at the Crown.
1974 Crown manual 4 speed was a great car , my old man had two of them and he was a panel beater / spray painter , and he had a 1970 before that , I learnt how to drive on the 2 nd one , it kept up with 4.1 fords on the highways at full tilt ... The Crown is a legend , in Japan
And I read that the Crown has a nimh battery pack, like the earlier Prius hybrids, not the highly flammable lithium battery. That one feature would cause me to consider the Crown.
Upgrading from my 2023 Prius limited AWD to the 2025 Toyota Crown Platinum. I’ll be upgrading the RAV4 hybrid to the Crown Signia when they release the platinum version. Beautiful vehicles they really nailed it.
How do theses things hold up in Arizona heat,everyone here has to replace batteries and window electrical components every every two years,can’t imagine what electric engines would cost!
Great review as usual, Scotty! 👍😀
It may not be the car I'd buy for my hard earned but it's definitely something I wouldn't mind driving.
As for hybrid, Toyota's hybrid system is pretty good. Somebody in my family who just wanted to have a small run-around, bought a Prius C many years ago and it's been a reliable vehicle. Toyota's servicing cost (in Australia) has also been lower than for most competitors. (We still have nightmares about Mazda, in that regard.)
In the family, we've had a few Toyotas over a decades and they proved to be among the most reliable cars, compared to all the other brands we had. There were some years when Toyota made what you could call "appliances" but a few years ago they even started to make fun, sporty cars again.
As for me, I'm keeping my eyes peeled for an FJ Cruiser reincarnation. The only thing that pushed me onto a competitor in the last minute was the ugly look of the FJ. In hindsight, maybe I should've got one. They have legendary reliability, from owners' reports. A few years ago, some FJ Cruiser concept drawings were circulating but unfortunately, that vehicle looked like it had been redesigned for Barbie and Ken, for when they go the beach a few times a year.
Got our 2024 Crown Platinum 2 months ago.
It was hands down the best riding car we test drove.
Nice piece 👏👏👏👏
I suspect the taller stature of the Crown is because eventually it will have a huge battery eventually as a EV.
Exactly why they got people used to bulky high profile vehicles.
I remember "Scotty" starting, in an earlier video, that the Avalon, the car that the "Crown" is replacing, was so much BETTER than "THE CROWN!?' So, Scotty, what happened, why the sudden support for the cheaper made, 4- Cylinder Crown, all of a sudden, over the better made, 6- Cylinder Avalon???🤔
Seen them at the dealer. They are sharply styled
I love the Crown. More room for the driver than the Venza. Was skeptical of the CVT, but I watched your video on Toyotas CVT. Thanks, Scotty.
There are several Toyotas in my extended family. Every one has been great - few if any repairs, fantastic reliability.
That thing doesn't even look bad, except for that HIDEOUS, OVERSIZED front grill.
R.I.P. Avalon
I had one of those back in 1985. It was slow but never broke down.
Good stuff scotty.
As a Camry Hybrid owner for several years, I can speak to benefits and downsides. Benefits are with in city and rolling hill suburban driving fuel economy. The downsides are fuel economies with long distance and mountain drives. The small 4 cylinder engines are not efficient in those conditions. Very cold weather increases fuel consumption as the system tries to bring the engine and hybrid electric systems up to optimal operating temperatures. Two cooling systems and the long term battery maintenance or replacement have increased maintenance costs. I have paid them.
Current internal combustion engines achieve the same or better fuel economies as my decade and a half old Camry hybrid, without the downsides. My replacement will most likely be a conventional internal combustion engine in a sedan or crossover. My winter fuel costs will be better by 15-18%.
We love our’22 Camry hybrid, 47.8 mpg on the hiway at 75 mph, 52.8 around town.
I would love to have one. BUT I fear there is too much driver assist "Options" that are just more crap to break. I'm a Carolla\Camery fan. It has to be DIY for me to allow it.
Well going off of Lexus in my experience they usually let u remove all the driver assists on the gauge menu. I doubt they'll remove that option.
The plug in hybrid with forty mile range is the lowest CO2 emission vehicle if CO2 released during manufacture is also considered.
Hiya Scotty, I think the new Toyota Crown is a great looking Vehicle. Even though it’s a hybrid, Toyota have had the experience of hybrids more than any other manufacturer and as such. Based upon their experience with this technology compared to its rivals. I would assess that this car is going to sell really well.
I drive for Enterprise. Drove a new plug-in hybrid Chrysler Pacifica to the Portland Airport yesterday. Smooth. We drive many different kinds of cars. I like the hybrids. So do the customers.
Americans never received the best Crowns. We Australians got lucky. Some of the best Crowns were from the 80’s, 90s, 2000’s and the 2014 models. They were absolutely spectacular! They were on par with the Lexus LS. We own a 2001 Toyota Crown Royal Saloon G model and it’s breathtaking!
Just purchased a 2023 Toyota Crown and my wife really likes it. We traded our 2012 Avalon limited and I miss a few features it had over the XLE but nothing serious. Rides and drives great but the interior is a like less stylish than our Avalon I think. The trunk is a little smaller but big enough for large suitcases. We like the higher entry into the car over the Avalon and the seats seem more comfortable. If the Crown lasts 12 years like the Avalon did and I get the same trade in value I will be a happy camper.
The whole industry has been shocked to ashes at this point.
@@clapdouglas or that thief in home alone 2….
They're like copper thieves at this point, there's nothing left but beef jerky and Looney Tunes foot prints next to the fuse box.
Thank you.
i just bought platinum hybrid max, and i love it
The Crossover isn't the only model of Crown; Toyota has three other variants: Sedan (RWD), Sport, and Estate. The standard RWD Crown Sedan is already in production.
Looks more like a bigger hatchback (or estate if you're from the UK) to me. Personally I like my hatchback's with a more square back like the Golf. It's just a more practical use of space but I'm sure the crown is more flexible than the Camry. Camry's are good cars just not as flexible as a hatchback.
First of all, thank you for sharing your professional knowledge to the public.
How would you rate the 2018 Audi A3 sport back e-torn 1.4 T Tecknik fwd 6sp s tronic?
Thanks in advance!
I purchased my first car during the petrol price rise and got a great deal on a Datsun 260c which is the crown competitor
Great history lesson.
Well the crowns are a mix of Lexus and Toyota it's more than a full spec Camry and in between Lexus features usually a very nice car as a Toyota ❤️
Great history, had a neighbour in Regina, Sk and I can’t recall it bad motor. Wasn’t a comparison to Duster or a Maverick/ Grabber. But fixed the ‘74 Mustang 0:00
Scotty, thanks for doing this vid. I'm an oldster and am looking for a 'living room on wheels' kinda ride. I want no road-feel and those damn potholes in my area bug the hell out of me. Isolation from the road, quiet ride, easy on gas and comfy qualities are my main desires. I have a 2020 Acura MDX right now and think its okay but it needs a more silent, comfy ride factor. Do you think the Crown might suit my needs? I have ridden in a new Genesis GV70 SUV, a somewhat older Lexus NX SUV, a slightly older Caddy SUV, many Honda SUVs plus some others, yet they all fail doing what I'm looking for. Please help! Cheers.
Buy my Toyota Previa
I would still have to go for a Camry because I think it's one of the last gas engine non-turbo non-CVT cars left.
But they are gutless
Your thoughts on CVT transmissions? I am leary of them. Thanks. I really enjoy your videos.
He has a video dedicated to CVT transmissions with 2.5 million views.
@@CrispyHulk1 thanks
It has a eCVT which is way different than a traditional CVT. My wife has a 2024 Lexus NX350H and it drives , sounds and shifts way differently than any CVTs I have ridden on.
The Toyota e-CVT system is simplicity and bulletproof. No clutches or brakes or chains. Not even a torque converter. No starter or alternator either.
Like your vids and info. At 69 years old I have a hard time with the new direction of vehicles. EVs and hybrids have not been around long enough to convince me of them being long lasting. Why this direction. The car companies always saying last 100K-200K. Yep and then practically have to take a long new to buy new battery. They are also too complex and expensive. Not sure believe the surveys that say hybrid are long lasting and dependable. Except for the Prius no other hybrids have been around that long. BTW 1993 Camry with 305K miles. Not having to buy a battery. LOL😊
The 340hp Platinum Max rocks 🤘🍻
I love the idea of "Generator Vehicles."
Vehicles that can sustain themselves while in motion. As it drives it charges. No need for plug in charging or fuel!!!! Figure that out and get back with me. .. 😉
The Ford 500 which became the 2008-09 Tarus was a raised sedan and a great car.
When are you going to make a video about the new 23 toyota prius?
I drove the crown and loved it! Maybe if they make it a hatchback.
My dad said that he's never buying another hybrid vehicle because the cost of replacing the battery, he went through 3 batteries and each cost $2500. on the 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid.
And they were probably "reconditioned" batteries, iffy at best. Watched a video on the CarCareNut wherein the battery was replaced on a Toyota, and if I recall correctly, about $6K for the battery from Toyota, plus the technician. Definitely not a do-it-yourself project on the subject vehicle. In the case of your father, $7500 will purchase a LOT of gas!
This is the first Generation Crown I dont like. The previous 15 Generations were genius high tech elegant cars with extremly smooth 6 and 8 cylinder engines. This 16. Gen looks unusual and cheap inside. It looks like a bigger Prius. The Crown 2022 was the last great looking crown.
I'm weird, can't get into SUV's but have a thing for lifted sedans, Outback Sedan, Volvo S60 Cross Country Sedan, and now this crazy beast. (and wagons of course).
SHOCKING...it's a new sedan with big wheels and thin tires to replace the Avalon.
SUVs like the Outback were meant for gravel and snowy muddy roads in places like Wyoming. The closest this will come to offroading is when your 16yo daughter accidentally backs over the flower bed.
If they limit the rear black paint to just the trunklid, it'll match the front and look much better .
Look at Volvo cross country if you want more room and ground clearance with aerodynamics. V60 and v90 wagons. Subaru has Outback too and MB has all terrain etc. Kind of cool look of lifted wagons.
Good info -- and, dang, the production quality of your videos has jumped way up!
How hard is it to change the regenative braking battery?
It's kinda nice. I'm getting the lease vibe over the buy.
I love a hybrid. My son got a Ford Fusion Hybrid in 2017. No problems whatsoever great mileage almost 100,000 miles on it still original brakes. An all around great car. Ford screwed up when the stopped making them. We are looking at the Escape Hybrid AWD. Who knows. Might check out a Toyota!!!!
Love it ❤ my next car ! Yes I trust Toyota & Lexus hybrid this will be my 3 rd one lexus HS 250 camery hybrid XSE and next the crown to replace my HS 250 hybrid .
Looks like a fantastic car. I wonder how it compares to high end Lexus sedans? Thanks
So how does the Cross' road clearance height and characteristics compare to older sedans from the 60's and 70's? Is it giving back more of what we used to have?
True. Just take a look how 1960 mustangs looked. Great in snow even with ground clearance they had.
Yes cause I have 2 70s 4 doors and they sit a lot higher then any sedan today