I don't think it's a matter of "too much toilet humor" but a matter of the jokes themselves just sucked in bl3 compared to bl2. It comes down to the writing
I do think the first part was a little but of a problem too im fine with goofy but we still enjoy a serious tone especially for the story but goofy side quests and minimal humor in the main dialogue would be appreciated
the whole streamer gimmick was really tiresome. and maybe it could have been a better done if one of the twins was comedic but the othher was deadly serious. or maybe they where always doomed to failure trying to follow up handsome jack.
Honestly bl3's story had the potential to be great. You can see it in the main story but it's like someone who made a good draft got fired and it got handed to a shitty fanfic writer.
@@benjaminmacpherson1336 basically this yeah the concept of twin sirens was really cool and delving into that further could've been great and unifying all the psychos across the galaxy is insane I think they started doing too much with the streamer thing mixed with like a religion basically if they leaned more into one or the other plus actually let the two have a personality and feel more unique to each other it coulda been good but we basically only really heard about Tyreen, troy got 5 minutes in the spotlight then DIES then it's back to tyreen again felt like troy was more of a side character and the minute it got more interesting with the rivalry between them now that Troy was self sustaining and instead of continuing with that they just kill him off before we got to know more about him
Yall dont seem to understand the 4 roles almost every vault hunter has fallen under. There is always these 4 roles in a borderlands: The Soldier The Siren The Sniper/Stealth The Wildcard Pre-Sequel was a weird one because all of these roles got mixed around in there. But other than that one game, the other 3 followed this formula, with a bit of mix and matching as well. Borderlands 2 just added more variety with DLC characters in a mech and a psycho
@@ZachofPotatoes732 You missed my point, look at all the comments trying to guess and how many of them say something like "tank". Borderlands has never really had a tank class, just one thats harder to kill than others. Its not like there's ever been a class that intentionally drags aggro away from players I was just pointing out there's always been a pattern, even for TPS though its much more difficult to tell with that one
@@reyth9887 Salvador did have an ultimate skill actually that would draw attention and other stuff. Probably his best tree. I think what they mean by ‘tank’ is just a beefy looking guy. So far every game but 3 has had one
Tales really was the perfect mix, it was fun but it knew when it had to take itself seriously too, but at the same time never delved too far into either parody or melodrama. I'd stand by it being the funniest too, having Jack shittalking while Rhys is trying not puke during the Skin Pizza scene might be the best gag in the series.
They don’t need to top jack all of you just need to move on and give them the room to create a good villain. Jack is why we got tyreen and her brother and we hated them. I really hope the kept Jack completely out of mind for these villains
Gearbox's need to top Handsome Jack is why we got some subpar villains. Just let Jack go and concentrate on making a good villain. That is all they need to do. Give us a good villain, regardless if he or she is better than Jack or not, that is all we want.
Agreed it doesn't have to be perfectly but good enough to enjoy playing through again would be nice bl3 story genuinely kinda was a drag to play through until you got to the end and it was a little more interesting
@@goufr3540 He also wrote for the BL3 DLCs that were very well-received compared to the main story. Not sure what was wrong with Wonderlands' story but he worked on Assault on Dragon Keep so it makes sense he came back for it.
@@Zoidberryable Simply put, his writing has gotten worse, just cause he wrote for Dragon Keep does not mean he can keep on writing. As the stories of everything onward has been shit and likely to get worse. I would rather take someone good from BL1 over him, get some real dark humor and stories again.
Okay, here is the big question... did Gear Box finally find all the left handed guns that got vented into space along with the grappling hooks and jet packs?
I think the big giy is the tank, the girl with tatoos is a siren, the guy on the far left looks like the soldier, and the black girl looks tech based like zane
@qlasalle who knows? I just hope they're cool and not broken at launch like how Zane was in bl3. Also, i wish they gave us the option to create a new character at the current max once we finish the campaign. I dont wanna olay through it multiple times to try out each character
While the new VHs look boring and bland, in my opinion, this could be a sign of two possible things. One, we get amazing customization and character creation or two, we are possibly getting dlc characters again and they will look more badass. I hope it is both tbh, but I wouldn't mind dlc characters coming back more as the classes that came from those dlc characters felt unique
I kinda thought they might have been just placeholders (besides the siren). Specifically the smaller guy on the left, kinda colorless and really reminds me of zane at first look
@@mattie.f00 agreed, even though most VHs have had tank skill trees they are usually an afterthought for me as a player. Hopefully the big guy is the melee class, the Borderlands series does those pretty well.
The problem was never that the toilet humor was over done - the problem was that BL3 complettly fucked up the timing for when to drop jokes and when to let a scene cook. BL1 was largely a very dry game in terms of story and humor, the actual "Borderlands Humor" and "Borderlands Story Telling" came in with BL2 and they struck gold. They had stupid jokes left and right getting a chuckle out of us but they rolled it back in the more serious scenes like the death of a character or someone coping with loss. BL3 just took a big fat dump on every even slightly serious story scene and just splattered semi good humor all over the canvas. BL3 just overwhelmed with poorly timed jokes that often just disrespected established characters. I mean yes in Lore Lilith might not be the smartest and made a bunch of stupid decisions but was that video all over the screnes really necessary? Not even talk about the absolut disgusting treatment Maya got. To this day i would like to know whos idea it was because ..... i just wanna talk
Toilet humor can be ok. Hawk 2A as a gun wouldve been comical if applied right. I think the dlc should add vault hunters instead of just skill trees. The complaint about the "generic" vault hunter is wild considering theyve always looked generic at the beginning and skins/heads usually make them stand out more.
And even then, while some of these designs are a bit generic (I think the big guy and Siren are pretty good, the other two are just a bit generic), it's not bad generic, just neutral. Like as much as people compare these to Concord, Concord's designs are outright *bad*. These aren't bad, just a couple of them are just ok and could use some work to refine them.
I’m fine if the story takes a more serious tone but at least let the side quest contain the raunchy “toilet humor.” To me that is part of the charm of borderlands.
Idk why but that one playable character guy looks familiar. The one to the left of the siren. He looks like an asset they used before in a previous game, but I can't place my finger on who.
The title is kinda weird, because you deliver no real information about the Vault Hunter classes. In terms of design i really like three out of the four Vault Hunters. Siren is pretty cool looking, especially with the pink/purple markings, instead of the usual blue, the big guy looks like a tech viking tank or brute and the other female VH looks kinda like a Maliwan Heavy, which could be very cool. Only the other guy looks not as interesting, but this changes for me when we see him with the blades. Maybe the new characters will have more interesting skins that make them more unique in some ways (for people who don't like the standard designs).
Three changes are must: 1) Game needs a darker tone. 2) Combat needs to be difficult enough to demand some thinking instead of just mindless shooting, which gets boring real quick. 3) Weapons should complement builds instead of just having its own unique effect.
I still don't have high hopes for the story but those Cyborg Bandits are freaking look cool as hell especially if they have fun or unique mechanics like with the loaders or the maliwan enemies from bl3 just. it was always fun to shoot the backpack on some of maliwan and watch them run into a wall or blow up. I'm not against there being memes in the game especially if they're just Easter eggs or a random unique gun just as long as it's not in your face and a part of the main story. I also don't think I'll be able to convince any of my friends get the game and I don't blame them.
After seeing the new vault hunters for a while I’m actually really into the designs. Other vault hunters haven’t been the most standout (Roland, arguably Mordecai, Roland, arguably Sal, Moze, Amara). These new designs feel a bit grittier I think to work with the new story direction. Most of what I think makes a Vault Hunter iconic is their unique abilities and as of BL3 their personality and quips.
Everyone who's saying the Vault hunters look boring did they forget Borderlands 1? And Salvador? Axton? Those Vault hunters looked way more boring in my opinion These new Vault Hunters actually look pretty Cool and I can't wait to play as them
Something I'd LOVE to see but the devs probs won't do is: A Co-op focused Skilltree like in Presequel. I loved playing baroness and doing coop contractor, having massive bonuses just for doing what you were gonna anyways and buffing another party member to boot was nice. Having an semblance of this past "Health regen here, mech turret there," would be nice.
that would be cool but I doubt that they would do that since the other games didn't have multiple endings and it could get messy when they work on borderlands 5.
4:04 I mistaken the left guy for Zane when I first seen the trailer. Hopefully it has Wonderlands character creation but I doubt it. Borderlands 3 didn't add dlc characters which sucked.
Character creation should be exclusive to wonderlands, it isn't good for a main game feature. It's way more interesting to play as a character with an actual backstory and history and that can reappear in the future. I used to want this too though until I thought about it more.
I don't give a s*** What the character looks like, you never see them anyway. It's not really a big deal in my book. As long as the gameplay is fun, the story is entertaining. And the build diversity is decent for each class. I will be happy.
Gotta say, as someone who briefly played 3, those characters (physically) weren't memorable at all. Hell the moment I found a pigeon helm, that thing never came off. Only thing that was, was the voice acting and their character through that. Edit: so basically, I don't care at all for their base design and am totally fine if it makes the skins look better, cause that's all I do care about when it comes to the Hunter's looks.
@@no-ge5mu Of course they are and that's prob why Zane's making a return. My comment was more towards the physical appearance and people complaining about BL4's.
@@Krolshi I can agree the vault hunters look bland but the other games look at the vault hunters they don’t look like anything crazy some of them stand at yes but most of them look basic by default and the cosmetics is what’s memorable
Please let the big Viking guy have a melee skill tree I get it the duel blades guy is the melee class but it’s literally a huge Viking guy with elemental axes he gotta chop something in half up close
Yeah idk why people are all of a sudden calling the vault hunters boring. Probably cause they didn't show a lot of the skills? Like just the vault hunters alone all look boring if you take away their skills.
Thank u they act like the characters have been the craziest most badass designs previously, lol like in blands 2 zero was the most unique designed vault hunter excluding dlc and he’s just a possible humanoid alien lol
To be fair, Zero and Fl4k did stand out. Zayne and Salvador had more special Features aswell. 🤔 not that they had crazy designs, they just stood out for me somehow! But you're right we did not see anything yet, so it's way to early for shit talk. Charakterwriting would surely be interesting, aswell as seeing those flashy skills!
@@bastiflicker2521 zero was literally a black and white monotone voiced (maybe)robot thing. The like... The definition of boring lol No hate though cause i loved playing as zero.
i don't know, the bl3 vault hunters just felt special. as much as people didnt like the game, the zane, flak and moze trailers had so much personality. i'm looking at these new vhs and instead of thinking of who's the one i wanna play the most im thinking of who's the least boring lol
It pretty much says it all that literally the only vault hunter that actually sticks out to me is the robo-viking. Which isn't too bad actually but still very much feels like a first draft that needed more work.
Hot take: I want a way to level weapons up. Destiny and First Descendant, even if it's never 100% the same. Of course they need us to refarm to keep player retention, but damn it would be cool. Maybe a way to have content that renerates new content to keep it active (different versions of bosses; a mode where things change; etc.). While some people don't like modifiers, I do like fun modifiers.
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t have a character creator this time around, considering they had it in Wonderlands and that was one of the more interesting parts of that game.
What I haven’t seen here is references to pacing. It’s not the humor that breaks it. It’s that you can’t break passed it. In bl2 if a character was talking, 9/10 times (should be 10/10) you could just click the glowy thing and they would stop. In BL 3 you HAD to sit there and listen. And it’s obvious how clueless they are about it because there are literal quest objectives that pop up in the MAIN STORY which says to listen to a character. While other times you are just stuck listening for *minutes* before the next objective pops up. Listening should be the single most recurring objective in the game.
I think people are being too harsh on the Vault Hunter designs. Sure, the hunters in 3 were insanely colorful and well designed, but every other game's hunters were mostyl dominated by characters who could fit the same criticism, with the Sirens and Zer0 kind of being the only exceptions
While BL3 didn't have a great story, I mainly play Borderlands for gameplay and in that aspect, BL3 hit it out of the park. Give me more of that amazing gameplay and I'll be happy.
I'd love for the series to get back to the original's writing. The humor was... not dark per se, but like, death and stuff was so commoplace it didn't really bother or surprise people that much. It's kinda like they were bored of it, actually. So the humor was us laughing at the circumstances when compared to our normal lives, and not game trying to force a laugh. Everything was bleak and deadpan for the most part, and I loved it. But then Tales (the original one) was also incredibly funny for other reasons, so. Also, please just treat lore and the characters with respect. BL3 felt like a fanfic sometimes.
think i can get through the storyline of all the previous games and dlc before this drops? Only ever got through the base BL1 game and zombie island, maybe general knoxx's armory but i honestly forget if I got through that or not.
People are going to bitch about character designs now because they've been conditioned to. They'd have bitched about 3's and 2's if they came out today. "They look like any old NPC" tells it. Borderlands NPC's tend to look just as good as the Vault Hunters. Given theres a not inconsiderable overlap between those two categories.
Seems to be darker in tone and I'm here for it as someone who thought the other three games should have toned it down a bit and took themselves a touch more serious.
I hope that the one of cyborg Viking action skill is brick action skill and I know "it's a redskin of bricks action skill" but what about armara's phasegrasp aka phaselock and fade away is deception
4:10 new VH all looks like they could serve you coffe in Starbucks*, they have that hipster barista vibe ;) I feel like other games have more distinct player characters. But its just first impresion, and after hearing their voice, and seeing what they do in the game this may change. *well, maybe the "tank" will make you a craft burger instead in his overpriced foodtruck.
I feel like the vault hunters we play as seem too much like side characters. They don’t have anything that makes them stand out from other npcs in the game. In borderlands I think they’re even npcs that are more diverse than this main cast.
If the humor is toned down I'll consider it. Maybe it's just because I started at BL1, but I loved the more serious tone of the first game. Borderlands just became so rediculous that it was nearly impossible to keep my attention. It's not like I don't like humor in games, but i swear BL3 had to try to sneak a gag into every line and it just became obnoxiously immature.
I just hope they change the character design a little or the costume you can unlock look better than how the characters look in the trailer. They look like baristas which is such a drop in unique design vs previous characters like FL4K, psycho or Zero😭
I hope they bring back the 2 extra vault hunters with the dlc's. Also, I don't want to see another calypso twins style boss. They were the worst thing about bl3. Hopefully they port it to the switch 2 lol
Ok ngl i would love to find a gun called the hawk 2A in this game. I hate the awful joke dialogue but when it comes to gun names and descriptions I love references to real world memes and shit like that.
Im hype love borderlands all borderlands they can't do wrong by me cause it's all about gameplay shooting and looting can't be done better than borderlands
I can’t wait! I love the series, BL3 and Prequel as well! I just hope the DLC is actually DLC because that shit on TTW was ass. I don’t think BL3 had good DLC either, can’t remember. Also, i just want to know who the melee class is? Maybe the cybernetic blade guy.
Kind of weird to say the characters arent “iconic” when the characters are only iconic after you get to know them. A lot of the vault hunters look pretty generic if you take out the lore. I think they have just transitioned to a more consistent body shape instead of lanky people like mordecai and zero and stout people like salvador
Hot take: Loot and gun quantity doesn't mean anything if 87% of the 'millions' of guns are shit
@@kalebbruhshaw9802 agreed, loot should be like destiny or remnant where most of the guns have unique perks or just something very unique.
a BAZILLION guns, not "millions"
Some should be bad to help prop up the good ones but agree with the opinion of destiny or remnant approach
"If every gun is OP, none of them are OP" - some angry redhead
@@Highway_Tollman Purple or better should all be viable in some fashion or another.
I don't think it's a matter of "too much toilet humor" but a matter of the jokes themselves just sucked in bl3 compared to bl2. It comes down to the writing
I do think the first part was a little but of a problem too im fine with goofy but we still enjoy a serious tone especially for the story but goofy side quests and minimal humor in the main dialogue would be appreciated
the whole streamer gimmick was really tiresome. and maybe it could have been a better done if one of the twins was comedic but the othher was deadly serious. or maybe they where always doomed to failure trying to follow up handsome jack.
Honestly bl3's story had the potential to be great. You can see it in the main story but it's like someone who made a good draft got fired and it got handed to a shitty fanfic writer.
@@benjaminmacpherson1336 basically this yeah the concept of twin sirens was really cool and delving into that further could've been great and unifying all the psychos across the galaxy is insane I think they started doing too much with the streamer thing mixed with like a religion basically if they leaned more into one or the other plus actually let the two have a personality and feel more unique to each other it coulda been good but we basically only really heard about Tyreen, troy got 5 minutes in the spotlight then DIES then it's back to tyreen again felt like troy was more of a side character and the minute it got more interesting with the rivalry between them now that Troy was self sustaining and instead of continuing with that they just kill him off before we got to know more about him
@@benjaminmacpherson1336 I know, just makes me more pissed about the shit plate we got served in the end
Give me a borderlands 3 with a better story and more than just 4 VHs and I already would be very happy
And better balancing. The bh3 mods did wonders for balancing and overhauls
Getting 6 vault hunters from the go would have been dope
people actually liked the villians? I had to mute them, they were insanely annoying.
I really hope it steers far away from 3 and goes more back to 2 and pre sequel
@@WackNoir to be fair borderlands 3 was definitely an upgrade in balancing compared to borderlands 2 already
Yall dont seem to understand the 4 roles almost every vault hunter has fallen under. There is always these 4 roles in a borderlands:
The Soldier
The Siren
The Sniper/Stealth
The Wildcard
Pre-Sequel was a weird one because all of these roles got mixed around in there. But other than that one game, the other 3 followed this formula, with a bit of mix and matching as well. Borderlands 2 just added more variety with DLC characters in a mech and a psycho
Is that a bad thing though?
@@ZachofPotatoes732 You missed my point, look at all the comments trying to guess and how many of them say something like "tank". Borderlands has never really had a tank class, just one thats harder to kill than others. Its not like there's ever been a class that intentionally drags aggro away from players
I was just pointing out there's always been a pattern, even for TPS though its much more difficult to tell with that one
@@reyth9887 Salvador did have an ultimate skill actually that would draw attention and other stuff. Probably his best tree.
I think what they mean by ‘tank’ is just a beefy looking guy. So far every game but 3 has had one
Also Flak from 3 has an ability to force aggro on his animal.
@reyth9887 I guess it's tank in the sense of big durable thing that rolls in and slaughters stuff...like an actual tank, not an RPG party tank
Tales from the Borderlands had the best balance of humor and story, but BL4 really needs a well written antagonist to top Handsome Jack
Tales really was the perfect mix, it was fun but it knew when it had to take itself seriously too, but at the same time never delved too far into either parody or melodrama. I'd stand by it being the funniest too, having Jack shittalking while Rhys is trying not puke during the Skin Pizza scene might be the best gag in the series.
@@NyctosubaTelltale made good games back in the day but I think gearbox writers might be cooked. I hope I’m proven wrong
Why They Need Top handsome Jack
They don’t need to top jack all of you just need to move on and give them the room to create a good villain. Jack is why we got tyreen and her brother and we hated them. I really hope the kept Jack completely out of mind for these villains
Gearbox's need to top Handsome Jack is why we got some subpar villains. Just let Jack go and concentrate on making a good villain. That is all they need to do. Give us a good villain, regardless if he or she is better than Jack or not, that is all we want.
The characters you can play look like they took the callipso twins and made them playable.
100% bro especially sense the guy uses the retro blades.
😂😂
The siren is the cousin of them at this point
yep, huuuuge red flag
Hopefully this will have a better story
Considering the one behind is the one from BL3 and Wonderlands, I expect the story to not improve if not somehow gets worse.
@ that is extremely unfortunate, I won’t get my hopes up then. Here’s to hoping the other aspects of the game are fun.
Agreed it doesn't have to be perfectly but good enough to enjoy playing through again would be nice bl3 story genuinely kinda was a drag to play through until you got to the end and it was a little more interesting
@@goufr3540 He also wrote for the BL3 DLCs that were very well-received compared to the main story. Not sure what was wrong with Wonderlands' story but he worked on Assault on Dragon Keep so it makes sense he came back for it.
@@Zoidberryable Simply put, his writing has gotten worse, just cause he wrote for Dragon Keep does not mean he can keep on writing. As the stories of everything onward has been shit and likely to get worse. I would rather take someone good from BL1 over him, get some real dark humor and stories again.
i think crazy meme gun names are hilarious as long as the dialogue and story arent crap. a hawk 2a shotgun or something is actually so funny keep that
I’m glad I wasn’t the only 1 lol hawktua hand cannon sounds fire
Sk1b@doo Sniper
If you're a pre pubescent teen I guess.
A C.O.V variant shotgun that you have to put every two shots would be on brand I think.
@@rogermucroy750many of us were “pre-pubescent teens” when BL1 and BL2 came out. I see no issue with tailoring the humor for a modern audience.
Okay, here is the big question... did Gear Box finally find all the left handed guns that got vented into space along with the grappling hooks and jet packs?
This is the most important question. Left-Handed Gun legendary needs to be included
I started a new BL2 playthrough last night, its so good and I can definitely tell the difference with no vaulting and sliding. I cant wait for BL4
i hope they brought over the armour loot, melee loot and ring/necklace loot from tiny tinas wonderland that was sutch a good idea
Armor and rings were just reflavored class mods and artifacts.
Melee weapons were supposed to be in 3
I think the big giy is the tank, the girl with tatoos is a siren, the guy on the far left looks like the soldier, and the black girl looks tech based like zane
Nah the smaller dude is the tech assassin shes the soldier more like
@qlasalle who knows? I just hope they're cool and not broken at launch like how Zane was in bl3. Also, i wish they gave us the option to create a new character at the current max once we finish the campaign. I dont wanna olay through it multiple times to try out each character
Borderlands has never needed a tank…I hope it’s not a tank.
@@mattie.f00brick in borderlands 1 is a tank so your point?
The black girl is probably the soldier class. She looks like a Maliwan Trooper
While the new VHs look boring and bland, in my opinion, this could be a sign of two possible things. One, we get amazing customization and character creation or two, we are possibly getting dlc characters again and they will look more badass. I hope it is both tbh, but I wouldn't mind dlc characters coming back more as the classes that came from those dlc characters felt unique
I kinda thought they might have been just placeholders (besides the siren). Specifically the smaller guy on the left, kinda colorless and really reminds me of zane at first look
1st Character is the Assassin Class,
2nd Character is the Siren,
3rd Character is the Tank,
4th Character is the Soldier.
I hope the “tank” has more to it than that…borderlands has never needed tanks.
More like the influencer, celebrity boxer, rapper and librarian.
@ 🤣
@@mattie.f00 agreed, even though most VHs have had tank skill trees they are usually an afterthought for me as a player. Hopefully the big guy is the melee class, the Borderlands series does those pretty well.
@ ya, maybe like a better Brick attempt. He was fun, but the game just didn’t have the mechanics to make him shine then. I bet it could work now
The problem was never that the toilet humor was over done - the problem was that BL3 complettly fucked up the timing for when to drop jokes and when to let a scene cook.
BL1 was largely a very dry game in terms of story and humor, the actual "Borderlands Humor" and "Borderlands Story Telling" came in with BL2 and they struck gold. They had stupid jokes left and right getting a chuckle out of us but they rolled it back in the more serious scenes like the death of a character or someone coping with loss.
BL3 just took a big fat dump on every even slightly serious story scene and just splattered semi good humor all over the canvas. BL3 just overwhelmed with poorly timed jokes that often just disrespected established characters. I mean yes in Lore Lilith might not be the smartest and made a bunch of stupid decisions but was that video all over the screnes really necessary? Not even talk about the absolut disgusting treatment Maya got. To this day i would like to know whos idea it was because ..... i just wanna talk
There will never be a better Siren than Maya 😭
Never and she was done dirty
Lilith?
@flyingthor2650 ill still take Maya
They better make the main bad guy interesting this time. Last time it was real tragedy.
Wait who was the bad guy in 3 i forgot 😂😂
@@Kidice00I feel like the twins coulda been good but they just gave up on the whole twins aspect near the end which felt dumb
At least this bad guy isn't trying to be an influencer. I think that solved the majority of the problem
Toilet humor can be ok. Hawk 2A as a gun wouldve been comical if applied right. I think the dlc should add vault hunters instead of just skill trees. The complaint about the "generic" vault hunter is wild considering theyve always looked generic at the beginning and skins/heads usually make them stand out more.
..maýbeeee a bit more "refined individualitý" ? 🤔
And even then, while some of these designs are a bit generic (I think the big guy and Siren are pretty good, the other two are just a bit generic), it's not bad generic, just neutral. Like as much as people compare these to Concord, Concord's designs are outright *bad*. These aren't bad, just a couple of them are just ok and could use some work to refine them.
Can't lie looks good
The big buff guy is genuinely the only protagonist who looks fun
We haven’t hardly seen any gameplay so there’s not much to go on
@ZachofPotatoes732 visual design beats mechanical fun for me so even if he's the worst I'm picking him because he simply looks cooler
@@TheRealDurgevisual design of a character you hardly see in a first person shooter hahahahahaha
@@scotthatty9499 and the characters are a lot more talkative now and he seems like he, at the very least, might not have an Insufferable voice
I’m fine if the story takes a more serious tone but at least let the side quest contain the raunchy “toilet humor.” To me that is part of the charm of borderlands.
Bring back ANTHONY BURCH
Idk why but that one playable character guy looks familiar. The one to the left of the siren. He looks like an asset they used before in a previous game, but I can't place my finger on who.
He does look a like that loser from New Tales, not sure if it actually is him but he does look a lot like him.
The title is kinda weird, because you deliver no real information about the Vault Hunter classes.
In terms of design i really like three out of the four Vault Hunters.
Siren is pretty cool looking, especially with the pink/purple markings, instead of the usual blue, the big guy looks like a tech viking tank or brute and the other female VH looks kinda like a Maliwan Heavy, which could be very cool.
Only the other guy looks not as interesting, but this changes for me when we see him with the blades.
Maybe the new characters will have more interesting skins that make them more unique in some ways (for people who don't like the standard designs).
The toilet humor better be in the game
Yes
Three changes are must: 1) Game needs a darker tone. 2) Combat needs to be difficult enough to demand some thinking instead of just mindless shooting, which gets boring real quick. 3) Weapons should complement builds instead of just having its own unique effect.
Just keep the combat the same or similar to borderlands 3 no one wants the poor balancing of endgame bl2
I still don't have high hopes for the story but those Cyborg Bandits are freaking look cool as hell especially if they have fun or unique mechanics like with the loaders or the maliwan enemies from bl3 just. it was always fun to shoot the backpack on some of maliwan and watch them run into a wall or blow up. I'm not against there being memes in the game especially if they're just Easter eggs or a random unique gun just as long as it's not in your face and a part of the main story. I also don't think I'll be able to convince any of my friends get the game and I don't blame them.
I hope it has more of a group up and endgame focus.
After seeing the new vault hunters for a while I’m actually really into the designs. Other vault hunters haven’t been the most standout (Roland, arguably Mordecai, Roland, arguably Sal, Moze, Amara). These new designs feel a bit grittier I think to work with the new story direction. Most of what I think makes a Vault Hunter iconic is their unique abilities and as of BL3 their personality and quips.
Definite wait for user reviews on this one.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I want this game to be more BL2 than BL3 Wonderlands but we will see.
I mean out of the four vault hunters I think the siren probably looks the best it terms of default outfits
Please tell me im not the only one who thought that Hawk tah would be funny for a lilith legendary flavor text
"no toilet humor" meaning: the writers arent funny. BL3 is already depressing and not funny. BL2 is actually funny and humor is not a problem
Everyone who's saying the Vault hunters look boring did they forget Borderlands 1? And Salvador? Axton? Those Vault hunters looked way more boring in my opinion These new Vault Hunters actually look pretty Cool and I can't wait to play as them
Something I'd LOVE to see but the devs probs won't do is: A Co-op focused Skilltree like in Presequel. I loved playing baroness and doing coop contractor, having massive bonuses just for doing what you were gonna anyways and buffing another party member to boot was nice. Having an semblance of this past "Health regen here, mech turret there," would be nice.
The humor is one of the best part. KEEP THE HUMOR
I wouldn't mind them adding factions you can join, with alternate endings.
that would be cool but I doubt that they would do that since the other games didn't have multiple endings and it could get messy when they work on borderlands 5.
This isn't fallout
Nah
4:04 I mistaken the left guy for Zane when I first seen the trailer. Hopefully it has Wonderlands character creation but I doubt it. Borderlands 3 didn't add dlc characters which sucked.
Character creation should be exclusive to wonderlands, it isn't good for a main game feature. It's way more interesting to play as a character with an actual backstory and history and that can reappear in the future. I used to want this too though until I thought about it more.
They better bring back beam rifles like those in the pre sequel.
Tiny tina was the best borderlands game ever made and it doesn't even have the name attached to it... this most likely won't be as good as that
I don't give a s*** What the character looks like, you never see them anyway. It's not really a big deal in my book. As long as the gameplay is fun, the story is entertaining. And the build diversity is decent for each class. I will be happy.
Gotta say, as someone who briefly played 3, those characters (physically) weren't memorable at all. Hell the moment I found a pigeon helm, that thing never came off. Only thing that was, was the voice acting and their character through that. Edit: so basically, I don't care at all for their base design and am totally fine if it makes the skins look better, cause that's all I do care about when it comes to the Hunter's looks.
Bro bl3 characters were great especially flak and Zane
@@no-ge5mu Of course they are and that's prob why Zane's making a return. My comment was more towards the physical appearance and people complaining about BL4's.
@@Krolshi I can agree the vault hunters look bland but the other games look at the vault hunters they don’t look like anything crazy some of them stand at yes but most of them look basic by default and the cosmetics is what’s memorable
4:55 i think he is supposed to be some kind of play on the Norse god Ullr.
Please let the big Viking guy have a melee skill tree I get it the duel blades guy is the melee class but it’s literally a huge Viking guy with elemental axes he gotta chop something in half up close
I pray they fix the player Co-op, everyone is almost unplayable
Hot take here but I think most of borderlands’ character designs are just alright. So I’m not too hung up on the new vault hunters
Yeah idk why people are all of a sudden calling the vault hunters boring. Probably cause they didn't show a lot of the skills? Like just the vault hunters alone all look boring if you take away their skills.
Thank u they act like the characters have been the craziest most badass designs previously, lol like in blands 2 zero was the most unique designed vault hunter excluding dlc and he’s just a possible humanoid alien lol
To be fair, Zero and Fl4k did stand out. Zayne and Salvador had more special Features aswell. 🤔 not that they had crazy designs, they just stood out for me somehow!
But you're right we did not see anything yet, so it's way to early for shit talk. Charakterwriting would surely be interesting, aswell as seeing those flashy skills!
@@bastiflicker2521 zero was literally a black and white monotone voiced (maybe)robot thing. The like... The definition of boring lol
No hate though cause i loved playing as zero.
i don't know, the bl3 vault hunters just felt special. as much as people didnt like the game, the zane, flak and moze trailers had so much personality. i'm looking at these new vhs and instead of thinking of who's the one i wanna play the most im thinking of who's the least boring lol
This is the right time to try something new. Gearbox with borderlands has solidified their capabilities. It’s now time to elevate.
This better not flop!!!
5:23 but didn’t borderlands three already have four player local co-op. That’s how I’ve been playing with my friends.
It pretty much says it all that literally the only vault hunter that actually sticks out to me is the robo-viking. Which isn't too bad actually but still very much feels like a first draft that needed more work.
Hot take: I want a way to level weapons up. Destiny and First Descendant, even if it's never 100% the same. Of course they need us to refarm to keep player retention, but damn it would be cool.
Maybe a way to have content that renerates new content to keep it active (different versions of bosses; a mode where things change; etc.). While some people don't like modifiers, I do like fun modifiers.
The Hawk 2A is funny wym
Right!? That shit would be funny. Especially if there was an audio cue
No...
BL4 gets one meme so it doesn't date itself too hard, and it's either the Hawk 2A or a Psycho head in a toilet with Claptrap singing Skibidi Toilet.
3:09 … I NEED that shit
N.,no... Unless you're under 15 that shit is not funny
Why is the siren always the best looking class
"my siren's name is Brick, and she is the prettiest" I think that's the reason
It looks good?
@@itzbigchicano001 not to me it doesn't
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t have a character creator this time around, considering they had it in Wonderlands and that was one of the more interesting parts of that game.
Keep that shit in wonderlands. VHs are better than character creator for borderlands.
Nah, that would be the death of the game right there
BL1, 2, and TTW were awesome, not gonna let 1 game in a series ruin my anticipation.
What I haven’t seen here is references to pacing. It’s not the humor that breaks it. It’s that you can’t break passed it. In bl2 if a character was talking, 9/10 times (should be 10/10) you could just click the glowy thing and they would stop. In BL 3 you HAD to sit there and listen. And it’s obvious how clueless they are about it because there are literal quest objectives that pop up in the MAIN STORY which says to listen to a character. While other times you are just stuck listening for *minutes* before the next objective pops up. Listening should be the single most recurring objective in the game.
I agree BL3 overplayed it’s love of toilet humor, but “Hawk 2A” is a funny gun name.
I think people are being too harsh on the Vault Hunter designs. Sure, the hunters in 3 were insanely colorful and well designed, but every other game's hunters were mostyl dominated by characters who could fit the same criticism, with the Sirens and Zer0 kind of being the only exceptions
Id love to see a physically accurate blackhole in this artstyle in a skybox/ship window of BL4
While BL3 didn't have a great story, I mainly play Borderlands for gameplay and in that aspect, BL3 hit it out of the park. Give me more of that amazing gameplay and I'll be happy.
The psycho leader most likely picked up the masks of fallen psychos in battle. Not necessarily from the planet moving.
Im one that thinks that the humor was part of the games charm .... love it.
I thing the vault hunters are meant to look ordinary, so their extraordinary abilities and actions make the story all the more impactful.
I'd love for the series to get back to the original's writing. The humor was... not dark per se, but like, death and stuff was so commoplace it didn't really bother or surprise people that much. It's kinda like they were bored of it, actually. So the humor was us laughing at the circumstances when compared to our normal lives, and not game trying to force a laugh. Everything was bleak and deadpan for the most part, and I loved it. But then Tales (the original one) was also incredibly funny for other reasons, so.
Also, please just treat lore and the characters with respect. BL3 felt like a fanfic sometimes.
Still haven't got around to starting the third one and its spin off. Time flies. 😅
think i can get through the storyline of all the previous games and dlc before this drops? Only ever got through the base BL1 game and zombie island, maybe general knoxx's armory but i honestly forget if I got through that or not.
I can see that borderlands got there DEI hire in the game as well
People are going to bitch about character designs now because they've been conditioned to. They'd have bitched about 3's and 2's if they came out today. "They look like any old NPC" tells it. Borderlands NPC's tend to look just as good as the Vault Hunters. Given theres a not inconsiderable overlap between those two categories.
Seems to be darker in tone and I'm here for it as someone who thought the other three games should have toned it down a bit and took themselves a touch more serious.
BL2 Humor
Give us quality loots
Make epic weapons matter too
Give us more trees per character
Give is more characters to max!
Tbh ive liked the VH designs from the beginning… i feel like someone said it, and people just started bandwagoning
I was a big borderlands fan, 1-2 were my fav, obviously. But BL3 let me down a bit. Hopefully this is way better than BL3
I hope they add a third person option that would go so crazy💯
“Toilet humor” is why I love borderlands! They just need better jokes than BL3!!!! A Hawk2uah legendary Rocket Launcher would be hilarious!!!!
I hope that the one of cyborg Viking action skill is brick action skill and I know "it's a redskin of bricks action skill" but what about armara's phasegrasp aka phaselock and fade away is deception
Gameplay gonna be revealed early February with a release date of April 25th
4:10 new VH all looks like they could serve you coffe in Starbucks*, they have that hipster barista vibe ;) I feel like other games have more distinct player characters.
But its just first impresion, and after hearing their voice, and seeing what they do in the game this may change.
*well, maybe the "tank" will make you a craft burger instead in his overpriced foodtruck.
idk if its because I got old but Borderlands hasn't had me sink hundreds of hours in since BL2. Really hoping Borderlands 4 is the shiii.
ooooh i loooove ýour no nonsens, to the point and short vid stýle 😄👍
I feel like the vault hunters we play as seem too much like side characters. They don’t have anything that makes them stand out from other npcs in the game. In borderlands I think they’re even npcs that are more diverse than this main cast.
If the humor is toned down I'll consider it. Maybe it's just because I started at BL1, but I loved the more serious tone of the first game. Borderlands just became so rediculous that it was nearly impossible to keep my attention.
It's not like I don't like humor in games, but i swear BL3 had to try to sneak a gag into every line and it just became obnoxiously immature.
I just hope they change the character design a little or the costume you can unlock look better than how the characters look in the trailer. They look like baristas which is such a drop in unique design vs previous characters like FL4K, psycho or Zero😭
I'm excited!
Borderlands we back baby 😎😎😎💯💯
i honestly was really let down by BL3’s vault hunter selection, aside from Flak. atleast BL4 i see atleast 2 im interested in
(pls bring back Krieg)
I hope they bring back the 2 extra vault hunters with the dlc's. Also, I don't want to see another calypso twins style boss. They were the worst thing about bl3. Hopefully they port it to the switch 2 lol
I have played all of the borderlands games so I will definitely be buying this I just hope they haven't gone woke like so many others
hopefully vertical splitscreen comes back
hey if the story goes super serious and has better writing ill be cool with it honestly
Ok ngl i would love to find a gun called the hawk 2A in this game. I hate the awful joke dialogue but when it comes to gun names and descriptions I love references to real world memes and shit like that.
Im hype love borderlands all borderlands they can't do wrong by me cause it's all about gameplay shooting and looting can't be done better than borderlands
Is anybody else getting StarCraft vibes from the available footage?
Love old school jokes that makes it more fun. Characters do look plain
The siren and big buy with metal arm look plain? K bruh
@@gnarlyboyjai The siren doesn't, but the big dude definitely does look really bland. I suppose we'll have to see what their personalities are like
I can’t wait! I love the series, BL3 and Prequel as well! I just hope the DLC is actually DLC because that shit on TTW was ass. I don’t think BL3 had good DLC either, can’t remember. Also, i just want to know who the melee class is? Maybe the cybernetic blade guy.
The humor makes the game
Kind of weird to say the characters arent “iconic” when the characters are only iconic after you get to know them. A lot of the vault hunters look pretty generic if you take out the lore. I think they have just transitioned to a more consistent body shape instead of lanky people like mordecai and zero and stout people like salvador
My pc: im tired boss
Do we know the intro song yet?
Other than some of the dlcs, which ended up actually being good, it’s definitely looking up for the series because how could it get worse than 3? lol