@@sblagg527 pretty simple actually… it’s the software ECU that was adjusted. They were using too much cooling and adjusted that. In 2016 the Turbo was only available on the CR-V Touring. In 2017 it was available on all models. Turbos can overheat and damage the engine block, I.e. Toyota RAV4 engine blocks were cracking due to a tuning problem, tons of lawsuits and recalls. I think it was resolved in Canada first in 2018 because there was still a problem in the USA with 2018’s. Mine was built in Alliston Ontario but the engine was built in Marysville Ohio I believe. I have over 85,000km and recently had service and oil changes have averaged every 12,000km without any issues after 4 years of ownership. I have had no issues, original brakes and tires. I have winter tires as well so probably close to 50K on my AS tires. Definitely no oil dilution issues
You did a superb job in your explanation of the problem. A few years back … I was as loyal of a Honda customer as you could find. After this CRV fuel dilution issue… I sold my Honda vehicles and moved to Toyota all the way. Have not looked back. Never again Honda for me …. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for this video. I have a 2015 CRV on a lease which is coming to an end. I was about to ‘upgrade’ to a 2019 to keep the warranty going and get some new features but clearly it would’ve been a bad decision.
Bought a 2020 CR-V in February to replace a 2016, guess what? The 2020 warms up much faster, even tested it in extreme cold weather here in Canada. In -20 Celsius it warms up in 3 minutes. I have 11,000km (6,800 miles) with no oil dilution. Not only that but MM is at 30%. Won’t need an oil change for another 3-5000km. Average is at 16,000km despite extreme cold conditions in the Snow Belt. Honda CR-V is built here in Alliston Ontario. Oil dilution issues were resolved in 2018 for us.
Problem solved? No. Mine is 2019 CRV. Only 4000 km after oil change and ot is all black plus gasoline smell. It is going back once the lease is up. My last Honda this life time.
The Honda drama continues. I've got an uncle I don't see a lot but met up for a family thing a couple of weeks back. He had a brand new 2019 CRV! I told him of all this and he said let's check the oil. 5000 miles and it was black crayon dark, smelled of fuel, and was an inch high. SMH.
This is so disappointing. All those years of amazing quality engines and this is where Honda is today. I guess I’ll be looking at Toyota this go around
I had a 2000 accord and my a/t made it to 120k miles before it died. I went through 3 distributers too lol. I noticed Honda's quality has been going downhill so instead I bought a new Camry this month.
@@AlexKim-zg1cxYes that's correct, Honda A/T are well known to have problems. I drove it for 15 years, but it started to act up a few years before I got rid of it. My a/t started leaking from the left or right front axle. It also needed to warm up before I drove it or it wouldn't change gears. Funny thing is the a/t worked flawless once it was warm, but I was adding a quart of a/t fluid every 3 days and new axles and seals did nothing to stop the leak, so I kept a few gallons of tranny fluid in the trunk lol I like my new camry...except for the poorly programmed 8-speed a/t.
Chuck entleutner I had some Toyota issues but would definitely go back, traded in my Sienna in 2018. Had Sienna from 1998-2018. The maintenance is getting more expensive but they are still safe, reliable and continuously improving the product
I live in ND. We had the fake fix. We leased a 2018 CRV. The oil was changed at the time of the fix at Approx. 2000 miles. It now is a t 4600 miles...........today it is over the orange on the dipstick. We were intending to purchase the car after the lease is up. We don't put many miles per year on at all. To and from work and a trip to Oregon every summer. An extended warranty is bullshit given the miles I will have driven it. I have a 2011 CRV with 116k. Normally a Honda will last nearly forever if maintained. Makes me sick. It is my wife's pride and joy. At this moment she has it back to the Honda dealer. I just searched for a newer video on the problem and yours came up. I will post back when I hear what line of bull they try to give us this time.
So she just got back. Honda mechanic said the oil level was correct. He said he couldn't smell gas. I can still smell gas on my fingers and I washed them with soap. He acknowledged the problem with the engine but said Honda will do nothing unless there is a huge class action lawsuit. We decided to change oil at least every 5000 miles and maybe lease or buy a Toyota next time. I am so glad we leased this time. We considered buying as we have had great luck with our Honda's up to this point. Maybe I'll just buy a used 2015-16 to go with my 2011. New is nice, but better safe than sorry.
I almost bought a 2018 CRV, but I ended up getting a RAV4 instead. If it wasn't for the dishonest and crafty Honda salespeople, then I would probably be driving one of these lemons today.
Honda sent me a letter in 2018 giving us 5 year engine warranty for my 2017 crv. I’m in canada, and my car was always driven on highway for 20-30min so the dilution wasn’t a big problem because engine was always up to temp and at rpm. I had recall done which was a ecu re-flash for cold start fuel/air mixture a year after we bought it. They replaced the heating control unit to fix the “low heat output” but it just basically keeps the fan from operating at full speed. I now live in the city and the car does short hops to drop off kids/work and I now notice the fuel in my oil waaaaaaaay more. I’ll have to do changes more frequently from now on. Once the 5year engine warranty is up, the car will be sold for sure
I am quite certain that Honda knows they have a catastrophic engineering design problem, to which their best solution is to make more money by surreptitiously shortening their maintenance intervals. I have been driving for close to 60 years and as a 2nd-generation Detroit-born-and- raised motor head (my dad and his buddy had their own Model-A garage as high school kids), have always performed my own repair and maintenance on every vehicle (of 2 wheels or 4) that I have ever owned. As I approached my 70s I became much less likely to do anything more than; oil/filter changes, an occasional tune-up, valve adjustment, plugs, brake jobs, ect., but I did resent being unable to TOUCH my new vehicle. Unlike most "professional" mechanics (especially @ dealerships), when I repair a vehicle I intend to keep, I try to use the best available (sometimes used/rebuilt) replacement parts and take all the time necessary to do the best possible repair. When I change oil in a vehicle I intend to keep, I use only the best oil and best filter available and I usually flush during the process. To keep the Honda warranty, we now must let ONLY Honda perform ANY labour and use ONLY Honda parts. What seemed baffling to me (although it is now becoming much clearer) was NO MENTION of a maintenance schedule in the owner's manual! Given the apparent total on-board computer control (and maybe INTERNET control) of 21st Century vehicles, it seems that the maintenance schedule is variable to the needs of the manufacturers and dealers. This will be our 3rd Honda and we loved each of them, but we are now the unhappy owners of a 2018 CRV EX. The first year we only drove her for only short errands around our small town and trips of 100+ miles only twice. We always used her remote start to warm her up before driving and never jack-rabbited or abused her. We never noticed any variation of oil level, nor did we get a bulletin or recall notice. We did get the "MAINTENANCE DUE" popup on the dashboard at 3,000 mi. and used our "dealer freebie" to have our first oil and filter change early last month. Later last month we drove to Florida & back, where we drove often at 70-90mph all day × 8 days, for a total of 3,000 mi+. When we got back to town, we found a 1 inch rise over "FULL" on her dipstick level. Since we live in a high desert climate where it almost NEVER goes down to freezing, ALWAYS warming her up and NEVER accelerating aggressively (minimizing turbo pressure), Honda's theory that "...fuel dilution is due to insufficient warming, especially in cold climates..." is SHEER AND UTTER BULLSHIT! So now we will take her in for the "Honda fix"; oil/filter change and the magical top-secret mumbo-jumbo software update, but the only way to test her is to drive 3,000mi. accross Texas (with their 80mph speed limit, our radar detector, a big bottle of No Doze and some adult diapers) and see if her oil level no longer rises! Alternately, our next best option is to get rid of her and try to find a vehicle (preferably something from the last century) that a liitle old lady only drove to church on Sunday. We did see a website that solicits membership in a law firm's class action suit, and are thinking about joining and taking their printout to show to the Honda service manager.
I just a 2019 CR-V EX literally three days after buying the car I filled up the gas tank then the heater and I had the smell of Gas running thru my vents... I was worried so I took it back to honda and. They serviced it and said nothing is wrong with it.. Of course they'd say that.... I'm wondering if I should just trade it in before it gets worse? It only has 9600 miles on it. I've only had. The car going on for a week now....
If you drive in cold climate on short commutes. I would get rid of it. I have a 2019 . I have installed a defa inline heater to get the engine to heater up faster. It has not helped much. I drive my crv in sport mode to keep the rpms up to heat up the engine. I also keep the heat on low, this allowing the engine to heat up faster. At a northern Ontario Canada dealership they have had ice in the crankcase of the 1.5 liter engine driven on short commutes. I will speak with my wallet.
@@m109r dang u said get rid of it I'm about to have my car for a month now.. But I have met other people that have had their crv 2019 and gotten to 60k miles with no problems.... So far I've been good.. I'm paying bumper to bumper in mine until 100k miles. I think ima just keep it... But ur making me worry.
Man, I agree for every word in this video.. and guess what, the problem still in 2019 model, yesterday day I went to buy crv exl in orange county California, and the date of the manufacturer of the car is March 2019 , so I removed the dipstick and the smell of the gasoline was very obvious, and as usual the salesman has no idea about the problem. Not only this but this selly man told me take the car today and go to the service tomorrow. My advise is , don't go for any honda car with 1.5 turbo whatever crv,accord and civic Thank you for this video
I'm glad you guys are making these videos. I love the new CRV body style, but I'll definitely be sticking to the 2.4 engine. I had a 07 CRV that was a tank, now I have a 06 Pilot that's also a tank. I've been Honda loyal since the 90's, but their quality has really fallen off. So sad to see it.
I had the same problems as you, I had a 2018 CR-V EX from February 2018 to March 2019. Put 10,600 miles on it. 4 Oil changes due to increasing levels and fuel smell. Ours was not eligible for update because in the VIN being bought in Texas. I first noticed there was something strange when I changed the oil myself at 3,500 miles and noticed how thin the oil was, the smell of gas from it and when I went to put the dirty oil into the oil containers I just used, I had about 3/4 quart left in the drain pan and the oil containers were all full. l I moved to upstate New York in July 2018 and changed the oil myself again because the dip stick level was about 3/4" over full and the same thing again, strong gas smell, really thin (water thin) and I had more oil than what I put in (exact type and amount of oil the manual called for). Then I started looking into things and found I wasn't alone with this problem. I took it to Honda Service and the told me my VIN was not eligible for the update. I told them the problems I was having with the increasing levels of oil, strong smell of gas in the oil, the gas smell inside the cabin, the car taking about 30 min to 40 min to warm up in 25 degrees (longer in colder weather), the temperature would drop when idling and the heat in the car would turn to slight warm. The service manager down-played everything, told me to drive the car in Sport Mode (so it rev's higher) and leave the heat off, no I'm NOT Joking and then BLAMED the problem on me for driving it on too many short trips (my wife's work is 3 miles away). The service manager told me its direct injection and its normal to have fuel in the oil, and its normal for the car to take 30 to 40 min to fully warm up......wait for it......because All the other CR-V's on the lot were doing the same thing! I called Honda, no help at all, told me the same thing...no drivablity issues blah blah..it's normal... blah blah. I kept the car until almost 11k miles and got Toyota. Since 1992, I have only owed Honda and Acura, 26 of them. I will never buy another Honda, they have lost me permanently as their customer. It was completely obvious to me (based on my research on the "fix" for this) that Honda's resolution was to put a half-assed bandaid of a fix on bad engine thats only going to last about 90k miles because its being lubricated by gas. The problem isn't software programming, the a/c, or the cold weather, it's the design of the engine; they messed up by mixing a overly high pressure turbo system for a 1.5L with a poorly designed direct injection system with the wrong piston rings and I'm sure the problem has Honda's lawyers working overtime.
Sounds like you had a similar experience. You also did a better job explaining the source of the problem than I did. I agree that it is something with the engine design which may be why they came off to me as if they didn't know anything. Maybe they know, but don't want to replace the engine in all of these vehicles. We are traditionally a GM family, although this was our second Honda. I have owned lots of Honda off road machines and motorcycles.I'm going to have a hard time pulling the trigger on one again not because of the problem, but the lack of integrity in how they deal with their customers. We ended up with a 1.5 turbo AWD equinox. There are things we liked better about the Honda, and things we like better about the chevy. But the fact that it doesn't have an oil dilution problem makes it the clear winner for our family. Thanks for sharing your experience on this video.
Yes, lack of integrity is the main problem when you get down to the foundation of the problem. I would have kept it and stood by Honda if they responded with something more than complete and obvious lies that were designed for the people who don't change their own oil and think a software update will the fix engine stalling out, the lack power at random times, the fuel smell in the cabin, and worst of all the increasing oil levels, with abundant levels of gas in the oil. Also, I suspect Honda engineers knew about the "under heating" problem with this engine and thought they could fix it with the auto shutters behind the grill that sit in front of the radiator. th-cam.com/video/DNv5Nuza87I/w-d-xo.html I know a little bit about how engines work, I'm not a engineer, but I know if you cut the air blow-by across the radiator during driving, the engine will heat faster. I wonder if Honda had a ton of these engines ready for assembly in cars to be sold in China and then they suddenly couldn't sell them there anymore (because of strict laws with recall) and Honda had a lot of engines already made and plans to make more to offset the r/d (research and development) and they decided to polish up a turd and sell it in the US? I'm sure if I can figure this out, the really smart lawyers out there wanting to make a name for themselves can do something to help all of those who put their trust and money into a crap Honda . asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Honda-to-resume-sales-of-China-flagship-CR-V www.reuters.com/article/us-china-autos-honda/japans-honda-to-recall-350000-cars-in-china-over-engine-issue-idUSKBN1FW124 I forgot to mention, thank you for time, and providing this information to everyone. The information you provided is extremely helpful to every CR-V owner because you had your oil tested. I got the test kit myself but never sent it out for testing, I decided to get out of it and trade it in. Thanks and good luck with your new SUV !
you're not alone. I have a civic Si 1.5T engine that has the same unusually high oil level with water thin viscosity/gas soaked oil . Took it to the dealer and its amazing how condescending these SOBs can be . "everything is normal" "high oil level will not hurt the engine" " you should check it while its hot and within 3 minutes from driving" . Im not kidding, thats EXACTLY how he told me, he only shut his pie hole when I told him i rebuild engines. Honda has a big problem in their hands and btw.. i live in California
They always say they don't know !!! My sister bought an accord with the 1.5 I asked Honda have you had many cars come in with the oil dilution problems they said they had no clue what I was taking about I told them Honda is on is way to be the new Nissan
Great point! I've heard Nissan is handling their faulty CVT transmissions with the same lack of integrity as Honda and 1.5 oil dilution. That is the reason we didn't test drive a Rogue when looking to get rid of our CRV.
@@coachvonyo is sad really I myself have a 2017 civic base model with the natural aspirated engine 2.o but I can't tell you the built quality is lacking my 98 civic was better built I have about 30 thousand miles on it no problems knock on wood so far...
@@coachvonyo Honda is sliping big time and need to take care of their customers and do them right is their fault not the customer for not designing the engine properly and don't get me started on this CVT which I don't trust
@@Oaktwn16 couldn't agree more with the build quality point. When we had ours in for the "product enhancement" I got in to drive it out of the bay and the push button on the shifter broke and shot out of the shifter itself. Plastic pieces and a spring shot out. They came over and said it's a know problem, a brittle part. I asked how many other things are a known fault on the vehicle?
@@coachvonyo that's the same thing that happened to a co-worker with his CR-V Honda took it apart fixing it and he asked what they found his was also getting stuck Honda says we didn't find anything bullshit
Well done explanation. Turbo engines and cvt transmissions sucks in newer cars. Honda does not stand behind those issues, it looks to me like planned obsolescence, exactly what BMW does by using plastic parts in their engines instead of metal.
Most likely one of the problems is the oil control rings. Not just limited to Honda but to most modern engines. Rings are designed way too narrow in order to reduce drag.
My mom has a 2001 Honda Accord and wanted a 2018 Honda CRV. I talked to several dealers and no one told me about this problem. I can not afford to throw away $20,000 plus dollars and have to replace the engine in a few years. I just called her and told her what I found and she is appalled. I didn’t trust Hyundai or Mazda Crv’s and now I have to add Honda to that list. I work hard for my money and when I purchase a car keep it for years. The light just came on at Toyota and I have to investigate their lineup of vehicles and whether they back up what they sell.
You may not say it, but I will........DO NOT BUY A HONDA. Says the owner of a 2018 Honda CR-V EX with 4,400 miles on it. I wished also that I would of seen videos and known before I bought mine as well. I didn't find out until two months later. Thanks for the video, you hit everything right on the head. Honda had the problem in 2017 models, went on to make 2018 models knowing their was an issue, and since they have yet to find a solution, they are probably making the 2019 model with the same issues. Thanks for getting the word out!
Yes I will be shocked if the 2019s are fixed since they cannot seem to fix 17-18. Honda makes a good vehicle most the time but when something like this hits they are terrible. I suppose they hope their longstanding reputation will carry them through.
With any new product being introduced, there’s bound to be some sort of problem as the manufacturer continues to make improvements. Honda is lagging here but I am sure or hope they are changing that for the better. As Honda owner for 2015, I’ve to say Honda’s quality definitely has went down significantly over the years. Coming from a Honda family, comparing my car to the older ones... older ones are rock solid. In my humble opinion, Honda please step it up big time. You have loyal customers that expect WAY more out of you. Soon people will walk away to another competitor. Like Toyota or German brands. This isn’t to bash Honda, because they are reputable company. But, with quality depreciation like this more & more ... idk if it will be in that same light 🤷🏽♂️
Full disclosure, I haven't researched this issue beyond Honda. But I am not aware of any other manufacturer having this issue. The next vehicle we owned after the CRV was an equinox. Very similar engine. 1.5 direct injection turbo. It had no oil/fuel dilution after a full oil change interval.
No problems with mine after 15 months and about 30K miles. Oil has never risen past the top mark. I have a feeling that they must have a batch of bad injectors or something that went into some of the vehicles. My feeling is that the reason you saw no change after the fix is that they did nothing to your vehicle or maybe they never changed the injectors. Sad situation, I feel sorry for you. I know at least six people with 2018s and none of them have an issue.
We have a 2018 Honda Accord 1.5 Turbo engine and it's has 8,000 miles on it. We had to do 2 oil changes and shorty after the 2nd one the engine light came on and the car stalled and we coasted to a parking lot. We took the car into David McDavid Honda in Frisco, TX and they said their diagnostics didn't find anything and sent us on our way. We did some research and that prompted me to check the oil and it smell of gasoline and it was well beyond the full line. We are taking the car back in tomorrow and let's see what they tell us.
Sorry to hear of your Honda issue's I have a 2016, civic with a 1.5 turbo. Now have 230000k on it. Change oil every 5000 kilometers, mostly hyway Miles, have seen some small amounts of oils delution but nothing major like inches, engine has been very Strong. Re Honda looking after you, my ac failed at 6 ,years 170000 k, connected dealer, they checked, condenser had failed, fixed under extended warranty, n/c . Doesn't get much better than that. My first Honda, I'd buy another in a heartbeat PS: i work in The automotive parts industry calling on auto repair facilities, uf you ask most Tech's what cars have the least issues, you get this reply. Honda or Toyota, thats The reason i bought a Honda and am very Happy AT this point Hopefully that remains The Case. Cheers From Canada so we see some extreme winter weather here.
My 1990 Plymouth Acclaim had the same issue, so bad it wouldn’t even start in cold weather without flooding the engine with gasoline... my oil was mostly gas!! It was Car of the Year!!
To high pressure fuel being blown into the combustion chamber as the piston rises and squeezes the mixture past the piston rings and into the crankcase where the motor oil resides. It's a clearance issue or lack of a piston ring. The reason why people are complaining about the lack of cabin heat is because Honda has the heat set to rise slower so the engine can warm up faster thus warming the cylinders faster to help and try to reduce the clearance between the piston ring and cylinder wall. The problem is that their repair is a small band aide being applied to a large cut.
Just traded my 18 Touring this past Tuesday. The absolute worst heat from a vehicle I've ever encountered, it was comparable to my 1968 Beetle. I live in Northern Maine, so this is a dangerous/safety issue. The vehicle could not produce enough heat to keep the windows defrosted, unless you were doing highway speeds, and even then the minute you get to a stop light etc, the engine temp begins dropping to zero, and now you're getting cold air blown into the cabin. I told my dealership they should NOT be selling these vehicles in our area (or any cold climate locations). Thank god I was able to get rid of it.
my experience is the complete opposite, I had a 2010 and 2016 CR-V which both heat up fairly quick even in the Canadian Snow Belt. 2020 I just bought and it is 2x faster to heat up and turbo does not overheat. In fact, this has not been a problem since 2017 in my area. Also, Civic and CR-V are made here since 2012 and Honda addressed the issue here in 2018.
Just saw someone posted a remark from the manual of a 2019 Civic Si : Under certain driving conditions, it is normal for the engine oil level to rise above the upper mark. If you have a concern, consult a dealer for details
@@coachvonyo Correct, they knew of this flawed design before it was sold but it was too late and expensive for them to fix. Fuel in the crankcase is never a good thing.
There's a reason why Honda removed the "earth dreams" badge off of this engine. The direct injection plus turbo builds up too much pressure and pushes gasoline past the rings. I think it's simply the design, that small of an engine cannot handle that much pressure. Stiffer or wider rings may be a fix?
It's good that you got rid of it now than later where many CRVs will be in the market by then and everyone will know the issue with it, which could be hard to sell.
Very well presented. Good point that GM, Ford and Mitsubishi also have 1.5L direct injected turbo engines and don't have this problem. I have the same report from Oil Analyzers on an interval of only 2600km after my 2017 CR-V has had the so called fix. Mine was also diluted in the heat of last summer. Honda Canada won't reply to me anymore. I will not be keeping it another winter.
Thank u for sharing your story because I just bought a the same car and I’m having the same problem- and Honda is not helping- I’m in the process of getting a lawyer it’s that bad- I’m saving this video for my case
I have the same problem . I live in northern Canada. Honda Canada blamed the dealership for not being able to fix the oil dution and lack of heat. I have heater control module changed computer updates and the new 0-20 installed. The dealership has told me they have seen ice in the crankcase of some these engines. Iam heavy equipment technician and have never heard of ice in a crankcase. I have been a loyal honda owner since 1991. I had convinced all my family and friends to drive a reliable honda. I now will speak with my wallet and this is my last honda. Very disappointed that honda will not stand behind their product. I have also installed a defa inline block heater and interior heater. Doubled my oil changes. I also drive it in sport mode to keep the rpms up. Do not buy any honda with 1.5 liter to be driven in a cold climate on short commutes.
Not from what I can tell, in Canada this was only a problem in 2017. We fixed it in 2018, Honda fixed the Canadian cars 1st. In the US I found 99 complaints in 2017 according to CarComplaints.com, 55 in 2018, 1 in 2019 and 0 in 2020. Despite what you read on Social Media no one is actually reporting this issue in 2 years.In Canada it has been 3 years.
We're having the same problem. Honda and the dealer are saying to drive the vehicle but bring it in if we experience any problems. We smelled fuel in the cabin within 3 mths of owning the vehicle and thats when I discovered this problemm. Honda is not being honest and they are trying to kick this problem down the road as long as possible. I am super disappointed in my experience in dealing with both Corporate and our local dealer. Its extremely insulting and infuriating to know you've been sold a major product that you know isn't right. Even worse, they tell you that there's nothing further to be discussed. I'll never buy another Honda product again!
ALL GDI engines get COLD WASHING of cylinders if you don’t allow the engine to warm up before driving . You will also have your catalytic converters burn out to from unburnt fuel .
We’ve been looking at cars and the 2019 CRV is one of them. Now I come across this and other videos and info. COREY, I can’t find where you said what vehicle you have. I read an article in Torque News that “if you have purchased a 2019 Honda Civic or CRV all 2019 models are being updated at the factory”. What do you know about the 2019’s or even the 2020’s.
From what I've seen the update they gave ours is what the 2019s got which didn't help the issue at all. My understanding is this problem is a design flaw with the 1.5 or else it would be fixed by now. Until they update the engine significantly I wouldn't touch it.
@@pstock426 We got a 2019 Equinox with the 1.5 and love it. I wouldn't hesitate to own the Toyota Mazda or Subaru. Just be glad you saw this before buying one!
It seems most Turbo CRV's have problem owners just don't notice it. Eveyrone I know who owns one discovers the problem when told to watch for it. Why are all the auto journalists still recommending it. They are as bad as Honda.
I had a brand new 2016 CRV Touring, NON TURBO, NON TURBO... I had bad oil dilution issue. Dipstick smelled like a gas can, inch high on dipstick. Problem is the Direct Injection, not Turbo engines. However, Turbo engines might show it worse
Chuck entleutner I had a 2016 EX-L and never had the issue despite short trips, less than a mile in each direction and always warm the car up and begin slowly. Sub -30 Celsius days too, never had oil dilution. Not saying it didn’t happen but if it was all over social media maybe I would have tested it. Usually I don’t look for problems though. I will say one thing though, I learned about this issue when I was young due to a gas injection problem so I still drive differently as a natural instinct. Maybe some people will learn from this and be better for it
I was going to buy a Civic si until I recently found out about this major problem. Sounds like their high pressure fuel system is a total failure. Too much pressure blows fuel past cold rings and disaster. So what did you end up trading for?
Yes it was so bad I couldn't believe it. I know makers are getting better at high pressure DI but no clue on if Honda ever remedied this. We got an equinox with the 1.5 DI immediately after. Did an oil analysis after a full oil change interval and no oil/fuel dilution.
Luckily, I brought the LX with the 2.4L normal engine. I feel sorry for you guys who spent $30K for a new car and have to constantly worry about this oil dilution problem, and the worst is that its market value will tank.
Just got 2019 CRV EXL ... I've put 120miles so far on it... have I've seen this video first... I would have not pushed thru.. guess it's too late now.. just gonna pray this car don't blow up on me or my family... sad cause we love the car so much :(
Highly recommend not purchasing one. We've had great luck so far with our 2019 Equinox. Can't go wrong with a Toyota or Mazda. Ford Escape is probably decent too.
I just got a 2019 CRV and didn't know about this until after I bought it. I smelled my oil and it smells like gas. And it has already rose above the full line... It has 300 miles on it... This is crazy... You'd think if they knew what was causing this they would have fixed it in the 2019's so they clearly have no idea...
It's unbelievable they are still selling these engines without a fix 3 years in. Even worse, the traffic/highway safety administration has not or can not step up and force their hand.
I just had the update done on my 2017 CRV LX and the oil stick smells like gasoline still. My husband thinks that all he has to do is "sweeten" the oil monthly buying a syringe type gadget on Amazon. Is this a viable solution? I seriously am concerned about safety issues as this is my car. Could it stall while I am on the highway? Thank you for your video. Wish I would have seen it prior to purchasing.
Suctioning out some of the diluted oil and adding fresh oil back to full will extend your drain intervals and protection but how much I can't say. Oil analysis could be beneficial but it's a shame we as owners have to do things like your husband is doing to work around this defect. As for stalling, as long as you keep the oil level from rising too high that shouldn't happen. From what I've seen stalling usually occurs when someone isn't monitoring this and the oil gets too high. Ours rose so fast it was impossible to stay ahead of it. Even after the product enhancement.
My daughter needs to replace a vehicle, liked the CRV. Think we are going to pass. You did your best to work with Honda. Unacceptable! Sad what they did to a vehicle with a good reputation. Toyota 2.4's in mid-2000's had big oil consumption issues. They did a recall and replaced a lot of rings. Tough to swallow, but at least Toyota stood by it.
2020 CRV with about 12,000 miles. Cold climate area. Filled the crankcase with dillution twice so far. Dealership says they see it all the time here. Complete piece of shit ! Worst new car ever owned. No more Honda's ever again for us. ( And I have had Hondas since the 80's. )
Please note that Honda is no longer genuine Japanese company since 2009, the 7th president, Mr. Ito is a Korean Japanese, and the 8th president, Mr. Yago as well. Since then, many of Honda's parts have been made in Korea, the same source as Hyundai. It's no wonder that the quality deteriorates. Mr.Soichiro Honda is crying at the grave now. He once said"don't get involved with Korean people". Because they stole a lot of technology from him. This is a secret rumor that "Honda has been hijacked by Koreans", but today it appears as evidence of these problems that Honda has never had before.
I'm sorry to hear that bad news. Some say that trying 91 octane gas may be an idea to help. They should have kept the old 2.4 L engine. The Honda Hybrid model is different engine. Avoid the 1.5 L turbo. I don't think a software update is the answer. BTW Toyota Rav 4 has a normal ,non turbo engine and a normal transmission, not CVT .
2019 Equinox. It also has a 1.5 turbo direct injected engine. Absolutely no dilution. Oil looks and smells great after 5000 miles. No rise or drop. There are things we liked better about the Honda and things we like better about the Chevy. Close to a wash there, but not having the engine defect makes it a winner for us.
I got the 1.5t accord. Blown motor. Bad fuel injectors. Leaks oil from the bottom transmission side. It has 68k miles Honda won’t fix it bc it’s not under warranty.
From what we know, honda has little experience with turbos and it's starting to show. I dont understand why they went this route because they made proven and fantastic n/a motors just a few years ago
honda made turbo engine in formula 1 in the 80ths....and made also diesel since 2004..and honda lokked long time at the possible problems of turbo direct engines before they decided to make it...i have that honda with 1.5 turbo..with no oil dilution..nor problems at all
thanks for making this video. i am very disappointed with honda. i am looking to replace my civic so i went to check out some crv's today. almost bought 2017. not going to happen now.
IMO my 2016 does not have oil dilution but it does not warm up as fast so it will be at a higher risk than the 2020 I just bought. Also, in my area this has not been a problem in 3 years now
I have a brand new 2019 have had it only 6 week's now. DO NOT BUY A CRV DO NOT. MY ENGINE IS MAKING A WHINING NOISE and the dip stick smells like pure gas! It's also like he says an inch overfill! So I'm contacting Honda 1st thing in the a.m! Here were go. It's also lost power!
They say it has been fixed. The update did NOT fix the problem. Do an oil analysis after 3k to see how bad yours is. The issue will be there for sure, the degree to which it's there does vary. My uncle's is a brand new 2019. Still does it.
ALL car brands have had recalls. Toyota tops the charts of recalls for all brands for the past 30 years with 818 notices. This was resolved and customers got an extended warranty because Honda cares. 2020 to present are well tuned machines with no issues and one of the best CRVs on the road.
I have not seen any evidence that one has less of an issue. But I cannot speak to the question with 100% certainty. Based on what I do know, it seems the one that's in the CRV (higher HP) could be worse.
Some of them do it far worse than others, but they all do it to some degree. If they watch the oil level closely over time I'd bet it rises. Certainly, if they do an oil analysis after Honda's recommended interval I'm 100% sure it will be beyond dilution limits.
How can you absolutely say that. Have they taken they checked the dipstick and smelled the oil to see if it smells like fuel.. have the oil been analyzed.. don't be so quick to dismiss this issue. The reason why there are so many videos on it is not because people are here for views. They are trying to warn others and hopefully facilitate some change.
@@coachvonyo I have been watching videos on this issue and reading about it for a week or so. I was looking to get a 2017, 2018 CRV for me and the wife that we can keep for a while, and just happen to stumble upon this issue. I live in Canada where the extended warranty for engine parts is in effect, but do I really want to drop 25k on a car that might need and engine rebuild in a few years? And at that point how much out of pocket expense is needed because they can say well this and that was not covered under the warranty... It's such a gamble.. just not worth it. I really hope this blows up for them properly because theese "fixes" are not working it seems. Sorry for the rant, thank you for all the information sir.
@@vbad128 Like I already said, they have owned their vehicles for 2 to 3 years and there have been no problems with warm ups or gas smell from the oil or thing, diluted oil. NONE.
2019 Equinox. There are things we like better about the CRV and others the Equinox. The oil dilution makes it no contest though. The equinox is a 1.5 turbo direct injection engine too. 2k in and the oil is still golden smells like oil instead of gas and hasn't moved a millimeter up or down on the stick. The Honda would be up a half inch or more with raw gas already.
@@coachvonyo, Last year i chose a 18 equinox over the 18 CRV because of fuel dilution..I got 43,000 miles on the equinox 1.5t...no issues so far and oil level stays perfect...Never thought i would pick a chevy over a honda but they're resting on their laurels because of their past reputation on reliability...They've been going down hill for awhile.
Do not buy! There has been no fix and the salesmen/Honda will lie to your face. I don't say this lightly, I feel bad saying it actually. But it is the truth.
Imagine purchasing a top dollar brand new car and then having to deal with this issue. And then turning around and the company Honda doesn't have a fix for it. And then what do you do, your powerless against a huge company like Honda? Your stuck with a car that you know is going to fail you. So sorry to hear this is happening to you, I hope they purchase the car back.
@@drewbenefield2001 guess they all have their issues. Our equinox has been flawless. No dilution at all. It replaces a hand me down Malibu that's running great at 162k with no mechanical hiccups. To me it's more about company integrity. Honda doesn't have that from my personal experience. I'll never forget it.
Depends on the design. Taking our GDI 1.5 equinox to 6k on basic pennzoil platinum. Oil analysis comes back with great numbers including fuel dilution which was so low it didn't measure a trace. As far as our previous Honda documented in this vid, I would have to agree though. By oil dilution industry standards it needed a change every 1500 miles or less. What's even more bizarre is the oil life meter on the Honda would try to take you to around 10k! I know those aren't always super accurate but that one is a head scratcher.
I was considering a Honda but the more I read and the more videos I watched the more I did not want to buy a Honda. In my opinion, if you are a respectable company, you should stand behind your product and make things right no matter what. From what I read Honda is simply refusing to deal with the problem. That makes me not want to buy their products. I guess I will be buying a Toyota.
What did you buy instead??? I was going in 3 days to buy a 2020 Honda CRV touring model. I will not be buying one now thx to this video! Cheers, thx for sharing! 👍
We ended up with an equinox. Nothing very fancy but no drama through 30k miles. Just out of curiosity we did an oil analysis after 6000 miles because the engine design is similar to the Honda (1.5, turbo, direct injection). There was absolutely no dilution at all which was very interesting.
@@coachvonyo Unbelievable. I went down the rabbit hole last night with this and was up until 2am. I'm glad you got out of your Honda...im off to test drive a Rav4 today! 👍 Thx again!
Its expected to have issues with a new design of engine, I wouldn't be too upset about that. But if Honda doesnt stand behide their cars then I would be mad. Honda should give you a lifetime warranty on your engine and drive train.
2019 Equinox. 1.5 direct injection turbo. Absolutely no dilution. There are things we like better on the CRV and others the Chevy but at the end of the day the dilution issue made this an easy win for our family. Except for the few thousand lost on the CRV.
Shouldn't have to do that on a pseudo economy vehicle but it didn't make a lick of difference on ours. It's been so long I'd have to watch my video again, but I believe we had a quart of raw gas or more in the oil by 3000 miles.
SMH Honda. It’s not just CR-V problem. It’s any of their engines with their GDI technology. Wow terrible quality. Americans will keep buying them though. So problem will stay, until they decide to fix it, which won’t happen
The long term wear on the bearings is the issue, nobody knows how much wear this is causing. Nobody forced Honda to switch from the bulletproof K24 engines to this 1.5L Earth Dreams nightmare.
I was going to purchase a 2019 CR-V in a couple of days. After seeing this I'm NOT going to buy it. Thanks for saving me from buying this vehicle.
2019 & 2020 does not have the same issue
Buy the Toyota RAV4. Better engine & better transmission than the honda
@@SCraig-Handsome What exactly did Honda fix on it then? A generalized statement like the one you posted needs some elaboration.
@@sblagg527 pretty simple actually… it’s the software ECU that was adjusted. They were using too much cooling and adjusted that.
In 2016 the Turbo was only available on the CR-V Touring. In 2017 it was available on all models. Turbos can overheat and damage the engine block, I.e. Toyota RAV4 engine blocks were cracking due to a tuning problem, tons of lawsuits and recalls.
I think it was resolved in Canada first in 2018 because there was still a problem in the USA with 2018’s.
Mine was built in Alliston Ontario but the engine was built in Marysville Ohio I believe. I have over 85,000km and recently had service and oil changes have averaged every 12,000km without any issues after 4 years of ownership.
I have had no issues, original brakes and tires. I have winter tires as well so probably close to 50K on my AS tires.
Definitely no oil dilution issues
@@HondaCivicEX-L wrong, not in the 8 speed automatic transmission.
You did a superb job in your explanation of the problem. A few years back … I was as loyal of a Honda customer as you could find. After this CRV fuel dilution issue… I sold my Honda vehicles and moved to Toyota all the way. Have not looked back. Never again Honda for me …. Thanks for the video.
Same here got rid of my wife's 2021 because of the oil dilution problem. Never Honda again 👎
Thanks for this video. I have a 2015 CRV on a lease which is coming to an end. I was about to ‘upgrade’ to a 2019 to keep the warranty going and get some new features but clearly it would’ve been a bad decision.
Bought a 2020 CR-V in February to replace a 2016, guess what? The 2020 warms up much faster, even tested it in extreme cold weather here in Canada. In -20 Celsius it warms up in 3 minutes. I have 11,000km (6,800 miles) with no oil dilution. Not only that but MM is at 30%. Won’t need an oil change for another 3-5000km. Average is at 16,000km despite extreme cold conditions in the Snow Belt. Honda CR-V is built here in Alliston Ontario. Oil dilution issues were resolved in 2018 for us.
My wife's new CR-V (2020) runs just fine.
Problem solved? No. Mine is 2019 CRV. Only 4000 km after oil change and ot is all black plus gasoline smell. It is going back once the lease is up. My last Honda this life time.
Thank you for taking the time to do this Video. I was ready to buy this Car.... Wow! You saved me from making a big mistake. Thanks so much !
The Honda drama continues. I've got an uncle I don't see a lot but met up for a family thing a couple of weeks back. He had a brand new 2019 CRV! I told him of all this and he said let's check the oil. 5000 miles and it was black crayon dark, smelled of fuel, and was an inch high. SMH.
This is so disappointing. All those years of amazing quality engines and this is where Honda is today. I guess I’ll be looking at Toyota this go around
I had a 2000 accord and my a/t made it to 120k miles before it died. I went through 3 distributers too lol. I noticed Honda's quality has been going downhill so instead I bought a new Camry this month.
@@phil1pd sorry to hear that, you must've had a bad car. That is not a common problem for hondas of that era. That was simply a maintenance item
Absolutely, Toyota has a dual fuel system. No problems here
@@AlexKim-zg1cxYes that's correct, Honda A/T are well known to have problems. I drove it for 15 years, but it started to act up a few years before I got rid of it. My a/t started leaking from the left or right front axle. It also needed to warm up before I drove it or it wouldn't change gears. Funny thing is the a/t worked flawless once it was warm, but I was adding a quart of a/t fluid every 3 days and new axles and seals did nothing to stop the leak, so I kept a few gallons of tranny fluid in the trunk lol
I like my new camry...except for the poorly programmed 8-speed a/t.
Chuck entleutner I had some Toyota issues but would definitely go back, traded in my Sienna in 2018. Had Sienna from 1998-2018. The maintenance is getting more expensive but they are still safe, reliable and continuously improving the product
I live in ND. We had the fake fix. We leased a 2018 CRV. The oil was changed at the time of the fix at Approx. 2000 miles. It now is a t 4600 miles...........today it is over the orange on the dipstick. We were intending to purchase the car after the lease is up. We don't put many miles per year on at all. To and from work and a trip to Oregon every summer. An extended warranty is bullshit given the miles I will have driven it. I have a 2011 CRV with 116k. Normally a Honda will last nearly forever if maintained. Makes me sick. It is my wife's pride and joy. At this moment she has it back to the Honda dealer. I just searched for a newer video on the problem and yours came up. I will post back when I hear what line of bull they try to give us this time.
Sorry man. It's a real bummer. My wife loved hers too. Luckily for me she loves her new equinox just as much.
So she just got back. Honda mechanic said the oil level was correct. He said he couldn't smell gas. I can still smell gas on my fingers and I washed them with soap. He acknowledged the problem with the engine but said Honda will do nothing unless there is a huge class action lawsuit. We decided to change oil at least every 5000 miles and maybe lease or buy a Toyota next time. I am so glad we leased this time. We considered buying as we have had great luck with our Honda's up to this point. Maybe I'll just buy a used 2015-16 to go with my 2011. New is nice, but better safe than sorry.
just walk away from the lease in 2022 .
I almost bought a 2018 CRV, but I ended up getting a RAV4 instead. If it wasn't for the dishonest and crafty Honda salespeople, then I would probably be driving one of these lemons today.
Nice choice. It's hard to beat a Toyota in the reliability department. Particularly against these CRVs.
RAV4 is a good choice, they last a long time and will forever be CR-V’s biggest competitor... they are just pricing them out of the market though
Honda sent me a letter in 2018 giving us 5 year engine warranty for my 2017 crv. I’m in canada, and my car was always driven on highway for 20-30min so the dilution wasn’t a big problem because engine was always up to temp and at rpm. I had recall done which was a ecu re-flash for cold start fuel/air mixture a year after we bought it. They replaced the heating control unit to fix the “low heat output” but it just basically keeps the fan from operating at full speed. I now live in the city and the car does short hops to drop off kids/work and I now notice the fuel in my oil waaaaaaaay more. I’ll have to do changes more frequently from now on. Once the 5year engine warranty is up, the car will be sold for sure
I am quite certain that Honda knows they have a catastrophic engineering design problem, to which their best solution is to make more money by surreptitiously shortening their maintenance intervals.
I have been driving for close to 60 years and as a 2nd-generation Detroit-born-and- raised motor head (my dad and his buddy had their own Model-A garage as high school kids), have always performed my own repair and maintenance on every vehicle (of 2 wheels or 4) that I have ever owned. As I approached my 70s I became much less likely to do anything more than; oil/filter changes, an occasional tune-up, valve adjustment, plugs, brake jobs, ect., but I did resent being unable to TOUCH my new vehicle. Unlike most "professional" mechanics (especially @ dealerships), when I repair a vehicle I intend to keep, I try to use the best available (sometimes used/rebuilt) replacement parts and take all the time necessary to do the best possible repair. When I change oil in a vehicle I intend to keep, I use only the best oil and best filter available and I usually flush during the process. To keep the Honda warranty, we now must let ONLY Honda perform ANY labour and use ONLY Honda parts.
What seemed baffling to me (although it is now becoming much clearer) was NO MENTION of a maintenance schedule in the owner's manual! Given the apparent total on-board computer control (and maybe INTERNET control) of 21st Century vehicles, it seems that the maintenance schedule is variable to the needs of the manufacturers and dealers.
This will be our 3rd Honda and we loved each of them, but we are now the unhappy owners of a 2018 CRV EX. The first year we only drove her for only short errands around our small town and trips of 100+ miles only twice. We always used her remote start to warm her up before driving and never jack-rabbited or abused her. We never noticed any variation of oil level, nor did we get a bulletin or recall notice. We did get the "MAINTENANCE DUE" popup on the dashboard at 3,000 mi. and used our "dealer freebie" to have our first oil and filter change early last month.
Later last month we drove to Florida & back, where we drove often at 70-90mph all day × 8 days, for a total of 3,000 mi+. When we got back to town, we found a 1 inch rise over "FULL" on her dipstick level.
Since we live in a high desert climate where it almost NEVER goes down to freezing, ALWAYS warming her up and NEVER accelerating aggressively (minimizing turbo pressure), Honda's theory that "...fuel dilution is due to insufficient warming, especially in cold climates..." is SHEER AND UTTER BULLSHIT!
So now we will take her in for the "Honda fix"; oil/filter change and the magical top-secret mumbo-jumbo software update, but the only way to test her is to drive 3,000mi. accross Texas (with their 80mph speed limit, our radar detector, a big bottle of No Doze and some adult diapers) and see if her oil level no longer rises!
Alternately, our next best option is to get rid of her and try to find a vehicle (preferably something from the last century) that a liitle old lady only drove to church on Sunday.
We did see a website that solicits membership in a law firm's class action suit, and are thinking about joining and taking their printout to show to the Honda service manager.
I was planning on buying a 2018 CRV next month. Shame on you Honda. RAV4 here I come. Thanks for posting this.
I just a 2019 CR-V EX literally three days after buying the car I filled up the gas tank then the heater and I had the smell of Gas running thru my vents... I was worried so I took it back to honda and. They serviced it and said nothing is wrong with it.. Of course they'd say that....
I'm wondering if I should just trade it in before it gets worse? It only has 9600 miles on it. I've only had. The car going on for a week now....
If you drive in cold climate on short commutes. I would get rid of it. I have a 2019 . I have installed a defa inline heater to get the engine to heater up faster. It has not helped much. I drive my crv in sport mode to keep the rpms up to heat up the engine. I also keep the heat on low, this allowing the engine to heat up faster. At a northern Ontario Canada dealership they have had ice in the crankcase of the 1.5 liter engine driven on short commutes. I will speak with my wallet.
@@m109r dang u said get rid of it I'm about to have my car for a month now.. But I have met other people that have had their crv 2019 and gotten to 60k miles with no problems.... So far I've been good.. I'm paying bumper to bumper in mine until 100k miles. I think ima just keep it... But ur making me worry.
@@m109r oh yeah and I live in Chicago too so u know it's cold I think u just have to let the engine actually warm up because of the turbo
Man, I agree for every word in this video.. and guess what, the problem still in 2019 model, yesterday day I went to buy crv exl in orange county California, and the date of the manufacturer of the car is March 2019 , so I removed the dipstick and the smell of the gasoline was very obvious, and as usual the salesman has no idea about the problem. Not only this but this selly man told me take the car today and go to the service tomorrow.
My advise is , don't go for any honda car with 1.5 turbo whatever crv,accord and civic
Thank you for this video
I'm glad you guys are making these videos. I love the new CRV body style, but I'll definitely be sticking to the 2.4 engine. I had a 07 CRV that was a tank, now I have a 06 Pilot that's also a tank. I've been Honda loyal since the 90's, but their quality has really fallen off. So sad to see it.
I had the same problems as you, I had a 2018 CR-V EX from February 2018 to March 2019. Put 10,600 miles on it. 4 Oil changes due to increasing levels and fuel smell. Ours was not eligible for update because in the VIN being bought in Texas. I first noticed there was something strange when I changed the oil myself at 3,500 miles and noticed how thin the oil was, the smell of gas from it and when I went to put the dirty oil into the oil containers I just used, I had about 3/4 quart left in the drain pan and the oil containers were all full. l I moved to upstate New York in July 2018 and changed the oil myself again because the dip stick level was about 3/4" over full and the same thing again, strong gas smell, really thin (water thin) and I had more oil than what I put in (exact type and amount of oil the manual called for). Then I started looking into things and found I wasn't alone with this problem. I took it to Honda Service and the told me my VIN was not eligible for the update. I told them the problems I was having with the increasing levels of oil, strong smell of gas in the oil, the gas smell inside the cabin, the car taking about 30 min to 40 min to warm up in 25 degrees (longer in colder weather), the temperature would drop when idling and the heat in the car would turn to slight warm. The service manager down-played everything, told me to drive the car in Sport Mode (so it rev's higher) and leave the heat off, no I'm NOT Joking and then BLAMED the problem on me for driving it on too many short trips (my wife's work is 3 miles away). The service manager told me its direct injection and its normal to have fuel in the oil, and its normal for the car to take 30 to 40 min to fully warm up......wait for it......because All the other CR-V's on the lot were doing the same thing! I called Honda, no help at all, told me the same thing...no drivablity issues blah blah..it's normal... blah blah. I kept the car until almost 11k miles and got Toyota. Since 1992, I have only owed Honda and Acura, 26 of them. I will never buy another Honda, they have lost me permanently as their customer. It was completely obvious to me (based on my research on the "fix" for this) that Honda's resolution was to put a half-assed bandaid of a fix on bad engine thats only going to last about 90k miles because its being lubricated by gas. The problem isn't software programming, the a/c, or the cold weather, it's the design of the engine; they messed up by mixing a overly high pressure turbo system for a 1.5L with a poorly designed direct injection system with the wrong piston rings and I'm sure the problem has Honda's lawyers working overtime.
Sounds like you had a similar experience. You also did a better job explaining the source of the problem than I did. I agree that it is something with the engine design which may be why they came off to me as if they didn't know anything. Maybe they know, but don't want to replace the engine in all of these vehicles. We are traditionally a GM family, although this was our second Honda. I have owned lots of Honda off road machines and motorcycles.I'm going to have a hard time pulling the trigger on one again not because of the problem, but the lack of integrity in how they deal with their customers. We ended up with a 1.5 turbo AWD equinox. There are things we liked better about the Honda, and things we like better about the chevy. But the fact that it doesn't have an oil dilution problem makes it the clear winner for our family. Thanks for sharing your experience on this video.
Yes, lack of integrity is the main problem when you get down to the foundation of the problem. I would have kept it and stood by Honda if they responded with something more than complete and obvious lies that were designed for the people who don't change their own oil and think a software update will the fix engine stalling out, the lack power at random times, the fuel smell in the cabin, and worst of all the increasing oil levels, with abundant levels of gas in the oil.
Also, I suspect Honda engineers knew about the "under heating" problem with this engine and thought they could fix it with the auto shutters behind the grill that sit in front of the radiator. th-cam.com/video/DNv5Nuza87I/w-d-xo.html
I know a little bit about how engines work, I'm not a engineer, but I know if you cut the air blow-by across the radiator during driving, the engine will heat faster. I wonder if Honda had a ton of these engines ready for assembly in cars to be sold in China and then they suddenly couldn't sell them there anymore (because of strict laws with recall) and Honda had a lot of engines already made and plans to make more to offset the r/d (research and development) and they decided to polish up a turd and sell it in the US?
I'm sure if I can figure this out, the really smart lawyers out there wanting to make a name for themselves can do something to help all of those who put their trust and money into a crap Honda .
asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Honda-to-resume-sales-of-China-flagship-CR-V
www.reuters.com/article/us-china-autos-honda/japans-honda-to-recall-350000-cars-in-china-over-engine-issue-idUSKBN1FW124
I forgot to mention, thank you for time, and providing this information to everyone. The information you provided is extremely helpful to every CR-V owner because you had your oil tested. I got the test kit myself but never sent it out for testing, I decided to get out of it and trade it in. Thanks and good luck with your new SUV !
you're not alone. I have a civic Si 1.5T engine that has the same unusually high oil level with water thin viscosity/gas soaked oil . Took it to the dealer and its amazing how condescending these SOBs can be . "everything is normal" "high oil level will not hurt the engine" " you should check it while its hot and within 3 minutes from driving" . Im not kidding, thats EXACTLY how he told me, he only shut his pie hole when I told him i rebuild engines. Honda has a big problem in their hands and btw.. i live in California
No way I’ll ever buy a Honda! You reading this HONDA? MOPAR for me!
They always say they don't know !!! My sister bought an accord with the 1.5 I asked Honda have you had many cars come in with the oil dilution problems they said they had no clue what I was taking about I told them Honda is on is way to be the new Nissan
Great point! I've heard Nissan is handling their faulty CVT transmissions with the same lack of integrity as Honda and 1.5 oil dilution. That is the reason we didn't test drive a Rogue when looking to get rid of our CRV.
@@coachvonyo is sad really I myself have a 2017 civic base model with the natural aspirated engine 2.o but I can't tell you the built quality is lacking my 98 civic was better built I have about 30 thousand miles on it no problems knock on wood so far...
@@coachvonyo Honda is sliping big time and need to take care of their customers and do them right is their fault not the customer for not designing the engine properly and don't get me started on this CVT which I don't trust
@@Oaktwn16 couldn't agree more with the build quality point. When we had ours in for the "product enhancement" I got in to drive it out of the bay and the push button on the shifter broke and shot out of the shifter itself. Plastic pieces and a spring shot out. They came over and said it's a know problem, a brittle part. I asked how many other things are a known fault on the vehicle?
@@coachvonyo that's the same thing that happened to a co-worker with his CR-V Honda took it apart fixing it and he asked what they found his was also getting stuck Honda says we didn't find anything bullshit
Well done explanation. Turbo engines and cvt transmissions sucks in newer cars. Honda does not stand behind those issues, it looks to me like planned obsolescence, exactly what BMW does by using plastic parts in their engines instead of metal.
Most likely one of the problems is the oil control rings. Not just limited to Honda but to most modern engines. Rings are designed way too narrow in order to reduce drag.
My mom has a 2001 Honda Accord and wanted a 2018 Honda CRV. I talked to several dealers and no one told me about this problem. I can not afford to throw away $20,000 plus dollars and have to replace the engine in a few years. I just called her and told her what I found and she is appalled. I didn’t trust Hyundai or Mazda Crv’s and now I have to add Honda to that list. I work hard for my money and when I purchase a car keep it for years. The light just came on at Toyota and I have to investigate their lineup of vehicles and whether they back up what they sell.
this isnt good my wife inherited her fathers 2018 1.5 turbo atleast she didn't buy it but I told her get rid of oi it has 8 thousand klm on it
You may not say it, but I will........DO NOT BUY A HONDA. Says the owner of a 2018 Honda CR-V EX with 4,400 miles on it. I wished also that I would of seen videos and known before I bought mine as well. I didn't find out until two months later. Thanks for the video, you hit everything right on the head. Honda had the problem in 2017 models, went on to make 2018 models knowing their was an issue, and since they have yet to find a solution, they are probably making the 2019 model with the same issues. Thanks for getting the word out!
Yes I will be shocked if the 2019s are fixed since they cannot seem to fix 17-18. Honda makes a good vehicle most the time but when something like this hits they are terrible. I suppose they hope their longstanding reputation will carry them through.
With any new product being introduced, there’s bound to be some sort of problem as the manufacturer continues to make improvements. Honda is lagging here but I am sure or hope they are changing that for the better. As Honda owner for 2015, I’ve to say Honda’s quality definitely has went down significantly over the years. Coming from a Honda family, comparing my car to the older ones... older ones are rock solid. In my humble opinion, Honda please step it up big time. You have loyal customers that expect WAY more out of you. Soon people will walk away to another competitor. Like Toyota or German brands. This isn’t to bash Honda, because they are reputable company. But, with quality depreciation like this more & more ... idk if it will be in that same light 🤷🏽♂️
Absolutely, Had three Honda vehicles. All were gems, except Last one was junk. Never again, Honda
Thank you for responding back to me. What 2024 crossovers that should get that doesn't have alot of oil issues?
Full disclosure, I haven't researched this issue beyond Honda. But I am not aware of any other manufacturer having this issue. The next vehicle we owned after the CRV was an equinox. Very similar engine. 1.5 direct injection turbo. It had no oil/fuel dilution after a full oil change interval.
No problems with mine after 15 months and about 30K miles. Oil has never risen past the top mark. I have a feeling that they must have a batch of bad injectors or something that went into some of the vehicles. My feeling is that the reason you saw no change after the fix is that they did nothing to your vehicle or maybe they never changed the injectors. Sad situation, I feel sorry for you. I know at least six people with 2018s and none of them have an issue.
I have 2018 crv 12500 miles on it and ac compressor needs replaced..thank goodness still under warranty
We have a 2018 Honda Accord 1.5 Turbo engine and it's has 8,000 miles on it. We had to do 2 oil changes and shorty after the 2nd one the engine light came on and the car stalled and we coasted to a parking lot. We took the car into David McDavid Honda in Frisco, TX and they said their diagnostics didn't find anything and sent us on our way. We did some research and that prompted me to check the oil and it smell of gasoline and it was well beyond the full line. We are taking the car back in tomorrow and let's see what they tell us.
Man I'm sorry. Unbelievable how Honda treats it customers.
Sorry to hear of your Honda issue's
I have a 2016, civic with a 1.5 turbo.
Now have 230000k on it. Change oil every 5000 kilometers, mostly hyway Miles, have seen some small amounts of oils delution but nothing major like inches, engine has been very Strong.
Re Honda looking after you, my ac failed at 6 ,years 170000 k, connected dealer, they checked, condenser had failed, fixed under extended warranty, n/c . Doesn't get much better than that.
My first Honda, I'd buy another in a heartbeat
PS: i work in The automotive parts industry calling on auto repair facilities, uf you ask most Tech's what cars have the least issues, you get this reply.
Honda or Toyota, thats The reason i bought a Honda and am very Happy AT this point
Hopefully that remains The Case.
Cheers
From Canada so we see some extreme winter weather here.
Full warmup before you drive helps tons
Cold weather issue??? RIGHT!
I've been driving for 44 years, same streets, never had issues with 10 other cars. Explain that Honda!
My 1990 Plymouth Acclaim had the same issue, so bad it wouldn’t even start in cold weather without flooding the engine with gasoline... my oil was mostly gas!! It was Car of the Year!!
To high pressure fuel being blown into the combustion chamber as the piston rises and squeezes the mixture past the piston rings and into the crankcase where the motor oil resides. It's a clearance issue or lack of a piston ring. The reason why people are complaining about the lack of cabin heat is because Honda has the heat set to rise slower so the engine can warm up faster thus warming the cylinders faster to help and try to reduce the clearance between the piston ring and cylinder wall. The problem is that their repair is a small band aide being applied to a large cut.
Just traded my 18 Touring this past Tuesday. The absolute worst heat from a vehicle I've ever encountered, it was comparable to my 1968 Beetle. I live in Northern Maine, so this is a dangerous/safety issue. The vehicle could not produce enough heat to keep the windows defrosted, unless you were doing highway speeds, and even then the minute you get to a stop light etc, the engine temp begins dropping to zero, and now you're getting cold air blown into the cabin.
I told my dealership they should NOT be selling these vehicles in our area (or any cold climate locations). Thank god I was able to get rid of it.
my experience is the complete opposite, I had a 2010 and 2016 CR-V which both heat up fairly quick even in the Canadian Snow Belt. 2020 I just bought and it is 2x faster to heat up and turbo does not overheat. In fact, this has not been a problem since 2017 in my area. Also, Civic and CR-V are made here since 2012 and Honda addressed the issue here in 2018.
2016 Honda Civic has the same issue and I drive 40 minutes to work everyday.
Same thing with my 2017 Civic
Turbo or na?
@@Spawn223311 I have the 1.5T
No problems on my 2020 2.0 N/A civic. K20C2 is port injected too, so it’s more of a proven engine.
Glad I got the 2014 then.
Just saw someone posted a remark from the manual of a 2019 Civic Si :
Under certain driving conditions, it is normal for the engine oil level to rise above the upper mark. If you have a concern, consult a dealer for details
Even if they could make a scientific case that this is acceptable, the degree to which it rises cannot be passed as normal or acceptable.
@@coachvonyo Correct, they knew of this flawed design before it was sold but it was too late and expensive for them to fix. Fuel in the crankcase is never a good thing.
Should I buy a 2024 Honda CR-V EX-L with the oil issues?
I cannot say if they fixed this issue by now or not. I would have a tough time trusting them after my experience.
There's a reason why Honda removed the "earth dreams" badge off of this engine. The direct injection plus turbo builds up too much pressure and pushes gasoline past the rings. I think it's simply the design, that small of an engine cannot handle that much pressure. Stiffer or wider rings may be a fix?
It's good that you got rid of it now than later where many CRVs will be in the market by then and everyone will know the issue with it, which could be hard to sell.
What about Mitsubishi 2024 crossovers?
Wish I could help you with that. I really don't know.
Sad because otherwise this vehicle is perfect.
I can't disagree. We loved ours but this problem was just too much for us.
Very well presented. Good point that GM, Ford and Mitsubishi also have 1.5L direct injected turbo engines and don't have this problem. I have the same report from Oil Analyzers on an interval of only 2600km after my 2017 CR-V has had the so called fix. Mine was also diluted in the heat of last summer. Honda Canada won't reply to me anymore. I will not be keeping it another winter.
Thank u for sharing your story because I just bought a the same car and I’m having the same problem- and Honda is not helping- I’m in the process of getting a lawyer it’s that bad- I’m saving this video for my case
I have the same problem . I live in northern Canada. Honda Canada blamed the dealership for not being able to fix the oil dution and lack of heat. I have heater control module changed computer updates and the new 0-20 installed. The dealership has told me they have seen ice in the crankcase of some these engines. Iam heavy equipment technician and have never heard of ice in a crankcase. I have been a loyal honda owner since 1991. I had convinced all my family and friends to drive a reliable honda. I now will speak with my wallet and this is my last honda. Very disappointed that honda will not stand behind their product. I have also installed a defa inline block heater and interior heater. Doubled my oil changes. I also drive it in sport mode to keep the rpms up. Do not buy any honda with 1.5 liter to be driven in a cold climate on short commutes.
I am scared because 2019 Honda crv 1.5 engine might blow up because gas mixing into oil.
HP Movies does the 2019 also has this issue?
Yes the 2019 absolutely still does this.
Not from what I can tell, in Canada this was only a problem in 2017. We fixed it in 2018, Honda fixed the Canadian cars 1st. In the US I found 99 complaints in 2017 according to CarComplaints.com, 55 in 2018, 1 in 2019 and 0 in 2020. Despite what you read on Social Media no one is actually reporting this issue in 2 years.In Canada it has been 3 years.
Does this happen on the accord 1.5 I got a notice to bring it in for a computer update now I am thinking they changed something in the computer
Is this problem valid for diesel or gasoline engine?I just want buy a Honda
We're having the same problem. Honda and the dealer are saying to drive the vehicle but bring it in if we experience any problems. We smelled fuel in the cabin within 3 mths of owning the vehicle and thats when I discovered this problemm. Honda is not being honest and they are trying to kick this problem down the road as long as possible. I am super disappointed in my experience in dealing with both Corporate and our local dealer. Its extremely insulting and infuriating to know you've been sold a major product that you know isn't right. Even worse, they tell you that there's nothing further to be discussed. I'll never buy another Honda product again!
Agreed. It's unbelievable. I cannot believe they treat their own customers this way. I'm still angry about it and ours has been gone for months.
ALL GDI engines get COLD WASHING of cylinders if you don’t allow the engine to warm up before driving . You will also have your catalytic converters burn out to from unburnt fuel .
We’ve been looking at cars and the 2019 CRV is one of them. Now I come across this and other videos and info. COREY, I can’t find where you said what vehicle you have. I read an article in Torque News that “if you have purchased a 2019 Honda Civic or CRV all 2019 models are being updated at the factory”. What do you know about the 2019’s or even the 2020’s.
From what I've seen the update they gave ours is what the 2019s got which didn't help the issue at all. My understanding is this problem is a design flaw with the 1.5 or else it would be fixed by now. Until they update the engine significantly I wouldn't touch it.
@@coachvonyo So disappointing. We were set to pull the trigger but the search goes on. Any suggestions...anyone?
@@pstock426 We got a 2019 Equinox with the 1.5 and love it. I wouldn't hesitate to own the Toyota Mazda or Subaru. Just be glad you saw this before buying one!
@@coachvonyo Thank you sir. CX5 now at the top of the list. Maybe a second look at a Subaru.
One more question. Are the direct injection motors also responsible for carbon buildup behind the valves? That is another issue i see often. Thks
It seems most Turbo CRV's have problem owners just don't notice it. Eveyrone I know who owns one discovers the problem when told to watch for it. Why are all the auto journalists still recommending it.
They are as bad as Honda.
I agree. It's absolutely insane this vehicle wins anything because of this problem. It's just dishonest.
I had a brand new 2016 CRV Touring, NON TURBO, NON TURBO...
I had bad oil dilution issue. Dipstick smelled like a gas can, inch high on dipstick. Problem is the Direct Injection, not Turbo engines. However, Turbo engines might show it worse
Chuck entleutner I had a 2016 EX-L and never had the issue despite short trips, less than a mile in each direction and always warm the car up and begin slowly. Sub -30 Celsius days too, never had oil dilution. Not saying it didn’t happen but if it was all over social media maybe I would have tested it. Usually I don’t look for problems though. I will say one thing though, I learned about this issue when I was young due to a gas injection problem so I still drive differently as a natural instinct. Maybe some people will learn from this and be better for it
im seeing this problem in alot automaic trans..........is this problem only in automatic trans??? if so maybe its time to learn stick shift.
I was going to buy a Civic si until I recently found out about this major problem. Sounds like their high pressure fuel system is a total failure. Too much pressure blows fuel past cold rings and disaster. So what did you end up trading for?
Yes it was so bad I couldn't believe it. I know makers are getting better at high pressure DI but no clue on if Honda ever remedied this. We got an equinox with the 1.5 DI immediately after. Did an oil analysis after a full oil change interval and no oil/fuel dilution.
Luckily, I brought the LX with the 2.4L normal engine. I feel sorry for you guys who spent $30K for a new car and have to constantly worry about this oil dilution problem, and the worst is that its market value will tank.
Check carefully. I have seen 2 posts saying they got oil dilution from your model and engine.
your 2017 is still direct injection even though its the 2.4 lx . They started direct injection on the 2015 model gen 4 .
Just got 2019 CRV EXL ... I've put 120miles so far on it... have I've seen this video first... I would have not pushed thru.. guess it's too late now.. just gonna pray this car don't blow up on me or my family... sad cause we love the car so much :(
EX-L doesn't have fuel dilution ? think about 5-8 years down the road , I am confused b/w RAV4 and CRV-EXL
I have a 2020 and it does not have this issue, infact I traded in my 2016 EXL - warms up much quicker and 0 oil dilution
Omg! Was going to buy this weekend. I don't know what to do now.
Highly recommend not purchasing one. We've had great luck so far with our 2019 Equinox. Can't go wrong with a Toyota or Mazda. Ford Escape is probably decent too.
I would recommend selling that vehicle ASAP!
Great video - disappointed in Honda. This close to buying a new CRV - not now. Have read too many stories like this.
Our 2021 CRV STILL HAS THIS PROBLEM!! Lemon law?
I just got a 2019 CRV and didn't know about this until after I bought it. I smelled my oil and it smells like gas. And it has already rose above the full line... It has 300 miles on it... This is crazy... You'd think if they knew what was causing this they would have fixed it in the 2019's so they clearly have no idea...
It's unbelievable they are still selling these engines without a fix 3 years in. Even worse, the traffic/highway safety administration has not or can not step up and force their hand.
I have the samthing in my crv this is ongoing engine failure in the future.
I just had the update done on my 2017 CRV LX and the oil stick smells like gasoline still. My husband thinks that all he has to do is "sweeten" the oil monthly buying a syringe type gadget on Amazon. Is this a viable solution? I seriously am concerned about safety issues as this is my car. Could it stall while I am on the highway? Thank you for your video. Wish I would have seen it prior to purchasing.
Suctioning out some of the diluted oil and adding fresh oil back to full will extend your drain intervals and protection but how much I can't say. Oil analysis could be beneficial but it's a shame we as owners have to do things like your husband is doing to work around this defect. As for stalling, as long as you keep the oil level from rising too high that shouldn't happen. From what I've seen stalling usually occurs when someone isn't monitoring this and the oil gets too high. Ours rose so fast it was impossible to stay ahead of it. Even after the product enhancement.
my 2017 and my sisters crv doing same thing
what year????
My daughter needs to replace a vehicle, liked the CRV. Think we are going to pass.
You did your best to work with Honda. Unacceptable! Sad what they did to a vehicle with a good reputation. Toyota 2.4's in mid-2000's had big oil consumption issues. They did a recall and replaced a lot of rings. Tough to swallow, but at least Toyota stood by it.
wich vehicle after Honda did you buy 1.5 turbo direct injection..and you belive its ok....VW??? Or??
Chevy equinox. Oil doesn't rise or drop a millimeter after a full duration between changes
@@coachvonyo also with my honda civic 1.5 turbo 2018 in europe after 20000 miles
2020 CRV with about 12,000 miles. Cold climate area. Filled the crankcase with dillution twice so far. Dealership says they see it all the time here. Complete piece of shit ! Worst new car ever owned. No more Honda's ever again for us. ( And I have had Hondas since the 80's. )
Please note that Honda is no longer genuine Japanese company since 2009, the 7th president, Mr. Ito is a Korean Japanese, and the 8th president,
Mr. Yago as well. Since then, many of Honda's parts have been made in Korea, the same source as Hyundai. It's no wonder that the quality
deteriorates. Mr.Soichiro Honda is crying at the grave now. He once said"don't get involved with Korean people". Because they stole a lot of
technology from him. This is a secret rumor that "Honda has been hijacked by Koreans", but today it appears as evidence of these problems
that Honda has never had before.
I'm sorry to hear that bad news. Some say that trying 91 octane gas may be an idea to help. They should have kept the old 2.4 L engine. The Honda Hybrid model is different engine. Avoid the 1.5 L turbo. I don't think a software update is the answer. BTW Toyota Rav 4 has a normal ,non turbo engine and a normal transmission, not CVT .
All people need to file class action lawsuit with the government.What department in the government do you talk too.
+Corey What did you end up trading it in for ?
2019 Equinox. It also has a 1.5 turbo direct injected engine. Absolutely no dilution. Oil looks and smells great after 5000 miles. No rise or drop. There are things we liked better about the Honda and things we like better about the Chevy. Close to a wash there, but not having the engine defect makes it a winner for us.
I got the 1.5t accord. Blown motor. Bad fuel injectors. Leaks oil from the bottom transmission side. It has 68k miles Honda won’t fix it bc it’s not under warranty.
From what we know, honda has little experience with turbos and it's starting to show. I dont understand why they went this route because they made proven and fantastic n/a motors just a few years ago
honda made turbo engine in formula 1 in the 80ths....and made also diesel since 2004..and honda lokked long time at the possible problems of turbo direct engines before they decided to make it...i have that honda with 1.5 turbo..with no oil dilution..nor problems at all
Honda has a great deal of experience with turbocharged engines have been racing them for years I believe it is a software problem
thanks for making this video. i am very disappointed with honda. i am looking to replace my civic so i went to check out some crv's today. almost bought 2017. not going to happen now.
Does the non turbo charged 2.4 litre have the same oil dillution problem?
I don't believe so but cannot say for sure. I have heard a few say some of their NA motors do the same thing sometimes but haven't researched it.
@@coachvonyo I've heard that it mainly plagues the 1 5 litre . But I've also heard the 2.4 litre is affected
@@Str8Rippin93 hard to believe Honda would have issues this large. Too bad they don't handle things with integrity related to their customers.
@@coachvonyo well I just bought a 2019 with the 2.4 litre. So I'm doing a Ton of research to see if that motor is affected.. I'm crossing my fingers
IMO my 2016 does not have oil dilution but it does not warm up as fast so it will be at a higher risk than the 2020 I just bought. Also, in my area this has not been a problem in 3 years now
I have a brand new 2019 have had it only 6 week's now. DO NOT BUY A CRV DO NOT. MY ENGINE IS MAKING A WHINING NOISE and the dip stick smells like pure gas! It's also like he says an inch overfill! So I'm contacting Honda 1st thing in the a.m! Here were go. It's also lost power!
Hi Corey does the normal 2.0L CRV engine (non turbo) of 2019 has this issue as well? As I was about to buy one? .. thanks in advance!
I couldn't say with 100% certainty but I have not seen or heard that it does. From my experience it is the 1.5 turbo only.
Corey Vuagniaux thanks for the feedback, and for the quick response
california have a clss action law suit. 1.5 earth dream turbo engines.They use low tension piston rings.
I was hoping you would get 20 million uploads on this as we caught this problem before and bought a Toyota. Good Luck!
They fixed this though right? I just bought one and it heats well with no odors. My infotainment screen did a weird glitch today though
They say it has been fixed. The update did NOT fix the problem. Do an oil analysis after 3k to see how bad yours is. The issue will be there for sure, the degree to which it's there does vary. My uncle's is a brand new 2019. Still does it.
ALL car brands have had recalls. Toyota tops the charts of recalls for all brands for the past 30 years with 818 notices. This was resolved and customers got an extended warranty because Honda cares. 2020 to present are well tuned machines with no issues and one of the best CRVs on the road.
Do you think an oil catch can would help the problem?
No it will not. With this engine, fuel is washing past piston rings and into the crankcase.
Wow. Never thought I’d see the day Kia ranked higher than Honda in consumer reports 😂
i wish i would know this problem before then i would never buy honda crv. i bought 2021 honda crv exl. i hope they fixed the problem.
😳...Hopefully it doesn't effect the newer model vehicles. It's not like Honda will tell you otherwise.
Should be a total recall in USA, like China. A warranty is only as good as how they honor it!
Never again, Honda, ever. Toyota!
Only 1 reported issue in 2019, none in 2020 in USA, in Canada this was fixed in 2018 before US so we are going on 3 years now with no GDI issues
Do both L15B7 and L15BA have this problem?
I have not seen any evidence that one has less of an issue. But I cannot speak to the question with 100% certainty. Based on what I do know, it seems the one that's in the CRV (higher HP) could be worse.
I know 8 people with the 1.5 turbo engine...all are 2-3 years old. Not one has this issue.
Some of them do it far worse than others, but they all do it to some degree. If they watch the oil level closely over time I'd bet it rises. Certainly, if they do an oil analysis after Honda's recommended interval I'm 100% sure it will be beyond dilution limits.
How can you absolutely say that. Have they taken they checked the dipstick and smelled the oil to see if it smells like fuel.. have the oil been analyzed.. don't be so quick to dismiss this issue. The reason why there are so many videos on it is not because people are here for views. They are trying to warn others and hopefully facilitate some change.
@@coachvonyo I have been watching videos on this issue and reading about it for a week or so. I was looking to get a 2017, 2018 CRV for me and the wife that we can keep for a while, and just happen to stumble upon this issue. I live in Canada where the extended warranty for engine parts is in effect, but do I really want to drop 25k on a car that might need and engine rebuild in a few years? And at that point how much out of pocket expense is needed because they can say well this and that was not covered under the warranty... It's such a gamble.. just not worth it. I really hope this blows up for them properly because theese "fixes" are not working it seems. Sorry for the rant, thank you for all the information sir.
@@vbad128 Like I already said, they have owned their vehicles for 2 to 3 years and there have been no problems with warm ups or gas smell from the oil or thing, diluted oil. NONE.
I don’t own one, but I also KNOW 8 people with 1.5 turbo engine…all are 2-3 years old. All of them has this issue.
What did you replace the crv with?
2019 Equinox. There are things we like better about the CRV and others the Equinox. The oil dilution makes it no contest though. The equinox is a 1.5 turbo direct injection engine too. 2k in and the oil is still golden smells like oil instead of gas and hasn't moved a millimeter up or down on the stick. The Honda would be up a half inch or more with raw gas already.
@@coachvonyo, Last year i chose a 18 equinox over the 18 CRV because of fuel dilution..I got 43,000 miles on the equinox 1.5t...no issues so far and oil level stays perfect...Never thought i would pick a chevy over a honda but they're resting on their laurels because of their past reputation on reliability...They've been going down hill for awhile.
It’s nov and I’m looking at a 2019 CR-V ex....now I’m afraid to buy it. Has your issue changed at all?
Live in stl
Do not buy! There has been no fix and the salesmen/Honda will lie to your face. I don't say this lightly, I feel bad saying it actually. But it is the truth.
It’s not affecting 2019 or 2020
I have a 2019 CR-V Touring no problems 25k miles. Also 2019 Accord Touring 2.0t no problems 15k miles.
Imagine purchasing a top dollar brand new car and then having to deal with this issue. And then turning around and the company Honda doesn't have a fix for it.
And then what do you do, your powerless against a huge company like Honda? Your stuck with a car that you know is going to fail you.
So sorry to hear this is happening to you, I hope they purchase the car back.
What vehicle did you traded it to. Thanks for this.
2019 Equinox with a 1.5 DI turbo. We love it. No dilution. No problems.
@@coachvonyo My aunt bought a 2019 Equinox and the transmission went out at 12k miles.
@@drewbenefield2001 guess they all have their issues. Our equinox has been flawless. No dilution at all. It replaces a hand me down Malibu that's running great at 162k with no mechanical hiccups. To me it's more about company integrity. Honda doesn't have that from my personal experience. I'll never forget it.
@@coachvonyo thanks for the reply! Your right! Stay safe!
6000 mile is way to much for a GDI. It would say 3500 mills at most.
Depends on the design. Taking our GDI 1.5 equinox to 6k on basic pennzoil platinum. Oil analysis comes back with great numbers including fuel dilution which was so low it didn't measure a trace. As far as our previous Honda documented in this vid, I would have to agree though. By oil dilution industry standards it needed a change every 1500 miles or less. What's even more bizarre is the oil life meter on the Honda would try to take you to around 10k! I know those aren't always super accurate but that one is a head scratcher.
I was considering a Honda but the more I read and the more videos I watched the more I did not want to buy a Honda. In my opinion, if you are a respectable company, you should stand behind your product and make things right no matter what. From what I read Honda is simply refusing to deal with the problem. That makes me not want to buy their products. I guess I will be buying a Toyota.
What did you buy instead??? I was going in 3 days to buy a 2020 Honda CRV touring model. I will not be buying one now thx to this video! Cheers, thx for sharing! 👍
We ended up with an equinox. Nothing very fancy but no drama through 30k miles. Just out of curiosity we did an oil analysis after 6000 miles because the engine design is similar to the Honda (1.5, turbo, direct injection). There was absolutely no dilution at all which was very interesting.
@@coachvonyo Unbelievable. I went down the rabbit hole last night with this and was up until 2am. I'm glad you got out of your Honda...im off to test drive a Rav4 today! 👍 Thx again!
Its expected to have issues with a new design of engine, I wouldn't be too upset about that. But if Honda doesnt stand behide their cars then I would be mad. Honda should give you a lifetime warranty on your engine and drive train.
no engine last lifetime max 7-8 years of warranty
Is this on their turbo engine only???
Yes
What car did you buy Corey?
2019 Equinox. 1.5 direct injection turbo. Absolutely no dilution. There are things we like better on the CRV and others the Chevy but at the end of the day the dilution issue made this an easy win for our family. Except for the few thousand lost on the CRV.
Corey Vuagniaux I was looking at a 2019 CRV. Thank you for help! I will purchase another suv instead.
2020 Toyota Camry XSE V6 it is!!! I was really thinking of getting the 2020 Honda Accord Touring 2.0. Great Review!!!!
rafael millan 2.0 T accord don’t have those problems, just 1.5
The CR-V hybrid has a 2.0L non turbo engine.
#run premium fuel change the oil light for 3000
Shouldn't have to do that on a pseudo economy vehicle but it didn't make a lick of difference on ours. It's been so long I'd have to watch my video again, but I believe we had a quart of raw gas or more in the oil by 3000 miles.
SMH Honda. It’s not just CR-V problem. It’s any of their engines with their GDI technology. Wow terrible quality. Americans will keep buying them though. So problem will stay, until they decide to fix it, which won’t happen
The long term wear on the bearings is the issue, nobody knows how much wear this is causing. Nobody forced Honda to switch from the bulletproof K24 engines to this 1.5L Earth Dreams nightmare.