Never Buy a Honda With This Engine
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- Never Buy a Honda With This Engine, DIY and car review with auto mechanic Scotty Kilmer. Buying a Honda. Is the Honda Civic and CR-V new engine worth it? Cars you should never buy and avoid. Honda engine problems. Should I buy a Honda. Are the new Honda engines reliable? The truth about the new Honda engine oil dilution. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 51 years.
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What about the 2018 honda civic si 1.5 turbo guessing the same thing?
I have a question for ya to answer [if ya want]. I am almost 16 years old, and I can't decide whether to buy a 2006 Lexus IS250 with a 6-speed manual or a 2007 Toyota Matrix XRS, also with a 6-speed manual and what is technically an engine built for the Lotus Elise but downgraded from 190 to 175 horsepower. The main issue is it's likely that both types of vehicles sell fairly quickly.
2017 Honda Civic si here. No plastic cover on the head. Guess it’s a crv thing. No problems about oil dilution in my car. I heard it’s more prevalent in CR-Vs and non si’s. I do oil changes roughly 7500 miles or whenever my car says I’m at 30% oil life. Then again I’m in central Texas where it’s hot 80% of the time.
I've been scammed (because i knew nothing about cars couples months ago) and now i'm suck with this 2000 Ranger 4.0L OHV ... it started with coolant leak (put a prestone leakstop since it was winter here and i don't have a garage) then it was idling way too high, muffler's broken at 2-3 places and now it's burning oil like crazy (a quart/500km) .... so yeah, i'm having problem with this engine ...
Great job Scotty! You just found a flaw in Honda engine,whereas army of Honda engineers failed to...perhaps you should become Honda top engineer.Not.
About 5 years ago I could not start my car and nobody could find
out why, after searching for answers on the web I
discovered the channel of Scotty Kilmer, I desperately asked him
knowing that he would probably never see my question and never take the
time to respond.
Well I was wrong, he responded to me and took the time to explain
in detail what could be wrong, he pinpointed the problem and I fix my
car at almost not costs thanks to Scotty.
So today I just wanted to say thank you! for everything you do and literately the millions of peoples
that you have helped!
I will never forget the time you took to help me.
But youre a realtor: you steal people's life savings.
@@mazdarex7 So frecking true. here they charge up to 8-10% on 500k houses. Where the F$/% are they really working on to get a 50k salary for a cpl visits and papers.
@@Slymel22 yeah bro, then they pressure seller to money pit improvements to make it easier to sell to the cissiese. We bought one and sold two "by owner" 92 and 2008, no hassles, split the commission.
@@mazdarex7 Realtors don't, the banks do.
@@johnp556 banks amortize and get rent from "buyers" who can't afford the house. Realtors make too high a percent of the price of a house. Lazy or scared or wannabe consumers pay up a lot for many years.
And remember to rake your leaves to prevent forest fires under your hood.
And to edge that lawn!
Open headers and dead grass
lol
I noticed that too. I have to do that all the time, leaves and pine needles. Also clogs your cabin air intake and filter.
@@fideauone3416 This car has so many leaves they're probably acting as an air filter on their own.
Am I the only one who can’t stand looking at those leaves by the windshield lol
I've told him to clean those two birds nests.
I wanted to run grab my shop vac so bad.
1.5L turbo Civic here - simple fix, ignore the maintenance minder and change oil every 5k miles or less (40-50% remaining according to the car). I run 5W-30 in the summer to deal with 100°F+ summers and 0W-20 in the winter, both synth.
That's it I'm ordering an Amish buggy to get to work.
rev up your horse
Don't do it! Horse blow-by is even worse, not to mention it smells terrible. And if it dies, not even Scotty can fix it.
Total muuny pit.
Don't forget the horse 😂
Dont forget to have your horse-shoes rotated on a regular basis.
Ah, Scotty, you're the dad I never had, teaching me about how to take care of my car! Thank you!!
I have a dad but he never really takes any time to teach me anything or get to know me at all.....
Luis M I bet your dad loves you more than you realise.
I felt those vibes
@@luism8612 ask him to teach you
And he doesn’t yell at you when you don’t hold the flashlight right :)
Scotty, I have become a Scotty convert. You know your stuff and are not an old fashioned mechanic that rejects new technology. This is at the cutting edge of what is happening in the auto industry and you knew all of it. Well done. Thank you for what you do for the auto community. I am looking to use the 1.5 GDI engine in an experimental aircraft so this is REALLY important information. I Subed because of this video.
Love how you put a quick oil change clip in this video. It's simple, more people need to know the essentials
Simple fix. Buy older Hondas, they're fun and reliable.
Pre 2000 hondas
@@hectoure I would go that far. Civics and accords from 2012 and before are great. Even the 9th Gen si
@@MaxSpeedMike I can get behind that.
@@hectoure yeah pre 2000's in the north east are pretty much non existent bc of the rust
Stull rocking my 04 honda😂
***To clarify things for the viewers of this video.*** I love Scotty and have been watching his videos for years, but I must say, that this video is very misleading and does not tell the whole story, so much so that I feel obligated to leave a comment! The oil dilution problem is NOT a problem with ALL Honda Earth Dreams engines. The oil dilution problem so far has been related to the newer 1.5L turbo engines, mainly in the Honda CR-V and some Civic models with the 1.5T. I don't even believe this oil dilution problem has been common in the newer Accords with the 1.5L turbo. I have a 2013 Honda Accord LX, with a 2.4L Earth Dreams naturally aspirated engine, and I have NEVER had this problem, or heard of others with this problem. It has been a great engine so far. The video should be more specific to the 1.5L turbo Honda engines. I hope this helps buyers in the market for a used car to not get scared off from the non-turbo Earth Dreams naturally aspirated engine designs.
1000% spot on.
Your experience is your experience. Doesn't mean it's all-encompassing.
Totally agree, Honda has been using the "Earth Dreams" marketing logo on engines for over 10 years now. They use it on All Engines and so far the problems described by Scotty apply to the 1.5 liter turbo engine, also heard some rumors on the 2.0 turbo on the new Accord but not sure if that is just haters
@@mublikbublik7911 That is correct and I understand that. However, realize that your logic can also be applied to this video as well, as this is Scotty's experience so far. For example, there are plenty of newer CR-V owners who have not experienced this problem in their newer 1.5L turbos. The message I am trying to convey is that the video should be specific to the newer 1.5L turbo engines, as this has been a much more commonly reported issue with known Honda Service Bulletins. Consumers in the market looking for a decent and reliable used car should not be scared off on a lot of these pre-2016 Honda vehicles just because of the Earth Dreams logo on the engine cover.
It's in the 2.4 as well, read around.
I love this guy, he's so honest when talking about any car brand. Honest mechanics do really exist. Thank you Scotty !!!
If you believe any honda engine isnt superior to anything else...i have oceanfront property to sell you in North Dakota
Honest? Maybe. As knowledgeable as everyone thinks he is? Definitely not.
@@brianwiseman9518 right, I talked to two factory trained techs about this engine and they told me the only problem w it is that it never needs repair if you do your regular maintenance so is gonna put them out of work. i never had any issues with mine at all.
@@imyourhuckleberry4547 doesn't anyone have the guts to play for blood?!
@@dmmusicmusic Honda employees singing the praises of Honda engines-Who would have thought? Do a Google search on Honda’s engine problems-They are quite prevalent. Oh, and I own an ‘86 Accord but will not buy another Honda.
Love your videos!! I'm not even a car guy, but I really can appreciate your honest info about a variety of the vehicles in your videos. Thanks for what you do. I appreciate it
It's a shame that even honda with their known reliability has these problems. This is why its so difficult to buy a brand new car nowadays
Noah You answered your own dilemma. Don’t buy new cars. I’m sorry but ever since the late 2000s cars have been designed with planned obsolescence.
@@angelgjr1999 The late 2000's were great years for cars. Simpler interiors, strong N/A engines, independent suspension in the rear. The list goes on.
Correction: this is why you should NEVER buy a new car, that and the fact that once your new car has come out of the dealership it will have lost a few thousand in value. Never buy new or new models, you don't wanna be the engenieer's guinea pig.
@@jack99889988 I wouldn't touch a nineties car, too many things can go wrong. The sweet spot is car that is 5 to 10 years old max and below 100,000 kmts, manual transmision.
I know Scotty has said this before , with a new engine(car) there's always gonna be problems because these are the cars that will be the guinea pigs. Specially with the push for efficiency and making the engine use gasoline more efficiently ,companies have more of an excuse to do so (even Honda a great company )and is also the reason to not buy a new model. That being said though, there are a lot of new vehicles in the US that are trash made incorporating plastic parts so the vehicle can break on purpose.
Never have I clicked on a Scotty Kilmer video so fast in my life...
ikr and you knew ofc toyota made a better duo design lol
@@johngotone4334 yes, just screw it up with the CVT xD (is no where to run)
TheGaming727 for real!!!! Me too!!! Lol
You're an OG! Your videos are f*kin excellent.
I absolutely just love you man, you're more than a life saver to me . Again thanks
Driving it wrong? Honda took a tip from Apple. When your phone doesn't work, "You're holding it wrong".
The gorilla glass on your spyphone broke . . ya dropped it wrong
You are holding it to your wrong ear
Antenna gate. What a joke that was
🤣🤣🤣
There are some Apple sheeple melting down over that comment.
this has became my favorite channel on YT. No bullshit, no time filling or repeating 30 times the same thing, JUST PURE INFORMATION that's it. Thanks Scotty !
Ask scotty what year of engine is hes talking about. Looks to me 1 faulty engine affect the rests of the engines.
Great advice, thank you. Was looking at a 2013 Accord with the 2.4L I4 16V GDI. In the Carfax, I noticed the previous owners were usually late in changing the oil and now it has 150,000 miles. I'll check for oil dilution, if I even bother to test drive it.
I actually have another issue with these new Honda engines that I just experienced if you could do a video on it. My 3 year old Civic K20C2 battery was dead. Massive corrosion on the negative terminal indicating undercharging. Did some testing, the alternator is capable of holding 14.5V so its working fine but the computer is designed to "turn off" the alternator when its not needed to save gas. The issue this causes, clearly, is the corrosion that this creates over time will drain the battery and kill it.
Need to have the dealership officially diagnose it, but it looks like a huge design flaw to me.
You know you have a quality control problem when China refuses to sell the product! HAHAHA!
Ret
Yet they have no problem sending their garbage to other countries
@@PumaPete because cheap people like you have no problem buying it
Akhil Ghosh LMAO!! 👌 it was what my wife wanted. I drive a GMC Truck.
I think it is more about China's hatred of Japan.
Never trust engine with stupid names....
'EarthDreams' 🤣🤣
Well said!
It's really a stupid name
On an internal combustion engine, too. I guess they completely missed the irony 💀
Ecoboost. HAHA
Cause the earth dreams
How about a Cheech and Chong version:
"Nice Dreams"
You beamed me up Scotty! I appreciate your honesty.
You solved the problem immediately.
Love your new high definition camera! Wow. What great quality!
And the 1.5 turbo engine is paired with a CVT oof
Double the ticking time bombs lol
My 1.5T 2017 Civic Si Coupe is a 6 speed .All good for me...
@@MakayaGemini3 Same, i love my 17 Si and there is a recall for them now. quick computer update and the delusion problem is mitigated. What color did you get Agean blue? lol
@@MakayaGemini3 they make an Si with a 1.5 liter engine??? Lmfao slow.
@@MakayaGemini3 Woo! 5- or 6-speed Hondas are the way to go! The new Si's are really great cars! I was SO close to getting one. Ended up instead getting my current 2017 Accord V6 Coupe in the 6-speed as soon as they announced that the V6 Accord AND the coupe body style was going out. Our cars should last. :)
@@thejaredmyers I have the tafetta white. I honestly love the car. Fun times.
Haha Lets put this plastic crap back on 🤣 ur too funny Scotty. Love it!
Omg cnt stop 🤣🤣🤣
engine is beautiful by it self
Yeah.. laugh at that 5:02
5:02 (plastic crap reference)
4:04...and that is the perfect catchphrase for Earth Dreams the advertising companies don't want you to hear :)
@@ngebajak natural comedy that good deserves a reference
Very informative eye opening advice ! Thank you Sir....Respect from Germany 🇩🇪.
2 years into the future I thank you for this video Scottie. Just traded in my wife's Hyundai Sonata (yes 2021 has insane used price hike) and we were looking into Honda since Toyota refuses to update their 2019-2020 vehicles with Android Auto but I checked out Honda dilution and found your video and now I'm happier that we are sharing 1 vehicle until she can find a better car.
2020 civics are fine with the 1.5t lol
@@MWCRUSADER0508 sucks any car with turbo will have problems sooner than later Honda ruined their cars with smaller engines and turbos ... leave the regular j35y2 and 4cyl from 8th 7th gen’s
@@MWCRUSADER0508people don’t read. It was certain cars and years that had the issues and now everyone is scared of the 1.5t. These are the same people that drive a car for 20k miles and never get it inspectors or maintained 😂😂
@@spokenminds0932that’s facts. I have a 2017 civic si with the 1.5t and as long as you change the oil every 5k, you won’t have problems. I’m at 76k miles, been tuned for the last 20k miles.
FINALLY!! I have been waiting for Scotty to talk about the new Honda oil engine problems
Why? *Cuz you drive a Chevy?* 😂
@@MrPink2024 Cause that Honda engine is junk
@@OneManOnFire i'd take that junk over a chevy or a ford 1000 over
gas past the rings washes off the oil and instant ring wear. then the diluted oil mixed with gas fast bearing wear. spot on scotty
honda skipped testing phase of engine
@@accordnome7604 hyundai did the same thing about 10 years ago, same problems. Honda fell behind the tech curve at some point
So glad I saw this before buying
Greetings from the UK Scott, love your informative videos.
There’s not enough leaves under the hood! More leaves would provide better insulation and quicker warm up time.
LOL. And they wonder why they rust out in those spots, LOL.
I was going to say their triggering me Scotty but maybe their is a reason for having them.
They have to pay Scotty extra . . if they want their cars detailed , he does the job he's paid for & no more
The most complete, truthful, detailed review of this problem to date! Applause!
Thank you so much Scotty
is that a joke? because he didn't even mention what years and models were affected by this dilution problem.
I’m glad I do my oil changes myself. I have one of these engines. Man.... gonna check the oil more often.
Same here, it'll be a must.
I have used Full Synthetic 0W-20 Mobil oil religiously, and high mileage one after I hit 75k. I noticed that as I got closer to 100K, It was burning oil. I changed the PCV valve and it is much better now. I would check the oil between every gas fill-up.
@@Danielm213 Im going to change my pcv valve because im at 96k and started burning oil
I changed one of the company vehicle's oil from the 0w20 to 5w20 to avoid the ridiculous oil burning out the tailpipe. The Jeep Renegade only had 70,000 miles on the odometer. All the Renegades seem to do the same thing around that mileage. The vehicle was burning through oil about one quart a month. But it ran great and had no issues other than the oil blow by. I switched it to 5w20 and it seems to have stopped. It is approaching 90,000 and it is used by the salespeople. Now, by the time it is one quart low it is time to change the oil anyway. The 5w20 seems to be having no adverse effect on the engine at all and the company is saving money on oil. The engine is also saving wear by not operating low on oil. The salespeople are too stupid to check the oil, nor do they care to check it.
@Scotty Kilmer newbie here !!! Just bought my honda civic 2006 8th gen!! 2nd hand!!!! I will keep watching your videos.. i know for sure i will learn alot!!
Rev up your Honda Wet Dreams engine!
Thats what ya call a honda jet ski
Hahaha
how much Scotty paid by Honda for this video ????? ..... lol.....lol.....
@may day calm down man .... it's a joke .. of course Honda won't pay him for an honest video like this ...
I almost bought a CRV until this came up, especially when Honda wouldn't recall them in Texas.
I got a Rav4 instead. Don't regret it at all.
Matthew Meeks it’s only a problem is very cold weather and on short trips.
I'd get a Rogue- lease it though
@@meow8384 Why? I'd pick a Toyota or Honda over Nissan any day and leasing is a waste of money, just get something reliable and ride it till the wheels fall off.
Good man
That RAV will run til Jesus comes back. Toyota is much more reliable than Honda.
I think this is the Best video on GDI and oil dilution. 👍👍.
I like watching your videos Scotty. Thanks for all of your insight and advice. I have learned a lot from watching your channel!
Love this video, esp the advice on using very high quality 0-W20 engine oil. Keep it up Scotty.
I saw this news story the other day about a 2000 Honda accord which made it to 1 million miles and the firet thing I thought of was this channel Haha! Scotty would be proud
I admire people that can talk about cars and car repairs like this. It is one skill I wish I had. All I know is guitar! New Subscriber.
I love the inset images he uses comedically in these videos.
Comically
*sees title*
HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE ALL MIGHTY VTEC
*starts video*
Oh wait nevermind
Same here. Lol
Ye
V-Tech is a fancy word for; you don't get horsepower until 5000rpms. It's not mighty. It was never designed to race. It was designed for economy. That's why it revs like it does.
@@fusionsportdaily1650 Yeah. Lower rpms gave you lower mpg.
@@TheRealBleach they don't give me lower mpg... You want to keep your vehicle under 2K for best fuel economy.
Thanks for the video Scotty. I'm sure I'm not the only one who asked you to publish the new CRV problems.
Is this really only on the crv?
I know absolutely nothing about cars...but whenever I am looking for a new vehicle you are my go to
You tell me what the dealers won't say...I so appreciate you for that !!!
I have a "Earth Dreams" L series 2015 Honda Fit. Scotty is right when he says to change it every 5k. I change it at 5k and it's jet black with major oil dilution.
do you also use 0W-20?
Oil color has more to do with finer particulates than the filter can take out. these are usually non engine damaging. If you're worried about oil dilution, send a sample to an oil lab. They can run tests on oil dilution, present metals and/or coolant. The key with these engines is a more regular oil change. It's a small, high performance turbo engine so you have to take care of the engine and turbo that relies on engine oil as well.
No turbo on a fit, but still needs regular full synthetic oil changes
That squirrel was so cool 🤣😂
LMAO! Loved The Shining - Jack Nicholson screenshot... PERFECT timing.
We have one of these 1.5L GDI turbo Civic's in the family and you are right on the money about oil dilution happening . One simple way to mitigate some/most of it is to go up to a 5W-40 full synthetic oil ( not 10W-anything unless live in the tropics) . The High Temperature High Shear ( HTHS) value will go up to 4.0-4.2 depending on the 5W-40 brand versus 2.6 for an ILSAC GF B-6 compliant 0W-20 oil . The kinematic viscosity at 40C and 100C is essentially same for both oils and so is the cold pour point so no concern for cold start flow . The higher shear strength of 5W-40 oil will to a large degree offset the effect of fuel diluting the oil which reduces the HTHS . The main difference in the two oils is the amount and chain length of the polyisobutene ( PIB) VI modifier and HTHS is linearly proportional to the amount of PIB in the oil in the range of 5-10% by weight of the oil. Honda probably knows all this and more but perhaps can't recommend 5W-40 as a solution since that would be admitting oil dilution may be a problem. Regardless , 5K is time for new quality filter and syn oil as the T.A.N. and T.B.N. likely go out of range well before 10K change interval. Ok that's enough from a retired ,former syn oil chemist.
Which oil do you recommend for my 2021 Accord 1.5 turbo? So many videos online because of an infamous head gasket blowing issue. I started to use premium gas but feel like that isn’t enough. Which would you recommend?
No, they won't recommend 5W40 because they would rather stay safely within CAFE regulations.
That engine is having a problem with leaf collection too.
Damn..all the newer cars are junk
...and they cost a mint!
Not all, but quite a few. I'd buy a new set but my Honda won't quit😜
Get an old civic. Bobs your uncle!
Ik. It's rediculous. People want new cars when their older ones finally go out, and then they get these and they get screwed
Amen
That CRV has the 2.4, I don't believe the Chinese gov't placed a stop sale on this engine, I think it was only the CRV powered by the 1.5 turbo engine. The 2.0 Earth Dreams in the Civic is still multi-port injection.
Good call, I have 125k on my Accord 2.4 with no oil issues.
I think he was using it as a prop to talk about the newer 2017 CRV.
DKP Productions that engine will last forever. One of the best.
I love how honest he is
Good review - thanks!
New Ford's with Ecoboost also fuel dilute their oil... 😒
All the newer high pressure engines will have this problem imo. The rings can't handle that pressure. This is a design flaw and every last high pressure engine should be replaced.
Fuel dilution is only a problem on cold and short drives. If you commute then there isn’t a problem.
New generation of Ford direct injection also has a dual system with port injection. I had ‘13 eco- boost truck, never had oil dilution problem with it.
Scotty has spoken about that as well.
@@curtcramer3147 One vehicle does not prove the case.
Rev up your earth dreams. As a general rule I never buy cars with ecological gimmicks.
There's no escaping, that's in fashion now.
@@mublikbublik7911 buy old used cars, then. Plenty of late 90s cars without all the tech and ecological crap that just need you to pump gas on the tank, and still running great.
I only buy Junkers. I'm on a 500 dollar budget. unless it's a Toyota, then I may spend 800.
The earth is dreaming of all these Hondas no longer running in 6 years.
Aundray Perkins damm that’s cheap
Thank you, always well explained.
All sites I found state this oil dilution problem applies only to 1.5 liter turbocharged engines installed in 2017-2018 Honda CR-V and/or 2016-2018 Honda Civic vehicles.
"Make sure you use a high quality synthetic oil!" "I bought STP because it was on sale down the street."
Joe M 🤣😂
On sale doesnt neccesarily mean low quality...
I’ve been using Eneos or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with Purolator Synthetic filter every 5000-6000 miles for the past decade for a ‘09 Lancer and it always runs like it’s new. Never cheap out on oil.
Rick Says ¡pl
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*ALEART* ....Auto Zone won't accept used Honda motor oil because it's too Flammable ( j k )
Just tell them it's out of a Chrysler, lol.
too much gasoline diluted with the oil is an engine explosion / fire waiting to happen. wouldn't be surprised if that's the cause of the fires in some of these newer g d i engines / cars.
Tell them it's from a GM product and you're just trying to recycle the metal particles.
Thanks for explaining in detail why gas was entering that oil.
Thanks Scotty very informative video.
Thanks for sharing this video. I glad you shared this with us all.
I've spent so many hours reading about this one on the CR-V forums it's ridiculous. I'm glad I have one of the older multi port/naturally aspirated CR-Vs.
Alexandar Hull-Richter Mine says serial port it is a 2.0 engine. Am I fine? It is a Civic LX 2019 base car
@@LuisMaldunadus I would search a Honda forum, or a Civic forum for that answer. My CR-V is a 98, so the first gen / RD1 CR-V is the model I'm most knowledgeable about.
@@LuisMaldunadus That 2.0 is a K-series engine which is a well-proven engine series over 18 years with millions upon millions of miles in several displacement sizes (2.4, 2.3, 2.0). Just change the oil and filter as the manual states and you will get well over 200,000 trouble free miles guaranteed.
ctranger Cool!
ctranger The question now is.... how reliable is the CVT? As long as I take care of it I should be fine?
Scotty, you are the reason I am giving up on Nissan, opting for Honda instead, that hint about taking good care of the engine will obviously come in handy, thanks Scotty.
Loved this video Scotty. Wish I had seen it BEFORE my 2017 Honda with the 1.5L Turbo needed an engine rebuild. And the service technician told me exactly what you said it would. "Canadian winters are too cold for my car. You don't drive it far enough to get the engine warm. You have to take it on the highway a few times a week to warm it up." Of course all of this happened 5 years into ownership, so the $3500 repair bill was on me. Now I'm trading it in for a non-turbo engine..
i was so close to buy the CRV as my first car until I saw Scotty's video. Went for the RAV4's naturally aspirated engine. I don't get why grocery cars need turbos in them. screw fuel efficiency. I want long term reliability.
Holy cow! Never knew I was doing the right thing for changing my oil earlier than suggested.
I never trusted the 10-15 k mile oil's, it's always every 6k with full synthetic for me, hell even at 6k its black as can be
2014 Honda Accord LX i bought with 0 miles in 2013, its now June 2019 and 179,000 with zero issues. Changed spark plugs, air filters, and constant oil changes. Only thing ive had to replace/repair are wheel bearings, brakes, battery, and a starter(local shop repaired it for $90).
It has DGI or port injection?
DANIEL mota google it
Justin Thompson, Just read your post from a few months ago, about your 2014 Accord LX. I too watched Scotty's video about oil dilution in the direct injection engine, and was concerned. I have the same 2014 as you, but with only 40,000 miles. So far I've only changed the battery. Mine is the manual transmission, and lots of fun to drive! Thanks for reassuring me about this year, and model.
When Honda has a defect with their engines it means you'll probably only get 300k problem free miles out of it. They are second to none on their engines, can't say the reliability is the same for their auto transmissions though.
HONDA'S CVT'S are GOOD, ZF'S 9 SPEED...QUESTIONABLE.
Had a similar problem with my 2010 Accord, then they had a recall right after I got rid of it.
Accord doesn't have gdi engine
Honda Accord never had a GDI engine until the 2018 model year.
It was about time this video was made. Finally Scotty! Subbed!!!
Honda dealer tech here. We have seen no oil dilution issue with the 2.4L Earth Dreams engine like the one in the video. The 1.5 turbo is the engine effected by this issue.
Exactly... It's the turbo 1.5 earth dreams having issues. My 2018 Honda Fit Sport 1.5 earth dreams non turbo is perfectly fine. Runs great and loves higher rpms, handles amazing... Fun little car!
Makes sense much higher pressures
pringlemorgan So what do we do with the 1.5 turbo engines with this problem ? Can we get a refund or something?
This vehicle Scotty is working on is not turbo? Doesn't look to be (I reallly don't know I'm asking). Because in the video he says he smells fuel in the oil. I have a '17 Civic EX with one.
pringlemorgan... sorry to disappoint but my wife's 2015 CR-V with the 2.4L had an oil dilution issue. I watched the level climb the dipstick. Changed the oil a few times and then sent in a sample for analysis. The fuel dilution was in excess of 7% within 200 kilometers of the last oil change. We traded it in on a Toyota with D4S. No fuel dilution now.
What's the best thing for preventing oil dilution Scotty? I'm warming up my engine around 3-4 minutes and and I'm doing my oil change more often. What else should I do? Thanksssss
I will never know what Scotty knows about engines but did work as a synthetic oil chemist . May want to consider going to synthetic 5W-40 as HTHS will increase to 4.0-4.2 versus 2.6 for the 0W-20 . Cold flow will remain essentially same.
I just stumbled upon this channel and insta subscribe. Really cool stuff 👍🏼
Yes I and others have the 1.5 Turbo and have oil dilution. Honda claims it is only a few. Not true. It is just most people don't check their oil. Shame on Honda and all the journalist recommending the CRV.
I decided to not buy an Accord because of the 1.5 issues. Terrible year for Honda...
That's funny because I don't know anyone who has one that have issue. I know I didn't. But I changed my oil and put pure synthetic in it the first week I bought the accord 2018 version. Change it every 3500 miles. Not one problem.
@@mauriciowinston5293 my 2016 honda has 0 20w wich only comes synthetic..smells like gas strong..but iam gonna change evey 4.5..5k..i believe it be fine...who knows..
@@mauriciowinston5293 congratulations on your Honda Accord it's absolutely beautiful, my wife is buying a new car we cannot decide between the accord or the CR-V this oil dilution talk has me a little concerned however.
Dale Admire I bought a civic hatchback with the 1.5t several months ago and have not had any problems with oil dilution. And I have really smelled the hell out of the oil, lol. I only have 12000 miles on the car but am averaging 41mpg so I’m very happy with it so far.
Thank you Scotty. It's extremely valuable information. Much like a gift from the future! We really appreciate all you've done, and are continuing to do. God bless you!
Good stuff Scotty! Like the common sense, old school approach! of someone who doesn't mind getting into the weeds or bending a wrench. As of Oct. 2019, do the Civics with the 1.5T engine still have these problems?
Hi Scotty I watch your video all the time you’re the master of all you do great thanks for helping us I found 2011 Honda Civic dx are they reliable cars thanks
Priceless advice from a voice of EXPERIENCE.
And he says a lot wrong about saab.... totaly experience
Lol, no.
And thx for the vid Scotty I was hoping you’d hit on this at some point🤙🏼
Just bought a mint 6g 3.0 Accord. Can't wait to get it :-)
Yes, but the leaf collection system at base of windshield is working fantastically well.
PSA- Clean the leaves from the cowl panel of your vehicles. Please and thank you
Came here to say this!
Why? Just curious if there's a reason I'm unaware of personally
Joe Eisenhower - covers up drain holes which can cause water to backup into your vehicle. Various things can become damaged as a result. Should also clear trunk area as well
@@sansfreedom1629 The leaves retain moisture for longer. Which promotes rust. Also the tannins in them make the moisture acidic which promotes rust.
@@sansfreedom1629 - There's many reasons, just a few: insects and critters may be attracted to the leaves and enter the car's ducts, build nests, etc. (I recall a friend who got out of his car and saw a black widow spider who had taken up residence near his lower heater duct); accumulated leaves or debris can get moldy, said mold can spread into the ventilation ducts; and as others said, leaves or debris can clog the vents and/or crumble and accumulate inside the ducts, making it impossible to clean out.
And finally, it causes the car to look dirty and unkempt.
Excellent and easy to understand story of the "Earth Nightmare" Honda engine!
Thanks, Scotty.
I have a 2014 accord sport and been having it since day 1 out the plastic and no problems
This why i still love 8th and 9th gens over the new Si’s. Yea they’re torquer and have a fancy turbos but my fa5 going on 180k and still running strong 💪🏼
They made the K20C2 which Honda uses in Formla racing. My 10th gen has this engine. It also is port injection, not direct. It's a DOHC VTEC NA engine like Honda has always made.
Any honda with the k series engine is bulletproof
No need to get a RAV4 just get a pre refresh 2012-2014 crv that has the good ol 2.4 K series with port injection that will never give any issues
It's true. Tons of guys on the Honda and Acura forums with these problems.
Hey Scotty,
Thank for the vid, that sums up the hypocrisy of Honda pretty good!
I was wondering if you knew how to deal with the P0172 engine code (and a bunch of misfires codes) that are often linked to those engines. Weirdly enough these codes only came up once they've completed the recall to update the PCM.
I brought my car about 8 times to the dealership now and they can't seem to find why the engine is still running too rich. Weirdly enough I had none of these issues before they started to mess around with the PCM software.
I keep digging but I can't seem to find a fix for this issue.
Thanks.
So what happened?
Between this and the condensation caused by the DI and cold temps caused me weeks of grief as a Honda tech in northern Ontario. In two weeks every single earth dream motor had this issue and every one got towed to the shop the first week we hit -40
Wow.... thats why you are my favourite mechanic...❗✌🤗👌👌👌
Scotty ''the Truth speaker'' Kilmer
He is "no nonsense" which is why so many love him, including myself!!!
Praise kek.
I like Scotty as an entertaining TH-cam car personality but don't take him too seriously.
"Use high quality Mobil 1 in these engines!"
"I am going to put in some cheap bootleg STP oil because it was on sale at Autozone."
He has good intentions but actually he is not accurate. The oil dilution issue only exists with the new 1.5 ltr Turbo CRV not the CRV he is showing us in this video.
New $ bill..IN SCOTTY WE TRUST
So what year was this particular crv you were working on?? Details please
He is a real down to earth dude, fun to watch and seems to know his away around a car, good video
The pre-GDI engines had issues with the timing chains and VTC actuators so they weren't that reliable either.. also it's the 1.5 turbo that has the problem. I have a 13' Accord with the 2.4 ED engine, 150K on it and never a problem with it burning oil or oil dilution.
902AMAC I have the same car but with 236k on it but the cvt is going out and it’s going on limp mode all the time not sure what’s happening, it’s always been serviced at Honda and they don’t know what’s happening either
125k on my '16. My CVT hasn't broken yet. You?
@@ninjasinghz Woah that's a lotta miles on the CVT. It might be toast. I have 125k and i can notice a significant difference from lower mileage accords at the dealership.
No timing chain or VTC with mine if I change the oil every 6,000 miles. Engines were used since 2001 and issues crept up when people tried pushing oil changes 7500-10,000 or more.
i have an 2013 2.4 , my last accord, a 2002 went 275K miles until i replaced it and still rolling. I'm seeing alot of pessimism for these ED engines :/
Hamilton vs American Honda for the class action suit.
Thank you scotty, I'm always learning something new from you!