"Oh my 399 SpaAtk, 150 power move boosted by STAB, rain and Specs isn't strong enough" I love you Kellen, and another great video for the list as always
Timid was kind of an issue, ferrothorn, girarina, chansey, the lati twins, the "checks" would actually be able to check it if tried to run timid, so youd try to hide whether or not it was timid or modest or specs or scarf by going for the either way ohkos and hitting a check at a critical moment when its too late for the check to start recovering it off, outspeeding a giratina or another kyogre with timid, outpowering the others with modest. It shouldnt be understated that timid and modest kyogres had to be played differently
Hey Kellen, here's an idea that I've been thinking about. What about discussing how good was certain status ailments (sleep, paralysis, poison etc.) actually. Like discussing how certain status mechanics worked per generation (example being how and why Toxic wasn't used much in Gen 1, but ended up being prevalent in the generations to come), as well as viability in competitive play (like how often was it used, and which Pokemon or teams used it often) per generation. If it doesn't eat much of your time, I'd love to see the history of certain status ailments in competitive play. Of course, you'll discuss only one status ailment per video. That's all, and excellent job as always. Keep up the good work ^_^
@@linoinkyplantythingy Although I won't expect it too soon, as Kellen has another Pokemon to review for this month. Though I'd like to see this sometime in the future. Thank you, though :)
Kyogre was so good that you pretty much couldn't make a competitive team for a while without having something that counters it, or just using the big blue fish itself.
@@0rcinus_orca22 Dude, Kyogre controls the seas and can put the world in an endless flood. It's not much more powerful you can get until you get to Gen4.
Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza (even on their standard forms) are probably the strongest trio of Pokémon ever, I don't think that they needed upgraded forms but whatever, btw the designs are just amazing
Yep glad ruby was first game.i agree weather trio was most dominant .xerneas gemoncy.yvetal wing and zygarde power probaly 2nd.gira dial palk good one too
Complete FSG evaluation so far: 1. Charizard - pretty decent 2. Venusaur - consistently good 3. Unown - I don't know, who cares 4. Blastoise - very, very mediocre 5. Dragonite - incredible 6. Starmie - great 7. Snorlax - edge early on, but later dropped off 8. Gengar - phenomenal 9. Alakazam - great start, but later pushed down 10. Gyarados - pretty good 11. Chansey/Blissey - one of the best Pokemon 12. Machamp - decent 13. Arcanine - wasn't a bad Pokemon, wasn't a top threat 14. Lapras - not that good 15. Articuno - even more not that good 16. Zapdos - pretty damn good 17. Moltres - better than I expected 18. Tauros - it were rough two decades for him 19. Aerodactyl - decent 20. Nidoking - pretty good 21. Scizor - great 22. Tyranitar - was and is amazing 23. Rhydon/Rhyperior - decent, at least for a bit 24. Shuckle - bad, until maybe gen six 25. Heracross - honestly, it was pretty good 26. Smeargle - pretty good 27. Skarmory - amazing, in singles 28. Golbat/Crobat - OK 29. Slowbro - pretty good 30. Wigglytuff - outclassed 31. Porygon/Porygon2 - Porygon sucked, but Porygon2 was pretty good 32. Porygon-Z - OK 33. Seadra/Kingdra - hard to say, OK, I guess? Seadra just kinda sucked, really 34. Onix/Steelix - Onix was outclassed, Steelix started out well, but never really got anything 35. Azumarill - certainly wasn't a Pokegod, but once it got its combination, it was terryfying 36. Magneton/Magnezone - pretty good, especially after evolving 37. Sneasel/Weavile - Sneasel was pretty bad, but Weavile was pretty good 38. Poliwrath - not great 39. Espeon - hard to say, potentially one of the strongest non-uber Pokemon 40. Umbreon - pretty decent 41. Ampharos - wasn't that good 42. Cloyster - pretty damn good 43. Houndoom - a little underwhelming 44. Togetic/Togekiss - Togetic f**king sucked, but Togekiss was pretty damn good 45. Pikachu - pretty bad 46. Raichu - pretty bad 47. Breloom - pretty amazing, to be honest 48. Garchomp - in a word, amazing 49. Gardevoir - up and down 50. Gligar/Gliscor - Gligar wasn't great, but Gliscor was awesome 51. Feraligatr - it depends, kinda well, not great, but certainly not atrocious 52. Typhlosion - not great 53. Quagsire - man, I don't f**king know 54. Meganium - sucks 55. Dunsparce - sucked 56. Donphan - pretty dang average 57. Jolteon - for most of its life, really good 58. Vaporeon - pretty good 59. Flareon - sucked and still sucks 60. Metagross - incredible 61. Salamence - amazing 62. Swampert - good 63. Blaziken - probably best starter of all time... for now 64. Wobbuffet - hard to say 65. Sceptile - pretty below average 66. Clefable - dramatically shifting its whole life, nowadays strong placement 67. Tentacruel - OK, for a while 68. Jumpluff - honestly not very good, but better than you might expect 69. Exeggutor - steepest decline of all covered Pokemon 70. Mewtwo - you're kidding, right? 71. Mew - really good 72. Lucario - really strong 73. Kangaskhan - OK 74. Flygon - never face of the tier, but always important and defining 75. Milotic - proud representative of its kind 76. Dugtrio - once it gain Arena Trap, it become the force 77. Suicune - as good as it is regal 78. Raikou - pretty good 79. Entei - not that good 80. Marowak - had a bone or two to pick 81. Ninetales - not very good at all 82. Gallade - pretty decent 83. Tangela/Tangrowth - among the most forgettable Pokemon, but once it evolved, it become the damn important pick 84. Electabuzz/Electivire - for the most part, quite bad 85. Magmar/Magmortar - not good, like, ever 86. Misdreavus/Mismagius - OK 87. Pidgeot - bland, until mega made it viable 88. Persian - sucked after first generation 89. Roselia/Roserade - pre-evo wasn't great, Roserade was 90. Weezing - always decent, at least in the lower tiers 91. Ledian - one of the worst Pokemon of all time 92. Muk - pretty alright 93. Delibird - one of the worst competitive Pokemon in history 94. Piloswine/Mamoswine - Piloswine was underrated, but since it evolved, it become the wrecking ball 95. Froslass - definition of a specialised Pokemon 96. Beedrill - until it got mega, one of the worst Pokemon, but after, one of the most important in UU 97. Celebi - great, great Pokemon 98. Aggron - pretty much on the below average side 99. Lugia - every bit as good and some as in other media 100. Infernape - overall, pretty good 101. Sandslash - went from being decent to despondent 102. Empoleon - pretty great 103. Ho-Oh - pretty good 104. Mawile - for its first three generations, seriously awful, but then become one of the biggest threats around 105. Torterra - wasn't fantastic 106. Golem - not all Pokemon can be amazing, and it is a prime example 107. Shedinja - honestly pretty terrible 108. Rayquaza - only superlatives describe how powerful it was 109. Ditto - may not be the best in the older games 110. Scyther - in the grand scheme of things, awful 111. Staraptor - one of the best non-OU Pokemon of all time 112. Lopunny - quite decent 113. Ludicolo - wherever best aplicable has made its trainers jubilant 114. Slowking - wasn’t a superstar, but was a solid overall Pokemon, and it deserves some pants 115. Nidoqueen - her reign has been fruitful 116. Pinsir - functioning quality, then launched into successful territory 117. Murkrow/Honchkrow - the Sopranos of Pokemon weren’t great, but they had their place 118. Claydol - victim of power creep 119. Groudon - amazing and then some 120. Kyogre - every bit as amazing as its legendary status would suggest and then some
I believe the veredict for scyther was that it wasn't that good and that it was still solid in PU, what isn't saying much, but not an aweful result for a not fully evolved pokemon
who would win: an entire tier of all of pokemon's fiercest opponents too strong for even the most competitive tier of overused threats or one fishy boi
This legendary trio really made an immense impact on the meta game. Every single one of them changed the meta in their own way. Especially with the primal forms.
The ... type probably wasn't all that great. It had only one attack to its name, and no pokémon that bore it, making it pretty situational, if you ask me. I wonder if he'll ever say how good the Bird type was actually. I've heard it was crazy good. Like, literally game-breaking.
I thought that you would at least mention that Shedinja is the best Kyogre counter in existence and our old friend Quagsire checks it like no other. But it's ok since you told us about that in their respective videos. Thanks Kellen for the effort!!!
I absolutely love how Pokémon has managed to keep the legendary weather trio of Gen 3 relevant in the meta for so long. Such iconic legendaries, and definitely my favorite!
My all-time favorite legendary. Mascot of my first Pokémon game, which is also my birthstone and favorite color. Kyogre will always be top-tier in my heart
It's kinda sad that our old friend Quagsire isn't mentioned in the video, which was one of, if not, the best Kyogre check in Gens 3 and 4. Amazing video overall Kellen, like always.
252+ SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 192 SpD Quagsire: 140-165 (35.5 - 41.8%) -- 86.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery That’s why. Ice Beam still hurts and Specs Ice Beam is worse.
mega mewtwo:people do not recongise my power therefor i was locked in ubers while green snake got into ag and i shall release my wrath on you! coughs then uses psystrike to abliverate kyogre
Kyogre always reminds me of that conspiracy about the noise in the sea louder than anything ever recorded, the Bloop. I could just picture a gigantic Kyogre-like creature being the cause of it.
@Airock the Great when I learned that most pokemon are small I got so sad. I envisioned kyogre and it's legendary counterparts to be huge for the most part. I'm taller than most pokemon :/
you are if you aren't carrying Multiscale, Toxic, Whirlwind, Dragon Tail, Roost, Careful Nature and 252 Sp. Defense EVs. otherwise the joke is on Kyogre.
I don't play competitive Pokemon, but I find these videos fascinating and have been binge watching them. Some really neat information and I've learned more about certain Pokemon and what they can and cannot do well. Great content.
I would like to hear Kellen weigh in on the on the the galar dex only drama and possibly adress if effects it may have on the metagame, like creating power vaccums or creating uncounterd holes in the game.
honestly i think primordial sea and desolate land should both be in effect, but only strengthen the water and fire moves instead of making them fizzle. you know, because when groudon and kyogre were both awake in emerald the sky would rapidly change between heavy rain and intense sunlight
Gen 3: Groudon lures in Kyogre and hits it with a powerful earthquake. Gen 6: Primal Kyogre lures in Primal Groudon and hits it with a powerful earthquake Groudon: You dare use my own spells against me, Potter?
Kyogre is still my favourite of the 3, don't get me wrong I love Groudon and Rayquaza but in terms of design, I just think Kyogre is the best 1. Hell, I actually played through Pokemon Ruby before Pokemon Sapphire just because I wanted to save the best for last.
During the segment talking about Kyogre in VGC 2010, it was mentioned that Hitmontop used Wide Guard to support Kyogre, but the move Wide Guard wasn't introduced until Generation 5. It's by no means a big deal, just wanted to point it out!
Ok that has to be a joke its ability causes rain increasing power it gets calm mind to increase special attack and special defense its signature move is 150 base power and is stab plus choice specs
Sapphire was my very first Pokemon game and I loved playing through it. And to this day Kyogre is my favorite legendary and with him and swampert, they are the reason water is my favorite type
Imagine What if Pokémon Company increases Primal Kyogre Defence to 150 instead of Attack and given him electric type too and Primal Groudon's Sp.def insted of sp.attack
How good was Reuniclus ‘Man who brought a shotgun to a bar fight’ actually? Cmon dude. It’s the first gen 5 Pokemon u may review. Make my dream come true
How GOOD was Kyogre's larger in size yet, less impressive mammalian cousin Wailord ACTUALLY? Does size matter if you're legendary? I love Pokemon Sapphire, by the way. Some of the most fun I've had as a child.^_^
Well, with size comes power. When you see Manaphy you don't see a city destroyer, you see a cute littlr Pokemon. Now Kyogre will flood the world becsuse he owns the sea lol
When I played Pokemon Battle Revolution online way back when, I got a Giratina, made it super specially defensive and taught it Thunder just to counter all the Kyogres people had.
Tbh I love using scarf Kyogre instead of Primal in Uber’s along with Jolly scarf Marshadow. Kyogre kills with Scarf Water Spout and Jolly Scarf Marshadow outspeeds Modest Xerneas with a Geomancy and can Spectral thief it
what i think is the most interessting thing are the Teams he mentioned in Gen 4. I bet this is nothing new for people who know much about Gen 4 VGC but the teams didnt decide between rain or sun but just did both and decided which one would be better in which situation. This is so mindblowing for me XD
My favourite of the weather trio is Rayquaza and the other two are tied, I can't decide. But it's obvious which of the three has been more relevant throughout the generations. Kyogre was Mega-Ray before it even existed.
"Oh my 399 SpaAtk, 150 power move boosted by STAB, rain and Specs isn't strong enough" I love you Kellen, and another great video for the list as always
You right. Gotta throw in a Helping Hand too-
Give it water bubble too.
Timid was kind of an issue, ferrothorn, girarina, chansey, the lati twins, the "checks" would actually be able to check it if tried to run timid, so youd try to hide whether or not it was timid or modest or specs or scarf by going for the either way ohkos and hitting a check at a critical moment when its too late for the check to start recovering it off, outspeeding a giratina or another kyogre with timid, outpowering the others with modest.
It shouldnt be understated that timid and modest kyogres had to be played differently
@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 That would lesser the Power unless rain is already active.
Far Rightist Only one? You’re going to need 3 at least.
the gen 4 footage is just a compilation of Kyogre nuking everything with water spout xD
That pretty much sums Gen 4 Ubers
@@tesorosdetinkertown8310 exactly
Reminds me of the Final Battle with the Magician with a Kyogre which was a pain in the ass to beat.
That's becaus it's one of it's biggest niches.
The water park era.
4:27 Me when my 399 special attack, 150 base power move boosted by stab, rain, and choice specs just isn’t strong enough.
Don't forget stealth rocks cutting into your power
Don't you just hate when that happens?
It wasent enough cuz arceus told you to sit the eff down and die. #Extremespeedlife
Legit, I always run Modest 😎
Jeez.... :'v
Hey Kellen, here's an idea that I've been thinking about. What about discussing how good was certain status ailments (sleep, paralysis, poison etc.) actually. Like discussing how certain status mechanics worked per generation (example being how and why Toxic wasn't used much in Gen 1, but ended up being prevalent in the generations to come), as well as viability in competitive play (like how often was it used, and which Pokemon or teams used it often) per generation. If it doesn't eat much of your time, I'd love to see the history of certain status ailments in competitive play. Of course, you'll discuss only one status ailment per video.
That's all, and excellent job as always. Keep up the good work ^_^
Great idea!
I'd post this to the community post too for better visibility.
yes yes yes yes :D
Good idea!
Sounds really interesting!
@@linoinkyplantythingy Although I won't expect it too soon, as Kellen has another Pokemon to review for this month. Though I'd like to see this sometime in the future.
Thank you, though :)
Terrible idea.
Kyogre was so good that you pretty much couldn't make a competitive team for a while without having something that counters it, or just using the big blue fish itself.
something that "counters" it, oh boy.
Doesn’t get ohkod is probably the correct term.
oh god oh no it happening again rn help oh god oh no
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HE'S A WHALE YOU FOOL!!!!!
Ferrothorn is such a recurring character in this show it deserves its own spinoff
Now I’m just imagining a competitive Pokémon sitcom. WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH KYOGRE BEING UNCOUNTERABLE?
@@harb1ng3r82 LOL then Groudon says I just don’t know
@@harb1ng3r82 Zekrom's bolt strike is the best counter to Kyogre. It can switch in to it's water STAB moves and fry.
And it’s own spinoff it did get
And now it has one.
Well it’s more like the main show now
When in doubt,
Choice scarf water spout kyogre it out
Came here looking for this hahah
TM*
you are a mam of culture op
Boi u should have added who made that quote which is thegarbodor u are plagarizing
@@impulse1228 I forgot sorry :(
Kyogre is dummy thicc tho
😫👌👋🐋💦💦💦💦
He is
@@Crinjal_2611 Kyogre is a dolphin Pokémon
is there anyone thiccer than kyorge?
NOOX TACO?!?!?!?
Me: How GOOD was Kyogre ACTUALLY ?
False Swipe Gaming: *YES*
You haven't even watched the video yet...
LubbaForLife You don't really have to watch the video to know if Kyogre is great or not..
@@0rcinus_orca22 Dude, Kyogre controls the seas and can put the world in an endless flood. It's not much more powerful you can get until you get to Gen4.
Yeah, that and Specs Kyogre in Ubers.
I don’t wanna change the likes because this comment has 399 likes and that’s to perfect.
Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza (even on their standard forms) are probably the strongest trio of Pokémon ever, I don't think that they needed upgraded forms but whatever, btw the designs are just amazing
with their forms weather trio competitively are the strongest pokemon in the entire pokedex with things like xerneas being close
Yep glad ruby was first game.i agree weather trio was most dominant .xerneas gemoncy.yvetal wing and zygarde power probaly 2nd.gira dial palk good one too
This shows even in competitive, Groudon and Kyogre are both fighting for their respective weather. Just like anywhere else.
finally a person who understands me
Weather trio > Life trio > Zacian crowned and Calyrex Shadow from Galar.
Kyogre, upon not being in Sword and Shield: “My son... I can no longer destroy in the rain like I could... continue on in my stead.”
Dracovish: *nom*
Kyogre-primal will clash with groudon-primal once again!
meghanaingleshwar not yet. That's the thing
@@meghanaingleshwar we dont know if primals are coming back or not. Hopefully it does alongside megas
@Nagaje Touilfand trick room fixes that my friend
@Nagaje Touilfand I'd rather get Heatran back first to be honest
Complete FSG evaluation so far:
1. Charizard - pretty decent
2. Venusaur - consistently good
3. Unown - I don't know, who cares
4. Blastoise - very, very mediocre
5. Dragonite - incredible
6. Starmie - great
7. Snorlax - edge early on, but later dropped off
8. Gengar - phenomenal
9. Alakazam - great start, but later pushed down
10. Gyarados - pretty good
11. Chansey/Blissey - one of the best Pokemon
12. Machamp - decent
13. Arcanine - wasn't a bad Pokemon, wasn't a top threat
14. Lapras - not that good
15. Articuno - even more not that good
16. Zapdos - pretty damn good
17. Moltres - better than I expected
18. Tauros - it were rough two decades for him
19. Aerodactyl - decent
20. Nidoking - pretty good
21. Scizor - great
22. Tyranitar - was and is amazing
23. Rhydon/Rhyperior - decent, at least for a bit
24. Shuckle - bad, until maybe gen six
25. Heracross - honestly, it was pretty good
26. Smeargle - pretty good
27. Skarmory - amazing, in singles
28. Golbat/Crobat - OK
29. Slowbro - pretty good
30. Wigglytuff - outclassed
31. Porygon/Porygon2 - Porygon sucked, but Porygon2 was pretty good
32. Porygon-Z - OK
33. Seadra/Kingdra - hard to say, OK, I guess? Seadra just kinda sucked, really
34. Onix/Steelix - Onix was outclassed, Steelix started out well, but never really got anything
35. Azumarill - certainly wasn't a Pokegod, but once it got its combination, it was terryfying
36. Magneton/Magnezone - pretty good, especially after evolving
37. Sneasel/Weavile - Sneasel was pretty bad, but Weavile was pretty good
38. Poliwrath - not great
39. Espeon - hard to say, potentially one of the strongest non-uber Pokemon
40. Umbreon - pretty decent
41. Ampharos - wasn't that good
42. Cloyster - pretty damn good
43. Houndoom - a little underwhelming
44. Togetic/Togekiss - Togetic f**king sucked, but Togekiss was pretty damn good
45. Pikachu - pretty bad
46. Raichu - pretty bad
47. Breloom - pretty amazing, to be honest
48. Garchomp - in a word, amazing
49. Gardevoir - up and down
50. Gligar/Gliscor - Gligar wasn't great, but Gliscor was awesome
51. Feraligatr - it depends, kinda well, not great, but certainly not atrocious
52. Typhlosion - not great
53. Quagsire - man, I don't f**king know
54. Meganium - sucks
55. Dunsparce - sucked
56. Donphan - pretty dang average
57. Jolteon - for most of its life, really good
58. Vaporeon - pretty good
59. Flareon - sucked and still sucks
60. Metagross - incredible
61. Salamence - amazing
62. Swampert - good
63. Blaziken - probably best starter of all time... for now
64. Wobbuffet - hard to say
65. Sceptile - pretty below average
66. Clefable - dramatically shifting its whole life, nowadays strong placement
67. Tentacruel - OK, for a while
68. Jumpluff - honestly not very good, but better than you might expect
69. Exeggutor - steepest decline of all covered Pokemon
70. Mewtwo - you're kidding, right?
71. Mew - really good
72. Lucario - really strong
73. Kangaskhan - OK
74. Flygon - never face of the tier, but always important and defining
75. Milotic - proud representative of its kind
76. Dugtrio - once it gain Arena Trap, it become the force
77. Suicune - as good as it is regal
78. Raikou - pretty good
79. Entei - not that good
80. Marowak - had a bone or two to pick
81. Ninetales - not very good at all
82. Gallade - pretty decent
83. Tangela/Tangrowth - among the most forgettable Pokemon, but once it evolved, it become the damn important pick
84. Electabuzz/Electivire - for the most part, quite bad
85. Magmar/Magmortar - not good, like, ever
86. Misdreavus/Mismagius - OK
87. Pidgeot - bland, until mega made it viable
88. Persian - sucked after first generation
89. Roselia/Roserade - pre-evo wasn't great, Roserade was
90. Weezing - always decent, at least in the lower tiers
91. Ledian - one of the worst Pokemon of all time
92. Muk - pretty alright
93. Delibird - one of the worst competitive Pokemon in history
94. Piloswine/Mamoswine - Piloswine was underrated, but since it evolved, it become the wrecking ball
95. Froslass - definition of a specialised Pokemon
96. Beedrill - until it got mega, one of the worst Pokemon, but after, one of the most important in UU
97. Celebi - great, great Pokemon
98. Aggron - pretty much on the below average side
99. Lugia - every bit as good and some as in other media
100. Infernape - overall, pretty good
101. Sandslash - went from being decent to despondent
102. Empoleon - pretty great
103. Ho-Oh - pretty good
104. Mawile - for its first three generations, seriously awful, but then become one of the biggest threats around
105. Torterra - wasn't fantastic
106. Golem - not all Pokemon can be amazing, and it is a prime example
107. Shedinja - honestly pretty terrible
108. Rayquaza - only superlatives describe how powerful it was
109. Ditto - may not be the best in the older games
110. Scyther - in the grand scheme of things, awful
111. Staraptor - one of the best non-OU Pokemon of all time
112. Lopunny - quite decent
113. Ludicolo - wherever best aplicable has made its trainers jubilant
114. Slowking - wasn’t a superstar, but was a solid overall Pokemon, and it deserves some pants
115. Nidoqueen - her reign has been fruitful
116. Pinsir - functioning quality, then launched into successful territory
117. Murkrow/Honchkrow - the Sopranos of Pokemon weren’t great, but they had their place
118. Claydol - victim of power creep
119. Groudon - amazing and then some
120. Kyogre - every bit as amazing as its legendary status would suggest
and then some
Nice
Nice! I liked for your work!👌👍
What a mad lad
Keep coping and pasting this comment throughout the next videos so we can deliver when the last of all Pokémon is done (although it'll take a while)
I believe the veredict for scyther was that it wasn't that good and that it was still solid in PU, what isn't saying much, but not an aweful result for a not fully evolved pokemon
RIP primals 2014-2019
GregorianLad 134 they are getting rid of megas, so it’s probable. That is, if the weather trio even gets to make it into the Galar Pokédex.
Sword and Shield's cutting out Megas, Primals, and Z-moves.
F dynamax
@@Squishyboyseth yeah, because you couldn't go to the appropriate tiers to play with your ideal meta.
Gengarzilla Those were kind of dumb anyway, except Megas for otherwise bad Pokémon.
No Wailord? Oh whale...
B r u h macro
Macro?? Didnt expect to see you here
Macro
*snaps*eyy
Are you that apex guy
@@matthewreeves273 not that Apex guy. THE apex guy
Kyogre is the best of the best
Awesome design, great stats, it's a beautiful orca boy
It's my favourite legendary!!
@@Seajojo my favorite as well
my favorite legendary is regigigas... just because of the sounds it makes in Hoopa & The Clash of ages.
and also the design is great
woah dude
It is my favorite Pokémon. But competitively...
Yeah.
That smile though
who would win:
an entire tier of all of pokemon's fiercest opponents too strong for even the most competitive tier of overused threats
or
one fishy boi
you know the answer my man, it‘s your boi.
Isn't it technically one whaly boi
Not counting z-moves, Pikachu would probably actually find a niche in such a hypothetical metagame as the Kyogre killer.
Whales are not fish.
one fishy boi
This legendary trio really made an immense impact on the meta game.
Every single one of them changed the meta in their own way.
Especially with the primal forms.
Or mega
Nobody:
Kyogre: I'm about to make it rain on this man's whole carreer
ZeroPatience
Kyogre to the entire Hoenn region
😂😂😂😂
I’m about to drown this man’s whole career
😭😭😭😭😭😭
He made it rain, then cleared it out.
😂😂😂😂
Me when I found out that Kyogre can learn thunder: “Cowabunga it is.”
Thus closes out the most dominant mascot trio of Pokémon in the series. DonRayOgre is the best.
2:47 damn deoxys got the whole bakery
Alternate title: HOW OP WAS KYOGRES WATER SPOUT ACTUALLY?
kyogres water spout can fire in spurts
Will another "How good was the ... type actually" ever happen?
I want to see the fighting type
I want to see the steel type
@D2o40 Akz gen V dragon was stronger IMO
The ... type probably wasn't all that great. It had only one attack to its name, and no pokémon that bore it, making it pretty situational, if you ask me.
I wonder if he'll ever say how good the Bird type was actually. I've heard it was crazy good. Like, literally game-breaking.
@@jaschabull2365 heh, I liked that joke
0:48 "In Pokemon XD: The Ludicolo Chronicles Volume Two-- I, I mean Gale of Darkness."
lmao
Is that a reference to something? It was funny af
@@kingthorgrim1591 Mirror B
Them: use skill swap to restart rain
Me: use skillswap to get Mega Launcher for Origin Pulse.
O_o
*entrainment
*The damage though!*
@@GamerGhostRider its like spec boosted 180 special attack rain boosted attack
Jesus.
Kyogre has great stats everywhere and summons rain. It could never be anything but extremely powerful.
I thought that you would at least mention that Shedinja is the best Kyogre counter in existence and our old friend Quagsire checks it like no other. But it's ok since you told us about that in their respective videos. Thanks Kellen for the effort!!!
wouldn't Ice Beam screw over Shedinja? I think Bug is weak to Ice.
Gastrodon since BW is a better counter than Quagsire
Best way for primal Kyogre to counter Shedinja
RUN Hp FIRE :)
@@rossthemoss6827 the move will fizzle out since it's ability negates fire attacks. I've seen toxic Kyogre so it's not totally impossible to counter l
@@uriellopez6529 thats only primal kyogre
I absolutely love how Pokémon has managed to keep the legendary weather trio of Gen 3 relevant in the meta for so long. Such iconic legendaries, and definitely my favorite!
Kyogre's old cry was the absolute best before it was changed.
Metagross has a similar fate
Rex4Smash Reshiram is the worst imo
Meh, I prefer the new one
primal cry is badass
My all-time favorite legendary. Mascot of my first Pokémon game, which is also my birthstone and favorite color. Kyogre will always be top-tier in my heart
Me too, all my friends were on Groudon bandwagon while I stick with Kyogre.
Me too. Kyogre has been my all time favorite legendary until now. I just really love this seas basin monster.
Me too
When you think you're having a freindly match against your friend but he has both Primals and Mega Reiquaza on his team
Maybe it’s just that Kyogre was my first legendary Pokémon, but he’s still one of my top favorites. Gen 3 legendaries were so badass.
It's kinda sad that our old friend Quagsire isn't mentioned in the video, which was one of, if not, the best Kyogre check in Gens 3 and 4.
Amazing video overall Kellen, like always.
252+ SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 192 SpD Quagsire: 140-165 (35.5 - 41.8%) -- 86.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
That’s why. Ice Beam still hurts and Specs Ice Beam is worse.
@@bryanc1772three hit KO is kind of irrelevant to a pokémon that knows recover and toxic
@@coletonbelcher in gen 4 yes but Gen 3 Quagsire doesn’t learn recover
Kyogre is my baby. Being the first legendary I ever caught since sapphire was the first Pokémon game I ever completed. This Pokémon is very dear to me
❤
Kyogre: “you cant defeat me.”
Groudon: “i know. But he can.”
Primal Groudon: “TREMBLE BEFORE ME, UBERS. I AM YOUR RECKONING.”
Skill Swap Bronzong: Get out of my ubers you fire ground twit
Kyogre: My Friend is strong too
Mega rayquaza at AG tier: amateurs
Golduck with cloud nine : 😗
mega mewtwo:people do not recongise my power therefor i was locked in ubers while green snake got into ag and i shall release my wrath on you! coughs then uses psystrike to abliverate kyogre
*gains 4x water weakness*
Tapu Koko boosting Kyogre's Thunder Wave. OOF. Thats a new one 🤣
I didn't know Twave does damage xD
@@gabinlanglais602 it makes me break my wall so not in game but I can assure you it definitely hurts
@@cooperm4185I trust you xD
@@cooperm4185 the real wall-breaker
I always keep hearing about the Lati twins but no videos on them? Come on bro
That may be why there are no videos so far, the Lati twins are just really good, and covering them would take a really long time.
I can imagine they were both way to OP for ADV and DPP
Ok have fun with that
@person person
Yea I watched it bro
Kyogre always reminds me of that conspiracy about the noise in the sea louder than anything ever recorded, the Bloop. I could just picture a gigantic Kyogre-like creature being the cause of it.
Satanael_CTGO
💀💀💀
@Airock the Great when I learned that most pokemon are small I got so sad. I envisioned kyogre and it's legendary counterparts to be huge for the most part. I'm taller than most pokemon :/
BLOOP?
EresirThe1st An ice shelf crashing is much quieter than the recorded Bloop. It’s still unknown what it truly was. The ice was a theory.
@@mirewalker Except the scientific consensus is that it was an ice quake
Kyogre: *exists*
Lugia: Am I joke to you?
you are if you aren't carrying Multiscale, Toxic, Whirlwind, Dragon Tail, Roost, Careful Nature and 252 Sp. Defense EVs. otherwise the joke is on Kyogre.
Wait dragon tail and whirlwind
Mockshock for taunt
That glow Kyogre's model had in Battle Revolution looked so rad.
Kyogre in Gen 4 be like:
"I fear no mon, but that thing...
*insert image of Parasect here*
_...it scares me."_
Ice Beam
@@PaulJeffries56.
Not if Parasect swaps to an Ice resistant Pokémon
Shedinja
I don't play competitive Pokemon, but I find these videos fascinating and have been binge watching them. Some really neat information and I've learned more about certain Pokemon and what they can and cannot do well. Great content.
I would like to hear Kellen weigh in on the on the the galar dex only drama and possibly adress if effects it may have on the metagame, like creating power vaccums or creating uncounterd holes in the game.
And this is why I picked pokemon (alpha)sapphire
Primal Kyogre is ass compared to Primal Groudon
@@lastofall3555 but Kyogre can be good without being primal
xyzzy51273 Normal Groudon and Primal Groudon are both Uber
honestly i think primordial sea and desolate land should both be in effect, but only strengthen the water and fire moves instead of making them fizzle.
you know, because when groudon and kyogre were both awake in emerald the sky would rapidly change between heavy rain and intense sunlight
I’ve been waaay to addicted to watching these vids to the point my whole recommended is just these vids
Short answer: It is Leviathan.
Long answer: video above.
0:57 this has to be the single most badass frame in this video
Yup, the Weather Trio were, is and will continue to be *Top Tier*
Gen 3: Groudon lures in Kyogre and hits it with a powerful earthquake.
Gen 6: Primal Kyogre lures in Primal Groudon and hits it with a powerful earthquake
Groudon: You dare use my own spells against me, Potter?
Kyogre is still my favourite of the 3, don't get me wrong I love Groudon and Rayquaza but in terms of design, I just think Kyogre is the best 1.
Hell, I actually played through Pokemon Ruby before Pokemon Sapphire just because I wanted to save the best for last.
Referring to XD as the Ludicolo Chronicles Vol. 2 might be the best joke in this entire channel's history
Kyogre: No one can beat me
Quagsire: Hold my beer
Parasect, Toxicroak, and Gastrodon: Allow us to introduce ourselves
252+ SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 192 SpD Quagsire: 140-165 (35.5 - 41.8%) -- 86.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Sure I can’t
when your 399 special attack, 150 base power move boosted by stab, rain, only has 101.9% to OHKO...😭
Sad days
And now, with Megas (and presumably Primals) wiped from Gen 8, Kyogre will be back on top of Kyogre v Groudon.
...Assuming that it's even in the game.
Making a looooot of assumptions there friend...
Yeah I was pissed when they said that not all Pokemon is transferrable.
@@webbowser8834 I've made two. Perhaps our definitions of "a lot" are different.
I swear to god if they remove primal forms
@@deltaflash7889 they are removed
Kyogre: I'm super effective against you
Groudon: I have stab Earthquake and resist stealth rock
Kyogre: F***
FSG: Always respect choice specs kyogre
Me: You should also respect parasect
>the ludicolo chronicles 2
>probably still has a bigger pkmn pool than sword/shield
> :(
He may be OP but boy does someone have to keep waking me up since Kyogre keeps fighting Groudon
This episode being 19 minutes feels like a mercy.
Kyogre and Groudon could likely have hour long episodes each.
During the segment talking about Kyogre in VGC 2010, it was mentioned that Hitmontop used Wide Guard to support Kyogre, but the move Wide Guard wasn't introduced until Generation 5. It's by no means a big deal, just wanted to point it out!
One of my 3 favorite legendaries of all time.
1. Mewtwo
2. Kyogre
3. Girratina.
Kyogre and Giratina are my favourite legendaries too
Mine are:
1. Rayquaza
2. Mewtwo
3. Kyogre
mewtwo is also my favourite not just legendary but it also my favourite pokemon
Kyogre: You can't defeat me!
Garchomp: I know, but he can.
*Parasect bursts out of the mountain*
Ice beam and parasect does nothing else outside of the ogre
This was amazing, it feels good to wake up on Sunday and watch a video of your all time favorite Pokémon.
I remember back in "the day", the good old mewtwo vs kyogre debate....
So how do u get to these championships? What do you have to do/start with? Rating battles?
I had no idea Kyorgre was so OP. Please make a “How good was Dialga” video!!!
Ok that has to be a joke its ability causes rain increasing power it gets calm mind to increase special attack and special defense its signature move is 150 base power and is stab plus choice specs
@@devilishyouth316 ok
Utility umbrella max hp/spdef careful blissey is like the only thing that takes 2 modest specs water spouts
Sapphire was my very first Pokemon game and I loved playing through it. And to this day Kyogre is my favorite legendary and with him and swampert, they are the reason water is my favorite type
How good was Deoxys ACTUALLY?
this makes me nostalgic, I want a Pokémon battle revolution style game on switch man
Primal Kyogre's theme was arguably the best of Alpha Sapphire's ost.
have to agree between out the primals themes i do prefer kyogres
I always like your videos before even going through them.
I just know it's gonna be awesome. :D
My favourite Gen III Water Type Pokémon? My Sunday Yays have been doubled!
Thanks for yet another *awesome* vid False Swipe 💙=^_^=💙
Imagine What if Pokémon Company increases Primal Kyogre Defence to 150 instead of Attack and given him electric type too and Primal Groudon's Sp.def insted of sp.attack
Who will win?
-A water god in the shape of a whale that can decimate entire lands just by existing
or
-Your math homework
Kyogre destroys all Pokemon for one reason:
*IT'S SMILE*
How good was Reuniclus ‘Man who brought a shotgun to a bar fight’ actually?
Cmon dude. It’s the first gen 5 Pokemon u may review. Make my dream come true
These comments should go on the occasional community post or Patreon. They won't be listened to here anymore.
The best pokemon channel because its one of the most original in its presentation of its unique content
Never get tired of these. I wasn't a fan of gen 3, but I seen kyogre and groundon to know I hated battling against them.
How GOOD was Kyogre's larger in size yet, less impressive mammalian cousin Wailord ACTUALLY?
Does size matter if you're legendary?
I love Pokemon Sapphire, by the way. Some of the most fun I've had as a child.^_^
Well, with size comes power. When you see Manaphy you don't see a city destroyer, you see a cute littlr Pokemon. Now Kyogre will flood the world becsuse he owns the sea lol
Well, it certainly is weaker to grass knot
0:47 I should not be laughing this hard at this.
Imagine if they gave Kyogre Earth Power to help it keep up with Groudon
The first Pokémon game I played was Pokémon Ruby and since then Groudon has been my all time favorite legendary.
How CUTE was Kyogre's smile ACTUALLY?
When I played Pokemon Battle Revolution online way back when, I got a Giratina, made it super specially defensive and taught it Thunder just to counter all the Kyogres people had.
My favorite Pokemon!!!! Love you guys!!
"Oh my 399 SpaAtk, 150 power move boosted by STAB, rain and Specs isn't strong enough"
_Laughs in gen 8 stats_
This big blue machine of destruction is my favourite Pokémon for a good reason now that I know this
Choice Scarf Water Spout Kyogre is still competitively viable
Can destroy whole teams
How so with Primal Groudon being on every Ubers team?
@@beta511ee4 gen 8 would like a word with you
Tbh I love using scarf Kyogre instead of Primal in Uber’s along with Jolly scarf Marshadow. Kyogre kills with Scarf Water Spout and Jolly Scarf Marshadow outspeeds Modest Xerneas with a Geomancy and can Spectral thief it
Scarf Kyogre is so good. I use it with Mega Swampert to take advantage of rain. It made a lot of people ragequit
It is. Outspeeds so much and can hit hard with Water Spout
@@mr.krustykrust How so with Primal Groudon on pretty much every team?
These videos always brighten up my Sundays
Kyogre:I am the all powerful
Ferrothorn:exists
Kyogre:AaAAAAaAaAaAAaaaaAAAHHhHhHHHhHH
Shedinja: exists
Kyogre: REEEEEEEEEEE
Light Screen Latias
how much VOLUME of the WATER SPOUT that KYOGRE throws?
what i think is the most interessting thing are the Teams he mentioned in Gen 4. I bet this is nothing new for people who know much about Gen 4 VGC but the teams didnt decide between rain or sun but just did both and decided which one would be better in which situation. This is so mindblowing for me XD
How good was Mr. Mime Actually?!
Seriously, that would just be an interesting video.
I always run Scarf + Water Spout Kyogre in Gen 8 AG and it's fun to see Zacian and Calyrex's Shadow form just *perish*
How GOOD Was Giratina ACTUALLY?
My favourite of the weather trio is Rayquaza and the other two are tied, I can't decide. But it's obvious which of the three has been more relevant throughout the generations. Kyogre was Mega-Ray before it even existed.
Imagine Fishous Rend on this thing
Kyogre is a special attacker. It’s physical attack is still a good 100 tho