How GOOD was Groudon ACTUALLY? - History of Groudon in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-7)

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  • Groudon is this week’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Groudon in competitive Pokemon!
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:27 - ADV/Gen 3
    3:49 - DPP/Gen 4
    7:16 - Gen 4 VGC
    8:22 - BW/Gen 5
    10:28 - XY/Gen 6
    12:40 - Gen 6 VGC
    16:12 - SM/Gen 7
    17:34 - VGC Gen 7
    19:49 - Outro
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    Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
    To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
    To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
    For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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  • @ironman-uc7ek
    @ironman-uc7ek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2844

    Groudon: The king of the ground
    Primal groundon: Ground is its only weakness...

    • @Salnax
      @Salnax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +259

      IronicPalpatine.jpeg

    • @gnammyhamster9554
      @gnammyhamster9554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +277

      Except for goulduck's hydro pump

    • @bohanxu6125
      @bohanxu6125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      "the king of the ground?" mixed primal ogre: "hold my bear"

    • @shiennohajime1495
      @shiennohajime1495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@bohanxu6125 *beer

    • @catherinestickels2591
      @catherinestickels2591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      I used the groudon to destroy the groudon

  • @hammdogporkington3058
    @hammdogporkington3058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1700

    11:32 Kyogre using Earthquake to beat Groudon
    "I used the stones to destroy the stones"

  • @Grandflea02
    @Grandflea02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    As a Great man once said:
    "The only real way to beat primal groudon is to scare it off, but good luck striking fear in a guy who strikes fear into 71% of the planet's surface"

    • @secondace9495
      @secondace9495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      rainbow bambi and sky lizard:

    • @agentblackbird9435
      @agentblackbird9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If you’re talking about the planet’s surface, isn’t 71% of it the oceans? Idk, maybe I’m just misremembering something

    • @wakingdragon7538
      @wakingdragon7538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@agentblackbird9435 Kyogre

    • @jacksonsmith2955
      @jacksonsmith2955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@agentblackbird9435 in the gen 3 games the main plot revolved around groudon trying to dry up the oceans and kyogre trying to flood the contintents

    • @gamesnig
      @gamesnig ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cloud nine golduck:

  • @nickluckman1872
    @nickluckman1872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1536

    Can we talk about how when people use "less optimal" special Primal Groudon, it has "only" base 150 special attack? Ridiculous.

    • @BigLoloFrmDaO
      @BigLoloFrmDaO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      Yeah I'm surprised he didnt mention the Rock Polish Eruption set

    • @melancholicthinker9291
      @melancholicthinker9291 5 ปีที่แล้ว +252

      Gen 8 gives us Physical Kyogre and Special Groudon

    • @baszko6152
      @baszko6152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@melancholicthinker9291 Kyo i Gro to each other. " STOP COPYING ME!"

    • @squidgysquid7856
      @squidgysquid7856 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Melancholic Thinker physical kyogre is already a thing with liquidation eq

    • @melancholicthinker9291
      @melancholicthinker9291 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@squidgysquid7856 yeah and special Groudon runs Eruption/Overheat, and at times Earth Power and HP Ice

  • @mr.shinyhunter6508
    @mr.shinyhunter6508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4749

    Dynamax Groudon is going to be a threat ... for mankind

    • @deezmodsonly1497
      @deezmodsonly1497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      for legit reasons.

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +518

      Ah Dynamix...yet another new gameplay mechanic in pokemon that's going to almost exclusively be used to give more broken overpoweredness to already broken legendary pokemon to the point of monotony just like Mega Evolution and Z Moves instead of their intended purpose of varying things up.

    • @galarianblades5674
      @galarianblades5674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      Mr. ShinyHunter Primal Groundon Dynamax

    • @toadgatter7512
      @toadgatter7512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Dominic Anderson
      Omega ruby story restarts

    • @johnpaulmacasaet7375
      @johnpaulmacasaet7375 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      dynamaxed mega ray counters groudon. xD

  • @matteussilvestre8583
    @matteussilvestre8583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4144

    It's over, Anakin! I have the Primal Groudon!

    • @mewtationssb
      @mewtationssb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      You underestimate my power!

    • @toadgatter7512
      @toadgatter7512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      I don’t like san- wait wrong scene

    • @sayvionwashington1939
      @sayvionwashington1939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +368

      Anakin: You underestimate my power! *Sends out Golduck with Cloud Nine*

    • @fernandoguillenperez7686
      @fernandoguillenperez7686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      @@sayvionwashington1939 critical *precipices blades* destroys golduck

    • @stevenmattrell3448
      @stevenmattrell3448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      M Silvestre
      You underestimate my Primal Kyogre

  • @albertorios2491
    @albertorios2491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +397

    Hi False Swipe Gaming, Alberto Ríos here (Panamá Special Event winner), thanks for the mention in the video and i love Groudon ♥️✌️

    • @banisco6394
      @banisco6394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Super Greyflash Aí sim doido

    • @DavideKuras
      @DavideKuras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One year passed but gg!

    • @user-wh1uc4qi7y
      @user-wh1uc4qi7y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@banisco6394 um br aqui olha so kk

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    When Groudon got it's Primal Reversion, I could hear it laugh in the face of Primal Kyorge as it's Water moves evaporate into nothing

    • @HardGuess
      @HardGuess 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Until Rayquaza destroyed it with waterfall

    • @vladtepes2667
      @vladtepes2667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope we get more primal forms for fossil pokemon

    • @worshiperofthelegendarypig9429
      @worshiperofthelegendarypig9429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@vladtepes2667 that... Makes no sense, Groudon and Kyogre have primals because they created the sea and land and are now dormant. So they would need to be more powerful when they were doing stuff

    • @whydoiexist2180
      @whydoiexist2180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@worshiperofthelegendarypig9429 primal bidoof

  • @beebobber546
    @beebobber546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5180

    Gamefreak: alright guys we need to make the Hoenn trio incredibly overpowered! First off let’s give Groudon a fire typing.
    Employee: but it will be x4 weak to water?
    Gamefreak: ..... let’s get rid of that completely

    • @Dz73zxxx
      @Dz73zxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +623

      Original : make hay when the sun shines
      GF : *make primal groudon when the sun harshly burns the planet*

    • @bitchd7839
      @bitchd7839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +382

      Tbh Primal Kyogre isn't incredibly op as its Choiced sets. The only reason why Primal Kyogre is more viable is because it can cancel Primal Groudon's weather. If P-don gets banned, Choiced Kyogre would be the king of ubers again, with mixed Primal Kyogre only appearing from time to time.
      Primal Groudon and Mega Ray are definitely overpowered though.

    • @boomburstgaming3727
      @boomburstgaming3727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Employee: brilliant

    • @GIR177
      @GIR177 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Why are Game Freak and its employees separate? lol

    • @koishikomeiji3888
      @koishikomeiji3888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      It's not completely gone. Rayquaza (and Golduck but good luck with Duck) can ignore Desolate Land's water shriveling.

  • @CritsuKirby
    @CritsuKirby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2002

    The legend. The monster. The thing that's on EVERY Ubers and Unrestricted Team.

    • @skiffy8121
      @skiffy8121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      and then shuckle comes to fuckle up the strongest mon

    • @skiffy8121
      @skiffy8121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Mordecai Israel shuckle has custap forretress's help with toxic spikes, youd have to play carefully to avoid those to begin with, if you can get a sub up without being toxiced, then yeah shuckle will be fuckled

    • @GIR177
      @GIR177 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Technically Arceus has the highest usage, it's just that all of its formes are counted separately.

    • @williamhuynh869
      @williamhuynh869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@GIR177 too many arcei

    • @CaptainMantine
      @CaptainMantine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ah yes! The legend Kyogre!

  • @DarkPurpleDude
    @DarkPurpleDude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Talking about how Kyogre and Groudon go at it against each other in Ubers weather wars is probably the most accurate the Pokedex is going to get.

  • @TT-hw6ie
    @TT-hw6ie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +991

    Groudon: *Jumps*
    Metagross:AW shiet *Dies*

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      That animation from XD Gale of darkness was probably the most awesome thing in that game so monumentally glorious and terrifying

    • @JoshuaTheTransitProdigy
      @JoshuaTheTransitProdigy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😭😭😭😭😭

    • @acemerceramv8561
      @acemerceramv8561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      1:47
      *F*

    • @sm-yu7dt
      @sm-yu7dt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here we go again

    • @angterrastriker6535
      @angterrastriker6535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      YEE

  • @NerdX151
    @NerdX151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2184

    Game Designer: "How strong should I make Primal Groudon?"
    TPC: "Yes"

    • @waterboy126
      @waterboy126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      YES YES YES

    • @dustin3294
      @dustin3294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      water boy 12 YES YES YES YES oh my god

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      P.Groudon: ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA

    • @raizenramos9087
      @raizenramos9087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mega Rayquaza: Am i a joke to you?

    • @JohnZ-
      @JohnZ- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dustin3294 YES YES YES, JoJo reference

  • @mattfry6716
    @mattfry6716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +924

    Loki: I have a Primal Groudon.
    Tony: We have a Golduck.

    • @Alexandre-gg7qd
      @Alexandre-gg7qd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Cloud nine op

    • @goldreaper9283
      @goldreaper9283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That means next week hopefully it's How Good was Golduck Actully?

    • @thewhiteninjaminington8953
      @thewhiteninjaminington8953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This is the most genius thing that I’ve ever seen

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I used Psyduck with Eviolith in VGC 2016

    • @mattkarge
      @mattkarge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cloud nine doesn't work on pg/pk, I've tried believe me

  • @ElectroBlastLuigi
    @ElectroBlastLuigi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +487

    *Kyogre wasn't covered yet because it's still swimming around in Alola with Lana.*

    • @TheAdventuretrainerRuby
      @TheAdventuretrainerRuby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yay, someone is watching sun and moon😎😎

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      it heard she lied.

    • @SharyK-_0
      @SharyK-_0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I watched till 80 episodes

    • @spacejunk2186
      @spacejunk2186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And it actually happened.

  • @paulbatut842
    @paulbatut842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +669

    I remember in vgc2016 when, in order to underspeed Kyogre, Groudon was level 49

    • @alsparkproductions7849
      @alsparkproductions7849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Why tho?

    • @fulgenzio89
      @fulgenzio89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      And then Kyogre was level 48, and then Groudon level 47 and so on until they were both level 1

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@fulgenzio89 the usual is at level 50. Only nutkobs go for level 49 because of the lack of power.

    • @cooperm4185
      @cooperm4185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@fulgenzio89 you can't have Kyogre/Groudon lower than level 45

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@fulgenzio89 no, kyogre never went below 50, groudon made up for the lost power with swords dance

  • @solaimanshahriar6202
    @solaimanshahriar6202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1413

    Only 21 minutes? I was expecting this to be 2 hours long.

    • @bitchd7839
      @bitchd7839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Wait till Kyogre's video. It's been the king of ubers for three and a half gens unlike Primal Groudon's one and a half so it should be longer.

    • @TheBornageFobbie
      @TheBornageFobbie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Would have been if he named normal placements instead of just worlds

    • @alkaspoon9282
      @alkaspoon9282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be honest I was expecting that too

    • @sayvionwashington1939
      @sayvionwashington1939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This isn't a GameXplain analysis video

    • @HeilRay
      @HeilRay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I took the extra time to go out and watch Godzilla King of monsters.
      Movies apparently not doing as good as hoped.

  • @past874
    @past874 5 ปีที่แล้ว +631

    Groudon, the Pokemon that can cause droughts strong enough to dry up entire oceans. Wasn't a fire type until gen 6.

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      still waiting for Lugia to get a form with water typing

    • @shutup1037
      @shutup1037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      well he made land

    • @solismax65
      @solismax65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@M3rtyville yuck x4 electric weakness. Nah he’s fine how he is

    • @Vichola
      @Vichola 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@solismax65 just give it a electric immunity

    • @woomynation
      @woomynation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@solismax65 you talking smack about moxie dragon dance gyarados?

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1346

    Arceus: "I'm the most powerful Pokémon in Übers!"
    Primal Groudon: "Please allow me to introduce myself."

    • @dumpsockpuppet5619
      @dumpsockpuppet5619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +317

      Mega Rayquaza *[Laughs in Anything Goes]*

    • @zeno1099
      @zeno1099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Mega Ray **~laughing by being in a higher tier~**

    • @coot33
      @coot33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Fun bro : exist
      Every other Pokemon : I want to get out of funbro's wild ride.

    • @alexroth67
      @alexroth67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      GameFreak: Do you know what would be a good idea? Making a bunch of Pokemon that are stronger than the actual god Pokemon.

    • @Alexandre-gg7qd
      @Alexandre-gg7qd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Arceus ground would like to have a word with primal groudon

  • @MakoShiruba
    @MakoShiruba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Groudon is what many backyard kids believed Charizard was: Boosting for a Turn and then Earthquake'd everything not inmune to Ground and if it was, Burn it.

    • @curts7801
      @curts7801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      “Quake and Burn” is the mantra for many kids playing Pokémon. Can’t blame them. It’s satisfying and it works.

  • @shockwave3648
    @shockwave3648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +493

    The guy with 6 Primal Groudons on showdown be like:
    “Hi Noob, use good pokemon”

    • @bustin1946
      @bustin1946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      the garbodors: hey

    • @coldore6734
      @coldore6734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You cant use 2 of the same Pokémon in showdown

    • @urhsusnikvrecic1478
      @urhsusnikvrecic1478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@coldore6734 you can in AG

    • @coldore6734
      @coldore6734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@urhsusnikvrecic1478 oh cool didnt know that

    • @urhsusnikvrecic1478
      @urhsusnikvrecic1478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@coldore6734 yeah, but i doubt its even worth knowing, since AG is the dynamaxed mega rayquaza tier with 12 YOs packing multiple arceuses per team

  • @matthorseirons6791
    @matthorseirons6791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    9:08 - RIP Fairy Types (Before Fairies Existed)

  • @xDoctorxFaustusx
    @xDoctorxFaustusx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    I always liked Groudon for its kaiju looks.
    ...Shame its actually not as big as one like how the anime always depict it.

    • @andrevanderlinden8722
      @andrevanderlinden8722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Crow the BOOLET venomothra isnt huge either unfortunately

    • @kazoorion7993
      @kazoorion7993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Crow the BOOLET I think Colosseum and XD does justice to it's size despite the size restrictions.

    • @wanderingrogue3039
      @wanderingrogue3039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Dynamax!!!

    • @beta511ee4
      @beta511ee4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Crow the BOOLET Isn’t it, like, 11 feet tall?

    • @Dz73zxxx
      @Dz73zxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Meanwhile its counterpart...legend says that Kyogre resembles an expensive aquarium fish

  • @GygasDistruttore
    @GygasDistruttore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Groudon powers up Cherrim.
    Therefore Groudon is ok in my book.

    • @Kristalya
      @Kristalya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Cherrim is so cute and unique 🍒 she needs love from Game Freak 🌞

    • @ronswanson7371
      @ronswanson7371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Kristalya yes 😊

    • @permabanter7770
      @permabanter7770 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment eating well this week

  • @stevn2827
    @stevn2827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1877

    How good was chetsoberry actually?

    • @briankim1098
      @briankim1098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Lemonade HP THIS! I’d love to see an item series FSG!

    • @rossthemoss6827
      @rossthemoss6827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      Oran berry best item hands down

    • @penapower894
      @penapower894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      How good was everstone actually?

    • @krosshair450
      @krosshair450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is a great idea!

    • @polypolar715
      @polypolar715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Lemonade HP How GOOD was Pretty Wing ACTUALLY??

  • @piers1796
    @piers1796 5 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    I may prefer Kyogre, but Groudon was an amazing Pokemon and I'm glad it still is.

    • @magicmagikarp7425
      @magicmagikarp7425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      same i prefer kyogre but groudon is *AMAZING*

    • @myheroandmadaralover2372
      @myheroandmadaralover2372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@magicmagikarp7425 i love all three

    • @fernandonguyen1197
      @fernandonguyen1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      These two are the defining metagame in the golden days

    • @USSFFRU
      @USSFFRU ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fernandonguyen1197 Now they did the great switcharoo

  • @TheDiego908
    @TheDiego908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Gotta love how each VGC gen gets exponentially more anime

  • @tonyflynn1801
    @tonyflynn1801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "History shows, again and again, how nature winds up the folly of man" - Blue Oyster Cult

  • @pujo1227
    @pujo1227 5 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    Looking like pokeaim's uber road to top 10

    • @matthewsun6374
      @matthewsun6374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Pujolly I really liked how Joey gave groudon some loved, he’s so underrated!

    • @CubeBizz
      @CubeBizz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lmao

  • @Rich.p126
    @Rich.p126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Ubers: *exists*
    Primal groundon: *hello there*

    • @seaside503
      @seaside503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Everyone in ubers: General Groudon!

    • @pirateclick1d169
      @pirateclick1d169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah yeah same thing every year I'm already on the list

    • @MightyMobileMatt
      @MightyMobileMatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyone in Ubers; "You are a Bold one!"
      Primal Groudon; "Actually I'm Adamant."

  • @finchinator990
    @finchinator990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    You could say Primal Groudon made the VGC & Ubers tiers a Desolate Land

  • @okaten3522
    @okaten3522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love Groudon's Gen 4 sprite because it looks like he's mad at his best friend for stealing all the chips at a party. He looks like he's saying "Yo, dude, what the hell? Why'd you go and eat all my chips?"

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tyranitar's gen 3 sprite is similar and I really like them too.

  • @calebelbrock3156
    @calebelbrock3156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Godzilla: I'm the king of monsters
    Primal Groudon: hold my precipice blades

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You want Groudon to die, don't you?

    • @andrevanderlinden8722
      @andrevanderlinden8722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Alejandro Hernández yeh groudon would 100% lose. Godzilla is like 5000x its size

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@andrevanderlinden8722 this is what I think are the right Groudon's measures of height:
      Normal Groudon: 60 meters tall
      Primal Groudon: 80 meters tall
      Now Godzilla's size:
      Godzilla (2019): 119.78 meters tall
      Conclusion: Groudon, if you want to live, you better kneel before your King

    • @dumpsockpuppet5619
      @dumpsockpuppet5619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@alejandroelluxray5298 good idea, crouch to eat his legs

    • @iaxacs3801
      @iaxacs3801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrevanderlinden8722 That's why you Gigamax it. Also Alejandro you should've looked up heights cause Groudon in Primal form is only 5 Meters tall

  • @arhkadian2389
    @arhkadian2389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    groudon has been one of my favorite pokemon since gen 3, to see it reborn in gen 6 was awesome.

  • @Vinlie
    @Vinlie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Groudon also made an appearance in the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games, don't forget. He played a pretty substantial part in RRT and Explorers of S/T/Sky

  • @jonathanrogers959
    @jonathanrogers959 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The way I see it, kyogre is surrounded. What's under the ocean? That's right, more earth.

  • @researchinbreeder
    @researchinbreeder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    You: kyOGre NeXT
    Me, an intellectual: Kyogre in 2 mo. so the trio is evenly spaced.

    • @alexandradordzhieva3835
      @alexandradordzhieva3835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Student Rohan Joshi The fact that you wrote "b" instead of "be" really triggers me.

    • @samd2612
      @samd2612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexandradordzhieva3835 Don’t b so angry

    • @alexandradordzhieva3835
      @alexandradordzhieva3835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samd2612
      Noooooooooooooooo
      *dies*

    • @samd2612
      @samd2612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexandradordzhieva3835 r you okay? I don't want you to b dead

    • @alexandradordzhieva3835
      @alexandradordzhieva3835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samd2612
      No I'm dead

  • @fatfuck2384
    @fatfuck2384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Groudon was my first legendary Pokemon. I'm glad it's such a beast

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol braa its OP now days, just hope gamefreak are not dumb enough to give it dragon dance.

    • @XO_Hikari
      @XO_Hikari 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@octoslut oh no

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a tiny wee wee but no what??

    • @XO_Hikari
      @XO_Hikari 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@octoslut if it gets dragon dance I'm ded lol

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a tiny wee wee but lol yeh but game freak is not too bright when it comes to balancing

  • @JB-bc2ry
    @JB-bc2ry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Last Week's Gen 3 Ground Type: Good for all of one Gen, then Trash.
    This Week's Gen 3 Ground Type: Good for all of its Gens, never Trash.
    If I may quote: "Of course, interesting manuever"

  • @salthesalmonshark6849
    @salthesalmonshark6849 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to have dreams as a kid where Groudon lived in my closet. Not really nightmares, just Groudon chilling on my closet and I panicked because I couldn't find my pants.

  • @nathanf1149
    @nathanf1149 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I'm so sorry you had to do all this Kellen...

    • @heartofthefluft8541
      @heartofthefluft8541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don't be sorry. I think he loves to talk about the Pokémon's competitive scene, and he will be taking a rest eventually.

    • @nathanf1149
      @nathanf1149 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@heartofthefluft8541 it's just a meme in he patreon discord

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't beat the 25 minute script for Mewtwo in which he was talking like twice as fast

  • @jackofspadesman
    @jackofspadesman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hey, thanks for the shout out (Jake Magier here!) Groudon was awesome and will always be awesome. You should do Volcarona sometime soon ;)

  • @itsninjaboy7985
    @itsninjaboy7985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It's cool that Groudon was delayed and uploaded on the same day I caught it in Omega Ruby

  • @MrFabioxz
    @MrFabioxz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m always sooo happy if i see that u posted a new video!! Keep up the good work!! And i just find out after watching u for almost 1,5 year that i wasn’t subscribed!! From now on u have 1 extra loyal fan!

  • @XLRATEable
    @XLRATEable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Oh boy i wonder what next weeks pokemon i gonna be!
    🐟

    • @shanem8957
      @shanem8957 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Casper Fransen magikarp?

    • @HintedImage
      @HintedImage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clearly Wishiwashi.

    • @snakeywakey3893
      @snakeywakey3893 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HintedImage That thing is OP. It makes Mega Rayquaza look like a joke.

    • @Mayank-mf7xr
      @Mayank-mf7xr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wailord ?

    • @XLRATEable
      @XLRATEable 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are all idiots it will obviously be "How good was REMORAID actually?"

  • @iamcarnitas
    @iamcarnitas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been so excited for this episode! My favorite Pokémon!

  • @ilovedogs2642
    @ilovedogs2642 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg yes been waiting for this one for ages!!!! Thank you

  • @raver-kun2035
    @raver-kun2035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been waiting for this video, and I was not disappointed, Thanks FSG team

  • @lecanoscoptical3455
    @lecanoscoptical3455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Groudon's tiny hop in the Sonority games is adorable and I hate having never seen it until now

  • @sirtimothy92
    @sirtimothy92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Dynamax Mega Rayquaza: *exist*
    Anything goes: "GET OUT!!"

  • @omegafuzi0n479
    @omegafuzi0n479 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something about the way you explain all of this is super captivating, it made me sub

  • @seangalvin672
    @seangalvin672 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally! ive been wanting you to do groudon for the longest time

  • @royhe3154
    @royhe3154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    7:59 The lack of "Sorry if I butcher your name" pained me.

  • @acemerceramv8561
    @acemerceramv8561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    18:45
    *M E N A C I N G M O O N R A Z E M A E L S T R O M*

  • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
    @henriquecarballoaranha9100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Who would win?
    The embodyment of the geosphere
    or
    One clueless quacky boi

  • @Alex-wd8en
    @Alex-wd8en 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Just some day's ago I fought a primal Groudon for the first time ever. Seems like solar beam on Groudon doesn't go well against mirror coat Milotic

  • @ThumberBulls6
    @ThumberBulls6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    >How good was Groudon ACTUALLY?
    Haha haha hahaha this is a joke video right? Haha right??

    • @chendror872
      @chendror872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Answer: Really good

    • @DivadRovert
      @DivadRovert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@chendror872 Correction: Omnipotent

    • @chendror872
      @chendror872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DivadRovert all hail the red dinosaur of doom

    • @murlocmaster6192
      @murlocmaster6192 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My ditto crushes groudon!

    • @darkrose8328
      @darkrose8328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This would just apply to any of the weather trio lets be honest

  • @mx.e2176
    @mx.e2176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Kyogre will flush him down a really blue toilet. If you understand the reference, you’re very cultured. The reference is Terminal Montage’s Legendary Pokémon Battle Royal

    • @1AMdoesSomething
      @1AMdoesSomething 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Mr. E
      *screams in Terminal Montage*

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      bork
      Volcano explodes

    • @nikc101
      @nikc101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. E i gotchu

    • @joshe138
      @joshe138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bah! Bah!

    • @fallenchao
      @fallenchao 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Entei: bark

  • @thepredator4207
    @thepredator4207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been waiting for this video for sooooooooooo long and it didn't disappoint

  • @milkman8878
    @milkman8878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting a long time for this, thanks

  • @darianclark3980
    @darianclark3980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I used to thought Groundon was part Fire when I first saw it.
    Anyone else who agreed with me?

    • @nixuniverse5240
      @nixuniverse5240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When I was younger I automatically thought every Pokémon’s type was based on their color. So when I first saw him I thought he was Fire because he was red.

    • @voltingmaster5458
      @voltingmaster5458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Darian Clark I thought so to, Which made it hilarious when Gamefreak added the fire typing to its primal form!

    • @robertharris6092
      @robertharris6092 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. Emerald was my first and only pokemon till i playex x and y. And i used to always think groudon was always ground fire.

  • @officersoulknight6321
    @officersoulknight6321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Primal Groudon; 4x weak to Water
    Also Primal Groudon; *n o*

  • @mikkoto2135
    @mikkoto2135 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Kellen! I don't have a switch, so I haven't gotten to play pokemon Let's Go, but I have tried it out on showdown and found it to be really weird with its mechanics and changes. I feel like it'd make a great video! Another Pokemon Generation Battle Mechanics explained like the RBY vids! Love your vids man, been binging them recently after kinda forgetting about your channel for a while lol.

  • @johnnyblocks7956
    @johnnyblocks7956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:27 it’s also what decides the weather here in Florida

  • @daddy7888
    @daddy7888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Groudon honestly had the most successful career in competitive. It has always been one of the best and at one point it was the best. With mega Rayquaza gone, it really let primal Groudon shine along with Kyogre. Amazing legendary!!!

  • @stupidhead_2812
    @stupidhead_2812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm really happy that Groudon has always been fantastic. He's one of my favorite legendaries and has a special place in my heart

  • @5minvsarefer
    @5minvsarefer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s been a while since you used “Dark Utopia” in the beginning, and I love it!

  • @elmatias7922
    @elmatias7922 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like Groudon for the design and also because he is a monster at the competitive thanks False Swipe, I was really waiting for this video

  • @uigpoe
    @uigpoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ive been watching these videos since the Charizard episode and I just knew you would make it this far one day. Kudos to a fantastic series that the pokemon community DESPERATELY needed.

  • @surite2573
    @surite2573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How Primal-Groudon hasn't been moved to AG I don't know

    • @christianwai1796
      @christianwai1796 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It holds the tier together. Xerneas and primal ogre would skyrocket fi you banned pdon then you would have to ban them too. Then the mons kyogre keeps in check rise and so on. It itself is not broken in that way that it forces a specific teamcomp but if you took it out pogre and xerneas would cause they would wreak havoc

  • @Chrisboy265
    @Chrisboy265 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This isn’t the video we needed, but it’s the one we deserve. Thank you FSG, very cool!

  • @David_Johannesson
    @David_Johannesson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic episode!

  • @aa7146
    @aa7146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Who's Groudon?
    Don't you mean *walking barber clippers*

  • @alexandermcmillan8056
    @alexandermcmillan8056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Groudon, the face of sun in Ubers. Man what a beast.

  • @parad0x765
    @parad0x765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2nd legendary pokemon I ever saw, years ago I had got like a small magazine showing the anime sizes of Groudon and Primal Groudon, ever since then I fell in love with the design(primal Groupon is satisfying for some reason), even though not my favourite competitively(I still somehow try to make it work in gen 9), one of my favourites in design for all time. The first pokemon movie I watched was Jirachi the wishmaker, Meta/Virus Groudon's design ws just amazing.

  • @mithenmedina540
    @mithenmedina540 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been awaiting for this.

  • @aroobism
    @aroobism 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Another great video by fsg
    In other news grass is green

    • @richman6974
      @richman6974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not where i live, Only trees are green, everything else is yellow

    • @aroobism
      @aroobism 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rich Hernandez ok well then trees are green?

    • @richman6974
      @richman6974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aroobism yes

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rayquaza Is Green.

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaschabull2365
      *laughs in shiny*

  • @supersmashbro596
    @supersmashbro596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you know what would have been a neat mechanic for the blue/red orb in the remakes? if making kyogre hold the red orb or groudon hold the blue orb would cause them to act as if they were traded pokemon you don't have badges to train, regardless of your actual badge count.

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be awesome

  • @mikoutv1707
    @mikoutv1707 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The list of vgc names in the description instead of in the video is a great change!

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just looked this up thanks!

  • @balloonperson1115
    @balloonperson1115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can't wait to see just how terrifying Water Spout Kyogre was

  • @wilhelmsarosen4735
    @wilhelmsarosen4735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I never understood how Groudon could go toe to toe with Kyogre in the story, given their typing......

    • @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
      @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lore does not equal gameplay. Otherwise lugia couldn't be the master of the kanto birds.

    • @Lauren_C
      @Lauren_C 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
      In the anime, Groudon fought Kyogre with Solarbeam.
      In competitive, Primal Groudon tends to have the overall advantage against Primal Kyogre. Reason being that while Kyogre is effectively neutered in the sun and is forced to fall back on Ice Beam for damage, Groudon's Precipice Blades is still astronomically powerful, sun or rain, and gets STAB. Thus Groudon is still a very threatening foe in heavy rain.

    • @wilhelmsarosen4735
      @wilhelmsarosen4735 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Libra The beautiful War Monk Well, it has multiscale, so it should be enough for it to strike back :)

    • @wilhelmsarosen4735
      @wilhelmsarosen4735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lauren C But isn't Primal Groudon good as dead in the rain though?

    • @andreescalona8902
      @andreescalona8902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wilhelmsarosen4735 2 years later: no. Kyogre's STAB moves get cancelled in harsh sun, while Groundon's ground STAB can still hit it. So it's safer to switch Primal Groudon into Primal Kyogre than the other way around

  • @Mr8sian
    @Mr8sian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I too support a video on Life Orb and Eviolite throughout the generations, maybe 2 separate videos so you can get more overall views 😊
    If you ever get into a rut, you can also continue the type video series that you started with Ice type. I'd really like to see the others in an overall video.

  • @davionblackburn9318
    @davionblackburn9318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome back, FSG!!! 🎮😎🎮

  • @arminxvs3372
    @arminxvs3372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mine had also Solarbeam. With Drought it could use it immediately and screw up some Water ennemies. As a kid it felt like a genius move haha ^^

  • @chamber8234
    @chamber8234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes! Groudon is by far my favorite Pokémon ever ❤️

  • @isaacscards3942
    @isaacscards3942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video 👍

  • @luissantiago5163
    @luissantiago5163 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't know about this channel. These vids are hype. You've earned a new subscriber. Keep up the great work dude!

  • @leekyonion
    @leekyonion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Do you think you can add the Pokemon's nature to these sets? It'd be great so I can build these in the future! Thanks :)

  • @bdt2002gaming
    @bdt2002gaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's scary to think that the banning of Mega Rayquaza may have actually made Primal Groudon slightly worse in Ubers than when both were allowed at the same time.

    • @MasterlyRex8789
      @MasterlyRex8789 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh? Yeah absolutely not. Primal Groudon is one of the few Pokemon Mega Ray scares out so easily. You’re in the very uncomfortable position of wanting to switch out against Mega Ray. Except switching against Mega Ray is one of the most dangerous things to do.

    • @bdt2002gaming
      @bdt2002gaming หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MasterlyRex8789 My rationale behind this comment at the time was that Primal Groudon tended to match up well into Pokémon that were good into Mega Rayquaza, or at least as good as you could be. Stuff like Xerneas, certain Steel-Types, heck I’ll throw in Mega Gengar for good measure, all lose to certain Primal Groudon variants.

  • @smeltstarverse7306
    @smeltstarverse7306 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gen 3 was my first Pokemon generation, and Ruby was my first Pokemon game. I always loved Groudon. Though I've never really been into competitive Pokemon, I'm glad to see my boy doing well competitively

  • @wolfgangervin2582
    @wolfgangervin2582 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love seeing how the übers clash with and synergize with eachother.

  • @The1_Static-X_Fan
    @The1_Static-X_Fan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Groudon was also a good challenge in Explorers of Darkness/Time

  • @fadeddragon123
    @fadeddragon123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine if in the remakes of gen 4 the dragons got the primal treatment

    • @Choomba78
      @Choomba78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ):

    • @renegade6578
      @renegade6578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welp.

    • @valet2972
      @valet2972 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah…they should have..

  • @stevenmattrell3448
    @stevenmattrell3448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember catching Groudon in Omega Ruby. I used a Gyarados which made two of Groudon’s moves useless (earthquake and precipice blades) due to Gyarados’s flying type and made two of Gyarados’ moves useless (hydro pump and dive), due to desolate land. Leaving lave plume and rest as Groudon’s only usable moves, as for Gyarados, it could only use crunch and ice fang.

  • @kazzysaysno1650
    @kazzysaysno1650 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see my favorite Legendary shine like this!

  • @SilverFang2789
    @SilverFang2789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *HOW GOOD WAS DUSCLOPS & DUSKNOIR ACTUALLY?*

  • @Meteo_sauce
    @Meteo_sauce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:38
    Mike tyson vs a 5 year old
    colorized 2020

    • @plabcentral630
      @plabcentral630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m glad I decided to randomly scroll though comments

  • @ganning1174
    @ganning1174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not into the competitve Pokemon scene, but your informative documentaries are adored by this subscriber. Have a like.

  • @cosmic2859
    @cosmic2859 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESS!! About time