Love the message about not being too reactive. There's a lot of trash advice out there that tells you if she doesn't fall in love with you after your first conversation, she won't ever date you. This is crap and real life doesn't work like this. Most people want to understand you and your behavior before they make a decision to keep going or not. Also as evidenced by this video, a flake is not the end of an interaction unless you let it be.
I see quite a few people in the comments saying that they would have given up on a conversation long ago, and that he has a lot of patience. It's not a matter of having patience as a natural virtue, it's about being so committed to the game and loving the game so much that the amount of effort that he put in here is nothing to him. when you are a professional this stuff is Child's Play and seems like it only takes a moment out of your life. Also, I'm sure that in the process of texting her, he was most likely texting a bunch of other chicks as well, and getting more positive feedback. when you have a few other compliant chicks in the rotation, it makes conversations like this a little more fun. A lot of guys only have one chick that they're talking to at a time and that's why when situations like this arises, it's so stressful to them; because they NEED HER to convert. Which is a big no no no... in the game.
Blows my mind not only your text game but the Ammount of time you spend and invest texting... The risk of waste your time and getting nothing is too high
this was great, felt like i was having that conversation with her... went smooth as hell, and I say how that could've gone wrong at many occassions if just made the wrong calls on what to send here and there
1st ... know that he's only showing you specific types of females (party & adventure types). Most other types will want to text you & know alot more about you before the meetup. Typically when females meet you and are really into you, they are going to text you alot more & way more often. (Perhaps he just skipped showing that part of the texting).
Agreed! These types of strategies would not work on me bc if I am not into you or if i just don’t feel like responding, I will cut the convo short no matter what moves are made. It takes a specific type of girl for these game plays to slide & achieve a high success rate.
6:20 was failing two shit tests in a row. She challenged you, then you made plans then she rejected your day idea and you went with it. Then you failed a few more so they escalated. But loving these videos man, they’re actually good.
omg ... as a gay person .. watching a couple of this guys videos and seeing first hand the GAMES that heteros play is INSANE!!! Straight girls play GAMES! and straight men are forced to adapt- its fucking wild! A lot different in lez world gotta say
GG bro, at first thought the newer bratty video is way better at showing how to deal with this kind of behavior, however watching this one further proved to show a lot more layers to this programming. Thanks beast. :D
That kind of girl is not that hard to get. I don’t know how hot she was but I think she doesn’t get that much validation everyday. Her shit tests are easy, many different possibilities as long as you just hold your frame. To me the hot party girl text game is still your best. Only one or two possible response each time and you don’t make any mistake. The hot party girl can vanish anytime but this one will always be around as long as you keep reengaging. You already won her at half convo, then you just had to confirm.
Thing is over back and forth would be too annoying to me. I guess I'm so simple woman. It's either honor it's not. If it's annoying me I just stop talking LOL but I don't go back and forth like that. I never have. It's just like why would I do that? Added to the fact of alcohol always being involved. I'm not one who drinks. And then the whole thing about being bratty. Often I find Ben will think I'm bratty. But I'm not bratty. Bratty people are submissive. I'm not submissive. It's not all an act. It's just me. Laugh out loud. It's more of a thing when the person thinks it's a bratty situation but really I've just completely given up and been like okay whatever. And they still think it's on as if it's a bratty situation and it's like it's not a bratty situation it's just me. I'll try and if it doesn't work it doesn't work I'm not I'm not really going to fight for it. I'm not that type. It seems like this woman tried to fight for it like three different times. I don't know I'm just not that time to fight for anything like that. And to top it off I live in vegas. Which is annoying. Because we get a lot of the tourists. and the terrorists are always kind of like that. Which is annoying because when you're just trying to find someone who you know you want like as a one-time thing. You could use a tourist but half the time they seem like they have this weird mentality of vegas. And from my perspective it's like you know I don't live in Vegas to party to do anything. I just live in Vegas because when I was 18 I was in vegas. And I had to make a living for myself I didn't live in Vegas just because I was trying to go to a place to party out. You know I came to Vegas because I was a new 18-year-old and my mother moved to Vegas so I moved with her. As much as I could have stayed in reno. But Reno Hartley is any different from here. Only it's well I won't get into that on here it would make you uncomfortable but the point is yeah the whole idea of what you're saying setting the scene of kind of like a hookup situation where it's like bar scenes and like drinking. It's just a little annoying there.
I know I'm very late, but I honestly think you could've gotten to a close faster and with more compliance if you had gotten the vibe right before closing instead of attempting to close over and over while she was still giving you shit
Good shit. Although I'm not gonna lie, I feel like a lot of the shit she was giving you might have been avoided over a 5 min phone call. If I can get her on the phone she probably can't be as bratty in the moment. But that's my style anyway.
I have learnt one thing from Ciel Chen. When a girl just hearts or likes a text but doesn't reply back, one can just send this, "Ah, welcome to 2020 (the year here) where hearting/liking a text is an acceptable response"
@@PlayingWithFireChannel That sounds good. I also learnt one more thing from Nitin. When a girl just likes or hearts a text and doesn't reply after that, based on where one is with the girl, one can send, "Just liking my text. Not gonna ask me out/Not gonna ask how my day was" I fucking love the level of creativity that you guys bring into text. My textgame changed a lot because of you guys for sure.
Sorry, but both of those are not a good text at all and over qualifying yourself for her and also you are insinuating that you’re craving a response from her, so is that trick you’re using. Be more natural and just continue with what you’re talking as if she responded to your text.
On apps like WhatsApp, for example, you can see when someone is online. Do you still follow the same plan of action in situations like when she responded just "hmmm" and wait to see if she double-texts before you respond, even if she's seeing you online (I guess when you think about it, that's a bit more of a punishment as well to her)?
I’m would really like to know what your conversation is like once you actually meet up with her or get to your place. I wouldnt know what to say to escalate it to sex with a girl like that.
Good video. I didn't know it was ok to go on and on with a woman this long, I always gave up much sooner. Terrible audio, I couldn't understand a lot if the things you said.
i think you have poor judgement on how to escalate with a girl. its far more likely she will come to ur place if you gradually escalate not straight inviting her to your place
@@PlayingWithFireChannel going out for a coffee or a walk.maybe its the mentality of the girls there but where i live(greece)she wont come straight to ur place through dating apps
@@AniMeLoVeR23451 bruh your called anime lover and you are arguing with this dude that actually knows how to get pussy on how he should carry himself. its just comical isn´t it.
This doesnt feel like persistence. It feels like a salesman trying again and again to sell that date, and sticking up with customer. If it works for you, great.
@@PlayingWithFireChannel yea for sure I meant just doing cold approach on random girls as opposed to tolerating this chick's multiple flakes and completely abhorrent personality lol like she said, you could just find any random drunk girl on the street that is prettier than her. Not hating though. A lot of your approach was very clever. My concern is just how much BS was needed to put up with so where is your boundary to have respect for yourself when you're already double texting and accepting getting flaked on.
Alfred Hitchcock I just don’t take most shit personally. If a girl I’m seeing or a friend flakes on me, that’s one thing. But a random person who I barely know, nah Idgaf. In terms of the work required, it’s extremely minimal. I do most of my texting in between sets at the gym or when I’m waiting for something. I’d say it’s way less work then go out and try to meet new girls
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dat patience tho...
Balls of gandhi
Alex do more texting bratty girl videos. Seems like this is my major sticking point.
For sure man, I also have a few posts on this that you’ll probably find helpful.
forums.playingfire.com/posts/blonde-brat-numerous-flakes-tinder-lr
They’re the epitome of the game.
Great break down, most hot girls I text be playing. Staying high value and controlled in those situations got you far, now it's my turn to try.
Let us know how it goes man
How did it go dude
Did you smash bro?
How did it go?
@@kingryan2001 probably didn't make it
"You're cute when you are bieng a grammar nazi" LOL I died
Love the message about not being too reactive.
There's a lot of trash advice out there that tells you if she doesn't fall in love with you after your first conversation, she won't ever date you. This is crap and real life doesn't work like this.
Most people want to understand you and your behavior before they make a decision to keep going or not. Also as evidenced by this video, a flake is not the end of an interaction unless you let it be.
I see quite a few people in the comments saying that they would have given up on a conversation long ago, and that he has a lot of patience. It's not a matter of having patience as a natural virtue, it's about being so committed to the game and loving the game so much that the amount of effort that he put in here is nothing to him. when you are a professional this stuff is Child's Play and seems like it only takes a moment out of your life.
Also, I'm sure that in the process of texting her, he was most likely texting a bunch of other chicks as well, and getting more positive feedback. when you have a few other compliant chicks in the rotation, it makes conversations like this a little more fun.
A lot of guys only have one chick that they're talking to at a time and that's why when situations like this arises, it's so stressful to them; because they NEED HER to convert. Which is a big no no no... in the game.
This make so much sense brotha
Exactly some females are easier than others
I love love love the text 3 days later such a nice way to bring a girl down from a pedestal
Why would anyone want to even hang out with a girl like that.
I think my eyes just will be stuck rolled back forever from this tiring conversation. swipe lefttttt
Man, this is really really good texts. Your understanding and control is really good.
Abhishek Aggarwal Thanks man
You're patient and rigourous af. This is a huge load of shit tests. You got it bro
For sure man, patience is a virtue
As I'm watching this! I'm convinced this was a Michael Jordan level game play👌🏾
I try 😏
My guy put in the work for this chick, love to see it
Ohmygod, this was evasive AF 😂 beyond godlike texting man!
OMG props to your patience!! It seems you found your counterpart, she knew all your moves in advance 😂
LOL man that texting remembered me Ronaldinho Gaucho playing soccer
WAHAHAHAH
Blows my mind not only your text game but the Ammount of time you spend and invest texting... The risk of waste your time and getting nothing is too high
this was great, felt like i was having that conversation with her... went smooth as hell, and I say how that could've gone wrong at many occassions if just made the wrong calls on what to send here and there
1st ... know that he's only showing you specific types of females (party & adventure types). Most other types will want to text you & know alot more about you before the meetup.
Typically when females meet you and are really into you, they are going to text you alot more & way more often.
(Perhaps he just skipped showing that part of the texting).
Agreed! These types of strategies would not work on me bc if I am not into you or if i just don’t feel like responding, I will cut the convo short no matter what moves are made. It takes a specific type of girl for these game plays to slide & achieve a high success rate.
You have the patience of a saint man. Not gonna lie I would have lost my temper a long time ago.
She seem like a member from "Female" playing with fire kind
Seemed like that was a TON of work bro!
Top high-value content. Love it
Great video. I'm new to this channel. So far loving it.
Glad to hear man. Welcome
Dude at the end in the background lol. Getting dressed in his underwear, bro had me dying while Alex is talking about smashing a hottie.
The most Indian chick, handled very nicely g.
6:20 was failing two shit tests in a row. She challenged you, then you made plans then she rejected your day idea and you went with it. Then you failed a few more so they escalated.
But loving these videos man, they’re actually good.
Get a microphone.
And a tripod!
HAHAHAHAHAH
the "kya haal chaal beta" killed me it's too funny. I hope you realised how hard she's playing you too xD
Still hit = a win for the game and a loss for her 😂😂😂
omg ... as a gay person .. watching a couple of this guys videos and seeing first hand the GAMES that heteros play is INSANE!!! Straight girls play GAMES! and straight men are forced to adapt- its fucking wild! A lot different in lez world gotta say
What do you mean? I know the comments kinda old but that's actually really interesting
GG bro, at first thought the newer bratty video is way better at showing how to deal with this kind of behavior, however watching this one further proved to show a lot more layers to this programming. Thanks beast. :D
Alex how did your voice change within a few years? Juice?
Honestly I would of gave up on the second flake 😆 I just don’t know how to be persistent without sounding needy
Oh my christ... That was fucking awful texting haha. I'm actually shocked this girl dealt with this hahaha
Great video. Salute your skillset.
This is like 80% of the girls I text with. Guess hot Indian chicks always shit test so much, lol. Great video, I had tears towards the end. Much love!
;)
Great value as always!
Mike Bravo Thanks man!
Bro you're a genius
Kya haal chaal beta 😅👍, you're A Master at this, thanks for the videos
Thanks bro, real value 👍
That kind of girl is not that hard to get. I don’t know how hot she was but I think she doesn’t get that much validation everyday. Her shit tests are easy, many different possibilities as long as you just hold your frame.
To me the hot party girl text game is still your best. Only one or two possible response each time and you don’t make any mistake. The hot party girl can vanish anytime but this one will always be around as long as you keep reengaging. You already won her at half convo, then you just had to confirm.
I can only imagine the dynamic when you link up in person. Do you address her brattiness in a playful way or just act normal?
Totally depends on the context. But if she tests me, I over-exaggerate and call her out on that testy behavior. She thinks twice before testing again
Great video Alex
Sky Guy Thanks man
bratty? she seemed like a downright bish. good for you for keeping your cool alex
Great perspective
You save numbers in your phone like I do lol
audio is so bad please fix
Yeah a simple lapel mic would be a big improvement
@@jameslouis1627 meant for future vids :)
We tried something new and went with a shotgun mic for this video, but if it sounds worse we’ll have to go back to a wireless lav system
No child left behind. DAMN!!!!
You are my hero!
Good stuff. Cool vid and helpful text game. I enjoyed it. I thought she was pretty funny at times as well lol.
Glad to hear it man. And yes, she definitely had an interesting sense of humor
Thing is over back and forth would be too annoying to me. I guess I'm so simple woman. It's either honor it's not. If it's annoying me I just stop talking LOL but I don't go back and forth like that. I never have. It's just like why would I do that? Added to the fact of alcohol always being involved. I'm not one who drinks. And then the whole thing about being bratty. Often I find Ben will think I'm bratty. But I'm not bratty. Bratty people are submissive. I'm not submissive. It's not all an act. It's just me. Laugh out loud. It's more of a thing when the person thinks it's a bratty situation but really I've just completely given up and been like okay whatever. And they still think it's on as if it's a bratty situation and it's like it's not a bratty situation it's just me. I'll try and if it doesn't work it doesn't work I'm not I'm not really going to fight for it. I'm not that type. It seems like this woman tried to fight for it like three different times. I don't know I'm just not that time to fight for anything like that. And to top it off I live in vegas. Which is annoying. Because we get a lot of the tourists. and the terrorists are always kind of like that. Which is annoying because when you're just trying to find someone who you know you want like as a one-time thing. You could use a tourist but half the time they seem like they have this weird mentality of vegas. And from my perspective it's like you know I don't live in Vegas to party to do anything. I just live in Vegas because when I was 18 I was in vegas. And I had to make a living for myself I didn't live in Vegas just because I was trying to go to a place to party out. You know I came to Vegas because I was a new 18-year-old and my mother moved to Vegas so I moved with her. As much as I could have stayed in reno. But Reno Hartley is any different from here. Only it's well I won't get into that on here it would make you uncomfortable but the point is yeah the whole idea of what you're saying setting the scene of kind of like a hookup situation where it's like bar scenes and like drinking. It's just a little annoying there.
I know I'm very late, but I honestly think you could've gotten to a close faster and with more compliance if you had gotten the vibe right before closing instead of attempting to close over and over while she was still giving you shit
great shit
Texting/dating an Indian girl is tough so if you can game here its easy for you everywhere!
Good shit. Although I'm not gonna lie, I feel like a lot of the shit she was giving you might have been avoided over a 5 min phone call. If I can get her on the phone she probably can't be as bratty in the moment. But that's my style anyway.
"How to give yourself a hernia without lifting anything"
As a brat all I gotta say is I fucking love her lmao
Why did I picture mindy khaling from the office the whole time
I would have given up on her probably like 4 or 5 times.. this was great
I dont got The patience for these girls i usually say to them we should go buy u a collar from The pet store and they gone say yes.
omg this girl is so me lol didn't know i was a brat hahaha
Now you know 😈
good value bro, but please use a camera instead of a calculator to record
I’m not familiar with memes... where do you find these and how do you find ones applicable to what you want to send??
How on earth did you have the patience required for her even of if she was 10/10🤣🤣
Yea im good on that homie. I'll just stick to minimally pursuing the high interest chicks. Ain't nobody got time for this BS
why aren’t you confirming the dates the night before? or at least early in the day?
Bruh that girl isn't even bratty, she's just so fucking mean, wtf
Exactly! Bratty!
So pickup artist also get frustrated picking up Indian girls🤔! that's good to know!
I have learnt one thing from Ciel Chen. When a girl just hearts or likes a text but doesn't reply back, one can just send this, "Ah, welcome to 2020 (the year here) where hearting/liking a text is an acceptable response"
Haha that text was actually originally created by a guy in my mastermind group, Jeff
@@PlayingWithFireChannel That sounds good. I also learnt one more thing from Nitin. When a girl just likes or hearts a text and doesn't reply after that, based on where one is with the girl, one can send, "Just liking my text. Not gonna ask me out/Not gonna ask how my day was"
I fucking love the level of creativity that you guys bring into text. My textgame changed a lot because of you guys for sure.
Sorry, but both of those are not a good text at all and over qualifying yourself for her and also you are insinuating that you’re craving a response from her, so is that trick you’re using. Be more natural and just continue with what you’re talking as if she responded to your text.
@@vickykarthik2455 agreed
On apps like WhatsApp, for example, you can see when someone is online. Do you still follow the same plan of action in situations like when she responded just "hmmm" and wait to see if she double-texts before you respond, even if she's seeing you online (I guess when you think about it, that's a bit more of a punishment as well to her)?
Golden!
Omfg 😂 Alex is funny asf
Big take away is to get your own apartment in Miami lol. And get on tinder.
loev that u spelled bieng like that on the grammar nazi text!
I had a 3.2 GPA in college too.
I’m would really like to know what your conversation is like once you actually meet up with her or get to your place. I wouldnt know what to say to escalate it to sex with a girl like that.
Bro, whos the old woman filming?
fursa___ shred_til_ded My moms so be nice
@@PlayingWithFireChannel lmao. really?
YOU ARE GOD
Damn dude you sound different in that intro 🥴
This guy thinks waiting two days is “not texting back right away”🤦♀️
why do you always say let's split a bottle of wine? No girl who is giving it up wants to pay for anything.
No, I don’t mean it like split a check. I mean like let’s drink it together
And I just wanted to listen to my fav song "play with fire" does your channel name have to be PlayingWithFire 😒
Lol it does
@@PlayingWithFireChannel XD
Good video. I didn't know it was ok to go on and on with a woman this long, I always gave up much sooner.
Terrible audio, I couldn't understand a lot if the things you said.
Why are you the only guy who is saying this?
This is pretty dumb, the girl was already showing clear IOI and your over gaming when you dont need to.
but he still got her
your old vids are actually kinda hard to watch
Pmsl, how do you get other girls after these videos.
She was just being a typical indian girl and show of to an american i watch all ur videos but commenting on this one😅
C'mon bro, get a mic
On it. Stay tuned for the next vid
i think you have poor judgement on how to escalate with a girl. its far more likely she will come to ur place if you gradually escalate not straight inviting her to your place
Like by inviting her on my lawn?
@@PlayingWithFireChannel going out for a coffee or a walk.maybe its the mentality of the girls there but where i live(greece)she wont come straight to ur place through dating apps
@@AniMeLoVeR23451 bruh your called anime lover and you are arguing with this dude that actually knows how to get pussy on how he should carry himself. its just comical isn´t it.
Bro, if you want a million views on this, change the title to "Indian girl". Also, I feel every girl I have met in India is like her lol.
Haha. Good suggestion
At 14:27 I would’ve dropped her after she wrote “soon though”. I don’t have that much patience. I need to work on it.
Yea it can be annoying for sure
Reverb galore man. Get a mic
This doesnt feel like persistence. It feels like a salesman trying again and again to sell that date, and sticking up with customer.
If it works for you, great.
That's the real world if you're not a model 😂😂😂
zaroor & lekin are arabic words u ziodope
Audio sux
Holy shit. Congrats, but you spent a lot of time and energy to get this one lay.. Might it have been way easier to just go to a bar?
Alfred Hitchcock Not with this one, since the objection to meeting at my place didn’t come up until the very end
@@PlayingWithFireChannel yea for sure I meant just doing cold approach on random girls as opposed to tolerating this chick's multiple flakes and completely abhorrent personality lol like she said, you could just find any random drunk girl on the street that is prettier than her. Not hating though. A lot of your approach was very clever. My concern is just how much BS was needed to put up with so where is your boundary to have respect for yourself when you're already double texting and accepting getting flaked on.
Alfred Hitchcock I just don’t take most shit personally. If a girl I’m seeing or a friend flakes on me, that’s one thing. But a random person who I barely know, nah Idgaf. In terms of the work required, it’s extremely minimal. I do most of my texting in between sets at the gym or when I’m waiting for something. I’d say it’s way less work then go out and try to meet new girls
@@PlayingWithFireChannel ok fair enough
I feel like his advice is gold but the execution is just not there
nice video but anything besides white/europeans for me is not a catch.
Great video. Salute your skillset.