ordered a Roscoe 7 in June 2022..........and It showed up last week!!! It's the same bike in the review, and while waiting 2 years is completely nuts.........I'm glad I did. I'm In Brantford Ontario, and, this is my first "new" bike. Keep in mind, I just turned 65 so I have a lot of learning to do on this thing.......
3 of my 4 LBS' that sell TREK have multiple Roscoe 7s in stock waiting to be bought lol.....I can only find a size XL in the 9 locally though. Wait for a M/L in the 9 is July of 2023 though lol
To say the previous bike was more playful makes it clear you have not ridden the new one. They are vastly different bikes an the old Roscoe was not quite playful in its own right. Good bike, but not playful.
@@Jamesthebikeguy The new frame etc, makes it better than last model. 27+ on that frame, would make it even better. Other who have tested it, complains about nervous wheels in high speed. And yes I tested it today, and still wish they were 27+ 😁😁
Watched your video about the Checkpoint ALR 4 and bought it, now watching this video and buying this one, your videos are really good James, so informative and well delivered, thanks for your help and helping me make may decision on this bike.
I bought mine month ago, i got eThirteen Lg1 wheels instead of Bontrager but no Raceface cranks... I guess they come on different set ups due the shortages? 🤷🏻
@@Chris-de2qc the raceface is lighter stronger...and it says raceface! The biggest thing I've had happen to me with cheaper cranks is stripping the threads out of the arms when dropping or jumping.
funny i bought a rei coop drt 2.1about 2 years ago and aside from the suntour fork ,and it was leaps and bounds far advanced from the roscoe the main thing that sold me was the boost axles on the bike not the 141 that was sold on the trek .but now im happy its full boost spacing 148 glad ,trek finally came around to changing that.
4th Generation is correct for the "current" Roscoe. The Roscoe was sold under the Gary Fisher label as a 140mm full-suspension 26" rig for 2009 and 2010 before being replaced by the 29er Rumblefish. That 26er Roscoe was sweet while it lasted.
@@pelisinho frame geo is better for downhills and jumps, but the part spec is worse. Though the Stoic is $1200 vs like $1800 for the Roscoe. I managed to get the Stoic for a steal from someone who ordered the wrong size.
@@ItsMeHammie I see, thank you for answering :) I have ordered the new Roscoe, but it has been a year and the estimate for delivery is still January 2023, meanwhile the price has rised almost 500$, so I'm looking at alternatives, I don't think the new price is justified :/
@@ItsMeHammie yes the shop told me that the price will be the updated price at the time of arrival. Roscoe 7 costs 1700€ now. I do love it tho, I chose the blue color with black logo that has some "dots" effect, it is so pretty!
@@kihealthandwellness i sure have. In fact, that is how i found this channel, and i figured it would be better to ask an “expert” who has experience with these things. Unfortunately, google doesn’t tell you if a youtuber cares about his subscribers or not. But hey, you keep kissing hiney because that’s what you seem to do best 👍
For another 700 you can get a stumpjumper with 35 fork and full squish, makes buying a 30lb 2 Grand hardtail harder. 1500 or so is the sweet spot for a trail hardtail unfortunately pushed out by the COVID supply chain issues
Completely agree! $2000 for this? Pre Covid I bought a stumpy and it was decked out all shimano slx components and a rhythm fork! These companies are making ppl think they are really getting their moneys worth these days. This bike should be no more than $1300. Def not $2000
@@Chris-de2qc sooo yeah, you're really proving my point. full suspension is significantly more complicated than a hardtail. Hardtail designs have barely evolved compared to FS. Even just factoring in engineering costs to design the suspension. So for a hardtail to even reach full suspension prices it should be rocking fox suspension at least. Sx and deore are actually closer in price than maybe you think so that actually doesn't count. They are both entry level components despite deore being a smoother drivetrain. A Gx derailleur is like 100$. The suspension is not that far off either. So you'd actually be making a poor decision to buy this over the entry level stumpy, which can be easily upgraded over time to be as capable as any trail bike currently made.
@@hippiebits2071 the point was that the price is kind of a ripoff for what you get. It's not about everyone wanting or needing a FS. Rocky mountain growler for 1400$ right now on sale, now that's what hardtails should be priced at
I don't want to say your bike is bad, because it isn't, but the Marlin is a cross country bike. It's not comparable to this. The Roscoe has 40% longer travel, beefier brakes, better drivetrain, no front derailleur, dropper post, a much wider handlebar, tubeless tires, and it's lighter. It's double the price, for sure, but it's not just because the frame geometry is different and they can charge more for it.
@@Jamesthebikeguy it's the same thickness tubing as the Marlins . I would've liked to see something a bit more robust for what you are spending on the bike.
I’m 41 years old. I haven’t ridden a bike since I was about 16 and was racing my Haro Group 1 SI…… anyway. Is this bike overkill for a guy looking to ride with his kids and maybe hit a trail or 2? Should I just get the Marlin?
Same boat here, same age too haha.... Haven't owned a bike since a teen and was kinda set on the new Marlin 8 before nerding on the specs and checking out the Roscoe linup. From the majority of reviews and comments on many many videos, the consensus seem to be that for the money the Marlin 8 should have some more modern upgrades that are basically all found in the new Roscoe 7. Better (more modern) frame, thru axels front and rear, tapered head tube, dropper post, better crankset and bottom bracket, etc. I think I'll likely just go this route (Roscoe 7) and have maybe too much bike for my needs and skill vs. buying inferior parts that I may need to upgrade and some of which are not possible with the Marlin frame and wheel set.
Trek are milking every last drop of the Covid bike craze IMO. I wonder how many bikes they’ll sell at full retail, now that things have calmed down , supply chain is back to normal and used market is saturated?
@@guitarlessonsnow3431 I think so too. Love the Miami paint on the 7, but think I may have to look elsewhere for more value. Watching tons of videos... Lol
It's not a Roscoe. With that 29" on the rear, you just lost the light and poppy, easy to direct rear end. A 29" anything is not rowdy. BMX is rowdy. Rosco WAS kkind of like a BMX. They just made it a downhill/ Enduro bike by geo numbers. It's not a Roscoe.
I really wish they didn't ruin the paint scheme by adding those black spots all over that beautiful blue color. It looks sooo clean from a distance, but then when you get closer, it just ruins the aesthetic.
ordered a Roscoe 7 in June 2022..........and It showed up last week!!! It's the same bike in the review, and while waiting 2 years is completely nuts.........I'm glad I did. I'm In Brantford Ontario, and, this is my first "new" bike. Keep in mind, I just turned 65 so I have a lot of learning to do on this thing.......
I just ordered it on Thursday. And will get it in one week. I’m stoked.
3 of my 4 LBS' that sell TREK have multiple Roscoe 7s in stock waiting to be bought lol.....I can only find a size XL in the 9 locally though. Wait for a M/L in the 9 is July of 2023 though lol
I just joined the roscoe club, picked up a 9, it is freaking amazing in every way! Enjoy!!
Finally! The perfect trail bike for like 90% of cyclists.
Very sweet bike. Love to see how it evolved.
I still have 2009 Gary Fisher Roscoe 3 full squish, it’s probably one of the very few where the chain stays didn’t crack.
Weird how times change. It's 2024, and Trek is massively discounting these.
Ordered last July and I finally brought it home this past week! Roscoe 9🤙🏼
i wish they kept 27+ So much more playful and cool. Great paint job tho 😁
To say the previous bike was more playful makes it clear you have not ridden the new one. They are vastly different bikes an the old Roscoe was not quite playful in its own right. Good bike, but not playful.
@@Jamesthebikeguy The new frame etc, makes it better than last model. 27+ on that frame, would make it even better. Other who have tested it, complains about nervous wheels in high speed. And yes I tested it today, and still wish they were 27+ 😁😁
Watched your video about the Checkpoint ALR 4 and bought it, now watching this video and buying this one, your videos are really good James, so informative and well delivered, thanks for your help and helping me make may decision on this bike.
I bought mine month ago, i got eThirteen Lg1 wheels instead of Bontrager but no Raceface cranks... I guess they come on different set ups due the shortages? 🤷🏻
Yep.
My 7 came with Praxis cranks and the Bontrager Line 30 wheels. Changes are made due to supply chain issues
Ordered last July and I finally brought it home this past week! Roscoe 9🤙🏼
Yea! Finally a proper thru axle in the rear. Nice.
They have a shimano entry level crank on the spec and we just had one show up with a giant praxis crank. You lucked out with the race face crank.
What's the difference in cranks?
@@Chris-de2qc the raceface is lighter stronger...and it says raceface! The biggest thing I've had happen to me with cheaper cranks is stripping the threads out of the arms when dropping or jumping.
funny i bought a rei coop drt 2.1about 2 years ago and aside from the suntour fork ,and it was leaps and bounds far advanced from the roscoe the main thing that sold me was the boost axles on the bike not the 141 that was sold on the trek .but now im happy its full boost spacing 148 glad ,trek finally came around to changing that.
I honestly don't think the 2.6 tyre is an upgrade. The 2.8 is far better for me.
Ratio
This is a 2022 if I’m not mistaken.
Nice! Where can I get that bike stand?😉
Best review ive found on the roscoe 7 well done
Omg that paint job!
Ya black raindrops!
4th Generation is correct for the "current" Roscoe. The Roscoe was sold under the Gary Fisher label as a 140mm full-suspension 26" rig for 2009 and 2010 before being replaced by the 29er Rumblefish. That 26er Roscoe was sweet while it lasted.
140mm whit 32 stantions is like spageti
That's exactly what I was thinking and it cost too much to go for the 8 and 9!!
bro if you keep this bike upgrade wheels to elitewheels, they have a decals that would match the bike so much!
Good call!
22 and 23 are the same, aren’t they? I am buying a 22 roscoe 8 from my LBS
Yes. This is actually the 2022 r7 in the video
I had a 2019 Roscoe 7. Fun bike, but happy to see they've updated the geo. I'm now on a Canyon Stoic.
How is the Stoic compared to your old Roscoe?
@@pelisinho frame geo is better for downhills and jumps, but the part spec is worse. Though the Stoic is $1200 vs like $1800 for the Roscoe. I managed to get the Stoic for a steal from someone who ordered the wrong size.
@@ItsMeHammie I see, thank you for answering :) I have ordered the new Roscoe, but it has been a year and the estimate for delivery is still January 2023, meanwhile the price has rised almost 500$, so I'm looking at alternatives, I don't think the new price is justified :/
@@pelisinho after you ordered do you have to pay more when the price rises? How much is the new roscoe 7 selling for?
@@ItsMeHammie yes the shop told me that the price will be the updated price at the time of arrival. Roscoe 7 costs 1700€ now. I do love it tho, I chose the blue color with black logo that has some "dots" effect, it is so pretty!
Can’t wait to get this bike. I’ll be upgrading from my Cannondale Trail 8.
Check out HARO Double Peak Comp 29r for a comparison.
29er?
29 inch tires. AKA. 29ER. 🙃
I see you have swapped your cranks for race face effect
Could I use this for XC racing like Nica? I need a new XC bike but also want a lot of travel to play around with when I’m not racing
Yeah. The bike will be a little bit heavier than a traditional XC bike, but a lot more fun for other things when you're not racing
I just got this bike! So there are no tubes in the tires correct?
Just sold my 2020 Roscoe 6 and got a 2022 Marin San Quentin 2.
I hope next life I would hacmve this,
What’s the difference between 2022 and 2023? I believe it’s the same
yep, the same. Also I wouldn't call a 73.1 a steep seat tube angle... in fact it's quite lack...
@@Jacob99174 Effective seat tube angle is 74.7
Same
James, where is a good place to get a good bike stand? Thanks in advance.
Hey james, thanks for taking a minute to reply to my question. It shows how much you care about your subscribers. Buhbye.
Wal mart
@@maxhenry1977 this channel reviews bikes.... ever heard of goooooogle!
@@kihealthandwellness i sure have. In fact, that is how i found this channel, and i figured it would be better to ask an “expert” who has experience with these things. Unfortunately, google doesn’t tell you if a youtuber cares about his subscribers or not. But hey, you keep kissing hiney because that’s what you seem to do best 👍
@@maxhenry1977 Yep thought you might be a clown... thanks for confirming.
For another 700 you can get a stumpjumper with 35 fork and full squish, makes buying a 30lb 2 Grand hardtail harder. 1500 or so is the sweet spot for a trail hardtail unfortunately pushed out by the COVID supply chain issues
Completely agree! $2000 for this? Pre Covid I bought a stumpy and it was decked out all shimano slx components and a rhythm fork! These companies are making ppl think they are really getting their moneys worth these days. This bike should be no more than $1300. Def not $2000
Um a stumpjumper is now $2800, so $900 more. Also has crappy SX now, not Deore. All brands are raising prices and cutting back on parts.
@@Chris-de2qc sooo yeah, you're really proving my point. full suspension is significantly more complicated than a hardtail. Hardtail designs have barely evolved compared to FS. Even just factoring in engineering costs to design the suspension. So for a hardtail to even reach full suspension prices it should be rocking fox suspension at least.
Sx and deore are actually closer in price than maybe you think so that actually doesn't count. They are both entry level components despite deore being a smoother drivetrain. A Gx derailleur is like 100$. The suspension is not that far off either. So you'd actually be making a poor decision to buy this over the entry level stumpy, which can be easily upgraded over time to be as capable as any trail bike currently made.
@Matthew Serna Not everyone needs/wants a full suspension bike. Just like not everyone would rather drive a 4wd truck rather than 2wd.
@@hippiebits2071 the point was that the price is kind of a ripoff for what you get. It's not about everyone wanting or needing a FS. Rocky mountain growler for 1400$ right now on sale, now that's what hardtails should be priced at
Gotta love a tight rear-end!
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I ride a Marlin 6. At half the price. Something to think about. It is a nice bike if you can find one. Thanks for sharing this with us.
I upgraded my Marlin 6 with components competing with the Roscoe. It's a great frame except the rear is only using skewers.
I don't want to say your bike is bad, because it isn't, but the Marlin is a cross country bike. It's not comparable to this.
The Roscoe has 40% longer travel, beefier brakes, better drivetrain, no front derailleur, dropper post, a much wider handlebar, tubeless tires, and it's lighter.
It's double the price, for sure, but it's not just because the frame geometry is different and they can charge more for it.
Apples and oranges
@@TiagoMorbusSa Your dead on. My 16 year old Son got a new Roscoe 7 today. I have a one year old Marlin 6. My bike is a Canry. His is a Tundra!! Lol
I got mine lsst
Monday trek clermont
Congrats on your bike
I think they should have made the rear of the frame a little more stout
What about the back of the bike is not stout?
@@Jamesthebikeguy it's the same thickness tubing as the Marlins . I would've liked to see something a bit more robust for what you are spending on the bike.
I’m 41 years old. I haven’t ridden a bike since I was about 16 and was racing my Haro Group 1 SI…… anyway. Is this bike overkill for a guy looking to ride with his kids and maybe hit a trail or 2? Should I just get the Marlin?
Most likely overkill but if you want to hit more trails on your own or with friends then get the Roscoe!
Same boat here, same age too haha.... Haven't owned a bike since a teen and was kinda set on the new Marlin 8 before nerding on the specs and checking out the Roscoe linup. From the majority of reviews and comments on many many videos, the consensus seem to be that for the money the Marlin 8 should have some more modern upgrades that are basically all found in the new Roscoe 7. Better (more modern) frame, thru axels front and rear, tapered head tube, dropper post, better crankset and bottom bracket, etc. I think I'll likely just go this route (Roscoe 7) and have maybe too much bike for my needs and skill vs. buying inferior parts that I may need to upgrade and some of which are not possible with the Marlin frame and wheel set.
same.. but no kids 😁
Buy a Marlin 6!!
@@bacard100 that’s what I’m thinking.
Trek are milking every last drop of the Covid bike craze IMO. I wonder how many bikes they’ll sell at full retail, now that things have calmed down , supply chain is back to normal and used market is saturated?
The 7 and 8 are on sale through March.
@@matjj676 I saw that, still quite pricey for an aluminum hardtail with mid-range components…
@@guitarlessonsnow3431 I think so too. Love the Miami paint on the 7, but think I may have to look elsewhere for more value. Watching tons of videos... Lol
@@matjj676 waiting for the Specialized Fuse 29 to go on sale…
2022 or 23???
2023
It's not a Roscoe. With that 29" on the rear, you just lost the light and poppy, easy to direct rear end. A 29" anything is not rowdy. BMX is rowdy. Rosco WAS kkind of like a BMX. They just made it a downhill/ Enduro bike by geo numbers. It's not a Roscoe.
Sorry bro that is a 2022 Roscoe
I really wish they didn't ruin the paint scheme by adding those black spots all over that beautiful blue color. It looks sooo clean from a distance, but then when you get closer, it just ruins the aesthetic.
Different strokes for different folks I guess
I agree
Can you please make a review on the trek xcaliber 8 and 9 2022 as well?
A Massachusetts YT channel. 😎 Just subbed and followed on Instagram.
Good but…Vitus is still better in this price range
There is always a discount brand on the market...